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Speaker 1: And welcome to Tuesday's edition a Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com, a very special edition of

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live presented by Core's Light. And that

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Speaker 1: is because I am right next to former Giant safety

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Speaker 1: Andre Rawle Androw Glad to have your board. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: our set. I know this is your first experience on set.

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Speaker 1: I'm not up here, I know well. As I told

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Speaker 1: you before we went on air, Jeff Eagles is responsible

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Speaker 1: your fellow Hurricane for covering you up. So I am

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Speaker 1: meetings in between shows to make sure your presence is

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Speaker 1: felt here. On the one, I appreciate that. Man. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So you had an opportunity to see practice today. What

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Speaker 1: have your impressions been of the team thus far over

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks, if you've been following along well,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, you know, just seeing that everyone has

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Speaker 1: a different at to have a different approach, and you know,

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Speaker 1: following last season and you know, I was a tough

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Speaker 1: one for all of us to witness, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I felt like it was time for chains and I

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Speaker 1: think we've we've experienced that with uh with the with

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Speaker 1: the new coaching staff, you know, with the new GM

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, a new attitude from the players. Two

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Speaker 1: zero one four or five one three is the telephone

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Speaker 1: number where you get to your phone calls. You can

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Speaker 1: get to your tweets at hashtag Giants Chat and a

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Speaker 1: prizes throughout the season. Well, I think it's great to

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Speaker 1: have you on the show for a variety of different reasons,

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Speaker 1: but most notably atro when you look at this team,

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Speaker 1: the safety position next to Lando Landed Collins is very

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Speaker 1: much up in the air. Now you have experience at safety,

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Speaker 1: you have experienced at corner. You made the transition, and

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Speaker 1: one guy in particular that's in the mix to play

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Speaker 1: next to Landed Collins is Curtis highly formerly of the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. What is it like when you move from

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Speaker 1: corner to safety and what are really the major differences

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Speaker 1: when you take on both of those roles. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest adjustments is the cerebral part. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have to understand and now you're the

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Speaker 1: protector of the defense. You're you're deep as the deepest

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Speaker 1: man goes. If it gets past you, you can pretty

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Speaker 1: much counted up seven. So I think just have to

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Speaker 1: be very familiar with the position of the scheme of

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Speaker 1: things where the help is gonna rely on whether there's

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of the defense because you're the deepest eyes.

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Speaker 1: I always hear a lot of safety say, specifically in

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Speaker 1: this defense with James Betcher, that there really is no

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Speaker 1: free safety or strong safety. You have to know both

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Speaker 1: positions from your experience and you've been in a variety

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Speaker 1: of defenses. Is that common or do you normally have

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Speaker 1: to take on the role of free safety versus strong safety. Well,

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Speaker 1: When you have versatile guys back there that can play

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Speaker 1: well he's a strong safety. He's gonna be covering tightly

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Speaker 1: It seems as if it's like what the Giants are

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Speaker 1: making everybody learn all three positions. They're not telling them

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Speaker 1: that's the best way because now the defense has prepared

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Speaker 1: to get to nose during a little bit. Absolutely, Well,

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Speaker 1: now guys have more to think about than just their assignment.

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Speaker 1: But you know I always play the game. Is listening.

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Speaker 1: He's been down on the line, he's played back in

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Speaker 1: We always need to make that connection whenever you are

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Speaker 1: Jet Feagles are in this chair. I always prioritize that.

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Speaker 1: of public opinion in today's football, when a big play

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Speaker 1: has given up, everybody always thinks to miss the signment

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Speaker 1: the secondary was not on the same page. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: So only the strongest ones will survive. And that's why

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Speaker 1: even batting a ball down at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: It's crucial. I'll take it into the other week. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Two zero one, five one three is the telephone number.

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Speaker 1: Getta get to your phone calls here in a second

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Speaker 1: hashtag Giants chat on Twitter. One other thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: phone lines. Earlier today, Victor Cruz announced his retirement. A

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Speaker 1: up with that? Well, for myself, you're going up against

429
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Speaker 1: tight ends. I always try to just disrupt them at

430
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Speaker 1: the lounge screments because they're not as there's not that

431
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Speaker 1: they're not as fluid as not that they're not as

432
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Speaker 1: elusive as those wide receivers who can take a jam

433
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Speaker 1: and get right back into the route extremely fast, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't throw them off as much when you

435
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Speaker 1: gym those big tight ends. When a quarter I look

436
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Speaker 1: at them and they see them gay end up, they're

437
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Speaker 1: not going back to them, you know, the quarterback is

438
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Speaker 1: not looking their way again. To see if they got

439
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Speaker 1: open all of a sudden because you disrupted. Because because

440
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Speaker 1: you disrupted, absolutely, So that's what I'm trying to work on, man,

441
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Speaker 1: and just staying low in the hip corner pocket because

442
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Speaker 1: like I said, they're they're not going to outrun you,

443
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Speaker 1: but they will body position you. So if you stay

444
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Speaker 1: in that low corner, you're staying at the low pocket hip.

445
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Speaker 1: And once you realize, Okay, this guy has ran past

446
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Speaker 1: ten yards, twelve yards US more than likely he's running

447
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: the same route or he's running a seventh cut. You

448
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Speaker 1: know he's not gonna run a fifteen yard comeback. Titans

449
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: are not gonna do that. No, They're gonna test you

450
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Speaker 1: down the field. Absolutely, And I couldn't necessarily make your

451
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Speaker 1: life easy. Let's head back to your lives. We've got

452
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Speaker 1: Tremaine in Annapolis, Maryland. Tremaine, what's happening? Welcome to the program.

453
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Speaker 1: All right, how are you doing? Doing very well? So

454
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Speaker 1: watch out your mind? Yeah, I just wanted to uh

455
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Speaker 1: um um saying that we change defense teams. How do

456
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Speaker 1: you think that defense is going to do this year? Well,

457
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be an adjustment. It's gonna take

458
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Speaker 1: them maybe three or four maybe five games, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: to get to get acclimateted to that new three four system.

460
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be about communication. It's going to be about

461
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Speaker 1: them being the same page at the same time. Remember,

462
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Speaker 1: roles may change, but the game is always going to

463
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Speaker 1: be the same. So once you have a playmaker, playmaker

464
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: is going to be a playmaker. That's no matter if

465
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Speaker 1: you're the four three year in three or four, you're

466
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Speaker 1: gonna find a way to make plays. So, like I said,

467
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be about, you know, how much study of time,

468
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Speaker 1: how much field time these guys are putting in, and

469
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Speaker 1: more importantly, their communication on the field is going to

470
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Speaker 1: be absolutely crucial. Appreciate also, thank you for the time

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Speaker 1: that you uh let us do the whole bunch of championships. Oh,

472
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Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate it all right, Trement, appreciate the

473
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Speaker 1: phone call. Thanks so muching waying In. Let's move along

474
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Speaker 1: here on the lines. Jason is in Maine. Jason, welcome aboard.

475
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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Hey? How are you

476
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Speaker 1: guys today? Doing well? Jason? What's on your mind? I

477
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Speaker 1: just wanted to thank Amp for his for all the

478
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Speaker 1: fire he had for New York playing for our defense.

479
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Speaker 1: That didn't seem to matter what game it was. Uh.

480
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Speaker 1: He was a guy that I think lit everybody else up.

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Speaker 1: So thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Hey, That's

482
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Speaker 1: that's the only way I knew how to play the game.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, and Tril, how hard is it if

484
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Speaker 1: you if you play let's say, free safety your whole

485
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Speaker 1: career and then you move on to the NFL and

486
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Speaker 1: you have to play strong safety. How difficult is that transition?

487
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Speaker 1: Like I said before, you know, it depends on what

488
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Speaker 1: system you're in and what type of player you are.

489
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Speaker 1: For myself, when when when I was here with the Giants,

490
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Speaker 1: we had a bison back, we had free safety, and

491
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Speaker 1: we had a strong safety. Tom Brady didn't know which

492
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Speaker 1: was what he had. He had no idea because we

493
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Speaker 1: were all interchangeable safeties. And that's the only way that

494
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Speaker 1: we were able to be successful against tom Brady because

495
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Speaker 1: he was a quarterback that once he figured you out,

496
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Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, it was gonna be

497
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Speaker 1: a long day in paradise for you. So, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: we had to confuse them a little bit. And you know,

499
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Speaker 1: I always believe in versatility. I think versatility is the

500
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Speaker 1: key free and strong safety in my opinion. Even if

501
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Speaker 1: they are you know, setting stone him, one's gonna be deep,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, protruding the field. One's going to be up

503
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Speaker 1: in the box, you know, filling sea gas, filling b

504
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Speaker 1: gaps and obviously cutting covering the time a lot more. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: And just two other questions for you, just quick ones. One,

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Speaker 1: what was your which NFL team did you want to

507
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Speaker 1: beat the most as a Giant? And uh just wondered

508
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Speaker 1: two about the Snoopy Bowl? How how big of a

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: deal was it for you guys? Was it a big deal?

510
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Speaker 1: Was it not a big deal? And I'll get off

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Speaker 1: the air with that and just listen to you guys.

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Speaker 1: THANKI Jason, thanks to the phone call. Appreciate it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So you want to start with the team that you

514
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Speaker 1: look forward to beating the most when you were a

515
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Speaker 1: member of the New York Giants, that's easy that I

516
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Speaker 1: figured that was going to be the one that would

517
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Speaker 1: roll off your tongue. And then the Snoopy Ball? Did

518
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Speaker 1: that put a little bit more pep in your step?

519
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Speaker 1: Knowing that there was the rivalry that existed between the

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Speaker 1: Giants Jets. That was never a preseason game for me.

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Speaker 1: It was always a regular season I I approached it

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Speaker 1: a regular season game, and uh, you know, everyone considers

523
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Speaker 1: preseason preseason. But it's just a little bit more about

524
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Speaker 1: that game. You know what. What's interesting is you came

525
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Speaker 1: from the Cardinals, and not that you didn't know what

526
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Speaker 1: was going on across the NFL landscape. But I'm curious

527
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Speaker 1: once you were first immersed into the Giants Jets rivalry,

528
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: did it come to you immediately, Hey there's something unique

529
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Speaker 1: here between these two teams, or did it take you

530
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: a few years to realize the significant self. Instantly you

531
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: can tell with the guys, with their approach with practice,

532
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: you can tell with the talk around town. You can

533
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Speaker 1: tell it was it was you know, it was something

534
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Speaker 1: about it. I can tell when coach Coplan, you know

535
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Speaker 1: he you know, because Coplin therects, a little thing they

536
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Speaker 1: had going on, So you know instantly that this was

537
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Speaker 1: more than the preseason game. You know, this was about

538
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Speaker 1: breaking rights well, and it's always painted as the dress

539
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Speaker 1: rehearsal game where the starters played the most. So it's

540
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Speaker 1: not as if you're going into a game where you

541
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Speaker 1: didn't expect to shoot up that you're gonna have to

542
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Speaker 1: play more. But I agree with you, and I think

543
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Speaker 1: even through the fans lens, they realize it's a little

544
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Speaker 1: bit sweeter it you actually walk away with the victory

545
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: for that third preseason game, knowing it's against the same

546
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: team you share the stadium with. Always one of my

547
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Speaker 1: stool betropy. I need it, I need it. I need

548
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: the Snoop Bowl, A nice little takeaway. In addition to

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Speaker 1: the W two zero one four five one three is

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Speaker 1: the telephone number of reminder that Big Blue Kickoff Live

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553
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Speaker 1: the season. We're gonna head back to the phone lines

554
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Speaker 1: here as we welcome you all aboard. Ze Seawn is

555
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Speaker 1: in New Jersey, Sean, what's happening? Hey guys, Um, I'm

556
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Speaker 1: a long time listener, first time caller only with entre Rolla.

557
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Speaker 1: I never called before ever. Moma're glad to hear from you.

558
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Speaker 1: I just have two quick things. I know you're talking

559
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Speaker 1: about Landon's uh, you know, leadership. I'm not worried about him.

560
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Speaker 1: I Am'm worried about Ela Apple not to getting his

561
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Speaker 1: head turned around catching the football because he's just focused

562
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Speaker 1: on the player. So how can you help him? You know,

563
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: you started out as a corner, so how can you

564
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Speaker 1: help them transition to that type of player where he

565
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Speaker 1: can always locate the football? And number two is I

566
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Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on the helmet rule, like

567
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: I can't believe because they have they already have added

568
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: the crown of the helmet leading into crown helmet as

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Speaker 1: a penalty, and now they add that you can't even

570
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: lower your head. You get fifteen yards for playing football.

571
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on the new holmer role?

572
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: And and and and Andrew, I'm the one that probably

573
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: keeps incessantly tweeting at YouTube. Come back to the giants,

574
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, to your captain and everything, So just um

575
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Speaker 1: for you, how can you pass on the captain and

576
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: the leadership to some of the players on this team? Alright, Jean,

577
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call, Thanks so much, way in throughout

578
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: a lot there. So why don't we start with the

579
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Speaker 1: last question? They throughout it in terms of leadership and

580
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: how important is that to develop within the locker room?

581
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Leadership is huge. You know, when you have leaders, you

582
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: have a foundation, and you know, leader leadership it's contagious,

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00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know you finally yourself with one, maybe two leaders, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, with what they're like the car leaders, and

585
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you have sixteen fifteen leaders.

586
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: They just lead in different ways. You know, some may

587
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: lead with the voices, some may go out there lead

588
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: by example between the white lines. But when you find both,

589
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: you know you start goal. Yeah, because everybody has a

590
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Speaker 1: different path that they take to set in motion an

591
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Speaker 1: example for other players. For example, Snacks is the first

592
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Speaker 1: one that always says, you know, he's not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: vocal guy, but he does it based on his play.

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Speaker 1: Alec Ogiltree, who just came in, seems to be more

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Speaker 1: of a vocal leader. And you know, you're a veteran

596
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Speaker 1: when you came here, how do you feel out a

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Speaker 1: locker room to say, hey, I feel comfortable making my

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Speaker 1: voice felt despite the fact that there may have been

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Speaker 1: some players that have been here for quite some time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I don't even think you

601
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Speaker 1: can entertain that unless you're doing what you need to

602
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Speaker 1: do between the white lines. So that can't be the priority. Yeah. No,

603
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Speaker 1: you can't just come into a locker room talking because

604
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Speaker 1: you feel like there's nothing that need to be said.

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00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: You can't come into a locker room and proclaim yourself

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Speaker 1: as a leader when you're not doing what you need

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00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: to do between the white lines. If you're not, they're

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Speaker 1: practicing and grinding. And I don't mean some of the time,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean majority of the time. I mean all

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Speaker 1: the time, you know. And that's something that I took personal,

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Speaker 1: you know, within myself. You know, didn't have anything to

612
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Speaker 1: do about the Giants or football, and it's entirely it

613
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: had to do with the person that I am. If

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Speaker 1: I was able to run, I was gonna be outher

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Speaker 1: and field with my guys. That's just the way I

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Speaker 1: approached the game. So you know, when you find those

617
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Speaker 1: leaders that that that that don't mind voicing their opinions,

618
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: because sometimes certain things need to be heard. Even for myself,

619
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Speaker 1: I played eleven years and there was still sometimes where

620
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Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to hear something from someone else.

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Speaker 1: As crazy to me sound, but it's true. So you

622
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Speaker 1: never know what someone is gonna what someone is gonna

623
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Speaker 1: gonna take in and let us soak in it extremely deep,

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Speaker 1: to the point where a light bulb just looks on.

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming that's not just a player, but even

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Speaker 1: a coach's perspective that may be new for you. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we we we all need a voice sometimes, whether it

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Speaker 1: be a coaches, players, doesn't matter who it is, because

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Speaker 1: I remember there were certain times where Coach Coughlin needed

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Speaker 1: to hear my voice, you know, vice versa all the time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I never thought when I came here

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Speaker 1: my first year, Coach Coughlin was going to be a

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Speaker 1: guy that I really just wanted to sit and listen to.

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Speaker 1: But as time went on, you know, I started understanding

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Speaker 1: what he was saying and started understanding his message, and

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Speaker 1: you know, soon enough he started understanding mine and understanding

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Speaker 1: who I was as a player. That give and take

638
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: type of relationships that develops over time. Now, the last

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Speaker 1: colorso brought up Eli Apple and the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: still young. Developing as a corner a position you started

641
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Speaker 1: out with, and you know, just the nuances of the

642
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: position in terms of turning your head, making sure that

643
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: you're physical at the line of scrimmage. You know, how

644
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Speaker 1: exactly does that come about? It was there a year that, hey,

645
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: everything came together for you or did it just gradually

646
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: come into place once you made the transition from college

647
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: to the pros? You know? With Eli Apple, I think

648
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: the guy has all the tools. You know, he has

649
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: phenomenal size, he's fast, he's strong, you know, he he

650
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't mind coming up making contact. But

651
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: it's exactly what the guy said, find the ball, making

652
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: a play on the ball. In my opinion, the way

653
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I approach the game, it's every time you grab a ball,

654
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: if you're getting another million dollars, That's how I approach it.

655
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Nice and cive. You want to get that money, get

656
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: the money back because that's what's gonna get you the

657
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: big dollars. You don't want to let those opportunities go

658
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: because there's not often where you're gonna get opportunity. How

659
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: many times is a cornerback on an opportunity to actually

660
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: grab the ball and intercept the ball and break up

661
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a pass. You might get two through your game if

662
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: you're lucky, it's not gonna happen often. So what Eli

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00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Apple needs to do it starts with confidence, It starts

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Speaker 1: with trust, It starts with repetition. Once you do it

665
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: in practice, you're making a habit finding, leaning and locating

666
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: the ball when you get comfortable. When you get comfortable

667
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: doing that, then you're gonna transition that to the game.

668
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Once you're transition into the game and it's successful for

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00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: you one time, two times, then it's gonna come a habit.

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00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna start working on them more, working on

671
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: the more, and it's just habit. It's just repetition. So

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: now we realize it wasn't the pig skin that you

673
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: were following, it was the bag of money that you

674
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: were I love that money there. I don't blame it.

675
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't blame it. Yeah, well you know, you know

676
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: also I think love that Stevie Brown that one years

677
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: then back he was serarily a visioning the money bag too,

678
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: based on how often he But but to your point,

679
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, once you grab the routine and you seem

680
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: to be opportunists, that gets a player. I mean it

681
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: seems to also rub off on other guys around. Yeah. Absolutely,

682
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Man listen plays interceptions, they're coming package, they're coming packages.

683
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Ye and uh we all know man playing deep playing

684
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: deepensive backfield, you have to go get that football because

685
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: of not the wide receivers they have nowadays. They will

686
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: take it off your head. The Julio Jones, Odell Beckham's

687
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Browns. Those guys will take the ball out of

688
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: your possession if you don't go up and take the

689
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: ball in the hospital. We have seen that on the

690
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: highlight plenty of times. Odell even did one today in practice.

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Speaker 1: It is aggressive take it away, yep, that's why they

692
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: have a knack for grabbing the football. Let's head back

693
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Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Joe is in Virginia. Joe, welcome aboard.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Is? Uh? He's like, man,

695
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: you don't do this year and I'm gonna do with Okay. Well,

696
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: we'll certainly get into that, Joe and appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 1: So he asked about Eli manning the outlook for his

698
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: season as well as Oldell Beckham. I mean, I'll first

699
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Speaker 1: weigh in intrall, and I'm curious your perspective. Ever since

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Speaker 1: training camp started, Odell to me, has not missed a beat.

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00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: He looks like he's ready to go. He looks like

702
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: his old self in terms of him running around and

703
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: so forth. I don't think he's really lost his step.

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Speaker 1: As a result of that injury. I just think the

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: Giants are being smart, as Pat Shermer has said, in

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Speaker 1: terms of not throwing him right into the fire so

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00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: quickly and preserving him for week one first and foremost. Man. Uh,

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00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone understands the amount of work and

709
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: countless hours O'Dell put into making sure he's back. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know personally, the amount of time, the amount of

711
00:34:43,360 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: doctor y constantly. Yeah, it seems to have that same

712
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: passion as he enters into the latter part of his career.

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00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: You've been in the locker room with him, you know,

714
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: and everybody they watched the film and when it comes

715
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks andral they're always counting the years and saying, Oh,

716
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna be it, this is gonna be the end. All.

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00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: What do you see when you see Eli today, I see, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy who's in the phenomenal ship. If

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00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I see a guy who who wants it. You know,

720
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Speaker 1: last year was not a good year for anyone on

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Speaker 1: the Giants organization, and I think Eli, you know, there's

722
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of dollars, there's a lot of people out

723
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: there that have so many questions or you know, is

724
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: Eli done? What's this? What's you know? Everyone's gonna have

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: an opinion, but Eli. If anyone can handle that is

726
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. He's a guy that's gonna go off there.

727
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna approve everyone wrong. He's gonna have one of

728
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: his best years that he's had yet in the NFL.

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00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: He certainly has the weapon re around him. I mean

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Speaker 1: you look at don't tell who you mentioned Sterling Shepard

731
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: coming back from injury to remember he was a bit

732
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: banged up. Evan Ingram Barkley, who we haven't talked about.

733
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: And it improved offensive line absolutely and and all those

734
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: all those those key spots that you mentioned right now,

735
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: and that the Huges, and they're gonna be a phenomenal

736
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: help for Eli Manning in this offense. Let's head back

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Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Welcome to Tuesday's edition A Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Line presented by Corps Life. Freddie is in

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Freddie, what's happening? Not much? Um and Trial.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for everything you did

741
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: for this organization while we're your time here. And also

742
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big Hurricane fan too, so I follow man

743
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: appreciate everything you did. No thank you. I appreciate that.

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: For sure. You're welcome security bag right, it's always about

745
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: the bag man, absolutely absolutely. Question for you guys, who

746
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: do you think has more touchdown this season? Shepherd or Um,

747
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. It's a good question. Oh, I'm gonna have

748
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: to go with Evan England. That's where I was going

749
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: to lead as well Ingram, and he was phenomenal and

750
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: finding the end zone last year, and clearly they had

751
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, so he was the primary target.

752
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: But I think that Evan Ingram, given his body and

753
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: given Eli Manning working with him in the red zone,

754
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: I think if you're asking it from a fantasy perspective, Freddie,

755
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: my money would be on Evan Ingram. Yeah, yeah, that's

756
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: what I was thinking too. I'm just curious about Um

757
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: and also, uh, what about um? Maybe Russell Shepherd uh

758
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: back there returning some puns you think were doing that well.

759
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: Shepherd was an extremely opportunistic player when he was with

760
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. He was mainly a special teamer and

761
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: then also Ransom Routes as a wide receiver. They've been

762
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: rotating a variety of different personnel back there, but he's

763
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: certainly in the mix. And I will tell you this, Freddie,

764
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: if you look at it, atro you can relate to

765
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: this watching teammates throughout the years. If you're going to

766
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: make the roster as the fourth wide receiver, the fifth

767
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you have to contribute on special teams. Absolutely, absolutely,

768
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: So he fits that bill that that's the attractiveness of

769
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: someone like him, as well as remember Cody Latimer. Cody

770
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Latimer is also another great specialties player. So when you're

771
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: looking at the battles in the preseason games, those are

772
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: the guys to watch who's chipping in on special teams.

773
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: That's why they're trying to get Hunter Sharp involved in

774
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: that facet of the game. Because if he's gonna make

775
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: this team, there's gonna be days he's gonna have to

776
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: contribute on special teams, no doubt about that one. Um.

777
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing and I'll

778
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: get off here real fast. But Andrew, hands down to one,

779
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes is the greatest team ever, no debate about it.

780
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. Things I don't even know

781
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: the first place. You know what, you probably would have loved,

782
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: You would have loved to turnover chain if that existed

783
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: when you like, they could have had that when we played. Okay, well,

784
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: well that's why I had to ask. Really they couldn't

785
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: have had it, Okay, because what you're saying, you didn't

786
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: need it from a motivational standpoint, not necessary that we

787
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: didn't need it. Okay, it would have been a massacre. Really,

788
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: it would have been a mess. Okay, it would have

789
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: been a mess. It would have been broken after we

790
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: wanted what you're saying, it would have been done. I mean,

791
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know. It would have

792
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: broke us up at his unit, you know, because we

793
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: were all fought for that much, Okay, because we man,

794
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: we were a greedy bunch of dudes down there. We

795
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: played good football, but we were greedy. We we were selfish,

796
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: greedy dudes. We we all wanted the ball. We would

797
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: have all wanted to like we were just want to

798
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: find ways, busted coverages that we're going to get the ball,

799
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: take chances and all that stuff. That's a different way

800
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: to look at it to two guys every and Sean

801
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: Taylor just forget about it. Well, it was the who's

802
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: who of what became of the National Football League On

803
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: that team, so you can understand that everybody wants in

804
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: the football. It's just when anybody picks in Miami today

805
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and doing shows with Jeff and his son being the punter,

806
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: the turnover chain always comes up. So that's why I

807
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: figured when I do a show in Thattro, we gotta

808
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: ask his perspective of the turnover chain. Man, Listen, I

809
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: was so jealous of that chain this year. I was

810
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: so jealous. Hey, but you know he helped those guys out. Man.

811
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: They gave them an extra added a cent of man

812
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: to go out there on ball and get the ball,

813
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: and man, the eternal ritual was phenomenal. That was a

814
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: big reason why they had the season they did and

815
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: beat up Notre Dame and so forth and had a

816
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: number of notable victories. The reason I bring that up

817
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: is also against Jeff and I'm sure you've been down

818
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: to Miami. They sell actually copies of it, so you

819
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: can you can grab as many as you want. My

820
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: mom my main guy DJ Williams, who I do you

821
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: know my podcast where he actually makes those Oh he does, okay,

822
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: So so you have it in so you don't even

823
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: have to ask Jeff Feagan. You got your own, So

824
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: I was completely off guard in terms even thrown out there. Look,

825
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: we got the X here when it comes to how

826
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: to get hold of the turnover Chaine. All right, let's

827
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: head back to the phone lines. Rick is in Tampa. Rick,

828
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: welcome a board. What do you got for us? What's up? Guys?

829
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Hey and trow Hey. You know I've been down here

830
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: going on all over ten years and being in Florida,

831
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much of the good old Miami Hurricanes

832
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: prowess as the best team in Florida over these years.

833
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: So I hope that they're starting to change because all

834
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: that here is Florida. Stay Gator is everything in his

835
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: last ten years. But Miami's gotta, you know, regain some

836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: of that prominence that you have back in the day,

837
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: don't you think absolutely? You know, I think we're saying,

838
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: will you see that? Man? You know, I don't really

839
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: like those those seminoles and those games too much, but

840
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: I know it's all I hear about Miami back in

841
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: But they've been improving. Yeah, they're improving, but they have

842
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: to make their own way. You know, we all understand

843
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: it in this sport, knowing nothing's gonna be given to you. Nope, nope, nope,

844
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: all right, I thought it was entitlement back in the day,

845
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: but not anymore. Hey for you for one, UM, I

846
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: did want to bring up Barkley just for a second

847
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: to ask you, is you think or asking he's gonna

848
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: play that against the Jets? And what does this injury

849
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: still look like that? And also, Andrew, you've always been

850
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: very outspoken, great leader of the team when you played.

851
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I George your interviews on w f A N every

852
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: time you're on, and uh, you're kind of the spokesperson

853
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: for the team. So when you're listening to the defense,

854
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: and I thought you may be answered this a couple

855
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: of callers ago. But who do you see as the

856
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: leader on defense? Who is the outspoken one that you're

857
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: here talking up to place and and really taking over

858
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: that role which they need the Giants need at this season.

859
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: Who he's here of the most uh, maybe taken over

860
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: for that spot and since you have been gone, has

861
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: been empty. So when you think about that, and also

862
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: about Barky, what do you think is he gonna play

863
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: it all this spring? I mean preseason, for the preseason.

864
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: But you got a Rickett and thanks for the phone call.

865
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: I'll start off with the Barkley and then we'll get

866
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: your perspective on the leadership, which is what we touched

867
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: on earlier. Pat Schremer actually spoke to the media after

868
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: practice today. He was asked about se Kwon Barkley said,

869
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Barkley's coming along with his rehab. But Pat Shermer, as

870
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: he's done since he's joined the team, cleeps it very

871
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: close to the hard as you can tell with Tom

872
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: Coughlin and everybody. So he's not revealing much. But you know,

873
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: you've been somebody, You've dealt with the grind of the preseason,

874
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: You've dealt with injuries, You've seen teammates. I think, as

875
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned same thing with Oldell Beckham, the Giants are

876
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna play it very smart and if they don't feel

877
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: as if they need to get him extra reps in

878
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: a game, I don't see why they would risk it. Absolutely.

879
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the best wild to go because at

880
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the preseason, you know, it

881
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: helps you get the best you know, Phillis you're gonna

882
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: have it, you know, as into the regular season as

883
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. But it's a meaningless game, you know,

884
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: and you just hate to see a guy that caliber.

885
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, God forbid, you know this thing, Any type

886
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: of injury doesn't matter. If it's major of minor, they

887
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: can do without it. You know, it's be's see if

888
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: he's nicked up right now, just rehab inertia injury man,

889
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, and when that when it's time for September

890
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: nine against the Jaguars, you know, make sure he's ready

891
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: to come there. That's the number one goal when it

892
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: really counts in week one. I agree with you one.

893
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: The other question, though, that's thrown out a lot, and

894
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: you were a rookie at one time defensive player, not

895
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: necessarily offense, but same thing. Every rep is important. Do

896
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: you feel when you're a rookie that there is that

897
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: urgency to get on the field in some more preseason

898
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: games just so you work out the kinks, you understand

899
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: the system and so far they's supposed to taking the

900
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: mental reps. Yeah, you know, you always want to go

901
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: out there and work on your craft and see where

902
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: you are and messing yourself. But not of that expense.

903
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, if if if you're already nicked up a

904
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: little bit, you know and say kus uh situation. You know,

905
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: he's nursing at hampstring. You want to arrest it. You

906
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: want to make sure that you get it top top

907
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: shape come time for the first game, because, like I said,

908
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: these pre season games, they are just games. They're just

909
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: glorified practices. You know, you want to go out there

910
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: and be smart. Especially you know with with a key

911
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: player last Kuan At Sae Kwon down the road could

912
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: very well develop into a leader. Right now. He's asking

913
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of questions, he's engaged in the offense and

914
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: so forth. You know, when you were out there, that

915
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: was the other question at the last coloras who jumps

916
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: out to you as somebody that has a presence, maybe

917
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: not even a vocal leader, but a guy that commands

918
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: the respect of his teammates around him. I think, just

919
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: off the top of you know, I think a guy

920
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: like Ogl Triller. I think he's definitely gonna be one

921
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: of your vocal leaders. Um, I see a guy I

922
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: heard I heard will get out there a lot you

923
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: know communication. You heard him over the entire defense just

924
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: yelling out quarterback under center, you know, shotgun, shotgun, you know,

925
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: top top, you know, just just calling certain things out

926
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: and anytime you have communication with the defense nine times,

927
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: I'll attend your defense is gonna be pretty successful because

928
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: that way, everyone's on the same page at the same time.

929
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: So to have those veteran guys that are used to

930
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: communicating and understand the importance of defenses being the same

931
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: page at the same time, it's gonna only make the

932
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: defense that much better. And that's what experience brings to

933
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: the table. Because the two players you name, Natral, they've

934
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: been at a a variety of defenses and they've been moved around,

935
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: so they understand how important is to be on the

936
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: same page absolutely. You know, William get coming from that

937
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh defense with you know, with with Paulo Malu and

938
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: and all those guys, Taylors and you know, it's it's

939
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: there's so many of those guys where he had to

940
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: communicate because he was a young puppet of their defense. Yeah,

941
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: and somebody who also understands what it's like to play

942
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: in Arizona like you do. So there's that connection as well.

943
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: But he's been in a variety of different defenses with

944
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans and young guys, you know, And

945
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: and that's what's so impressive. When you have veterans joined

946
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: a new team, the smooth transition, and I'm sure that's

947
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: something that you can relate to when you joined the

948
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Giants because you in there before football's football at the

949
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: end of the death like rudding the bike. It's like

950
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: rudding the bike. You know, you may not ride it

951
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: for a long time and you know, but you're never

952
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 1: gonna forget. So you know, it doesn't matter what team

953
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: you go to. He's gonna understand that if I'm going

954
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: to deepense, I'm gonna communicate. I'm gonna show these young

955
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: guys how to communicate. I'm gonna teach them how to

956
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: be loud and let their voices be heard within the defense,

957
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: which is which is crucial. Choose one nine four five

958
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: one three is the telephone number. He is Former Giant

959
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: safety Andro Rollom Lance Meado. Thanks so much for tuning

960
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: into Tuesdays and they should a big blue kickoff live

961
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: a reminder, it's brought to you by Corps Light. Download

962
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Speaker 1: the course Light Rewards app to win Amazing Giants prizes

963
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. As we head back

964
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: to the phone lines, keep ringing that phone here, antroll

965
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: answer all the questions you want that's time. Allows. Of

966
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: course Ray is in the Bronx, right, what's happening? A

967
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: big fan man, when you do you really took over

968
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: to the secretary and uh and UH in Miami and

969
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: in UH in New York and that was a big

970
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: fan of yours. Um. I think wend and Collins is

971
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: a lot like you and UH that's a compliment believing.

972
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Um Uh. What I want to know is what's going

973
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: on with O b J with the contract negotiations. What

974
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: are the Giants waiting for? I mean, what's going on?

975
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: You got one of the greatest players in the NFL,

976
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: and the Giants look like they're you know, putting them

977
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: on hold or something. I don't know what. Well, let's

978
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: watch the language, right, and we want to keep things okay. Listen.

979
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: I respected you're a passionate Giants man, but we want

980
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: to want to try to keep the conversation no completely. Listen,

981
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: You're no no worries, no worries. You're You're not the

982
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: first fan to ask a question related to that. UM.

983
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: I understand it's on the minds of a lot of

984
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: different people. And O'Dell has said multiple times that he

985
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: is confident the process will play itself out. Gentleman has

986
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: said the same thing. The season hasn't started yet, there's

987
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: still a chance they may hammer out a deal. And

988
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, there are under the c b A

989
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: there are rules and regulations that teams can follow, such

990
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: as the franchise tag. Even though this is the final

991
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: year of his contract. So it's a matter of just

992
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: being patient. That's what it comes down to. And you know,

993
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Andrew listen, you can relate as being a player with

994
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: contractual negotiations. I think O'Dell what I take away just

995
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: from listening to him and how he's going about his business,

996
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: it's business as usual for him. He's focused on football,

997
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: He's focused on returning to the field. He right now

998
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: is not necessarily letting anything else distract him, which is

999
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: the right mindset to have. Absolute. Yeah, um, but if

1000
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: he will be uh the field for the first game, yeah,

1001
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily a big concern. We're gonna

1002
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: let you go on that note rate because obviously I

1003
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: want to get Antrol's perspective on this as well. There

1004
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: there is nothing that indicates that Odell Beckham at this

1005
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: point is a question mark for Week one. I think

1006
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: the Giant are playing. It's smart. They're making sure that

1007
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: he gets in as much reps as he can. He

1008
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: took part in the joint practices with the Lions. That's

1009
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: another reason why he didn't play in the last preseason game,

1010
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: because Pat Schirmer felt he was tested enough against the opposition.

1011
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: But getting back to the point that I was making

1012
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: a troll, his mindset seems to be zoned in on

1013
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: football and that's where it needs to remain as it

1014
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: should be right now, especially come out with the injury

1015
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: that he that he's sustained last year. You know, O'Dell's

1016
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: focus is playing ball. The contract negotiations, the contract situation,

1017
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: it's out of his control. He's done everything that he

1018
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: can possibly do as a player, as a teammate, as

1019
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: a person to obviously be rewarded with, you know, with

1020
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: a huge contract that that he's looking to eventually get. Um,

1021
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: you leave that up to the front office and his

1022
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: agent man. He his his job is to go out

1023
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: there and play football. Their job is to work out

1024
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: the contract negotiations and and get him in a comfortable

1025
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: situation where he can go out there and let loose

1026
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: and just be the Odell that we used to seeing

1027
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the point that you brought

1028
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: up earlier when you were talking about if you get

1029
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: your hands on the ball. From a corner perspective, you

1030
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: think about a million dollars here and there. From a

1031
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver's perspective, if he goes out there, not that

1032
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: he has a lot to prove. I think we know

1033
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 1: the player is. But if he goes out there week

1034
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: one gets back to his old self, puts up his

1035
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: usual numbers. The money, the contract goes hand in hand

1036
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: with the production. You know absolutely. Odell is the type

1037
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: of guy that you know. He's not gonna sty away

1038
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: from anything. He's gonna go out there. He's gonna play reckless,

1039
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna play scare free. He's gonna go out there

1040
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: and play ball. You might see a better Odell than

1041
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: you've ever seen before. And that's what teammates have said

1042
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: that Sterling Shepherd andrew I said on the record multiple

1043
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: times he thinks O does faster than he was before

1044
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: the injury. Have you seen that before? Have you seen

1045
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: guys they get hurt and then all of a sudden

1046
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: there's an extra gear that they can touch. Well, you

1047
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's it's it's it's a contribute

1048
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: to the work that he's put in this offseason. You know,

1049
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: have to sustain that. Andrew, you know, he had a

1050
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: crucial injury. So you know, for him to go out

1051
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: there and a fellow receiver to say that about you,

1052
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: you must be doing something. You must be doing something

1053
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: well out there on the practice field. And it has

1054
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: been reflected thus far based on his production in and

1055
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: out of practice every single day. Let's head back to

1056
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: the line we got Alan in d C. Alan, what

1057
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: do you have for us today? Gentleman? How's it going?

1058
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Speaker 1: Doing very well? Alan? We're talking about first of all,

1059
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: a big, big, big fan of Lontreil role. I mean,

1060
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: what he's done for the organization, and um, you know

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00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: the player that he was, you know when he was

1062
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: with the Giants, you know, uh, you know, I wish

1063
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: we had more players like him, you know you um,

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00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: uh you know with the you know we have a

1065
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: great team you know on paper this year, um, and

1066
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: you know we've lost some key Seablod defense, you know.

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00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: And I kind of wanted to hear Uhtrel's point of

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Speaker 1: view of you know, maybe the impact of losing a

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00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: guy like Jpp um. And you know, I know we

1070
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: still have a Livia Vernon and those guys, but know

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: what's more important to to to a defense? Um uh,

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00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of like the rushers or kind of like the

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00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: back end, like the secondaries and the corners. So the

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00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: loss of JPP, which obviously is a player that you're

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00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: very familiar with, going to weaken and week out with him,

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00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: and the fact that now Olivier Vernon, other than Connor,

1077
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: Barwin Androw's really the most proven commodity in terms of

1078
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: the pass rush. But they've brought in a lot of

1079
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: young guys through the draft, like a B. J. Hill

1080
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: who is flashed a lot. And they also have you

1081
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: know a few other veterans who I think have an

1082
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to break out. It goes without saying the depth

1083
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: of this defensive line is going to show how far

1084
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: this team can get in terms of a postseason run potentially. Yeah,

1085
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: I mean there's no doubt about it. Obviously, losing someone

1086
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: like JPP that's a huge loss. Um. You know, he's

1087
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: a phenomenal talent and JPP as a motor out this world.

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00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing that I've always said about

1089
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: JPP is one way or another he's gonna come up

1090
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: with the huge play in the game. You know, that's

1091
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: just who he is. Doesn't matter his interception, strip sacophone ball.

1092
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: You know, he's a It's just it's just given opportunities

1093
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: for younger guys to step up and make a name

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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: for themselves. You know, the guys behind Now this is

1095
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: because act you go out there and you play ball.

1096
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: It's your time. It's that sounds great, man. And you

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00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: know one more thing, you know, I always looked back

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: at that season that you guys had. When when when

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00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: you guys won the ring um, But can you tell

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00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: me your your your your most fondest moment of that

1101
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: season and or when when you thought, you know, it

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00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: all magnified into a super Bowl for you and you know,

1103
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: nothing is better than being the Patriots, you know. So

1104
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean to me that that was the best part

1105
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: for me. But as a player, like to hear you

1106
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: didn't play like, what was your findest moment of that season? Well,

1107
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: my funnest moment of that season was when we were

1108
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: seven we were seven and nine, we were seven and

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00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: nine or I'm not sure what our record was at

1110
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: that point in time. Um, I don't know. I just

1111
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: know that we needed to win against the Jets, and

1112
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: we need to win against Dallas against the playoffs. And

1113
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: I remember that week seven and seven against the Catch

1114
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys and the absolutely okay, so we were

1115
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: seven and seven, and I remember that that practice that

1116
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: we had on that Wednesday, there was no one on

1117
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: the sideline. And I'm used to seeing, you know, eight, nine,

1118
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: ten guys. Sometimes I siline right the bike and I

1119
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: remember there was no one on the sideline, and I said,

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00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: at that point in time, I said, okay, we're ready.

1121
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: I said, we're ready because now I have all my

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00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: brothers with me. Now we have all those guys that

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00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: I can just look at and understand what they want

1124
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: to do or what they're telling me just by a

1125
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: look in their eyes. Now we're same piece at the

1126
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: same time. Now let's see how good we can be.

1127
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: Let's wrong. And I remember that to me that day

1128
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: on that Wednesday, parties that defined our season for us.

1129
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's that's awesome. They're here, man. And you know,

1130
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are making a lot

1131
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: about Eli and you know his age and stuff, and

1132
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: but you know, I remember that season he took a

1133
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: beat down from San Francisco for the ninety and you know,

1134
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: he still got up every single time and every single snap. Um,

1135
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I'm still I still think

1136
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: the Giants are very fortunate to have somebody at his caliber,

1137
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: at his age, with the town that he has, and

1138
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and finally management has done a great job putting some

1139
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: offensive weapons around them, and um, you know again and

1140
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: thanks thanks so much for for all you did for

1141
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: the Giants, and um, you're one of my favorite players

1142
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: of all time. Thank you. I appreciate that, appreciate it,

1143
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: and thanks for weighing in. And you're referring to that

1144
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: Jets game, which coincidently we started the conversation off about

1145
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz and there you go at that. That was

1146
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: so sweet. That was so sweet. But you know, and

1147
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: talking about uh answering this question with Eli Manning. I

1148
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: remember that game in San Francisco. I just kept saying, over,

1149
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: oh man, this is it. He's not getting up, this

1150
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: is it. That's it. That I've always liked Eli as

1151
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but that was the game that I became

1152
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: an Eli Manning fan. I was a fan. I was like,

1153
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: this is one tough s o B. I mean I've

1154
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: never seen the defense just just oh my god, like

1155
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: they just they tore him. They tore them pieces. Eli

1156
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: was getting up and everything. It's in every single down

1157
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like they they came after him and he stood in

1158
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: that pocket, he got up off the ground. He's never

1159
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: single time and he always kept his focus on the prize.

1160
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean with the cruise killed people in that slot

1161
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: that game, you know, it's those are defining moments. Those

1162
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: are moments that you just you know, Okay, this is it,

1163
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: Like this is destined for us, because I don't care

1164
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: what quarterback you find, they're not sustain those hits like that,

1165
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: especially from the past rust in the linebackers that San

1166
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: Francisco ahead of that year. Well, and that's why his

1167
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: durability is remarkable. I mean, the fact that he has

1168
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: knocked on wood, remained healthy despite the hits that he's taken.

1169
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a season back in two thousand seven,

1170
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: this was obviously before you were the team, where you know,

1171
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: there was concerns about his shoulder and he played through that.

1172
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: So I mean that's what's remarkable. I think about his

1173
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: performance in speaking of that game, and you recall, I

1174
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: mean it was rainy it was muddy. It wasn't as

1175
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: if those were ideal conditions for anybody. They made the

1176
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: best of him. Man, you know, he got us to

1177
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: where we needed to be, absolutely, and that is why

1178
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: that two thousand eleven postseason run is a very unique

1179
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: run when it comes to NFL history because the two

1180
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: regular season games and then did not miss a beat

1181
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the postseason. Amazing. Man, you can't ask

1182
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: for a better team than that team, you can't, you know,

1183
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: we want That season wasn't for us. If you ask

1184
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: one hundred people, one hundred people will say there's no

1185
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: chance that the Giants are gonna win the Super Bowl

1186
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: at seven and seven, over two games left from the season.

1187
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: But that wasn't entirely. Entirely was we're gonna go out

1188
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: there and we're gonna practic together as a team, and

1189
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: let's just see what takes place when we're all out

1190
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: there with each other and put our minds together to

1191
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: have one common goal, which is a super Bowl. Well,

1192
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs started a few weeks early for you guys,

1193
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to look at it.

1194
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: And this is another game that I remember from that season.

1195
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about g p P against

1196
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: Dallas in Dallas a few weeks prior. That's a huge

1197
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: turning point to come back, and then the special teams play,

1198
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: he find he finds a way to make the big plans.

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: You don't win that game, who knows how the season

1200
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: plays out. So and the one thing about that season, Elo,

1201
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: it was one comeback after another for the team. I

1202
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: mean he had if you go back statistically, it was

1203
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: one of his best seasons because he threw the ball

1204
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: over the field back and then you name it. But

1205
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: it was one game where you were tested and then

1206
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: another game where you were tested again, and you guys

1207
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: still found the way to pull out those victories. Making

1208
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: a man, that's that's that's what team, That's why that's

1209
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: this team. That's what it's all about. Indeed, and that's

1210
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: why you got that nice trophy to look back on

1211
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: every time you think of that two thousand eleven seasons.

1212
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: See the hell with the turnover chain, I mean, the

1213
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: the the Lombardi Trophy is a lot more promising, I

1214
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: would say, Andrews the reward than the turnover change. Yeah,

1215
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's it's tough, you know, once everyone

1216
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: grabs the Lombardi trophy. You see all the fingerprints on that. Yeah,

1217
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't like a clean Lombardi tropes. No, No,

1218
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: you want everybody to message yes, And I'm sure everybody

1219
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: had fun with that back in two thousand eleven, as

1220
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of our callers at listitors did.

1221
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: Certainly appreciate everybody for tuning in. A reminder that Big

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Speaker 1: for that hour and then started the regular season, we'll

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Speaker 1: go back to a new time which we will let

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Speaker 1: you know well in advance. Anatural, it was a pleasure

1230
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: working with a lot of fun reminiscing. I hope you

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01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: enjoyed yourself. Always man, it's always always a blast whenever

1232
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: we come back in the building and obviously get intermact

1233
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: with the fans. Absolutely, So enjoy the rest of your

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Speaker 1: Tuesday here on Giants dot Com. For Farmer Giant Safety,

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