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Speaker 1: Wow, fantasy freaks and geeks. What's up? We welcome. It's

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. James co here with you

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Speaker 1: your host. Oh man, we got a great show in

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Speaker 1: front of us here today. Last week we talked about rookies.

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Speaker 1: This week, or I guess it was earlier. This week

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Speaker 1: we talked about rookies. Today we shall talk about aging vets,

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Speaker 1: who will be strong and who could be set for

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Speaker 1: an epic decline. Joined alongside by the magical Bear to

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Speaker 1: Fantasy himself, Met Franciskovitch. The franchise is in the building.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Man? It's that time of year

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Speaker 1: where you're trying to organize all of your fantasy drafts.

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Speaker 1: Are commission I am the commission of uh Dynasty League. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I got that. I got my league of record.

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Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be like eight more drafts in

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Speaker 1: a three day span, and I'm stressing out. I feel

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Speaker 1: like in a dynasty you should just do email drafts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an auction league. It's a long story, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I get I get anxious about these kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: I you know, to all the commissioners out there, God

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Speaker 1: bless you. Yeah, big commissioner sucks the dirty job, but

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Speaker 1: somebody's got to do it because we got the whiz

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Speaker 1: kid from Wisconsin out scale hard. What's cracking? Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: things are heating up, man, We're getting We're getting down

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Speaker 1: to go time here. August is the biggest month of

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Speaker 1: the season for us pretty much. Yea, we're just getting

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Speaker 1: ready get that grind. That grind is is coming back

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Speaker 1: And I will tell the listeners out there. Starting in August,

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Speaker 1: we will start our listener league. Drive right so rate review,

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Speaker 1: right now. But starting in August, we will solicit the

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Speaker 1: join us in a listener league. For those of you

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Speaker 1: following along, Marcus Grant, MG, my guy, what's up? Not

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Speaker 1: much man, it's another good day. We are We're close

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Speaker 1: with some real actual football news. You know. I guess

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Speaker 1: we actually have some now, We've got a lot absolutely

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Speaker 1: not I believe? Next Thursday? Yes, wow, the week from

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Speaker 1: let's cross, let's cross our fingers and hope that we

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Speaker 1: actually have a Hall of Fame game, that paint issues

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Speaker 1: are not going to the head, and that we actually

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Speaker 1: play football. Let's not count our football. You introduce me

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Speaker 1: so I can interject we have the fantasy Maverick himself,

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Speaker 1: Adam Rank Well, thank you appreciate that. Um. But last

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Speaker 1: Because now that everybody like, now that I know three

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Speaker 1: That's great. Uh. We have a vet report here for you.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we're gonna talk all things aging veterans.

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Speaker 1: the show, as always with your top headlines, the camera highlights,

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Speaker 1: freaking by continue to follow breaking your wife. Oh Man,

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Speaker 1: we got all kinds of news coming out of Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: just couple, it's craziness. Man. Look, we'll start with Kenneth Dixon.

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Speaker 1: actually considering drafting Joe Flacco. It's not so much drafted

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Speaker 1: the tight end position, which is why, you know, and

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Speaker 1: again I won't take a guy like Rob Gronkowski either.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's just me. I don't fault anybody for

427
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Speaker 1: doing it. It's just not me. It's not my style

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Speaker 1: of drafting. All right, Well, we'll stay at the tight

429
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Speaker 1: end position. We'll talk about guys, uh. We'll stay with

430
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Speaker 1: guys who are tight ends, who are continually hurt. We'll

431
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Speaker 1: talk about uh. Tyler effort. Apparently he looked like he

432
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Speaker 1: was good to go, according to Bengals dot Com. Geo

433
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: Bernard also looking like he's pretty healthy as well, per

434
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Speaker 1: the team's website. Remember Geo coming back from an A

435
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Speaker 1: c L. I for coming back from whatever injury ailment

436
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: that he has in his career. I think it's his

437
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Speaker 1: back this time. Speaking of guys that are always hurt

438
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: and on the Bengals as well, how about John Ross.

439
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about rookie unbelievable speed, but it

440
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: is still apparently a couple of weeks away from practicing.

441
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks away from practicing, per the team's website,

442
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: Ross had shoulder surgery this offseason. Uh. Not that John

443
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: Ross is gonna be a draftable player anyways, Matt Franciscovic,

444
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: but certainly this puts a damper there. Uh does it

445
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: give A J. Green any boost? Does it give you know, Uh,

446
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: Brandon LaFell a boost? Does it give? Um? Who am

447
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: I thinking of? Tyler boy a boost? It all? I think?

448
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: I think when the Bengals drafted Ross, they knew that

449
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Speaker 1: he was gonna be in line for the surgery, so

450
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Speaker 1: this is probably part of their plan. Uh. And it's

451
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Speaker 1: the shoulder things, so it's not going to affect his speed.

452
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Speaker 1: But as long as he's out, I think, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: I think him being on the field would help a

454
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Speaker 1: guy like A J. Green because it distracts the defenses. Um.

455
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Speaker 1: And as far as Brandon LaFell and Tyler Boyd, I mean,

456
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm probably not looking at those guys in fantasy. A J.

457
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: Green is the only guy I want, and then maybe

458
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: I'll take a late round flyer on a guy like Ross. Uh.

459
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Speaker 1: So I think his absence is a negative because he's

460
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Speaker 1: a rookie and he needs those reps. But once he's

461
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Speaker 1: on the field, I think him just running down the

462
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: field will help, uh, you know, get defenses off a

463
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Speaker 1: guy like a J. Green. So let's go to Denver.

464
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: Tavante Booker fractured his wrist. He's gonna start training camp

465
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Speaker 1: on the puff list. He is expected to miss what

466
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Speaker 1: six to eight weeks I think was the report there.

467
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Speaker 1: So uh, certainly it opens the door for Jamal Charles,

468
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Speaker 1: who reported to camp healthy. H And he is a

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Speaker 1: name that right now. I mean you're looking at him

470
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Speaker 1: going in the double digit rounds. But just because the

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Speaker 1: name value, because of where he's playing a high profile

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Speaker 1: team like the Denver Broncos, I would imagine Marcus Grant

473
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Speaker 1: that his value will start to go up in terms

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Speaker 1: of his a DP, his true value I don't know,

475
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: but it's a DP I know will go up. Yeah,

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00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think you're looking at this whole this

477
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: whole backfield is just sort of weird. It's a mess. Yeah, franchise,

478
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: I wish. I'm glad you're here to clean I'm here.

479
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: I'll clean it up for you. I got my broom.

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00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's sort of a mess. I

481
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: don't but doesn't the DeVante Booker issue the injury anyways

482
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: clear it up for you a bit, a little bit,

483
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know that my issue with

484
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: c J. Anderson was so much who was gonna take touches?

485
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Speaker 1: Because I don't I don't know. I guess I wasn't

486
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: really concerned about DeVante Booker. Um. I just wonder if

487
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Speaker 1: this this group, if this team can run the ball

488
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: effectively at all at all, you know, I just I

489
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: have so many questions about the Broncos offense. We once

490
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Speaker 1: started with who's going to be the quarterback? Is it

491
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Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon? Is it going to be Paxton Lynch? And

492
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: I think everything kind of you know, flows from there.

493
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Speaker 1: You know, after what we saw from DeVante Booker last year,

494
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody was really counting on him

495
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: to be a big factor. And what happens this year, Um,

496
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's still the issue of what Jamal Charles

497
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Speaker 1: can be, whether or not he's going to be and

498
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: I know, working get to an the vet report. Um,

499
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I just as much as I really wanted C J.

500
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Anderson to pop last year and it didn't quite happen. Um,

501
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm sort of off this backfield as a hole this year. Uh,

502
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: there's a super sleeper there, right Angelo Henderson, Angelo Henderson,

503
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to save that one. I'll give it

504
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: all away that people work for Super Sleeper, Well we are,

505
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: we are the people. You are the creator of the

506
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: danger Zone. There's people right now taking notes and writing

507
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: down D'Angelo Henderson. Can you tell me about his game

508
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's as he's a true speedster. He's

509
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: somebody who's, you know, more of a project. But we've

510
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: seen with the Broncos and I know they've had many, many,

511
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: many coaching changes, it seems like over the last couple

512
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: of years. But um, but I think that he's somebody

513
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: who could come in and make a little bit of

514
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: an impact. I don't think that they see C. J.

515
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: Anderson is a long term value. I think that Jamal

516
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: Charles has some has some injury history, even though he's

517
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Speaker 1: healthy right now. So the one thing I like about

518
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: D'Angelo is that he's gonna have an opportunity and I

519
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch it. I don't necessarily like watching

520
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: to see, like, well, who's gonna play and who's this

521
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: if they if the Broncos don't sign a veteran, like

522
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: if they don't feel the need to bring in somebody else.

523
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: Then that means to me that they have a lot

524
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: of confidence in him, that they're going to give him

525
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: a full run. And I truly believe that we'll see

526
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: enough flashes out of him late in preseason games that

527
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: his name will be trending on Twitter and people like, hey,

528
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: where did I draft him in the tenth round? You're like, well,

529
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: maybe but the Bronco But but like Marcus said, there's

530
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: really nothing concrete about this offense and everything's pure flyer

531
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Speaker 1: and this this is actually kind of like why I

532
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: like drafting this time of year, because like, you gotta

533
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: make this call right now, like who is gonna be

534
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: like and you'll have the glory forever if you take Canderson. Man,

535
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what thing about Henderson, He's already twenty

536
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: five years old, So now you're gonna aide shame him.

537
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's old for a rookie. So it's Mike

538
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: and or some so not drafting this guy for the

539
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: next five years, drafting him for this year. That's all

540
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: that matters. We'll stay in the n C West. Cardale

541
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Jones just because you're not twenty five yet and can't

542
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: rent a car, you gotta take it out and pour D'Angelo.

543
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm just pointed out. He said he's a

544
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: super sleeper. See, people in dynasty leagues are starting to

545
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: look at guys like this. You know, he's starting, you

546
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: know what, And he just wants to make an NFL roster,

547
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: hopefully make an impact. Hopes and dreams mail you and

548
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: you hate that, you're against it. I am. I don't

549
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: want anyone to succeed. Every hope. Everyone always anti dreams.

550
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: This podcast took a dark term dour. Now, oh man,

551
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, we'll say let's check in with Facebook Live.

552
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: What's up? Uh? Cardale Jones traded to the Chargers. The

553
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Charges gave up a late round draft pick. Uh. He

554
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: goes from Buffalo to l A. I got it right

555
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: this time. There you go. Oh my gosh. It's a

556
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 1: major weather upgrade for him, major weather upgrade. Um. I

557
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: did not Rich only put this in the rundown, but

558
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: it is now in the rundown. We don't have to

559
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: talk about it in all caps for whatever reason, Alex Gill,

560
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: don't forget that. At the end of it, says Cardale

561
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. This is big news. This is big news.

562
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: It's in all Caps. No, it's really not big news.

563
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I just I was making sure we hadn't I hadn't

564
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: missed any other like training camp injuries because I was

565
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: watching the US Gold Cup victory last night, so I

566
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't realize Flacco was injured. Like I pulled up Twitter later,

567
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I was holding my couch and I see you like

568
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: fantasy gods, please Dixon Flacco. And I was I'm like, wait,

569
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: what's happened a Flacco? No, I know it was the

570
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: The injury news was coming hot and heavy. Man, it was.

571
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: It was a crazy day yesterday. All right, let's talk

572
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: about some um some vets. Let's aging, vets aging. You

573
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Cardale. I do not want

574
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: to talk about Cardal. I like Cardale Jones is a

575
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: good prospect. I think he's a good prospect. Was his

576
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator last year. It's true our interim head coach, right,

577
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, but is it I don't even know if

578
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. I feel like we should take

579
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: this conversation offline. I don't know if that's a good thing.

580
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Is he's the guy that put him third strink, you

581
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Just because he wasn't ready to

582
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: play last year. Doesn't mean that he's a prospect now

583
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I know he traded for him big body if if

584
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: no one's familiar with Cardiel Jones, big body guy needs

585
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: to work on his uh his accuracy. But man, he

586
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: has a freaking cannon. Um and it it and I

587
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: think it actually pairs well with what you know Philip

588
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Rivers does already. He's a good backup anyways for San Diego.

589
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: So there you go. Let's Los Angeles. O. Man, you

590
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: know it's fun because we took him back, gave him

591
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: one last chance to so l a. Alright, should we

592
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: call I feel like, can we call him the Carson

593
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Chargers does Let's call him the Clippers. It's called the

594
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: cars they're playing because from San Diego exactly. Um, let's

595
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: talk about aging veterans. We're talking about guys that are

596
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: just thirty thirty years and up, uh not twenty five

597
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: years in older. I know, franchise that's the franchise that's

598
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: the oldest, Like they're the old Uh this guy, let's go,

599
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: You're not like Kyrie Irving because he's twenty five. Do

600
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: you feel like an NBA too far? I feel like

601
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: he's been in a league for like a billion years

602
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: because they come out and they all, right, Uh, let's

603
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: talk about a vets at well to five father time, Allah,

604
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Larry Fits, We'll start with the franchise. He got an

605
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: aging veteran on your mind that you think will again

606
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: perform in seen you know what I'm gonna go within

607
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates here. Okay, everyone's on Hunter Henry and I

608
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: understand he's a rising, arising prospect. But Antonio Gates and

609
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: fourteen games still saw ninety three targets last year, a

610
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: lot that will probably come down, but uh, not so

611
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: much where he won't have value in fantasy like even

612
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: if his targets regress to maybe sixty five seventy, like,

613
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: he'll that's still like enough time in one value in

614
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: a twelve team league, right And and him and Rivers

615
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: are working on the record books. I think he needs

616
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: one more touchdown to break the Tony Gonzalez record for

617
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: tight ends. Uh. And I think he's gonna as long

618
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: as he's healthy. Healthy. He's thirty seven years old. Now,

619
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going to remain a big part of

620
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: that offense. And there's a lot of a lot of

621
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers. There are a lot of targets to go around,

622
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: but I think Gates is the go to guy in

623
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the red zone. And right now, Gates is a He's

624
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: a throwaway pick in draft. Oh yeah, I mean you're

625
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: getting this guy round for free tight end sixteen or

626
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: something like that on average. It so I would say,

627
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, even if you miss on the pick, yeah,

628
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't I mean, it doesn't hurt you. There's no risk, right,

629
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: there's no risk because there's gonna be another tight end

630
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: that you could probably. I think Dion Sam's for Chicago.

631
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I think will be a guy that you know, if

632
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: you miss on Gates, Dion Sims will be there exactly

633
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So and what what drop off

634
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: are you really kitting there? So I don't hate it.

635
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that they're gonna go They're gonna

636
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: try to get Gates the record early. I think like

637
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: week two, when they're playing in front of thirty thousand

638
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans for sure stub Hub Center. Then it's like, hey,

639
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: he's got the record, Like okay, now goodbye, all right.

640
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: I wish you know who I wish would do something

641
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: like that. The Angels, like, hey, pool Holes got a

642
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: six hundre of tone round you can battomate now for

643
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: not at all? Alright, uh Adam, like give me an

644
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: aging vet, you believe well to five father time. I

645
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: didn't know until you had kind of given us a

646
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: handy list that this young man was thirty years of age.

647
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: But Pierre Garson, I'm all about this season. I think

648
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: in the might excuse me, the Kyle Shanahan offense in

649
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco that I think, of course that team is

650
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna struggle, but the offense will not. They're gonna be

651
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: in a position where they're gonna be throwing the ball

652
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: in absolute ton. And you know, Poyer and Barkley are serviceable.

653
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: They they took a guy like they did well last

654
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: year for Cam Meredith and and all seon Jeffrey, and

655
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: so I think that they they're they're good enough quarterbacks

656
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to make this guy an effective an effective weapon. And

657
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: and finding number one receivers is not you know. That's

658
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: that's where I like to lean, you know, because a

659
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: lot of people would go after the two guy or

660
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: number one receivers in in a high vault, a high

661
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: volume offensive with a terrible off a bad team. But

662
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: the offense should be good enough. And I think that

663
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Pierre goes on Is is highly undervalued and he's somebody

664
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: who could Definitely he's gonna flirt with the top ten.

665
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, I flirt with a top ten that's in

666
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: fantasy points. Yes, bro, that's easy. I don't even think

667
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: that's a bold I don't even think that's a bold

668
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: proclamation to top tennis receiver. It's not gonna be a time.

669
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to be harangued. If he finishes eleventh,

670
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: you will think I actually think it would have been

671
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: a bold call to say he would flirt with the

672
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: top twenty finish. I don't think that's bold at all.

673
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Now you're being ridiculous, all right, he's got a value

674
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: in the MIDI I want the mild salsa place. I

675
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: want the pace. Filed on Fantasy Football Calculator. Last year

676
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: he had a thousand and forty one yards three touchdowns,

677
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: though the ten forty one was the second most of

678
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: his career in the second at one thousand yard season

679
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: in his illustrious nine year career. Now he goes to

680
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: San Francisco, goes to Kyle Shanahan. I don't particularly I

681
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: won't be investing I will not be investing in. Okay, Fine,

682
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: And like I said, I think you don't act like

683
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna hurt my feelings. Fine, I'll just him. I'm happy.

684
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Don't invent guy, Marcus Grant, give me an edging vet

685
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: you believe will perform in a right can I Can

686
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I tell you a guy that's not on this list?

687
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Of course? Um? So, Michael Crabtree turns thirty like two

688
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: weeks into the season before one. Alright, right now, he

689
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: turns thirty in mid September. It's literally like a couple

690
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: of weeks into the season. It's his age thirty season,

691
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: right correct, Um, And I know everybody, everybody's waiting for

692
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper to hit that ceiling, to be the guy

693
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: that we all believe he can be. Uh. In the interim,

694
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: Michael crab Tree has been maybe the better fantasy receiver,

695
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's kind of a better guy in

696
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: that office the last couple of years for all the

697
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: all the great athletic things that a Maria Cooper can

698
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: do when the Raiders need to move the football, when

699
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: they've got to pick up first downs. Derek carrs looking

700
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: in Michael Crabtree's direction, he's the guy who's kind of

701
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: that possession receiver. He's the chain mover. He's not I

702
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: know it's not I know it's not sexy, but he

703
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: gets the football. He's got really quality hands, and he

704
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: also gets more red zone books. I don't know. I

705
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: don't know why a Marie Cooper doesn't get looked at

706
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: in the red zone, but he just doesn't. And so

707
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Michael wed Michael Crabtree get some of those looks there.

708
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: And so I don't see why this changes this year. Um,

709
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: even even if a Marie Cooper has a big season,

710
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: I just don't know how Michael Crabtree still doesn't end

711
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: up with a thousand receiving yards and somewhere hanging around

712
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: that top fifteen. Again. All right, Michael Crabst, you're right now,

713
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: and Fantasy Football Calculator has an eight UH in the fifties,

714
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: so you can get him in the fifth or six

715
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: ound of your fantasy drafts. Alex Gelhar, give me an

716
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: aging veteran that you believe will be better than anticipated

717
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: in Well, one guy who isn't on this list who

718
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to is my

719
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: boy Jordie Nelson. I think he's gonna turn thirty two

720
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: this year. Okay. And also fun stat I discovered yesterday,

721
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: over the last three seasons he's played with Rogers, just

722
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: counting the games they played together because Rogers missed seven

723
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: with that broken collar bone, Nelson averages about twenty eight

724
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: point six percent of the red zone targets from Rogers.

725
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: It seems high. That's a lot. It's a lot, so

726
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: he should be still bit pretty solid this year. But

727
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: another guy wanted to shout out, though that's not on

728
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: this list, is the aging jitterbug Darren Sprowles, who could

729
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: get a lot of work catching passes in Philadelphia. They've

730
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: got like Garrett Blunt for that early down role. After that,

731
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: who knows, Wendell Smallwood, maybe Ryan Matthews probably getting cut. Meanwhile,

732
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Sprowles put up especially in PPR format Sproles put up

733
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: a decent season last year. He's probably gonna be a

734
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: lock for about fifty some catches. I don't want to

735
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: be surprised. He got a hundred ish carries too, and

736
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: he'll just have one of those very quietly solid but

737
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: unspectacular years and you can get him for basically free

738
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: in drafts. I agree with that all right? I like it,

739
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: Uh flip side of this coin. A vet that could

740
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: completely fall off, And we've seen it in football so often,

741
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: where a guy gets I mean, he's he's chuggling along,

742
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: chugging along, chugging along, and you start to see it

743
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of rust, but then that next season

744
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: just completely falls off the cliff. Adam mich will start

745
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: with you give me an aging vet that you believe

746
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: has some serious red flags, Carson Palmer, That too easy, No,

747
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: it's not too easy, now. Can I think we saw

748
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: at the end of last year or even it's the

749
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: entire season, he just wasn't playing very well. And I

750
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: think that he's one of those players who had a

751
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: fine window and the Cardinals could not get it done.

752
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: You know it, he retired. I mean, it seems so

753
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: long ago when he retired. I know he really just

754
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: didn't want to play for the Bengals anymore. And who

755
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: can blame him, But he's still had a couple of

756
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: years with the Raiders and then went to Arizona and

757
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: then he's battled injuries and he's somebody and it really

758
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: kind of frightens me. For the majority of the Arizona offense.

759
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe not David Johnson. Of course, he would still

760
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: be the top three pick even if Drew Stanton was

761
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but for Carson Palmer because you're always looking

762
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: for late, late round quarterbacks and somebody can rely on.

763
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: And I Carson Palmer was that guy for me last

764
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: year and it sucked. It was well, it's because two

765
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: years ago he had been so great, great, Bruce arians

766
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: is there and now you're sting VP candidate two years

767
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And now um, even with Bruce arians, Um,

768
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: he's getting older and he's had a lot of health

769
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: concerns and you're like, how long is he going to

770
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: be around? I mean, is this one of those things

771
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: where it's their last hurrah and they play really well

772
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: and they're making another extended run of the playoffs or

773
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: is it it's their last hurra and they go four

774
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: and twelve and I could see it going that way.

775
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: So that I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it's scared.

776
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: Is me enough to be like I don't want to

777
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with anybody outside of David Johnson. Right, So,

778
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: and so we're talking about John Brown, We're talking about

779
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. Guys, who yeah, and if John Brown takes

780
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: a ridiculous tumble, You're like, okay, fine, I will I

781
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: think we got pushed on that when we did the

782
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: fourteen team mock draft. You're like, all right, now we're

783
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: being ridiculous about John Brown. I'm gonna take him here.

784
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, even though I just I see the Cardinals,

785
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I like it taking a step back. I could see

786
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: that benefiting the Seahawks. You know, the Seahawks just kind

787
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: of cruising. It's been so competitive in the NFC West

788
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now because even with the

789
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: Rams not playing as well, they were competitive and they

790
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: were really good. They were really good in the Division two.

791
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Um well that defense man, of course.

792
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: And so I think this could be an easy year

793
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: for the for the Seahawks and Arizona concerns me. Matt Franciscovitch,

794
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: give me an aging vet. You believe could have a

795
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: precipitous fall. So you put in the notes, uh, and

796
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: is being overdrafted. So I went with that, and I'm

797
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna go Marshawn Lynch, Oh, I see a bet that

798
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: could completely fall off and is being completely right. So

799
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Marshall believe Marshawn is being overdrafted. Yeah, he's being drafted

800
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: as the twelfth running back off the board right now,

801
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: which I think is a little lower than maybe a

802
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: week or two ago. I think we talked about this,

803
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: but there seems to be two sides of the Marshawn

804
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: Lynch arguments. Some people think he's going to be a stud,

805
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: like lead the league in rushing touchdowns? How could he

806
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: not in an offense like Oakland. And then there's the

807
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: other side of the coin that's like, yeah, but they

808
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: have DeAndre Washington, they have Jalen Richard. Marshawn Lynch hasn't

809
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: played in an entire year. The last time we saw

810
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: that him, his body was broken down. I just don't

811
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: think you can invest technically a second round pick and

812
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: a guy like Lynch this year and just have him

813
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: as your RB one. I understand I want him to

814
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: do well, but everyone wants him to do well. Everyone

815
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: loves Beast Mode, you know. But I just I don't

816
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: see him being an RB one in fantasy this year,

817
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: just because of all those things adding up. That's you know.

818
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal had a tweet yesterday too, saying what his

819
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: tweet was basically along the lines of it's weird how

820
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: the fantasy community is treating Marshawn Lynch like this is

821
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. But my I think my counter to that

822
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: was not really because if this was Marshawn Lynch behind

823
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: this offensive line, he'd be a top five pick man.

824
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: So and I think that's why he's what we're seeing

825
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: now is him going in the late second, early third round.

826
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: It also makes me sad that it makes me feel

827
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: like Rosie isn't listening to our podcast. Nobody in this

828
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: in this building, we love all our listeners outside, I

829
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know we've got there's a nice fan base in

830
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the building not here now. It's like it's like I

831
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: could start dropping a string of f bombs, yes, and

832
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: nobody would know inside of this building until somebody tweeted them.

833
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: As long as nobody tattletaled on you, that would be

834
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: the only way. Because there's like, like even there's a

835
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: there's a guy in here who listens to all the

836
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: part or listens to most of the podcast because he

837
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to ours. And I won't call him out,

838
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: but his name rhymes with Mark Brady and he's kind

839
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: of in charge of all the pockets and he doesn't

840
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: even listen to this one. He will go through every

841
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: second of every podcast except for this one. And it's like,

842
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: I'll give him if he's listening, I'll give him a dollar.

843
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Come to my desk. I will give you a dollar

844
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: if you hear this, and I swear, and I swear

845
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: if one of you tell. And you know, actually, these

846
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: people have been cool. These people, these people I've turned

847
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: for wrestling people. You people don't understand. That's when you

848
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: know the wrestlers made the change. You people don't respect me.

849
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: You don't like bald people or whatever. Um No, because people,

850
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: because I nobody knocked when I when I when I

851
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: put Harmon up for the Bachelor, did we ever? Did

852
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: he ever get a that? Damn it? Um So nobody

853
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: knocked on that. So you guys are cool. But yeah,

854
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: if if Mark Brady is literally listening to this, I

855
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: will hand him a dollar out of my own wallet

856
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: or out of Alex's if he use it on his desk. Actually, Dylan,

857
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: one of our producers, always least as while I understand,

858
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: I'll think it from Dylan's good I don't even know

859
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: what The point is, I don't know, Marsh. I think

860
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: people are drafting viewing Marshawn like they were viewing Latavius

861
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: Murray Land. They're just assuming he's gonna have Latavius Murray's production.

862
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: It's not fair for the red zone carries. Yeah, that's valuable.

863
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get that, And I don't think that

864
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: we're we're wrong. Like, I don't think we're far off

865
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: from what we're saying. I think that the Around the

866
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: League podcast likes to just make these narratives and like

867
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: because two of them came from the fantasy community, so

868
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: they like to be like you fantasy idiots. Yeah that's

869
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: not always us and like, listen, do you want to

870
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: go through your making the leap candidates from last year?

871
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: You guys aren't always right either, Like you don't act

872
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: like we're some rubes who don't understand football. I've had

873
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: a discussion with Quests about this. Sometimes I love them, no,

874
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: and I'm not disparaging any of them. I have great

875
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: affection for all of them. It's it's a general thing.

876
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Real quick aside that like football writers use fantasy as

877
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: just the whipping horse in you know, the media, NFL coverage,

878
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, fantasy guys said this, but come on,

879
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: look like, when we here in the business of having

880
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: to project and forecast everything, you're inherently going to be

881
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: wrong if you're not going to be right in a

882
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: completely unpredictable game. But let's never forget that should be

883
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: a top twelve, top twelve pick, top twelve twelve. Anyways,

884
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: you had the three touchdowns in that one game. Back

885
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: to rant over all, right, good, Um, I don't even

886
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: where do we leave a hush marshawn I wasn't. I'm

887
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: just avoiding at ADP because he's old and being overdrafted.

888
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, aging veteran mg my and Marcus

889
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Grant that could completely fall off the cliff this year.

890
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Matt Forte, but I feel

891
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: like that's sort of not fair. Not only is he

892
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the goat, my best friend Don was part of the reasons.

893
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: So instead I'm gonna go Brandon Marshall. Um, Okay, you know,

894
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: I think everybody just assumes that he's going to elbow

895
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd out of the way for all these extra targets,

896
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not totally sure about that. Um,

897
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, talking about a guy who is what, he's

898
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: thirty three years old, kind have been around the league

899
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: for a little while. I think he will certainly get

900
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: some maybe extra looks in the red zone, but I

901
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: don't know that he walks into a number two role,

902
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: uh in this offense. Add to it that right now

903
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: he's coming off the board ahead of some guys like

904
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Golden Tate. Uh, you know, Dante mont Creeve, Larry Fitz, Joe,

905
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Willie Sneed, Stefan Digs, guys who I think we'll earn

906
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: a larger target share in their respective offenses. That seemed

907
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: maybe not guarantee, but certainly on track for a larger

908
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: target share in their respective offenses. Um, you know, I

909
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know that I could spend a late fifth round

910
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: pick on Brandon Marshall when some of those other guys

911
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: are still hanging around out He's a top sixty pick

912
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Football Calculator. I was gonna say I will

913
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: take no piece, so I'll just chime in. Last year,

914
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: he posted the lowest catch rate of his career and

915
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: the second lowest touchdown total he saw over over almost

916
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty targets to which is a number

917
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: he'll be hard pressed to get in New York with

918
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard, there, Evan ingram Odell Beckham commanding a ton.

919
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: And on top of that, like, yeah, you could point

920
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: to his quarterback play last year being subpar. I don't

921
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: know if anybody watched Eli Manning the last like six

922
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: games of the year when he averaged six yards per

923
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: attempt in five yards adjusted per attempt, couldn't those are

924
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: brock Osweiler numbers. Like I'm not exaggerating, Like if you

925
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: those were his numbers for the season, he would have

926
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: been on par with brock Oswelder. And also when the

927
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: obviously the Jets did not have great quarterback play, but

928
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: one thing that the quarterbacks that did play for them

929
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: through at the Brandon Marshall every time forced That's why

930
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: that's why Fitzpatrick had so many interceptions because he always

931
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: was forcing the bottom and which is great because I

932
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: had Marshal one of my teams. That will contribute to

933
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: a bad catch rate, as if a lot of passes

934
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: are getting thrown at you that are getting intercepted, but

935
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: but he's not, but he's not gonna get But I

936
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: agree with you, but he's not gonna get those targets.

937
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: I would I would be baffled if he got a

938
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: hundred thirty targets, say Sterling, Shepherd gets more. I think

939
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: Shepherd's a nice sleeper. There was an article the other

940
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: day on NFL dot com where he was quoted saying,

941
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited to have Brandon Marshall here because it's him

942
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: and O b J on the outside are gonna open

943
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: things up for me and Evan Ingram. Yeah, we talked

944
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: about that on Monday, yeah, or whatever. And the Giants

945
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: ran more three wide sets than anybody. Yeah, that's the

946
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: whole lot. That was the majority of their plays last year,

947
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: with three wide sets and four wide sets. So Shepherd

948
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be out there. I love I'm with you.

949
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I love Shepherd this season. And he's not old enough

950
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: to rent a car, so you also, and you could

951
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: get him super late. So franchise brand. Yes, Hey, did

952
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: you ever own an intend out? No? I love you. Yeah,

953
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: that's good. Perfect. Uh. Brandon Marshall top sixty pick is

954
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: to me baffling, baffling. I just I can't see this

955
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: guy living up to that price tag at thirty three

956
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: years old. We saw the wheels come off last year.

957
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: I just man to me, no way a I touching

958
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall with a top sixty pick. That is insanity

959
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: to me. And I get it to two years ago.

960
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy that put a d yards

961
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: um and what was it fifteen touchdowns something crazy crazy

962
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: amount of touchdowns. Uh and and so that wasn't you know?

963
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: That was recent memory And I understand that, but no

964
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: way do I see you. We we mentioned Stirling Shepard,

965
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: we mentioned oh b J. Although I do think it's

966
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: a little bit am I am I in the am

967
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: I the only person in the room that is scared

968
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: that Brendan Marshall might actually detract from OH b J's

969
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: value a little bit. No, you're the only one I know.

970
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I know, and I know it's a little bit. Listen,

971
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: like Brandon Marshall, Like, listen, you're gonna go do inside

972
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: the NFL on Tuesday nights, come out here, take a

973
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: couple of photos in that giant's uniform. We'll throw you

974
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: a couple of passes. But you know this is Odell

975
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. Like that spirit, it's like a no show

976
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: job for Brandon Martha, Like you he's a big time

977
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: college quarterback or something. It happens like it happens to

978
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: the receivers where you're like, oh, this guy will play

979
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: forever and then they fall off. It reminds me of

980
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: like Keena McCardell when he was with the Charges. You're like, gosh,

981
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: if he has another season like the last one and

982
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I forget what his last like, his last productive easier

983
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: like that, this guy could be the Hall of Fame.

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: And then the next year he just disappeared and he

985
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: was just mid thirties. You know there? You alright? So

986
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: we talked sound effect. That's great. We talked about some

987
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: notable vets, uh that could defy father time. We talked

988
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: about some notable vets that could completely fall off. But

989
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: let's talk about some big name veterans that again are

990
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of getting up there in terms of age. Larry Fitzgerald,

991
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: thirty three years old, had a hundred and seven receptions

992
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: last year, a thousand yards, six touchdowns. Adam Rinka, I

993
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: know that you led the NFL, right was he second behind?

994
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: I think he led the NFL. It was kind of

995
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: a it was kind of a depressed year for receptions

996
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: and targets. Because I think the target leader was like

997
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: thirty off with Mike Evans on what used to be

998
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: the tops, because what Mike Evin's had, like a hundred

999
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: sixty five is crazy to think about. The Cardinals had

1000
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: David Johnson who was otherworldly compared to other fantasy players,

1001
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: and then Larry Fitzgerald also tripped in with a hundred

1002
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: and seven receptions. There was nothing waiting PPR. I don't

1003
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: know if that says anything about the rest of the

1004
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: supporting cast or or what have you. You talked, you

1005
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: touched on it briefly. They're talking about, you know, Carson

1006
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Palmer in Arizona, but uh large concerned for Larry Fitzgerald.

1007
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean there is I mean, and I'm doing this

1008
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: relative to where his his value, whiz, where's ADPs going?

1009
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: And when you play in leagues He's got an ad

1010
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: P in the mid seventies by the one. Yeah, that

1011
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: still seems but everybody who's doing those leagues now are

1012
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: quote unquote sharps. So I think he falls a little bit.

1013
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: But I think when you get to more casual players,

1014
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: he's going to go off the board sooner. And I

1015
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: think that if you are you know, if you're you're

1016
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: new to the game or you're more cat and that's

1017
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: which is cool, man. We want you on board and

1018
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: having fun and doing all that stuff. You know. Let

1019
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: somebody else take a risk of that. I love Larry Fitzgerald.

1020
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Famer receivers ever seen.

1021
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: But I think that unless he tumbles a little bit

1022
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: further in your draft that I would there's other guys

1023
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: I would rather if he gets into round eleven. All right,

1024
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: Can we talk about Jamal Charles thirty years old? God?

1025
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I feel like this guy has been in the league

1026
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: a long time, but thirty years old. Um, you know

1027
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I was looking into Jamal child I forgot. I mean,

1028
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: of course we knew about him being hurt last year, right,

1029
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I forgot that he was hurt for almost all of

1030
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: fifteen as well. It's been it's been two full seasons

1031
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: since we've seen Jamal Charles be healthy. Played three games

1032
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: last year, had twelve total carries, and he played five

1033
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: games in he opens camp reportedly healthy. He is a

1034
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: top one hundred player on Fantasy Football Calculator, and I

1035
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: think the news of DeVante Booker will only help his value.

1036
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: Um mg, my got Marcus grant your thoughts on on

1037
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles. I'm scared. Um, you know, it's you're talking

1038
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: about a guy who's had, you know, a couple of

1039
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: major knee injuries in his career. You mentioned that he's

1040
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: played a total of eight games in the last two seasons.

1041
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: Eight games eight in the last two seasons. Um, I

1042
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just, you know, I know, part of

1043
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: when you hear from athletes, especially who have gone through

1044
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: major knee injuries like this, even if physically everything has sound,

1045
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: so many of them will tell you that that part

1046
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: of it is just mentally trusting that injury after having

1047
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: spent that much time way, Um, you know, obviously I

1048
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how Jamal Charles is thinking about this.

1049
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's feeling mentally about it. But

1050
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: you wonder, yeah, if he has that sort of consternation,

1051
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: is he going to get the opportunities enough to kind

1052
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: of work through it? Especially with C J. Anderson there.

1053
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, whenever DeVante Booker potentially comes back, is he

1054
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna get enough love, Is he gonna get enough looks

1055
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: to actually work through this and look like the former

1056
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles? And you know, for that reason. I don't

1057
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: know that I would touch him in a draft. I

1058
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody is, but I certainly wouldn't. That's interesting.

1059
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like where he's going. Well,

1060
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: this is if he goes in the eleventh round and

1061
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: knowing that Devontae Booker won't be there to start the season.

1062
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: And and again, I know his you know, his health

1063
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: is fragile, but I don't know, I don't hate it.

1064
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm viewing this as like the same way we viewed

1065
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: Arian Foster going into last year. But Arian Foster's ADP

1066
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: was in like the fifth round. It was something crazy.

1067
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: So where Charles is now, Yeah, maybe you can take

1068
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: a flyer on him, but I want to seem on

1069
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: the field in training camp, in a preseason game, see

1070
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: what he looks like. I honestly I generally avoid, you know,

1071
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: aging players like this. You know, obviously two seasons just

1072
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: obliterated by injury. But I just I don't know what

1073
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: it is. It's just I think the offense can be okay. Um.

1074
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I think the talent level is certainly there if he's healthy.

1075
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: And again, just the price tag that you're paying in

1076
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: the eleventh round I'll, i'll, I'll sign up for Jamal Charles. There,

1077
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: why not? If it's lightning in a bottle? Great? And

1078
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: if it's not, what the hell do I care? Cut

1079
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: baiton and move on to somebody else. But I don't

1080
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: hate to pick there if you're gonna get him in

1081
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: the eleventh looking at the bargain bin at the back

1082
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: of Ralphs. So how how is this? How long this

1083
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: loaf of bread? Perhaps a week old? But it's so

1084
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: how long do you hang on to him? Though? To

1085
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: figure out if you've caught that lightning in a bottle?

1086
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: I think I gotta be more than one week, right, right?

1087
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: Are you hanging on to him for a month? You've

1088
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: then you've you've pretty much locked up that roster spot

1089
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: for a month. And that is the thing, right, And

1090
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about on the podcast to man oh Man, Sorry,

1091
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: we've talked about it on this podcast before too, Right, Like,

1092
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: if you're, you know, investing a deep sleeper pick on

1093
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: a guy, don't bail on him after a week. So

1094
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: you're right. If I'm gonna spend an eleventh round pick

1095
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: on Jamal Charles, I'm waiting at least three weeks to

1096
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: see if there's anything there. You're right, Yeah, And just

1097
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: for contact, guys going in the same range, c J. Procise,

1098
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: James White, Darren Spoils. We talked about Jeremy Hill. These

1099
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: guys all have way more upside I would, I would

1100
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: say than Jamal Charles. That's interesting, less risk, I would agree,

1101
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: it's Procise, Jeremy Hill. You think more upside? Yeah for

1102
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: the touchdowns. Yeah, okay, all right, there you go. We'll

1103
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk about Adrian Peterson, thirty two years old.

1104
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: He played three games last year coming off of meniscus

1105
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: tear of his own though. We're talking about a guy

1106
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: that had seen hundred total yards and eleven total touchdowns.

1107
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: He was an absolute monster in as we've seen so

1108
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: often in Adrian Peterson's career. But now he's in New Orleans.

1109
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: Alex Gilhard want to get your thoughts on a p there.

1110
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like this is what we haven't said.

1111
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: It's this is such a hard one to figure out because,

1112
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: like we don't know anything about this situation right now.

1113
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: We don't know how Adrian Peterson has bounced back from

1114
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: his devastating leg injury last year. We don't know how

1115
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: the split is gonna happen between him and Mark Ingram.

1116
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: We don't know. Like New Orleans has been one of

1117
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: the past happiest teams in the last several years, even

1118
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: as Breeze gets up there in age, we don't know

1119
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: if they're gonna switch and suddenly start handing off more

1120
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: and going to even more of a power running scheme.

1121
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: So I wish I had more information for you, but

1122
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't. Drives me crazy. Um, you are lukewarm response

1123
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: despite it being so passionate on Adrian Peterson. I think

1124
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: is a little bit. Uh is a little bit rare

1125
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: in fantasy because a lot of managers are like, no,

1126
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: absolutely hard pass on ap in New Orleans. And then

1127
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: there are certain guys. You know, Evan Silvera comes to mind.

1128
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: He's cautiously optimistic. I mean he's going about a P

1129
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: four the four point oh eight. He's going at the

1130
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: eighth pick in the fourth round on average, and twelve

1131
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: team drafts, he's going in the fourth round in twelve teamers. Yes, no,

1132
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: I I'd pass on that Ingram is going two rounds later.

1133
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: That's a hard pass for me. I keep coming back

1134
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: to the fact that you're going to have to reach

1135
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: for running backs because people are panicked right now because

1136
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: nobody knows what to expect, and so people are people

1137
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: are I think are opting for the safety of familiar names,

1138
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: which is you know how you get Marshawn Lynch right

1139
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: now in the second round of twelve teamers. That's how

1140
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: you get Adrian Peterson in the fourth round of twelve teamers,

1141
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: because there's going in the seventh round, there's there's so

1142
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty at the position. People are literally

1143
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: just reaching for somebody they think can give them something.

1144
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: So like at some point like you can't look I

1145
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: just don't think you can look it in RBS ADP

1146
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: and be like you girls, I don't want it. That's

1147
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: the price, now, that's the price. Like when you see

1148
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: a bud light for twelve bucks, you're like, I'm anyway, okay.

1149
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, like Peterson is in some sort

1150
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: of committee here, like Kamara is gonna catch some passes,

1151
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: Like they're still paying Ingram unless he's a surprise training

1152
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: camp cut. They're not going to just feed Peterson two carries.

1153
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: So like if you're taking somebody in a clear committee,

1154
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: like I just said, I mean even Frank Or who's

1155
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: not in a committee, is going in the seventh round,

1156
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Danny Woodheads going in the seventh round, Jonathan Stewart's going

1157
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: in the eighth round, Matt Forte, Terence West, Thomas Rawls

1158
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: going in the ninth round, like Jeremy Hill in the tenth.

1159
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Why would you sink a fourth round pick into that guy,

1160
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: even if he is all world amazing player of the past.

1161
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson? Like who knows what's gonna happen this year?

1162
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Like that's just not smart drafting when you could get

1163
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: everything that's very likely equitable three to six to seven

1164
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: rounds later. Jamaal Charles is in the exact same situation,

1165
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: is he not? And he's going in the eleventh and

1166
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: Peterson's going in the fourth. That's like, I understand your

1167
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: point hands about reaching for running backs at times, but like,

1168
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: my god, is that a steep price to pay for

1169
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: a guy in an obvious committee that we don't know

1170
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: the first sure split up and again it's the it's

1171
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: a completely different offense then he's used to running, you

1172
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So I don't know, man, just

1173
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: oh god, I'll pass on that. By the way, Frank

1174
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Gore thirty four years old, Drew Brees thirty eight, Philip

1175
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Rivers thirty five, the great Tom Brady, he's gonna be

1176
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old. Yeah, he is thirty eight years old.

1177
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is an old thirty five, thirty five. He

1178
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: has taken some monster hits over the last few years.

1179
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: But Tom Brady thirty nine years old. Just just speaking

1180
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: of Rivers. To bring it back full circle from Cardale,

1181
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Will Brinson of CBS, who had my

1182
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: favorite tweet on the matter last night that the Charges

1183
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: just signed a backup quarterback who has fewer uh NFL

1184
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: attempted passes, then Philip Rivers has children. Well done. If

1185
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: you don't follow Will Prinson on Twitter, takes that he's

1186
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: great for news and analysis. Now he's good and his jokes, yeah,

1187
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: I love all right, let's close out with around daily

1188
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: depths depth. By the way, I'll be remiss and not

1189
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: at least saying hello to the Facebook line people. I

1190
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: know there have been some audio issues today, but Billy Mitchell,

1191
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: we welcome you in. Uh, Corey Lemon, we welcome me in.

1192
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: Who asked, well, we'll answer this one question. How about that?

1193
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: David Johnson or Lev Bell at the top of your draft.

1194
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: Non PPR, Who do you guys got to me? It's

1195
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: a coin flip. I don't know. That's why he's asking. Yeah,

1196
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: does anyone Does anyone have a strong opinion either way? No,

1197
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: not really, But I'm a d I think I currently

1198
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: have Bells my number one. I would go, yeah, I'm

1199
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: David Johnson. When it kind I know you probably three

1200
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: to three to two. Okay, there you go, majority love Bell,

1201
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: there you goom Alright, let's talk about daily taps. We'll

1202
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: go around the horn. Alex Gilhar give me. Uh. First off,

1203
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier. Daily deps to the US men's

1204
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: national team for Gold being coming Gold Cup champions. Uh.

1205
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: Last night they beat Jamaica two to one. Uh. Solid

1206
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: performance overall and it was good to have to come

1207
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: from behind on that one though. No, they were out

1208
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: in front, the Jamaica tied it and they scored a

1209
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: late goal. Totist of victory h Jordan Morris Josie Altador

1210
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: both had great shots for the wind. So it was

1211
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: good to see the team get that w and get

1212
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: a little momentum leading into the World Cup next year.

1213
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Second daily depp is to the man in North Carolina

1214
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: who robbed a bank for one dollar to get arrested

1215
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: so he could go to jail and get healthcare and

1216
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: a roof over his head. Oh my goodness, right, it

1217
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: is the craziest story. It's on NPR. Uh. He was

1218
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: out of work and he had a couple of medical problems,

1219
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: so he went into the bank, handed the teller a

1220
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: note that said, this is a bank robbery, please only

1221
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: give me one dollar, and then he waited for the police,

1222
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: and uh, in his explaining why, he said he's hoping

1223
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: for a three year sentence. He'd then be able to

1224
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: collect Social Security and uh handle his medical issues that

1225
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: he's got to he's hoping for a three year sentence. Yes,

1226
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: holy hell. So like that's just it's a crazy story

1227
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: that like that's a loophole in the American system right now,

1228
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: but that it has to be that somebody's like, holy crap,

1229
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't have health care or anything. I should rob

1230
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: a bank to go to jail to get the treatment

1231
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: and stuff that I need. So it's an interesting it's

1232
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: an interesting story. Like shout out to that guy for

1233
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: being Uh he's he's an older gentleman's fifty nine, like

1234
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: being creative, but like a new breaking bats but it's yeah,

1235
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: he had a growth on his chest and two ruptured discs,

1236
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: but he's out of work and has no insurance, so's

1237
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: he's going to jail to get taken care of. Interesting.

1238
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: All right, what do you got franchise? Yeah? I got

1239
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: two daily DAPs today. First, I'm gonna daily dapsu the

1240
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Hime video music video for I Want You Back You

1241
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: know Him, the their three Sisters trio. It's It's like

1242
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: time him. The music video, though, is super simple. It's

1243
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: the three girls walking down an abandoned Ventura boulevart. It's

1244
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: one single camera shot the whole way and it's just

1245
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: them walking and doing really dorky dance moves. But I

1246
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: couldn't look away. I just couldn't look away. And the

1247
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 1: song is really good too. Uh. And I'm also gonna

1248
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: adapt this feature on Spotify called behind the Lyrics. I

1249
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have Spotify on your phones.

1250
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: I do not, but if it's available on Android and iPhone,

1251
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: now to um, you pull up a song and you're playing.

1252
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: If it's like a more popular mainstream song, they have

1253
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: this thing called behind the lyrics, and it comes up

1254
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: as you're looking at your phone, and it gives you

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Speaker 1: some of the lyrics as you're listening to the song,

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Speaker 1: and then it gives you tidbits about the meaning behind

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Speaker 1: the song or what's going on with the with the artist,

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Speaker 1: or what inspired them to write this album or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And it's really informative and you can learn a lot

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Speaker 1: of awesome tidbits about your favorite artists. So next time

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Speaker 1: you're listening to a song on your phone on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: look a little closer. You'll see the thing come up

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Speaker 1: and you might learn something. MG my guy Marcus Grant

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Speaker 1: a couple of daily DApps. One uh June four a

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Speaker 1: who passed away this morning, I believe who. You probably

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Speaker 1: don't know her name or her face, but you know

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Speaker 1: her voice if you watched any Looney Tunes, because any

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Speaker 1: non mel blank voice was probably her. A ton of

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Speaker 1: cartoon voices. She was Natasha from The Bowlwinkle and Rocky Show. Um.

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Speaker 1: Just go through her IMDb page and you'll see all

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Speaker 1: sorts of stuff that you probably grew up with and remember,

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Speaker 1: uh from your childhood. So she was just a couple

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Speaker 1: of months away from turning one hundred uh damn and

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Speaker 1: passed away. Also daily apps to my sister because her

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Speaker 1: birthday is on Saturday. Not that she's not that she's

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Speaker 1: going to hear this, but happy birthday to you and uh,

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Speaker 1: your gift is in the mail. We will talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Love you great. The great Adam Rank hit me. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Shout out your depths whatever we're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not a daily shout out. Daily shout outs to hey,

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Speaker 1: I know that you love strength of schedule stuff. Mike

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: Clay put out a strength the schedule based on actual

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: rosters and not on the way the team's finished last year.

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01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: So if you want to check that out. He tweeted

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Speaker 1: it out this morning, which is Thursday morning. The Cowboys

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: have the toughest schedule according to his opponents, according to

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Speaker 1: their opponents, and based on their roster construction. Um, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens we were talking about earlier in the show coming seventh,

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Speaker 1: seventh easiest, seventh easiest, and the Bengals have the easiest.

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Speaker 1: So apparently those two games against the Browns and the

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Steelers d and everything like that probably helps out. So

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Speaker 1: that was some nice work. I still, again, the NFL

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01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: is so volatile. Still take that kind of stuff with

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Speaker 1: a greenis up or whatever. Shout out to Norm McDonald

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: his Uh, he's got a I don't know how you

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: it's not really a podcast, but I guess that is

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01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: because it's on YouTube. It's a YouTube live stream that

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: he does. H. He had an interview with David Letterman.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get through all of it,

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: but it's amazing Norm and David together again for the

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: first time on YouTube. Uh. It's great stuff. And Dave's

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: beard is just in its glory, just his retirement beard.

1303
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: His retirement beard is pretty strong. And speaking of comedians

1304
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: who are on retirement, John Stewart announced this week that

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: he will have a stand up special coming up very soon,

1306
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: which is uh, which is great news. I've always enjoyed

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: his stand up, but I really became a fan of

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: his number one. I used to work at the Irvine

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: Improv uh with their staff, and I really loved his

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01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: stand up because it was hilarious. He was also part

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: of an animated series called Doctor Kats and if you

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01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: have the means to go out and search this out,

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: I think you can find some of the clips on

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01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: YouTube as well. Uh. It's a little different. It's not

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: necessarily going to be for everybody. And the great h

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: John Benjamin is the voice of Dr Katz's son, so

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: that's also very good. So you hear Sterling Archer as

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: a young man, uh messing with his dad. Who's the

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: psychon it's Dr Katz is another It really is uh

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01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: worth your worth your while going and seeking out um.

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01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit through at the top

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: of the show where you were talking about some of

1323
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: the veterans and any time you say a player's name

1324
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: during this time of year, you're always a little bit

1325
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: worried that is somebody is he injured? Like, what's going on?

1326
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Marshall hy what happened? You know,

1327
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: you have that kind of reaction. Yesterday on Twitter or

1328
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Wednesday on Twitter, Rick Flair was trending and oh god,

1329
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: I know yeah this No, no, it was good news. No,

1330
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: it's good news because his thirty for thirty is coming out.

1331
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: That is gonna be amazing. That's coming out of November.

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: I can only I can only imagine how good it

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: will be because really we we didn't see the best

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Speaker 1: parts of Rick Flair's career because first of all, he's

1335
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: way older than all of us. Um he was in

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: a regional type of thing, the n w A, which

1337
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: led into w z W was I didn't have a

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: lot of exposure to it, you kind of. I would

1339
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: get the wrestling mags because I always had bad allergies

1340
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: as a kid, and where we played Little League baseball

1341
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: was at the bottom of the riverbed, in the San

1342
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: Ana riverbed out there in Corona, California, So I would

1343
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: get like some nasty sinus infection, and my mom would

1344
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: go out and buy like all these mad magazines and

1345
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: Pro Wrestling Illustrated and all that stuff for me to read,

1346
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: because heaven forbid I do actual school work. We're not

1347
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: doing school work. Um So, so that's how I knew

1348
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: who Rick Flair was. And then he showed up in

1349
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: the w W E and like, oh my god, um so,

1350
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: this will be interesting to see a lot of his

1351
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: early career stuff and hopefully go in andto a deep dive.

1352
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: And of course that's crazy because he's two millennials. He's

1353
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: he's almost just become a meme guy. Yeah, you know

1354
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's the guys they and by the way,

1355
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: people stop trying to appropriate that Mark Gubazon, who is

1356
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: the Angels color commentator. For the last two years, at

1357
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: least two years, we have been using Rick Flair memes.

1358
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: It has been our thing. It's on Twitter. I have

1359
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: a fair enough of a following to be like, Okay,

1360
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: you might have seen it once, don't start ripping it

1361
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: like the Astros are doing it now. Like Astros like stuff.

1362
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: I know that it's it's fun for you to be

1363
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: relevant for a change our stuff. There's no need for that.

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be the first time, you know, so inappropriately. Yeah,

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01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm fine, Yeah, I get it. It

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: was subtle. Yeah. Uh. He's also a sixteen time world champion.

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: And I'm scared because John Cena now has sixteen world

1368
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: championship and he came out on Tuesday night and he

1369
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: went after Gender Mahal and You're like, well, here it goes.

1370
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: But thankfully Daniel Brian had the wherewithal they did the

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01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: same thing. He said, dude, you just don't get to

1372
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: come out here and demand a title shot. You gotta

1373
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: face Naka Mora. Now, the rest of Mark and me,

1374
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: who loved Nakamura from Japan, is hoping that Knockamora just

1375
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: nurves him and kicks his ass into retirement to the

1376
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: Today Show. Whatever he's gonna go do that, that's that's good.

1377
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna beat Knockama. So I think that they on

1378
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: the way to him getting that seventeenth title. They're like,

1379
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: how can we piss off the smarts as much as possible.

1380
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: I know, we'll have them beat Knockama. We'll have them

1381
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: beat aj Styles. Well, we'll have him go to New

1382
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: Japan and beat Cody Rhodes, go to Ring of Honor,

1383
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: beat the Young Bucks. We got a full on pro

1384
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: wrestling rant going on. Well, I think people they tune

1385
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: in for the pro wrestling at the very end. Listen,

1386
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: if they're listening an hour twenty into this, they're not

1387
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna mind right you got You're waiting for the wrestling

1388
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: takes because they're upset. I didn't talk about it. I

1389
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: didn't do a Battleground preview. So can I can I say, Oh,

1390
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: Sarry Mucci, sorry, Gucci the new guy, Scar Mucci? Can

1391
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: you do the in We talked about this recently of

1392
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: people following you on Twitter that won't I won't allow

1393
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 1: you to talk s about him? Did he get you

1394
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: guys to follows follows literally everybody he follows. He's got

1395
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: a hundred but yeah, but it's like, no, I'm still

1396
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm not following for that one because I look because

1397
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: so many famous You're like whatever, like are they are?

1398
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: They following a hundred and ten thousand people? They're like, okay, James,

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: can I slip one more in before you go? I

1400
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: just saw this come across Twitter. Do you guys see

1401
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: this thing about Adrian Beltrey getting ejected for the Best? Yes,

1402
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: he moved. The umpire asked him to stand in the

1403
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: on deck circle because he was not, so he literally

1404
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: picked his whole career based He stood a little off

1405
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: of it because he's gotten hit with fall balls on

1406
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: the on deck circles, so he stands a little off

1407
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: of it in a less high volume area to get hit.

1408
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: And the dude was like, you need to stand on

1409
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: the mat. So not even like in a dicksh movie.

1410
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: He goes over and pulls the mat to where he is.

1411
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: It gets taught. That's amazing. By the way, two people

1412
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: we've just talked about in the last five minutes have

1413
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: sat shotgun in my car, Adrian Beltrey and Norm McDonald.

1414
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: Cool name drops bro I always want to clean this

1415
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: up and pick up those names. I'm sorry, I'm just

1416
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: telling the story. Beltree hit a home run last night

1417
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: and they lost ten to twenty two, so I guess

1418
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: he was upset for a reason. Okay, all right, there

1419
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: you go. Can I go now? Is that? Would that be? Okay?

1420
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: As we close up, you do not want the story

1421
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: of I don't at all. No, I don't. We don't

1422
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: save it for next time. Let me tell you so

1423
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: here so I will daily death. Hold on. It's a

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: music video, a couple of music videos. Five minutes, that's

1425
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: all I name. The song is called No No Better.

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: Travis Scott, Camila Cabello and Quevo, who is just killing

1427
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: u the rap world right now, the hip hop world.

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01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: The video for Major Laser No No Better. It just

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: came out, I think last week, but man it is.

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: It's a cool video. Man I like it. I won't

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: give it away, just go watch it. I ran across

1432
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: this other video too. It's just so random, but it's

1433
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: a it's a group of three Chinese guys from China,

1434
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: but they've got like this whole dirty South trap music

1435
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: sound going, and it's crazy. It's it's a crazy, crazy sound.

1436
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: You would never expect it at all, but it's a

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01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: it's a full on like no for reals. They're from

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01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: China rap group and it's legit. Uh, and so I

1439
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I had a lot of fun with it.

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: It's called They're They're called Higher Brothers and their song

1441
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Higher Brothers featuring Keith Ape we Chat. It's ah. The

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: video for for for that song is it's very interesting.

1443
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: It's shot vertical, so like the whole thing is like

1444
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: done on their phone, you know what I'm saying. So anyways,

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01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's I thought it was done well. Um,

1446
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: and the song is great. Uh, the video is uh,

1447
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: it can be not safe for work where you work.

1448
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: I guess what about here, I get the referee. I

1449
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: don't think you'll get the referee because on YouTube anyways,

1450
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: it's Higher Brothers featuring Keith Ape. The song is called

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: we Chat anyway. Uh. That is it for me? That

1452
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: is it for the show. Uh. Subscribe to the podcast,

1453
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: rate the podcast, review the podcast, and of course go

1454
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Speaker 1: to NFL dot com slash Draft Kid for all your

1455
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: draft kids. Let me know if you want to. Norm

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Speaker 1: McDonald's I do not for the ways Kid for Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: kell Harm at Francisco vit Jim. She's like, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Grant Adam Bike, I'm James go. But if you run

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Speaker 1: it here outory Facebook, Frank, I will say though, for

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Speaker 1: you disparaging the digital jukeboxes, they have opened us up

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Speaker 1: to a whole new world of a lot of them.

1462
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: You can just do. Buy your phone so you control

1463
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: and entire your bar like you're when you're leaving, you

1464
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: just go like, here's twelve dollars worth of Bieber, deal

1465
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, Aaron Aaron Aaron Na was talking about

1466
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: that the other to night. That's something two I am

1467
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: all three for the music he was playing, so he

1468
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: started playing a bunch of George Michael. Yeah, like you can.

1469
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: It's it makes it so easy to troll the bar

1470
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: or like get into juke box because you can like

1471
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: pay to move your songs. Oh exactly, yeah, you can pay.

1472
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: That's what he was doing. So the I pay or whatever. Well,

1473
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: even back with digital stuff, you could do a lot

1474
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: of I'm leaving the bar and I'm gonna play three

1475
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: verses a free bird because that's a good that's good

1476
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: twenty minutes as well. Yeah, that's a great song. So

1477
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: nobody's really that man, That's true. Currently not the greatest

1478
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: song of all time for our pole, though, per our pole,

1479
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: you have a poll out, we have a very biased pole.

1480
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't participate in it. I I said it was

1481
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: akin to voting is the earth flat or not? H Well,

1482
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: what people who are only flat earthers would be incentivized

1483
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: to go vote for something like that? James? The poll

1484
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: is debate with Adam Rank. Is Freebird the greatest song

1485
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: of all time? Yes? No, Stairway to Heaven is. But

1486
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 1: here's my thing is it's Stairway to Heaven. Yeah, Stairway,

1487
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: No stay to Heaven is winning like this is this

1488
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: was a thing. It's like but because I was saying,

1489
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: what is the number two songs of all time? Because

1490
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: everybody universally agrees Freebird number one, I would nobody disagrees

1491
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: with that. It's it's hard to disagree with that. Yeah,

1492
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: it is just just accepted, like yeah, okay, okay,