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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast

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Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental health podcast.

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Speaker 1: And you know it is Veteran's Day Week, Salutes a

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Speaker 1: Service Week, And with that, I wanted to bring in

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Speaker 1: one of my brothers from m v P Emerging Vets

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Speaker 1: and Players Beautiful foundation that we take former combat vets

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Speaker 1: and we merge them together with former pro athletes. First

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Speaker 1: a football players and fighters, but now it's all sorts

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Speaker 1: of pro athletes to give them a new team again

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Speaker 1: when the uniform comes off. And look, there's so many

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Speaker 1: of my brothers and sisters spend vp A could add on,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted this particular person coming on because I

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Speaker 1: know he's about to go through a little rough stretch

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Speaker 1: coming up here. I wanted to make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: there for him as much as he's there for us.

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Speaker 1: But I also wanted the world to meet this man.

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Speaker 1: And here this man, because he's just so damned different.

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Speaker 1: I would say different is good. Different least to success

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Speaker 1: this cat, he's really different. His name is Doc Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna let Doc explain who he has.

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Speaker 1: But real quick, So, Doc, how many people did you

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Speaker 1: save in Iraq? Over sixty? Okay? Doc? How many surgeries

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Speaker 1: have you had? Nine? Okay? Doc? How many Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball teams did you try out for after you got

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Speaker 1: out and had an amputation? Four? Four? Okay? So again, Docs,

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Speaker 1: a little different. So let's go back first, explain who

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Speaker 1: you are, because what I don't like to do with

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Speaker 1: people in the military is trying to explain who they are,

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Speaker 1: the rank and all that stuff. I want you to

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Speaker 1: explain to everybody who you are. Okay. So I'm Dr.

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Speaker 1: Jacobs was a Navy Corman. I joined when I was eighteen,

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Speaker 1: right out of high school. I played high school sports,

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Speaker 1: uh one year football, baseball, I played multiple years, ran track,

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Speaker 1: cross country, all that stuff. So I could have gone

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Speaker 1: to college right away and you know, did that thing.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to go serve my country and and

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Speaker 1: do that. The cold be kind of at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of Operation Iraqi Freedom. That's when I joined two thousand four. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I went in as a Navy corpman because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to save lives and I knew I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: on the front line. So that's what I did eighteen

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Speaker 1: uh turned nineteen in Iraq, and I had over uh

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Speaker 1: with a platoon of Marines and plus all the locals

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Speaker 1: that we encountered every day as well. So um, I

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Speaker 1: did that. I was six and a half months in

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Speaker 1: on a seven months tour when I got hit by

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Speaker 1: a roadside bomb. It wasn't my first time I got hit,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that. Yeah, yeah, there's multiple, um,

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Speaker 1: but that's the first like catastrophic injury that I encountered

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Speaker 1: for me personally, with my injuries, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: just throw this away. So Doc gets hit by a

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Speaker 1: roadside bomb, yep. Because by the way, Doc tends to

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Speaker 1: tell his story like, you know, yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: me and my friend we went down to the park

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Speaker 1: and we had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. So

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Speaker 1: we we have to stop Doc and remind them, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the ship you talk about is different, bro, It's not

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Speaker 1: like things were normally used here. So I'll probably stop

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Speaker 1: you like eight times because it's not fucking normal. So

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Speaker 1: let's go. So you get to paint a picture of

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Speaker 1: what what happens on this day okay, So I was

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Speaker 1: there was not two foremen on the rosters, so I

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Speaker 1: there was two of us and which is per protocol.

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Speaker 1: And I was driving a Humby and we were training

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Speaker 1: and one of the other Humbies got hit nobody severely injured,

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Speaker 1: maintain squad integrity, and then I just hopped in whatever

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Speaker 1: gun truck. But while we were waiting for UM the

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Speaker 1: The machine gunner that was sitting next to me, which

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Speaker 1: And it's a roll the dice anyways, So Humby flips

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Speaker 1: over on its side, he's ejected out. Humby lands next

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Speaker 1: to go to work too. So and I know, I say,

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Speaker 1: like I need to go to work, like I'm nine

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Speaker 1: to five down the treet right like, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just just gotta go to work. Guys, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I do that I have. My right leg was split open.

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Speaker 1: They said it looked like an overcooked hot dog. Um,

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Speaker 1: bleeding out there. So I put turning kits on, sent

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Speaker 1: him down and my turn to get on yourself. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel it, by the way, Um, I wasn't able

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Speaker 1: then I started getting shot at by sniper. So my

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Speaker 1: sitting there yelling at the sniper, beating my chest like

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Speaker 1: I'm the whole you know, just come get me, motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: So um, They're like you need to talking to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so when you what I get? I get this because

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Speaker 1: I've never been shot before. It Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 1: didn't end up getting shot. I was just being shot at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So um but but but you decided to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, because I mean I could have easily

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Speaker 1: you should have done, right? Yeah? But what the normal

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Speaker 1: So apparently I found out later that that actually bought

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Speaker 1: bought him time to get the smoke grenades and concealed cover.

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Speaker 1: So he popped the smoke and that allowed marines to

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Speaker 1: But then I have my marines dragged me into this

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Speaker 1: and I start working on him and his he had

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Speaker 1: traveling up his leg. His leg was so mangled, traveling

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Speaker 1: all up his side and just in a lot of paint.

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Speaker 1: So I get ten milligrams and morphine. I hit him

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Speaker 1: in his other leg with it. Um, so that way

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Speaker 1: And mind you, he was screaming in pain, so there

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Speaker 1: was no contramunications. So I know some people would be like,

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Speaker 1: well how did you know? So so um, that allowed

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of time too. This is the

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Speaker 1: fun part here to try and get another tourniquet out,

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Speaker 1: which I carried in my pocket right here. Um, And

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Speaker 1: it was one I made in field med and so

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Speaker 1: I I was actually trying to get to the pot

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Speaker 1: get the pocket open, but my fingers were mangled, and

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Speaker 1: but that was different. So I grabbed and I pulled

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Speaker 1: so again in the NFL, we kind of go crazy

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Speaker 1: that well, Ronnie Lott a piece of finger off. You

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Speaker 1: so I could get a tourniquet, which I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: treat for you, Jack in your audience. I don't even

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Speaker 1: So these are the boots, but this is the say,

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Speaker 1: is the actual tourniquet right here? No way, the actual tourniquet,

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Speaker 1: so it wouldn't ow a grenade pin and a curvatow

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Speaker 1: and these are the boots. These are the boots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you can see like whereas all mangled right there.

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Speaker 1: And then I'll show you another little treat here, Jay,

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Speaker 1: this is the actual sock that I was wearing. Really

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Speaker 1: still blood soaked. Oh yeah, okay, Well I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to this. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the symbolism of that for you, but but I want

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Speaker 1: to get back to the mangled fingers. Pulling your fingers off, Yeah, okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what cloes to your brain to go? I'm gonna pull

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Speaker 1: my fingers off. B Do you feel that? Um? I

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Speaker 1: because of the adrenaline and uh, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of just the mindset of just getting back into my marines,

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Speaker 1: taking care of my marines. So I think all of

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Speaker 1: mindset of a warrior and so, um, so I think

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Speaker 1: it freed up dead weight if you will, and allowed

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Speaker 1: so much damage, Like there's so much that can go wrong,

426
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: at least with a prosthetic. I could just swap it out.

427
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: I break a prosthetic. I literally can just swap it out.

428
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: I have some here in the house, Like I can

429
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: just loosen up a couple of screws. I mean, I

430
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: could have a couple of screws loose, you know, listen

431
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: them up, swap him out, and then um, you know,

432
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: then I'm on my way. So hey, how are you

433
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: doing between the ears with this one? And be what

434
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: could I do as your brother to help you for me?

435
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: This one? This one hit a little rough because the

436
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: ankle surgeries, It's like, okay, cool over, another another day,

437
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: another day for old Doc j Raight. But for this one.

438
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: It's a lot of the like the gray matter you know,

439
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: starts talking and it's a yeah, and I talk about right. Yeah.

440
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: So the roommates in the head start talking and they

441
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: start saying things like, you know, hey, how much more

442
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: can we give? How much more do we have to give?

443
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: How many more body parts do we have left? And

444
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: so those thoughts start creeping in, which it's hard to

445
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: get out of that mindset when when those things start

446
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: creeping in, and then I start prolonged like thinking like

447
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: long distance future, like okay, well, how is this going

448
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: to affect my my contracting stuff? Like I'm gonna be

449
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: going to possible like desolate islands in the Pacific, Like

450
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 1: how is this going to work as a double AMPT

451
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: but the trauma Experience medic I need to be there,

452
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: So it's like how is this going to impact me?

453
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Or going to Europe like Eastern Europe where they don't

454
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: have like wheelchair ramps or you know, shower benches in

455
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: their bathrooms a d a hotel room. So it's like

456
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: so I started thinking about this stuff like you know,

457
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: how am I going to rent a car? You know?

458
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Or like I get but I gotta figure what you've

459
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: already done with all the surgeries and things that have

460
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: been you pulled off your body or dropped off your body,

461
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: that you'll figure out a way how to adapt with this. Also,

462
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: just who you are, yea better than the rest of us. Yeah,

463
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing that pulls me out of

464
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: that mindset. That's what I need you to keep thinking about. Yeah,

465
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Yeah. And the fact that I have a

466
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: good close circle like m v P, my family, my

467
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: my my military family, my my wife, my kids, everybody

468
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: that you know is there for me to help me

469
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: through those times and even to get me to those

470
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: um those spots where I need to adapt and move on.

471
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's really really great to have that. Well,

472
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: I asked you too, what can I do as your

473
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: brother going up here? Honestly, just keeping me, keeping me

474
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: in check really, and just the mindset is the biggest thing,

475
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: because I know you know you and I talk a

476
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: lot about the mindset. Is if you speak negative things,

477
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: negative things will follow. And so even if you think like, Okay,

478
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: well this surgery is gonna fail me, that certainly, like

479
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: the possibility is. But if I have the mindset of

480
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm mentally right now. I'm already in recovery mode. I

481
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: want the prosthetic already, like I'm ready. And I told

482
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: Chris Long and Ate Boyer, I said, I'm going to

483
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: climb out Kilimanjar again. I know you will. Yeah, I said,

484
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna climb the mountain and I'm gonna

485
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: take a ship on top of the mountain. Nothing against

486
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: some other nature, but you know that's yeah. So here

487
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: you've had, you're going in your nine youth surgery, and

488
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: you know you've been in some dark places between the years,

489
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: but you've also What I loved about you when I

490
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: first met you is how positive you are? Yeah, how

491
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: and why how are you able to get yourself to

492
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: be in the blue despite all the trauma you've gone through.

493
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Well a lot of the dark years with the dark

494
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: in between the ears? Is uh, those days happen? Um.

495
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: I remember. The toughest thing for me was so I

496
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: went from six and a half months of combat three

497
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: combat patrols a day. I was averaging and as I

498
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: have over two combat patrols then six and a half

499
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: month period, so that averages out I think about two

500
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: three patrols a day, and so when you're in a

501
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: city like Ramadi at the time. So I was in

502
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: Ramadi from two two six, and so our battalion report

503
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: said that seventy percent of the time, so seven out

504
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: of ten times we're out in the city were engaging

505
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: with the insurgents. So you know, you go from that

506
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to a quiet hospital bed where I'm battling a whole

507
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: another battle. But I have family and doctors and nurses

508
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: and Corman everybody all around me all the time, and

509
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: USO folks coming in, which wonderful stuff. I loved it.

510
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: But I didn't have any decompression time. I didn't have

511
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: any downtime because it was surgery, surgery, surgery, surgery, surgery, surgery, surgery,

512
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and I had thirty two surgeries and a three month

513
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: went out. Yeah, I mean, imagine like having ten surgeries

514
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: a month, like that's that's insane. So you're going through

515
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: that and then when oh yeah, ye oh yeah, and

516
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: so it's I went from that too out here in

517
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: the barracks by myself, and so I had all of

518
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: that decompression time and all of the so I basically

519
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: went about a whole year without being able to decompress

520
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: in combat, combat, combat, surgery, surgery, surgery, to just quiet space,

521
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: and then not having anybody there for me, not having

522
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: anyone checking in on me other than like the morning

523
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: or afternoon formation whatever it was, Like that was it,

524
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: and so it all of those like dark thoughts started

525
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: creeping in the why me, Like why is my buddy dead?

526
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Why am I not dead? Like if the humpy would

527
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: have been going a mild power uster, the detonator would

528
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: have been a second later, Like you know, all those

529
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: thoughts creep in. And so I've had a lot of

530
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: dark days. But at the end of the day, I

531
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: have to realize that I'm still alive for a reason.

532
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: And you know, my my reason, my kids, my wife

533
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: and her kids, and you know, like every everything honoring

534
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: my fallen my fallen brothers, my fellow wounded brothers, persons

535
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: with disabilities, like there's there's so much more to life,

536
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: and so just trying to see the bigger picture of

537
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: beyond me. So and I'm I'm a man of faith.

538
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah me too, Yeah, which is my choice. Yeah, and

539
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: it makes me feel I'm not alone. I got God

540
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: with me and yeah, you know I'm not alone, and

541
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: say with you and like yeah. I always tell our

542
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: vets and people like you've had a lot of shitty

543
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: things happen, don't try and figure life out. Yeah, it'll

544
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: drive you crazy. Oh absolutely, absolutely so so. But I

545
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: asked you again, what gets you in the blue? Yeah?

546
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: When you not just to stick? Because I asked to

547
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: will get you in the blue? And you told me

548
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: you had dark days? Oh yeah, yeah in the blue?

549
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: Because you're you are so positive dude. I love being

550
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: around you. Yeah. I just love life, I really do

551
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: because I know how quick life can go, and my

552
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: kids taking them to San Diego Goals game, doing stuff

553
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: like that, Disney World, Disney Crew, whatever, you know, whatever

554
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I can do to spend time with my kids. Did

555
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: you train yourself to love life? I had to kind

556
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: of re recalibrate myself. Yeah how long? How long ago?

557
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Was that long? After all this? It was made less

558
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: than a year after my injury. So yeah, I was

559
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: still because I held on to my leg for eight months,

560
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: my left legs, so I was in a lot of

561
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: pain on a lot of medications. But that kind of

562
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: the pain, after the pain and the medications disappeared, then

563
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I kind of recalibrated and that's when I started like

564
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: handcycling marathons, I skied for the first time and always

565
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: an amput. So um I kind of like started to

566
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: relearn how to love life and and take dark times

567
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and turn them into brighter days. So there's a lot

568
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: of therapy during that time. UM I didn't do therapy

569
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: for a while. UM it actually took a Vietnam veteran

570
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: friend of mine. We were doing some contracting. We were

571
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: doing am I a recovery World War two battlefield recoveries

572
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: from the Battle of Tarawa and I we were sitting

573
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: across from each other at this table at dinner one

574
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: time and he said, Doc, when we get back to

575
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: the States, he said, if you don't go into the

576
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: v A and get help, he said, I'm going to

577
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: handwalk your ass in there. And I thank him for

578
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: that because he said, he said, I see a lot

579
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: of me and you. And he said when I came

580
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: back from Vietnam, because he was he was in the

581
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: Battle of case On which seventy seven consecutive days of combat,

582
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: Like yeah, he and you know it was it was

583
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: really really nice for for someone to care and and

584
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: see that, which is which is why you know, all

585
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: I ask of you and our brothers and sisters out

586
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: there is just check in on me. Just sure if

587
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: I go radio silent for more than three or four

588
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: days at a time and say, hey, how are you?

589
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Because you know how it is we when we get

590
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: in our dark times, we don't ask for help. We

591
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: don't and we get reusive. Where you help me? And

592
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you this when you

593
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: came to my house. Yeah, not too long ago, but

594
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: those out there, I don't know. When I wrote my

595
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: book Unbreakable, I stopped all my treatment, all my mental

596
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: health treatment for a good eight months or so because

597
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be in the grade to be

598
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: able to write about it, to help people. And I

599
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm still right from it. It fucked

600
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: me up. Stop a guy like me with my with

601
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: my depression anxiety can't stop doing treatment much less for

602
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: that long and knock, but just check up on me.

603
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: You knew I was struggling, and you constantly, We're just

604
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: sending me messages Hey, brother, thinking, Hey, I love you,

605
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Hey just this, Hey, I got this coming up, Hey

606
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: I got that coming up. And dude, I can't tell

607
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: you how much it meant to me. And help me,

608
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: and I'm and I went through some more stuff this

609
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: past year, and every time you check up on me

610
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: being of service to me, I want you to how

611
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: much I appreciate it. I appreciate you because I know,

612
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I know you do the same for me. Yeah, and

613
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: you know what I do. Yeah, oh yeah, I know,

614
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know. And that's why I know you're

615
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: already aware that I have dark days coming head with

616
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: the surgery. So also for you too, I wanted to

617
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: switch your narrative because you went through an angry period

618
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: and I want you to start being proud of everything. Right,

619
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: and so we went through so Doc will come to

620
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: my house and I would try and change that his

621
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: own narrative of how he viewed his experiences and to

622
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: start talking about it in this way of like, look,

623
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm bragging about you. I'm like, holy sh it. I'm

624
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: sure everybody at home right now was listening. Oh my god,

625
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: this is what a hero is. This is what a

626
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: hero sounds like, this is what a hero looks like.

627
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: And you weren't able to view yourself in that way.

628
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: And the work you and I did together, I'm proud

629
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: of it because all of a sudden you started putting

630
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: up your medals on on your wall. A sudden you

631
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: started looking at things differently. I am proud of our

632
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: journey together. I appreciate it and because of you. Remember

633
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: on the fifteen year anniversary, my Purple Heart Day, my

634
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: live day, I finally framed my purpore finally, fifteen years

635
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: I have never hung that up on my wall. Why not? What?

636
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: What changed it? What about what we're talking about change

637
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: that for you? Well, just being proud of myself, being

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00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: proud of my scars and who I am changed it.

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Speaker 1: And now it's right by the front door so when

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Speaker 1: that into like a a wall with American flag and

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Speaker 1: my medals and and all of that and all of

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Speaker 1: my my accolades and everything because people want to see that,

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Speaker 1: people want to know about it. So but it took

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Speaker 1: to realize that. So I want everybody else out there

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Speaker 1: to realize it's okay to be proud of your scars.

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Speaker 1: Just go okay to be proud of your accomplishments. It's

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Speaker 1: a much better alternative than to keep yourself in a

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Speaker 1: dark period in a dark place. Yeah right, yeah, but again,

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Speaker 1: there's so much more to life, there really is. Well

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Speaker 1: do I love your brother, man, And look, I want

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Speaker 1: to say Happy Veterans Day to you, and I want

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Speaker 1: all our veterans out there listening like this the weekend,

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Speaker 1: like we're all celebrating you, so all our combat events,

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Speaker 1: I want them and all our veterans no matter what, Man,

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Speaker 1: I want you to think this weekend, as we are

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Speaker 1: all celebrating you, what you could celebrate about yourself and

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Speaker 1: love yourself up this weekend. You gonna promise me you're

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Speaker 1: gonna love yourself up this weekend, all right, Doc Jacobs, Man,

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Speaker 1: I love you, my brother, Thank you so much. Again.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about a hero, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the biggest heart in the world. You also

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Speaker 1: want to talk about somebody who saved me as well.

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Speaker 1: He's right there, Doc, I love you body