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Speaker 2: We will sue you.

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Speaker 1: Forms the corner.

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Speaker 3: Welcome the hang out, Peter. It's time for the bi

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Speaker 3: weekly mail bag. It's the Just Baseball Show, Wednesday, May eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: I'm arm Late and he's Peter Apple, and we have

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Speaker 3: some awesome questions. I feel like the questions keep getting

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Speaker 3: better and better every time we're doing one of these.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the questions we're getting keep a level up,

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Speaker 3: and we've got at least nine questions that we're going

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Speaker 3: to fly through in this episode.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love too.

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Speaker 4: It used to be at the beginning of some of

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Speaker 4: the questions that we all that we ask on Twitter

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Speaker 4: and on Instagram at just bb Media for Twitter and

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Speaker 4: at Just Baseball Show for the Instagram, they've gotten deeper.

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Speaker 4: They're deeper cuts, they're more in the weeds. I remember

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Speaker 4: we used to get who are your top five players?

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Speaker 4: Or who do you think the best team in the

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Speaker 4: American League is? Now it's what do you think about

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Speaker 4: Joey Bart's swing mechanics? I love it and I'm so

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Speaker 4: excited to talk with you today about these nine questions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I like want a little bit of everything and I

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Speaker 3: feel like our listeners, you all listening, have done a

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Speaker 3: really awesome job of just giving us a little bit

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Speaker 3: of everything I would love to talk about, like what

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Speaker 3: Peter's run grade is, which we've already established.

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Speaker 1: As a twenty maybe lower.

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Speaker 4: You have flat feet, That's always my problem I have.

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Speaker 4: I have insuls now, like even walking. I'm a twenty walker,

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Speaker 3: Ho Like we were talking about Pooh Holst running on

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Speaker 3: heavy foot waddle?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you're being pooles in a race. You

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Speaker 4: can't get my legs moving. I think I'd lose. You

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Speaker 4: think you'd lose to pools. I'm gonna put myself at

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Speaker 4: the bottom so that anything I do above that is

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Speaker 4: honestly I get to brag about it. Setting expectations low.

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Speaker 4: That's how you got to do it. I'm faster than

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Speaker 4: Albert Pooh Hools. I don't even know if I am.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing though, it's not that would so true

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Speaker 3: to you, like if you get to race. You know,

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Speaker 3: Brian SCALABRAINI did something because he was so sick of

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Speaker 3: everybody saying that they were better than him. He did

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Speaker 3: the scallenge where you could challenge him to a one

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Speaker 3: on one and people would submit videos in and challenge

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Speaker 3: him to a one on one, and of course he

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Speaker 3: worked everybody, even d one. I think a Syracuse former

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Speaker 3: basketball Syracuse player got worked. Obviously he's an NBA player.

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Speaker 3: But on the speed thing, I feel like, if we

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Speaker 3: had the average civilian race Albert pool Holes, what do

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Speaker 3: you think I am I being hyperbolic to say, like

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Speaker 3: the average twenty to twenty five year old male, Let's say,

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Speaker 3: are they beating Albert Poohles in a race?

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Speaker 1: I think you're being hyperbolic.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't truly understand how slow is I just

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Speaker 4: I cannot. It doesn't fit in my brain that the

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Speaker 4: they have multiple major leaguers probably on that roster one day,

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Speaker 4: How would they fare against the Cincinnati Rights?

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Speaker 1: Could they get them.

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Speaker 4: On any given day, they would lose by ten runs

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Speaker 4: Beca's just how it is. So there's levels to this,

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Speaker 1: That's fair. That is fair, that is fair. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I always thought that question was so nuts in any sport,

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Speaker 3: So we'll start with the Mariners question, which I know

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Speaker 3: we're leading it off with a question from Alex who's

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Speaker 3: been phenomenal this year, Peter, I mean, and there's no

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Speaker 3: We always knew the glove was going to be there

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Speaker 3: offensively has been really impressive. Although you and I both

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Speaker 3: You look at just the simple swing setup. Nothing looks

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Speaker 4: I just always think he's been talented. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: three twenty. He's not going to hit three forty seven

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Speaker 4: So do I see JP Crawford hitting three to eleven?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Do I see you know, four home runs right now?

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Speaker 4: Do I see him hitting twenty twenty five? Probably not?

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Speaker 3: And I think that's that's the larger point is I

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Speaker 3: don't think either of us have seen any you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a guy that already kind of figured himself

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Speaker 3: out last year with yes, with his best offensive season,

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Speaker 3: know what, that's even better than last year. And what

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Speaker 3: I've seen is there's a little bit more of that

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Speaker 3: and you could tell he was cheating for it. Which

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Speaker 3: fangrafts page, but watching that, you know, I was like, WHOA, Okay,

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Speaker 3: he's starting to learn, like I can pick my spots

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Speaker 3: we've seen four home runs already in thirty four games.

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Speaker 4: To your point, it's not that he made a swing adjustment.

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Speaker 4: He's making mental adjustments pitch to pitch, and those are

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Speaker 4: improving day over day, and he's just getting better. He's

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Speaker 4: like an above average shortstup. Like if I asked you are,

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Speaker 4: I would slightly rather have JP Crawford, but it is close.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where he is.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that you have an above average shortstop

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Speaker 4: saying that about JP Crawford, So that goes to show

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Speaker 4: the developments that.

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Speaker 1: He's made one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And the last thing I'll say, I mean to ask

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Speaker 3: you the question because I agree i'd take JP. Would

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Speaker 3: you take JP for his contract, which is fifty one

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's a solid contract. I think Topoto

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Speaker 4: love that deal. So a million, Yeah, come on for

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Speaker 4: a shortstop and above average short So I'm in twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna get and I think he's gonna keep

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Speaker 3: next guy though on the same team now, Jared celnick

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Speaker 3: uh It has not been pretty for him. He's shown flashes,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I was convinced that Kellenick's worst days

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Speaker 3: the final month of the season last year, where he

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Speaker 3: mashed baseballs, and that was on a big stage. He

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Speaker 3: was you know, really making some noise down the stretch,

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Speaker 3: and he was owning it. He was wearing it, he

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Speaker 3: this is the Jared Keelnick that we were hearing about

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Speaker 3: for so long. But then he comes out this yere

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Speaker 3: Peter sitting one forty nineteen two ninety one. He was

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Speaker 3: sent down now to Triple A Tacoma. What is your

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Speaker 4: And also, this is the Seattle Mariners team that's competitive.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. Yeah, who cares? Who cares?

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Speaker 3: And that's the big thing too, is that's got to

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the path that he's had to take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you. Look, it does stink.

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Speaker 3: Why do you believe that many rebuilding teams stick with

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Speaker 4: My thoughts first, just eight on or I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: we got to break down everyone situation because they're not

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Speaker 4: the same.

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Speaker 3: Another example, real quick before I moved to the next question,

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Speaker 3: is like Clark Schmidt. I mean, Clark Smith's been really

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Speaker 3: great out of the bullpen and really in a role

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Speaker 3: for the big league team. I love Clark Schmidt being

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Speaker 3: around the big league team and big league veterans and arms.

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Speaker 3: That guy I don't I don't really want to see

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Speaker 3: him mix starts in Triple A anymore.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what he can do at the

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Speaker 1: big league level.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a ton of value to the

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Speaker 3: experience that he's getting in the people that he's able

448
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Speaker 3: to work with right now, between the bullpen and the

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Speaker 3: rotation and the staff.

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Speaker 4: And before we move on, Luis Heel, a guy who

451
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Speaker 4: hasn't played a ton above Triple A, he should probably

452
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Speaker 4: get sent down. I know he can be electric, but

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Speaker 4: he's a guy that I don't want run at the

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Speaker 4: big leagues. I want him to improve on his command

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Speaker 4: in the minor leagues before he comes up. Clerk Schmidt

456
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Speaker 4: has proved it enough. Guy like Davy Garcia has not

457
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Speaker 4: proved it yet, at least in my eyes. So that's

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Speaker 4: where I'm at. Everyone has their own situation, which.

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Speaker 3: Which is the best way to answer it? And I

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Speaker 3: love I love that example as well. Another question on

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Speaker 3: a struggling hitter, and I think he just put a ball,

462
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Speaker 3: a good swing on the ball, as we were watching

463
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Speaker 3: the game and he was I think it was off

464
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Speaker 3: of Edwin Diaz, right, But Tyler O'Neill in Saint Louis

465
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Speaker 3: has not been swinging it great. And the question comes

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Speaker 3: from Mac m andrew on Twitter. It's either that or

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Speaker 3: it's macmandrew. But I'm gonna guess it's Mac m andrew

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, and it's what is going on with Tyler

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Speaker 3: O'Neill in Saint Louis. Big year last year, now looks

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Speaker 3: like he can't find the swing. Any thoughts? Uh So, Peter,

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Speaker 3: I looked.

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Speaker 1: At, you know, a lot of the numbers. He looks,

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Speaker 1: He looks, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious to get your thoughts on this because

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm necessarily panicking on Tyler O'Neill yet.

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Speaker 4: Can I say something, Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's what he's just not on time. No, that's what

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Speaker 4: it seems like to me. Nothing is wrong with the

479
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Speaker 4: bad ball profile. I watched a ton of Cardinals game

480
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Speaker 4: because I just fricking love this team and I wish

481
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Speaker 4: they would trade one of their prospects and go for it,

482
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Speaker 4: because I really think that this could be a World

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Speaker 4: Series team. He's just not on time, that's all it is.

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Speaker 4: And I hate to be so simple and not get

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Speaker 4: into it further, but I'm just like, I watch him swing,

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Speaker 4: looks good.

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Speaker 1: He's still tops and Max exsit below.

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Speaker 4: He's still fast as shit, he's still a great glove

489
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Speaker 4: out there, He's got a great arm, he sitting fast,

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Speaker 4: just not on time right now. He's just not on

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Speaker 4: time right now. That's all it is. He'll be on

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Speaker 4: time soon, and he's gonna have an incredible July or

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Speaker 4: June or August where he hits ten on runs in

494
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Speaker 4: a month, and you'll be like, oh, there's Tyler O'Neal,

495
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Speaker 4: kind of similar to the way Kyle Tucker started. Just

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Speaker 4: not on time. It's okay, an awful walkout happens. It's

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Speaker 4: been a little bit longer than we might have expected,

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Speaker 4: especially from a guy like Tyler O'Neill. But remember this

499
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Speaker 4: is not a Tyler O'Neil who's been amazing year after

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Speaker 4: year after year after year. He really broke up, broke

501
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Speaker 4: on last year, hitter. Yeah, Pitchers made their adjustments. He'll

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Speaker 4: make his not on time right now, He's gonna be

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Speaker 4: totally fine. Still elite, Still love him, I think you

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Speaker 4: hit the nail on that head. And what's crazy, he's

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Speaker 4: actually walking more, striking out less. So it's not like

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Speaker 4: we're watching this dude's strikeout.

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Speaker 1: Approach is totally fine. Approach is totally fine to me.

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Speaker 3: It seems like you said the timing slightly off. You

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Speaker 3: foul off a couple pitches that you should have hit.

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Speaker 3: Gets he in a two strike count, ends up in

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Speaker 3: more walks and strikeouts, and I think he's just finding

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Speaker 3: himself more in deep counts. What's interesting is you look

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Speaker 3: at last year two forty one hitter through March and

514
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Speaker 3: April and then really got things going in May, was

515
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Speaker 3: good in June, hit a wall in July, was great

516
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Speaker 3: in August, and was great in September.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy that's super toolsy, super and there's a

519
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Speaker 3: lot of moving parts to the swing, and when he's off,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be off.

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Speaker 1: When he's on, he's going to be on. What I

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Speaker 1: like is that he's off.

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Speaker 3: Right now and he's walking more, so you know at

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Speaker 3: least he's still getting on base. He's still giving yourself

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Speaker 3: and you know he's going to give you value on defense.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't lose any sleep over Tyler O'Neill if

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Speaker 3: I'm a Cardinals fan either, any final thoughts on him

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Speaker 3: before we go to a guy that I would be

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Speaker 3: losing sleep on.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 4: The reason Tyler O'Neill is not a top five overall

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Speaker 4: player because if you look at straight talent, he's right there.

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Speaker 4: But it's always going to be just the consistency thing

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Speaker 4: you said. There's a lot of things happening in his swing.

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Speaker 4: He's going to go through loles, maybe even deeper roles

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Speaker 4: than other type of guys. I compare his sort of approach,

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Speaker 4: not really to Trin Carlos Stanton, but kind of in

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Speaker 4: that way. So he's going to go through those lolls

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Speaker 4: and he's going to strike out eighteen times at four games.

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Speaker 4: He'd be like, oh my gosh, what's going on. But

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Speaker 4: then he's going to get four home runs the next

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Speaker 4: four games. You'll be like, Wow, what a player. That's

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Speaker 4: who Tyler O'Neil is. Still awesome, still.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, And when you look back at the end of

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Speaker 3: the season, the strikeout rates palatable, the metrics across the

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Speaker 3: board look fantastic, and he has a good year, and

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Speaker 3: so that's just the way it is. And I think

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Speaker 3: this Cardinals lineup is built to be able to accommodate

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Speaker 3: the ups and downs of a Tyler O'Neal because Forden

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Speaker 3: Goldie's consistent, Aeronato's looking consistent. A is how Carlson's heating up,

551
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Speaker 3: Bader's heating up. Like this team, Edmund's been really consistent.

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Speaker 3: This is a really good team and I'm not worried

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Speaker 3: about them at all. I would like to see them

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Speaker 3: go get that arm a team that could be going

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Speaker 3: to get somebody behind the dish, and I think they

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Speaker 3: will make a move at some point soon.

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Speaker 1: It's about Joey Bart.

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Speaker 3: And that's the next question we got here from San

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Speaker 3: Francisco sports fan zero zero, and it is should the

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Speaker 3: Giants be worried about the slow start from Joey Bart?

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Speaker 3: Should they look into the trade market for catchers who

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Speaker 3: might slash will be moved at the deadline? And before

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Speaker 3: I kick it to you, Peter, I'm gonna just lead

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Speaker 3: with this. One of the funny things I did earlier

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Speaker 3: this year was because I really ripped apart Joey Bart.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty harsh on him. I ranked him sixth

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Speaker 3: in the Giant's top prospects right up that we did,

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Speaker 3: which it puts him well outside of the top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: I think he was on everybody else's top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: I put him six.

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Speaker 1: I watched the video.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see how that swing was going to work,

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Speaker 3: especially against Fielo.

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Speaker 1: I think he hit one to eleven against Felo.

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Speaker 3: But the really funny thing that happened was I sent

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Speaker 3: in our company chat he was facing Sandy al Contra,

577
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Speaker 3: who averages the highest fastball VLO and Baseball were up there,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, if he hits a home run

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Speaker 3: off of If Joey Bart hits a home run off

580
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Speaker 3: of Sandy al Contra, I'm gonna vend everybody four hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars next pitch he hits a home run. So theoretically

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Speaker 3: I do owe our entire staff four hundred dollars bonuses

583
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Speaker 3: at some point.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully we do so well with just Baseball that

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Speaker 1: I can finally fulfill on that joking.

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Speaker 3: Heavy emphasis on joke comment I ate there, but it's

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Speaker 3: pretty much been tough sletting for Joey Bart since that

588
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Speaker 3: home run.

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Speaker 1: He hit a home run off of Albert Poohols as well.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, he's striking out about forty something

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Speaker 3: percent of the time. That's always what I thought the

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Speaker 3: concern was going to be with. He is defending well,

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Speaker 3: which I think is part of the reason why the

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Speaker 3: Giants are not, you know, panicking and you know, just

595
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Speaker 3: testing whoever they can throw in there. And he's walking

596
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Speaker 3: a little bit too. But this is a guy that's

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Speaker 3: just not going to be able to hit enough to

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Speaker 3: be an everyday catcher in my opinion, Is his bat

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Speaker 3: that much different than Bobby Delbeck. No, it's honestly, it's

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Speaker 3: honestly not that much different. I would say there's a

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Speaker 3: little bit more swing and this, which is crazy to say.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're dealing with here. We're dealing with the

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Speaker 4: guy who, when he connects, can go four to eighty

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Speaker 4: dead center.

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Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: And as a catcher, we're if you put Bobby Dalbeck's bat,

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Speaker 4: and let's say forget Joey Bart's batt you just put

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Speaker 4: Bobby Delbicks bat in Joey Bart's body and then have

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Speaker 4: his defensive acumen.

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Speaker 1: We'll take that.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's gonna be some swinging miss. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Mike Zunino's getting run and he's the worst. So it's

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Speaker 4: not that like you don't think he's a starting catcher.

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Speaker 4: I do think he's a starting catcher, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think he's a very good one. I think he's going

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Speaker 4: to be a guy's consistently above thirty percent of the

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Speaker 4: strikeout rate, probably thirty five. He's never gonna hit for

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Speaker 4: a high average, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: he's not going to be that far off from what

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Speaker 4: Gary Sanchez is and Gary Sanchez gets run, Yeah, that's no.

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Speaker 4: I'm just looking at the rest of the catchers being like,

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Speaker 4: how could he not like, yeah, so many horrible ones.

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Speaker 3: I guess to that point, right, it is because the

624
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Speaker 3: catching position is so bad. As long as he's picking

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Speaker 3: it and he's pictures like like throwing to him, then

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Speaker 3: I guess theoretically he is a starter, but I don't

627
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Speaker 3: think his offense is going to get much better than this.

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Speaker 3: Like he's a guy that is predetermining his swings. You

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Speaker 3: can tell like he is swinging before he's deciding if

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Speaker 3: he's gonna swing.

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Speaker 4: He watched him live, bro, we saw it like in

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Speaker 4: person in area, like multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I was just it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Getting blown up by night even three, like it's even close,

635
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Speaker 4: not even close.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it looks.

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Speaker 3: Like it's a His swing is so slow, he's super stiff,

638
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: he has he doesn't have much mobility, and by the

639
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Speaker 3: time he gets launched and going, it just takes so

640
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Speaker 3: long that he needs to cheat. And when you cheat

641
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Speaker 3: as a result, like if you need and by cheating,

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Speaker 3: I mean like starting your swing earlier, you have less

643
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Speaker 3: time to pick up the pitch and so you're gonna

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Speaker 3: chase more. And that's why we're seeing Bart do exactly that.

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Speaker 3: So to you to your point here, though, then do

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Speaker 3: they need to go get another catcher?

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Speaker 4: See no, because they do have Patrick Bailey as well,

648
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Speaker 4: who's far far farr He's farther away than Joey Bart

649
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Speaker 4: is and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Bailey is a mid season twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Guys, that's probably what we have ETAOI is that that's

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Speaker 3: what I would expect.

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Speaker 1: I think you just give it to Joey bart this year.

654
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Speaker 4: I don't think you go out and get a catcher,

655
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Speaker 4: because how much better of a catcher are you going

656
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: to get? And then you're basically saying to Joey Bart.

657
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Speaker 4: If your rookie year, we're done, Yeah, which you gotta

658
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: let him go. This year you just lost Buster Posey.

659
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: This is the year where you let him go. I

660
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Speaker 4: don't think that they should.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're the Giants are gonna be good

662
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Speaker 1: kind of regardless.

663
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Speaker 4: If he's good, because he's gonna he's gonna pick it

664
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Speaker 4: for them defensively and he might get that home run

665
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Speaker 4: that they need.

666
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Speaker 1: But the thing is, Joey Bart is also a reverse

667
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Speaker 1: splitz guy.

668
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Speaker 4: He's got a for eighty seven ops against lefties, seven

669
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Speaker 4: to sixty ops against righties, which he's facing righties more so.

670
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Speaker 4: At least that's good do I guess?

671
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Speaker 1: I guess just shelter him from the lefties a sense

672
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Speaker 1: as a righty.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I wouldn't go get another catcher, and

674
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Speaker 4: I would let him have as much run this year

675
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Speaker 4: as possible, while also saying I don't think he's that

676
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: great of a bat, but we've always thought that. I

677
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: don't think the Giants have assumed, oh, this is a

678
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: great bat and they're sold. I don't think so either.

679
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna try to make it out to

680
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: be that, you know, he's he's getting better and he'll

681
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Speaker 3: be better than one eighty five three thirty eight three.

682
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Speaker 1: It'll probably be better than that.

683
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Speaker 3: But I think he's two ten max. And here's my

684
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: one devil's advocate. Would you and we saw the Giants

685
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Speaker 3: do it last year with the rental situation. What if

686
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: they went out and got and expiring Wilson contraras for

687
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Speaker 3: the rest of this season?

688
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Speaker 1: Do the Cubs want to do that? Because the Cubs

689
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Speaker 1: are not living in our world?

690
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't know with not living in our world, but

691
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Speaker 3: if they're not, if they find out that they don't

692
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Speaker 3: think that they can extend.

693
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Speaker 1: Him, then it makes sense.

694
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Speaker 4: But at a lot of ball clubs are going to

695
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: be looking for that Wilson intars. So would the Giants

696
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Speaker 4: be willing to overpay to not have barton the lineup?

697
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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so either. I

698
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: don't think so either.

699
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Speaker 3: So I am worried about the slow start, but he

700
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Speaker 3: is still valuable enough and good enough, and I think

701
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Speaker 3: that's where so they probably shouldn't go to the trade market.

702
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Speaker 1: Is that our final answer? One ninety four expected bat

703
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Speaker 1: tog everage, So it will oh.

704
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Speaker 3: Better ahead, better day's ahead for Joey Bart, So what's

705
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Speaker 3: your final answer on So you say no trade market.

706
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Speaker 4: I say, unless you can get Wilson intreres on a

707
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: good deal.

708
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Speaker 1: But I don't make the move for Sean Murphy right now. No,

709
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Speaker 1: I don't.

710
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Speaker 4: If i'm them, you look across the landscape. Where are

711
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: the catchers that are going to be better than giving

712
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: your one of your top prospects. I'm in quotes for

713
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: all the people on YouTube the run that he deserves

714
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: at least as that prospect. I'm going to side with

715
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: let him get run. No trade market. Joey Bart is

716
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: the catcher for this year. How good will that production be?

717
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: We will certainly.

718
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: See that we will. But again, been doing a pretty

719
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: good job behind the dish, which is the more important

720
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Speaker 3: to give this problems with that, And Kurt Casally has

721
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: been swinging.

722
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: It really well. That's what I'm saying, Just keep those dudes.

723
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like Casally hit the lefties, He's been swinging

724
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: it pretty well. So I think that platoon should be

725
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: good enough for them, especially with what the offense is

726
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: capable of when everybody's healthy and Longoria is back. Another

727
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: question that kind of goes off of that same point,

728
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: in terms of trade targets, who do you think will

729
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: be the big trade deadline target that teams go after?

730
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: That comes from s yt Ingersol on Instagram. Well, we've

731
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: gotten a question from cig or so before. Good question,

732
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: because you know it's very open ended. It really boils

733
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: down to you know, let me guess, Peter, when you

734
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: read this question.

735
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: You went to the standings.

736
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Speaker 3: You looked at the teams that were sucking, because that's

737
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Speaker 3: what I do every time, and then you think about

738
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Speaker 3: who are the players that could be going from them.

739
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: I want to hear who you have first and then

740
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Speaker 3: I'll see if I feel like there's anybody you might

741
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: be missing.

742
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: But who are some of the big trade targets you're

743
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: looking at?

744
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: So I have the obvious one in Luis Castile. I

745
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: think Luis Castile will be dealt. We've talked about him before,

746
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: the starting pitcher for the Reds. When he's on, he

747
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: is electric and he would be an enormous edition. We

748
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: have the Frankie Montas of the Oakland A's. Clearly the

749
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: A's want to get rid of everybody. He's their best pitcher.

750
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: That makes the most sense in the world. Sean Murphy

751
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: Catcher A's makes all the sense in the world.

752
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: We've talked about all of those guys.

753
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: So I want to go off the beaten path here

754
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: and just drum up some names that could be dealt

755
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: that have been on trade blocks before and are currently

756
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: on teams that most likely will be sellers at the deadline.

757
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: And I start in Baltimore with first of all, their bullpen,

758
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: because they have a bunch of guys who could be

759
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: valuable bullpen additions.

760
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: I could just list through them. Yeah, it does. But

761
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: there's like some guys in there that are good, I know.

762
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna stay in Baltimore and I'm going to

763
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: talk about Cedric Mullens. Could he be a guy that

764
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: is acquired at the deadline. The thing is, I just

765
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: don't know with his contract situation. They already tried, or

766
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: it's not like the Baltimore already tried. I mean, he's

767
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: been on the block, but guys teams went to them

768
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: and said, we'll give you all these top prospects. They

769
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: already said no. So I don't really know. But if

770
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: we're talking who I think the top you know, trade

771
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: deadline target could be. My mind goes to Cedric Mullins.

772
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Of the Oriels.

773
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean, we're seeing what that ballpark is doing to

774
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the players offensively. And Mullen's a guy

775
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: that likes to use the whole field, so left field

776
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: being so deep now is definitely impacting him a little bit.

777
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: But we're already seeing him heat up a little bit.

778
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: I love Mullens, and I think any team is going

779
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: to listen on anybody, So I think that's number one.

780
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: That's candidate number one in terms of it's gonna take

781
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: a steep price. But for the Orioles, I think they've realized, here,

782
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: look what we've got some good pieces. Austin Hayes has

783
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: looked pretty good. A lot of their farm system looks

784
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: pretty good. They might say, hey, if the package is right,

785
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: because they're pitching is still so thin on the starting side,

786
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: right Grayson Rodriguez winning bad, John means now is going

787
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: to be out probably for a lot of next year.

788
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: Bruce Mman has been a nice development, but like they

789
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: need more dudes they do. That's where you trade maybe

790
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: a Ciedric Mullins. And we've talked about teams like the

791
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: Marlins or the Mariners that have this wealth of pitching

792
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: that could go make a deal that the Guardians as well,

793
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: having just a ridiculous amount of pitching. Those are all

794
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: teams that it could make sense. I don't know if

795
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: the Mariners really need to go get another outfielder, but

796
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: more Guardians, Marlins other teams.

797
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: That have that kind of wealth of pitching, it makes sense.

798
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Maybe not as high profile, but a guy that I

799
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: think could get dealt is Ian Happ. Ian Happ has

800
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: been swinging it pretty well this year, and you know,

801
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: I like what he it.

802
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: Brings to the table.

803
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Is a switch hitter with some good speed, with some

804
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: good power, and you know what, like he's got two

805
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: years on the deal, so I'm expecting teams to want that.

806
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: Right.

807
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: You have two more years of control that come with

808
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: him at about six to eight million, depending on what

809
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: the arbitration price is. He's walking as much as he

810
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: ever has. His strikeout rate is the lowest it's ever

811
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: been two eighty two, four oh five, three eighty eight,

812
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: so the power hasn't quite been there, but a one

813
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: thirty one WRC plus. This is a dude that feels

814
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: like he's been around forever, Peter, but he's still just

815
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: twenty seven. Give me a guy, that's switch hitter with

816
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: some power and speed. Although the power hasn't been there

817
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: but two years of control. I think it makes sense

818
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 3: for the Cups to sell high now. This is maximum

819
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: value for him, probably at the deadline.

820
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: This year.

821
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: Ianhabs been swinging it and ianhaps the greatest opening day

822
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: player of all time, literally of all time. It's incredible

823
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: his stats are an opening day How about another guy

824
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: who just deserves our respect.

825
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: The next trade candidate for me is Josh Bell of

826
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals.

827
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, this dude breaks, And I know I say that

828
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: a lot sometimes, but this dude rakes three thirty three.

829
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: He's hitting right now for twenty three OBP four eighty one, slugging.

830
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: Every single time I turn on a freakin' Nationals game,

831
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: whether I bet for or against them, he's hitting. He's

832
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: gonna have a high ground ball rate, but it doesn't

833
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: even matter because he just shoots the balls through those gaps.

834
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 4: He is a fantastic hitter, and at only twenty nine

835
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: years old, he could be a huge addition at the

836
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: deadline for a team looking for a big first baseman

837
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: to put some thump in their lineup. You know, I'm

838
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: even thinking if the Guardians going to run someone like that,

839
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, but the Guardians will they buy or sell?

840
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: They probably not by Josh bell I'm just saying, please, Guardians,

841
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: you could, like please, that would make so much sense.

842
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: I think that's a perfect target for a Guardian team

843
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't like to part with like high end prospects.

844
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 4: They could trade a Maybe Naylor is making his noise

845
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 4: at first base, but I just keep remembering Bobby Bradley

846
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: and like, yes, someone else.

847
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: I think that they could really use a Josh Bellen.

848
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: You look at a team like the Guardians, they have

849
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: eighteen middle infielders and pitchers, and you trade maybe your

850
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: numbers redsucks middle infielder exactly, and go make that move

851
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: and Josh bell look, he's gonna be He's gonna get

852
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: you a little bit more than I think that they

853
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: ever thought the Nationals in terms of prospect return.

854
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: But he's not going to be breaking the bank.

855
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: You know, He's still just a first baseman, and you know,

856
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: teams are just not giving up a ton for it.

857
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: So I like him as a trade target a lot, as.

858
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: Another switch hitter who is striking out the least he

859
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: has in his career, extremely encouraging to see those kinds

860
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: of things, uh, you know, from somebody like him. If

861
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: if the Red Sox keeps sucking, Xander Bogarts could be

862
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: a guy and I know they just said that, you

863
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: know they're they're open, and he's open to re reopening

864
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: the extension conversation. But if the Red Sox are shooting

865
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: him ninety million offers, it's not going to happen. If

866
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: the Red Sox keeps stinking, that could be the number

867
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: one target because they need to cash in instead of

868
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: just losing him in free agency like we saw with

869
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Mookie Batts. Imagine if they didn't trade Mookie and never

870
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: got Verdugo and never got some of the pieces that

871
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: they need, Like, I could see this being a similar

872
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: situation if it's clear that Bogarts and the Red Sox

873
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: are too far apart agreed.

874
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: And another guy who maybe be on there. I just

875
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get traded.

876
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: But Zach Gallon, I mean, if the Diamondbacks ever decided that,

877
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: you know, they want to cash in right now be

878
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: the best time to do so. I mean, you'd get

879
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: a king's ransom for a guy who could be a

880
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: cy young Award winner one day. Probably not, but maybe

881
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: with another team, maybe you could sell that to somebody

882
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: getting enormous prospect call. It's just I don't think it's

883
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 4: actually gonna happen. But I'm saying if the Diamonbacks wanted

884
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: to come away with four top one hundred prospect types,

885
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: Zach Allen's got to do it.

886
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm with you, and you know what, man, Like, they're

887
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: in a weird spot where it's almost do we keep it?

888
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: Keep going?

889
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: They're kind of good?

890
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Are they better than the Padres? Honestly, they're fun. They

891
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: are they are fun. They are fun.

892
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: Dalton bar shows a lot of fun, I would say

893
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: from that team, though David Peraltza's a definite trade candidates

894
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: walk to Christian Walker Gallon could go either way. I

895
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: think someone's gonna knock your socks and but realistically, yeah,

896
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: they've got They've got all.

897
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Really good pieces. Man.

898
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: You can see the Diamondbacks starting to trend in that

899
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: right direction, so they might want to hold on to Gallon.

900
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: But if someone comes to you with a crazy offer,

901
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: I think you got to listen. With some of the

902
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: injury concerns he has, I.

903
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: Don't think he's going to get traded, just another name

904
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: to kind of put.

905
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure they'll get some calls. So exactly,

906
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent. Before we get to

907
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: the final four questions, we have a little bit from

908
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: our friends at Loop and I'm going to go through

909
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: some of the biggest hits of the week.

910
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: But before we do that, you didn't quite crack.

911
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: And for those watching on YouTube, you're holding up your

912
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: your uh, I guess it would almost be like.

913
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: A fan of cards like cars.

914
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you're playing poker and you're fanning yourself with

915
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: with James Wood, which was I think the best poll.

916
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: You used your twenty dollars free credit, Peter, and this

917
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: is like this is really your first dabble in like

918
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 3: a box break.

919
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: How was your experience it?

920
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: It is so much fun. I get on this app

921
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: and they're breaking cards all the time. I get with

922
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: some of my boys were just like, hey, should we

923
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 4: break a pack on Loop? Yes, let's do it right now.

924
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: And what we do?

925
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 4: You just hop on you buy packed and they'll like

926
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: hype you up and stuff and be like hey, and

927
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: then they'll talk about the cards and it's so much fun.

928
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: It's almost like, I pay half just for the experience.

929
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: That's really I don't even need you to send me

930
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: the cards. But the thing is, they do send me

931
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: the cards. They came to me like three days later,

932
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: it might have even been two days later. I was

933
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: driving back from California. They were right there. I did

934
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: it a couple of days. They were on my doorstep

935
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: when I came back. James would like, I spent twenty

936
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: dollars on this pack. Actually spent zero because it's a

937
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: free credit if you lose use our link which is

938
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 4: in the episode description.

939
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: James would. I mean, that's that's nice cards. That's a

940
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: nice card. I mean, that's probably the value of the pack.

941
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: Yes, And if he keeps progressing the way I think

942
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: he is, that's a that's a forty fifty dollars card.

943
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

944
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 4: I just spend twenty dollars on that pack, and then

945
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: I have all these I mean, Chather, yeah, Elie de

946
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: la Cruz paper, Ellie de la Cruz paper, I got

947
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: this Auto Lopez at and we just have all of

948
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: these other cards. It's just if they sent me the

949
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: James would and that's it. I made money on the pack.

950
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 4: But then I also got these and I didn't even

951
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: spend anything because I use my fre credit.

952
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, And the experience was fun.

953
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: So and that's that's the cool part is so like,

954
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: for example, by the time people are listening to this,

955
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 3: we would have already done it today later tonight, Peter,

956
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm going on the wild Card stream and I'm facetiming

957
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: in and they're gonna put me on the phone face

958
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: timing in and I'm gonna be answering some prospect questions

959
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: while we rip some product, and while people you know

960
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: are are buying product as well. I'll just be facetiming

961
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: there answering prospect questions. We're gonna do more streams like that.

962
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna do a prospect stream at the end of

963
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: the month. So definitely, even if even if you're not

964
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: too keen on you know, spending money on cards. Right now,

965
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: download the app, use the twenty dollars free credit, and

966
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: then you'll have the app to join our streams because

967
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna actually be doing some occasional prospect streams. Are

968
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: going to be doing a prospect Q and a on

969
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: the loop app at the end of May. Then I'm

970
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: excited to do with some of the Pensacola BUA, Who's

971
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: Guys and some other minor league top prospects. So even

972
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: to just download it for that is another good reason

973
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: to do it. So between being able to pull the

974
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: cards and just the live streams that we're doing, it's

975
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: a no brainer. But I wanted to get into real

976
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: quick some of the big hits before we move on

977
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: to the final four questions. This new product that came out,

978
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: And again that's the really cool thing is every seller

979
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: has a ton of different products. I'm one hundred percent

980
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: all in on Bowman, but Top's Tribute release just came out.

981
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: Someone pulled a one of one wandered Tops Rookie Tribute card,

982
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 3: which of course no idea what it's worth. Probably worth

983
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: a ton a lot. Someone pulled a Juan Soto Tops

984
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: Tribute autograph out of one ten, I'd assume that's a

985
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: lot white valuable. A Derek Jeter autograph Tops Tribute out

986
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: of twenty five.

987
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: It is such a sick card. It It has one

988
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: picture of.

989
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Him rounding third with his omet falling off, and then

990
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: the autograph is over him at shortstop not having range.

991
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: So cool, and then stay.

992
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: Negative undred and six two defends yeah, he signed that.

993
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Actually it was in his signature.

994
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: And then my favorite because probably two of the coolest

995
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: players ever. It's a pamphlet booklet auto from the Tops Tribute.

996
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: One half of the booklet is Mike Trout autograph. The

997
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: other half of the booklet is Vlad Senior autograph, both

998
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: in their angels jerseys.

999
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: How sad fire. That is my favorite as well.

1000
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: So even if you don't want to pull prospect stuff,

1001
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: like if you're like I don't want an eighteen year

1002
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: old Elie de la Cruz, I get it even though

1003
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: it's super fun and I do too, and I hold

1004
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: on to it and watch it go up. Uh, you

1005
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: could go after this, you know, Tops Tribute stuff, which

1006
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: you can get anything from like Hall of Famers to

1007
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: current players. Someone pulled a Wander, someone pulled a Derek Jeter.

1008
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: That's what's really cool about the different product that each

1009
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 3: seller has. Reminder, just check out that link in our

1010
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: description so they know we sent you, or type it

1011
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: in yourr U r L. It's loop dot cards slash

1012
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: Just Baseball to check that out and would really appreciate

1013
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: it if you guys could download that app. So Peter

1014
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: four more questions and very pitcher heavy with the first two,

1015
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: actually three, three of the four are pitcher heavy. We're

1016
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: going to start with Trek Scooble, who is someone I've

1017
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: really enjoyed talking about since you know, he was a

1018
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: prospect coming up with the Tigers. Wild story is a

1019
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: guy that pitched at Seattle University and really was had

1020
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 3: major command issues and has gotten better and better each year.

1021
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was quite big league ready last year.

1022
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: That's why I made a bet with Kolby Olsen that

1023
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 3: he would finish with an ERA over four point something,

1024
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: and he did. But he was still really good last

1025
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: year and he has taken his game to the next

1026
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: level this year. The question from C six RSN is

1027
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: the Tigers pitching as a whole husban met, But why

1028
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: is Trek Scooble so good right now? Peter, what has

1029
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 3: really impressed you about Trek Scuble thus far?

1030
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: Before I talk about what's impressed me with Schooble, I

1031
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: want you to talk about that again, because you didn't

1032
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: think that he was big league ready when he was

1033
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 4: twenty four, and now he's being elite when he's twenty five.

1034
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: Jared Kalnick is twenty two.

1035
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: If he was not that good in his first couple starts,

1036
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 4: but then he's good. When he's twenty four to twenty five,

1037
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking way differently, giving him way more respect.

1038
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: But he's twenty two.

1039
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: Arrek Scooble is now twenty five, and we're so excited

1040
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: to see what we've seen from the guy was at

1041
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: two to five oo era, thirty nine innings, forty five

1042
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: strikeouts and there.

1043
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: Not only have I bet.

1044
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: On a couple of games with Tarrek Scooble, so I've

1045
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 4: seen him firsthand, but also I just genuinely like watching

1046
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: him pitch because right now he's attacking the strike zone.

1047
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: He's locating the fastball well, he's elevating it, but he's

1048
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: also challenging hitters with it, and he doesn't throw it

1049
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: that much those about twenty nine percent of the time,

1050
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: but hitters can't really touch it, and the expected stats

1051
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 4: point to it being even better than what it has

1052
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: produced so far. The slider is disgusting. He sometimes throws

1053
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: it up on the zone, but he mostly keeps it

1054
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: down and a way to write headed hitters. The sinker

1055
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: he's spotting all over. He's got a change up he's

1056
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: got a curveball. He's thrown all these pitches above eight percent.

1057
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: He's a five pitch guy that varies his speeds and

1058
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 4: he's just tough to time up, especially with a little

1059
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: bit of a funky motion.

1060
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: I really like what I see from this guy one

1061
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: hundred percent. So you hit on some really important points.

1062
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: The reason why I made the bet with Colby, and

1063
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: again it wasn't that I don't didn't like Scooba long term.

1064
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: He was throwing his fastball in the minor leagues seventy

1065
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: percent of the time exactly so because it was so

1066
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: damn good. He's deceptive, he's funky, and it has If

1067
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: you look at the movement profile of the fastball, it

1068
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: fits under riser, which is you know that that desired

1069
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: that's what everybody wants, right, And so he was throwing

1070
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: risers with deception, with a unique arm angle in the

1071
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: mid nineties in the minors and just blowing guys up.

1072
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: So there wasn't much of this emphasis of like needing

1073
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: to throw secondary stuff you get to the big leagues. Yeah,

1074
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: if you locate that fastball up, as we see with

1075
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: Hunter Green, you'll get guys out.

1076
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: But if you miss your spots, you're going to struggle.

1077
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: So two things that stand out to me with scoobl

1078
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: He's added the sinker now too, So instead of just

1079
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: going heavy four seam, now he's throwing, like you said,

1080
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: twenty nine percent four seamer, but then also throwing that

1081
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: sinker twenty one percent of the time, so he doesn't

1082
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: need to strike out everybody. He can fall behind in

1083
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: the count, go to the sinker and get a ground

1084
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: ball and get out of the inning, or you know,

1085
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: really just get himself to keep the pitch count down.

1086
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: And that is so encouraging. The slider is fantastic, But

1087
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: I think the big difference maker Peter is the sinker.

1088
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: Because you mentioned how he's got the walk right to

1089
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: a career low. I think that's because he trusts that

1090
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: he can throw that heavy sinker and get strikes that

1091
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: way and not just have to beat guys with elevated

1092
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 3: heat all the time.

1093
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it, all of his pitches just

1094
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: go all these different directions. You got a fastball on

1095
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: a sinker that has the same spinner at least very

1096
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: similar same arm angle. One's going a little bit up,

1097
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: one's going a little bit down. Then you have the

1098
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: slider breaking up, but then you have a curve ball,

1099
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: then you have a changeup. We talked about redetm or

1100
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: little bit, just the ability to work within multiple speeds.

1101
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: Right now, he's at ninety four on the fastball, eighty

1102
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 4: eight on the slider, eighty three on the change up,

1103
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 4: seventy six and a half on the curveball. It's tough

1104
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: to time up those pitches, especially when you said it yourself,

1105
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: fastball sinker. You aren't sure whether it's going to go

1106
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 4: up or down, so you're worried about that. You're thinking

1107
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: about that in your head. And then he's breaking on sliders,

1108
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: and then if you're timing it up, you're sitting in

1109
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: the ninety eighty eight to ninety three range. That's what

1110
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: you're timed up for. He'll bend seventy six on you.

1111
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 4: It's incredible. He's a really, really good pitcher.

1112
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: So where do you think he sticks or you know,

1113
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: kind of swats in here. I think this is a

1114
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: guy that could be a legit number two. You know,

1115
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: I think he continues to get better. I do think

1116
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a solidified number three. But I see

1117
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: some number two upside here. If the command continues to

1118
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: be as good as it is. I mean, this is

1119
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 3: forty five, forty five strikeouts, eight walks thus far, Peter

1120
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: and I mean, he's matching like an ace, and that's

1121
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: pitching like an ace. But will he be an ace

1122
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: is the question.

1123
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

1124
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: But with the with the pitch assortment that he has,

1125
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: all of the different you know, I never expected him

1126
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: to have this deep of a bag, you know. I

1127
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: always thought he'd be better than he was.

1128
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I didn't. I always thought he'd be fastball slider, and

1129
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: he looks amazing. He's blown away my expectations.

1130
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: I thought this was a good pitcher, thought he was

1131
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: a solid three, and he's developed into this.

1132
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: At worst, he's a good two. At worst, I agree.

1133
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: I agree, And Chris, Chris Fetter, you know, the pitching

1134
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: coach over in Detroit isn't a phenomenal job. And those

1135
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 3: part of the reason why why they promoted Matt Manning

1136
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: early even though he wasn't ready, so that he can

1137
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: get his hands on him before Casey Mais got hurt.

1138
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: We saw mys Max strides and I think Schooble is

1139
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: the most talented of the bunch and we've seen, you

1140
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: know what Fetter's been able to do with schoobl speaking

1141
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 3: of talented starters that you know got to the big leagues,

1142
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: had some success. And again a good pitching coach with

1143
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: the Marlins in Mels Statdamyer Junior, who really helped six

1144
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 3: do Sanchez can't help him stay healthy and unfortunately that's

1145
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: been the deal. He's now throwing from ninety feet, which

1146
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: is this has been a meme in itself, was how

1147
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: many feet six to oh? Throwing from today?

1148
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: Sometimes all just text it would be like a six

1149
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: up throw, Yet like nope, nope.

1150
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: He posted a.

1151
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: Video on his Instagram with him throwing like twenty feet

1152
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, but he's in ninety

1153
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he's been from ninety in like a year.

1154
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: That's great to hear. Shoulder is who's have been a lot.

1155
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: The question comes from Obscure x Reds on Twitter, which

1156
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: is such a funny account. It's just all obscure random reds,

1157
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: but they do a great job of just being fun

1158
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: and engaging on Twitter as well, and obscure x Reds

1159
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 3: asks where is six? So Sanchez and the Marlins starting

1160
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: pitching prospect hierarchy seems to have fallen significantly in a

1161
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: loaded system with starting pitching as someone that's kind of

1162
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: seen it all go as a guy that's wearying the

1163
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: Marlin shirt right now, thank you, thank you found it

1164
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: at the prif shop. The thing with six oh is

1165
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: it's a combination of injury murkiness in terms of what

1166
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: information the team is giving, and then also just a

1167
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: litany of arms, right Like, yeah, it's one thing for

1168
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: six O to just naturally fade because he is not

1169
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: on the field, but also when you got guys like

1170
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: Edward Cabrera shoving when he's healthy. You got guys like

1171
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 3: he'sus Zardo, Max Meyer, you know all these other prospects,

1172
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Juri Perez, Jake Eder when he's healthy. Like, there's so

1173
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: many arms out there. I just don't think people are

1174
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: really losing sleep over six oh at this point, and

1175
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: anything that they can get from him is a bonus.

1176
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Which is crazy to say.

1177
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 4: You haven't named a name that I wouldn't take over him.

1178
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not about Jake Eater.

1179
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: You talked about Max Meyer, you talked about Edward Cabrera,

1180
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 4: you talked about Haysus Zardo, I'm taking all those guys

1181
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: over six. Oh sorry I am. I mean maybe who

1182
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: would I not Eliots or Hernandez. Give me six o

1183
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: over Elias or Hernandez. That's about it. And maybe Elia's

1184
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: Ernane is gonna have a better big leagu career than six.

1185
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: It's not out of the question yet. Which is which

1186
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: is terrifying. It's terrifying the thing where are you at?

1187
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 4: I mean you're the Marlins, Like, where are you placing

1188
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: him in this? Like with you if you have if

1189
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 4: you're the gym of the Marlins and you have a

1190
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: trade partner with another team where they're saying, you know,

1191
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 4: the classic pick four from this group of prospects, and

1192
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: that group of prospects is Edward Jake Eater six Oh,

1193
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: Sanchez and Meyer ad Meyer take six to exactly, Like

1194
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: that's where he is, but he is in that tier.

1195
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: But that's where he is within that tier.

1196
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 3: And I will say this, I was always I always.

1197
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Really like six. Do I love Eater? I'm a big.

1198
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: Eater's phenomenally, you know, he's people. People might be like, oh,

1199
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: but they're both hurt Eater, Tommy John not worried six doh.

1200
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: Third instance of some sort of shoulder issue, this time

1201
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: in actual surgery. So and then they're like, oh, he

1202
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: might not need the procedure. Then he get it's just

1203
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: been such a mess that it's a little weird. The

1204
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: other thing with six though, for me, is is you

1205
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: know you see him a little bit out of shape.

1206
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: He's showed up overweight to spring training. You know, he

1207
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: hasn't taken care of his body the best, you know

1208
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 3: when we've seen him. And then on top of that,

1209
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: when he is healthy, he's really good. We've seen flashes,

1210
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: but he doesn't get the swings and misses you'd expect.

1211
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 3: Peter and I've always thought he was a little bit

1212
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 3: overrated because everyone's like, oh, one oh one with movement,

1213
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 3: Look get brutes, star graderol. He was one oh one

1214
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: with movement and it still is. He's one o two

1215
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: with movement and doesn't get the crazy amount of swings

1216
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: and misses. You know that six oh Sanchos leaver one

1217
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: never once in his mind league career average more than

1218
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: eight point six eight strikeouts per nine.

1219
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: We were talking a couple of year was it a

1220
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, Now it was a long time ago.

1221
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: We were talking to stuff before six do even had

1222
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: these injury concerns? Yes, is he good when healthy? Is

1223
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: he even that great? When healthy? We's gonna be good. Yeah,

1224
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 4: But is he gonna be great when healthy? We both

1225
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: were like, I don't know about great. And then now

1226
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 4: he's dealing with all this. It's certainly not helping his production. No,

1227
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 4: So if his ceiling is good, I rest my case.

1228
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was good was when he was using

1229
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: the four seamer up sinker down, and then using the

1230
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: breaking ball because he was almost always going change up sinker.

1231
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: Everything was down, so he was getting ground balls. But

1232
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: he was really a round ball pitch.

1233
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he never struck out more than twenty four

1234
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: percent of batters twenty five percent of batters, which you

1235
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: know is just not what you would expect from a

1236
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: guy with his stuff. So I would put him below

1237
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 3: all of those other guys right now. But I do

1238
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: think that there's a scenario where you could still be

1239
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: a really solid big league pitcher. But between the health

1240
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: and the lack of swing and miss, I just don't

1241
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: think he's in the conversation.

1242
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: With those other guys at this point.

1243
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: Agreed.

1244
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: Next up is a guy who is pretty much heading

1245
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: in the opposite direction, he's as good as as anybody

1246
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: in the game right now in terms of starting pitching

1247
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 3: Shane McClanahan man Koby Olsen.

1248
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: Again bringing him out.

1249
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: He put out a phenomenal piece on Just Baseball dot

1250
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: Com breaking down why Shane McClanahan is a bona fide

1251
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: ace at this point in this game. And I agree,

1252
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: I think Shane McClanahan is a bona fide ace, and

1253
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: that kind of answers the question already. Where does Shane

1254
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: McClanahan rank among current starters. That's from Berner Underscore Phillips

1255
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: on Twitter. I guess I kind of gave my answer.

1256
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 3: I think he's an ace. I don't think he's an

1257
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: elite ace, but I think I think he's an ace

1258
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: at this point. Where do you stack up on this?

1259
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's great. I don't think

1260
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: he's an ACE, really, I think he's elite. I think

1261
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 4: he's having a great start to the season. I think

1262
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: he's a very very good pitcher. Like I still there's

1263
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: a part of me that still thinks BOS will be better.

1264
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: And maybe that's maybe that's to that point, is just

1265
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: the such belief in Boz. But I've seen mcclenahan's command

1266
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 4: go astray, and when the command goes astray and against

1267
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 4: and his fastball is hittable. I know it's ninety seven,

1268
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: but that's the that's the pitch that opponents are hitting

1269
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 4: the best off this year. I just don't And maybe,

1270
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: for example, what is the qualification of an ace? I

1271
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 4: guess when I'm thinking about our top ten pitchers, I'm.

1272
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: Not No, he's not a shame that he's not in it.

1273
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: I guess, see a top thirty pitcher, Yes, easily, he's

1274
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: Is he tier that means Tier one starting pitcher.

1275
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm looking.

1276
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought maybe we were talking like ace ace,

1277
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 4: like with the top ten or top No, No, think, Yeah,

1278
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 4: it's a very vague.

1279
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: I always think it's funny to when we bring it up,

1280
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, is he an ace? And we end

1281
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 3: up debating more so what is the quality whether he's

1282
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 3: actually an ace? Like, so I guess what the question

1283
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: would be, you know, is he in that Tier one?

1284
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: There's Tier one A and there's Tier one B, and

1285
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: that's it's broad. But in terms of like the Pablo

1286
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: Wilpez Is of the world, Like, is he better than Pablo?

1287
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: Like I think he might be. I would probably, I

1288
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: would take him over Pablo, And Pablo is.

1289
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: A Tier one fringe guy, right, would you take him

1290
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: over Sandy? I don't think I would.

1291
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: No, But I think Sandy's a top fifteen twenty starter exactly.

1292
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: So he's in that thirty fifteen to twenty range. I

1293
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 4: think he's in that. He's like the eighteenth best picture

1294
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 4: in baseball. Let me put him right there, Shane, not

1295
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: a random Shane McLanahan.

1296
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: That's what I think. Yeah, I think I think Sandy's better.

1297
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's anywhere from the eighteen to twenty

1298
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: five range. I think you're you're more than fine putting

1299
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: them there if you look at all of you know,

1300
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: all of the stuff that he's he's been able to

1301
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: really just mix in this year. The curveball has been

1302
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: just dynamite. The change up is what really impresses me. Peter,

1303
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 3: and you have mentioned like that the fastball has gotten hit.

1304
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: But that's what's crazy is it's getting hit at a

1305
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: three ninety five batting average right now. I mean, like really,

1306
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: it's it's gotten hit pretty hard, and he's still shoving

1307
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: so imagine if he finds a way to mask that

1308
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: fastball a bit more to be more effective with the heater.

1309
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the world's his oyster. The world is his oyster.

1310
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: But let's do this, like, let's go through some starter pitchers.

1311
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw them at you, and you tell

1312
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: me who you'd rather have, Like right now.

1313
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair? Yeah, let's do it.

1314
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: Would you rather have him or Alec Manoa? Mania Mania?

1315
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: Would you rather have him or Zach Wheeler?

1316
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

1317
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: I mean, after what Wheeler did last year, you gotta

1318
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: go and again this is like just.

1319
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: For this season, Yeah, this is like right now, who

1320
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: do you want?

1321
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1322
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: Right now?

1323
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the rest of the season. We always gonna

1324
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: turn it around. He's too good. Yeah. Would you rather

1325
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: have him or Freddy? Him? Him? Him?

1326
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take mcleannan over Freddy maybe, but like I'm

1327
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: not sold on that. I'm not super sold on that.

1328
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 4: Would you rather have McClanahan or Logan Web. That's fucking

1329
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: tough because web Web is not gonna do a whole episode.

1330
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: On Logan Web right now.

1331
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go McClanahan with what we're seeing from him

1332
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: right now, McLanahan or Joe Musgrove, musk Grove, musk Grove.

1333
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: So that's I mean Verlander McClanahan, not for Verlanders phenomenal

1334
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: right now.

1335
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: And then you go like Garrett Cole, like you'd rather

1336
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: Garrett Cole? Would you rather Max Free? Oh that's a

1337
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: fun one. There's a lot of really good pictures. That's

1338
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking. It was like, are we putting mcleannon

1339
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 4: up right now? I'm like, like, Kelnick, give the man

1340
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: a second to he's right here. I don't want April

1341
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: seventh to May eighteenth now he's top ten because he

1342
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: hasn't proved that yet.

1343
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: The stuff was always there. I'm not saying that. If

1344
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: we're talking to.

1345
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: Straight stuff profile, he is up there with the greats.

1346
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: But if we're talking about production game seven, I need

1347
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: a dude on the mound. There's fifteen to twenty. I'm

1348
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: taking over him. Yah.

1349
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: But to say, Shane McClanahan I think is a top

1350
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: twenty five starter in the game, that's a huge jump

1351
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: from where he was at, you know, like that is

1352
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: a huge jump. So all that to say, I mean

1353
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: he is really impressing. He is turning himself into one

1354
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: of the more exciting young arms in the game, and

1355
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: again still turn twenty five years old nineteen days ago.

1356
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: It's extremely young in the right organization.

1357
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Continues to get better and turned in his second seven

1358
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: inning outing of the season the other day against the Angels,

1359
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 3: which is the big thing for him, you know, going

1360
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: deeper into ballgames. We've seen him now punch outs at

1361
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: least seven batters in every start except for one, so

1362
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: definitely heading in the right direction. I agree, like, let's

1363
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: see him do it a little a bit longer before

1364
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: we put him in that conversation, but I'll wrap up

1365
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: with one question back on you. Would you be surprised

1366
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: if Shan mcclanahan's a top fifteen starter.

1367
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: By the end of the year.

1368
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't because this stuff is so good, meaning

1369
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: stuff is so me neither so good, mean neither, but

1370
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: just I agree it's May eighteenth.

1371
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: Let's we're not going to put him there yet because again,

1372
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: look look at what Logan Web's done this year in

1373
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: terms of the step backwards, and that was after a

1374
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 3: full season.

1375
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he goes.

1376
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: But right now, top twenty five, wouldn't be surprised to

1377
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: see top fifteen by the end of the year. Final question,

1378
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: and it's one that I love because you know, this

1379
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: is a team that I've just been having a blast

1380
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: with all year long, and it's from multiple people on

1381
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: Instagram in twitch. Do we think the Twins will make

1382
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: the postseason? And if they do, how far can they go?

1383
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: I'll leave that.

1384
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: I think those are two very different answers, so I'll

1385
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: leave it to you and then I'll fill in the

1386
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: blanks there.

1387
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: I've said since the beginning of this season. I don't

1388
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: think the Twins are going to make the playoffs.

1389
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

1390
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 4: I think the White Starts will win the Vision and

1391
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: because of that, the Twins won't have a shot to

1392
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: make the Playoffsky because the Angels are gonna be insane,

1393
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 4: the Blue Jays and the Rays and the Yankees are

1394
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 4: going to be fighting. I don't see the Twins making

1395
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: the playoffs unless they win the division. And I still

1396
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: think that the White Socks are gonna get crazy hot.

1397
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 4: Lanceln's going to return, Eloy is going to return at

1398
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: least at some point this year. The Bats are going

1399
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 4: to get hot. They are just a better team in

1400
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: my opinion, than the Twins. And I still have them

1401
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: winning the division, So that would say that I don't

1402
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: think the Twins do. But that doesn't take anything away

1403
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: from the Twins because they could actually win, you know,

1404
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 4: eighty eight games and not make the playoffs and be

1405
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: a great team, but just they didn't win more games

1406
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: than some of the other teams in the American League.

1407
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's funny because I agree with you one

1408
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: hundred percent. If it was the traditional playoff structure, I'd

1409
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: be like, it's gonna be tough. But now I don't

1410
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: even know how to like conceptualize it with the new

1411
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: playoff structure of like, okay, do they have enough? Like

1412
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: where are they going to line up there? I guess

1413
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: if you just talk out loud here and go through

1414
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: it all, it makes sense that they have to win

1415
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: the division, right. And my concern is this, I actually

1416
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: think the Twins are going to finish really strong, like

1417
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: you said, I do think they're going to win eighty five,

1418
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: eighty six, eighty seven games. What's crazy is even in

1419
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: the expanded postseason, that might not get it done. To

1420
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: your point, what scares me in terms of the Twins

1421
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: not really being the favorite of the division still is

1422
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: that the White Sox have been as bad as it

1423
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: could be really right now, you know, like that we

1424
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: know what they've been doing. Pitching wise, They've been throwing

1425
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: Vince Falaskas out there. They've been a lot of their

1426
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: main guys. Mccott has played six games this year. You

1427
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: talk about the other injuries. Andrew Vaughan has been up

1428
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: and down and has been heard as well, Eloy hurt,

1429
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Lance Lynn out, and Liam Hendricks has been a disaster.

1430
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: And all that considered, this team is still over five

1431
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen and seventeen. So for everything to be

1432
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: going wrong Aj Pollock out too, for everything to be

1433
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: going wrong for the White Sox and the Twins only

1434
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: have a two and a half game lead, that's that's

1435
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: just that's just not it. You know, like if they

1436
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: had a ten they need to be like separating themselves

1437
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: right now. They need to be kicking the White Sox

1438
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: when they're down. You know what it's the equivalent of,

1439
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: to me, Peter is like you know, when you watch

1440
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: a horror movie and the bad guys chasing the person

1441
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: and they turn around, they hit him on the head

1442
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: with a pan and knock him down and the person

1443
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: the bad guy falls down and instead of like finishing

1444
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 3: him so that he can't chase after you.

1445
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: They leave him and keep running.

1446
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: Then the guy gets up and comes after you again,

1447
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 3: Like why didn't you just finish him? Like that's what

1448
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: I look at with the Twins, Like the bad guy

1449
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: is down with the White Sox, but he's gonna get

1450
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: up and he's gonna run him down because they didn't

1451
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: put him up, they didn't put him away, and they can't.

1452
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 4: I think it was a great way to describe it.

1453
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: It's not taking anything away from the Twins. The White

1454
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 4: Socks are playing it their absolute worse and they're still

1455
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: a game over five hundred, just two and a half

1456
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 4: games out of the Twins. White Sox are a better team.

1457
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 4: They've been there before. I like the Twins. Does Joe

1458
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: Ryan continue to have an ar ray and or two?

1459
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: Probably not, But then again, the Twins have had their

1460
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 4: injury issues. You know, Carlos Kray has been on the

1461
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: shelf a little bit. They haven't been completely healthy. But

1462
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 4: you look at the roster from top to bottom. Game one,

1463
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: it's probably Sonny Gray versus Lucas Gilido or Dylan Cees.

1464
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: Then you have Gilido versus like Joe, Ryan or Bundy.

1465
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: It's just it's not the same lethualness. But with that said,

1466
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: they're exciting rookies in Royce Lewis. But even a guy

1467
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: like Miranda came up hasn't hit deck. He's like one

1468
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 4: O four. Yeah, but I mean I still believe that him.

1469
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 4: I just yeah, absolutely started. Yeah the man a second.

1470
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: But it's also May So that's where I'm at with

1471
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: the Twins. So Arn Buckson is playing out of his mind.

1472
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: He's only playing all your games this year. Like that's

1473
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: the target, right, what if he goes down? And I'm

1474
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: cool with that and I hate saying that, but what

1475
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: if he goes down? I mean then it's yeah, it's tough.

1476
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: And and again, like there's a lot of reliance here

1477
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: on youngsters. Royce Lewis is filling a role. If Ursalla

1478
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 3: continues to struggle, then like Lewis's role is gonna gonna

1479
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: tick up even more.

1480
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: They've got Gordon in the outage Twins fans. Can I

1481
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: ask Twins fans something, how do you like g orshellow

1482
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: so far? I told you, yeah, he has not been great?

1483
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: Garanchez so far?

1484
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: Well is what has Gary been doing? I haven't even checked.

1485
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 1: I think he's in like two twenty. That's great. Yeah,

1486
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: it's great.

1487
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 3: But I think to wrap up on that question, it's like,

1488
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: I think the way I went about it, I just like,

1489
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: I've seen so many of this and I was like,

1490
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what's gonna happen.

1491
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna suck.

1492
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 3: And it's funny because they could really use Donaldson right now.

1493
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: And I get it was like a real like a

1494
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: reallocation of finances to be able to go get a

1495
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: Correau because I don't think they would have got Correa

1496
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: if they didn't move the Donaldson contract. But man, if

1497
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: money wasn't a factor here Donaldson on this team, I

1498
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: think it looks a lot different because they are giving

1499
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: up a lot at a premium offensive spot. I think

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Speaker 3: between the pitching questions, although the pitching is better than

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Speaker 3: we thought, and it's gonna be enough to have them

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: hang around, between the pitching questions on top of the

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: bullpen being eh at times, I love what we've seen

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: from you on Duran. I don't know if I believe

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01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: in Amelia Pagan to be able to lock it down

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: to the back end all year long, and you know

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01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: they could be used tale Rodgers.

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01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: Now Chris Paddock's hurt.

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Speaker 3: Injuries have bit the Twins a little bit, and they're

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: just not as deep as the White Sox I think

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 3: in terms of just high end talent, it's not yet.

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: But I think next year they're going to be a

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Speaker 3: really popular pick to win the division. And I think

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Speaker 3: they're going to be playing meaningful games all the way

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 3: down the stretch, which is still a far cry from

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 3: what it was last year in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: See this is where I was wrong on the Twins.

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: I assume the Guardians would be better than the Twins,

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01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 4: but actually I think the Twins are probably a better

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: team now than the Guardians. But I also wouldn't be

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 4: shocked if the Twins still finished third in this division

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: because the Guardians could get hot. But still I would say,

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 4: right now, if you put a gun in my head

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: and said Guardians are Twins for second place, I would

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Speaker 4: say twins.

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Speaker 3: So one last question to wrap up on this, Correa

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Speaker 3: comes Zach healthy, which we assume is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's like a finger bruise, like we talked about. A

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Buckston looks like he's managing his workload well and he

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01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: is amazing. So he is like, oh, my.

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Speaker 3: One hundred comes from Waxton, will be top fifteen four production, right, I.

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01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 4: Was talking to gambling device, Like you know, I said

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 4: on record Byron Buckson is one of the greatest players

1534
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: I've ever watched play, and he proves it day in

1535
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 4: and dale when he plays.

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, very big distinction there often because the best ability

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: is availability. And then when you turn on.

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Speaker 4: A Minnesota Twins game, he runs like the wind. He

1539
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 4: can defend almost as well as Andrew Jones. Yeah, he's

1540
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: got eleven home runs in twenty four games. I don't

1541
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 4: know what's on every game, so every other game I'm

1542
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 4: turning on, he's got a home run. He's one of

1543
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: the fastest players in baseball. In terms of a package

1544
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: of tools, it is one of the most incredible players

1545
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 4: we've ever seen in our sport. Doesn't mean he's the

1546
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 4: best and doesn't mean that he's the greatest, but in

1547
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: terms of talent, one of the most talented players I've

1548
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: ever seen play.

1549
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: He's he's up there.

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Speaker 3: Man. It is so much fun to watch, and to

1551
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: be able to hit with the power that he does

1552
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 3: without like moving is unbelievable. My question for you then,

1553
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: is if all those things happen, Joe Ryan continues to

1554
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: pitch well, Sonny Gray is healthy, and they go out

1555
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: and get a starting pitcher. So they go out and

1556
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: make a trade for one more legit starter. Could could

1557
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 3: you see them doing it and edging out the White Sox.

1558
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 4: It's almost like then I have to see what the

1559
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: White Sox do because you've seen the White Sox are

1560
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 4: gonna add too, right, So it's.

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: If the White Sox do nothing and the Twins at

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01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: a big time starter.

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01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 4: Yes, we're having a different conversation because it is gonna

1564
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 4: be that close.

1565
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: And I wonder, I wonder how urgent it is for

1566
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: the Twins because they do want to convince Correy at

1567
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: the point.

1568
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: That's a good point. And look, I'm.

1569
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: Not saying that they need to win at all, but

1570
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 3: go get that guy, show that you're trying to win.

1571
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: Finish the year strong. If you come up short, you

1572
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: come up short. I think Royce, you know, Royce Lewis

1573
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: is gonna get better and better. I think Karay is

1574
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: going to look and say, hey, we got a healthy

1575
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: year of bucks and they figured out how to manage

1576
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: the workload. The pitching's coming together, The young guys are here.

1577
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: I want to be a part of this, and he's

1578
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 3: made it clear that he's open to it. So it

1579
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: should be interesting to see if they feel that urgency

1580
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: to try to, you know, continue to build that team

1581
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: up and make a move. But that's it, dude. We

1582
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 3: got through nine questions. They're all great questions. I can't

1583
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: thank everybody enough for asking them. The mail bags every

1584
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: two weeks are a ton of fun. With you any

1585
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: other final thoughts before we.

1586
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Speaker 1: Jump off mail bag?

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Speaker 4: the Cubs tonight. Please Cubs, please win for a first

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Speaker 4: leather jacket day and what feels like a month, but

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