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Now your hosts, Nate 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Newton and Bobby Belt. 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross Talk. We are 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Belt from one five through the Fan, joined 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: tonight by Nicole Hutchinson from Dallascowboys dot Com. As always, 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: we've got the three time Super Bowl champion and six 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler Nate Newton here with us. 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: Yes, Sir Glad, and our special guest. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Tonight is one of the most electric players ever to 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: touch a football field, a member of the College Football 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and uh A, a two time Heisman finalist. 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: And a big time play maker for the Cowboys back 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: in this day. Please welcome Rocket A smile, Rocket, How 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: you do it, Rocky? 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: I'm doing excellent and I'm happy, and I have an 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: internal smile on my face. 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 5: And the reason I say internal. 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: Smile is because when you said a two time Heisman finalists, 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: I remember the first time we got that ability to 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: be I didn't even know that I was up for 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: the Heisman. In my sophomore year, we're on a road 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: trip in the second semester, going like January. So we're 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: on a road trip to go to IU Indiana University. 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: It's a Greek weekend down there, so we travel all 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: the way down there, and we're getting ready with listening 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: to Bobby Brown's remixed Don't Be Cruel, get ready to go. 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 5: To all the parties that night, right ruh. 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, somebody said, hey, the Heisman's on, 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 4: and Tony Rice was up. 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 5: He was supposed to be one of the finalists. So 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 5: they come on Tony Rice. 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: He gets like, I don't know, third or something like that, 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: and then they started listing the rest of the candidates 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: and I came in like seventeenth place or something. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 5: We were so pumped everybody. They were like at the 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: party and from the university of. 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: Preparing to go to the party. 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: We were so hype that we saw that Oh way, 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: my boy, wait you got you a sophomore? 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 5: You ready for man? We were so hyped. 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and it gave us extra courage because we weren't 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: twenty one yet. However, all of the parties we went to, 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: everybody was like talking to whatever girls they were trying 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: to pick up. 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: They're like, Yo, you know my man over there just 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: came in forty seventh. 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 4: Place for these and the rest of the night, and 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: we would go up to the bounce of they were like, hey, 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, my man right here, you go fifty to 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: fifth place. Look at him like, man, give me your 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: come on, you come on. So anyway, I had an 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: internal smile moment right there. That's now back to the show. 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: You know what the that's a that's a good place 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: to start to jump off because actually, uh, you know 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: you were you were very ahead of your time in 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. I mean just the speed that 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: you had and and you know, the the ability to 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: stretch the field and do a bunch of different versatile 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: things that that's very much like the modern NFL. But like, 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: let's talk about your career trajector a little bit and 70 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: jump back to college. And you were at a spot 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: that is becoming more familiar today for college football players. 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: But you were in a very powerful position when you 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: were coming out of Notre Dame, in a spot where, 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: unlike we had really ever seen from any college football player, 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: somebody who was in a position to kind of, you know, 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: be from a negotiating a powerful negotiating stance with the 77 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: NFL heading the draft. Just talk about that nineteen ninety 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: one NFL draft when it is coming up, your decision 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: process and everything that went down with that that path. 80 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: Okay, So I thank you for the kind sentiment of 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: saying that I was in a very powerful spot. However, however, 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: and this is crazy, I remember after every so what 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: transpired was we played in what would eventually become the 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: National Championship, and we played against Colorado New. 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 5: Year's Night Orange Bowl, big deal. 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: And we were down ten nine minutes, six seconds left. 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: They punt the ball to us. I'm the returner. A 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: bunch of stuff going on there. I get the ball, 89 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: take it to the house. Yes, And all of a 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: sudden there's a flag on the play. So now it's 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: like a thrill of victory. It's agony of the fifth moment. 92 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: If you're my age, you know that, you know with 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: the agne of defeat. Remember back in the day, while 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: we'll the sports, okay, so go home and national television 95 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: my team Chris Zorich, it's national news back in the 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: day on the four channels that was on television, and 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: it was national news that his mother passed away. He 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 4: came home, found his mother had passed away. My brother 99 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: comes in and wakes me up, and he's like sad. 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: He comes in and he's. 101 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: Like, bruh, you got to see this. Chris's mom. Just 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, what what the heck happened? My mother? 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: My brother and I are sitting on a bed in 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: a seventeen race street in Wilkesbury, Pennsylvania, and we're looking 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: at the news and it just it's crazy because my 106 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: father passed away when I was ten. However, my mother's 107 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: still there. So a lot of my goals were like, Okay, 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: I'm get my mother house just like what many new 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: little boys have. And I remember sitting there thinking, oh 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: wait a minute, my mother can die before I get 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: a chance to do what I'm supposed to do for 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: And so it was like in that moment, I just 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: remember looking at my mother and we were thinking this 114 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: sound was like, Man, I think I need to go 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: pro because I don't want this to happen to you. 116 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: That was what my thought made that decision went to scho 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 4: told everybody, and then we get to the part that 118 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: I was thinking that I wasn't even thinking powerful position. 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: I was just thinking, Man, I need to make sure 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 4: I keep my mother straight. All of a sudden, I 121 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 4: made the decision. Now I'm on the phone in my 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: dorm room between classes in the second semester or I 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: guess the spring semester, and every NFL team that. 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: Was supposed to be terrible called me up. 125 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: So whoever sucked and was going to have the first 126 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: pick of the draft that coming up year on the 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: phone with them, and guess what. All of them offered 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: the same deal. It was a five year deal, one 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: point five million dollars. And I was thinking to myself, Man, 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 4: I don't have one point five million dollars four hundred 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: thousand dollars signing rest would be pro rated over the 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: five years, and it was like, take it to leave it. 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: And the reason why they did that was because of 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: John Elway. When he was the first pick of the 135 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: draft Baltimore. He didn't want to go to Baltimore. He 136 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: told them I'm not doing it. I'm going to play 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: with the Yankees. The Yankees were like, Okay, we'll take you. 138 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: And then so he had leverage there. I didn't have 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: that kind of leverage, and so I was just essentially 140 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: not doomed, but I'd be better off than I was 141 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: if I didn't go. But I didn't have any leverage 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: with any of the teams. So all of a sudden, 143 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: I got a call from my attorney maybe four or 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: five days later, and he's like, hey, man, I just 145 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: got an interesting call from a guy in Los Angeles 146 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: who owned the Los Angeles Kings and all these other 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: corporate entities, and he's wanting you to fly out to 148 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: Los Angeles to hear a proposition that he has. Long 149 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: story short, that ended up taking me to the CFL. 150 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Signed at the time the richest contracting football history pro 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: football history, And that leverage that you were talking about 152 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: it was there, but it came about in a different way, 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: and it took two more years before I actually came 154 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: to the NFL and and took my journey NFL wise 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: from there. 156 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm curious that Nate, uh, you know, we'll talk about 157 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: the decision to jump to the CFL and and what 158 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: you experienced there. But Nate being on the Cowboys, that 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: your Dallas trades up for that pick a couple of 160 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: weeks before the draft. 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. 162 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: I think the Raiders had the pick. I don't remember 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: who it was, but Dallas trades up for the pick, 164 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: and there was a lot of stuff written at the time. 165 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: I know you were getting interviewed at the time about 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: what would you think about Dallas and you were getting 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: a lot of media attention. Nate, were you when you 168 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: heard that news? Did you start like sniffer around, like, oh, 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: who were taking? 170 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: Are we getting there? 171 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 6: We? 172 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 173 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: He was he was it? He was it. 174 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 7: But Jimmy and mister Jones like them, And I'm not 175 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 7: saying it was collusion, But for five teams to call 176 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 7: you with the same contract, I'm not saying it was collusion. 177 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Now, thank god for the for the for. 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 7: What's happening today, the players holding out, guys being able 179 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 7: to get a little bit more. 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 181 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 7: But when he left, they are a man in the 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 7: were taking Russell Mayland. Russell took the contract. 183 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: I'll take it. Yes, you don't want it? Yeah, And 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 5: it's interesting you mentioned the Raiders. 185 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: So I remember there were five teams that I spoke to, 186 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: but there were four of them that I remember was 187 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: the Falcons, the Browns, the Cowboys, and it was one 188 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: other team that was like, so had such a terrible 189 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: season that they were possibly going to be the first pick. 190 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 4: And I did look up the word collusion, and essentially 191 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: that's what happened. However, when you say the Raiders, I 192 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: remember when we made the decision to go to Canada. 193 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: I remember talking to Rolf Wiley because he was the 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: he was helping me make, you know, all of the 195 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: decisions and get the right people. He was like, hey, man, 196 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: well eventually this contract in the CFL is going to 197 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: run out. What you want to do about the NFL? 198 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: And man, I wish I would have had the mindset 199 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: that I have now as far as how you pick 200 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: a good team and all those things. 201 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 5: And man, I was just like, well I heard how 202 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: Davids like fast guys. 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 4: Let's let's go to the Raiders. And then and also 204 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 4: in the back of my mind, it's like, man, Los Angeles, 205 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: it's gonna be you know, it's Hollywood out there's all 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: the ladies is out there. Everything's gonna be high level. 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: And so from a decision making prospect, we called the Raiders, 208 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: told them what I was going to do, and then 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: on Draft Day they ended up taking me on the 210 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: one hundredth pick in the fourth round. And then everybody's like, hey, 211 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: wait a minute, what's going on here? 212 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 5: How's this boy? 213 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: That was a little behind the scenes that we just 214 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: shared with you and talk about Jimmy Johnson. After we 215 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: played Miami my senior year, we when we had like 216 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: Catholic versus convicts kind of situation. It was it was 217 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: it was crazy, man, man, when we played jim Johnson, 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Jimmy Johnson and Lou Holts hate each other, right, 219 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I come into a coach Holt's 220 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: office after we played them, and wouldn't you know it, 221 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: He's like, if I got a place for you. I 222 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: just got off the phone with Jimmy Johnson Josh, and 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: he telled me and man, Jimmy Johnson gave coach Holts 224 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: a wide receiver screen. He was like, oh man, ROCKTN 225 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 4: be perfect for this. And I was like, that thing 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: average probably like twenty five thirty yards every time you 227 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: ran it. Yeah, And I was thinking myself that it 228 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: gave me a new revelation on college coaches. And you 229 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: think it's this intense rival and you think they can't 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: stand each other, they hate each other, and all of 231 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: a sudden after the game, they're talking to each other 232 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: and he's like, hey man, you know that number twenty five. 233 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 4: You got give him this play and every time you 234 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: do it, it at least get thirty yards for you. So 235 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 4: I mean when you talk about Jimmy Johnson's like, my 236 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: memory is just like clicking as I'm going down memory 237 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 4: about all this stuff. 238 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 8: Yes, sir, right, rock rocket rocking, rock cocking Right, y'all 239 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 8: are sick, no rocket. When you talk about the levers, 240 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 8: that you had to make that decision and go play 241 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 8: in the CFL, and with the whole landscape of a 242 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 8: lot of guys don't have that opportunity to have that choice. 243 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: They are kind of. 244 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 8: Forced to go to the XFL, USFL, those leagues to 245 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 8: play and things like that to make their way to 246 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 8: the NFL. Have you ever got had those conversations with 247 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 8: guys when they come to you and ask for advice. 248 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: With things like that. 249 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: So yes, and one of the things that I'm telling 250 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: you the way the Lord just hooked everything up for me, 251 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: the pattern of my life, things just being added to 252 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: me that were necessary for whatever my gift was to shine. 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: Looking back at it, I was perfect timing every time 254 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 4: in that Notre Dame was on a resurgence, and it 255 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: was like all eyes were on noted them. I knew 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: Notre Dame had like status in the college football world, 257 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: but I didn't know to the degree, and it was 258 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: like on a high level. So that was the first thing. 259 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: And then it was like like I wasn't I really 260 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: wasn't a. 261 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 5: Good wide receiver at all. 262 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: I was man, I was. 263 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: I was bootleg when I look at myself back out 264 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: of that, however, whenever the moments were the most significant, 265 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: man I seem to always be in those moments and 266 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: always shining at that time. And this other thing, all 267 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: of our opponents, no disrespect to like the academies, but 268 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 4: all of our opponents were like the highest level Michigan Miami, Tennessee, 269 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: Michigan State, like all of the highest level Florida State, 270 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: like all those playing we play all those games. So 271 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: the games are meaningful to everybody. The moments are significant. 272 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: And then wait, who is this number twenty five always 273 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: showing up? 274 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 5: How did this cat? So that right there that I. 275 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: When I share it with them, I can't say, well, 276 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: you've not been in that position where the exposure is maximum, 277 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: So I just more encourage them, Okay, what do we 278 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: do from now? And have to navigate that road. But 279 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: what I was a part of that helped me to 280 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: be in that position was totally divine. 281 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: I hold them, I tell you, let me say this 282 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 3: really queer. 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: That's when they had the A P and the up 284 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. It want gonna be with two teams. 285 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 7: So you had to play the big boys. 286 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: It's all. You had to play the big boys. 287 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 7: And I want to say this right here with your 288 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 7: divine revelations is I thought Buddy Ryan and Coach Johnson 289 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 7: hated each other, but they did a roast for coach Johnson, 290 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 7: guess who his main attraction was. Hey go Buddy Ryan 291 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 7: sitting and I hear them talking about practicing how they 292 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 7: I'm like, y'all. 293 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: You guys, it's all. 294 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: It's all with a winking And I like that point 295 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: talking about the the exposure that was there in Notre 296 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Dame and how that was something that you weren't necessarily 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: prepared for. And so I want to I want to 298 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: touch on that one come back and also get into 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: the the NFL career. Uh, but that'll be when we 300 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: come back next here on the sl BBC Cowboys Cross Talk. 301 00:14:58,720 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 6: Boys No Cowboys, No Cowboys Stations, Long Child plus. 302 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: UBC customized solutions for individuals and businesses are just a 303 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: click away. Visit SWBC dot com to learn more and 304 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: start your next adventure. Thank you so much for joining 305 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: us tonight. We're live from the Cowboys Club at the 306 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Star in Frisco for the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. Thanks 307 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: to those of you joining us on Dallas Cowboys dot 308 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: com and on One five through the Fan. I'm Bobby 309 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: Belt from One through the Fan. I'm joined tonight by 310 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: Nicole Hutchinson from Dallas Cowboys dot com. Yes, we've got 311 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: the multi time pro bowler and Super Bowl winner Nate 312 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: new Hey. You need to come up here one of 313 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: these nights just with all three of them on I 314 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: think just a flex on everything. I'm sorry, that's good, 315 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: that's good, that's good. And joining us tonight is uh 316 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: former Dallas Cowboy Rocket is by I love it, I 317 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: like it. I didn't even think of it from that angle, Nate. 318 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: I was thinking from the angle of just to flex 319 00:18:54,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: on everything. Rocket is by al joy us here. So Rocket, 320 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: you were just talking about when we're going to break 321 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: about how big the spotlight was at Notre Dame, Bigger 322 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: than you could have thought. And then when you decided 323 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: to go play in the CFL, that alone was probably 324 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: just a ton of attention absent the CFL. Just the 325 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: decision itself brought a lot of spotlight. You ended up 326 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: here in Dallas later in your career, you experienced what 327 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: the cowboy aura is all about. The Cowboys have a 328 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: general approach. It feels like that they want to draft 329 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: big college program players. They want to get the Ohio 330 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: State kids, the Alabamas and stuff. And I think the 331 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: thought process there a lot of times is those kids 332 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: are more prepared to understand what it's going to be 333 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: like when they get here, because it's really difficult. Do 334 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: you feel like having been at those two historic programs, 335 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Notre Dame in college in Dallas here. Do you feel 336 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: like that's a wise way to approach it when you're 337 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: kind of a value in players is yeah, you need 338 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: to make sure that these kids have some taste. 339 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 5: Of it, So the surface level, I feel like that's wise. 340 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: I know also that for me, I wasn't like psychologically 341 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: being in an environment that it's a massive. 342 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: Amount of attention. 343 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: That's focused on the players, and there's what you assume 344 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: is a massive amount of pressure to perform under those 345 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: type of that type of attention and those type of lights. 346 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: I feel like every NFL team probably has this as 347 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: a part of their assessment process when they're dealing with 348 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 4: guys that they're going to draft. I feel like there 349 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: should be there probably is some type of an evaluation 350 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: on the psychology of who they're about to draft outside 351 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: before that specific type of environment that they're possibly going 352 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: to be thrust into. And I know for me, I 353 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: wasn't a guy that liked attention. And the reason I 354 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: didn't like attention was because I never felt I think 355 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: it was probably because my father died when I was 356 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: so young. I never felt like I was equipped to 357 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: handle whatever the task was now eventually I would have 358 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: to be in that situation, and thank God. 359 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: I would rise to the top. 360 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 4: But I think that was more of my grandmother's prayers, 361 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: my mother's prayers, family members who was like, hey, Rocket 362 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: is out there, go start praying for him. So I 363 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: feel like that was more divine intervention because my normal 364 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: makeup is avoiding anything that puts attention on you. 365 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: And I've had to learn now as an old man. 366 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Now I understand myself and I understand the fears and 367 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: anxieties that come with oh man, this is a big deal. Boy, 368 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: you better and I have mechanisms that over the years 369 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: I've developed that I can go to and remind myself 370 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: of Okay, it's not on you anyway. And one of 371 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: the things that was a blessing about Notre Dame, especially 372 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: the time that I went there, was we I mean, 373 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: everybody in the recruiting classes all three years that I 374 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: was there were like the top of the line. And 375 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: so I would when I would be in the locker room, 376 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: I would be overwhelmed with anxiety or overwhelmed with fear. 377 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 4: But then I would just look around. I was like, Oh, 378 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: that's Nate Newton, right there. Oh, okay, yeah, it would 379 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: if the fear level would go down. Oh that's Ricky 380 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: Waters right there. Oh that's Tony Rice. 381 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the fear level will go down. That's Chris Zoris. Oh, 382 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: that the fear level will go down. And then I 383 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: was just like, oh, it's not on me. I'm be fine. 384 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: And so I feel like the Cowboys have that, and 385 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: that I believe helps for guys like me who don't 386 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 4: really have that, that normally don't have that type of confidence, 387 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: but have the ability to rise to the occasion. 388 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 5: So I don't know if I answered the question the 389 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: right way. 390 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely is kind of what I was 391 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: looking at Nate similar to that where he says, it's 392 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: a good idea in theory, having been into this building 393 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: as long as you have, whether it be as a 394 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: player or you know, when you've done the broadcasting side 395 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: and hung around, Well, it's a nice thought. Is there 396 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: anything really you think that can prepare you for what 397 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: this really is? 398 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 7: Is kind of like, no, nothing can compare you for 399 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 7: New York Philadelphia, the Cowboys, the LA Lakers, the Boston Celtics, 400 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 7: even if you play at major universities, because they don't 401 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 7: take college kids to just expose them like they do 402 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 7: it pros. 403 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking about basketball, tennis. It don't make it difference. 404 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 7: Once you say pro, you get exposed and you get 405 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 7: asked certain questions. You're not going to get protected. For me, 406 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 7: being a free agent coming from a black college, I 407 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 7: never had no preparation, none whatsoever. I got to the 408 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 7: Cowboys and I didn't know what I didn't know, but 409 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: I wasn't never scared to talk to another man, and 410 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 7: so I wound up being a just a I don't 411 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 7: know what the proper title is, but just every week 412 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 7: it was something, guess what Nate said this week? 413 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Get you know? 414 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 7: And it wasn't nothing nothing about my team. It was 415 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 7: just about life itself. So I was always hey, Nate exposed, 416 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 7: the White House, Nate exposed, and. 417 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: You know, you know what I'm saying. 418 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 7: So, but I also had knowledge of football, and I 419 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 7: could tell you what Nate needed to do. I could 420 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 7: tell you what we needed to do as a team. 421 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 7: So I could always talk to other men as long 422 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 7: as you came to me straight up, I could talk 423 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 7: to you. But I had that I had that fear too, 424 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 7: because for another reason, I walked in there like, they go, 425 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 7: Randy White, They're got my childhood dream. They go, Danny White, 426 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: Oh my god, what am I gonna do? And they 427 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 7: over there with a mic in my face, and I'm 428 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 7: I'm in ah of these guys, right, But they wouldn't 429 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 7: handling I'm like you, they weren't handling it. 430 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: So I went to talking to you, even though I 431 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: didn't know what I was talking about. 432 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 8: How much easier was it without social media? Though, because 433 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 8: now you have guys that grew up with social media, 434 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 8: everybody catching everything, and that's just more of how they 435 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 8: handle the spotlight. So how much easier was it for y'all? 436 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: So I think my personality I would have avoided social media, 437 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 4: unless now that we're in the nil era, that would 438 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: have been somebody say, okay, hey, this is how you 439 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: need to monetize right now while you're hot and at 440 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: the peak of your awareness and football culture, and this 441 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 4: is how you can take advantage of it. So if 442 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: they would have brought social media to me, I suspect 443 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: that if we were being truthful, I'd be like, hey, man, 444 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: I don't like when I read something negative about myself 445 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 4: and it makes me angry and then I can't control 446 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: my emotions, so we probably would have had to put 447 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: some type of a head around me for me not 448 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: to be susceptible to not being able to be sober minded. 449 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick up your phone. 450 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 5: You said so apps on everything you got, Instagram, Twitter. 451 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 4: Now you know who would have been a social media superstar. 452 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: Nathaniel Elijah Newton. I don't know if that's your middle name. 453 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 7: They might have been writing a bunch of notes. The 454 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 7: way I have, I can tell you the way I 455 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 7: have the social media. I have all these things too. 456 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 7: I'll retweet what you say, I'll retweet with you. If 457 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 7: I see it, I'll read about nine time out of ten, 458 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 7: I won't see it because I'm not big into that. 459 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 7: So all the guys that work here that I'm connected with, 460 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 7: I just retreat what you said. But if I have 461 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 7: something to say, I never get into a conversation. People 462 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 7: like you can have so many more followers if I 463 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 7: feel that. And I'll give an example. Like a lot 464 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 7: of people, somebody it's the running backs. I think it's 465 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 7: more our offensive line. I've seen our running backs run before. 466 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 7: I'm talking about ric o'donald and even a little bit 467 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 7: of deuce. I've seen what they can do and what 468 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 7: they should be able to do, so I'm saying it's 469 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 7: mostly our offensive line. I don't tweet back, I don't 470 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 7: get into debates. 471 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: What I say is what I mean, and that's it. 472 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, So the reason I said Nate would have 473 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: been a star is just because in the football world, 474 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: everybody who. 475 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 5: For me, I'm just talking about myself. 476 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: When I saw the Cowboys, I was like, Yo, this 477 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: that that that lineman right there was Nate. 478 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 5: That dude is funny. 479 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: His personality shined and it was I'm a receiver, he's 480 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: a lineman I'm attracted to, Like, Yo, this cat got 481 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 4: something going on. So I feel like and if this 482 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: was then, as far as the social media and attention 483 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: like that, Nate would have rose above. 484 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you who's Who's an artist at it 485 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 7: and he started and grew up with it and now 486 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 7: he's a megastar as Deon Sims. 487 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. He had the personality. 488 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 7: He started He started by eight years ago and I 489 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: would say, like, Prime, you just putting it out. 490 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I am yeah. Eight years later, yeah. 491 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right, let's uh let let's kind 492 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: of wrap things up when we come back from this 493 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: next break where we're at take break here, let's kind 494 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: of wrap things up about your time here in Dallas, 495 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: getting here, and then the time you spent here, and 496 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: then let's start looking back at this Ravens game that 497 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: just occurred, uh, and then look ahead to the Giants 498 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: game that we have tomorrow night too, that is next 499 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: on the SWBC Cowboys Crossed Up. 500 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: Claire Cows. 501 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: Don't Cowards. 502 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: One Live back back to SWBC Mortgages, Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk 503 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 504 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: At SWBC customized solutions for individuals and businesses, or just 505 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: to click away. Visit SWBC dot com to learn more 506 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: and start your next adventure. Thank you so much for 507 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: joining us here on one O five through the Fan 508 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: and on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We are live from 509 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: the Cowboys Club at the Start in Frisco for the 510 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: SWBC Cowboys cross Talk. I'm Bobby Belt. We got Nicole 511 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: hutcheson from Dallas Cowboys dot com, Nate Newton who will 512 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: not be bringing his Super Bowl rings up here, and 513 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: then we've got the the speed Demon Legend Rocketess by. 514 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: So Roga. 515 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: We talked earlier about, you know, Dallas had traded up 516 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: for the number one pick I think you gave. I 517 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: was doing some research about the value of trading for 518 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: the number one pick this past offseason, and your year 519 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: came up, and so I was reading some quotes to 520 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: you given about like, you know, yeah, Dallas, it'd be 521 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: great to play that, Like you were clearly just a 522 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: little like uneasy talking about. But you end up having 523 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: a a kind of rebound after years in Oakland. You 524 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: have a rebound Oakland, LA, wherever they were at at 525 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: that time, you have a rebound in Carolina. Play really well, 526 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: get here to Dallas and h third and two from 527 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: the Dallas twenty four in overtime. Dan Snyder's first game 528 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: as owner of Washington and this was your first game 529 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys. That was a game you guys 530 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: were down twenty one with like eleven minutes left, getting 531 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: beat down. Big comeback and on third and two, the 532 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: play action to Emmett Ye perfectly hit you down the 533 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: field for that big seventy six yarder. How big and 534 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: full circle did that feel to you in that moment? 535 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: Of just like here I am on this stage performing 536 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: at a big level with Dallas, like I always thought 537 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: I might end up bruh. 538 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: Let me tell you. Gotta get the backstory. 539 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: So at Carolina, I was exposed to superior coaching and strategy. 540 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: From a receiver's perspective at that time, thought, Okay, the 541 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: top coaches in the world are coaching in the NFL, 542 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: so I didn't have anything to compare to. But I 543 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: was like, oh, wait a minute, this coaching is another level. 544 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: And that's why I started to excel. So that's the 545 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: first thing. Get to Dallas and mentally over the trials 546 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: and tribulations of what I experienced, and I think it 547 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: was seven eight nine, the previous nine years in professional football, 548 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: it was like I started putting together two I started 549 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 4: developing tools that when things weren't going my way, I 550 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 4: was able to lean on them and they would bring 551 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: me back to Okay, this is who you are and 552 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: this is what you can do. So when we got 553 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: here in that first game, it was amazing. It was 554 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 4: a spiritual transformation first of all, and it was the 555 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: spirit of the Cowboys then and what happened from Nate 556 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: those guys' time up until when I got here was 557 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 4: they did not there was something in them that would 558 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 4: not accept mediocrity and like not accept any type of 559 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: less than excellence. So I remember, in the first half 560 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 4: of the game, ran a play that actually ended up 561 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: winning the game. 562 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 5: I dropped the ball. So now I'm doing the football 563 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 5: version of. 564 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 4: The Walker shame all the way back to the locker. 565 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 4: I mean all the way back to the huddle. 566 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: Man. 567 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: I get in the huddle and it's like it's like 568 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: I want, you want to do so good, but you don't. 569 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: And then you know you deserve to be chastised. And 570 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: I remember Eric Williams. He had these mummy wraps on 571 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 4: his arms so he could smack guys in the head 572 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: when he was locking them and puts, you know, Stelle 573 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 4: make guys like, uh, what's your boy? Reggie White off 574 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: the end from Philly, man, he said what everybody and 575 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 4: when I say you don't don't tolerate mediocrity, he said 576 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: what everybody in the huddle wanted to say. He looked 577 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 4: at me and he's on the other end. I'm down 578 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 4: another word, opposite end of the huddle. He said, mother 579 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: the yup black, he said, catch the blah blah blue ball. 580 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: And as he was saying it, I noticed his arm 581 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: was winding back and I was like, is. 582 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 5: This man stretching while he's talking to me? What kind 583 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 5: of situation on my end? 584 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: And right as he finished it, like a physical exclamation point, 585 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 4: that dog on arm went from being in a stretch 586 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: position to full force action and smack me across the 587 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: helmet and my dog on left ear and my and 588 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 4: this is no exaggeration. 589 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 5: My entire left side was numbed for the rest of 590 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 5: the first half. 591 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: But it was like I was so humiliated, mortified that 592 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 4: I let the guys down, and then I brought in 593 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: mediocrity into an environment where excellence was expected. 594 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 5: That I was. 595 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 4: I was thankful for it, and I was like, sir, yes, sir, 596 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 4: And everybody was like but but I was like, oh, 597 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: this is why they were always so good, Like this 598 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 4: is why they don't they don't tolerate any mediocrity. And 599 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: I another dynamic. I remember, that's when I realize that 600 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 4: Michael Irvin, like, you know, when you say you're the 601 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: heart of a team, like you have the preeminence is 602 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 4: typically put on a quarterback, which which it was Michael 603 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: Irvin was such the man. 604 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: He was such a well balanced like. I liked him 605 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 5: because he. 606 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: Had the when you talk about alpha dogs, it's like 607 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: he had the He's like, to me, the ultimate alpha 608 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: dog in that environment, because man, he got that force 609 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: in his emotion and he doesn't like bullies, so he 610 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: doesn't He'll meet challenge for challenge, but he won't bully you. 611 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: And if he sees somebody bullying somebody team, he's he 612 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 4: don't don't care if you're O lineman, a D lineman, 613 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 4: o't care, if you the son of the dog one 614 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: mayor man, he. 615 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 5: Will step to you and correct you. So I was 616 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm seeing his dynamic. 617 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 4: And I remember he would come back to the huddle 618 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 4: because they put Champ Billy on him because he's a young, tall, 619 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: athletic dB, and they put Darryl Green on me because 620 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: he's fast and we're like the same side. And I 621 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: remember Troy I mean that, I mean Mike would come 622 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: back to the huddle and he was say, Troy, I'm 623 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 4: on the I'm I'm gonna be open. 624 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: And I remember Troy was so cool coplate. 625 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: He was like, all right, Mike. 626 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 4: Two of the two of the touchdowns that that dynamic 627 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 4: happened on It happened twice. One was major first down, 628 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: the other two were touchdowns, and I was just like, 629 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, and like so you could see that 630 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 4: type of tenacity, uh and care, and it was harmony 631 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 4: amongst the guys that were in that huddle. So now 632 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: all this is happening, and I'm like, Lord, you gotta 633 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 4: redeem me. Man, I'm messed up in front of these dudes. 634 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 635 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 5: And I know my wife was home prayers and my 636 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 5: little boys. 637 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: Was out, and my little Kenna was just born, so 638 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: I had my little my youngest girls. So all of 639 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 4: a sudden, we're in overtime and I'm stunned. I'm like, man, 640 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 4: we were down twenty eight points or some twenty one 641 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 4: points of crazy. I was like, this is this cat's 642 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 4: hold on high level. 643 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 5: And all of a sudden they call that play again 644 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 5: in the huddle. 645 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 4: Do you remember I do not, please forgive me, please 646 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 4: forgive me, But I remember once the play came in. 647 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if they called it in, if they 648 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 4: if a player brought it in. I remember, uh, we 649 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 4: we leaned down. They called the play. Everybody looked at 650 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: me and it was like hot, blah blah blah blah, 651 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 4: rocket you going blah blah blah blah, Yeah, yeah, catch 652 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: that blah blah blah blah blah. 653 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, sir, yes, sir, let's go. 654 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 5: And then it happened. 655 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 4: So I had to give you all of that because 656 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance at Redemption. It became the 657 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: play and it put. It was just like at Notre Dame. 658 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 4: It was like, here's a significant moment. And I think 659 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 4: we were the primetime afternoon game and when we played 660 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: and FedEx Field was like brand new or something like that, 661 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 4: and so it was like the at the time before 662 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 4: mister Jones did his thing, it was like one of 663 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: the jewels as. 664 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 5: Far as the stadium of the NFL world. 665 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 4: And so it was a big deal Cowboys Washington and 666 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 4: now the dog gonna play happens. And you know, it's 667 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 4: funny it when it happened, it was so easy and 668 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 4: so just effortless. But it was a lot and foundation 669 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: that went into that play happening. So uh for you 670 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: bringing that up placea bro bruh, it was, man. So 671 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm thankful to have been a part of that dynamic 672 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: and a part of the redemption in regards to and 673 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 4: now I know what it should look like amongst players 674 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: if I'm ever around them, the type of dynamics that 675 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 4: you need to make a team that consistently win. 676 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm really glad you brought up that angle of it. 677 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: Where we're about to take our last break. I want 678 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: to make sure we have as much time as we 679 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 2: can to get in this last segment kind of preview 680 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: things a little bit. But specifically, I want to t 681 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: up the question before we go to break, because when 682 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: you talk about that intensity and that tenacity and you know, 683 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 2: barking at each other and holding each other accountable, given 684 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: what we saw this weekend against Baltimore was Ceedee Lamb 685 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: and Micah Parsons and those interactions going on the sideline, 686 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 2: how do you make sure that those interactions are productive 687 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 2: and not toxic? So want I want you to think 688 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: about that while we're in this three minute break. We're 689 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: gonna be right back here on the SLVBC Cowboys Cross Talk, Rock. 690 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 5: And Top Though. 691 00:41:50,640 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 6: Cowboys Outs Don't Cowards. 692 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgages Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk broadcasting live from the Cowboys 693 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: Club as a star in Frisco. 694 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 2: At SWBC, Customized solutions for individuals and businesses are just 695 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 2: a click away. Visit SWBC dot com to learn more 696 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 2: and start your next adventure. Welcome back to the Cowboys 697 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: Club at the Star in Frisco for the SWBC Cowboys 698 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: Cross Talk powered by Rockets. My l I've got Nicole Hutchinson, 699 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: Nate Newton, yes, and of course Rocket tonight. 700 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 3: So I asked that asked that question. 701 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: We were going to break about the idea of how 702 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: do you make sure that tense interactions on the sideline, 703 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: those ones like you were described, Rocket, how do you 704 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: make sure that those have a productive end of them 705 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: and don't have a a detrimental effect on culture. Nate, 706 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: give me your thoughts first, and and then I want 707 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 2: to jump over to Rocket and get some in. 708 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: See he talked about Mike Irving. That was Mike Irving. 709 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 7: He he would he would listen to what you have 710 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 7: to say, and then he would diagnose the situation high 711 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 7: school handled, how he want this team to be ran 712 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 7: He knew who Troy was so because I had a 713 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 7: situation where Troy said something to me boy I thought 714 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 7: was so out of the line. I can't even think 715 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 7: what it was now, and I told Mike, I said, 716 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 7: I'm going I'm going to get this dude. 717 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: So Mike went direct at you. 718 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 7: Ain't gonna get this, dude, but you're gonna get cut. 719 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 7: So as soon as you do what you do, and 720 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 7: that was to stop me, Kole. He knew right then, 721 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 7: I got to stop this dude. But then after the 722 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 7: game he tells you, you realize this is our quarterback. 723 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 7: You realize that he's got more than just you to 724 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 7: worry about. So Mike would get in because, like you said, 725 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 7: it was an ultimate leader. He knew how to talk 726 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 7: to everybody, raise size, position, defense, offense. 727 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 3: He could touch everybody because. 728 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 7: He had that warrior's mentality to win and how to 729 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 7: get us to perform. 730 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: So he would stop it. 731 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 7: And on top of that, Jimmy Johnson would smash it. Yeah, 732 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 7: he would smash it. But this is a different eraror Yeah, 733 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 7: so so I can't address it now. 734 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 4: So my thoughts, pardon me, my thoughts are that we 735 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 4: won't really know because we're at external and internally. What 736 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 4: I saw that would be ideal was if there were 737 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 4: any intense moments when I first got here, when they were. 738 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 5: Intense moments between guys. 739 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: How you knew it didn't go any further was all 740 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 4: of a sudden, Now we're making fun of each other again. 741 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 4: We're laughing, like whether it's at the end of that 742 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 4: day or you got to go home and cool off 743 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 4: and then come back the next day. And I remember 744 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 4: there was an intense moment and I was like, oh man, 745 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 4: this is gonna mess up the chemistry. And then the 746 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 4: next thing I know, Mike comes in. 747 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 5: And this is hilarious. 748 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 4: His shirt, his shirt that you wear externally, all of 749 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 4: his boxers and his on his shirt matched his shirt 750 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 4: and people and when cats saw it because he walked 751 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 4: in the locker room like yeah, I'm the man checking 752 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 4: me out whatever, and brothers started roasting him like cray 753 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, okay, everything is good. 754 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 5: Now, everything's cool. I thought he was gonna carry over. 755 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 4: So I don't have the ability to diagnose and see that, 756 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 4: so I don't know how to answer that, but I 757 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 4: just something like that in regards to this current team 758 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: should take place in order to make sure if there's 759 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 4: any beef, it's squashed. 760 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 8: What I like is that CD did take accountability about 761 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 8: how he handled it because at the end of the day, 762 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 8: you know you're down, you're losing or whatever. You're not 763 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 8: really thinking about the fact that you're screwing up. And granted, 764 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 8: I mean loved covering these guys, but ceed was running 765 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 8: lazy routes. He wasn't doing his part, and so it's 766 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 8: kind of like you can't expect Dak to be wanting 767 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 8: to throw you the ball. You're requesting to throw him 768 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 8: the ball or get the ball thrown at you, and 769 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 8: you're not doing your part. So it's I love the 770 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 8: fact that he owned his stuff and took accountability and 771 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 8: now it's just move forward. 772 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 2: And what it sounds like I'm hearing from you guys 773 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: on the front because both of you are saying like 774 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: I can't really speak to it, but you're both saying 775 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: common things it sounds like to me, which is those 776 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: moments can only come after you've built a foundation of 777 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 2: trusting each other. And so like, the biggest thing I'll 778 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: just have to be that if those moments have come 779 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 2: they haven't already built a trust or built a camaraderie, 780 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: then that can kill them pretty quickly. 781 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 7: The thing that you have to also understand is at 782 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 7: this point this team should not have a loser's mentality. 783 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 7: I've been on a loser's mentality way. This type of 784 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 7: thing can tap the team, but you have a winner. 785 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 7: You've been twelve and five, you've been at the bottom 786 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 7: of the barrel. Yes, this is back to back something 787 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 7: that's unique from the last two years. But y'all should, 788 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 7: like you say, have enough trust man to know that 789 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 7: we can fix this. And to me, it's a it's 790 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 7: a small fix. It's between him and Dak at office line. 791 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 7: That's a large fix. 792 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 4: You know. It's interesting that something that gave me hope 793 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 4: and it was crazy. I'm just scrolling through like the 794 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 4: NFL highlights on YouTube. I come across it was I 795 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 4: think it was Chris Carter and this topic came up 796 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 4: and Chris Carter said something that he heard Bill Belichick say, 797 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 4: and so I was like, oh, Bill Belichick, let. 798 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 5: Me listen to this. 799 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 4: And he was talking about this modern NFL era and 800 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 4: he was talking about, don't panic before the first while 801 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 4: the first four games have not yet been played, thank you. 802 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 4: He was like, don't panic because what happens is the 803 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 4: first four NFL season games for this modern era, this 804 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 4: is Bill Belichick is still in that preseason ish type 805 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 4: mode and it's in the development mode and and we 806 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 4: talked about development, trust and things of that nature. You 807 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 4: will see what you have, but it's gonna take the 808 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 4: first four games and then after that. So when he 809 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 4: said that, I was like, oh, okay, this is on 810 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 4: the game three. So I didn't like get into place 811 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 4: where I'm down and everything is starting to be like, oh, 812 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 4: the sky's falling. 813 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 5: So that helped me a little bit when I thought 814 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 5: about just what was going on so far. 815 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 2: I want to, you know, kind of wrap here, get 816 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: Nicole and Nates thoughts in advance here of what we're 817 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 2: looking at with the giantsmorrow before we do that rocket. 818 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of questions here about Brandon Cook's 819 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: thirty one years old. Is he does he still have 820 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: the same you know, trailblazing speed that he did, very 821 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 2: similar type of play. He's a five ten, one nine, uh, 822 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: you know, four to three kind of guy like that. 823 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: That's the same sort of skill set. So people are 824 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: wondering is he not getting that same separation because of that? 825 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: So before we just wrap up with the Giants review, 826 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: when did you feel like you lost a step with 827 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 2: a similar athletic profile. 828 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 5: So the I'll never forget this. I remember. 829 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 4: I think it was my I don't know if whenever 830 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 4: Mario Edwards was drafted. That's that's all I say. So 831 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 4: Mario Edwards, he's probably about six feet, really long arms, 832 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 4: and he was a rookie out of Florida State, and 833 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: I remember we were in a mini camp and I 834 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 4: remember the first time he came up on me. Usually 835 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 4: guys on Nobody came up on me on the game. Well, 836 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 4: one time they did, but they paid for it. But 837 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 4: the next time, uh, this is the first time one 838 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 4: of our guys came up on me in the game 839 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 4: and the practice. And so I remember I was like, okay, 840 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 4: he got the long arms profile. I'm just gonna do 841 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 4: what I normally do. I'm gonna slip out the line. 842 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get in his body real fast, and I'm 843 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 4: gonna sack him. 844 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 3: Man. 845 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 5: He put his arm out there. 846 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I did everything in my mind and 847 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 4: I thought was gonna be effective. I put his arm 848 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 4: down and then his arm just came back and he 849 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 4: was still the same distance away from me. 850 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 5: I'm like, wait, what the savage? 851 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 4: And so he negated me on that play and I 852 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 4: remember thinking to myself, Yo, I think I lost the step. However, 853 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 4: and this is the other thing that confirmed it. We 854 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 4: were doing forty times later that summer and I could 855 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 4: not break four three for the life of me. Like 856 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 4: all I I just kept running four to three three low, 857 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 4: but four three four three four three, And I was like, 858 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 4: what is happening? And so anyway, I lost a step 859 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 4: and so what compensated however, and I was still able 860 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 4: to get such a separation was that in the games, 861 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 4: guys still are aware of unless they're playing two men, 862 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 4: they're not just trying to come up and you just 863 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 4: might catch Rocket on a real, real fast get got So. 864 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 5: That was didn't happen. 865 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 4: But I also became a route technician and I didn't 866 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 4: have any wasted steps for the majority of my routes. 867 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 4: And because of that, the little bit of separation that 868 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: you need in the NFL always got it when it 869 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 4: was needed. 870 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: So for those keeping track at home, Rocket, when that 871 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 2: would have been when you're describing would have been when 872 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: you were thirty about to turn thirty one. Yes, today 873 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks turned thirty one years old. So all right, 874 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 2: let's really quickly wrap up here. Nicole Nate, We'll start 875 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 2: with you, Nicole thoughts just heading into this Giants game, 876 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 2: the last couple minutes we have left. 877 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: What are you looking for? 878 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: What concerns do you have? 879 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 7: Oh? 880 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 8: I have a lot of concerns, But if I had 881 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 8: to choose one, i'd say is I want them to 882 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 8: be able to run the football. I mean, me and 883 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 8: Nate were talking about it. I agree with the offensive 884 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 8: line issues, but I also haven't seen enough from Rico 885 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 8: and Zeke this year. I mean, we've seen what Rico 886 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 8: can do. He's shifty, he has some bursts to him, 887 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 8: and it's just a violent runner. But we haven't had 888 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 8: a chance to see that this year because Mike McCarthy 889 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 8: says they haven't gotten the amount of tips that attempts 890 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 8: that they need. That's again because this offensive line isn't 891 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 8: doing what they need to do to open up holes. 892 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 8: But again, I want to see them establish the run. 893 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 8: It's gonna be a little bit wet, conditioned, so it'll 894 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 8: be a little bit difficult, and plus going up against 895 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 8: this defensive line that the Giants have, the interior is 896 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 8: pretty scary, so they're gonna have to find a way 897 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 8: to run the football, maybe attack the edges or something, 898 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 8: but running up of the middle is not gonna happen. 899 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 8: So I really just want to see them establish a 900 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 8: run game and hopefully everything else falls into place. 901 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 2: Nate short week, trap lane, physical football game. You're just 902 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 2: coming off of what are you looking at to tonight? 903 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: Next to Lawrence? 904 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 7: If he gets penetration up our field, it's over. Oh 905 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 7: this is Cooper BB Welcome baby, Yeah, welcome. Because you 906 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 7: got burns on the outside, you got Thiboteau on the 907 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 7: other side. These guys can whole edges. We're gonna have 908 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 7: to run football. We gotta keep them off the field 909 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 7: because they're gonna run the ball. At least thirty five times. 910 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 7: He did it before they was playing us. They watched 911 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 7: that field. They're gonna do it now out playing us. 912 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 7: So that's what I'm watching. It's all on our offense. 913 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 7: Our defense is not there. It's all on our offense. 914 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, you know when you mentioned running 915 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 2: the ball, and I thinks I think if they're able 916 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: to protect, they'll be able to take advantage of some 917 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 2: things in the secondary. To you know, two of the 918 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 2: Giants better corners of Dory Jackson and Drew Phillips are 919 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: gonna be out in this game. So I think they'd 920 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,720 Speaker 2: be able to take advantage some things, but they gotta 921 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: be able to protect and the way these blitz schemes 922 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 2: and everything else that the Giants have been running, it's 923 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 2: gonna be definitely You got two young guys. 924 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: Let me say this real quick, hit me. You ever 925 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 3: see pass rush out there? Defense offense pass rush normally? 926 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 3: Did the defense win? Right? Yeah, that's what happened. If 927 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 3: we can't run the ball, it'll be yes beat. 928 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: There's a number of challenges ahead for this game. Big game, 929 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 2: very big game, very big early September game. Thinking to 930 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 2: Nicole hutcheson tonight, Nate Newton and of course Rock absolutely 931 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 2: appreciate it. It was fantastic. Can't wait to have you 932 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: back again, Nate. I guess I gotta hit all right. 933 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: That is for us today. We'll talk to you guys 934 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: again next week on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk. 935 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 936 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.