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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And finally it's a work week here
Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. We've got dummies on the field. No,
Speaker 1: the media is not on the field, and we're not
Speaker 1: going live from the field. We have blocking dummies on
Speaker 1: the field and they're gonna be outdoors today. And finally,
Speaker 1: our long national nightmare of no Cowboys on a practice
Speaker 1: field is over as of this morning, and this is
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. We are now t minus what four days
Speaker 1: away from finally playing a game. Your five day NFL
Speaker 1: weekend starts tonight with an epic matchup San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers and the Oakland Raiders. At least both teams
Speaker 1: don't have to travel very far. That's exactly right. Did
Speaker 1: you hear who San Francisco might be starting at quarterback tonight?
Speaker 1: You have any idea? Now, they're very educated people here, Okay,
Speaker 1: you understand. I think feel like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: that we know all the quarterbacks on all the teams
Speaker 1: in the league, right, what's wrong with Bethard? Bethard's got
Speaker 1: a shoulder. Yeah, okay, so I don't know who the
Speaker 1: third quarolos out. I don't know who the third flows out.
Speaker 1: Did they get somebody off the street? They got someone
Speaker 1: off their practice squad who is actually Gino Kramarzi, who's
Speaker 1: actually been with the team just as long as C. J.
Speaker 1: Bethard has been with the team, which isn't all that long.
Speaker 1: But he was signed out of the same draft. Did
Speaker 1: they trade for law Lada Kyle la Letta? He's got
Speaker 1: his own issues in New York. They did sign Tom Savage,
Speaker 1: but he's not the guy, and then they released him
Speaker 1: on the Saturday before a game. But anyway, too much pride.
Speaker 1: He's out of Southern Miss. So Joe Trehan from Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy Joe is Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins, who are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly good question. Garrison asked the question, who are you?
Speaker 1: I looked at from Southern miss. I look at three
Speaker 1: hundred players. I think I've seen Nick Mullins play. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've evaluated Nick Mullins. So I've watched several
Speaker 1: you know whose records he broke it Southern Miss Oh
Speaker 1: Brett and Austin Davis. Austin Davis as well. There you go.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're talking. You know, I probably will
Speaker 1: I need to make different plans for tonight, I think. No,
Speaker 1: I still I like watching. You can work now, you
Speaker 1: can do something while you're watching. Yeah, it's just it's wallpaper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Troy, he's saying about getting this colum in
Speaker 1: early on a Friday for eight pm. That'd be awesome
Speaker 1: for me or Kurt or whoever has to read it.
Speaker 1: Say with Mick shots too, hurry up. Locker room didn't
Speaker 1: open until four thirty. I know there was news I
Speaker 1: got you. It was. It was insightful too, it was
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to get to. First off. Oh well,
Speaker 1: first off, I had the Halloween go for. Everybody didn't
Speaker 1: hand out one bit of candy. And it wasn't the purpose.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a purpose. Light on. Oh no, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just live in a neighborhood with a bunch of old folks.
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. And so I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: If everybody doesn't want to come around and get candy.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I can't really see you being
Speaker 1: the guy. Hey, what's uh? No, I like to see
Speaker 1: the costumes? Yeah, I would. I like to see, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. Oh and you know, Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1: Oh what are you? Oh? You know, I'd asked the
Speaker 1: silly questions, but I justns passed it, so then it's
Speaker 1: passed it. Yeah, he went to a party. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to give him a ride home, which was a
Speaker 1: good thing for me. Yeah. So I'm worried about driving
Speaker 1: around home Halloween night. Yeah, it's kind of scary of
Speaker 1: those kids, you know, they kind of darted in between
Speaker 1: cars and stuff. Sure, be careful out there. What'd you do? Bill?
Speaker 1: We uh we ten kids? We were at Cowboys Club
Speaker 1: right here at the Star and the Legend show. You
Speaker 1: guys didn't do that all night? Well then I went
Speaker 1: to work. Oh then you had to go to work
Speaker 1: after that? Well, first off, first off, I spent two
Speaker 1: hours in twenty minutes in traffic going from Fort Worth
Speaker 1: Peer to Frisco to host the show, and then blame
Speaker 1: that on Vicky. Yeah, and I just walked upstairs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, he went thirty seconds to the Cowboys Club
Speaker 1: and he had a great show with Drew Pearson. Of
Speaker 1: course you can't. You can't screw that up. No ruse
Speaker 1: on the show, he'll talk the whole time. He just
Speaker 1: kind of sit there and sip water. And there was
Speaker 1: no one up there dressed for Halloween. No, there wasn't.
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of all professional old people. That's
Speaker 1: Cowboys Club clientele. They had their party on Friday, and
Speaker 1: I heard it was a pretty good party. I bet
Speaker 1: it was. But yeah, I guess we didn't get the
Speaker 1: vents from Halloween. You knew it was kind of a
Speaker 1: no show, yea. And how about you, Rob, Happy birthday mom.
Speaker 1: Her birthday is on Halloween, so every year it used
Speaker 1: to be a trigger treating thing. Now it's just let's
Speaker 1: just get away. Let's go get something to eat, turn
Speaker 1: the light off, and yes, go get dessert. Some out
Speaker 1: there on time. No thanks to you, It's okay. Did
Speaker 1: you apologize for me? I didn't. I will though you
Speaker 1: were supposed to tell your mom it was my fault.
Speaker 1: You had to use had to stay five more. That's
Speaker 1: an excuse. We all use a mixture that creative genius
Speaker 1: you know, try. You can't just knock it out. It's
Speaker 1: got to take time and the knock to edit that,
Speaker 1: you know, like a bottle of one. Probably only took
Speaker 1: me an hour to do it. Half hour before, half
Speaker 1: hour after. It wasn't It wasn't insightful. Locker room. I wish.
Speaker 1: I wish folks can hear Mickey type. It's the greatest thing.
Speaker 1: You have a typewriter. It might as well be the
Speaker 1: I have a keyboard because I used to wear out
Speaker 1: the do you hunt and peck you? No? But it is.
Speaker 1: It is with some violence. It's like Randy Macho man
Speaker 1: savage op rope, just banging the elbow. I bet none
Speaker 1: of you had to really type on a typewriter. That's
Speaker 1: how I. I typed on a typewriter. I used to
Speaker 1: write the Jones. You did not. I bet it was
Speaker 1: an electric one. No, I have a man I still
Speaker 1: have a manual typewriter. I wrote I wrote a one
Speaker 1: time in my life? Are you aware how get off
Speaker 1: the lawn? That sounds? What's that? You guys didn't learn
Speaker 1: how to type on a typewriter? Like oh, back in
Speaker 1: the old days, that was better stuff to carry a
Speaker 1: film project scouting. You had to push the keys down,
Speaker 1: you didn't just call it move your hand there. And
Speaker 1: then typing class. I was the worst in typing class.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize how cool, how cool it should
Speaker 1: have been, because I did it. My mother made me
Speaker 1: go to summer school, and you know, back then, the
Speaker 1: stigma of summer school. You're a big video. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so she was tired of having to get a type
Speaker 1: my stuff because people couldn't read what I wrote. That's
Speaker 1: another whole thing. And so I get in there and
Speaker 1: there's there. It's a class of maybe twenty five and
Speaker 1: I bet twenty three of them were female. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh this what am I doing it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know this was that's where it all started. Huh Yeah, Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's pretty funny. I made a friend
Speaker 1: in that Yeah, yes, it's going up. Made a friend
Speaker 1: in that class. Uh So it was before my freshman
Speaker 1: year in high school. And we are still friends today.
Speaker 1: So that's almost yeah, I hate to say almost fifty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nice, Mickey. I like that story. Thank you. Hey
Speaker 1: you guys started with the typing, right Rob, Anything you
Speaker 1: happen to the locker room yesterday? What a drop. That's
Speaker 1: gotta have more violence to it. More violence. That That
Speaker 1: was a real type of Oh you hit that thing
Speaker 1: going across. Absolutely, we'll get it. We'll get a tape
Speaker 1: recorder to your keyboard. I'm gonna do that before the
Speaker 1: end of the day so everybody can hear just how
Speaker 1: crazy it is. I don't have my portable Mickey taking notes, Mickey, Mickey.
Speaker 1: The Mickey was using like three legal pads on a conversation.
Speaker 1: That's right, I love it. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: read those notes. They get me to where I can
Speaker 1: look at the recording. Didn't find what there you go?
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, hieroglyphics. What you do
Speaker 1: before audio tape, before tape recordings, what you do have
Speaker 1: your notes? You have to keep up man a long
Speaker 1: time newspaperman. Right there, though, Rob, do you have your
Speaker 1: recorder in the locker room? Just stop piling on Mickey.
Speaker 1: Now we can we go. I don't show the Lockerrooe
Speaker 1: minutes left locker room yesterday. Offensive line to the Hey,
Speaker 1: they all addressed the elephant in the room, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: firing and Mark Colombo coming in and Mickey saw different
Speaker 1: interpretations of that. No, they accurate interpretation. Okay, well there
Speaker 1: were different interpretations though there were Zack Martin, Look, he said,
Speaker 1: this is not a one man blame game. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have to play better. We're not playing up to our standard. Okay. Um.
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith spoke about it. Lyle Collins spoke about it.
Speaker 1: I think the general feeling is Mark Colombo. They're comfortable
Speaker 1: with him. He's a former player, he's not far removed
Speaker 1: from being a player. Sure, but they have to do
Speaker 1: a better job. And I thought the interesting question for
Speaker 1: Zach was, all right, do you what do you do?
Speaker 1: Do you scrap these new techniques that Alexander was teaching
Speaker 1: you guys? He said, really, I don't think we can
Speaker 1: do that completely. I mean, we'll try to integrate some
Speaker 1: of our old stuff, but mid season, especially for younger guys,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be to do. I ain't there. I think
Speaker 1: there was some absolute That sentence is gonna sound terrible,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the truth. I think there's some
Speaker 1: guys that were glad to see this happen, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to put words in guys mouths
Speaker 1: or try to, but you look at some of the
Speaker 1: things that those guys. I mean, we're talking about guys
Speaker 1: that were all pros and Pro Bowl players, and you're
Speaker 1: right tackle wasn't that guy. And we all talked about this.
Speaker 1: This is no secret that when there's people that said
Speaker 1: that that right tackle is going to struggle with this change,
Speaker 1: and he struggled, and I think there's I think he's
Speaker 1: the one. He has to be the happiest of them
Speaker 1: that Okay, you know, Mark, help me, help me get
Speaker 1: back to what we were doing last year. Help me
Speaker 1: get back with my feet, my punch, my hands, my balance.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things that he that
Speaker 1: Mark can go back and say, Okay, remember when we
Speaker 1: did this, Remember when we did this. I mean, the
Speaker 1: familiarity that he has with that player, I think will
Speaker 1: help that player. But I think Tyrn Smith, I mean
Speaker 1: I applaud him for being being honest about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get to the elephant and the real I was
Speaker 1: gonna let you handle the different interpretation. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: different it was an accurate interpretation. Because some money asked
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, who rarely talks, I think it kind of
Speaker 1: got forced into got forced. But they asked him if
Speaker 1: he was if he felt or if they felt responsible
Speaker 1: for Paul Alexander getting fired, like it was their fault,
Speaker 1: and he said, no, not at all. It's something that happens,
Speaker 1: and it's really nobody's fault. No one is really in
Speaker 1: control of something like that. We don't really pay too
Speaker 1: much attention to it and just focus on what we
Speaker 1: can control. Now, is that being irresponsible or is he
Speaker 1: telling you what they thought of Paul Alexander? Look, yeah, please, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. It's something that happens, and it's really
Speaker 1: nobody's fault. No one is in control of something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what he said, and he never talks, right,
Speaker 1: So well, Yeah, if you have a different interpretation, have
Speaker 1: at it. I didn't. I'm multiple handle this in the break.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying that you had a different interpretation.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that there were kind of different ways of
Speaker 1: the questions being answered. They all got asked the same thing,
Speaker 1: he answered it a little differently. Yeah, it's not being
Speaker 1: so sensitive. He was just being He just wouldn't being
Speaker 1: nice like everybody else, right, I guess. I mean they
Speaker 1: all kind of said, what you're supposed to ask you
Speaker 1: a question? Which one did you respect the most the
Speaker 1: answers you got, Which one did the best to help
Speaker 1: you do your job? I think Zach, they all answered
Speaker 1: the questions fine. I think Zach though, as the offensive
Speaker 1: captains standing up and saying we have to play better,
Speaker 1: that there's no question of that. To me. That's that's
Speaker 1: a captain standing up and saying like it's on us
Speaker 1: as much as it is the coaches, and and when
Speaker 1: management makes a decision for an offensive line that is
Speaker 1: considered the strength of the team, it's got to fall
Speaker 1: on us to some degree. So I'd say, Zach Martin
Speaker 1: m then we will agree to disagree on that. I
Speaker 1: tend to you know me, and agree with Mickey. That's
Speaker 1: like oil and water. As crazy as Mickey sounds, I
Speaker 1: have to agree with him. Thank you very much. Brian
Speaker 1: brought us so. I didn't like the bill. No that
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I to me, I I
Speaker 1: think that the fact the matter is, yeah, they have
Speaker 1: to play better. But there were some clearly some issues
Speaker 1: there there were. You know, I'm not saying anybody wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, I'm on everybody. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: sure does at some point, Sure it does. But it
Speaker 1: also fall it also, you know, hey, it falls on
Speaker 1: the general manager and the coaching staff are hiring the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, because if you're if you're trying to bring
Speaker 1: a guy in here that's gonna try and change everything
Speaker 1: that everybody, everything that they've done, shame on you. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: it starts at the top two though, But I applaud
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith for saying that though you know, it's a
Speaker 1: bad fit. Obviously eight weeks in, you know, they got
Speaker 1: rid of this guy. What's the biggest difference technique wise
Speaker 1: between the way Paul Alexander coached the offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: the let's say, the Hudson Howk technique, Like let's like Bill,
Speaker 1: Let's let's push something aside here real quick. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is Mark Colombo's room, right, Let's not talk about Hudson HOWK.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about Hudson how the legendary coach
Speaker 1: and what he was. Hudson HOWK is here to observe
Speaker 1: and to help. This is Mark Colombo's room. This is
Speaker 1: this is let's every I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out there like, oh, they're gonna go back to
Speaker 1: what they did at the Super Bowl no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is Hudson Howk is just here to kind of
Speaker 1: make sure that Mark Colombo is a sounding board guy.
Speaker 1: Do you think what's the difference. Okay, now I'll get
Speaker 1: to I'm sorry about I just didn't mean to lecture
Speaker 1: you're there, but I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: out there are Hudson how No, no, this is Mark
Speaker 1: Colombo's gig. Now, this is his gig. Either this team's
Speaker 1: either this offensive line is going to get better or
Speaker 1: it's not right. And so the difference, though, I think
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see is I just think an overall technique.
Speaker 1: Overall technique, and mainly as in past protection, we've talked
Speaker 1: about the high hand low hand. We've talked about okay,
Speaker 1: how do you place your feet? How do you say
Speaker 1: when you watch the Cowboys? When you watch the Cowboys play.
Speaker 1: Previously it's been about punch, and it's been about knee bend.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be about it's about inside hands and sitting
Speaker 1: down on your guy. You know, when you play high
Speaker 1: hand low hand, you're looking for control. The other way
Speaker 1: to play this is you're trying to control the guy
Speaker 1: by getting to him and getting your hands on him,
Speaker 1: not just kind of pushing him past and holding him
Speaker 1: in place. That's not gonna be that. It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: This new way, I think is more about physical lady
Speaker 1: than it is about hand placement. This is about punching him,
Speaker 1: holding him and sitting down on him and being that
Speaker 1: that type of a player. So Nate Newton as a
Speaker 1: casual observer, I guess Drew Drew Pearson. He pointed it
Speaker 1: out last night. He was talking about talking to Harvey
Speaker 1: Martin and asking Harvey, what do you like or what
Speaker 1: do you hate of an opposing offensive lineman, And he said,
Speaker 1: I hate when they're aggressive at me, when they're coming
Speaker 1: at me. I'd rather them trying to catch me because
Speaker 1: I can beat him if they're catching. And I think
Speaker 1: Nate pointing and Nate Newton was on Cowboys Insider, which
Speaker 1: you might be able to find on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: If not, it's on Fox Sports Southwest. He was pointing
Speaker 1: out the difference and he was great and described and
Speaker 1: he was talking. He basically said, it's a difference between
Speaker 1: catching and punching, right, and the Paul Alexander technique is
Speaker 1: to catch the pass rusher and this is all pass
Speaker 1: protection we're talking about here, catching the pass rusher and
Speaker 1: reacting basically right, well mirror yeah, which and of course
Speaker 1: Nate played for Hudson howk And it's the punch, it's
Speaker 1: being more aggressive, keep them on the line of scrimmage, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Darryl Johnston was there, and Darryl said, well, that
Speaker 1: makes sense when they're having difficulties in handling stunts and
Speaker 1: Swiss And so when you're playing a technique where you
Speaker 1: are basically in retreat mode as as opposed to proactive, right,
Speaker 1: and that's going to you're going to be imbalanced on
Speaker 1: your on your offensive line asgar as handling twists and
Speaker 1: stunts and so forth, and you're going to have difficulties there.
Speaker 1: And so that explains a lot of that. Now, the
Speaker 1: question is, all right, obviously, with any offensive lineman, you're
Speaker 1: practicing your technique on a daily basis, and so if
Speaker 1: you're if you're switching back to the other technique, how
Speaker 1: does that affect Monday's game? I mean, how quickly can
Speaker 1: you go back to the other technique. There's only one
Speaker 1: guy that's a rookie out perfected, but yeah, there's only
Speaker 1: one guy that left guard he's the only guy that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but but he's also played at a high level collegiately.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he's coming from Mama Thur,
Speaker 1: you know, Hobart College or someplace like that. This guy's
Speaker 1: played it. You know, he he understands that. Okay, I've
Speaker 1: got to get my hands on these guys, especially him,
Speaker 1: when you don't play with power and you're trying to
Speaker 1: catch people all day and ain't a good recipe. Right there,
Speaker 1: they're getting the first Yeah. Yeah, he's he's trying to
Speaker 1: place his hands when he's not strong to begin with.
Speaker 1: He end up on his butt. Yeah. Give me, give
Speaker 1: me a guy, get you know what, Paul Alexander Ay
Speaker 1: twenty four years, great career, Nice job. You're a bad
Speaker 1: fit here. You were a bad fit here. You're not this.
Speaker 1: This to me is this offensive line is based on power.
Speaker 1: It's based on ability to get athletes with power. And
Speaker 1: if you take the ability to use their power away
Speaker 1: from them the way they are, you got no shot.
Speaker 1: You remember, no shot? You remember what Nate pointed out
Speaker 1: to us last year. With um Layle Collins moving to
Speaker 1: right tackle for Hatton, played there since twenty fourteen, and
Speaker 1: Nate was the first one to realize this guy's left handed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to watch and he can't. He's got
Speaker 1: to punch with his right hand. He keeps his left. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so now you're probably not punching anymore. You're you're catching.
Speaker 1: And after you know, he kind of got it those
Speaker 1: last six eight games of the season making that transition
Speaker 1: with the left hand to the right hand, and they
Speaker 1: were punching. Well, there wasn't a lot of punching going on.
Speaker 1: How many times did we see Lyle Collins on the
Speaker 1: holding penalties where it's he looks just out of whack,
Speaker 1: you know, his hands are all messed up. I must
Speaker 1: used a bad word there, sorry, but you know he
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was off balance, off balance? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: this to me. You watched the tape and we all
Speaker 1: watched the games. We watched the games. You're saying, what's
Speaker 1: the problem, and you think kind of his technique's bad?
Speaker 1: All right, here's my question. And I agree it was
Speaker 1: a bad fit, no doubt about it. That's why you're
Speaker 1: not going to be as evil as me. It's why
Speaker 1: they made the move. But as a former offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: do you snap your fingers and say, because muscle memory
Speaker 1: kicks in at some point, right, I've been doing this
Speaker 1: for how many months? And then you just switch back
Speaker 1: to doing what you used to do. Alexander in that
Speaker 1: interview said he's got some guys trying it and some
Speaker 1: guy's not. If I'm not mistaken about that, ye, yeah.
Speaker 1: What happens you go into survival mode when things aren't working?
Speaker 1: What do you do? I think he used this example
Speaker 1: the other day. I guess maybe not here Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: They could teach him to throw the football all day,
Speaker 1: but what happens when he gets into a game he
Speaker 1: goes back to what revert back? That goes back to
Speaker 1: your muscle memory. Tyrn Smith, Hey, I want you to
Speaker 1: punch the hell out of Casey this week. I want
Speaker 1: you to sit him on the line and punch him
Speaker 1: when he comes your direction. And when you pass that
Speaker 1: twist stunt over to Connor Williams, I want you to
Speaker 1: take your two hands and shove him as hard as
Speaker 1: you can into Connor william And then when that looper
Speaker 1: comes around, I want you to hit that guy right
Speaker 1: in the chest with your right hand. Okay, don't catch him,
Speaker 1: hit him as hard as you can with your right hand.
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith will remember that, he'll remember that seeing the
Speaker 1: other thing. And I don't think it was all only
Speaker 1: about technique. I think it was just the room. It
Speaker 1: was a bad fit in the room. How tight were
Speaker 1: those games. Let's remember how tight they are. They would
Speaker 1: all walk out together to practice the first day of
Speaker 1: training camp. They would walk out single file to practice
Speaker 1: right and their own way. They had their own swagger
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, they don't have that anyhow, and they
Speaker 1: were tight. And I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they didn't let him in or what happened, but there
Speaker 1: was just a disconnect there. And you know, you can
Speaker 1: blame the as Brian said, the head coach for hire
Speaker 1: him or however they decided to come around to make
Speaker 1: that move. But it wasn't working. So give them credit
Speaker 1: for exactly. Let's not keep the exactly I'm just doing something.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, Mickey, because that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's the way it needs to be. You know, if
Speaker 1: someone steps up and says, hey, by the way, this
Speaker 1: receiver by committee not working. Yeah, I'm gonna go help
Speaker 1: you here. Hey, offensive line not playing well? Boy, I've
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money on this offensive line highdraft picks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you here. Here we go. Somebody told
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones that, and in his own eyes, he's looking
Speaker 1: at that offensive line saying something is not right with
Speaker 1: that group. They identified the two areas they felt like
Speaker 1: we're holding them back the most offensively, and did something
Speaker 1: about it in the bye week for different and different ways,
Speaker 1: and we'll see if it works. They went and got
Speaker 1: a guy that can go make plays down the field,
Speaker 1: and then now they got a new voice in the
Speaker 1: room with their most important position, so we'll see if
Speaker 1: it works or a louder voice. I'll tell you this though,
Speaker 1: and I think Mickey will agree with me on this one.
Speaker 1: If the offensive line doesn't play better in the second half,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a whole lot of other changes going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't mean to say that in
Speaker 1: a way. I mean just saying, no, the evaluation, the evaluation.
Speaker 1: They need this offensive line to carry this team in
Speaker 1: the second half. They have got to protect better, they've
Speaker 1: got to run the ball better, they've got to be
Speaker 1: more consistent. If this is the change that gets that going,
Speaker 1: I applaud them. I applaud him for making the switch anyway,
Speaker 1: But I'm on say this offensive line, and I think
Speaker 1: he's been saying it. And again he's right on this.
Speaker 1: He's not the only one he's been saying it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: well I mean in a way, but not not in here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think everybody saw there. They were struggling.
Speaker 1: But the narrative, but the narrative out there has been
Speaker 1: about the receivers more than it is about about the offensive.
Speaker 1: It's been about the quarterback, and it's been about the
Speaker 1: plate caller, and it's been about the head coach. And
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Speaker 1: That was a sixty six to fifty nine Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: over Patrick Mahomes game that I guess it wasn't last year.
Speaker 1: It was year before. Yeah, it was crazy two years before, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two years ago. Okay, yeah, in Lubbock last time I played.
Speaker 1: Where's the game on Saturday? It's in Lubbock, all right,
Speaker 1: get the tortillas ready. I'm pretty sure the Ou quarterback
Speaker 1: can do what Baker Mayfield did, but I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: guy played against Iowa stayed. He had a little some
Speaker 1: struggles throwing that ball. Defensive coordinator doing ruffin McNeil, Yes,
Speaker 1: who's had a win going back to Lubbock. Yeah, doing
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Speaker 1: Jim is in California and he is first up on
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Hello Jim, Good morning, Bill. Good to have
Speaker 1: you back. Missed you yesterday. Well thank you. I know
Speaker 1: they really floundered yesterday without man water Man. There you go. Hey.
Speaker 1: I'm a Garrett fan. I like what he's done. Player
Speaker 1: acquisitions seem to be a committee decision based on salary
Speaker 1: cap and draft and and what those around you say
Speaker 1: you can do, so you're kind of handcuffs. But coaching decisions,
Speaker 1: it seems to me as a novice observer, are just
Speaker 1: Garrett decisions. And it seems like he got rid of
Speaker 1: a great coach who is doing a good job because
Speaker 1: a personality conflict or something that sounds Yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: like to me, this is the one decision that can
Speaker 1: fall on him. Could if it goes south the rest
Speaker 1: of the season could in my opinion, is when where
Speaker 1: he could be held accountable job wise. You talk about
Speaker 1: Frank Pollock, you talk about Pollock, I'm talking about Garrett.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, oh yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 1: think Pollock was the guy before Alexander was really good.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was getting it on, he was getting
Speaker 1: it done, and no one says you have to get
Speaker 1: along personality wise and in the office. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what it's for you. You bounce things off each other
Speaker 1: and you, you know, you bur up on each other
Speaker 1: until you come to a resolution. But the product on
Speaker 1: the field was awesome, and that's a Garrett decision. It
Speaker 1: wasn't awesome the second half of the season. Second half.
Speaker 1: There happened the second half. Yeah, And you can also
Speaker 1: say that the competition was tougher in the second half.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other variables there, but sure, I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. They didn't play Green Bay or
Speaker 1: the Rams the second half Yeah, good point, Mickey. Look
Speaker 1: at this Taving Austin twenty eight, Cope easily twenty nine,
Speaker 1: Giunte Thompson twenty nine, Transplarens twenty nine. The Cooper trade
Speaker 1: is a youth movement, and that's a great thing. I think,
Speaker 1: along with Gallup and Cedric Wilson, Lanser Noor, there's some
Speaker 1: youth there that's exciting. A question I have for you
Speaker 1: is next year, are we so far under the cap
Speaker 1: that we can secure Jones and Lawrence and others that
Speaker 1: are doing well in their contract here. Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my call. Yes, get him capologists. Yes, yes, they can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can probably if things go well in nine
Speaker 1: games extend Amari Cooper and lower his cap hit. That
Speaker 1: would be just fourteen million on a straight if you
Speaker 1: think you know. If you don't know, then you absorb it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they can do that, and you probably have
Speaker 1: some money to go out and spec. There you go, Bill,
Speaker 1: Can you you allow me the Florida Yes, go for it.
Speaker 1: Could this be without a first round pick and the
Speaker 1: fact that they did use their first round pick to
Speaker 1: get this receiver, which Mickey just talked about. Could we
Speaker 1: see them a little bit of a change not only
Speaker 1: signing their own, but maybe going out and getting another
Speaker 1: free agent guy, um signing somebody. I mean, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit different philosophy than what we've seen out of
Speaker 1: the past. Yeah. What are they under the cap right now?
Speaker 1: A lot? I mean it's it was such a fluid,
Speaker 1: I know, but it was at one point it was
Speaker 1: like eighteen nineteen million bucks. Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, Now
Speaker 1: again dak is eligible for that extension. Sure, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they're going to do there. They have another
Speaker 1: year if they so choose to do that seven million
Speaker 1: according to over the Kip, okay, right now, that's a
Speaker 1: good un you'll carry it further. Yeah, Now, DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: is going to carry a heavy cap number, whether you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna franchise him again. No, well,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be franchise, doesn't does. It's an
Speaker 1: option obviously, and Byron Jones is playing like a number
Speaker 1: one corner, So that's a lot of money to tie up.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so I'm wrong thinking they might go
Speaker 1: out and get some think I think if there's if,
Speaker 1: if it makes sense, I don't think he just goes
Speaker 1: spending No, no, no, no, Okay, let me let me
Speaker 1: I keep my I keep my dream alive for Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas for a couple of years. Yeah, I'm keeping my
Speaker 1: dream alive for him if it's reasonable, if it's what
Speaker 1: if it turns into an eight million dollar a year thing, Mickey,
Speaker 1: You okay with that eight million eight for him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Eight or nine million a year for three years? Say,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he let's see how bad he wants
Speaker 1: to play, keep I keep gona dream of you worried
Speaker 1: the fact that I think it was freaky got hurt? Okay,
Speaker 1: But he's getting close to thirty, right, Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is like I think he's the one the sec third
Speaker 1: He's like, this is the second or third year and
Speaker 1: not in a row, but in these last I understand, hurt.
Speaker 1: I understand, but I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna gamble
Speaker 1: on him. The type of player he is. And I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Mickey. I I it's it's bad
Speaker 1: management on my part, But I'm holding that dream alive
Speaker 1: for for a two three year run. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: holding it for that type of a player. You know,
Speaker 1: I understand signing my own because I want to sign
Speaker 1: my own. But if I could go out and get
Speaker 1: a guy, I mean, I feel like I could go
Speaker 1: out and get is would he be the best position
Speaker 1: fit that you would have tight end? Yeah? But who
Speaker 1: are you gonna Well, I don't know what I know.
Speaker 1: I know what if somebody says I can't pay this
Speaker 1: tight end, I end could be more of your draft
Speaker 1: focus potentially too. That's kind of what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was thinking more of a second round And I
Speaker 1: know that the history of the second round tight end
Speaker 1: here is I mean you you weren't. Yeah, you're right
Speaker 1: about that, you know, And if they don't have Witten
Speaker 1: taking ninety six percent of the snaps anymore, either, I'm
Speaker 1: hopeful of I'm hopeful of Dalton Schultz, I really am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I'm hopeful to him. And Swain has been
Speaker 1: solid when he's been healthy. Um, I just I don't
Speaker 1: know if you'd want to go out and overspend on
Speaker 1: a veteran tight end. Well, the other part of the
Speaker 1: rookie tight end coming in, whether it's as high as
Speaker 1: second round pick, there's a learning curve and you know
Speaker 1: you can expect even like with the Michael gallup this year,
Speaker 1: the first half of the year, it's not going to
Speaker 1: be the same as what the surely the second half
Speaker 1: of the year will be. And so you basically have
Speaker 1: what you have right now unless you're going to get
Speaker 1: a veteran guy in here. As far as a tight
Speaker 1: end position, trying to think, I want to help these
Speaker 1: guys grow, and you know, I'm trying to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'd like to pay Byron Jones if I could, I'd
Speaker 1: like to. Yeh. I think that's been I think that's
Speaker 1: one of those things that's kind of been gone in
Speaker 1: a good direction there, you know. And I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay Lawrence. I mean, and those are
Speaker 1: two I guess my point is, yeah, you can. You
Speaker 1: can still have money to spend probably, but those are
Speaker 1: two primo positions that cost a lot of money, right
Speaker 1: if they're gonna get paid like top guys, and you
Speaker 1: know Lawrence is gonna want big time money. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: can you get can you get? You think you can
Speaker 1: get the safety for a deal? So do you look
Speaker 1: at it as a necessity or a luxury? The safe? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a good question, because I though I'd like to
Speaker 1: have him playing in that secondary. I just I just
Speaker 1: thought I just had a vision to him being back
Speaker 1: there and making plays and creating turnovers and things like that.
Speaker 1: I just, you know, and I was hopeful that, you know,
Speaker 1: they can make the trade. They didn't make the trade,
Speaker 1: it might work out better for him that they didn't
Speaker 1: make the trade. Number Two scoring defense. One thing missing
Speaker 1: is takeaways, right That's the That's the biggest difference between
Speaker 1: them and the Washington Redskins right now. I mean you
Speaker 1: look at you look at the Redskins there right down
Speaker 1: the line of everything about their team, with the exception
Speaker 1: of turnovers as well as they played defensively, They've got
Speaker 1: six takeaways, and it's I think there's like two or
Speaker 1: three teams below them. I'm paying a guy to go
Speaker 1: get me some turnovers. Maybe they can't get turners. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm dreaming, but I know it's offseason talk, but I'm
Speaker 1: just asking the question, will we see a change in philosophy?
Speaker 1: And the Maidens have thirteen takeaways? Yes, here you go.
Speaker 1: That is the biggest difference between them being five and
Speaker 1: two and you being three and four. That's what it
Speaker 1: is right there. What one takeaway for sure? Yeah, that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the one in the end zone. Okay, the follow him
Speaker 1: there for a second between three and four and four
Speaker 1: and three. Right now, that's right, all right, Let's go
Speaker 1: to Berry in Virginia next up here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hello Berry, Harry, thank you for taking a call um
Speaker 1: comment and question. I listened to you every day. It
Speaker 1: seems like the offensive line, the receivers, and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff take a lot of especially coaching staff take a
Speaker 1: lot of the blame for what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 1: Put the quarterback in there too. That's where I was going. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kie year had a great year. But everything fell into place,
Speaker 1: but they still did not if you looked at every game,
Speaker 1: they didn't throw the ball down the field wheel every
Speaker 1: now and then, who throw one up to Diz and
Speaker 1: it worked out. M My question is who who makes
Speaker 1: the decision to jettison Romo? And that this is your
Speaker 1: guy back when he was a rookie. And don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, he seems like a great guy and he's
Speaker 1: the type guy you could root for. But he holds
Speaker 1: the ball so long. And you don't have to be
Speaker 1: a rocket science to figure this out. If you the
Speaker 1: Cleveland game when they put the rookie in that night,
Speaker 1: they kept talking about the offensive line was so bad.
Speaker 1: But then when they switched Tyrod Taylor and one to
Speaker 1: the other quarterback, he drops back backfoot, hits the ball's gone.
Speaker 1: Then the offensive line is good. Everything is better. And
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, how far do you go before you
Speaker 1: say how far do you stick with that? Before do
Speaker 1: you get rid of the coaching staff? The offensive line
Speaker 1: gets old, You're running back gets a little older, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we don't We don't have a quarterback here that can
Speaker 1: do it. I have a question, though, sir, but when
Speaker 1: when he when he was winning the thirteen games, were
Speaker 1: you just biting your tongue or biting your lip and
Speaker 1: just kind of going with it? I mean, are you
Speaker 1: such a Romo fan that? And I'm I'm asking a
Speaker 1: set of respect. I'm not trying to belittle you or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm just I'm asking you. I'm asking
Speaker 1: you in a way of is it always been a
Speaker 1: struggle for you that they never helped Romo in any way?
Speaker 1: Not so much. I mean I always felt like he
Speaker 1: had not only did he not have a lot of help,
Speaker 1: but he had to deal with some whackos on top
Speaker 1: of that. But the point, the point is no, when
Speaker 1: he was winning, I was I was thinking, you know what,
Speaker 1: they struck gold twice, they got the was a free
Speaker 1: agent and this guy in the fourth round, and and
Speaker 1: all NFL teams struggle to find quarterbacks forever. And that's
Speaker 1: what That's what I thought it was. But but watching
Speaker 1: it now, for this is a third year, and like
Speaker 1: I said, maybe something can improve, but he just he
Speaker 1: holds the ball just you know, and it's a it's
Speaker 1: a matter of a half second. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: you know, a minute, it's a half second every play
Speaker 1: that you just got to let it go. The guys
Speaker 1: that the guys that do it well and the guys
Speaker 1: that consistently win, they let it go. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just what I'm saying is I you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know or if y'all could even say
Speaker 1: if it was Garrett's choice, you know, they'll go on
Speaker 1: with this quarterback somebody else, And then who holds that
Speaker 1: responsibility down the line? And how do you blame the
Speaker 1: coach and staff for all that you know, the same
Speaker 1: offensive coordinated then as it is now true And I
Speaker 1: watched I watched games, and I get frustrated sometimes on
Speaker 1: what the play calling is. But I think everybody on
Speaker 1: every the roots for any team does at times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let me let me point out that quarterback in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: the one, the one that could so quickly pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: He's been sacked twenty times, twenty times five starts, he's
Speaker 1: got six interceptions, He's completed fifty eight percent of his passes,
Speaker 1: and he has a yards per attempt of six point six.
Speaker 1: You don't have an offensive line in front of you,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how quickly all the rookie quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: been exactly. Look, that's another thing. This is not his
Speaker 1: third year either. Yeah, you know, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: go with the I'm not just comparing him directly that
Speaker 1: it was just that one particular game you could just
Speaker 1: sit there and watch when when the other quarterback went
Speaker 1: out of the game he came in. Same guys, Well,
Speaker 1: that's the way he plays, that's his game. My point is,
Speaker 1: and I'm the biggest Baker Mayfield, and there is when
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an offensive line in front of him,
Speaker 1: he's not going to be effective. And the same thing
Speaker 1: has happened for Dak this year compared to his rookie season,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same offensive line in front, say
Speaker 1: twenty three sacks, but not this year. Yeah, and no, no, no,
Speaker 1: being respectful of your points that you're making two is
Speaker 1: because I think he got great points on him holding
Speaker 1: the ball and so forth. Yeah, and it's just a
Speaker 1: kind sign of a process. Let's see if, in fact,
Speaker 1: though that the receivers, if they can you know, we've
Speaker 1: asked them to kind of pair some things down. Let's
Speaker 1: see if you could get no, get Gallop going, get
Speaker 1: Hearn's going, you know, get get the new guy going,
Speaker 1: you know, find a way you've got Beasley kind of going,
Speaker 1: you know, And and let's see if the offensive line
Speaker 1: in fact with Mark Colombo will be a little bit different.
Speaker 1: As far as protection, I just think there's some things
Speaker 1: that you know, you're probably not going to be able
Speaker 1: to totally change anticipations and things like that. But hey,
Speaker 1: if you help him, he's proven that he can he
Speaker 1: can win games, so you have to find ways to
Speaker 1: help him. Does his presence reduce the let's factor? Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper's yeah, you hope, Yeah, you hope eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: the guy that got the game winning the game winning drive.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what happened in that game. It
Speaker 1: was just the first pace they went down, they scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then it was really the end of
Speaker 1: the game. But they were losing the whole game and
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins came in and I think lit them up.
Speaker 1: Huh okay, and boy where they fired up after that
Speaker 1: vict It was, it was, it was a big victory
Speaker 1: for So now what do they have to that one
Speaker 1: and regular season? Yeah, they're there there, I said too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're on the line for to be the team with
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Oh, yeah, that's what they're
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Speaker 1: I will. I've got to speak Mickey, and I've got
Speaker 1: to speak at Star Sports on Sunday one, fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: If anybody wants to verses, come by right here at
Speaker 1: the Omni Boy, we had some combative folks and the
Speaker 1: Jackson what like, how combative? What were they? Mickey handles
Speaker 1: them very well. Is the questions. They will ask some
Speaker 1: seriously tough questions, and you know you want to give,
Speaker 1: like we're tombout being honest, give honest answers. Mickey always says, fire,
Speaker 1: fire the coach, Yeah, fire the quarterback, fire the GM
Speaker 1: fire Mickey and me get rid of us. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: how can you want to become a part of this?
Speaker 1: How can someone come with a part of us? How
Speaker 1: can someone be apologize how we became? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: How can a fan a star sports Tour? Sports tours
Speaker 1: dot com I believe is the website. Check it out, okay,
Speaker 1: and you can. You can come in here and rip
Speaker 1: Mickey and I get it. Get a ticket and find us,
Speaker 1: find us and it's worse than one fifteen on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Face to face. Us usually do it the day before
Speaker 1: the game. It actually it actually goes from probably twelve
Speaker 1: thirty or one to about three o'clock because the players
Speaker 1: come in and and do autographs and they get good players. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith has been there, the last couple of Layton,
Speaker 1: Vander esh Tyrone Crawford. Yeah. Wow, man, very good. We
Speaker 1: go in there and we take all the hard, hard
Speaker 1: questions though me and Mickey. Do you interview the players? No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: We all they gotta do is sign okay, yeah. All
Speaker 1: they get to do yeah yeah, and then we do
Speaker 1: it on the road. Also, there's a little meet and
Speaker 1: greet after Jalen Smith signs. And that website again, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing it's Star Sports Tours dot Com. There you go,
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Bill, good job, wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that you got it. We gotta get a
Speaker 1: full house nowial sponsor of the team. That's right, all right?
Speaker 1: How much does this Cowboys team miss Jason Witten this year? Here,
Speaker 1: I'll answer that question Monday night when there's no Jeff
Speaker 1: Swain if he's not ready to play. Now. You know,
Speaker 1: by the way, we finally hear from Jason Garrett for
Speaker 1: the first time this week right after talking Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: I do think he missed Jason Winton. I do think
Speaker 1: you missed that, that guy with the ability to work
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and I think you miss
Speaker 1: him in those situations where you're trying to convert for
Speaker 1: so many downs you've been bad on third down. Where's
Speaker 1: the play action game? Yeah, but they've had some they've
Speaker 1: had some problems too with some of the penalties and
Speaker 1: setbacks and things like that. They'd probably have hurt them
Speaker 1: in that regard. But if you could get those manageable
Speaker 1: down and distant situations, that number eighty two was one
Speaker 1: of the best, he might not be able. You know,
Speaker 1: the run after catch might not be what it once was.
Speaker 1: You get him down the red zone where he could
Speaker 1: play within eighteen yards. He does a great job of
Speaker 1: finding space. Smart guy knew where how to position himself.
Speaker 1: They haven't had a lot of opportunities down there with that.
Speaker 1: How much I'm trying to think, how much have they
Speaker 1: even thrown to a tight end in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. A lot of swains has been kind of
Speaker 1: bailout stuff near the sideline. He's donned the little he
Speaker 1: made the one handed catch in Houston. Did he make
Speaker 1: a one handed catch that got a first down? Swam
Speaker 1: caught the ball basically off the ground. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great catch. No, No, we just haven't
Speaker 1: seen We haven't seen him attack the middle of the
Speaker 1: field with the tight end. A lot of waggles, boots
Speaker 1: and what was his bread and butter, master of sitting
Speaker 1: down in that zone underneath and finding a soft spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Romo pointed out that they're using Beasley in that
Speaker 1: in that role now that he's running that Witten route
Speaker 1: where he can get the release either way, what they've
Speaker 1: missed is him getting down the hash down the field
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Yeah, that's what they miss
Speaker 1: the seam route. But if you think about it last year,
Speaker 1: probably about this time, it's like, Wow, Whitten's not running
Speaker 1: the way he used to and he's not getting down
Speaker 1: the field, and his average per catch is going down.
Speaker 1: And now when he goes away, it's like, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: how good was he? Same thing with Romo, right, Oh
Speaker 1: how good was he? And went away? And now it's like, well,
Speaker 1: can Romo come back and play? Well. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it has to do Mickey, and I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I think it has to do with
Speaker 1: just getting six seven yards. You know, when they're not
Speaker 1: when they haven't been able to run the football, it's
Speaker 1: finding ways to get over. Yeah, just find it. Give me,
Speaker 1: give me six seven yards. I don't need your run
Speaker 1: after catch, I need six or seven yards. Well, how
Speaker 1: much are they releasing the tight end and not keeping
Speaker 1: in to help the offensive line. That is a fair
Speaker 1: point too. It's the run fakes and then throwing to
Speaker 1: the tight end where he's wide open. Yeah, that's been missing.
Speaker 1: I think you really miss him in the red zone myself, Zach.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right about the same stuff and his
Speaker 1: ability to find space down there when when people when
Speaker 1: other receivers can't find space. Jason Winton, for as slow
Speaker 1: and lumbersome as he was lumbering, he you know, he
Speaker 1: had an ability to kind of an not a guy
Speaker 1: one way, get him off balance and then work to
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And he's been always made
Speaker 1: secure catches. You miss that, You missed somebody that's making
Speaker 1: secure catches to get you six seven, eight yards, but
Speaker 1: also a guy that can play in the red zone
Speaker 1: to get you a secure catch as well. That being said,
Speaker 1: Cole is off to a good start here. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at what his numbers are averaging out
Speaker 1: to be, he's on pace to match his career high
Speaker 1: from last year seventy five catches. That's where he's on
Speaker 1: pace for. He's gonna keep going. So the hope is,
Speaker 1: you know, Mary's presence can either free him up more
Speaker 1: or they can just play off of each other, and
Speaker 1: you gotta pick your poison a little bit there. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to hear Witten's comments though about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense um during the game on Monday night.
Speaker 1: He felt like that the that the Cowboys won the
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper trade, he feels like that that's gonna help him.
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen some comments that he's been made,
Speaker 1: he made about it, so you know he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: honest about it, though it'll be it'll be a if
Speaker 1: he can get a word. Yeah, this is saying LS,
Speaker 1: you guys talk too much. I don't think that's what
Speaker 1: he meant. Yeah, but I just feel like though that
Speaker 1: to me that you know, he'll he'll be honest about
Speaker 1: the offense, He'll be honest about the assessment. And I
Speaker 1: think you're going to get a good broadcast too, because
Speaker 1: he'll be able to identify what the cows if you
Speaker 1: like Tony Romo and the way he kind of calls
Speaker 1: plays and goes along that way and kind of tells
Speaker 1: you what they're looking at. I think Jason Witten will
Speaker 1: be really good at this as well, for this game.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of funny. I was reading the
Speaker 1: Tennessee and this morning and the complaint in Nashville now
Speaker 1: play that their receiving corps is not very good and
Speaker 1: why didn't we go and get a wide receiver like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did and they were there, their comparison was,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, they gave up a first round pick,
Speaker 1: but look what they got. Yeah, the t the Titans
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. Look what Houston did. They're in the division.
Speaker 1: Look what they got and the Titans did nothing. There's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver out there for him if they want him. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Does he want to play I don't know, that's the question.
Speaker 1: Or does he want to play for anybody besides this team? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: that's a fair question. I don't know. For a couple
Speaker 1: million dollars I go play in Alaska, You know it
Speaker 1: would behoove him, couldn't you. It would didn't intend to
Speaker 1: get on desk talk here, but it would behoove him.
Speaker 1: If he wants to continue his NFL career after this year,
Speaker 1: it would behoove him to accept whatever offer the next
Speaker 1: for the next couple of months and swallow his pride
Speaker 1: and do it. I think Nicky is giving you some
Speaker 1: great insight, bill Ya. I don't think des Bryant really
Speaker 1: wants to play, right, I don't think he wants to
Speaker 1: play for anybody other than the Dallas Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: I think this is this has always been his home.
Speaker 1: This is the ownership gave him an opportunity when a
Speaker 1: lot of people remember his seat or his last year
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State didn't even play get yeah, he got
Speaker 1: drafted off that off three games, like Mickey said, So
Speaker 1: you know, this ownership has had a lot has covered
Speaker 1: his back in a lot of different ways off the
Speaker 1: field on the field. So you know, he has a
Speaker 1: sense of loyalty. That's the one of the thing about
Speaker 1: Dez Bryan I think is one of his greatest traits
Speaker 1: is his loyalty. He really really does. And I think
Speaker 1: if you asked him right now, he would say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I wish I was more loyal to Tony
Speaker 1: Romo when all that was going on, But you know what,
Speaker 1: he was an incredible player for this franchise. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's got other things in life. He's looking at and
Speaker 1: if the fact that he doesn't want to go play
Speaker 1: in Cleveland or New Orleans, or Tennessee or in these
Speaker 1: other places, I don't blame him at all. I don't
Speaker 1: blame him. He's you know, hopefully he's doing exactly what
Speaker 1: he wants to do. All Right, we have a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes left here on Talking Cowboys. What direction you
Speaker 1: would you like to go for the final two minutes
Speaker 1: of this edition of Talking Cowboys? What are we looking
Speaker 1: for from Jason Garrett in his press conference today? He
Speaker 1: has not the media has not had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: ask him about the offensive lying situation his trip to
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium. We're got to hit up that again. You
Speaker 1: know what I would be I guarantee you he's gonna
Speaker 1: be asked about it. Yeah, that's a walk off question.
Speaker 1: To walk off to walk off question, I bet not.
Speaker 1: I bet I bet something producer, producers to exactly not
Speaker 1: this one. But okay, I just you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of ground to cover. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to do his best to focus in on
Speaker 1: talking about the Titans and what they need to do
Speaker 1: second half of the season. You know, hey, I've got
Speaker 1: to you know, we've made some changes here. We've got
Speaker 1: to you know, get guys acclimated. You got to get
Speaker 1: things going, you know. You know, I think that's what
Speaker 1: he's really gonna try and focus on. Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if there's more insight about Paul Alexander.
Speaker 1: He's never done this, he's never made a coach and
Speaker 1: change in the middle of the season, and and you know,
Speaker 1: how's it going to change? What's gonna be different? We
Speaker 1: try to speculate it, see if we can get an
Speaker 1: answer out of it. That's gonna be the heart of it.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be the firing of Paul Alexander. But he's
Speaker 1: gonna get well, is it? Then the question will be
Speaker 1: are you Are you saying then the offensive line was
Speaker 1: the problem? That sure? Yeah, And then he'll say it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. And I think it's not
Speaker 1: wrong by saying that, but certainly the line's part of it.
Speaker 1: Should got him a head coaching job like they got.
Speaker 1: John Blake's nicky and I spend a day trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who the last coach was a gout. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they at the end of the season, John Blake, John Blake,
Speaker 1: Things turned out well for us. We eventually got Bob
Speaker 1: Stoops there, and we eventually got Lincoln Riley, and we
Speaker 1: eventually will be back here on Talking Cowboys tomorrow morning
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