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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And University of Massachusetts Amherst Paul released Monday,

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Speaker 1: said thirty three percent of respondents approve of the president's

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Speaker 1: job performance. He's on his way worse than Watergate. We

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Speaker 1: have such a great show for you today. To the contraries,

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Speaker 1: Julie Sike stops by and talk about Trump's self inflicted

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Speaker 1: wounds to his presidency. Then we'll talk to Iowa Senate

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Speaker 1: candidate Josh Derrick about his very real chances of becoming

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Speaker 1: Iowa's next senator. But first the news.

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Speaker 2: Smilia, you know I've been doing my due diligence on

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Speaker 2: this podcast. I'm always checking my gas before station before it.

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Speaker 2: We're now almost at double the price of guests since

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Speaker 2: the war started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you will be shocked to know that closing the

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Speaker 1: straits of her mouse, which blocks I think about a

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Speaker 1: quarter of all somewhere between a quarter and a third

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Speaker 1: of all LNG natural gas oil, all of it will

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Speaker 1: make gas more expensive. It is amazing. You make let

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Speaker 1: you put fungible gas, You make them have less and

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Speaker 1: then it gets more expensive and Donald Trump is learning

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Speaker 1: this lesson a thirty five percent increase at the pump

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Speaker 1: since the war began. I will remind you, no one

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Speaker 1: knows why this war is happening, so it is pretty

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Speaker 1: incredible stuff. Twenty percent of the world's oil and gas

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Speaker 1: driving the news. Oil prices have surged one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a barrel since the war began. This is insane. One

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Speaker 1: was bragging about it. A year before that, gas was

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Speaker 1: is just wild we have and you know it's five

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Speaker 1: and a half for diesel price. They're higher on the

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Speaker 1: West coast because it's further away. And you know, this

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Speaker 1: is just all again as we talk about with Charlie Sykes,

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Speaker 1: all things that Donald Trump could have avoided had he

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Speaker 1: not done reckless shit. So don't start a war in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. Won't make gas more expensive, you know,

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Speaker 1: cause and effect.

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Speaker 3: Baby Molly.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me like when Trump was bragging about the

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Speaker 2: gas being low, wasn't there someone else in a hearing

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Speaker 2: talking about a marker whatever they needed to change the subject.

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Speaker 1: Am Bondy Ham Bondy goes to speak in front of

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Speaker 1: the Senate. She is yelling at senators and she says,

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Speaker 1: and this reminds me of that another great moment with

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Speaker 1: Jade Vance where jad Vance yells at President Vladimir Zelenski,

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Speaker 1: you didn't even say thank you. So Pambondy, in her

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Speaker 1: President Trump for the dow at fifty thousand. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know where the dow is now? It ain't at fifty thousand.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, it's like forty five.

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Speaker 2: The best is that chart where somebody points out where

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Speaker 2: do it, Pam Bonding Well, speaking of people who are

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Speaker 2: very bad at predictions, Jim Kramer said that this is

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Speaker 1: Hot, right, Jim Kramer said, she it's all priced in

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Speaker 1: for now, so we're in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Team Yeah, as Jeff Blue who starts an out saying

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Speaker 4: Great stuff, great.

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Speaker 1: Stuff, Yeah the best.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of great stuff, the Supreme Court did a decision

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Speaker 2: today that is going to end up impacting a lot

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Speaker 4: They've rejected Colorado's conversion therapy.

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Speaker 1: Then, yeah, I think it's important to remember this is

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Speaker 1: like not just about conversion therapy, which is real bad,

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Speaker 1: but this is also about a Supreme Court that says

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Speaker 1: states have rights except when it comes to things they

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Speaker 1: don't like. So try to like put your hat on

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Speaker 1: it shows just how partisan this court is that this

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Speaker 1: is the only unifying theory of this Supreme Court is

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Speaker 4: Smile. I was watching Marco Rubio talk a bunch yesterday,

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Speaker 4: did a lot of press. The word self awareness really was.

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Speaker 5: Not what it was giving.

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Speaker 1: Play the clip, Play the clip.

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Speaker 2: I have a clip to demonstrate my point here, just

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Speaker 5: Acuetive.

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Speaker 1: I saw this clip.

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Speaker 6: I love this and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: I think that if there are people in Iran who now,

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Speaker 6: different direction for their country, that would be great. Imagine

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Speaker 6: in Iran that in spent instead of spending their wealth

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Speaker 6: billions of dollars supporting terrorist or weapons, had spent that

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Speaker 6: money helping the people of Iran. You have a much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is incredible stuff because you'll remember that we

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Speaker 1: spend billions of dollars on weapons, and we could spend

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Speaker 1: news and all the things that would make our society utopian.

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Speaker 1: My favorite part of this whole thing is that we

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Speaker 1: could have been this had people just voted for the

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Speaker 4: So to put a fine point on how ridiculous and

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Speaker 4: unself aware mister Rubio is as he runs around trying

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Speaker 4: to look presidential, Caroline Levitt, speaking to the press yesterday,

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Speaker 4: says the White House is open to kicking three hundred

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Speaker 1: Yes, I want to talk about how stupid this is

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Speaker 1: First of all, none of this is ever going to

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's all necessary, but why start with this,

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Speaker 1: Why istar with that? This war is super expensive. I

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Speaker 1: Like that's happening at the Pentagon too. They're using very

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Speaker 3: Hey, it is great to be back, good to be anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I feel that so deeply in my bone. I know

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Donald Trump's wildly unsuccessful presidency by

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Speaker 3: This is rightly amazing. This is quite an achievement for

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And I just want to bounce something off

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Speaker 3: is all Trump's decision, These are his choices. He comes

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Speaker 3: into office. The Democrats, who demoralized one institution after another,

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Speaker 3: You know, a normal president could have run with that.

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Speaker 3: What did Donald Trump do? He has squandered the very constituency,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were so many times, and I think he

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Speaker 1: You know, remember that dumb You know, we spent months

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Speaker 1: arguing with that woman from the Republican oppo, Selena Zito,

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Speaker 1: Now, saying that you had to you know, he represented

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Speaker 3: Yes they are, And what did he say that? This morning?

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Speaker 3: But there's also a prime directive that the Trump had,

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Speaker 3: of this right now? I actually had a I won't

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Speaker 3: say it was a heated debate, but it was was intense.

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Speaker 3: I was I was down in Dallas yesterday, as you know,

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Speaker 3: at an event at at Southern Methodist University, beautiful campus

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Speaker 3: by the way, and I was talking to somebody who

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Speaker 3: was I think they were Republican. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: were Maga, but he was. He was asking about, like,

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Speaker 3: how do Neo Kans feel about Iran? Because if if

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Speaker 3: you're not in favor of you know, if something like

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Speaker 3: you know, someone like you, if you're not in favor

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Speaker 3: of what we're doing in Iran, it's just because it's

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I mean, you would be.

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Speaker 1: In favorite Trump derangement syndrome, right.

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Speaker 3: And I pushed back and I said, no, I think

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Speaker 3: that is exactly This is a legitimate point that no

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Speaker 3: matter how you feel about the war, it is legitimate

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Speaker 3: to say you don't do not want to go to

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Speaker 3: war with this man, You do not want to put

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Speaker 3: your sons and daughters' lives at risk under the leadership

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Speaker 3: of Donald Trump, that Donald Trump is uniquely unsuited to

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Speaker 3: be the communit in chief, uniquely dangerous as a war president.

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Speaker 3: So it is not hypocritical and it is not self

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Speaker 3: contradictory for you know, the hawks of the past to say, whoa, no,

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Speaker 3: we do not have to go to war with this president.

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Speaker 3: And I think that is playing out every single day,

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Speaker 3: you know, with even Laura Ingram saying, does does he

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Speaker 3: have the you know, does they have a fucking clue

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Speaker 3: what he's doing?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: I also do think that the you know, nobody has

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Speaker 1: explained to us why we started this war. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are you know, the regime is terrible, but so

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Speaker 1: is what's happening with Putin in Russia and Ukraine. Like

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Speaker 1: Russia just invaded Ukraine. I mean, like if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a war, getting involved in a war, and we

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Speaker 1: did not get into involved in that war, which would

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Speaker 1: have at least made a little bit more sense than

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Speaker 1: just attacking a rant Iran because they might have nukes,

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Speaker 1: but they might not, but we didn't know, but we

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Speaker 1: bombed them, so they're gone. I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 1: did not get a real straight answer on why we

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Speaker 1: were doing this and also if to articulate what victory

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Speaker 1: would look like.

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Speaker 3: One of the big questions is what is Donald Trump's

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Speaker 3: capacity for absorbing pain at this moment. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: he's all in bluster. But but and so far, and

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Speaker 3: I don't want to minimize the damage. I mean, so far,

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Speaker 3: the casualties have been held down. You know, one big

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Speaker 3: incident will change the dynamic completely. Remember what happened in

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Speaker 3: Afghanistan where we had we had a dozen troops who

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Speaker 3: were killed in a single suicide bombing. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what his capacity is, you know, he part of his

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Speaker 3: hubris is that he thinks that you can go in

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Speaker 3: and one and done and it's easy. I mean the

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Speaker 3: fact that he keeps he remember he was kept mentioning Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: You go in and you don't lose anybody. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's clean and and it's done. I think that he

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Speaker 3: was so delusional that he thought the same thing would

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Speaker 3: happen with Iran. And even though anyone who has studied

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Speaker 3: this issue would say Iran and Venezuela are completely different cultures,

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Speaker 3: completely different political environments, the military situation is not is

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Speaker 3: not promparable at all.

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Speaker 1: But also Venezuela. It's not like we went and did

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Speaker 1: regime change. We went and took the president, put him

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Speaker 1: and his wife in jail. Also not entirely clear why, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because he did a dance, because oil, because

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Speaker 1: he's a bad leader. Put him in jail. Now have

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Speaker 1: his vice president in charge, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, But you know, I mean, let's go back

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Speaker 3: to the fact that you know that the Iranian regime

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Speaker 3: are bad guys, and they have they are oppressive, and

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Speaker 3: they're they're an evil regime. Well so is Kim Jong

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Speaker 3: un in in in North Korea and Vladimir Putin and Russia.

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Speaker 3: And these are two of Donald Trump's bfs. So really

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Speaker 3: what we're seeing here is is and I was reading

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Speaker 3: an article describing this as international gangsterism. You know that

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Speaker 3: one of the entire points of post War America and

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Speaker 3: UH and in World War two was to rid the

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Speaker 3: world of the international gangsterism of Germany and Japan, and

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Speaker 3: you create a world order that that had some sort

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Speaker 3: of stability. And what Donald Trump is basically saying is,

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Speaker 3: now let's go back to that. Let's go back to

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Speaker 3: the international gangsterism. And so it's not a matter of principle.

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Speaker 3: We're not a shining city on a hill. We're going

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Speaker 3: to do with with the with the other thugs in

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Speaker 3: the world have done and are getting away with them.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this story of the Russians giving the

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Speaker 3: Iranians specific satellite targeting information of the American based in

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia is I think somewhat underappreciated because Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: continues to you know, look the other way, the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 3: who have tremendous UH intelligence, are saying, look, the evidence

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Speaker 3: is overwhelming that the Russians are now giving the Iranians

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Speaker 3: information to target Americans. I mean, yeah, how is this

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Speaker 3: not and and how and Donald Trump not blinking an eye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he let that rush, He let the Russian

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Speaker 1: oil tanker into Cuba when his whole thing bucket.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay. By the way, now that's interesting because at some point,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're like, nobody's bringing oil to Cuba. Nobody's

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Speaker 3: bringing oil to Cuba. And at some point Vladimir Putin said,

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Speaker 3: we're bringing the oil. Oh, you have a choice. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna blow up our ship. What do you what are

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Speaker 3: you going to do? And Donald Trump blinked. Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: would not stop that ship.

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Speaker 1: No, Charlie Sykes, I hope you'll come.

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Speaker 3: Back anytime, anytime.

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Speaker 1: Josh Turik is a member of the Iowa House of

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Speaker 1: Representatives from the twentieth District and a candidate for Senate

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Speaker 1: in the great state of Iowa.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, welcome, Josh, Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what you're running for and give us like

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Speaker 1: your background. How you here sure?

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Speaker 7: I'm Iowa State Representative Josh Turick. I'm running for the

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Speaker 7: United States Senate here in Iowa. I am the first

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Speaker 7: permanently disabled member of the Iowa Legislature, and I am

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Speaker 7: the Democrat that represents the reddest district that was one

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Speaker 7: on election day the two communities that I represent in

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Speaker 7: the Iowa Legislature.

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Speaker 5: Trump won crter Lake by eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Points Anyone Council Bluffs, my hometown, by ten points, and

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Speaker 7: I was able to win my district by nearly six points.

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Speaker 5: So I'm very very proud of that.

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Speaker 7: I'm born and raised in Council Buss, Iowa, to a

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Speaker 7: working class family, working class community went through a lot

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Speaker 7: of economic adversity early in my life. Went to the

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Speaker 7: Goodwill for clothes, We shared clothes, went to the Free

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Speaker 7: Summer lunch programs had the wrong color of lunch tickets.

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Speaker 7: So in a deeply personal way, understand what so many

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Speaker 7: Americans are going through right now with their economic struggles.

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Speaker 5: I was born with a disability.

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Speaker 7: I was born with a condition called spine and bifida,

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Speaker 7: who was due to my father's exposure to agent orange

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Speaker 7: in Vietnam. So I had my first surgery one day old,

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Speaker 7: had twenty one surgery before I was twelve. So also

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Speaker 7: in a very deeply personal way, understand the importance of

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Speaker 7: DACI that's right, and believe.

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Speaker 5: That healthcare is a human right.

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Speaker 7: Had a very successful wheelchair basketball career, played in four

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Speaker 7: Paralympic games, went back to back gold medals, represent in

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Speaker 7: the USA and wheelchair basketball. Been a director of a

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Speaker 7: nonprofit organization for disabled kids for quite some time. Got

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Speaker 7: involved into politics because I was working in healthcare.

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Speaker 5: I was what's called an assistive technology professional.

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Speaker 7: So I was assessing and providing power wheelchairs for individuals

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Speaker 7: with progressive conditions like muscular dystrophe and als lou Garrig's disease,

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Speaker 7: and had found that Iowa, since it privatized its Medicaid system,

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Speaker 7: was showing a thousand percent increase in denial rate, and

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Speaker 7: then I'd found out that we had never had a

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Speaker 7: permanent disabled member of the Iowa Legislature, so decided to run.

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Speaker 7: I won my first election by just six votes. I

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Speaker 7: did that by every single day going out raynorsheine, hard

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Speaker 7: or cold, dragging my wheelchair upstairs to have conversations with

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Speaker 7: Republicans and independence. And then turned around and even though

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Speaker 7: the Republicans spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on negative

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Speaker 7: television ads and Americans for Prosperity spending hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 7: on paid canvassers and mailers, turned that six vote margin

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Speaker 7: into a six percent margin and outperformed by fifty percent

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Speaker 7: more than any other Democrat in the state. And what

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Speaker 7: it's taught me is right candidate, right message, with the

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Speaker 7: right work ethic, we can win. And I'm running for

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Speaker 7: the US Senate because I'm only here because of the

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Speaker 7: work of a great senator from Iowa, Senator Tom Harkin,

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Speaker 7: and the work that he did on the American Disabilities Act.

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Speaker 7: And I think that this is a once in a

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Speaker 7: generation opportunity that we've got here in Iowa to be

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Speaker 7: able to once again have a senator like Senator Harkin,

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Speaker 7: that's fighting for the people, fighting for Iowa and iolands,

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Speaker 7: and fighting for social and economic justice, and we can

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Speaker 7: change this state and change this country.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had you on this podcast a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I remember by the way, I remember thinking, this guy's

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Speaker 1: really good. But there's no way like I remember the like.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the very few places where I

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Speaker 1: interview a lot of elected right from state House to

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Speaker 1: you know, we haven't ever had a dog catcher candidate on,

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Speaker 1: but we would because we know the importance of running

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Speaker 1: up been down the ticket no matter what in every state.

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Speaker 1: That's like my thesis, and it's not even my thesis

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Speaker 1: as demand a Lipman thesis. But when I heard you

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Speaker 1: last time, I thought, this guy's really like, he's so good.

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Speaker 1: And also your life has been affected by many of

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Speaker 1: the actions of the American government. Right your father was,

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Speaker 1: you know, subjected to Agent Orange. It had this effect

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Speaker 1: on you. You managed to just thrive. So but it's

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Speaker 1: funny because the world has changed so much in that

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Speaker 1: year where anything is possible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 7: I think a year ago, no one would have thought

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Speaker 7: that a state like Iowa be in play, a state

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Speaker 7: that Trump wins by twelve points. But this is a

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Speaker 7: fundamentally different state, different country, and different race. Right now,

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Speaker 7: I really believe that i was going to be the

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Speaker 7: center of the political universe this year. I think it's

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Speaker 7: the only state, the very best place to invest where

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Speaker 7: you're looking at being able to flip three congressional races.

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Speaker 7: We can flip the open governor's race, and we can

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Speaker 7: win this US Senate seat. And it's for a couple

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Speaker 7: of reasons. One is Iowa has bottomed out. We are

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Speaker 7: dead last for economic growth. We are forty eighth for

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Speaker 7: personal income growth. We're one of two states already in

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Speaker 7: an economic decline. We are dead last for nearly every

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Speaker 7: healthcare metric. We lead the nation in cancer rates, and

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Speaker 7: now we lead the nation in farm foreclosures because of

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Speaker 7: the tariffs. So we have bottomed out, and I think

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Speaker 7: sometimes you have to, like a state like Kansas, you

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Speaker 7: have to bottom out before people are willing to recognize

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Speaker 7: the need to go a different direction. Secondly, there's no

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Speaker 7: power of incumbency here in Iowa did the first time

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Speaker 7: since nineteen sixty eight open Senate race and open governor's

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Speaker 7: race together along with two open congressional races, and I

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Speaker 7: think that people will look at a state like iowad

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Speaker 7: and say, well, that's a red state, but we're not.

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Speaker 7: We're a common sense state that is masqueraded more red

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Speaker 7: than what we are. We're a state that in Trump's

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Speaker 7: first midterm, we won three of the four congressional races,

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Speaker 7: almost one all four. And in our last midterm, which

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Speaker 7: was not a good year for Democrats twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 7: we were only one point five percent away from having

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Speaker 7: three of our six state wide officials being Democrats. And

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Speaker 7: then additionally, I think seventy percent of this equation is

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Speaker 7: quality of candidacy, right got a candidate like my battle

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Speaker 7: tested being able to win in the reddest environments.

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Speaker 5: I don't come from a purple district. I come from

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Speaker 5: a red district.

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Speaker 7: And I know that there is something specific about my story,

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Speaker 7: my background, my resume, and my politics that has the

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Speaker 7: ability to rise above this usualism and connects with independence

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Speaker 7: and modern Republicans.

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Speaker 5: And that's what it's going to be able to take

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Speaker 5: to win here in Iowa. And we do.

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Speaker 7: We have a once in a generation opportunity to flip

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Speaker 7: this US Senate seat and not only change the state

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Speaker 7: of Iowa, but change this country.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to talk to us about what

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Speaker 1: are the numbers in your district, the one you represent

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Speaker 1: right now, and what's the sort of partisan lean of

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Speaker 1: the state.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the district that I represent, Trump won Carter Lake

673
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Speaker 7: by eighteen points, one council Bluss by ten points. I

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Speaker 7: was able to win my district by six points. It

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Speaker 7: was a fourteen point over performance. No other Democrat in

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Speaker 7: the state did better than ten percent. So it's a

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Speaker 7: very very red district. Statewide. You know, this is a

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Speaker 7: state that Trump won by twelve points, but it's a

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Speaker 7: very different state now.

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Speaker 5: And Trump's approval numbers would put us as a D

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Speaker 5: plus three state.

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Speaker 7: Wow, Republicans, and even my Republican opponent, Ashley Henson is

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Speaker 7: now telling her donors that their internal polling is showing

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Speaker 7: us as a D plus one state.

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Speaker 5: And so this is a fundamentally different state right now.

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Speaker 7: And you're looking at, for example, Iowa won the congressional district.

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Speaker 7: We lost that by a quarter of one percent and

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Speaker 7: one of the worst years to run as a Democrat.

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Speaker 7: And so I think this really puts Iowa one, two,

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Speaker 7: and three in play. We've got a great gubernatorial candidate

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Speaker 7: Rob sand that is showing up in the polls as well.

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Speaker 7: This is really a generational opportunity, and I think we've

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Speaker 7: got an opportunity here in Iowa to have a consistency

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Speaker 7: in messaging an organized, coordinated campaign where we raise the

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Speaker 7: tides for all of us.

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Speaker 5: Because I don't want this to be siloed.

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Speaker 7: I don't want this just to be about let's get

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Speaker 7: Josh to the US Senate. I want this about making

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Speaker 7: fundamental generational change to my state and to my country.

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Speaker 7: And we can if we can win here in Iowa,

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Speaker 7: we can get two fifty one in the US Senate

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Speaker 7: and we can fundamentally change country.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are all elected officials who are either

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Speaker 1: in the state ledge or because we think of red

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Speaker 1: states as not having any Democrats. You know, even very

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Speaker 1: sophisticated people like myself was not even that sophisticated. But

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Speaker 1: you know, so the idea of picking people for these

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Speaker 1: higher level jobs, not picking, but elevating people for those

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Speaker 1: higher level jobs who have already served in the ledge, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And even though we've been a red state for

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Speaker 7: the last two few years, you know, we're a state

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Speaker 7: that for thirty years elected Senator Harkin. We're a state

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Speaker 7: that twice for Obama, three times for Trump. We've had

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Speaker 7: a long history of having democratic governors, and as recently

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Speaker 7: as twenty twenty had three of our four congressmen being Democrats,

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Speaker 7: and so certainly as well. Right now we have Rob

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Speaker 7: sand as our auditor. So it's not quite as red

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Speaker 7: as people realize.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want you to talk us through the farm bailout,

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Speaker 1: because Donald Trump has yet again done another farm bailout,

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Speaker 1: which I assume must affect you guys. Clearly, the impetus

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Speaker 1: for it is the polling. How is it being met there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got a farm crisis here in Iowa, what

724
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Speaker 7: I'm calling a farm agedin. We lead the nation in

725
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Speaker 7: farm foreclosures. You've got farm suicides that are dramatically higher.

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Speaker 7: These folks are upside down on their commodities prices, and

727
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Speaker 7: this is directly due to the.

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Speaker 5: Chaotic nature of tariffs.

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Speaker 7: Also, Trump decided to give twenty billion dollars to Argentina

730
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Speaker 7: so that China can buy the Argentinian and the Brazilian soybeans. Meanwhile,

731
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Speaker 7: our Iowa farmers are upside down.

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Speaker 5: It is a real, real crisis.

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Speaker 7: Additionally, you've got input prices that are about a one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent higher. That's because of consolidation and not doing

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Speaker 7: anything on antitrust laws.

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Speaker 5: You've also got that that has been raised because of

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Speaker 5: chaotic tariffs with China.

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Speaker 7: And now what we're seeing with this war in Iran

739
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Speaker 7: is it's also impeding fertilizers. And you've got a significant

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Speaker 7: amount of Iowa farmers now that don't have any fertilizer

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Speaker 7: and we're a month away from planting season. It is

742
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Speaker 7: a real nightmare out there for the farmers. They're hurting,

743
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Speaker 7: they're struggling. And I can tell you this. The area

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Speaker 7: in the state that we're getting the biggest turnouts of

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Speaker 7: card carrying Republicans is in these rural communities among small

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Speaker 7: family farmers.

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Speaker 5: And they're saying the word we hear the most is betrayal.

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Speaker 7: They're saying that we have gone out and we have

749
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Speaker 7: supported Trump, we have voted for them, and yet this

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Speaker 7: is what you have done. You go in these rural communities,

751
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Speaker 7: they have been absolutely decimated. You go down these main

752
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Speaker 7: streets and they are desolate, like a vacuum's gone through there.

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Speaker 7: And these are rural communities because of bad state and

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Speaker 7: federal policy. They've lost their grocery stores, they've lost their pharmacies.

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Speaker 7: We are closing healthcare clinics all over the state. In

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Speaker 7: the last fifteen years, we've closed more than two hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty healthcare clinics and we have opened. We are

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Speaker 7: dead last for nearly every single healthcare metric in a

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Speaker 7: state with a growing cancer rate. And we're also closing

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Speaker 7: our public schools and we're only doing that in our

761
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Speaker 7: rural communities. These are rural communities and farmers that are hurting,

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Speaker 7: and it is directly because of bad policy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if you could talk about what sort

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Speaker 1: of you've seen in the last year before you came

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. You know, we talked just a few

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Speaker 1: questions though about how the farming the atmosphere has changed.

767
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Speaker 1: The economy is definitely in a lot worse place than

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Speaker 1: it was before the tariffs. But what else have you seen, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, part of the Trump's second election was this

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Speaker 1: feeling that he was going to sort of fix a

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Speaker 1: lot of these other things. I mean, is there you

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Speaker 1: talk about betrayal, but like do you think they've sort

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Speaker 1: of threaded the needle on him? Like immigration? Just talk

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Speaker 1: us through these kind of things.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that oftentimes you do have to bottom

776
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Speaker 7: out before people are willing to recognize that. What I

777
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 7: say when I go in these real communities, I don't

778
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Speaker 7: vilify them. I say, I understand why you voted for

779
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Speaker 7: someone like Trump. He accurately identified that the status quo

780
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Speaker 7: was not working for the average American and for middle America,

781
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Speaker 7: for the middle class. But yet every single one of

782
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Speaker 7: his policies have just made the situation worse. From the

783
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Speaker 7: Trump tax cuts eighty four percent going to billionaires, and

784
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Speaker 7: from the Big Beautiful Bill really affecting a lot of islands,

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Speaker 7: especially given the fact that we're dead laughts on healthcare.

786
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Speaker 7: One hundred and ten thousand islands lose their healthcare, thousands

787
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Speaker 7: more lose their basic food assistance, and then the ACA subsidies.

788
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Speaker 7: One hundred and nineteen thousand islands seeing their healthcare premiums

789
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Speaker 7: double or triple. And what have I seen out there

790
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Speaker 7: as a traveling state, I'm seeing healthcare clinics close. I

791
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Speaker 7: was just an Autumua where they've closed their healthcare clinics.

792
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Speaker 7: Now those folks are going to have to drive more

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Speaker 7: than an hour to be able to get there. I

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Speaker 7: was recently in northwestern Iowa where I was meeting with

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Speaker 7: some young people and they were telling me that they

796
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Speaker 7: don't believe that the American dream can exist anymore. That

797
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Speaker 7: they're paying fifty percent of their income just on housing,

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Speaker 7: that they've lost their ACA subsidies, and they've seen their

799
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Speaker 7: healthcare premiums and pharmaceutical costs go from one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty dollars to nine hundred dollars. It's not sustainable. The

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Speaker 7: thing that we are hearing by far the most, it

802
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Speaker 7: doesn't matter where we go, urban or rural area in Iowa,

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Speaker 7: is that people are hurting. They are struggling just to

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Speaker 7: keep a roof above their head, pay their electric bill,

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Speaker 7: and keep food on the table.

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Speaker 5: It really is.

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Speaker 7: And that's why I know that a message like mine,

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Speaker 7: genuine common sense prairie populism that Tom Harkin made famous

809
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Speaker 7: here for thirty years, really really resonates this upcoming election

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Speaker 7: More than anything. It's about affordability, it's about kitchen table issues.

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Speaker 7: It's about a livable wage, affordable housingfordable healthcare, affordable pharmaceuticals.

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Speaker 7: Supporting our public schools because Iowa was once number one

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Speaker 7: in public education. We precipitously drop, doing something about the

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Speaker 7: rising cancer rates that we're seeing, doing something about the

815
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Speaker 7: water quality crisis because we've got the worst water, the

816
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Speaker 7: most polluted waterways in the country here in Iowa, and

817
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Speaker 7: doing something about the corruption that we're seeing, and that's

818
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Speaker 7: on lack of campaign finance reform, and that's also the

819
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Speaker 7: lack of ethics. I mean, it really is now in America.

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Speaker 7: It's the haves and the have nots. And we have

821
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Speaker 7: had absolutely oligarchy, and you can have oligarchica democracy, but

822
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Speaker 7: you can't have both. And that message is really really

823
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Speaker 7: resonating with folks here in Iowa. They're recognizing that this

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Speaker 7: state in this country needs change.

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Speaker 1: So the place you represent, Council Block, that part of Iowa,

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Speaker 1: you're popular there. How popular are you and how did

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Speaker 1: you get elected there? On? How do you take that statewide?

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Speaker 7: What I've learned in representing a red district is it's

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Speaker 7: a simple calculus. It is right candidate, and I believe

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Speaker 7: that candidacy is seventy percent of the equation.

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Speaker 5: I know that there is something specific.

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Speaker 7: About my story, my background, my resume, and my politics

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Speaker 7: that really have this ability to resonate with the king

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Speaker 7: makers here in Iowa, which is the thirty five percent

835
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Speaker 7: of the voting block that are independence and also moderate Republicans.

836
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Speaker 7: I know we see someone like me. There's a genuineness

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Speaker 7: and an authenticity coming from a working class family, coming

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Speaker 7: from a working class community, overcoming all the odds that

839
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Speaker 7: I have through hard work, not only to win gold medals,

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Speaker 7: but to drag my wheelchair upstairs. That really resonates with

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Speaker 7: folks in rural communities and farmers and moderate Republicans. Second

842
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Speaker 7: is messaging, and I have been laser focused and very

843
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Speaker 7: disciplined on messaging, and that is just to focus on

844
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Speaker 7: the issues that apply to the three point two million islands.

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Speaker 7: And as I've said it, it's a livable wage, affordable housing,

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Speaker 7: affordable healthcare, pharmaceuticals, drinkable water, functioning public schools, infrastructure, doing

847
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Speaker 7: something about corruption. It is genuine populism that resonates with folks.

848
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Speaker 7: And then the last part is work ethic. For my

849
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Speaker 7: state race, every single day, rain or shine, hot or cold,

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Speaker 7: I went out and I drugged my wheelchair upstairs. People

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Speaker 7: appreciated that. And for the state wide race, it's the

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Speaker 7: exact same calculus. I'm running on the exact same issues,

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Speaker 7: and you know the same person, and I know that

854
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Speaker 7: we can win, and as opposed to dragging my wheelchair

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Speaker 7: upstairs every single day. Now, it's a matter of getting

856
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Speaker 7: around to all ninety nine counties, every single one of

857
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Speaker 7: these medium sized communities, small communities, and going out there

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Speaker 7: and talking about how I'm genuinely going to be out

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Speaker 7: there not looking out for the billionaires and not looking

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Speaker 7: out for the large corporations, for the donor class, for

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Speaker 7: the lobbyists, because that's all we've had here in Iowa

862
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Speaker 7: is people like Ashley Hinson that are just looking out

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Speaker 7: for the donors and the billionaires and just trying to

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Speaker 7: make herself four times more wealthy in the time that she's.

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Speaker 5: Been in Congress.

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Speaker 7: And I'm going up there because we need more people

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Speaker 7: in DC from places like Councilbless Iowa with the lived experience,

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Speaker 7: both economically and on the healthcare side, because when you

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Speaker 7: have experienced it firsthand, you will have a different level

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Speaker 7: of fight and a different level of empathy. And we

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Speaker 7: need more working class fighters up there in DC. We

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Speaker 7: don't need any more millionaires. I'm the only one in

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Speaker 7: this race that is not a millionaire. Both on the

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Speaker 7: Republican and on the Democratic side. We've got enough people

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Speaker 7: that come from wealth, that come from privilege. We need

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Speaker 7: real fighters that come from real world conditions, both economically

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Speaker 7: and healthcare, because that's the people that are going to

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Speaker 7: go up there.

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Speaker 5: And really fight to make fundamental change in our country.

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Speaker 1: You got this endorsement from Vote Vets. It's unusual because

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Speaker 1: you are not a veteran, but you have this story

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Speaker 1: where you were affected by your father's service because you're

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Speaker 1: born with spina bifida. I want you to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a very meaningful thing, this endorsement, and I

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Speaker 1: do think it makes a lot of sense. So talk

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Speaker 1: us through it.

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Speaker 7: And I'm incredibly grateful for you. You know, I come from

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Speaker 7: a family generations of veterans. Both of my grandfather served

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Speaker 7: in World War Two in the Navy. My father spent

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Speaker 7: twenty two months in Vietnam. It is due to his

891
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Speaker 7: exposure to agent Orange. Is the reason why I ended

892
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Speaker 7: up with my disability of spina bifida. I get my

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Speaker 7: healthcare through the VA because of that reason. I think that,

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Speaker 7: you know, even my nephew, the next generation, served four

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Speaker 7: years in the Coast Guard. I also have spent a

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Speaker 7: significant amount of my time in adaptive sports working with

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Speaker 7: newly injured individuals, because one of the best ways to

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Speaker 7: see genuine rehabilitation for these brave men and women that

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Speaker 7: are coming back missing arms and missing legs is through

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Speaker 7: adaptive sports. Also, in the Iowa legislature, I've been ranking

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Speaker 7: member of the VA and done an awful lot of

902
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Speaker 7: work to make sure that we take care of our veterans.

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Speaker 7: I say that we are way too quick to send

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Speaker 7: these guys and gals overseas, and we're not nearly quick

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Speaker 7: enough to take care of them. Veterans suicides is still

906
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Speaker 7: too high PTSD, we still don't have enough supports for

907
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Speaker 7: these individuals. And I think that you know, I'm very,

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Speaker 7: very grateful for vote vets. I think what they recognized

909
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Speaker 7: is this is the generational impacts that we see from

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Speaker 7: confident like this, and what I've seen far too much

911
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 7: in my life are these forever wars. And we're spending

912
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Speaker 7: a billion dollars a day over in Iran with no strategy,

913
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Speaker 7: no idea where we're going or why we're there. That

914
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Speaker 7: is driving up oil prices, That is just making it

915
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Speaker 7: harder and harder for the average American and the average

916
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Speaker 7: island to be able to make ends meet, and that

917
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Speaker 7: billion dollars a day would certainly be far better suited

918
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Speaker 7: to come here to Iowa because we've got closing healthcare

919
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Speaker 7: clinics and closing schools and crumbling infrastructure. And I've never

920
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 7: heard a single Iowand say that they want to be

921
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Speaker 7: in another forever war. And islands are already paying a

922
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Speaker 7: dramatic price on this. We've already lost three islands in

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Speaker 7: this conflict. Yeah, I'm very grateful for their support in this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Josh absolutely.

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Speaker 3: No moments, Jesse Cannon, Mai Jong Fast.

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Speaker 2: So when we think about the Trump administration of the future,

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Speaker 2: what of the markings really will be is this is

928
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Speaker 2: when they all decided what are you going to do

929
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Speaker 2: about it? With my corruption and headline is one of

930
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: those ones that you almost wonder why no one did

931
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Speaker 2: it before because they probably could get away with it,

932
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Speaker 2: And then you think it's because people.

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Speaker 4: Were decent and that's some morals, just some Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Pete HeiG Seth is like everyone else in this administration,

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Speaker 1: completely corrupt. Pete he says Broker tried to buy defense

936
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Speaker 1: fund before the Iran War. The report came after US

937
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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump appeared to place responsibility for decision to

938
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Speaker 1: launch military strikes against Iran on Defense Secretary Hegseeth. So

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Speaker 1: let's pull back for a minute. There are a number

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00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: of reasons why this is important. One, it's because Donald

941
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Speaker 1: Trump is starting to understand that this war is going south,

942
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Speaker 1: and so he's trying to blame people like Pete Heg Seth.

943
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Speaker 1: This is really important because it shows that he's losing

944
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Speaker 1: faith in it and losing his spine when it comes

945
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Speaker 1: to it, which is good. I want to read to

946
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Speaker 1: you a little bit from the story because I think

947
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Speaker 1: it's important. So US Defense Secretary Pete hegsas broker attempted

948
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Speaker 1: to make a big investment in major defense companies weeks

949
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Speaker 1: leading up to the US c iseral attack in Iran,

950
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Speaker 1: so they knew it was coming. The Financial Times reported

951
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: this Financial Times is really bulletproof. The Pentagon calling the

952
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Speaker 1: report entirely false and fabricated, which they do for everything,

953
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Speaker 1: so very unsurprising. Hegsetts broker at Morgan Stanley. This is

954
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Speaker 1: a big bank, a lot of US use it. Approach

955
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Speaker 1: black Rock in February. So the fact that this guy

956
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: thought that he could go to black Rock when he

957
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: represents You know, like this is so clumsy, Like if

958
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: you're going to do crime and corruption, at least do

959
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: it quietly. He wanted to make in multi million dollar

960
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: investment in the asset Manager's Defense Industries ETF, and ETF

961
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Speaker 1: is a bouquet of stocks that are in a particular sector,

962
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Speaker 1: and this sector would be defense. Because Pete hagsats knew

963
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Speaker 1: America was going to war. This is coming out right

964
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Speaker 1: after it happened. Imagine what else these guys are doing. Okay,

965
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Speaker 1: we are the smallest mainstream media ever right like we

966
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Speaker 1: are teeny, We are understaffed, nobody has any money. Everybody

967
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: pivoted to video, but nobody has any money. Reporting is

968
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: really as spined and small as it's been. We're all

969
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: working with these skeleton staffs, but we're still learning about

970
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: stuff like this a couple of weeks into this war.

971
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Speaker 1: And that makes me think that we're gonna spend the

972
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Speaker 1: next couple of years learning about crazy corruption happening behind

973
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: the scenes. So I think this is opening salvo in

974
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Speaker 1: what will be just a plethora of corruption and fraud,

975
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: and people are going to jail if we still have jails,

976
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Speaker 1: which we might not because Trump may get rid of

977
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Speaker 1: them for whatever reason. But if we still have a

978
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Speaker 1: rule of law, people are going to jail. That's it

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981
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,799
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