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Speaker 4: in there. I get in there for worses, but they

440
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Speaker 4: don't always feel like anybody cares about them either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I've worked with homeless people in shelters who feel

443
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Speaker 2: like who feels like nobody cares? We have more ways

444
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Speaker 2: to get in contact with each other than we ever

445
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Speaker 2: had before, and yet we've never been as lonely and

446
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Speaker 2: had as many mental health problems suicides as we have

447
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Speaker 2: right now. How do we begin to break through that?

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Speaker 1: So I think you're exactly right, and I think that

449
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Speaker 1: the problem is even bigger than that. So I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you how I think about all all of the challenges

451
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Speaker 1: that we face right now, Because if you don't really

452
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Speaker 1: understand what's wrong, chances are you're not going to be

453
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Speaker 1: able to find a solution. You're not going to be

454
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Speaker 1: able to find things that have helped people move forward.

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Speaker 1: So the way I look at what's happening in our

456
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Speaker 1: society right now, and the polarization and the division and

457
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Speaker 1: the US versus them thinking the idea that in order

458
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Speaker 1: to get ahead, other people have to be left behind,

459
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Speaker 1: which is not at all how things should work, and

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Speaker 1: is to my mind, threatens to destroy our society. To me,

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Speaker 1: this isn't because we've got bad people. We have some

462
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Speaker 1: people who are doing the wrong thing and they know it.

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Speaker 1: But to me, most people are lost, you know, And

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Speaker 1: you ask the question, why are they lost? To my mind,

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Speaker 1: it's because we're going through a period of disruption, you know.

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Speaker 1: You say unprecedented, and you know, people who study like

467
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Speaker 1: you, you know, thousands of years, it's hard to say I'm

468
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Speaker 1: precedent and we've been through disruption before, yes, but I

469
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Speaker 1: think it's disruption like we haven't seen in a few lifetimes.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and you think about what that means. It

471
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Speaker 1: means that the systems and the institutions that people have

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Speaker 1: relied on to order their lives to be able to

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Speaker 1: plan what is my life going to be like, they're

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Speaker 1: being disrupted. Education used to be you get a high

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Speaker 1: school diploma. You might forego some opportunities, but you're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to live a good life. Employment used

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Speaker 1: to be you get a job, maybe two jobs, and

478
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Speaker 1: that was going to be your job for life. I

479
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Speaker 1: think kids under or kids people under the age of

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Speaker 1: thirty right now, average tenure in a job is two years.

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Speaker 1: This is disruption. And then let's talk about some of

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Speaker 1: the more fundamental institutions, faith, the family. The stability that

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Speaker 1: people had counted on to figure out how to get

484
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Speaker 1: by just isn't there anymore. And when that happens, we're

485
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Speaker 1: you know, we're human beings, and so that creates uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: And when we have uncertainty. We look for some to

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Speaker 1: make it stop, and the voices at the extremes are

488
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Speaker 1: promising big. I can tell you what's wrong. It's those

489
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Speaker 1: other people over there. Let's blame those other people. Give

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Speaker 1: me the power and just let me make decisions on

491
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Speaker 1: your behalf and everything will be okay. They're promising big,

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Speaker 1: but they always deliver low. And so to my mind,

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Speaker 1: if we want to talk about how do we bring

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Speaker 1: people together and how do we get past this period

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Speaker 1: of disruption, we're not talking about changes at the margin,

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Speaker 1: just small changes. To my mind, our project right now

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Speaker 1: is we have to reimagine the institutions that can help

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Speaker 1: people live well together. And if we do that, not

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Speaker 1: only are we going to be able to get past

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Speaker 1: this period of disruption and disorder, but we're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to do a whole lot better than we

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Speaker 1: used to do. Because remember those institutions in the past,

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Speaker 1: they provided stability, but.

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Speaker 3: They weren't great.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at education, for instance, and you

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Speaker 1: know this is not something that I need to tell

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Speaker 1: you about. You've you've thought a lot about this, but

509
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Speaker 1: our education system, it consistently and underestimates the potential of

510
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Speaker 1: people and it leaves so many people behind. And so

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Speaker 1: if the system of education is going to be disrupted,

512
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Speaker 1: let's shoot big. Let's let's make sure that we end

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Speaker 1: up on the other side in a way that was

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Speaker 1: better than where we were before. And you know, we're

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Speaker 1: supporting again these social entrepreneurs who are some of the

516
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Speaker 1: most creative and imaginative builders of these new institutions that

517
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Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. So in education, for instance, just

518
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Speaker 1: in the past five years, and this really started after COVID,

519
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Speaker 1: when parents woke up and said, wait a minute, we

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Speaker 1: need to do something different. We've helped more than five

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Speaker 1: thousand educational entrepreneurs in all fifty states offer parents something

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Speaker 1: better for their kids. And the story after story, if

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Speaker 1: you were to predict where do those education entrepreneurs come from,

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Speaker 1: They didn't come from Harvard, They didn't come from twenty

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Speaker 1: story buildings. Their parents that had an idea about what

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Speaker 1: their kids needed and what their neighbors needed were their

527
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Speaker 1: teachers who had been able to see what needed to

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Speaker 1: improve in the system before and given them just a

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Speaker 1: little bit of resources, both financial but also support from

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Speaker 1: other people who are walking the same journey. These entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: these education entrepreneurs are reimagining this foundational institution, and they're

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Speaker 1: doing it in a way that is much better than

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Speaker 1: what came before. I tell you, eighty percent of the

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Speaker 1: folks that we've supported in this.

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Speaker 3: One program are women.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of them serve middle and lower income communities,

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Speaker 1: and almost all of them, more than eighty percent of them,

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Speaker 1: in just a short period of time, are sustainable on

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Speaker 1: the tuition dollars of the people that they serve. So

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Speaker 1: to my mind, this says there is a huge opportunity

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Speaker 1: to help people to live better lives, but we have

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Speaker 1: to do things very differently than we did in the past.

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Speaker 1: And I think you could tell that story about just

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Speaker 1: about any one of these institutions.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, I had the sorrow and the privilege

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Speaker 2: of working with Katrina and the victims of Katrina. The

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Speaker 2: winds and the rain and the thunder and the lightning

548
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Speaker 2: did its fair share of damage. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: minimize that at all.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: But what made it a terrible disaster is when the

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Speaker 2: levees gave way levees that needed to be innovated. We created, modified,

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Speaker 2: but needed to be there. And I so often look

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Speaker 2: at our times and think about those levees, our institutions,

555
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Speaker 2: our constitution, our commitment to faith. Those levees that you

556
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Speaker 2: don't see the under the water, but they keep the

557
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Speaker 2: flood of evil from taking over and drowning the innocent.

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Speaker 2: It has taken over to such a way that we

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Speaker 2: find ourselves on the roof, yes, waiting on help to

560
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Speaker 2: come from anywhere we can get it to come from.

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Speaker 2: And I think our job is to fix the levees.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If we do that, our educational institutions must move

564
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Speaker 2: from education, to move away from what it's called education

565
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Speaker 2: to toward recognizing that what we do a lot of

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Speaker 2: times is indoctrination. That's right, And it depends on what

567
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Speaker 2: school you went to, how you are indoctrinated. So the

568
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Speaker 2: facts have variables based on what part of the country

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Speaker 2: do you live in, how you were raised, how you

570
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Speaker 2: were taught. We've got to give an even playing field,

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Speaker 2: especially with the technology. And one other comment, cause you

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Speaker 2: got me started, Yeah, yeah, me fired up. You got me.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about we've seen these times before, we have,

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Speaker 2: and we've often seen them, and they've been horrific times.

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Speaker 2: But we have never seen these times come upon us

576
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Speaker 2: with such dangerous tools and weapons. Musket rifles, ships, cannons.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it before. Lynchings and mobbings, killings, all these

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Speaker 2: sort of things. We've seen it before. And for me,

579
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Speaker 2: being a boomer, I've seen it. I was born in it.

580
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Speaker 2: I was born in the sixties. You know, Woodstuck and

581
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendrix and all of that kind of stuff. Yeah,

582
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Speaker 2: you're too young for that, but.

583
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Speaker 3: I got some very very strong appreciation.

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Speaker 2: For Ji't do you, okay, okay, I remember Jimmy well.

585
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Speaker 2: So we came up in that air. We came up

586
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Speaker 2: in the air of the Vietnam War. We came up

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Speaker 2: in the where women were burning their bro other than

588
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: people were fighting, and people were picketing work on wits

589
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: all day. But we didn't come up in a world

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Speaker 2: where we could text on our telephone all the way

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Speaker 2: to Afghanistan Japan, that we that we could hit the grid,

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Speaker 2: hack into a grid, and shut down the power systems

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Speaker 2: in a country. Our concern is the fierce urgency of

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Speaker 2: now is that we have to move quickly. We cannot

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Speaker 2: be stagnated, We cannot put it off for tomorrow. Because

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Speaker 2: our weapons have improved so rapidly that from week to week,

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Speaker 2: you're getting the upgrades on your phones, You're getting upgrades

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Speaker 2: on everything. Because it is moving so fast, how do

599
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Speaker 2: we recover the speed and the ground that we need

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Speaker 2: where we really get out there to the people. And

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Speaker 2: I agree with you there are more that are in

602
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Speaker 2: the middle than there are on the extremes, but they

603
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Speaker 2: don't get the interviews.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right now, that's exactly right. So I

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Speaker 1: think this is the challenge of our time. But the

606
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Speaker 1: pace of change is faster than it's ever been. I

607
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Speaker 1: think that's fair to say. And the scope of the

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Speaker 1: disruptions as you described, both through technology but just through geography, right,

609
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Speaker 1: is unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say. So when I think.

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Speaker 1: About what do we do, you know, when the world

612
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Speaker 1: is sort of spinning and it's hard to find something

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Speaker 1: to hold on to, what we hold on to that

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Speaker 1: stand together in my life and as I think about

615
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Speaker 1: what I can do to solve problems and bring other

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Speaker 1: people in. Are these principles? You know, we call them

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Speaker 1: the principles of human progress. It's the two hundred and

618
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Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence this year. These

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Speaker 1: are the principles that the founders of our country wrote

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Speaker 1: about in that document. They're the principles that Frederick Douglass

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Speaker 1: called saving principles that Doctor King talked about being part

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Speaker 1: of a promisory that it was up to each generation

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Speaker 1: to find new and better ways to live up to

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Speaker 1: that promise, to live into those principles. And to my mind,

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Speaker 1: that is how we solve our problems. That is how

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Speaker 1: we solve We do a better job of living into

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Speaker 1: these principles. So, if technology is dividing us, how do

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Speaker 1: we turn that technology on its head so that tool

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Speaker 1: can be a tool to help unite?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because it can, it can Chapter number six A

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Speaker 2: and us. It's I don't want to demonize technology because

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here alive because of technology.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, you had an incredible scare last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And it's only because of artificial intelligence and

635
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: technology that they went in through my arm and went

636
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Speaker 2: all the way into my heart and I'm sitting here today.

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Speaker 2: So it can be used for good and in a

638
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Speaker 2: lot of amazing ways. It's really really exciting. Eli Whitney

639
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: created the Cotton Gin. It changed the world as we

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Speaker 2: know it. When the railroads came to America, it changed

641
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: transportation as we know it. When the Wright Brothers created

642
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Speaker 2: the airplane, it changed the world as we know it.

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Speaker 2: Now we can get places that would have taken us

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Speaker 2: days to get We can get there in hours. Now

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Speaker 2: technology has changed the world for us. I woke up

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Speaker 2: one morning and I was living on another planet. Everything

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Speaker 2: else well, then, yeah, totally changed. I can't afford equipment,

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Speaker 2: I can't run. I have to call my kids to

649
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Speaker 2: help me navigate things that they can't pay for it,

650
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Speaker 2: but they can run. I can pay for it, but

651
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Speaker 2: can't run it. It's a new world, but it's a

652
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Speaker 2: new opportunity. What do you say to the people who

653
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Speaker 2: are a little bit intimidated by that new world?

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Speaker 1: I say, I understand. I'm intimidated too. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: you say, this is not a small change.

656
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Speaker 3: This is a revolution.

657
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Speaker 1: Yes, but we've been through this before, and technologies, just

658
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: as you described, they can either be used to improve

659
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: society or.

660
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: To make things worse.

661
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Speaker 1: And so we have to see artificial intelligence and AI

662
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: as the opportunity to lift everyone up to improve society.

663
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: The challenge is it's not going to happen on its own.

664
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Speaker 1: Rarely are the least fortunate in our society the first

665
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: to benefit from leading edge technology. But I think we

666
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to make sure that they are. And

667
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: there's lots of different projects that are doing this. We're

668
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: involved in one called Next Latter Ventures, brand new project.

669
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Speaker 1: It was announced just this last summer. It's a consortium

670
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: of philanthropies that have put together a billion dollars to

671
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: make investments in leading edge technology that help those who

672
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: are at or below two times the federal poverty limit.

673
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: And the way I look at it is when you

674
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: or I have an important life decision to make. Should

675
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: I buy this new house? Should I go back to school?

676
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: How am I going to handle these healthcare bills that

677
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I just can't afford right now? We call somebody we know,

678
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: whether it's a friend, a parent, a colleague, an associate,

679
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: and we say, hey, help me think through this.

680
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: Most people who.

681
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Are economically vulnerable, they don't have that kind of a resource,

682
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and so they're one bad decision away from a really

683
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: hard life. Technology can help, and so how do we

684
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: build the AI tools to help people to navigate those

685
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: important life decisions so that they can have a coach

686
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: in their pocket, and that coach can be aligned with

687
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: their life aspirations. So not only are they going to

688
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: live above escape poverty and avoid poverty, but they're going

689
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Speaker 1: to build a life that reflects who they want to be.

690
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: And I think technology has the opportunity to do that.

691
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: There's just one example. But if we approach this transition,

692
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: this revolution and technology from a perspective of strength, and

693
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: we see it as a two to help improve the

694
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Speaker 1: lives of everyone, I think we can be Okay.

695
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and I think something else needs

696
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: to be said. Even though a person is exceptionally endowed

697
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: with the gifts that are necessary to make them fluent

698
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: with technology, doesn't mean that they know everything. Just because

699
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: you know technology doesn't mean you know how to be

700
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: a good father. That mean you know how to be

701
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: a good husband. That mean you know how to rest,

702
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: That mean you know how to stop. You can bring

703
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: something to the table too. It's we're not talking about

704
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: welfare here. We're talking about exchanging strengths from one to

705
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: the other. Because you can learn something, but you can

706
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: also teach something and together we become better people because

707
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: of it.

708
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Let's let's approach this technology challenge. Not as though technology

709
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: is going to replace human connection, right, but it's going

710
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: to accelerate human connection.

711
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: You know, you know better than anybody the.

712
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Role that faith can play, Yes, and uplifting people who

713
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: are struggling. Yes, I think technology can even accelerate that.

714
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: There's a group that we work with called care Portal,

715
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: and I love to turn you onto care Portal.

716
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: It's an incredible organization and it's very simple technology. It's

717
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: a needs offers market.

718
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: It's kids who are struggling and are at risk of

719
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: being taken away from their family and put in a

720
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Speaker 1: foster care. Rather than the nurse or the teacher or

721
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: the social worker reporting their situation to Child Protective Welfare

722
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Speaker 1: child Protective Services, they put their need on this technology platform.

723
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Speaker 1: Johnny came to school four days in a row with

724
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: the same clothes. His mom needs a new washing machine.

725
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: And then care Portal on the other side of the

726
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: technology they go in and they recruit churches because congregations

727
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: are natural sources of support, but they don't necessarily know

728
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: who needs their support, so this technology platform connects them.

729
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Speaker 1: But what's really important about this the church doesn't just

730
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: send the dollars so that Johnny's mom can buy a

731
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Speaker 1: new washing machine. The church delivers that washing machine and

732
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: at the same time delivers community, well delivers personal relationships. Says, hey,

733
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Speaker 1: if you need a washing machine, there's probably something else

734
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: going on. How else can we help? And they engage

735
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: in long term relationships because this technology helped them to

736
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: discover where they can.

737
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Speaker 3: Make a difference.

738
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Speaker 1: That's amazing we think about technology is accelerating human relationships

739
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: rather than replacing them. It can be a force for

740
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Speaker 1: good at a scale that just hadn't been possible before.

741
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: Then there's chapter number seven measuring impact. If we take

742
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Speaker 2: the time to think of it from a positive perspective

743
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: instead of a negative one. It is proven that it

744
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: secretes hormones in the brain that causes us to be

745
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: more healthy in our thinking. It changes not only our psychology,

746
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: but even the biology and the physical components of the

747
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: brain flurries when we just have positive thoughts. I have

748
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: been working on making sure that my thoughts were healthy

749
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: before my life was healthy, because my life can't be

750
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: healthy if my thoughts are negative. And learning how to

751
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: have and you have to work at it. You have

752
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: to because you have to break old habits up. You know,

753
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: there you go again until you get yourself into a

754
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: place that you can you can look at technology, you

755
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: can look at life, you can look at the future,

756
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: and instead of saying it's all bad and the good

757
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: old days are gone, you can say, the good old

758
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: days are ahead, and I got to go see what's

759
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: going to happen next.

760
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: This is there's so much wisdom in what you just said.

761
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: This idea that we have to sacrifice to help others,

762
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't believe that right. I think when we help

763
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: each other, when we help others, we help ourselves.

764
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: That's right.

765
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: And when we find those opportunities we call that mutual benefit.

766
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: It's one of our principles.

767
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

768
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: When we find opportunities to succeed by helping each other succeed,

769
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: you expand the pie.

770
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, everybody's better off everybody. If you've ever been

771
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: to the hospital to visit somebody who was sick and

772
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: you came in to encourage them and left encourage that's right.

773
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: It's the most shocking thing in your life because you

774
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: came in there to lift the burden up off of them,

775
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: and they fool around and lift the burden up off

776
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: from you. All of us have something to offer. That's right,

777
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: we have something to give to me. Success requires metrics. Yes,

778
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: you'll only know that you've gone a yard if you've

779
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: got some measurement to measure with a mouth is signified

780
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: by some metric. How do you how do you measure

781
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: success as the operation of what you're trying to do

782
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: to be the people?

783
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: You know, you're only as good as the information that

784
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: you've got.

785
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Right, if you're going to make decisions about groups to support, programs,

786
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: to begin projects, to walk away from because they didn't work,

787
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: you've got to have the data. You've got to have

788
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: the information and the information that powers that fuels the

789
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: social sector, whether that's philanthropy or government programs.

790
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: It's lousy, it's really bad information.

791
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: And so we shouldn't be surprised that a lot of

792
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: the outcomes that we see in the social sector, in

793
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: government programs or allows the outcomes. You know, what is

794
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: it sixty seventy years of the War on poverty, twenty

795
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: trillion dollars from philanthropy and government programs, and when what

796
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: do we have to show for it? When I look

797
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: at the outcomes? You know, I think at best you

798
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: can say we've made poverty a little bit easier to endure, maybe,

799
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: but still very difficult to escape. And so this question

800
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: of how do you measure is so so important. At

801
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Stand Together about four years ago, we introduced a novel

802
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: concept in the social sector. We said, if our goal,

803
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: ultimately our goal of everything that we do, no matter

804
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: what the program is, our goal is to help empower

805
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: people to become their best self. We believe that people

806
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: have potential. We help We helped to empower them to

807
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: realize their potential. How can we find out whether a

808
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: program for the homeless, a program that's a women's shelter,

809
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: a program for education, different programs. How can we find

810
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: out whether they're working? The novel concept of this, how

811
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: about we ask the people who've been served? Right, all

812
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: of this measurement all of the data. We measure inputs,

813
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: how much money was spent, We measure outputs, how many

814
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: beds were filled.

815
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: Very seldom do.

816
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: We measure outcomes. And who knows the outcome best. It's

817
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: the people who are struggling. Absolutely, And so this project

818
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: we call Customer First Measurement, and it's a data platform

819
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: that artificial intelligence. We talked about the technology tools enabling

820
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: people to succeed if we apply them right. It's an

821
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: example of that. It's a data platform that through texts

822
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: because most people these days now have a phone, will

823
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: follow up with somebody who's been referred or who's seen

824
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization or a government service, three days, three weeks,

825
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: three months.

826
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Speaker 3: Whatever the right interval is, how to go that's good.

827
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Speaker 1: Is this a project that met your needs that's important

828
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: to know or is this a project that transformed your life?

829
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: Because if it's a project that transformed your life, we

830
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: want to know more about that project. We want to

831
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: bring resources to that project, and we want to most

832
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: importantly recommend other people in a similar position they go

833
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: to that project and.

834
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: Not the one that didn't meet their needs.

835
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: So this.

836
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Speaker 1: Is a to my mind, this is a project and

837
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Speaker 1: this approach again believe in people, the people who are struggling.

838
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: They are not problems to be solved. They are most

839
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: often the source of the solution. And if we believe

840
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: that they have the knowledge that can fuel this whole

841
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: social sector. To my mind, a project like this, like

842
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: customer first measurement, it can transform the entire social sector,

843
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: turn it on its head and actually focus on. Are

844
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: we helping the people that are being served not just

845
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: to overcome whatever barriers in front of them, but to

846
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: transform themselves so that whatever barrier comes are going.

847
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Speaker 2: To be Okay, that's excellent. You know, I have met

848
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: a lot of people who have started on this entrepreneurial journey,

849
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: and as you know, it is not easy. No, no,

850
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: what can we do to make that more palatable and

851
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: more successful? I mean, we can go in the HQ app,

852
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: we can encourage each other, we can be exposed to tutorials,

853
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: we can learn better how to officially do what we do.

854
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: Most time, most of the time people go into business

855
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: because they have a talent, but not a teaching and

856
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: so we can do that part of it. We can

857
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: do grants, we can help people to get up on

858
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: their feet. But what else can we do to be

859
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: able to facilitate the American dream and bring it down

860
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: out of the sky and put it within the reach

861
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Speaker 2: of the average person who's struggling to make bills meet.

862
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Speaker 1: Well, this is definitely an instance of the teacher asking

863
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: the student, you have you have the wisdom on this one?

864
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Speaker 3: Bishop.

865
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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the reasons that we were immediately

866
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Speaker 1: attracted to working with each other those those many years ago,

867
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Speaker 1: is because of this metaphor that you've come up with

868
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: of good soil. And so I think the first thing

869
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: that we have to do is we have to recognize

870
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Speaker 1: that communities that are underinvested are not underinvested because they

871
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: don't have value.

872
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: They are good soil.

873
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: That requires the cultivation, the planting within, and the support,

874
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: the nurturing to realize the potential. And to me, that

875
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: is and and you say it much better than I

876
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: just did, but to me that is, that is. That

877
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: is the answer to your question. And then and then

878
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: it's how how do we do that? And and I think,

879
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, to my mind, we have to follow the

880
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: lead of those entrepreneurs. You know, we're not here to

881
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: tell them what to do. We're here to ask them

882
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: what we can do and what and what they need.

883
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: And often that's that's trust, that's experience, that's camaraderie. And yes,

884
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: that's capital, that's investment, but it's that whole ecosystem that

885
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: you surround them with. You know, people look at entrepreneurs

886
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: as business leaders, and certainly they are, and they create

887
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: value for themselves, their families, their communities by providing a

888
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: service and by bringing capital into those communities, and it's

889
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: it's exponential that it compounds. But I think they're more

890
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: than that. I think entrepreneurs are the heroes of our

891
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: society because if we we believe in progress, right, we

892
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: believe that no matter how well we're doing now, we

893
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: can always do better. Who are the ones that are

894
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: taking the risk to discover what comes next? They're the entrepreneurs,

895
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: and so they're driving us forward, not just through their business,

896
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: but through their courage and through their discovery. And it's

897
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurs that are helping to to redefine what's possible

898
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: and to move us forward.

899
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: So what do we need to do.

900
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: We need to encourage them, we need to support them,

901
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: and we need to believe in them because they are

902
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: really helping us to make sure that we do all

903
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: we can into the future.

904
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: My mom had a habit of doing something on Sundays.

905
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: We would go to a restaurant that we couldn't afford

906
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: to eat in and we would go there and have dessert.

907
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: She put us in an atmosphere with people who were

908
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: going places and doing things until it felt natural. Success

909
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: doesn't feel natural to somebody who's only known struggle, and

910
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: if you've always nursed at the breastplate of struggle, success

911
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: seems foreign, and you will go back to struggle just

912
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: because it's familiar. People ask why I do abusive for

913
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: him and go back to the same man again. Sometimes

914
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: it's because it's familiar. Why do x cons end up

915
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: back in jail again? Because it's intimidating to come out

916
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: in the world where there are no phone boosts anymore,

917
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: there no taxi cabs in the world has changed, and

918
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: they go back to what's familiar. Change your familiar and

919
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: go into new territory until you put it on and

920
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: it becomes a part of your life. Learn how to golf,

921
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: learn how to play chess, learn how to do something

922
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: that's different than what you normally do. You don't have

923
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: to be good at it. You can suck at it.

924
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: You can do like I do and eat more grass

925
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: than you do ball. But it's okay because it's not

926
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: the golf that you're going for. It's a camaraderie and

927
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: it's the listening and overhearing things that irrigate the way

928
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 2: you think with another perspective that changes your life. Chapter

929
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 2: number eight. Be the people you.

930
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: Know, we work with these entrepreneurs that are solving problems

931
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: in communities, and two of them have used the same

932
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: phrase with me, which which I think captures what you

933
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: just said. They say, we dream what we see. Yeah,

934
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: we dream what we see, and if all we see

935
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: is struggle, we don't dream beyond that.

936
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: That's right.

937
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: But if we see people who are like us, who

938
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: have overcome barriers like we've overcome, we see that we

939
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: can dream that that can be us as well. And

940
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: so I think what you just said is so smart

941
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: and so important. Get out there and experience other other

942
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: things and set your sights higher than you might otherwise.

943
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a big part of some of the

944
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: secret to the successful organizations we support.

945
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: I just hope the people who have been listening at

946
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: us are as excited as we are and motivated as

947
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: we are. I'm ready to go out and slay a

948
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: giant somewhere.

949
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

950
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: After talking to you, I think it's I think it's highly,

951
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: highly possible, And I hope you are really taking in

952
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: the sincerity the death and the wisdom that's being imparted

953
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: to you to share today. Thank you for doing that

954
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 2: for us. One of the things you mentioned. You alluded

955
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: to a campaign and costs you have now called be

956
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: the People.

957
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: Be the People.

958
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: Yes, And when I first heard that title, it reminded

959
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 2: me of a conversation I had while I walk around

960
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: the house talking to myself. So you might want to

961
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: learn about that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, talking to myself.

962
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: I was just frustrated us. Somebody how to do something.

963
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: Somebody had to do something. A voice inside of me said,

964
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: why can't that somebody be you?

965
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: You've said this to me before, when you look at

966
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: the problems that people are facing. The message to the

967
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: American people is we are the people that we've been

968
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: waiting exactly. You are the people that you've been waiting exactly.

969
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: And that's what Be the People is. It's a call

970
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: to action too.

971
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: And not just for one group. I noticed the diversity

972
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: that you included around the table takes all of them.

973
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King the third to all types of people

974
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: from different walks of life, for an infusion of thought

975
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: and perspective that often people are trying to fix it

976
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: force and not with us.

977
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: That's right.

978
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: You seem to be more inclusive in your thought process.

979
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: Is that natural or did you think that.

980
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: Through Well, you know, I appreciate you you're recognizing that,

981
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: and it's certainly the thing that attracts to me and

982
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: stand together to this project Be the People. But Be

983
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: the People is a collaborative project between dozens of organizations.

984
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: At this point, there's fifty two members of this National

985
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Leadership Council, which you've been so kind to join you.

986
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: And so what you see is the product of the

987
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: experience of so many groups and individuals, people who have

988
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: come to a similar conclusion that if we want the

989
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: kind of country that we know that we can have,

990
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: then it's up to each of us to find the

991
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: part that we can play to make things better.

992
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: And that's the idea of be the People.

993
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: If we want a country of the people, by the people,

994
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: and for the people, it's up to each one of

995
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: us to play our part to be the people.

996
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 3: And so, you know, at a time when.

997
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: The majority of Americans have lost faith in each other, right,

998
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: And I saw a study the other day which has

999
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: been very formative for me. The Pew Research Center has

1000
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: been tracking this for thirty plus years. They ask the

1001
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: American people, do you believe that the American people can

1002
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: solve our own problems? And over the last thirty years, it's,

1003
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, sixty percent say yes. Sometimes it's seventy percent

1004
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: say yes. For the past three years, it's less than

1005
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: half half the people say they believe that we can

1006
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: solve our own problems. And when you lose faith in

1007
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: each other, you know, bad things happen. And so be

1008
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: the people. Is an opportunity to connect every person, every

1009
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: person to the opportunity to make a difference in the

1010
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: lives of others and to make a difference in their community.

1011
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: And the thing about this, we talked about this, we're

1012
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: not pitching anybody. We know this is what people want.

1013
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: The majority of people, when you ask them what does

1014
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: it mean to live the good life, they'll tell you

1015
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: it means making a difference in the lives of those

1016
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: that I care about, the lives of those.

1017
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: In my community.

1018
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: But when you ask people how you doing it that,

1019
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: only about thirty percent of Americans say they feel like

1020
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: they're fulfilling that that aspiration, that goal.

1021
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: So there's this huge.

1022
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: Gap between what people want to do do and frankly,

1023
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: what we need everybody to do if we want the

1024
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of future that we know, we can have huge

1025
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: gap between that and what people are actually doing. So

1026
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: be the people helps to bring the opportunities to make

1027
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: a difference in a community. Hundreds, ultimately thousands of organizations

1028
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: that are doing the real work in communities to solve

1029
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: problems in people's lives, together with the tens of millions

1030
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: of Americans who are already raising their hand and saying

1031
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: they want to help.

1032
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: They just don't know how.

1033
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: You know, the thing about it is, this is not

1034
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: really a new concept. It's been in the dna of

1035
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: your organization for a long time. You've been in the

1036
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: grassroots working with people who have been previously incarcerated. You've

1037
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: been working with us because so health and entrepreneurs to

1038
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: get up on their feet and show them that you

1039
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: do have the power to get access to capital and

1040
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 2: get a push, get a shove to get started. Once

1041
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: you get rolling, you got to roll on your own.

1042
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: But we want to get you started, and you've helped

1043
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: to do that, and we're very, very grateful to be

1044
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: in partnership with you and doing that. You've and that's

1045
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: just a miniscule part of all the things that you've

1046
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: done around the world. Philosophically, You've been doing this for

1047
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: a long time, but I want to point out something.

1048
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty years sounds like a long time

1049
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: for somebody that's not quite seventy yet. But in actuality,

1050
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: we're a very young country.

1051
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: That's right.

1052
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: We're a very adolescent country, and we bear all the

1053
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: attributes of adolescents. Who am I, Why am I? Where

1054
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: am I? Don't tell me anything, I'll do it on

1055
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: my own. You know, we're going through through the adolescence.

1056
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: I have a twelve year old. You just described my

1057
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: breakfast this morning.

1058
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: We're going through that, and we need to be parented

1059
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: and stewarded, yes, through this transition. Because the founding fathers

1060
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: had a brilliant idea. They didn't always live up to it,

1061
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: but they had a brilliant idea. We must realize that

1062
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: the idea is still embryotic compared to what it's ultimately

1063
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: going to be if our generation passes the test of

1064
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: making it bigger and making it better and making it

1065
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: more inclusive. And inclusion has become a dirty word, but

1066
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: inclusion is up and down the streets of America. Now.

1067
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Look, every time we have done more as a country

1068
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: to expand the we in we the people, we have

1069
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: all benefited. We have done better, and so I couldn't

1070
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: agree with you more. The project of America is never done.

1071
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: The problem that a lot of people have when they

1072
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: think about that is that that project is for somebody

1073
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: else to do. It's for the experts on high to

1074
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: do to us, and that's never worked.

1075
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: No, it is for all.

1076
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: Of us, with our own lived experience to find how

1077
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: we are the best people to solve the problem in

1078
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: front of us, and for all of us to realize

1079
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: this project. Can I tell you you said this is

1080
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: a product of a of a lot of work we've done,

1081
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: and he couldn't be more right. Can I tell you

1082
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: a story about something that inspired this. Dozens of experiences

1083
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: over the past twenty years have inspired this for us.

1084
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: But one of them is in your backyard. And I

1085
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: wonder if you know Billy Daide Middle School. Yes, in

1086
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: South Dallas. It's a rough place. First time I was

1087
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: there was about ten years ago, and I was invited

1088
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: in by a group that we work with out of Dallas,

1089
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: a group called Urban Specialists.

1090
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Speaker 3: An Urban Specialist at the.

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Speaker 1: Time was led by a man who became a dear

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Speaker 1: friend and a mentor of mine, got named Omar Jahwar.

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Speaker 1: Omar was a bishop, and he was the first guy

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Speaker 1: that the State of Texas put into the prison system

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: to negotiate gang truces, and they did that when he

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Speaker 1: was nineteen, which kind of tells you just how brilliant

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Speaker 1: this guy was. And Omar ran an Urban Specialist, which

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Speaker 1: was a group of people, most of them for incarcerated,

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Speaker 1: many of them gang involved, who had kind of reformed

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Speaker 1: their life, and they would go into schools and they'd

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Speaker 1: put their arm around the kids who were kind of

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Speaker 1: repeating the same mistakes that these guys had made. It's

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Speaker 1: usually about ten percent of the kids that caused most

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Speaker 1: of the trouble in a school, and they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: listen to anybody, but they're gonna listen to Anton Lucky,

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Speaker 1: who was Omar's partner at Even Specialists, who used to

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: run the Blood's gang out of Dallas, and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't make the same mistakes I did. So the story

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Speaker 1: I want to share though, is this is about eight

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Speaker 1: years ago something like that. The principal at Billy Dade

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Speaker 1: Middle School, her name was Emily Washington, phenomenal woman. She

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Speaker 1: had a vision for how to approve this school, and

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Speaker 1: so she started a project that she called a day

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Speaker 1: for fathers.

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Speaker 3: Very simple.

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Speaker 1: She said, look, Tuesday at eight thirty, all the fathers

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: of the young men in this and the kids in

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Speaker 1: this middle school show up. We're gonna spend a day together,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna put your arm on their shoulder and

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Speaker 1: you're going to show them you know how to look

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Speaker 1: people in the eye, how to have self respect and

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Speaker 1: respect others. As soon as they issued this call, they

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01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: realized this could backfire because a lot of the kids

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Speaker 1: at the school didn't have a father in their life right,

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Speaker 1: and so if everybody else's dad showed up but not

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Speaker 1: there as they could reinforce the negative. It's about sixty

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Speaker 1: kids in the school. They didn't have a dad that

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Speaker 1: was going to show up. So Principal Washington turned to

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Speaker 1: Omar and Antong at Urban Specialists and said, hey, can

1130
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: you guys put out a call to the community. Any

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: men in the community in anywhere in Dallas show up

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01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: eight thirty on Tuesday and be a surrogate.

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Speaker 3: For these kids. Put your hand on their shoulder and

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Speaker 3: spend the day with us.

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Speaker 1: They needed about sixty They figured they probably wouldn't get sixty,

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Speaker 1: then maybe they'd get twenty.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they get thirty. They could double these kids up.

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Speaker 1: Simple email that urban specialists sent out to the people

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: that they knew in Dallas eight thirty in the morning

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01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It wasn't twenty men, it wasn't sixty men.

1141
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: It was six hundred men from Dallas all over the city,

1142
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: not just South Dallas, all over the city.

1143
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: They showed up. They had a double and triple up

1144
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: guys on kids. Yeah, and to me, that's the lesson

1145
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: of the potential in our country.

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what every well not every but most

1147
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: Americans are thinking, what can I do?

1148
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 3: I do?

1149
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: You know? And you're sitting here listening at us right

1150
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: now or watching us and trying to figure out how

1151
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: do I get involved with the people? You are the

1152
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: people number one? And being empowered by what can they

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01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: do beyond that to really get in grafted.

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01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Well be the people puts a name to a movement

1155
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: that is already happening in communities across the country. So

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: the first thing they can do is keep doing what

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The story I just told you is a story.

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Speaker 1: There's stories like that, and we're in thirteen hundred communities

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01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: that stand together, and you can tell a similar story

1162
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: of people showing up when they're asked to help. It

1163
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: happens all the time, just not breaking through. So step

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Speaker 1: number one is keep doing what you're doing. But if

1165
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: you're not involved in your community, do two things. Ask yourself,

1166
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: what do you care about? What is a problem that

1167
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: you see that you wish somebody would solve? And then

1168
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: do something to help the people that are struggling or

1169
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: the people that just need a little bit of a

1170
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: handout to solve a problem. Do something to help others.

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Speaker 1: And then what's most.

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Speaker 3: Important is tell people about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because when you tell people about your experience, guess

1174
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: what I did. You know, I showed up and I

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: shoveled my neighbor's driver, or I showed up with Habitat

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: for Humanity and I spent you know, a few hours

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Speaker 1: building a wall. If you've got three seconds, if you've

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: got three minutes, if you've got three hours, you can

1179
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Speaker 1: make a difference. And if you don't have that opportunity,

1180
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Speaker 1: if you don't know where that is. Bethepeople dot org

1181
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: is a digital platform that brings those problem solvers in

1182
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: communities together with anybody who wants to make a difference,

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01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: and then it allows you to tell your story, because

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Speaker 1: when you do, you inspire others to do it.

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that goes even deeper

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01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: than that. You have to first realize that you have

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: a seed, a talent, a gift that is uniquely yours.

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01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: Whether you're a homemaker or whether you're a chemical engineer,

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: you have something to bring to the table that would

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Speaker 2: make a difference. And then out of that capsule, out

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: of that seed, out of that embryo, building a circle

1192
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: of people that broaden it, that have what you don't have.

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: It's the beginning of transformation. That's what we do with

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: good soil HQ, and you can download that and be

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: a part of that. If you're an entrepreneur interested in it,

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: maybe been scared of it, didn't think you had what

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: it took. It takes more than talent now, because just

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,959
Speaker 2: because you're just because you can fry chicken means doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean you how to open up a chicken shast, right, okay,

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Speaker 2: But it does mean that you can possibly surround yourself

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: with the leadership, the business people, the accountants, the acumen

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: to become successful. You may not realize that you are

1203
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: the people. It is very easy, especially if you grew

1204
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: up in an environment where somebody told you what you

1205
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: were not. It is very easy to get to the

1206
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: point that you think you have nothing to offer, or

1207
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm too old, or I'm retired, or it's too late.

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: You are never too old or too young to make

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: a difference. Whether you're a kid and a grade school

1210
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: playground to whether you're a senior citizen and a senior

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: living facility. You can still you have a light to shine,

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01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: and the smallest light will light up the darkest room,

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01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: It will eat that darkness up. And I hope today

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: that we have been in some way compelling persuasive. You've

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01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: certainly been charismatic enough to cause people to think that

1216
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: that it is possible. And I hope that you walk

1217
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: away with the idea that there are other people like you,

1218
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: whether they get on the TV or not, who really

1219
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: care about this country going into its fullest maturity, its

1220
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Speaker 2: brightest light, the opiate of what the founding fathers hope

1221
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Speaker 2: for it to be. We've got a lot of work

1222
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: to do. We're long ways from that idea that city

1223
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: set up on a hill, but we can climb to

1224
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: the top of that hill, and our generation owes it

1225
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: to the next generation to strap on our boots and

1226
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: start moving in the right direction. I don't want to

1227
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: take advantage of your time, but as we prepare to close,

1228
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: what do you think about in this hour, with these tools,

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01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: with this benefit, with the fact that everybody can make

1230
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: a movie from a phone, what can we begin to

1231
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: do to dispel the mississ seems it's like all the

1232
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: people who want to produce product are the very people

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: who we don't need to hear from.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you know, Charles Cook and I co authored

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 1: a book called Believe In People, and I think that

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01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: that is the message that every single person has something

1237
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: to contribute, and the solutions to our problems are going

1238
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: to start with a deep belief in people, in all people.

1239
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: And then everybody needs a little bit of help to

1240
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: figure out how they can contribute. And so if we can,

1241
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: if we can help people to discover their spark, and

1242
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: then as you say, you know, give a little bit

1243
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: of oxygen, right, let it grow. You're going to light

1244
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: the way for others to come into that project, that conversation,

1245
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: and ultimately that's what it takes to move our country forward.

1246
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: It's what it's always taken to move our country forward.

1247
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: If you look at the great social movements, the things

1248
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: that have transformed our society for the best, it didn't

1249
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: start from the top down. It started from everyday people

1250
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: who saw a problem and they figured out, what's the

1251
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: first thing that I need to do to start to

1252
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: solve that problem. They didn't figure out how to solve

1253
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: it all at once. And when other people said, you

1254
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: know what, I care about that too, and they went first,

1255
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to join them, all of a sudden,

1256
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: you've got a society that's been transformed by everyday people

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: from the bottom up.

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Speaker 2: I loved the fact that you had the courage to

1259
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: say that the change is going to come from the bottom.

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Speaker 3: From the bottom up every single time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That was my favorite line because

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01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: so many times we tried to do it from the

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: top down and it never got down to the people

1264
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 2: who needed it most un till they got discouraged. I

1265
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: want to say this before we close it. I think

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: it's very very important. I think that Brian and I

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: represent a lesson just by sitting here together. We don't

1268
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: look alike, we're not the same skin tone, we didn't

1269
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: go to the same schools. We may not have the

1270
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: same proclivities or habits. But we found common ground in

1271
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: coming together. And in order to find common ground, you

1272
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: have to lose your fear of different. You have to

1273
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: lose your fear of different. It is not my job

1274
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: to make Brian be TD. It is not my job.

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 3: That'll be a hard job.

1276
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And it's surely in my job to be him.

1277
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: But we complement each other real will our differences in nature,

1278
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: the be cross pollinates follen from a lot of different

1279
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: flowers that cause us fruit to spring forth. So get

1280
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: out of the little bubble, the safety zone, the little

1281
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: cubicle that you're in, and overcome the fear to engage

1282
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: people in the slightest ways who seem to have similar

1283
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 2: values as you do. And let's get this thing, starting

1284
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: it off the ground and get it up and go on.

1285
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty years, I will celebrate fifty years

1286
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: in ministry at the same time you're celebrating. We're celebrating

1287
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty years in this country. We've come

1288
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: a long ways in this country, We've got a long

1289
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: ways to go. My great grandmother was born in this

1290
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: country a slave, and her great great grandson is helping

1291
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: to shape in some small way, the texture the tenor

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: of the destiny of this country. It doesn't look like

1293
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: it all the time because the news never shows the

1294
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: planes that land. It only shows the ones that crash.

1295
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 2: But there are changes coming hold on. We're going through

1296
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 2: some rough waters and some turbulent times. I was looking

1297
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 2: at the Stark Market that's going up and down, and

1298
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 2: it's got a little flutter in it right now. There's

1299
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on right now that would

1300
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 2: give you angst, depending on where you are in life.

1301
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: But there's been that before. We've seen it go all

1302
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: the way down to the bottom and we came back

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Speaker 2: up again. We've seen wars and rumors of wars and

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Speaker 2: we came back up again. We are strong people, and

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Speaker 2: we are only strong as our weakest link. So let's

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Speaker 2: get together and help make a difference. It has been

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Speaker 2: an amazing joy to listen at your brilliance and your expertise.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for the opportunity, Bishop Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I will maybe and my comments where we started. Grateful

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Speaker 1: for the opportunity, grateful for the partnership and all that

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 3: So thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor for me Thank you, sir, God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get to work and be the people that

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Speaker 2: we've been waiting on. I'm TD Jakes and I'm proud

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Speaker 2: to have this opportunity to introduce or share with those

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Speaker 2: of you who don't know this brilliant, brilliant individual, and

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Speaker 2: more importantly, to challenge you to be the people that

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Speaker 2: we're calling for. This might be your next chapter, think

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Speaker 2: about it and turn the page. Hey everybody, I want

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Speaker 2: to take this time to thank you for watching the

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Speaker 2: Next Chapter podcast. If this conversation inspired you, helped you

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