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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast will only answer to Mr

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Speaker 1: Big Chess. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and I am

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Speaker 1: joined in a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosittal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Free

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Speaker 1: agency week is here. It's here, boys, And you know

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Speaker 1: how I know it's an important week because Mark's got

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Speaker 1: message at a forty two group text message labeled under

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Speaker 1: a t N boys. That's how I that's a subhead

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Speaker 1: for the group boys with a zo from Mark Sesler

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Speaker 1: wearing a sports coat today. That's how you know this

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Speaker 1: is a big week. A lot of times I try

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Speaker 1: and um, I'm not saying it's only for that reason,

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Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, so I thought I'm gonna go up the ladder. Now.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, though, there's a little bit of ambition

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Speaker 1: bleeding out of the pores here, sweating out of the ports.

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Speaker 1: You want to kill it. This week. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the eyes of the world, football in the world inside

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Speaker 1: this building. What are the A T N guys gonna say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we have NFL dot com shows, video shows going up,

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Speaker 1: we got our Twitter show coming up, we got four

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Speaker 1: pods coming up this week. It's your time to shine,

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Speaker 1: it's marks time. Well, I mean it's none of that

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Speaker 1: up in a sports code this specific week, But the

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Speaker 1: idea that you would put it as personal ambition is misdiagnosed.

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Speaker 1: West brought up big velvet, So yes, this is a

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Speaker 1: big week. Yeah, you're you're We're in a place where

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Speaker 1: we're competing with West's wardrobe at this point too. I

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Speaker 1: mean where he was two years ago, three years ago

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Speaker 1: with his clothing. He'd be wearing like an NFL Network

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Speaker 1: That was That was an old West move, and West

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Speaker 1: have thought kind of like, you're a defensive minded head

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Speaker 1: happy that he's getting or she in this case, and

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Speaker 1: it's a busy week. Should we just start this show

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Speaker 1: better not be about Paul Rising or anything breaking news sources.

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Speaker 1: According to Ian Rappaport, former Giant star Landon Collins is

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Speaker 1: signing with the Washington Redskins for eighty four million dollars

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Speaker 1: Played against him twice a year every year, and saw

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Speaker 1: the move. Another one is Nick Foles. It's been speculated

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Speaker 1: This is about Nick Foles, the person too. They really

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Speaker 1: The Eagles also signed Deshan Jackson UH to eight new,

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Speaker 1: was on fire last year with Ryan Fitzpatrick, who has

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Speaker 1: about it because it went down over the weekend finally, uh,

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Speaker 1: and it was the team that we were told early

427
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Speaker 1: last week and about the the one horse race. Uh,

428
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Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders were gonna get Antonio Brown. And then

429
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Speaker 1: the of course the Bills report that turned out to

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Speaker 1: be uh not come through in the and and Antonio

431
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Speaker 1: Brown was not going to the Buffalo Bills. Well, he

432
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Speaker 1: goes to the Oakland Raiders and it comes um on

433
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Speaker 1: a great bargain for John Gruden and Mike Mayhawkin company.

434
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Speaker 1: One of the best receivers in the league goes to

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Speaker 1: Oakland in exchange for a third round pick and a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick uh in next month's draft. And Uh.

437
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: Brown then turns around and gets that contract that he wanted.

438
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Speaker 1: The man is getting everything he wanted. He gets a

439
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Speaker 1: three year deal worth fifty point one million maxes out

440
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Speaker 1: just under fifty five UM, roughly twelve million more than

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Speaker 1: his old contract thirty million guaranteed. Gregg, you wrote about

442
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Speaker 1: this on the dot com, UH and your lead. Nice

443
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Speaker 1: way to get into the piece. I enjoy it as

444
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Speaker 1: a reader of sports content. It worked. I mean, at

445
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Speaker 1: the end everything Antonio Brown did, whether you like it

446
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Speaker 1: or not, in who would really like, you know, just

447
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: enjoy everything that's gone on since December. Ultimately, he believed

448
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: he had the leverage to get out of Pittsburgh and

449
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Speaker 1: to get more money. And I'm a little surprised that

450
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Speaker 1: he was able to pull it all off. And it

451
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Speaker 1: shows how desperate to see how the Steelers were to

452
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Speaker 1: get rid of him that they took virtually nothing in return.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, a third and fifth round pick is fine,

454
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Speaker 1: but that's what they if you if you're a third

455
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Speaker 1: round pick for the dollar for a guy of this ability,

456
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Speaker 1: it is and and Brown gets gets the money that

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Speaker 1: he wants. I mean, he was probably one of the

458
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Speaker 1: best values in the league for much of his career

459
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Speaker 1: and now uh he has made sure to earn to

460
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Speaker 1: maximize his earnings because he also got paid about eighteen

461
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Speaker 1: nineteen million a year over the last two years. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'd say this if he had gone

463
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Speaker 1: to say Tennessee or something, but it was a move

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Speaker 1: that the minute it became Oakland's new player, that it

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Speaker 1: immediately ship did for me. The where we are with

466
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Speaker 1: a couple of NFL franchises, those that didn't go get

467
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, but the Raiders, who I mean, we're essentially,

468
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Speaker 1: in many ways last year the most disappointing team in

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Speaker 1: the league. For all the hype and hoop law all

470
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Speaker 1: last offseason about Gruden in the way that they tore

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Speaker 1: the roster down, and now that the way they're building

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Speaker 1: up the Raider, the Raiders are interesting again. I guess

473
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Speaker 1: I I could find myself being tired of them quickly.

474
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Speaker 1: But if they go out and they make a play

475
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Speaker 1: for Levan Bell or whoever else, it is like this

476
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: was the aggressive signpost of how they're they're gonna try

477
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Speaker 1: to team build with grooden veterans and big, pricey pieces.

478
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see anything resembling a plan there,

479
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Speaker 1: unless it's Okay, last year we were too far away

480
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Speaker 1: to worry about building a team. Now we're close to

481
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Speaker 1: moving to Vegas, so he wants some names and headlines

482
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Speaker 1: on our team. I don't. I don't think there is

483
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Speaker 1: like an overarching plan. It's just reacting to whatever happens

484
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Speaker 1: in the moment and what we can talk about Trent

485
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Speaker 1: Brown in a minute. But the fact that they draft

486
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Speaker 1: two tackles with their first three picks of the John

487
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Speaker 1: Grew ne Era and then they pay a huge amount

488
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Speaker 1: of money to Trent Brown tells me they're just kind

489
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: of reacting. Now when you look at the Marii Cooper

490
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Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown deal separately, and even Khalil Mack, they're

491
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Speaker 1: all very different. I mean, this Antonio Brown is is

492
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Speaker 1: short term money. I would I would personally rather have

493
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown uh by a decent amount compared to Marie

494
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Speaker 1: Cooper over the next couple of years. And I would

495
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Speaker 1: uh not necessarily be comfortable giving a huge long term

496
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Speaker 1: contract to Amari Cooper and you got a first round

497
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Speaker 1: picking the deal. So if you're just looking at what

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Speaker 1: they did in terms of the wide receiver position, I

499
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Speaker 1: love it because I you can I agree that maybe

500
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Speaker 1: the plan isn't like crystal Clear, but they the other

501
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Speaker 1: thing could have happened. They could have been fleeced in

502
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Speaker 1: this trade, and they they absolutely got him for less

503
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Speaker 1: than most people would have predicted. But salary, cap space

504
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: and cash is as valuable as draft picks. So they

505
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Speaker 1: didn't give up the draft picks, but they're giving up

506
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Speaker 1: a ton of cash. And Antonio Brown did not get

507
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Speaker 1: everything he wanted. He wanted to play for a Super

508
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Speaker 1: Bowl contender, and he's joining the worst him in the

509
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Speaker 1: an f C along with the Jets. Over last. You

510
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: just get the sense that that was not that was

511
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: lower on his priority, but it's not everything he wanted.

512
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: He did want to play for a contender. Now he's

513
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Speaker 1: playing for a team that's not really relevant. I see

514
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more vision to the Grouden move in

515
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Speaker 1: the sense that I think he got there and his

516
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: number first objective was to tear it all down, strip

517
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Speaker 1: it down for parts because and a lot of these

518
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: guys parcels was another guy. If you're at a certain level,

519
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: the ego, whatever or the past success, you wanted to

520
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: make it your team. This I am going to build

521
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: this thing from the ground up and and anything I

522
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: inherit doesn't mean you stay. Even a guy as great

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Speaker 1: as Khalil Mack. I mean, that's what group that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just because you didn't drink Khalil mac doesn't

525
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: mean that he's not one of the on defense. I'm

526
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Speaker 1: not saying that was the right move, but I'm saying

527
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Speaker 1: he's entitled to that. And when he gets the ten

528
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: year deal, that's the organization making the commitment to you

529
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Speaker 1: do what you want to make us a contender. And

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Speaker 1: I think you know, And yes, we'll bring up that

531
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Trent Brown just got one of the biggest contracts ever

532
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Speaker 1: uh to play left tackle for the Raiders, leaving the

533
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Speaker 1: Patriots after one good season. I don't think that's a

534
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: good signing, but it's a it's a sign that he

535
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: is looking now to build this team in his vision

536
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: and we'll see how it works out. I'm interested to

537
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: see how. I wonder if Growden too, because again I

538
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: go back to the combine, he just seemed like a

539
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: different John growd into me. And I wonder if last

540
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: year took a bigger toll where if it was going

541
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Speaker 1: to be a two or three year tear down, the

542
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: pr hit was far greater than it would have been

543
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: twenty years ago when there's just less media coverage of

544
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: the NFL in general, and maybe whatever the plan was

545
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: shifted midstream well. And and it had been a while

546
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Speaker 1: since he had lost games as a coach, and he

547
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: hadn't been through a season like that ever, Is that

548
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: safe to say? And going through a miserable season like

549
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: that is gonna change how you think and and and

550
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: the key thing to me is Antonio Brown is awesome.

551
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Matt Harman, I think he's still Raiders are paying big

552
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: money for his decline phase there. It's really a two

553
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: year contract. The third year they'll decide when when they

554
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: get there and he's paid. They're paying a lot. They're

555
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: paying what the Chiefs they're paying a free They're paying

556
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: as if he was a free agent, which is seems

557
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: kind of unnecessary. But it's ultimately a three four million

558
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: dollar raised than what he was getting. But they're paying

559
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: him what Sammy Watkins got last year. I mean, let's

560
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: not get carried away. It's just sort of like a

561
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: mid you know, it's a free agent wide receiver pay.

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Speaker 1: If you look at Matt Harmon's reception perception, our our

563
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: old friend, he had Antonio Brown getting open on a

564
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: higher percentage of of snaps than basically any receiver in

565
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Speaker 1: the league still last year, and that over the last

566
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: four years his numbers are actually better than any wide receiver.

567
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Speaker 1: And I think when you watched Brown last year, in

568
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: the attention that he got to me, he just looked

569
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: like peak Antonio Brown. So I think you're getting your

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: You better get another year lost twenty three yards per

571
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: game on his two thousand seven I hear it, I

572
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: hear you. But he scored a lot of touchdowns. He

573
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: looked great, and he's getting a lot of attention. He

574
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: still looked like a really really great player to two

575
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: less quick points for me. One, what better way to

576
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: know for sure whether or not Derek Carr is your

577
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: guy then bringing in arguably the best receiver in the league.

578
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: And I think I think that's what we'll see. Could

579
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: be surprised. Maybe Kyler Murray ends up being their quarterback

580
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: in Week one or somebody else, but I think maybe

581
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Gruden now sees if if put them with a true

582
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: number one, uh what happens. Also, you're winners and losers.

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Speaker 1: One one that I did not see in the winner category,

584
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: which I think should have been there the rest of

585
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: the a f C North, including Marks Cleveland Brown's because

586
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Steelers done again and in there, um,

587
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Steelers are done. But now we

588
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: officially know for sure that that kind of era, that

589
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: book is closed with the Killer Bees, and I don't

590
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: think the Steelers will be um a favorite in that

591
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: division at this point. Perhaps they win twelve games next year,

592
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it's a great news, great day

593
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: for the rest of the ANFC. One question, because we

594
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: heard up until the end of the Eagles, the Titans

595
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: and Jets were put into this mix. At one point

596
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: we're all in on Antonio Brown and making up some

597
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: sort of a push for him. Were they all outbid

598
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: by this hyper low offer or to they jump out

599
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: because for everybody else wanted to pay him what the

600
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Raiders were gonna pick. I think that's it. I think

601
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: the rest I'm not. I don't like. The One thing

602
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: is this is this is still a great player to me?

603
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Are you are you just you're saying they're gonna get No,

604
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have his numbers will be down. I'm saying

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00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: I find the Raiders to be a direction list team organization,

606
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: and you look at a team like the Patriots, who

607
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: are you know, as Evan silv Alway says, running laps

608
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: around the rest of the league. They watch the Giants

609
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: go out and make Nates Solder the highest paid lift

610
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: tackle in the league, get a third round pick compensation

611
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: wise for that trade, a third for Trent Brown and

612
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: fifth round pick move him from right from right tackle

613
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: to left tackle to fill that hole. Now they're going

614
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: to collect the third round pick. The Raiders make him

615
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: the highest paid offensive tackle in the league annually. Um,

616
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: they drafted Colton not to play left tackle. Now they're

617
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: putting him at right tackle to take the guy who

618
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: was a career right tackle only to be used as

619
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: a left Like, where's the direction that the move is?

620
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: To get these guys before their big money? What the

621
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Patriots do, what the Raiders do is throw away more

622
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: money than anybody else in the league. What at two

623
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: different players? Bad teams get stuck doing that. I hear you,

624
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: but I just I'm not ready to call this like

625
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's decline face yet, although I think his numbers

626
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: will be vastly down potentially everything. But basically, Jerry Rice

627
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: in History says that I do think we should we

628
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: should say that the Steelers, however they handled it, they lost.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean they've failed. I mean Kevin Colb, this whole

630
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: thing of trying to set a deadline, and there's all

631
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: these teams, these teams interested. I don't know what the

632
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: option was because then and hammer the Steelers for dealing

633
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: with a crazy person. It's just an right because what

634
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: three players could do this next off season. Yeah, it's

635
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: it's unique the Antonio Brown situation because there's not many

636
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Browns. But you're right, Antonio Brown put them in

637
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: such a tough spot, and I think you're right. West.

638
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: We may never really get the answer, but I think

639
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders who apparently offered that third and fifth early

640
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: in the process and they just sat on it, and

641
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: they were willing to pay Antonio Brown, but they weren't

642
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Speaker 1: willing to give up much draft cab. And I think

643
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: there were other teams like the Bills, maybe the Titans,

644
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Speaker 1: who knows that we're willing to give up more draft picks,

645
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: but weren't into the money. And when you watched when

646
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Speaker 1: I watched Drew Rosenhouse's interview on on NFL Network with

647
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Andrews Ciciliana, you definitely got the sense that, like the

648
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Raiders were fine changing the money. And I think ultimately

649
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: it's like Antonio Brown made that happen and the Steelers

650
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: are losers. And it is Colbert's fault on some level

651
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: because they are eating twenty one million in dead cat money,

652
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: largely because he should have foreseen his wide receiver quitting

653
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: on his team ahead of time. That's fault because he

654
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: didn't manage the cap well throughout the last three or

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Speaker 1: four years. And every year they have to keep doing

656
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: these things where they move their base salary into a

657
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: guaranteed bonus for Roethlisberger for a lot of the UH

658
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: offensive alignment. And they did that for Antonio Brown last year.

659
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: You can not foreseeing Antonio Brown doing this. But I

660
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: can't blame him for right now I'm saying. I'm saying

661
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: most teams are not in such cap problem that they

662
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: had to guarantee Anthony Round all this money last year.

663
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Speaker 1: That's a big reason why is because they had to

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Speaker 1: change all of his money around. You're right, they didn't

665
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Speaker 1: see it coming right now. Like the other option would

666
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: be to hold him hostage even if he's not gonna play,

667
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: and not trade him at all and just keep it.

668
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: That was always your career. That was found out to

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Speaker 1: be funny. He kept saying, what, we'll keep him if

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Speaker 1: we can, and they obviously weren't going to keep no

671
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: matter what. West Before we move on, you know what

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: would have helped you have a colvert? What would have

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00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: helped him GMT. Hey, we have a team interested willing

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Speaker 1: to give up a third and a fifth and give

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar guaranteed contract. At me, oh, I

676
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: think that. I think they essentially had that already. The

677
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: g m AP removes any question whether or not everyone

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00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: is plugged in. That's fair. Moving on, Los Angeles Rams.

679
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: More breaking news. More breaking news from Adam Schefter. Patriots

680
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: DN Tree Flowers intends to sign with the Detroit Lions

681
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: in a five year deal. W Kett just jumping right

682
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: in there. Look at Ken Brown right now. Ken, typically

683
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: you will slack me. I did, but you didn't respond.

684
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: The show doesn't go up till hours later. But yeah, alright, Ken,

685
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: thank you very much for that. I love it. Trey

686
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Flowers does leave doing New England Patriots. Glad we didn't

687
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: take the show any earlier. U to go to the Lions.

688
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Do we have any contract details? There can't at this point.

689
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: To five year deal should be according a rap sheet,

690
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: more than sixteen or seventeen. Okay, So the Lions, who

691
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: really do need to make a splash, make a big

692
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Speaker 1: one in grabbing Greg the best all around player on

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Speaker 1: the Patriots defense. Yeah, once they didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: worth franchise tagging Trey Flowers. I assumed that he was

695
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: going to get a deal elsewhere, whether it was in

696
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: the a f C East or now, it makes sense,

697
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, Patriots Midwest. In terms of Detroit, uh, the

698
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Lions have already brought in Danny, signed Danny Avendola. They've

699
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: already said going to the playoffs. Justin Coleman. They've also

700
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: signed Justin Coleman, who's really a Seahawks product because the

701
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: Patriots basically gave him away to the Seahawks. But Matt

702
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Matricia knows him well after his two years of quiet

703
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: play in New England and then he really played well

704
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: in Seattle. But this is the biggest move and it

705
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: gets I think it's a good signing. I know, West,

706
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe you don't think he's worth that sort of money,

707
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: but to me, he's like a top I would have

708
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: to put the list in front of me, but to me,

709
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: he's a top ten to twelve, you know, defen defensive

710
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: lineman or fifth, top fifteen defensive lineman. And I don't

711
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: put he's not exactly interior, he's not exactly an edge rusher,

712
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: but he's perfect for this type of defense that wants

713
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: to be able to change what they do week to week. Okay,

714
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: you want a two man front one week. You want

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00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: a three, you wanta four, you wanta five? Tree Flowers

716
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: can do it all. He can set the edge, he's smart,

717
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: and he really does disrupt plays. And he's in the

718
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: middle of his prime. And that's just how much people

719
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: cost in free agency. If Olivia Vernon was worth seventeen

720
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: a year three years ago, I think he's a better

721
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: player than Olivia Vernon, Which is why you see a

722
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: lot of bad teams making moves right now, because that's

723
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: when players get extremely overpaid. And how many times have

724
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: we seen a coach go to a new spot, then

725
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: way overpaid to bring in his guys, get rid of

726
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: the last guys, guys, and then he's fired within three years.

727
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: And you know Trey Flowers. Tray Flowers is released right

728
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: when Matt Patricia gets fired from the Lions. I mean

729
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: to me, it's a lot like Malik Jackson. I nobody

730
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: compared him to Michael Bennett, but it reminds me a

731
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: lot of Milick Jackson going to the Jaguars and he

732
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: had clay As Campbell, Yanni cant Way, and Marcel Darius

733
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: there to help him out. Who's helping Drey Flowers? You

734
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: got snacks there DeShawn Hands, But I think that Jackson

735
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: signing was something that Jaguars would do over again. And

736
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: and Flowers plays about three four hundred more snaps and

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: relish it's just gonna be on the field. I went

738
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: back and listened to a Porsche and of our I

739
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: guess you would call it the opening free agency bonanza,

740
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, some up scenario from a couple of years ago.

741
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: And like eight percent of the people that we talked

742
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: about are either on their way out or on there

743
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: are already gone from the team. So it's there is

744
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: a like a lingering buzz kill to all this, like

745
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, manufactured excitement over all these signings. I totally agree,

746
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: and yet I think Flowers is really safe. I just

747
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: don't like what's like the worst case scenario to me

748
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: with him is he's solid and he gives you ten

749
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: to twelve million dollars in value, and yes, you're you're

750
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: better off if you're the Patriots and you're drafting guys

751
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: like that. And they certainly had a price for him

752
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: and it wasn't this high, and that's unfortunate because I

753
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: loved watching him play, But like, he's not going to

754
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: turn into a bum. He's like he's a good player.

755
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: And the flip side to the coach going to from

756
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: A to B and bringing in his guys is Ma Patricia.

757
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: I like the idea of map Patricia knowing exactly who

758
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: Trade Flowers is, using the right scheme and putting something

759
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: ann quality into Detroit's defense. Then Ray Flowers going to

760
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: a group of coaches that have never worked with him

761
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: and have no idea if he'll work out five. Quinn

762
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: has been there since two thousand sixteen. So even though

763
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: it's only right, even though even though it's Patricia's, Quinn

764
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: is under some pressure to make some some magic. I

765
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: mean they paid his ziggy ansa seventeen million. I mean

766
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I'd settle for even vaguely exciting instead of magic. Let's

767
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: move on so much to get to the Rams. Eric

768
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Weddle there in business. The Rams agreed to terms on

769
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: a two year deal with Wettle that is worth up

770
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: to twelve and a half million. Wettell had, according to Wettle,

771
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: eleven offers, narrowed that list down to five chose the Rams.

772
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: So Wettell, the thirty four year old Veterans safety who

773
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: was cut by the Ravens, last week, UH lands of

774
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: the Rams team with that Super Bowl window wide open.

775
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Also staying with the Rams, Dante Fowler, who came over

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00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: in that mid season trade from the Jaguars, made an impact,

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: especially down the stretch. Well he sticks around, he is

778
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: off the open market and UH at one year and

779
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: fourteen million rap sheet reports, UH feels like a could

780
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: pretty good deal for the Rams, who don't have to

781
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: make a big commitment really to either player, and UH

782
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: have two pieces in place. Well, got what I've never

783
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: seen before the Palindrome contract. Every figure in the contract

784
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: reads the same forwards and backwards signing bonus the actual money.

785
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. I think the agent did

786
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: it just to be fun cute. It was cute. Fowler

787
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: especially surprised me because especially Ed Rusher and all that. UM.

788
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I feel like he could have gotten a better contract

789
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: than the open market for one year. Though I don't know.

790
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's a lot of bucks for one year.

791
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: I think that that's a Usually I am skeptical when

792
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: you give teams too much credit for attracting free agents

793
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: in terms of like how they sold themselves, or it's

794
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: an attractive place to play, or the coaching staff. But

795
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I I I would tend to give the RAMS staff

796
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit that I think they convinced

797
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler based on his experience with them. Look how

798
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: great that just worked out for you? Uh, for eight

799
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: or nine weeks. We're gonna pay you what you would

800
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: have made, if not more, on an average salary. But

801
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you look so great again for another

802
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: year that you can go be a free agent and

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: make even more money uh a year from now. Because

804
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I agree West, I think he would have done better

805
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: guarantees and a long term deal, but the long term

806
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: potential is maybe even better if he gets paid a

807
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: lot this year and then people aren't teams aren't worried

808
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: that it was just a fluke. I don't think he

809
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: was gonna make Trey Flowers money as a free agent

810
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: by any means that this office mean. I don't know

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00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: if his agent would would agree with that strategy. Necessarily

812
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: what happens if you tear your A C L in

813
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: early December? But he agreed to the deal. Well, the

814
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: one thing I like is the RAM. These feel like

815
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: more honest contracts to me. I can trust that that

816
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Weddle will be there for two seasons, and we know

817
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: foul will be there for one. Don't don't lace this

818
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: up with these you know, these phony four year deals

819
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and they're not there, right, deal is already.

820
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: There's no way he's getting to the end of that

821
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: six year deal. You see a lot of prove it

822
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: contracts that are for one year five million. You don't

823
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: see one year fourteen million proven exactly. What was the

824
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Nodominican Sioux contracts almost identical. So they took basically that

825
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Sue money and gave it to Fowler. Sue wasn't proven everything.

826
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: He was already He's a three time, four time pro

827
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: All Pro. He's not. He wasn't trying to prove anything.

828
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: You're You're right. I think it's it really is a

829
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: case of betting on himself. If you're Fowler, I think

830
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: it's a belief that he is. He must believe that

831
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna do even better, uh this season because Master

832
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: and Waite Phillips defense is a good place to write

833
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. He had, He had as good a

834
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: contract push I think, after a pretty stark cross career

835
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: as any player in recent memory. Don't um Yeah, we

836
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: should not discount how inviting and alluring it is to

837
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: be playing for the Rams right now. Yeah, that's what

838
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm and I think he probably had an unbelievable time

839
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: playing for them. He loves it here. The media is here,

840
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: the clubs are here. The I was gonna say the

841
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: fans that they had a lobotomy removed the Super Bowl

842
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: experience from his member. And it's a bit super Bowl contender.

843
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: So maybe he is wads chill. I mean, Wade's not

844
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like having you running gassers and colling at you.

845
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a club club Wade. Uh. Here's another

846
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: big contract quad Alexander who uh missed um most of

847
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: last season after suffering a touring a c L. With

848
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. The former fourth round pick he had become

849
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: an important player on that defense. Well, forget about the

850
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: a c L, you know, forget about everything, because the

851
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: forty Niners say, we want this man, and we're gonna

852
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: pay him big money. He signed. According to rap Sheet,

853
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: he's expected to sign excuse me, a four year, fifty

854
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: four million dollar deal with twenty seven million. That's again

855
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: the important number in guarantees, a big paiday West for

856
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: the tour, a four year old, thirteen and a half

857
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: million average tops Luke Keigley. Is this crazy money? This

858
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: is crazy money, and it's all because the forty Honors

859
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: drafted the wrong guy in Rubend Foster. Their linebacker corps

860
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: is depleted. They needed desperately to pay for linebackers. They

861
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: get a guy who's a little bit bit like alec Ogletree,

862
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: physical athletic, makes big plays, but also misses a lot

863
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: of tackles, is not always where he needs to be.

864
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: And I would question, outside of picking up the phone,

865
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick wanted to unload Jimmy Garoppolo on Kyle Shanahan,

866
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: what has John Lynch done well in San Franciso. I

867
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: agree with you, including the Malcolm Smith signing two years ago,

868
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: which is another linebacker. He is Jerrick McKinnon, He's going

869
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: to stay. Jerick McKinnon was bad luck, but it was

870
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: a curious signing. You know, Malcolm Smith is going to

871
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: stay on a pay cut. Kwan Axander's coming off a

872
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: tourn a c l like I always, I've been thinking

873
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: for a few years that there's a there's a mark

874
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: get there for value in terms of guys coming off

875
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: to ourn a c L s are big injuries that

876
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: they almost seem to get undervalued sometimes as free agents.

877
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: But maybe that's out the window because I mean, he's four,

878
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: he's supposedly three, four or five months from football activities.

879
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: He might not be, you know, hopefully he's ready for

880
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: the start of the season. But he was an up

881
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: and down player who made a lot of big plays.

882
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: But I think Bucks fans would tell you he was

883
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: so aggressive he gave up a lot of big place.

884
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: You almost have to look at that front office and

885
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: say they've gotten lucky in one sense, where the late

886
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: season trade two seasons ago for Jimmy G brought so

887
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: much optimism that you could you covered all the sins

888
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: that in the rest of the team building, and then

889
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the early season injury to Jimmy G last year gave

890
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: everyone this mulligan like, well, of course we aren't seeing

891
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the real Niners without Jarrey mckinnick. I, Well, now this

892
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: time around, you can't go six and ten without some heads.

893
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: This is one though. We're we're taping it pretty soon

894
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: after it was first reported. I would be curious to

895
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: see the guarantee guaranteed money there's something there now, Like

896
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: the insiders, they're they're getting smart. Dan. You know, we've

897
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: been getting on them for like saying guaranteed money this show.

898
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: You know, guaranteed money is not really guaranteed. Now he

899
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: he apparently has twenty seven million dollars in rolling guarantees

900
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: and what's rolling guarantee whatever that means. So maybe it's

901
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: like a one year contract for all we really Now

902
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: at this point, let's move on a trade trade trade tsunami.

903
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: It's coming. It's been here, it's been coming here. It

904
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: is trade trade to unami. Talked about the Raiders earlier.

905
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: They also made a made a deal this weekend sending

906
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: collecche Assemile, the left guard, two time Pro bowler who

907
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: suffered um a down seasoneen so Gruden ships him out

908
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: of town along with a sixth round pick to the Jets,

909
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: who get offensive line help, which they need. It's a

910
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old player who if he stays healthy,

911
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: if if if he's in good shape and all, that

912
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: represents a huge upgrade, uh for the Jets in the

913
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 1: middle of their line. And and like I talked about

914
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: this last week, as important as bringing in somebody like

915
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: Levian Bell is fixing that line in front of Donald

916
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: is equally important, and I think this is a good

917
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: step in that direction. Your thoughts, gentleman. It seems to

918
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: me that the Raiders there are reports from ESPN specifically

919
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: that they are cash poor after paying for Antonio Brown

920
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: and Trent Brown. So Trent Brown like deferred most of

921
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: his big money into the second year after they get

922
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: to Vegas in theory because there's no income tax there.

923
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: But maybe it's you know, so they're helping the Jets

924
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: build their offensive line because they can't afford Collecchi Assembly.

925
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure they also think that Assembly is a bit

926
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: in decline from where they signed him three years ago. Yeah,

927
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: he was one of those guys that Mark if I

928
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: think if you listen to the show three years ago,

929
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: we would have been talking about off the top. He

930
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: was a top five free agent the whole line, and

931
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: and he was on the potential cuts list um because

932
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Mayak especially and then after at the combine, Mayak kind

933
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: of set Assemily you thought was up and down a

934
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: year ago, which you know was maybe telegraphing it. But

935
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: for the Jets it seems like a very I mean

936
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: at worst, he's a competent starting guard, which is better

937
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: than I possible to get. I think these veteran pick

938
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: swap deals are like, you know, they're the new money ball,

939
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and um, Matt Paradis, who is the big center on

940
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: the market. There's a report out there that it's between

941
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Bills in terms of the fight

942
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: to get uh Paradis. So that would be a nice

943
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: upgrade to the middle of that line. So we'll see

944
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. Um. Another trade the Patriots

945
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: in business. They acquired Michael Bennett and round picked from

946
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles in exchange for a fifth round pick. Bennett

947
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: we had heard he was of His salary was a

948
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: little bit restricting for the Eagles they were gonna put

949
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: potentially release him. Instead, they move him in a deal

950
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: Bennett mark still even at age thirty three, hat makes

951
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: an impact on a defensive may the raider of the

952
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: Patriots a little bit better? It sounds like, I mean,

953
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I guess to West's point, you look at this Michael Bennett,

954
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: a guy who systematically knows he's going to play into

955
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: deep January every year he's in the NFL. He's proven

956
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: he can do it and You're not one of these

957
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: teams blowing the bank for someone coming off a big season.

958
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: He fits with the Patriots, and I'm sort of over

959
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: doubting anything they do at this point until they prove

960
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: that they can't operate a football team better than anyone

961
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: else in the league. Michael Bennet, you've you've already, you

962
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: already had the other Bennett brother there. Why not just

963
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: go full house? Martellis wants to come back now. Martellis

964
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: says he wants to play again. I have a feeling

965
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: the Patriots, I don't know if we need that, aren't

966
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna go along with that. I think they'd feel one

967
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Bennett is enough. I think people have been waiting for

968
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett to fall off, and it hasn't really happened.

969
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still a very solid starter, if not better,

970
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: at a cheap price. But the Eagles, to the credit,

971
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: I think they think a little more like some baseball

972
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: teams do. They They looked at Malick Jackson out there

973
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: and thought, well, we'd rather have Malick Jackson for a

974
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: few extra million dollars more than Michael Bennett, and we'll

975
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: just will just move on from Michael Bennett. Expected to

976
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: sign a three or thirty million dollar deal. According to

977
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: rap sheet Malik Jackson, how about less pointing out that

978
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: that Trey Flowers was kind of the Michael Bennett of

979
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: of the Patriots defense last week, and I think the

980
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: Patriots were listening and they were just like, let's get

981
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: the original for way cheaper. There have been post released

982
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: whispers in Seattle and Philadelphia that Michael Bennett cares about

983
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: rushing the passer to the extent that he no longer

984
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: plays great run defense. Now I don't think pf S

985
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: grades reflect that, but both of those teams apparently thought

986
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: that the Patriots do need an edge rusher. And he

987
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: does play sort of the same position as Trey Flowers

988
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: where he can go inside, er out, and we saw

989
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: down the stretch last year. He can definitely still get

990
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: to the quarter. He never stops playing. He plays, He

991
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: plays a lot of snaps, and they just they're gonna

992
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: need some talent on the defensive line. It is not

993
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: a good defensive line without without Trey Flowers there. It

994
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: also might be a guy you know this, he's been

995
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL a long time. I mean, you don't

996
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: want to cast dispersions, you know, he might just be

997
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: like after a year of Michael Bennett just been like, Okay,

998
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: that was that was good. But maybe that's get a

999
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: ring and get out. Let's let's move on your Patriots

1000
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: fandom again. You you've recently noted that you're not really

1001
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan anymore and you're just waiting for I mean,

1002
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: that's been that's been blown out of its Uh, it's

1003
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: actually not been focused on enough. But I raised the

1004
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: possibility and you would have loved that. Yeah, we talked

1005
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: about that that when Belichick retires, Am I really going

1006
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: to be a I have not decided. I'm just saying like,

1007
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: that's I think changing your two not gonna feel I know,

1008
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm talking through it on the podcast, but yeah,

1009
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: I am. Is it is it possible that I'm not

1010
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: going to be as mostly invested? I mean, there are

1011
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins as emotionally invested after Don Cholo left. Probably not.

1012
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, you gotta you gotta watch I

1013
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: mean a few assumptions being thrown. You know, you gotta

1014
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: watch cam Cameron running the show and be like, oh, yep,

1015
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm just as into it as Kenry how it feels

1016
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: he seems like a pretty die hard Dolphins fan all

1017
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: through the bad years. I have thoughts on that. By

1018
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: the way, do you want you want my theory on it?

1019
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Sarah, it's not cutting or anything, but it's

1020
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: my my opinion that you've enjoyed this amazing run with

1021
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the team that you grew up following, and

1022
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: you've had this, uh, this Brady Belichick ride. But also

1023
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: now listen, you're getting a little bit older, you're making

1024
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: waves in NFL media. Maybe you don't want to be

1025
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: attached to a team as a fan anymore. So this

1026
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: gives you in your mind, this could be my clean out.

1027
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: So no longer will I be a fan of a team.

1028
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I could be Greg Rosenthal NFL insider. I know I

1029
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: don't want to be an insider. I'm a fan of

1030
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: a lot of teams, and I think the Patriots will,

1031
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: no matter what, will always be one A And you

1032
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: guys seem to be confused when I'm like rooting for

1033
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: other teams. I I that was a Springsteenian. I don't

1034
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: think trope right there. But it's true. Though. Do you

1035
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's phony? Do you know? I just think it's

1036
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: interesting that the minute the Patriots like lose their Hall

1037
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: of Fame coach, you're out like a fan of things.

1038
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: I also, I've kind of given up on other sports.

1039
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: You're right, there is a point in getting older that

1040
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't like giving up, like my emotional well being

1041
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: or stability to anything like that. I mean, outside of

1042
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: my part. What do you mean? I mean try it.

1043
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: Being a Jets fan for twenty years, you've essentially just

1044
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: like this magic carpets floating around from season to season

1045
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: every autumn. You're sort of a thousand feet above everyone

1046
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: else trying to convince us I may still be a

1047
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Patriots fan. Please. That's why gambling was invented, because as

1048
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: you grow older, adults have very little reason for a

1049
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: steak in games than eighteen. And there's there's a little

1050
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of cognitive this. It's it's happened

1051
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: to all my other sports. I mean, I've kind of

1052
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: given up being a real I mean, I'm with you there,

1053
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: Red Sox and Celtics fan too, Like I helped put

1054
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: a gun to my head to watch college bast emotionally

1055
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: invested in the Yukon Huskies anymore. The Springsteenian trope a

1056
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: sportswriter trope that you might be um drifting towards in

1057
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: your forties is kind of road for teams root for

1058
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: good stories. I don't, but they all like hate football

1059
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: and like I love football more than than I ever have,

1060
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: and but part of I love it a little less

1061
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: one like the team you're rooting for is making you miserable.

1062
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: I think we've spent enough time on this topic. The

1063
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: Chiefs move on from justin Houston. This is a good story.

1064
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's a good one. I think

1065
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: you guys should think about it. Think how miserable you

1066
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: guys are on Sundays. Maybe you could get that love

1067
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: of the sport back. So now after after you're saying

1068
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: I should now jump out when things find I have

1069
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: with the Jets, they don't ruin my life. And unless

1070
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: it's like a rare thing like when Ryan Fitzpatch those

1071
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: three interceptions in week seventeen and Buffalo, but usually I

1072
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: have enough distance where they don't destroy my life. I

1073
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: enjoy rooting for the Jets. I mean, Keith, we like it,

1074
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: my brother Kevin. It's a family thing. It don't you

1075
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: don't have to. It doesn't have to ruin your life

1076
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: or overpower your entire existence. That's all. By the way, Greg,

1077
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: look into your right pocket. I put a little present

1078
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: into your pocket, So that was you. I was like

1079
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: so confused. There was a random slim Jim like in

1080
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: my zipped up and I was like, zipped it up,

1081
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: that's great. Well, but I totally assumed it was me

1082
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: because I'm someone that's you know, occasionally at the end

1083
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: of the day, I'll like empty my pockets. There'll be

1084
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: some strange things, but they'll be there'll be like some

1085
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: strange things that I have no recollection. Uh, you know.

1086
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Taking the Chiefs cut cut ties with Justin Houston. Not

1087
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: a huge surprise has happened on Sunday that it's a

1088
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: natural I mean it's an old Wisconsin it's a knockoff

1089
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: slim Jim. Yeah, that's not the real deal. Least not

1090
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: the real deal. Holy Field UH bred veach Um. You know.

1091
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: The Combine did not deny reports that a trade UH

1092
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: could be possible for the veteran linebacker. Apparently no UH

1093
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: suitors were found, so they decided to cut ties with

1094
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: Justin Houston West thirty years thirty years old, still can

1095
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback, but maybe not at the same

1096
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: level as a few years back. Nine sacks. Last year,

1097
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: UH had two sacks in the postseason. A guy I

1098
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: feel like should have a market, right. I think he's

1099
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna have a market, just not at fifteen million. Um,

1100
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: you can still get to the quarterback, like you said,

1101
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: and I think we've said on this podcast last year,

1102
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: the only two teammates to be in the top ten

1103
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: and pressure percentage or justin Houston and d Ford. He

1104
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: can still get it done. Um. I could see smart

1105
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: team going out and signing him. I think if he

1106
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: played anywhere but Kansas City, he'd be seen as one

1107
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers of the last half five years,

1108
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: removed from the twenty two sacks season, which a lot

1109
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: of people forget at nine and a half in two

1110
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen and nine last year in twelve games,

1111
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean nine and twelve games. But a ton of pressure,

1112
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: like a ton of pressure and watch and sets the edge.

1113
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Does it all really well? It's interesting that they're going

1114
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: to move on from their best to defensive alignment if

1115
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: they do trade d Ford. There's some talk that the

1116
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: Packers and the Niners were maybe interested in trading Ford.

1117
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: Ford and man, I think that that would be tried

1118
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: to send him there last week. I mean that would

1119
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: be Uh, that would be a fun one could have

1120
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: like Chris Jones as a one man defensive one. He

1121
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: made it into the top ten of our Top one

1122
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: o one free agents were just continuing to be updated.

1123
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I got the set Let's a Living Breathing document. West

1124
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: was gone this week and he was in St. Louis,

1125
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: um at the baby shower. How was the baby shower?

1126
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: It was? It was a lot of fun. Baby. I'm

1127
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: not a shower person. It's a wedding shower. What are

1128
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: you doing there? Baby shower? The man? Is that a

1129
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: baby shower? Explaining this on our last podcast. My family

1130
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: is also throwing a wedding shower in Cincinnati next month,

1131
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not even allowed to go to that one

1132
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: because I'm a guy. I'm making up an event, like

1133
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: a party party for the wedding. Yeah, with the I'm

1134
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: making up a work event. Was in that situation. Not

1135
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: you're a good man, so you went, but I'm making up. Actually,

1136
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: we have this big podcast meeting I can't I can't miss,

1137
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: so I have to I can't be at the wedding shower.

1138
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: Could not St. Louis, I can't make the new it's

1139
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: a new owners meeting to discuss the to collect the bargain.

1140
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: You could say anything and that's perfect and you'd be like, ah,

1141
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: damn it. All right, well, I'll let you know how

1142
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: it is. I'll send photos and you're like, please do

1143
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: It ended up being a good time. Like it's definitely

1144
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: not my scene, but her friends are very cool. So

1145
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: I only brought that up, by the way, to say,

1146
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: I get the sense to you. You think justin Houston

1147
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I overrated him a little bit, put him on this

1148
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: top ten. I am a big Justin Houston. Okay, good, good,

1149
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: good good number nine, same page side. That's good. Uh.

1150
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: Denzel Perriman staying staying in l A. The Chargers agreed

1151
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: to turns to the linebacker around the two year, twelve

1152
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: million dollar extension. Rap sheet reported on Friday, um second

1153
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: round pick in the two thousand and fifteen draft. Nice

1154
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: moved by your bolts, Greg, Yeah, I like it. I

1155
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: mean West West always points out and he's right. How

1156
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: they're just a they're a bad run defense in general,

1157
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: and they're much better when Denzel Perriman is in the lineup.

1158
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: They also got rid of Jalil Die. The Chargers are

1159
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: not that far away from I mean they shouldn't. They

1160
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: were a thirteen win team that does not get a

1161
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: lot of respect. I feel like I want to see

1162
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: them make some moves to get excited about this. It's

1163
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: got to stay healthier though. Yeah, it's a ton of games.

1164
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: He's in old school. He's a throwback player, like a

1165
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: thumper of a linebacker, which sort of reminds me of

1166
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: Brandon Spikes when he played for the Patriots. Your only

1167
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: goal is to stop the run. And I might as

1168
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: well just tee you up on this one as well, Greg,

1169
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: because I know where it's going. Sean Lee will stay

1170
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys he gets a haircut, Uh so he

1171
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: will make haircut. Where is the conduction and salary? I

1172
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: think this is a West bit if no, no, no, no, no, Well,

1173
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: well he's a Garrett guy. I mean, you can't. They can't.

1174
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: They can't quit their guys, can't can't get rid of

1175
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: Garrett guy. I mean I think a Clay put it well,

1176
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: and you know on Twitter something to the effect. You know,

1177
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Jason Witt and Sean Lee making eight million dollars or

1178
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Combined, uh this year night, but hundreds

1179
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: of million dollars in leadership value. I mean it's these guys.

1180
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: They're the biggest problem with this move is that the

1181
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys typically play two linebackers on most of their downs,

1182
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh are just simply way

1183
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: better than Shawn Lee right now. Depth though not if not,

1184
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: if the depth doesn't play special teams. It's expensive depth,

1185
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, because it's a sentimental. But there can't be

1186
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: any Jerry Jones like, oh, we're gonna make sure Shaan

1187
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Lee has got a big part of this team. Is

1188
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: just enough with oh, I think we're gonna say stuff

1189
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: that's annoying to men Lee and team at robo back

1190
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 1: check back in the building, turn the page, Cowboys. Dez

1191
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: was onto something gets back Uh, Danny playoff Amudlo We

1192
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: mentioned that didn't when he signed. He signed appreciated by

1193
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: the way. Dak Prescott braving the cold in southern California

1194
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: in the desert to watch Serena Williams Friday Night maybe

1195
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: the match of the year, Serena versus story as a Ranka.

1196
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: He was out there at first season. I wasn't, but

1197
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: I was watching on TV. At first, he was trying

1198
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: to look all tough, like wearing a T shirt. I

1199
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, it's gotta it's gotta be colder.

1200
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: And he had like a little blanket over his things.

1201
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: Later on he's got a hoodie and a blanket over

1202
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: over his whole thing. Don't try to be too manly.

1203
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: You have like an FDR blanket. You put a blanket

1204
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: like over his head. And later yes, wow, that's I

1205
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: don't want my quarterback wearing an FDR blanket. I feel

1206
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: like it shows weakness. That's what he started at first.

1207
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Thing I was trying to be cool. I don't. I mean,

1208
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: I try to keep it real here. I like that

1209
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: where you're going with the point. What a match though,

1210
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: I want I want Sam Donald sitting there in a

1211
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: pair of shorts cut thigh high and uh, a nice

1212
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: sleeveless T shirt and just taking the old tennis people

1213
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: want to pretend it's not cold in southern California. It's

1214
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: fifty three degrees and windy. That's cold. Well, I mean,

1215
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: come on, Sam Donald and like a nice usc flavored

1216
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: romper with some little mittens. Now you're speaking my life.

1217
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: Back to Massachusetts, or New York for a winter and

1218
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: see if you think fifty three and windy is cool,

1219
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. Uh yeah, Danny Amdola reunites with

1220
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Patricia as well, So Patriots Midwest? Is that? I mean?

1221
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: I would rather I would not try to have Sean

1222
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: Lee for three and a half million then Danny A.

1223
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: Mendola for four and a half at this stage in

1224
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: his career. I'm a little why do non playoff teams

1225
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: keep signing Danny Amendola who's usually injured and ineffective during

1226
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: the regular season and only turns into a great player

1227
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: and teams logic unless you want to spin him to

1228
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: a playoff team near the deadline. Nobody wins here. I

1229
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: think it does point out like how difficult it's going

1230
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know. I don't know why I

1231
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: say this. Patriots win no matter what, But like as

1232
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: more and more of their guys go to other places

1233
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins and lines, seem like they're going to

1234
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: compete for every Patriots free agent out there. I mean it.

1235
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: You don't want to pay for depth he's thirty four,

1236
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Like spending a lot of money for backups. He's literally

1237
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: never had a season over six hundred sixty yards in

1238
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: his entire career under ten yards for catching this. I

1239
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: think there is a thing where we know this guy

1240
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: is from the whole idea of calling anything anywhere Patriots

1241
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: Midwest or Patriots West or South, you better be mimicking

1242
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: even even a bread crumb of the cess of the

1243
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: team we're calling you located somewhere else in Michigan. The Midwest. Yes,

1244
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they were a little We've had this conversation.

1245
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: I think it's north cute with what what midwest is.

1246
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: Ohio is right under Michigan, and growing up in Ohio,

1247
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: we were only ever refer is the Midwest. I know. Wait,

1248
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: grab Brown just got my ear and said Pittsburgh's the

1249
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: Midwest too. I consider Pittsburgh way more Midwest. There's a

1250
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: lot of conversation, especially like, yeah, is Pittsburgh, it's certainly west,

1251
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: the young count eat. It just seems like it's becoming

1252
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: a catch all. Well, well, so there's a country flyover country.

1253
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: It extends extends far west of Michigan and far and

1254
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: east of Michigan. The Midwest sort of begins with Ohio

1255
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,479
Speaker 1: and Michigan. I mean, I know Pittsburgh's on the west

1256
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: side of the state, right, but the east side of

1257
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: the state is damn near at the Atlantic Ocean. But

1258
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: here's a long state. Ptsburgh is not included in this map,

1259
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: by the way, it's way more. It's Detroit, Cincinnati, Midwest.

1260
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: My friends came back from college and like NASCAR suddenly,

1261
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: so that's you know, yeah, but I never got just

1262
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: because we draw lines to make states doesn't mean that

1263
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: everybody in those lines acts like the rest of the Yes,

1264
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: it does, all right. Now Mark has a map up here,

1265
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: and this is now okay, name these states by well,

1266
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: this is not good audio, not at all. So the

1267
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: So Pennsylvania, according to this map is not the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: thank god. Uh but Ohio is okay, that's fine. Well

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Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh much more DNA with Ohio Philadelphia. Yes,

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Speaker 1: for sure, I'm glad we figured that out. Finally, West

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Speaker 1: is pro cut Pennsylvania down the middle. I think that

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Speaker 1: we paid too much attention to borders. Ouch big statement there.

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Speaker 1: The Lions agreed the terms. Did we mention this justin Coleman,

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Speaker 1: We did. We did good. Highest paid back in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This is the year that nickel players start getting paid

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Speaker 1: slot receivers and slot corners are it and paid like

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Speaker 1: wide receiver twos and cornerback twos? Is this the year

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Speaker 1: that nickel Back the band gets the respect that they've

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Speaker 1: crazed their entire careers. I'm gonna go with no, Ken Brown.

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Speaker 1: The greatest um rock artist of all time is rock

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Speaker 1: artist Mick Jagger. Okay, okay, that's the same answer. I

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Speaker 1: mean the Rolling Stones as the band. But yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you Jagger you unless you're a solo stuff. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you said artists, so I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to say band, so I went with the best. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would maybe go as someone that like played music

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Speaker 1: as at least as part of his arsenal Mick Jagger

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Speaker 1: from Kent, England. There we go. Don't you dare say?

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Speaker 1: Ken Brown is not bringing the heat to be around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Did we say Jason Peters is back

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles on a one year deal? We did

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Speaker 1: not did not, So that's big future Hall of Famer

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01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: hanging around. That's big useful. They figured it out, not

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Speaker 1: Jason Peters anymore, but you can still think there was

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: some doubt about that one, and they figured it out.

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Speaker 1: He's way better than right, I mean he it's funny

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Speaker 1: to think about because like, how much better is he

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01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: than Trent Brown? Right now? He's so much better than

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown and he's so much less expensive. Greg, I

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Speaker 1: will I honestly, you're gonna be surprised by this, but

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Speaker 1: I will support you if you attempt to distance yourself

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Speaker 1: from the throne of sleeves. It's just more of an

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01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: intellectual But you just gotta promise me that I'll never

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01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: let's say, twenty years down the line, maybe we're all

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: different parts of the country and we're all together. Who

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Speaker 1: knows that. I'm not listening to an interviewer a podcast

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Speaker 1: with you as the guest, and you and someone asked you, well,

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01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: what what do you root for? Who do you root for? A? Greg?

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01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: I know you're from New England. I root for good stories.

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Speaker 1: Just promise me you'll never say that, well, you would

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01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: never listen to that, to that podcast. But that's I mean,

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: that's fair. But I won't say that. And I and

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Speaker 1: this whole time, I've said, did did be one a?

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Speaker 1: It just be a little like different, It's just gonna

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Speaker 1: be different. It's there one a. It's like I was

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Speaker 1: there at the at the Old World Series last year,

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: rooting on the Red sex in I living and dying

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01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: emotionally like I used to know. Because you're not putting

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Speaker 1: in the sweat equity of watching them every time, that

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're rooting against him. You've got your family,

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01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: you got stressed up. In a lot of nice words,

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: I just something about it feels wrong to me. But

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Speaker 1: I'll also do the work to try to figure out

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Speaker 1: what on earth you're doing. I am worried. You know,

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01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: you never want to, like, if you have something that

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01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: you do, you don't want to just do it. But

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Speaker 1: worse at any point, and the Patriots whatever they're you know,

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 1: being a fan of them, it's gonna be you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it, but worse retroactively it would well, I don't listen.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time retroactively it might affect not that

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: it matters to you, just like um you're saying I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't listen to your podcast. It doesn't matter to you.

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Speaker 1: What do I think of you as a fan. But

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Speaker 1: I would think somebody that quit on the team as

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: soon as they weren't good anymore. It's like a Bulls

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01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: fan getting out on Chicago after Jordan retired, I would think, oh,

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: you were never a real fan to start with. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair in Greg's defense. So I've considered

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Speaker 1: myself a San Antuto Spurs fan from the moment they

1340
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: drafted Tim Duncan, and as much as I want to

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01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: love to be there still, now the Duncan and Kawhi

1342
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: Leonard are gone, it's just like, Okay, what what am

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Speaker 1: I really root? Well? You to the list. Of course

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Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for him, and especially if we're still

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: doing this podcast. When Belichick leaves, you know I'll be

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Speaker 1: you know, you will outlive this podcast. I'll be rooting

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01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: for him. But in your heart, is it gonna mean

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01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: as much to you? Now? That's I'm just being honest.

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01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: Probably not. Am I still a Knicks fan? If I

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: haven't watched the Knicks game in ten years, I don't

1351
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: think anybody's doing there. It's awesome. More like, what do

1352
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: you want out of out of being a sports fan?

1353
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: It's like, if you've gotten everything you want, if you've

1354
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: gotten the best that there could ever be. It's like

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: again and asking it's a nice pr job, But I

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: think more where some of us are getting to is

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Speaker 1: your What from another angle is as soon as it

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01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: becomes a struggle, I'm out. You want the ease and

1359
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: the joy. I know that's not what you're saying, because

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about it as an intellectual, curious exercise. But

1361
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Speaker 1: but on the surface level, from another angle, it's like,

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01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: when this isn't like pleasurable to me, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: ride with this entity, whether I'm a team or something else.

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Speaker 1: With the tough times too, this is it better not

1365
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: bleed over into the wheel way. You do other things.

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Speaker 1: That's all. This is exactly what I was talking about

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Speaker 1: the other day. When there's an inverse relationship between toughness

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Speaker 1: and quality of life. You don't want to endure the

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Speaker 1: bad times and what that doesn't mean That means you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be tough. I'm more open minded on this,

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Speaker 1: but they're making great points. You have to say the

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Speaker 1: kids and cousins, sir, sometimes you have to endure the

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Speaker 1: bad times. I think it's more just getting old and

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Speaker 1: like wondering. You know, when you go down to those

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Speaker 1: super the Super Bowls have changed it a little bit

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Speaker 1: for me being there in person, like going down to

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Speaker 1: the locker room like when they've won and lost or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, here are all these guys.

1379
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Speaker 1: But it's like there's not really any difference between the

1380
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Speaker 1: Patriots guys and the Rams guys are the Eagles guys,

1381
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: and it's like they're all just these like millionaire athletes

1382
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: that wear this uniform for a short time and they're

1383
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: just they don't really have it. And then you're just like, Okay,

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: well it's a little different us. I know what you're

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: talking about, the toughness of the battle. The Yankees had

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Speaker 1: like three seasons in a row earlier this decade, and

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Speaker 1: if he's stuck with him through that, But were you

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: as into them those seasons? I was. That's why. And

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: again I'm not touching, but I love the Yankees as much,

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Speaker 1: probably more now than I did ten years ago, just

1391
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: because they were released from anything NFL really related. Um,

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: that's part of it too, as we do this for

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Speaker 1: our jobs. Absolutely agree with that. All right, good talk,

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Speaker 1: Big week coming up, So we're gonna have a show,

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Speaker 1: um an NFL dot com Free Agency. It's the name

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Speaker 1: of the program, Free Agency Live Frenzy. No, I think

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Speaker 1: they dropped friends. We're not included with that frenzy. For

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Speaker 1: the most part, Free Agency Live is okay. So we're

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Speaker 1: doing a show today, is that correct? It will already

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Speaker 1: have air, but it will be on NFL dot com afterwards. Yes,

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01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: so we we're doing to NFL dot com video shows

1402
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: and you could get the links from our Twitter pages

1403
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: or fully the around the NFL Twitter handle. But this

1404
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: podcast if you're just if you're all about purity, I

1405
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: just listened to the pot and we don't judge you.

1406
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: You gotta show um Tuesday, Wednesday, when uh the official

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Speaker 1: league year begins, the new league gear begins, and then

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Speaker 1: uh Thursday, we should have a show as well. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of content coming your way in addition to

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Speaker 1: our Wednesday UM Twitter show. We are productive. That's it.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansons signing off four Quiet Storm the

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Speaker 1: mail man. The old boss can't around coming in with

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Speaker 1: a breaking news. So first for everything we loved, see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow, Kenny Tail Tuesday