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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 2: Kim is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Elena.

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Speaker 2: They went on a date and now he's hearing nothing.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to try to get her on the

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Speaker 2: phone in a minute and see why she's ghosting him

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Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But before that, Cam,

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Speaker 2: how long has it ben since you heard from Elena?

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Speaker 3: It's in about four days.

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Speaker 2: How did you meet Elena?

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Speaker 4: Well, so we we actually met at the grocery store

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Speaker 4: check outline.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, Homer, Yeah, how'd that work?

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Speaker 3: No, like Hallmark movie? That's perfect. That's well, that's what

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Speaker 3: I was saying. So I saw her.

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Speaker 4: I thought she was extremely pretty that high, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, I ended up following her out to her car.

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Speaker 4: We were tidying this a bit and I got her

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Speaker 4: number and she was like totally into it. It was

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Speaker 4: really He's like so cute.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: We were like flirting and talking to each other and

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Speaker 4: exchange numbers. So I thought it was going really well,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't expect that at all. So I was thinking,

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Speaker 4: you know, for our first date. I was like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: this would be funny and kind of cute, Like let's

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Speaker 4: meet at the grocery store, parking a lot and like

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Speaker 4: have like an outdoor picnic in the back of my truck,

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Speaker 4: you know, And I brought like pillows and blankets and

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Speaker 4: I had like pizzas and wine and sippy cuffs.

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Speaker 5: Who are you you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that'll been really cute.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that whole Stars Born kind of vibe, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I just sort of felt like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: the only thing I could say it is like felt

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Speaker 4: like really meant to be. And so I know it's

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Speaker 4: only been four days, but you know, it went really well,

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Speaker 4: and we were talking a lot afterwards and texting, you

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Speaker 4: know that, like texting a lot between each other, and

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it just communications stops.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, what's what happened?

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Speaker 4: It seems bigger to me because it was going so good,

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Speaker 4: you know, so I really.

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Speaker 2: Would like to find out after your date and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, she hit me up and said good night.

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Speaker 3: I SA good night.

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Speaker 4: We were like that entire next day, like all day

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Speaker 4: we were just texting back and forth. It was just

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Speaker 4: it was just wonderful, and I was going, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: this is like this is like romantic dream come true,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like what was going on here?

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Speaker 3: And then it just stopped. So I'm just a little worried.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: I'm just in the dark bit and I'm like, why

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Speaker 4: would she respond to any of my texts. I'm hoping

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Speaker 4: that you can help me get in touch with her

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Speaker 4: and maybe she'll let me know what's going on. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it's just she got busy or something, or who know.

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Speaker 3: That's my hope. Anyway, Well, if you.

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Speaker 1: Think back on the date, was there any moment I

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Speaker 1: guess if she was talking to you the day after,

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Speaker 1: or maybe she was being polite talking to you the

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Speaker 1: day after and then knew she was going to go

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Speaker 1: to you, and then you know, if something happened on

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Speaker 1: of that would have been weird?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, honestly, I can't think of anything. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we weren't just talking to be polite. We were talking

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Speaker 4: about meeting again and how wonderful the night was, and

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Speaker 4: that's how a person you just going to be nice.

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Speaker 2: Anything you could think of there would be a reason

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Speaker 2: she'd be ghosting you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I have no idea. I just aware.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean what it is romantic as she thought in

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Speaker 4: the parking lot, but I mean, maybe you should look

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Speaker 4: back and I don't know, talk to a friend or something.

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Speaker 4: They thought it was corny. She seems seems smart and independent,

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Speaker 3: So I'm just boggled. I mean, maybe she had.

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Speaker 4: Another a relationship or something and it was more serious

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Speaker 4: than I mean. I would just like to know that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe all right, we'll play a song come Back,

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Speaker 2: and then call her and see if she'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, play a song, come back, get your first

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Speaker 2: day follow up next. If you're just joining us for

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Speaker 2: today's first Day follow up. Cam is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and he's getting ghosted by Elena. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: get her on the phone and see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Cam, why didn't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I met this beautiful girl named Alena the tech plot

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Speaker 4: line at the grocery store. We had a wonderful date

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Speaker 4: and uh, everything went well, and then she just hasn't,

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Speaker 4: you know, hit me back, and just been a few days,

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Speaker 4: and I'm hoping that something's still there.

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Speaker 2: And you were texting with her for a while after

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Speaker 2: your date too, It's not like you. She didn't ghost

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Speaker 2: you right after the date, correct, right, yayeah, we did.

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Speaker 4: We followed up and had tons of communication the day after,

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Speaker 4: and then it just stopped.

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Speaker 1: I could have been our friends rooster blocking and calling

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Speaker 1: it a corny date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, maybe one of her friends said it

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Speaker 6: was corny or something like that in the parking lot

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Speaker 6: or trying to follow a movie or something.

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Speaker 2: But all right, well we'll see. Are you ready for

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Speaker 2: us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ready. Let's rock and roll.

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Speaker 5: Here we go, Canna.

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Speaker 2: Hi is this Elena?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Elena? How are you? My name is Jewbell and a

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Speaker 2: host radio show. It's called the Jewbill Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Elena, the whole show's here. My name's Nina.

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Speaker 5: Oh Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Hi? Hi?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever listen to the show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's kind of it's a little Surrey.

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Speaker 6: You're calling me right now, I feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: What we'll just cross his arms, sat back, and isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy how we met this way, Elena.

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Speaker 2: We're calling you because you do a segment of the

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Speaker 2: show called The First Day follow Up, where if you

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Speaker 2: up ghosting them, they can email us to get you

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Speaker 2: ghosting them, and we got an email about you from

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Speaker 2: a dude named Cam.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, all right, that doesn't sound very good.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: I mean I really liked Kim and there's nothing we had.

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Speaker 5: We went on a date. I thought it was really nice.

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Speaker 5: I actually thought it was probably the most romantic date

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Speaker 5: whole night was just kind of very romantic, and I

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Speaker 5: honestly thought something was gonna happen with this. But the

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Speaker 5: following night I get a random DM from this girl

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Speaker 5: named Melissa who just basically was just like, don't speak

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Speaker 5: and I was like, well, I don't believe you like,

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, I don't know. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Would rather know. Please, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to cut anybody off, but I have

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Speaker 4: to correct this, please.

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Speaker 2: Lena, that's Cam. He's actually all the phone listening.

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Speaker 4: Wow h yeah, no, no, I'm so sorry I had

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Speaker 4: to do it this way. But but okay, I'm glad

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Speaker 4: you said that, because look, Melissa is my ex, like

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Speaker 4: we have been separated for over a year now, and

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Speaker 4: be reconciled because I haven't been dating because I talked

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Speaker 4: about you and our date to one of my coworkers

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Speaker 4: and that's probably how she found out because we still

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Speaker 4: hundred percent single, Like there is nothing there. I totally

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Speaker 4: thought it was the best day I've ever been on, too,

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Speaker 4: and I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Leave that because of this. I mean, it's total.

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Speaker 4: I swear you can ask my friends follow up with anything.

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Speaker 4: We are not together anymore she is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. Super spiteful.

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Speaker 5: He said, you haven't been with her.

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Speaker 4: For a year, No over a year, like it has

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Speaker 4: been done. We were together for a few years, like

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Speaker 4: been over and she just hasn't really moved on. I

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Speaker 4: mean I showed my friend my corker social I was like,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like believe me, Well, just tell her not to

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Speaker 2: I know, has she done this before.

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Speaker 3: She has done it one time before.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that's making her your ex feel like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a real reason to be holding on. And I

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Speaker 1: know people are crick to jump to conclusions and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: she's crazy, but like you are you sure you're not

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Speaker 3: Guys, No, no, no, we don't. We don't hang out outside.

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Speaker 4: We talk at work and so I mean it felt

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Speaker 4: her that way. Yeah, and so yeah, when she just

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Speaker 4: has she's seen We've mentioned it all, like you haven't

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Speaker 4: not seen me but yet, And I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: but nothing's set right now. And I said stuff like that,

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Speaker 4: but it didn't. I never gave her any indication that

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Speaker 5: You know, this sounds like I'm just jumping into a

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Speaker 5: whole big mess right now. I don't know. It really a.

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Speaker 3: Little messy, really, isn't. I mean, I can't fit any

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Speaker 3: other way. It's like I've moved on. If she hasn't,

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Speaker 3: it's like she's still not She's out.

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Speaker 5: Of my life though, Like yeah, but how many times

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Speaker 5: can you like reiterate say that I'm hey, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Does she have snapped tendencies? Because honestly, I would be

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Speaker 4: She's not crazy, like I mean, I swear. I mean,

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Speaker 4: sometimes if you have a path, it's not a path

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Speaker 4: that I want a part of me. I'm I am

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Speaker 4: moving on. I have moved on, and someone else doesn't

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Speaker 1: I do understand that. I do hope though, that there's

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Speaker 1: something that I don't know you can do to stop

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Speaker 1: her from thinking there's anything there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, well now the knowing this because, like I said,

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Speaker 4: the first time it happened a long time ago, it

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Speaker 4: was like eight months ago. I know it's fresh, and

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Speaker 4: I gave her the benefit of that. We talked, but

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Speaker 4: she's still like that, like I'm definitely gonna confront her

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Speaker 4: and let her know this is uncalled for it, like

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Speaker 4: you can't do this anymore that we're done. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: not to contact me, like she shouldn't be contacting you

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Speaker 4: shouldn't know you.

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Speaker 5: I'd block her, Elena, you must be really special. If

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Speaker 5: she's still caught.

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Speaker 2: I mean something she can't get over. Elena, would you

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Speaker 2: like to go out with Cam again on another date?

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Speaker 2: We'll pay for.

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Speaker 3: It, give it another chance. Yes, Yes, I have plenty

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Speaker 3: more movie ideas, I swear, I'm.

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Speaker 1: What's the movie that has the girl holding Mason her purse?

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Speaker 1: Whatever that movie is, And make sure you're that one.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, I've had my Like I.

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Speaker 1: Was dating somebody who's ex showed up at the foot

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Speaker 1: of the bed broke into his house when I was there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, just be saying.

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Speaker 3: God, don't you doing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying that, like, okay, good having second,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying God, No, I'm sorry, go on the date,

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Speaker 2: good luck.

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Speaker 3: Would you still want to go out with me again?

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, what a proposal. Yes, but somewhere just you know,

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Speaker 5: near the police station.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. Jule's first date follow up