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Speaker 3: It's The Dan Patrick Show with Doug Gottlieb. I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio. Having some technical difficulties Doug,
Speaker 3: not only myself but also with the equipment. But yeah,
Speaker 3: we're in for Dan Patrick here on this New Year's Day.
Speaker 4: Happy New Year, Happy New Year to you as well.
Speaker 4: Your son's not old enough yet. But I did hear
Speaker 4: you last hour say we took in the new year
Speaker 4: East Coast time, in Central time, and then I assume
Speaker 4: after writing down some notes gettingad for the show, you
Speaker 4: went to sleep.
Speaker 3: Then we here up till one. Hell yeah, my wife
Speaker 3: loves to celebrate. We're over at my father in law,
Speaker 3: so quite honest, he was a great way to celebrate
Speaker 3: because there was a point in twenty twenty four where
Speaker 3: we didn't know if he was going to make it
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty five, so it was really nice to celebrate.
Speaker 3: But she bought some cookies and my son got into
Speaker 3: the cookies at nine thirty and at twelve thirty was
Speaker 3: still wired, just running everywhere. So yeah, it's been quite
Speaker 3: quite a new year. But when he finally zonked out
Speaker 3: at like one am, we all were ready to call
Speaker 3: it tonight.
Speaker 4: That's that's funny because I remember when my son, when Hayes'
Speaker 4: was little, we were at our first time back in California.
Speaker 4: So this is two thousand, we must have been. This
Speaker 4: must have been twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen, so he
Speaker 4: was what was he two thousand and eight, so he
Speaker 4: was eight, And his whole thing was I just want
Speaker 4: to watch the ball drop, Like I've never watched the
Speaker 4: ball So we're like, all right, well you can watch
Speaker 4: it at nine, right nice East Coast time, like watch
Speaker 4: it at nine, and again, I don't know if the
Speaker 4: coverage had change over were on the wrong channel, but
Speaker 4: I remember watching like or watching like Ryan Seacrest or whatever,
Speaker 4: and on West Coast time, they don't show the ball
Speaker 4: drop on that show, and we're like, what the heck happened?
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, they didn't don't show it here, so
Speaker 4: we thought we had like the wrong channel. So we're like,
Speaker 4: all right, dude, you can stay up till ten, ten o'clock,
Speaker 4: half ten o'clock, you know, and and you know, he's
Speaker 4: starting to get kind of wound up or whatever. And
Speaker 4: ten o'clock and he's playing video games, like hey dude, hey,
Speaker 4: ball's about to drop. Then we're going to bed, and
Speaker 4: we flip it over to a different channel. Like it
Speaker 4: was like CNN, Like, yes, CNN, how could they they
Speaker 4: definitely have to have it dropping in Dallas? Yes, right, Nope, nothing,
Speaker 4: nothing skipped over. Nothing, They don't show it. They don't
Speaker 4: show it's the ultimate t's were like, come on, man
Speaker 4: ends up obviously having to stay up until midnight, and
Speaker 4: we're just all just miserable the next day, miserable because
Speaker 4: it wasn't that staying up till midnight is that big
Speaker 4: a deal. But when you were planning on shutting it
Speaker 4: down at about nine thirty ten, and then we would
Speaker 4: shut it down about like ten fifteen ten, Yeah, then
Speaker 4: it becomes a bigger dnight Like dang, you know, you
Speaker 4: got it and I'm not a sleeping guy, and neither
Speaker 4: is he So to all parents out there who they
Speaker 4: wanted to go to bed and their kid kept him up,
Speaker 4: we feel for you today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please don't judge my parenting skills. But he just
Speaker 3: he got into the cookies dug and it was over.
Speaker 3: He grabbed the cookie we a loted to have one,
Speaker 3: and then he ended up getting into them and we're
Speaker 3: like what And so, yes, twelve twelve thirty. We would
Speaker 3: love to have done the fake one just at eight thirty,
Speaker 3: just pretend to count down, But you are correct. ABC
Speaker 3: last night did not. For those on the West coast,
Speaker 3: we did not get to see the East Coast drop live.
Speaker 3: We actually had to watch it, and we watched it
Speaker 3: on CNN as it was live happening live. But I
Speaker 3: was watching ABC and they had a musical performer and
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, this person isn't performing twenty five
Speaker 3: minutes before the ball's gonna drop, like no offense to
Speaker 3: their career. But I just like, I don't know who
Speaker 3: this is. There's no way they're putting this person on
Speaker 3: within thirty minutes of us on the New Year. So
Speaker 3: I knew that it was an elongated New Year's Eve
Speaker 3: with Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 4: Well that of course, was what followed the college football
Speaker 4: playoff game, which had Boise State taking on Penn State,
Speaker 4: and I thought it was again you and I discussed
Speaker 4: this yesterday.
Speaker 5: I thought it was the perfect setup for Boise State.
Speaker 4: It's in the stadium where they had pulled off two
Speaker 4: gigantic upsets in bowl games previously. It's against a Big
Speaker 4: ten team, but one in which, like, let's just be honest,
Speaker 4: James Franklin has earned the reputation of really good against
Speaker 4: everybody except the ones that really really matter. Right, that's
Speaker 4: his reputation based all statistical data, right, And you know,
Speaker 4: they were rested whereas Penn State had to play. They
Speaker 4: have a star running back, and they have history on
Speaker 4: their side. I also thought it's interesting, right, like Dirt
Speaker 4: Cutter's their offensive coordinator. Dirt Cutter was probably the second
Speaker 4: coach to really get it going at Boise State, right, right,
Speaker 4: They used to win those the when they were one
Speaker 4: Double A national championships, but he was the first in
Speaker 4: the Division one level to really get it going. But
Speaker 4: now he's back there. That's obviously kind of quirky and interesting.
Speaker 4: But to have a week off, to be the noted underdog,
Speaker 4: to be in a place in which the program historically
Speaker 4: had pulled off upsets before perfect setup. The difference was
Speaker 4: there was no argument from the other side of the
Speaker 4: game didn't really matter, right, you can't can't, can't get
Speaker 4: that excuse up doesn't matter when now you're playing the
Speaker 4: first ever college twelve playoff. And I think we both
Speaker 4: agreed that. Again, if I'm speaking out of turn dan
Speaker 4: Field Free, that was a mismatch. It wasn't like a
Speaker 4: it wasn't like Sam Houston State against you know, Georgia
Speaker 4: first game in the of the year match, but it
Speaker 4: was one in which realistically eight nine times in ten
Speaker 4: Penn State wins that game because they're just a little
Speaker 4: bit better at most every spot outside of running back,
Speaker 4: and there wasn't really that much difference in running back either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't agree with you, but I look at
Speaker 3: it in a way where I think that if if
Speaker 3: if a group of five school or how many there
Speaker 3: are now, if one of those schools is gonna beat someone,
Speaker 3: I just feel they need a quarterback that's gonna throw
Speaker 3: it all over the yard and just rise above. Like
Speaker 3: even if Boise State was good, like there's they're a
Speaker 3: team that hangs their hat on the running game, and
Speaker 3: I just don't think that translates. And Penn State's not
Speaker 3: a great matchup for them. Maybe if they maybe if
Speaker 3: they played someone else, you know, it would have been
Speaker 3: a different story. But Notre Dame's got a heck of
Speaker 3: a defense. I don't know if I would have wanted to,
Speaker 3: you know, to go up against that defense as well.
Speaker 3: Penn State is pretty good, but yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 3: a tough ask. It is, I don't think overmatched, but
Speaker 3: a tough one to win. Yeah, eight out of nine, yeah,
Speaker 3: eight nine, maybe maybe ten out of ten. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I still think that should be in. But yeah, they
Speaker 3: weren't going to win last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there's no one you and I love watch
Speaker 4: appreciate college football. We would both say that one powerful,
Speaker 4: non power ford school should get in, you know, should
Speaker 4: definitely get it. That doesn't mean it can't be too
Speaker 4: on a given year, but should definitely get it. But
Speaker 4: in no way should they be a seed where they
Speaker 4: get a get a buy. Yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 4: And it's just such a massive over correction And it's
Speaker 4: just honestly, it's a loophole that somebody's like, wait, what
Speaker 4: how did we not figure this thing out? Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: well there was this thing we did the conference champions
Speaker 4: had to get to buy and we forgot that if
Speaker 4: you lost in your conference championship game, then you weren't
Speaker 4: like what are we doing?
Speaker 5: So that obviously be remedied.
Speaker 4: It'll it takes what there's one more year in this cycle,
Speaker 4: but that was a loophole that needs to be closed up.
Speaker 4: And if it looks like a clown show, because the
Speaker 4: the you know, the committee that put together these rules
Speaker 4: hadn't done before, you're right, they hadn't done it before.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it was a clown show
Speaker 4: or just one of those you know, of all the
Speaker 4: possible things that could have happened. And oh yeah, by
Speaker 4: the way, nobody expected the ACC to be this bad.
Speaker 4: No one ever thought, like, you've got a league with
Speaker 4: Florida State, with Miami, Clemson, in Virginia Tech. No one
Speaker 4: would ever think the ACC would be this bad. But
Speaker 4: here's the news flash for you. The ACC is abysmal.
Speaker 4: Why and again, I hate to be that guy, but
Speaker 4: I would say half the schools in that league are
Speaker 4: playing a different sport because they don't have nearly the
Speaker 4: money of a florida'sday. And I know Florida State was
Speaker 4: bad this year, Matt. You want to talk about difference
Speaker 4: in twenty three and twenty four, there's Florida State football
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 5: Holy cow.
Speaker 3: Well, Doug, I know one of your gripes too, is
Speaker 3: that Arizona State didn't get to play in the Fiesta Bowl.
Speaker 3: And during the college football season, it was announced that
Speaker 3: each of the Power four leagues were going to be
Speaker 3: assigned to a bowl game in the quarterfinals. So the
Speaker 3: Big ten champ was going to go to the Rose Bowl,
Speaker 3: the SCC champ was going to go to the Sugar Bowl,
Speaker 3: the Big twelve champ was likely to go to the
Speaker 3: Fiesta Bowl, and then the ACC champ was going to
Speaker 3: go to the Peach Bowl. But what ended up happening
Speaker 3: is because of Boise State's breakthrough. Because they were taking
Speaker 3: those top four, those top four buys and putting them
Speaker 3: in those games. It knocked the ACC completely out because
Speaker 3: they didn't have a first round by and then they
Speaker 3: moved Boise State to the Fiesta Bowl because they were
Speaker 3: seated higher, something we talked about yesterday. And then that's
Speaker 3: why Arizona State's ending up playing in the Peach Bowl today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just a complete mess. I'll even say this,
Speaker 3: I don't think we have a good sense of who
Speaker 3: Penn State is. And I know Penn State fans are like,
Speaker 3: who cares, We're in the semifinals and we're in the
Speaker 3: Orange Bowl. But they were the team that I felt
Speaker 3: was got the most benefit of the power schools. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I know SMU is in a power league, but now
Speaker 3: they got the Their conference championship game wasn't used against them.
Speaker 3: They didn't have any really great wins. They lost to
Speaker 3: Ohio State. They and now they got not only did
Speaker 3: they get the sixth seed, they got SMU at home
Speaker 3: and then they're in the bracket with Poise State and
Speaker 3: so now they're in the semi finals. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't even know. I really don't know. Georgia and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: I mean, Notre Dame Penn State would be amazing, But
Speaker 4: I don't think Georgia Penn State will be a particularly
Speaker 4: good game.
Speaker 5: That'd be my guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you have you have Texas, Ohio State,
Speaker 3: and Oregon all on one side of the bracket.
Speaker 4: Just as the crazy thing about it is the NCAA tournament, right,
Speaker 4: and when they come out with these matchups, and I
Speaker 4: believe them because I've seen them go through the process,
Speaker 4: I have is that it doesn't even though we have
Speaker 4: these quirkya matchups like, oh, the committee thinks they're being
Speaker 4: clever putting this team against that team, Like, it.
Speaker 5: Doesn't really work that way.
Speaker 4: There's too many moving pieces, too many moving parts, you know,
Speaker 4: b Yu can't play in a Sunday like. We got
Speaker 4: a lot of different things you got to do that
Speaker 4: go above and beyond, and sometimes matchups were in this one,
Speaker 4: there's only twelve teams.
Speaker 5: You knew how who most of them were.
Speaker 4: And again there was no we made you made up
Speaker 4: the rules as you went, like how they still screw
Speaker 4: it up, and they still screwed it up.
Speaker 5: It really screwed it up.
Speaker 3: The one thing they got right was Indiana Notre Dame
Speaker 3: was a fun game because of the state of Indiana.
Speaker 4: Sure, and putting Indiana if they're in, you got to
Speaker 4: put them on the road, yeah, you know, but they
Speaker 4: didn't really belong in them and they weren't, you know.
Speaker 4: And the other thing we've seen, and this may be
Speaker 4: really the ultimate talking point, is you know, now you're
Speaker 4: getting people like, why don't we just go to sixteen,
Speaker 4: like or maybe there's really just not even twelve teams
Speaker 4: that are that Yes.
Speaker 3: That's probably the best. The biggest takeaway from this, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like flour was actually pretty fine. It was actually kind
Speaker 5: of worked.
Speaker 4: You know, what they could have done was do the
Speaker 4: old bull system and then pick four teams and play
Speaker 4: a little tournament. That would have been super cool. Would
Speaker 4: have dragged on later on the year, but I think
Speaker 4: it would have been better. That would probably been a
Speaker 4: better idea. But we all wanted we got to have
Speaker 4: a playoff. We've got to have a playoff. Everybody has
Speaker 4: a playoff except the Bulls, isn't. We got to have
Speaker 4: a playoff, And this is what we've chosen, and it's
Speaker 4: it's just now, here's the Here's the issue that unfortunately
Speaker 4: the Mountain West and every other league is going to
Speaker 4: run into is the confirmation bias of what we just saw.
Speaker 4: It doesn't even matter, Like this is a Boise State
Speaker 4: team with a near flawless resume, didn't lose a game,
Speaker 4: have a superstar, a collegiate superstar running back, a historically
Speaker 4: significant program, Boise State again national champion at a lower
Speaker 4: level and they pulled off upsets. Boise State has earned
Speaker 4: everyone's respect over the last twenty five years for the
Speaker 4: product they've generally put out there, right, and they only
Speaker 4: lost one game this year to the number one team
Speaker 4: in the country, and it was by one point on
Speaker 4: that team's home field. And yet they were inadequate in
Speaker 4: comparison by comparison to the third best team in the
Speaker 4: Big Ten in their first College FOOTBA playof appearance. Again,
Speaker 4: it's not fair, but how the human brain works with
Speaker 4: ninety five percent of people is everyone's going to hold
Speaker 4: that against any other non power forward team from now
Speaker 4: until proven otherwise, and they will always get the lowest seed. Always, always,
Speaker 4: always no one. If you think no one believed in
Speaker 4: Boise last night, no one believes in any other team
Speaker 4: coming out of those because again, if you're going to win,
Speaker 4: you would think it's well coached, star player program that's
Speaker 4: won before, and they've shown that they could at least
Speaker 4: compete at the at the top level against Oregon earlier
Speaker 4: in the season.
Speaker 3: I'll say one other thing, Doug, Boise State this year, well,
Speaker 3: I think, unfortunately, because of what they did and how
Speaker 3: they played, will become a victim of Now we talk
Speaker 3: about strength of schedule and scheduling, I think that schools
Speaker 3: are going to want to schedule other power conference schools
Speaker 3: for non conference. There is not going to be a
Speaker 3: benefit for Oregon to continue to schedule Boise State great
Speaker 3: and so that's the tough part of this is we
Speaker 3: may get better games in September because of more cross
Speaker 3: conference stuff, but there is now absolutely no benefit for
Speaker 3: schools to do that because of the gap that we've
Speaker 3: told talked about, and it's really not fair to Boise
Speaker 3: and it's a shame and any of the other schools.
Speaker 3: If you NLV is trying to, you know, make that
Speaker 3: climb up as well. There's just no benefit for a
Speaker 3: power for school to play a non conference game against
Speaker 3: the Mountain West sort of school.
Speaker 5: That's a really, really, really really good point. He's Dan Byer.
Speaker 4: I'm dog Gottliebin for Dan Dannett's here and the Dan
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Speaker 4: football commissioner? Would would that change people's perception? Okay, would
Speaker 4: it change people's perception? I want to get into that.
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Speaker 5: Does college football need a commissioner? Who should it be?
Speaker 5: We'll discuss now next.
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Speaker 5: Welcome in. Jared Smith will join us in about six
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Speaker 4: you ready for today's college football playoff games, as well
Speaker 4: as maybe take a to sneak peak at a couple
Speaker 4: of things going on this weekend.
Speaker 5: Week seventeen. The NFL is hard. It's difficult, right, I mean.
Speaker 4: You have a couple of games, which guys obviously Lions
Speaker 4: and Vikings, Oh my, they'll they'll be playing for home
Speaker 4: field advantage. But outside of that, a lot of wait,
Speaker 4: who who's playing and why are they playing? We don't
Speaker 4: know about Take one Barkley playing this weekend for the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Urban Meyer was on the Herd yesterday and uh he
Speaker 4: offered up this as what he believes is the solution
Speaker 4: to so many of the issues surrounding college football.
Speaker 6: No interest at all, you know, I just none.
Speaker 3: None.
Speaker 6: When you're a commissioner of a conference that let me
Speaker 6: put it this way, so imagine the NFL and they say, okay, Roger,
Speaker 6: we're going to now put the USFL in with the NFL.
Speaker 6: You guys are all going to be together. And that's
Speaker 6: what college sport. College football right now. Not everybody's not
Speaker 6: the same, right, they're not operating in the same guidelines.
Speaker 6: It's it's and it'll never be that way. You take
Speaker 6: in Ohio State, you take the wolver Raine, you take Georgia,
Speaker 6: and then you you're mixing son. I'm not gonnause name
Speaker 6: because I want teams to get mad here, but they're
Speaker 6: they're not the same, that's right. So this person has
Speaker 6: to lower their level and this person has raised to
Speaker 6: get any any type of equilibrium, and that's not going
Speaker 6: to happen Colin.
Speaker 4: So the question is, can there be a college foot
Speaker 4: football commissioner or a college sports commissioner and can you
Speaker 4: actually do anything with that job?
Speaker 5: What do you think, Dan?
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of deep thoughts on it, honestly.
Speaker 3: I do think that on the surface, it's like, boy,
Speaker 3: it's a lot better to have just one voice be
Speaker 3: able to make decisions instead of ten eleven. But to
Speaker 3: Urban's point, what you really want is all of the
Speaker 3: top level schools and those conferences to be on the
Speaker 3: same page and then figure it out. So, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know who would would be. I don't know how
Speaker 3: it would be done, but it's not something that I've
Speaker 3: given tons of thought to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand the logic.
Speaker 4: In the idea we need to have it like a
Speaker 4: commissioner makes everything okay.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's also like the part of the oh, well, we
Speaker 4: just need to get rid of the NCAA. Well, so
Speaker 4: you're gonna have no ruling body. You're going to have
Speaker 4: a ruling body. The question is do you have a
Speaker 4: ruling And this is really what it cots down to.
Speaker 4: Are you going to have a ruling body that takes
Speaker 4: into account everybody or just the most powerful schools? And
Speaker 4: the best way to do it is probably how they
Speaker 4: do it in the House House of Representatives right where
Speaker 4: it's like weighted votes. That's really the way to do
Speaker 4: it is weighted votes. But if you have the way
Speaker 4: it is now is it's a lot like the Senate,
Speaker 4: where everybody has equal representation, no matter of the size
Speaker 4: of the state.
Speaker 3: Was I the only one who was waiting for Urban
Speaker 3: to say nobody you? I thought he was going to
Speaker 3: go down the road, I thought, But he did it.
Speaker 3: He learned. You know, so Doug, you walked so Urban
Speaker 3: could run. That's all right.
Speaker 7: I thought nobody you. Honestly, I thought it was some
Speaker 7: what kind of what is it? A colloquialism?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 7: A word anyways? A word that is used in a
Speaker 7: circle but is relatively unknown. I thought nobody you was
Speaker 7: something that you you talked among your coaches and players about.
Speaker 7: But you just came up with that term on the fly.
Speaker 5: Huh correct?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 4: And again so for people I haven't been I don't
Speaker 4: know we haven't talked about this in Dan Patrick's show.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I thought what happened to me last
Speaker 4: year last week was awful. It really sucked. It sucked
Speaker 4: to be a part of something where it's it was
Speaker 4: a burner account that I don't know if it's a
Speaker 4: real get person.
Speaker 5: No one's found who this real person was a burner account.
Speaker 4: Took a previous press conference where I was talking about
Speaker 4: how difficult our schedule was, and then when we lost
Speaker 4: to Michigan Tech, and like, look, do you think I'm
Speaker 4: happy about losing to a high quality Division two team
Speaker 4: with several players who are from Green Bay.
Speaker 3: No, which you stated on your radio show the day
Speaker 3: before the game, saying like this is the Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: Division two, but they're not the Division two that you know,
Speaker 3: like this is. They were coming off of what a
Speaker 3: top five win, so yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah they won I don't know, five in row or
Speaker 4: six in a row or something. I mean, they're really good.
Speaker 4: And like if you think Division two is somehow like
Speaker 4: look at Drake, Like they have four Division two kids
Speaker 4: that they're undefeated. They beat us, they beat us too,
Speaker 4: They're really good.
Speaker 5: They're ranked. So anyway, the point is.
Speaker 4: I was basically describing there are some teams low level
Speaker 4: Division two, mostly Division three, that they're kind of like
Speaker 4: traffic cones, and I specifically said, like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to play those games. Matter of fact, the weekend before,
Speaker 4: we had an opportunity to play a doubleheader on our
Speaker 4: on campus arena, which is a four thousand seed arena,
Speaker 4: the Cress Center, with the women, and my my thing
Speaker 4: was the women were playing Creighton, Like, the women are
Speaker 4: really good. They have seven returning seniors, they're picked to
Speaker 4: win their league, and they're good, and you know, like,
Speaker 4: are we going to go out there and play against
Speaker 4: a Division three team or a low level Division two
Speaker 4: team and ask people to stay for you know, five
Speaker 4: and a half six hours and watch two basketball games
Speaker 4: and no one's gonna want to stay for our game
Speaker 4: and it kind of be embarrassing to have the women
Speaker 4: out draw us.
Speaker 5: That was my thing.
Speaker 4: This is going back way back to going into September
Speaker 4: when we're filling.
Speaker 5: Out the last couple of games.
Speaker 4: So I have a couple of friends in the Big West,
Speaker 4: Joe Pasternak, a friend who's at Santa Barbara, and I
Speaker 4: was like, all right, well, what if we got out
Speaker 4: of here, and we need home games next year. What
Speaker 4: if we played a home and home and you know,
Speaker 4: you see, Irvine wanted to play, but they wanted to
Speaker 4: play here. Santa Barbara is going to play here, and
Speaker 4: we really needed home games this year, and I just
Speaker 4: said I will go out there and play well. Part
Speaker 4: of it is one that should have been a game
Speaker 4: which we needed to win to kind of regain our
Speaker 4: confidence and to you kind of shuffle your deck throughout
Speaker 4: the season, but you just needed to feel good about things.
Speaker 4: And every team in our league plays two games in
Speaker 4: which they literally could show up, not practice for a.
Speaker 5: Week and win the game. And we don't have any
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 4: And so what I was saying was like, I actually
Speaker 4: respect that fans pay money to come see a reputable
Speaker 4: basketball game. I just, again in my office in September,
Speaker 4: didn't feel good about not having really competitive games. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: Michigan Tech, that'll be competitive. Be a good game. Did
Speaker 4: I think we'd win. Yeah, you know, we didn't have
Speaker 4: the nation's leading scorer. He's hurt, and my point guard
Speaker 4: got hurt. When we're up thirteen, he dives on the
Speaker 4: floor and hurt gets a concussion, hurts his neck, you know, like,
Speaker 4: and then we choked away a game we should have
Speaker 4: won and they were really good. So that happens, Like
Speaker 4: that's sports. Our margins are really really slight because we're
Speaker 4: not that much better than them and they can beat us.
Speaker 4: And so I was going on and on about how
Speaker 4: I got to learn about scheduling and not scheduled teams
Speaker 4: like a Michigan Tech that or not scheduled teams like
Speaker 4: a Santa Barbara when I'm filling it a game and
Speaker 4: they were really good, like there, that's a game we
Speaker 4: were I think we were twenty point underdogs going to
Speaker 4: that game or something crazy going down there. Right, So
Speaker 4: the point is that that's what was actually said, and
Speaker 4: then it was weaponized against me in a complete It
Speaker 4: wasn't just mischaracterized. It was the opposite of what I
Speaker 4: was saying and how it was portrayed, and then people
Speaker 4: pick it up and reputable news organizations use it, which
Speaker 4: again like that that felt the opposite of good, felt
Speaker 4: like it was super unfair. But now I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I created a term nobody you maybe I should trademark
Speaker 4: that thing, Dan, Can I trademark it?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: You should get something out of it, That's for sure.
Speaker 5: It was not not fun.
Speaker 4: Let's welcome in Jared Smith, Fox Sports Radio betting analysts,
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Speaker 5: Jared.
Speaker 4: Let's start with last night was what was your pregame
Speaker 4: analysis on the line? Was a twelve at kickoff?
Speaker 5: Is that what it was? And fifty was the over under?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was at twelve and a half and fifty.
Speaker 8: I think it was fifty three to fifty four. We
Speaker 8: did get some money on the over late. I like
Speaker 8: Penn State in the game. I liked the over over
Speaker 8: didn't get home. Penn State did the big takeaway for me.
Speaker 8: And I think I've created a chart last night. And
Speaker 8: on the left, I put pass on the right, I
Speaker 8: put run boise first and ten. Every time they ran
Speaker 8: the ball on first and ten, I put a check
Speaker 8: mark on the right. Every time they passed it on
Speaker 8: first and tent, I put a check mark on the left.
Speaker 8: And my analysis was if Dirk Cutter the OC of
Speaker 8: Boise State does not you know, throw curveballs here, which
Speaker 8: is essentially first and ten.
Speaker 2: Boise likes to ron ron and then throw on third down.
Speaker 2: Very predictable, very vanilla offense.
Speaker 8: They're gonna have to change things up and get aggressive
Speaker 8: in order for them to win this game. Well, my
Speaker 8: final count was nineteen runs on first and ten seven passes.
Speaker 8: One of the passes was the play action touchdown on
Speaker 8: that tight end leak play early in the second half,
Speaker 8: which is really well designed play. But they didn't do
Speaker 8: enough of the you know, changing of their of their
Speaker 8: scheme in order to make things different for Penn State.
Speaker 8: Because you just line up and play that game. Penn
Speaker 8: State's obviously the better football team. A lot of those
Speaker 8: first down runs were you know, gain a two gain
Speaker 8: of four. Genty got a little bit of smoke late
Speaker 8: in the game, as he tends to do once the
Speaker 8: defense wears down a little bit.
Speaker 2: But the Abdul Carter injury was huge for Penn State.
Speaker 8: I thought the offense played well, too many mistakes penalties.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have.
Speaker 8: A much tougher goal of it in the next round
Speaker 8: against Notre dameer Georgia because they can't just out physical
Speaker 8: one of those teams, like last night, Penn State just
Speaker 8: kind of got by on some of their talent. I
Speaker 8: think against Notre damer Georgia and the Orange Bowl next week,
Speaker 8: they're gonna have to play much cleaner football and they're
Speaker 8: gonna have to do something spectacular on the offensive side
Speaker 8: because the defense is Boise's defense was not ready for
Speaker 8: that physicality last night from the Penn State offensive line.
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a very different game next week.
Speaker 8: But as an a lawm, I'm thrilled I'll be in
Speaker 8: Miami for the game.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be an awesome experience.
Speaker 8: But I think it's going to be a very different
Speaker 8: vibe when they actually step up in class, because, let's
Speaker 8: be honest, Boise just not worthy of a buy in
Speaker 8: a three seed and a gift into the quarterfinals. They've
Speaker 8: got a little bit of work to do, but a
Speaker 8: great season for the Broncos.
Speaker 3: I think you sufficiently analyzed Penn State, Doug and I
Speaker 3: talked to earlier of really still not knowing how good
Speaker 3: they are. They're a good football team, but this early
Speaker 3: run in the playoff, you can't tell much from SMU
Speaker 3: and Boise State. So I'm gonna shift gears to the
Speaker 3: Sugar Bowl. How good is Georgia without Carson Beck as
Speaker 3: they take on Notre Dame tonight.
Speaker 2: It's a good question, Dan.
Speaker 8: I think from everything I've heard, he's a gamer and
Speaker 8: he doesn't have the talent that Carson Beck has, but
Speaker 8: he does have the moxie and there's a story about him.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: He's really not a highly town to recruit coming out
Speaker 8: of high school ranks in Georgia, but very very prolific
Speaker 8: passer actually had I think he beat out Watson and
Speaker 8: the other high school quarterback to Georgia that has all
Speaker 8: the yards. He did have a really prolific season, but
Speaker 8: doesn't have the physical tools that a Carson Beck might have.
Speaker 8: But he went to this camp, you know, coming out
Speaker 8: and before he went to Georgia, and by the end
Speaker 8: of the camp, I heard all the quarterbacks and receivers
Speaker 8: were like gravitating around him, like he's one of those
Speaker 8: magnetizing personalities. And I think he's gonna need it in
Speaker 8: this game. He tailed off a little bit in the
Speaker 8: SEC Championship game. He started out, you know fast. I
Speaker 8: think the element of surprise kind of caught Texas off
Speaker 8: guard there, but then their defense settled in. I think
Speaker 8: the key in this game, the matchup really in this game, though,
Speaker 8: is going to be Georgia's defense against that Notre Dame offense.
Speaker 2: I think the game plan for Kirby Smart is very simple.
Speaker 8: When you're facing a mobile quarterback like Riley Leonard and
Speaker 8: you're trying to deal with that. You know, the running
Speaker 8: game for Jeremiah Love. You start with the extra defender
Speaker 8: in the box. You're not worried about Notre Dame beating
Speaker 8: you deep on an explosive pass play on early downs.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see less blitzing.
Speaker 8: George's big win against Texas earlier this year, they blitzed
Speaker 8: a ton. You don't want to blitz a mobile quarterback
Speaker 8: because that's how you kind of activate his legs. And
Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see a ton of zone coverage
Speaker 8: because when you're playing zone coverage, instead of playing man
Speaker 8: to man where you're running with defenders your backs to
Speaker 8: the quarterback, when you play zone, you drop back eyes
Speaker 8: on the quarterback and if he does break the pocket,
Speaker 8: then you've you've got you know, eleven eyeball or eleven
Speaker 8: sets of eyeballs all watching him, and just in general.
Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see some stunts as well, because
Speaker 8: if you don't blitz a lot, you got to figure
Speaker 8: out why to ge pressure. Notre Dame struggle to block
Speaker 8: stunts this year. So I think the game plan for
Speaker 8: Kirby Smart is very simple. The priors say, with extra
Speaker 8: time to prepare for a relatively one dimensional offense, Georgia's
Speaker 8: defense is gonna show up in this game. The volatility
Speaker 8: here is is can gunner stocked in be at least
Speaker 8: efficient enough don't make the big mistake.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna lean heavily on the run with ETN.
Speaker 8: Can they get sufficient offense down to down to kind
Speaker 8: of keep Notre Dames offense off the field. So I
Speaker 8: think that's kind of the game within the game here.
Speaker 8: I do expect the running games for both sides to
Speaker 8: be prominent. I think the undermakes sense here. Forty five
Speaker 8: and a half felt like when we saw that number
Speaker 8: move up a little bit earlier this week, it was
Speaker 8: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit too high. So I'm on the under forty five
Speaker 2: and a half Georgia Notre Dame tonight.
Speaker 4: All right, Georgia Notre Dame is the nightcap Tonight's let's
Speaker 4: before we get there, Okay, let's work to Texas taking
Speaker 4: on Arizona State.
Speaker 5: Right, that's the game that's going to take place.
Speaker 4: Kickoff in about an hour and twenty five minutes or so.
Speaker 4: Sun Devils have travel all the way to Georgia take
Speaker 4: on the Horns. Horns have only lost to one team
Speaker 4: this year, that being Georgia. If you haven't seen Cam
Speaker 4: scattabow play, I mean that is a that is a
Speaker 4: hard running, tough dude. And Texas, for as good as
Speaker 4: they look on paper, yeah, offense, quarterback play you know,
Speaker 4: just been okay, especially late in the season. But a big,
Speaker 4: big number Jared Big it's what thirteen and a half
Speaker 4: right now, and the total fifty two?
Speaker 8: Yeah, massive, And we're actually seeing some movement on Texas
Speaker 8: this morning. I actually just saw a shop go to fourteen,
Speaker 8: and I think that kind of aligns with what we've
Speaker 8: seen in the CFP, right, Doug like it just the
Speaker 8: favorites have just been covering it at a crazy rate.
Speaker 2: Five and zero now. Actually, after last night's Penn State game.
Speaker 8: Scatabo is insane second best run grade in the country
Speaker 8: behind gent and The thing about scatabow and this is
Speaker 8: it kind of goes back to the Boise State thing
Speaker 8: last night. They need to be different with the way
Speaker 8: they get him the football because you can't just hand
Speaker 8: it off to him on first and ten. Texas knows
Speaker 8: it's coming. Arizona State's top receiver is out like it.
Speaker 8: It's too obvious.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: The one thing Arizona State does well, actually they do
Speaker 8: it well and they do it in high volume. They
Speaker 8: are a screen team, very heavy screen. Twenty four percent
Speaker 8: of their passing players or screens. And that's something that
Speaker 8: I think can be different for Scatabo. Get him involved
Speaker 8: in the passing game. He's been very effective in that
Speaker 8: department this year. I actually like Sam Levitt season. He's
Speaker 8: had a great year the quarterback for Arizona State. He's
Speaker 8: top ten and qbo are Since Week six, he's got
Speaker 8: the tied for the most passing touchdowns in the country.
Speaker 8: But Arizona's offensive line, Arizona States offensive line, it just
Speaker 8: struggles to block. So is he gonna be able to
Speaker 8: stay upright? Is Skatabog gonna be able to get anything
Speaker 8: going in the ground game? I mean this Texas defense
Speaker 8: of the four units on the field. Hands down, the
Speaker 8: top four Taffy at safety goes from walk on to
Speaker 8: all American. You got the mccuba kid from Clemson who's
Speaker 8: like a heat seeking missile in the back and an upfront.
Speaker 8: Simmons is the impact freshman off the edge. I like
Speaker 8: Collins at defensive tackle. He's gonna eat up a ton
Speaker 8: of space. That's gonna be an interesting matchup. Can they
Speaker 8: move Collins at all in the middle and get scatabo
Speaker 8: you some space. The Clemson game against Texas last week
Speaker 8: was an anomaly that they were the first team all
Speaker 8: year to gain more than three hundred yards against the
Speaker 8: Sexas defense.
Speaker 2: Club Nick played the game of his life. It was
Speaker 2: a homecoming game.
Speaker 8: Clemson's got legit weapons on the outside, Like, I just
Speaker 8: don't know if Arizona State has that kind of fire
Speaker 8: power to go down to down against his Texas defense
Speaker 8: on the other side of the ball. That's where I
Speaker 8: see the volatility Kenny dilling long rest defensive mind.
Speaker 2: He's going to be aggressive in this game.
Speaker 8: But I don't know how Arizona State get stops on
Speaker 8: paper Texas o line. If you remove the two Georgia
Speaker 8: data points top five and pressure rate allowed this year
Speaker 8: and Arizona State doesn't get pressure, so I think yours
Speaker 8: is going to be kept upright. Isaiah Bond coming back
Speaker 8: from injury, their game breaking receiver, Golden's coming off his
Speaker 8: best game, Silas Bolden more defined role. I like Helm
Speaker 8: the tight end as well, So Sark's gonna have you
Speaker 8: the pick of the litter here. He always has an
Speaker 8: elite script. I think the game plan very difficult to
Speaker 8: key in on anyone, and the Arizona State defense is
Speaker 8: very undermanned. So if that Texas run game gets rolling
Speaker 8: and then they go play action off of it, like
Speaker 8: it just it feels like this one could get out
Speaker 8: of hand. And the sun Devils haven't faced the top
Speaker 8: thirty passing attack all year, so again, if if viewers
Speaker 8: has time to throw, I think this one might be
Speaker 8: a blowout early in the day.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we got to get to the granddaddy
Speaker 3: of them all, and if we're going to do the
Speaker 3: rose ball, we got to hear from Keith Jackson. Ordinately,
Speaker 3: it's my favorite j Stuart impression. Uh Charon Ohio, State
Speaker 3: of Oregon. Sorry that was only for my benefit. I
Speaker 3: just awesome. I love it. Uh All right, Buck, guys
Speaker 3: and ducks. We've talked on this program a lot about
Speaker 3: this game. I'll be there in attendance by myself, Yes,
Speaker 3: so by myself. Have a hundred thousand people there, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand of my best friends. What's uh? What
Speaker 3: is the Oregon side of things? Because we talked so
Speaker 3: much about Ohio State and what they didn't do. What
Speaker 3: about Oregon entering this game is kind of the other
Speaker 3: what underdog? But still the number one seed? Take a
Speaker 3: look wild duck side of things.
Speaker 2: Isn't it wild?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 8: And I think the average college football fan that really
Speaker 8: hasn't been involved in the you know, the discourse with
Speaker 8: the seedings and everything and and and they look at
Speaker 8: this game and they're like, yeah, okay, oh, I'll stated
Speaker 8: to an a point favorite of ORG. And that makes sense, right,
Speaker 8: Organ's undefeated, number one seed, like it just it is
Speaker 8: a very unique number to kind of digest.
Speaker 2: And that's why we haven't seen any movement. Like literally and.
Speaker 8: Actually, as I as I say this, now, we're seeing
Speaker 8: a little bit just a hair of steam on Ohio State.
Speaker 8: I saw one shot kind of now push their two
Speaker 8: and a half to like a two point seventy five,
Speaker 8: like we're getting closer to three. I think we do
Speaker 8: close three on Ohio State. I think Ohio State's the
Speaker 8: right side in this game, and I think it's.
Speaker 2: It's more so.
Speaker 8: I trust their coaching staff a little bit more to
Speaker 8: make the right adjustments. Now, the one thing that does
Speaker 8: scare me, like Chip Kelly shot has gone against Tennessee.
Speaker 8: They went very off script, they went tempo, they went
Speaker 8: pass happy early. That was their element of surprise. Dan
Speaker 8: Lanning still has an element of surprise.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: I don't know what that is going to be, but
Speaker 8: I do think there is going to be a moment
Speaker 8: in this game where Oregon grabs momentum and the question
Speaker 8: is can they finish the job?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what this is. Oh it's tough
Speaker 2: to beat a team twice in the same season.
Speaker 8: Like, I don't necessarily buy into that kind of rhetoric
Speaker 8: because I think it's all about matchups, and I think
Speaker 8: the extended rest.
Speaker 2: For Oregon does that and played a game in nearly
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 8: So we'll see what Dan Lanning comes up with and
Speaker 8: we'll see if Chip Kelly can figure out a way
Speaker 8: to combat it. Because I think the the chess match
Speaker 8: in this game is the Ohio State offense against the
Speaker 8: Oregon defense.
Speaker 2: Now, when Oregon stepped.
Speaker 8: Up in class this year Boise State Week two, Ohio
Speaker 8: State earlier in the year, Penn State in the Big
Speaker 8: Ten title game, those three offenses averaged a fifty five
Speaker 8: percent success rate.
Speaker 2: So that to me is a little unique.
Speaker 8: Now if you go back and I watched the Ohio
Speaker 8: State tape from earlier this season, and Birch was down
Speaker 8: in that game Oregon's best defender and Ohio State at
Speaker 8: two starting offensive lineman up.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like a plus three minus three.
Speaker 8: You take three guys that didn't play, or you know,
Speaker 8: one guy for Oregon that didn't play, two guys that did,
Speaker 8: and he flip that in this game. I think that obviously,
Speaker 8: you know, gives a little bit more of an edge
Speaker 8: to Oregon. And the fact that they drove it to
Speaker 8: the two in the twenty six yard line and in
Speaker 8: the first game and didn't score and botched an extra point,
Speaker 8: I think that also, you know, gives you belief that
Speaker 8: Oregon can win this football game. But at the end
Speaker 8: of the day, I think Ohio State's defense probably played
Speaker 8: its worst game of the US I mean, they just
Speaker 8: played a ton of Cover one. They got burned by
Speaker 8: Tedes Johnson. I think you're gonna see more Cover two.
Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see a little more conservative game
Speaker 8: plan from Jim Knowles. You can't let Tes Johnson is
Speaker 8: the game breaker here. Like when Oregon's offense has struggled
Speaker 8: this year, it's because Seed Johnson hasn't been on the field,
Speaker 8: And I think that's the key matchup. Can Condenzel Berrick
Speaker 8: in this secondary for the buck guys, which got Torch
Speaker 8: absolutely Torch in the first matchup?
Speaker 2: Can they make the right.
Speaker 8: Adjustments and just don't give up the big play, Like
Speaker 8: make Dylan Gabriel, who's one of the most accurate quarterbacks
Speaker 8: in college football, just six turnover worthy plays all season,
Speaker 8: but four of them have been in the red zone.
Speaker 8: So if you make him go down to down, slow, methodical,
Speaker 8: and then you got to score all you know you're
Speaker 8: not just gonna get a big explosive play that's going
Speaker 8: to eliminate the red zone. Like I think the red
Speaker 8: zone defense is where Ohio State has the edge here
Speaker 8: because Oregon isn't as powerful with their running game, their
Speaker 8: offensive line, They're not gonna move you in space.
Speaker 2: They're better at creating creases.
Speaker 8: So I do think Ohio State's to play. I bet
Speaker 8: it now though, because I'll be honest as I talk. Now,
Speaker 8: more shops are going to three, so it does look
Speaker 8: like we're getting a little bit of steam on the Buckeyes.
Speaker 4: By the way, you said, it's all about matchups, and
Speaker 4: then you point out all the adjustments that have to
Speaker 4: be made, which is why it's so hard to beat
Speaker 4: a team twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the same season.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it done.
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Speaker 4: Good morning to you, Happy New Year. It is twenty
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Speaker 5: I think you'll enjoy it. Do we get chaos today, Dan?
Speaker 3: I don't know the only way that we could is
Speaker 3: if I think Arizona State wins just because of the
Speaker 3: matchups the other two. I don't think anybody would be shocked.
Speaker 3: If Ohio State, the favorite, goes and beats top seed
Speaker 3: at Oregon, or if Notre Dame goes in and beats
Speaker 3: Georgia with a backup quarterback, I don't think that those
Speaker 3: things are shocking. A lot of nobody's really just saying
Speaker 3: a lot of great things about Arizona State. So I'd
Speaker 3: love to see if they could do something. Texas isn't perfect,
Speaker 3: and maybe there's a chance again in the quarter that
Speaker 3: we saw them, they look great and stillwater they did.
Speaker 4: But if you saw it, yes, if you if you
Speaker 4: saw anybody who went against Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: State looked pretty good this year far enough.
Speaker 4: Defense was was a bit of a struggle after the
Speaker 4: Arkansas game when they lost the three best defensive players
Speaker 4: and we weren't particularly good. So it is hard to
Speaker 4: tell obviously most of the Big Twelve. And look, it's
Speaker 4: always fun to root against Texas. Texas in many ways
Speaker 4: became the new age Notre Dame, right, But now Texas
Speaker 4: is legit good and their back, So the Big Twelve
Speaker 4: was still the One thing I will say, and this
Speaker 4: is from the from a Big Twelve alum, I love
Speaker 4: what Arizona State's done. I love what BYU's done. They
Speaker 4: are good. I mean, Kansas has turned around. Obviously, they
Speaker 4: were disappointing the start the year finished up a little
Speaker 4: bit better. Iowa State okay, but the fact that Iowa
Speaker 4: State and Arizona State and BYU are able to be
Speaker 4: and like, look at Colorado. Like Colorado was one of
Speaker 4: the worst teams in the Pac twelve last year. They
Speaker 4: changed some things and improved some offensive line stuff, but
Speaker 4: they became one of the elite teams in the Big
Speaker 4: Twelve this year. It tells you the level of competition.
Speaker 4: That's just the only thing you can say about it.
Speaker 4: I just the Big twelve does not have the money
Speaker 4: of the sec of the Big ten and does not
Speaker 4: have the schools in the reach. And I mean I
Speaker 4: think you know the one school that I think could
Speaker 4: get there. You know it is probably Texas Tech. They
Speaker 4: have a lot of that old money. Arizona State has
Speaker 4: the number of alums that you should be able to
Speaker 4: get there. And maybe this this will energize people, or
Speaker 4: watching today will energize people. But Texas has a couple
Speaker 4: of years head start on and their budget is at
Speaker 4: least two x that of Arizona State.
Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if this one, this one was close.
Speaker 4: And then I guess you answered asked the question, are
Speaker 4: we actually better off with this playoff than any of
Speaker 4: the traditional bowl system, the BCS Championship game or the
Speaker 4: four team playoff?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: And I know this is the infancy, and I think
Speaker 4: it will get better, but are we really better off
Speaker 4: with this?
Speaker 3: Yes? We are. We are may have gone too much,
Speaker 3: but it is better than the four team We now
Speaker 3: have eleven games that matter instead of three.
Speaker 4: We're also showing that there's a clear delineation between like
Speaker 4: eight or six and everybody else.
Speaker 3: I thought it always would have been six, but I'd
Speaker 3: rather have twelve than four.
Speaker 4: To be honest, I think six makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 4: Now four leagues and then you get two at large's.
Speaker 4: But we're not going back. No, there's no contraction. There's
Speaker 4: no contraction. Well for Dan Byer, for Iowa Sam, and
Speaker 4: of course for Jason Stewart. We appreciate you joining us
Speaker 4: here on New Year's Day. Enjoy the football and enjoy
Speaker 4: the festivities. I mean it will be a little bit
Speaker 4: of a throwback to how it used to be when
Speaker 4: we're kids. Where now the first of January becomes small
Speaker 4: college football.
Speaker 3: And Doug our thoughts to everyone in New Orleans for
Speaker 3: that tragedy that occurred earlier today.
Speaker 5: So it's great to get excited about sports, but that
Speaker 5: really just takes away from it.
Speaker 4: Happy to year, be safe, enjoy the football. This is
Speaker 4: Dan Patricks Show, always on Fox Sports Radio.