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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, we're back on kind of Famous, breaking

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Speaker 2: down the final three episodes of our new favorite dating show,

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Speaker 2: Love Overboard. This has been such a funny, hilarious and

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Speaker 2: dramatic journey on this show, and finally we get to

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Speaker 2: see who wins.

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Speaker 3: Heather, just before we get into it all, were you surprised.

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Speaker 4: By who won this show? Well?

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Speaker 2: I was, and I'm not going to give it away

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Speaker 2: because we're at the top of our episode here, but

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Speaker 2: I was because I had a couple pegged to win.

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Speaker 2: So I would say that I was a little bit

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Speaker 2: at a loss and some grief at the end of

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Speaker 2: this episode because who I had pegged to win didn't win,

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Speaker 2: and they're the cutest, cutest, cutest cutest.

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Speaker 3: I got the winner spoiled to me by a title

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Speaker 3: of an article three days ago, so I already knew

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Speaker 3: what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned it in our last episode, and I

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Speaker 2: saw it. I purposely did not open up my social

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Speaker 2: media yesterday, thank you for the warning, but I saw

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Speaker 2: it after I finished the three episodes.

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Speaker 3: It's hard just in how fast the internet moves with

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Speaker 3: these shows, and especially with something like this where they

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Speaker 3: dumped all the episodes, it's similar. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: when I'm watching Secret Lives and Mormon Wives on Hulu

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Speaker 3: and they drop nine episodes, that's my weekend. I sit

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Speaker 3: there and I will watch all nine in forty eight hours.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: So I kind of enjoyed this, like watching a couple

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Speaker 3: every night and stopping myself. But it is really hard

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Speaker 3: to avoid the spoilers on the internet, for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know what I did do myself just the tiniest

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Speaker 2: service and read some of the comments on that article,

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Speaker 2: and you were not alone. The majority, ninety eight percent

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Speaker 2: of them were like, really, bro, Like could you just

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Speaker 2: wait a little bit? Like you ruined the entire thing

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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 4: In under a week.

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Speaker 3: Is kind of meanited people like, there's a way to

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Speaker 3: release articles similar to what we do here on the pod.

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Speaker 3: We say spoiler alert. You can use a static image

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Speaker 3: that is not of the people on the cast or

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Speaker 3: just the logo of the show, like it's it's a

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Speaker 3: purposeful thing.

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Speaker 4: When they do something like that. I agree.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump right in, because you guys, as we started

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Speaker 2: this episode, we were chatting a little bit and I

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Speaker 2: do believe it was a stretch to bring out the

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Speaker 2: end of the show in three episodes. I could have

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Speaker 2: done with one. Two is a stretch for me, but

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Speaker 2: I think they could have wrapped it up a little

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Speaker 2: bit quicker. So let's jump right into episode seven, Heather.

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Speaker 2: This episode opens with the cast going to their beach

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Speaker 2: party and shockingly, they're being greeted by the exes that

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Speaker 2: were sent overboard. David is so anxious from jump that

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Speaker 2: Low might be there as well. I mean, like we

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Speaker 2: see him just so sweaty, and he is talking about

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Speaker 2: how sweaty he is, like he is just crippled with anxiety. Rightfully, so,

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Speaker 2: given everything he has done and put her through and

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Speaker 2: himself and vow to like the whole triangle was clinging

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Speaker 2: to every word, and we kind of get in some

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Speaker 2: sort of passing moment, we get kind of an idea

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Speaker 2: of how much time has actually elapsed between this decision

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Speaker 2: and where they're at now, And it's been about two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Val says that they've been spending time together, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been two weeks of no Low. So it feels

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Speaker 2: been a little bit more time. So you know what

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Speaker 2: is interesting to me from a reality TV standpoint, Like

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Speaker 2: when I was on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, the

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Speaker 2: contestants get sent home like they might keep them in

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Speaker 2: stay through the longevity of filming. And it became clear

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Speaker 3: I think that was planned, so they don't know ahead

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Speaker 3: of time who is going home or who's being eliminated when.

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Speaker 4: But when you do.

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Speaker 3: A casting like this, I think the assumption was always

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Speaker 3: four weeks, six weeks, and when you get eliminated, you

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Speaker 4: I go back to the hotel.

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Speaker 3: People usually like love that because they're sick of the

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Speaker 3: cameras being in their face. In this situation too, if

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Speaker 4: That's a misconception.

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Speaker 3: Just because you're not filming the show doesn't mean you

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Speaker 3: just get to go vacation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not trooping around Malta on your own.

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Speaker 3: You have a handler with you, and you're probably still

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember that part.

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Speaker 2: For the most part, I was confined to a hotel

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Speaker 2: what I mean, that took me to and from anyway,

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Speaker 2: I found that very interesting, all right. So we are

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Speaker 2: then shown like Gabby comes out. She's she was very

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Speaker 4: Gabby comes out.

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Speaker 2: The exiles can tempt their way back onto the yacht

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Speaker 2: with someone who's single, and if two exiles connect, they

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Speaker 2: he's interested in Sophia, and I don't know, these were

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Speaker 2: Sophia's goal is to tell Andrew she doesn't like him

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Speaker 2: For me, what felt like chaos in the first episode.

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Speaker 2: There were just so many bits that I don't think

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Speaker 3: I think it would have been funnier just to see

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Speaker 3: other up on the drama. I don't know if we

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Speaker 4: Try to break up a couple.

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Speaker 3: That's probably not gonna happen at this point, Like everybody's

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Speaker 3: And like two exiles coupling up and getting back on,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it happens, but it's kind of unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: None of this mattered. I cared about just a couple

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Speaker 2: her role in the show was very minimal, but she

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Speaker 2: says none of the girls like Andrew. She calls him egotistical,

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Speaker 2: which Heather We've been discussing this since episode one, about

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Speaker 2: how it's just not there for him. He is so

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Speaker 2: So there's a part of me that was like screaming

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Speaker 2: watching that episode. I'm like, I can't wait for Heather

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Speaker 2: to see this because were you just like, amen, sister,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think egotistical is kind of like mean.

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Speaker 4: I think that like.

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Speaker 3: Andrew is just, for lack of a better term, dnse Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he just like kind of just sees what's

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Speaker 4: Think that he's egotistical.

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Speaker 3: To me, is like somebody who walks around and is like,

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Speaker 4: That's what I will.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, though, you don't think that in the

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Speaker 3: I think that like everybody on this ship knows that

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Speaker 3: and they were probably like, it's a competition. I gotta

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Speaker 3: I give him a little bit of a pass on that.

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Speaker 3: I just think that, like, this whole conversation with Sophia

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Speaker 3: don't think she had any intention on like ever speaking

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, because she left on a high note,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. She at least like let

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Speaker 2: I also, I'm with you. I really didn't need this

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Speaker 2: kind of gross. What I did need was Low. That's

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Speaker 2: what I needed. Low enters and the girls are excited

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Speaker 2: They all run over. They're so happy, greet her with hugs,

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Speaker 2: and they immediately give Low the info. They tell her

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Speaker 2: that Val gave David a blowjob on their date, like

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Speaker 2: when I was watching these episodes, I'm thinking about all

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Speaker 2: the things that we talked about, and I was, I

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Speaker 2: don't know when you and I spoke about it before.

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Speaker 2: It didn't bother me at first, but it really bothered

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Speaker 3: But how on the money were we We literally said, like,

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Speaker 3: And then all of our words were literally being said

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Speaker 4: They were like, Wow, you.

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Speaker 3: Really shouldn't slut shame her. Wow, you're like anger is misdirected.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't he do that? Why didn't he defend her.

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Speaker 3: However, many days before Val ever showed up, all you

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Speaker 4: Bro. You already told KRII as soon as it happened,

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Speaker 3: What happened when it went down. Everybody on the boat

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Speaker 3: You're not interested in respecting VAL's privacy. You don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, see your way out girl.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: We see Reese and Sophia. They choose to couple up,

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. They go on to be

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Speaker 3: It feels like they did something with them that we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we see Spin the Bottle. I love how

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Speaker 4: I've never played spin the bottle this way really life.

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Speaker 2: Oh I played it when I was really young, Heather,

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Speaker 3: This was very Love Island esque, this whole situation. They

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, totally. We see some drama come

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Speaker 2: I'll take it from Tim. We see a lot of

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Speaker 2: and I think it was all in fun that he

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Speaker 3: we see Lexi and James. Their conversation doesn't go as

439
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: smooth the first go around, but James quickly rebounds and

440
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: comes back.

441
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: I love them. I love them, Heather. They are little

442
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: cutie patuities, cutie patuities. I just want to like hold

443
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: them and take them to lunch and tell them just

444
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: how cute they are. I love them, I love them,

445
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: I love them, I love them.

446
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: All right.

447
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Uh, we see Keith and Delaney kiss finally.

448
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why that to go them.

449
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna see more, but you know, it feels very

450
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: forced for me. Heather, It's fine, We're gonna get to

451
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: the two of them.

452
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 4: He also straddles her.

453
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: He does I saw this.

454
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

455
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna bring it up because I thought that

456
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: I was the only one. I was like, something's wrong

457
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: with me. Clearly, Heather, something is wrong with me. But

458
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: in that moment when we are seeing that and he

459
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: straddles her, my immediately thought. I immediately thought in my

460
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 2: own head, I'm like, why is why is.

461
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: He's straddling her?

462
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: This feels very feminine for me.

463
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: She was like asking him, like what do you think

464
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 4: about me? Or something? He's like, does this show you

465
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: what I think about you?

466
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: And I was just like, we have to remember that

467
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: he's twenty three. He seems so mature because of his career,

468
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: and he doesn't drink, so we don't see a lot

469
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: of stupidity from him, but in certain moments where we

470
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: expect emotional maturity, it's not there. He's twenty three.

471
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: You make a good point. I actually completely forgot how

472
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: old he is.

473
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fine. Jake and Christine, these two I

474
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: am so they have great physical chemistry, but Christine wants

475
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: to see more there and all I'm getting is their

476
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: physical chemistry. Like the two of them were like ready

477
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: to get it on, like the second they led eyes

478
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: on each other. So you know what, they're having fun.

479
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: We'll let them have fun, all right, The next day,

480
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: Gabby announces the next challenge that it's for couples. Everyone

481
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: has twenty minutes to couple up. We end up with

482
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: Andrew and Enna. They're still together that deep friend connection.

483
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Shade and Bradley couple up, friend connection, and then all

484
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: of the other couples they remain the same. Heather untouched.

485
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: I want to know if you have noticed at this

486
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: point we haven't seen our one lonely guy. We talked

487
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: about it in our last episode, Heather, how he has

488
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: just fallen to the wayside at this point, even with

489
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: this warning from Gabby that they have twenty minutes to

490
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: couple up, he's nowhere to be found.

491
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: My guess is because he also doesn't like look extremely

493
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: happy when he is on camera, So my.

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: Guess is that he is A guess is that he

495
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: was not happy when he got on board, being whether.

496
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: It was that he was a late comer or that

497
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: like the girls weren't his type or whatever whatever. But

498
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: I think he was just not down to play ball

499
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: like an Enna or an Andrew who wasn't making a

500
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: romantic connection. And I think that he probably seemed grumpy

501
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: and they were probably like we got other people that

502
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: we can focus on and we're just not going to

503
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: talk to you or ask you to come into the

504
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 3: interview chair at all. Because he also doesn't seem to

505
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: have a sense of humor about the experience, and that's

506
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: kind of just again, when you go on these shows,

507
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: it is unlikely that you're going to find long lasting love.

508
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 3: What it is more likely is that you're going to

509
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: make friends and that you're going to have a good time,

510
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: and that you're going to do crazy experiences. But if

511
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: you come in thinking that you're going to go to

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: Poundtown or something every single night everybody's really hot, and

513
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: then that's not happening because you're sleeping in a twin

514
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: bunk bed down, they're sorely disappointed.

515
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: You're going to be upset. So especially people too.

516
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: For a lot of these shows, as it probably is

517
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 3: very obvious, a lot of these people we go after

518
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: for other shows, so they have kind of like sometimes

519
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: the pick of like what show they want to go

520
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: on because they've been approached by so many.

521
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: So if this guy has been like holding out to go.

522
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: On a dating show and he finally agrees to go

523
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 3: on one, and then this is his experience, is that

524
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: he doesn't like think anybody's hot or he doesn't have

525
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: a connection, then yeah, he's probably bummed.

526
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well we saw that. Yeah, it's fine. Gabby

527
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: says that they have nine couples, but there is only

528
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: room for five of the couples on the top side.

529
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: At this there is no more downside, which, like everyone

530
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 2: seems really thrilled about. All the couples will vote on

531
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: who gets to stay. The four couples with the least

532
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: amount of votes will be going overboard. Listen, at this point,

533
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: I am ready to clean house. I'm ready to clean ship.

534
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: Let's send a few overboard. Let's really dial it in

535
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: so I'm here for it. Let's run on over to

536
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: episode eight. The episode opens with the couple's Court, where

537
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: the cast members have to plead as to why they

538
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: should stay on the yacht before they cast their votes.

539
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: Four couples will be going overboard today. We could rush

540
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: this a little bit, Heather, and there was a lot

541
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: of nonsense here that I just didn't need. At the

542
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: couple's Court, Reese thinks he and Sophia have a target

543
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: on their backs because they came in late. Reese, you

544
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: do so exactly. I don't think anybody really cared for

545
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Reese and Sophia anyway, But it just at this point,

546
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: so many of those people have deep connections and deep

547
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: friendships that like Reese and Sofia, just didn't stand a chance.

548
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. Shade uses her chance

549
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: to speak up to say that she's leaving the yacht

550
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: because she didn't meet her person. I have nothing but

551
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: respect for someone who can just see their way out.

552
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: We saw Bella do it, now we see Shade like,

553
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: please send me. I don't need to, I'll just jump in.

554
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: It's fine. Lexi says that she and James have been

555
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: together the longest, so they deserve to stay. I'm here

556
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: for it, Lexi. I'm with you, girl. Delaney tells everyone

557
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: that she and Keith kissed for the first time last night.

558
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: Hurrah right. Christine gets emotional, saying how good Jake makes

559
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: her feel.

560
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: Oh, Heather, I don't see it, but okay, I.

561
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: Don't see it either, but like, I'm here for love,

562
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, let's yeah. Nna says that she and

563
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Andrew have a strong rel life relationship, and the others

564
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: point out that they are just friends. So listen, I

565
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: give an a the Emmy here for her speech, yeah,

566
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: for her role, for how solid she plays this part.

567
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: But the others are right. They actually have like a

568
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: true connection. They are dating, and why would we keep

569
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: at Andrew. They're just friends, they're here for vacation for

570
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: the summer. It doesn't make any.

571
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Sense exactly, and a babe, you didn't have a chance

572
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: with this one. And it's funny because she tries to

573
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: like poke holes in like everybody else's relationship and say

574
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: why their friendship is so strong, and it's like, Okay,

575
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: you're having fun, Like stop this is this is not real.

576
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: But it's David when he says that he and Val

577
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: have gone through the biggest real world struggles, which means

578
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: they can make it.

579
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: On the outside.

580
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: And then David calls out Kari and says he doesn't

581
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: see Kari and Leila working out and that they look

582
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: fake and he tells Krai he deserves better.

583
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand this. I'm like I for those listening,

584
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: I am so uncomfortable right now, I'm starting to sweat.

585
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand this ploy Like is David are we

586
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: just seeing him unravel? Like what is happening? Why is

587
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: he starting to pick apart, and obviously we can't see

588
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: everything that goes on on the yacht.

589
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: But he doesn't like Leila.

590
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 3: She's the one that has had the biggest mouth and

591
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: about him, and he just literally knows that Karai is

592
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: like not going to be like an alpha male with him.

593
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: So he's like, yeah, Leila, you suck is essentially because

594
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: she's and we get all the flashbacks.

595
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: Of Leela being like, David, you're a dick. David sent

596
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: your girlfriend overboard? What's wrong with you?

597
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: And Lena is like twenty one years old, she you

598
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And like David's what thirty? So yeah,

599
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: he got talked down to by a much younger than

600
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: him and he didn't like that. And here he is

601
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: trying to like stand on his soapbox. But because that

602
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: was mean to be like kry, you deserve better. It's like, bro,

603
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: you actually should just be silent. You should like to

604
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: be saying anything right now. And again, this is where

605
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: I go back to David just through these last few episodes,

606
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: continues to dig himself into a deeper hole instead of

607
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: turning the boat around and like changing his ways. This

608
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: is real, David, This is I think David really is

609
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: in this moment, like spiteful says things like out of

610
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: anger is what I feel like in probably situations, and

611
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: evades telling the truth when given the opportunity.

612
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that there have been more than one

613
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: opportunity for redemption. Story for David, there has been more

614
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: than one opportunity for redemption. And we hear it's it

615
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: just doesn't happen. It doesn't happen, Heather. Everyone votes the

616
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: five couples. Everyone votes for the five couples that they

617
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: want to stay on board, and then there's a plank ceremony.

618
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: I loved Gabby's look in this. This is the one

619
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: where she was wearing was like off the shoulder and

620
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: it was all sparkles, and then she had her hair

621
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: tied back in a really tight bun. I was just like,

622
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: Gabby has the most milky, beautiful skin. And then just

623
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 3: in the sparkles, I was like, she's so pretty. I

624
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: just think that Goddy's so pretty.

625
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I had the same thoughts as you. We must be

626
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: cut from the same cloth, because when she was standing there,

627
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: I thought, this is the best that she has looked

628
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: the entire show. This is the most gorgeously stunning look

629
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: for her. I was right there with you, and I

630
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: had the same thoughts possible.

631
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Well, we get this plank ceremony started, and Bradley, because

632
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Shade has already left, has nobody, So that means Bradley's

633
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: got to walk the plank and he just gladly just

634
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: box it like there's nothing else to do. And then

635
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: each couple has to walk the plank and either they

636
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: go overboard or they find out if they're going to

637
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: the top side. So first is Tim and Gea top side,

638
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Reese and Sophia overboard.

639
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: Duh, shocker shocker.

640
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: Lexi and James top side, and Keith top side. I

641
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: think everybody was kind of a little surprised by that one.

642
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: Enna and Andrew overboard, Christine and Jake top side.

643
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, interesting choice there.

644
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where it got really interesting. Krai and

645
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: Leela overboard. Now it was we only had Kari, Leela,

646
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: David and val left, and so the second that they

647
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: called Leela and Kry down and David and Vow were

648
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: left to watch. I knew that Leela and Kari were

649
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: going overboard because you would never because we knew it

650
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: had to be one of them. You never have one

651
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: couple stay, you wouldn't have the second to last one

652
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: stay and then be like, Okay, that means you have

653
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: to walk down now and go overboard, like it would

654
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: have spoiled that. So if you're just paying attention to

655
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: those kinds of things, you would know how it's going

656
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: to play out. So Kry and Leela overboard, which means

657
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: David and Val are top side, which everybody is extremely

658
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: shocked by this. In the top side when they are

659
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: assuming that Leela and Carry are going to come and

660
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: they see Val and David turn the corner, So that

661
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: is a little bit of another twist that David has

662
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: nine lives somehow in this.

663
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I expected nothing less. If they sent David and Vale home,

664
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I might have stopped watching the show because at this

665
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: point I'm living for it, you know what I mean.

666
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for my friends Tim and Gia and

667
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: Lexi and James. I'm so happy for my friends, but

668
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: like I am living for what's going to what's going

669
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: to happen between David, Val and Low, the whole saga.

670
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm not done with it. I need more.

671
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: Well, and we're clearly not done because then Gabby says

672
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: that she has a treat for the top five couples

673
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: and that they're going to go off the boat for

674
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: a full day exploring Malta and then a chance to

675
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: explore the relationships because they're going to spend individual one

676
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: on one overnight dates on land. And this is when

677
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: we get to see Keith and Delaney go on a

678
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: little romantic boat rider what should have been romantic that

679
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: they immediately start talking about marital roles and Keith is

680
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: looking for a traditional marriage with a woman that raises

681
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: his children. The Laney is a working model.

682
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: Did you hear him? My skin crawled when I heard

683
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: him say to take care of his children. That rubbed

684
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: me the wrong way on so many levels. He's literally

685
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: looking a woman who is a model, who is a

686
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: working model, who I just the generational roles that he

687
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: laid out right then and there for everyone to hear

688
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: and see.

689
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: I was rubbed the wrong way. Heather for me, you.

690
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: Know, I will stand by that being a mom is

691
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: the hardest job that you'll ever do, even though I'm

692
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: not a mother, But it's the job right that doesn't

693
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: have set hours, it's never and you have to do

694
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: it when you're sick, when you.

695
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: Got a full schedule, whatever you have.

696
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: I think that being a mom is the hardest job ever,

697
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: and I think that stay at home moms, you know,

698
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: are hardworking individuals, and women that are moms that are

699
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: working and raising their children are hardworking individuals. So I

700
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: don't think that there's anything wrong in aspiring to have

701
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: traditional roles in your household if that is what you want.

702
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: What I don't like is when he said things like

703
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: when you're with me, you represent Those kinds of things

704
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: started to rub me the wrong way because because it

705
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: implies that being a model is a poor representation of him,

706
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: and a woman traveling or going to working events alone

707
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: without him is not a positive representation of him. That's

708
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: how it was coming out, because you know, if he

709
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: said more than that, we didn't get to see it, unfortunately,

710
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: so that's kind of all we have to go on.

711
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate him in the sense that he has a

712
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: strong vision of what he wants for himself and his life.

713
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: My only thing that I would say to Keith is

714
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: that having morals and values in common with your partner

715
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: is extremely important. But having a narrow view of what

716
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: your future can look like, I think can be a problem.

717
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: How you make your future with your partner can be

718
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: individualistic to you. And I think that this is where

719
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: his young age really kind of shows through, because if

720
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: you haven't been exposed a lot to women that have,

721
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: you know, huge careers but are still present mothers, or

722
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: women that have jobs where they travel a lot but

723
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: are still able to be present partners for their husbands

724
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: and be supportive, then you don't.

725
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: Know that that exists.

726
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: But you shouldn't be putting people in boxes and really

727
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: should be focusing on I think at this point the

728
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: connection and do I like this person? Am I communicating

729
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: well with this person?

730
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: Is their attraction? Is there?

731
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: You know, a connection on whether it be faith or

732
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: family or whatnot, and then you work those other things

733
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: out the further you get into a relationship.

734
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: I think it's like worderline, crazy to be about. But

735
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: you are we expecting sanity, Heather.

736
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: That you want a woman that like will raise your children,

737
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: That's great, you can aspire to want that. I think

738
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: it's a very strange thing to put on somebody that

739
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: you probably don't know their last name at this point,

740
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: like those are I would have approached that conversation and

741
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: been like, you know, what in my ideal world, I

742
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: would love to have a woman that you know, stays

743
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: home and has you know, full you know, uh rearing

744
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: of our children. That would be my ideal world. But

745
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: you telling me that your career is really important to

746
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: you and fulfills you. I think that's amazing. So maybe

747
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: that's like, you know, something that we put on the

748
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: table now and we talk about further on down in

749
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: our relationship when we see ourselves moving in that direction,

750
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: you know, it's like as much. And I love the

751
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: fact that Delaney thinks and values her career so much.

752
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: I think that's amazing.

753
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: But I think any model will probably tell you that

754
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: they don't model for forever. So that's a job that

755
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: does have a transitional period a lot of time. Now

756
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: are am I not saying that people you know become

757
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: senior citizen models and like do model? Of course they do.

758
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: There is a market for everything. But I think you'd

759
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 3: be hard pressed to find somebody who was a model

760
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: in their twenties all the way through to their sixties

761
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: and seventies. It's not usually that kind of a career

762
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: for most people.

763
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: You said it perfectly the whole time that you were talking.

764
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: I was literally thinking like you're putting so much in

765
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: a box, but the other pieces where you're taking two

766
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: young adults, keep in particular at twenty three years old,

767
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: and asking them to figure out the rest of their lives,

768
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Like there is so much of me that I just

769
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: want to take these people and shake them and be like,

770
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: you have your whole life. You have your whole life.

771
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Your twenties are meant for living. And if she has

772
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: a lucrative modeling career, milk that right now while you can,

773
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: and you figure out the rest. You know, we you

774
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: and I Heather are old enough to know that we

775
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: are not the same person that we were in our twenties,

776
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: and I live mine to the fullest, you know, But

777
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: there is so much of this watching them that you

778
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: just want to be like, oh man, you have your

779
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: whole life to like settle and settle down. Not settle,

780
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: but settle down and live out the rest of your dreams,

781
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: like live right now, live while you can, and not to.

782
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: Be morbid or anything. But like Keith, you work in

783
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: a line an industry that is extremely demanding and also

784
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: is prone to accidents or things to happen. Let's say

785
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: you get injured on the job. Wouldn't you like that

786
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: fact and security of knowing that my wife also makes

787
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: additional income, so you know, I am able to heal

788
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: and do things. And that's part of those valves, right

789
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: that people take when they're married up in sickness and

790
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: in health, Like you are going to have periods in

791
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: your life and your relationship most likely where you are

792
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: sick and your partner has to take on more of

793
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: a load or vice versa. And so that would be

794
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: a nice thing to consider. Or as beautiful as children

795
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: are and wanting to, you know, expand a family, you

796
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: have to take into consideration that not everybody is able

797
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: to actually do that. Not every person is blessed with

798
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: the ability to have children. So then what does that

799
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: situation look like? So I think that it's a wonderful

800
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: thing to daydream and plan and want something for a future.

801
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: But what's the saying we plan and god laughs, I mean,

802
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: it's it's just something to consider. Keif I would not

803
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: be throwing people out of our lives this early on.

804
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: But we see this kind of unravel because Keith has

805
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: such strong convictions, it does start to kind of raise

806
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: some red flags for Delaney, who is in this period

807
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: of her life where her career is growing and she's

808
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: taking advantage of that, and she's enjoying what's happening in

809
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: her life, and she's not necessarily ready to settle down.

810
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I just have one more note, Heather, of something coming

811
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: from a woman who I never wanted to be a

812
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: stay at home mom. I struggled in that moment because

813
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: I never saw Keith ask Delaney what she wanted. It

814
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: was all about what he wanted. You were either going

815
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: to fit what he was looking for, and maybe they

816
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: didn't didn't. We didn't get to see it, but we

817
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: are not shown that. He asks her, what is it

818
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: that you want? Do you even want to be a

819
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: stay at home mom? Do you want to give up

820
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: your career? Would you like to move out to where's

821
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: it from? South Dakota? Where's it from?

822
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: Do you want?

823
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: He lives in a town of two hundred people like

824
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: do you want that? We only hear his wants, and

825
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: sometimes men without that emotional maturity cannot think past what

826
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: it is that they want.

827
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: It might not even be emotional maturity. I mean, it

828
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: might just be that's his value. You know. There there

829
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 3: are certain people out there who think that the man

830
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: is the head of the household and this is how

831
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: it goes.

832
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: And and.

833
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: You and I aren't saying if that's wrong or right.

834
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: We're saying that that's not necessarily the lives for us, but.

835
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: That works for some people.

836
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: And there's part of me that is, like, you know,

837
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he has a vision of what he

838
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: wants and is speaking it. But what I would say

839
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: is Keith not to be so boxed in, because also

840
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: life happens, things change, experiences changes, circumstances change, and you

841
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: have to pivot. And what you really want is a

842
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: partner that is supportive and is able to pivot with

843
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: you in those moments. Life is not black and white,

844
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: and we actually don't know what's going to happen to

845
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: any of us. And we can plan and you know,

846
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: dream as much as we want, but at the end

847
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: of the day, we're not in control of a lot

848
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: of things. And so I just I hope that Keith

849
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: gets what he wants in life, and I hope Delaney

850
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: gets what she wants in life. But it felt like,

851
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: because they're in this very pressure cooker situation, they were

852
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: forced to have these kinds of conversations I think way

853
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: earlier than anybody naturally that had known each other as

854
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: long as they had would be having.

855
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: All right, we move on to Tim and Gia's date.

856
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: These two little kutie pies are in it to win it.

857
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: They're in it for the long haul, and nothing makes

858
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: me happier. They have their tea leaves Red. Have you

859
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: ever done this? Oather Off? Never done this? But listen,

860
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: we see that their tea future says that they will

861
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: have kids. And you know what I love is that

862
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: the two of them, they're on board. We see a

863
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: lot of just like them on the same page. And

864
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: everyone loves a good happy ending. So I'm hook line

865
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: and syncro. I'm down for it.

866
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: David and Val.

867
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: David thinks that he and Val have a good shot

868
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: in the real world. Vow says she trusts David. I

869
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: am very confused by this given the situation. And again

870
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: I from the get we have said there is no

871
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: slut shaming, but you have to take relationships from what

872
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: they are and how their relationships started, and.

873
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: It started in a trauma bond, So that's why she

874
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: trusts him. They started in a trauma bond of the

875
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: entire boats against us so she has nobody else to

876
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: turn to other than the shipwreckord that she came in with,

877
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: which is Christine. She is not fully connected to anybody else,

878
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: so that is why she has built this quote unquote

879
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: trust with David. It's them against the boat.

880
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, here come my little cutie pies, James and Lexi.

881
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't know why I love them. I just theyre

882
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: my I like love them, my little babies. James has

883
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: known Lexi was his person since they met. Lexi says

884
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: she loves him in an interview and then catches herself.

885
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: That was funny. I loved it because you.

886
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: Know how you're just like overwhelmed with feelings sometimes and

887
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: sometimes it slips out, but then you think, oh my

888
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: god immediately, I don't want to be that crazy bitch.

889
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: This is not love like I'm infatuated right now. This

890
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: is obsessive thinking, you know what I mean. But I

891
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: love it because in that moment we saw such a

892
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: normal woman speaking in that interview. I loved it.

893
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: Heather, you know better than anyone being on the other

894
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: side of this experience, how much these producers are grilling you,

895
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: How are you feeling, are you falling?

896
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 4: What's going on? In your head right now? Did it?

897
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: They ask you so many different ways hoping that you

898
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: will have a slip up like she did on camera,

899
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: and yeah, that was absolutely hilarious when her eyes were

900
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: like whoa, that just sounded crazy. Yeah.

901
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: Sorry. Immediately was like slow down, girl, and she catches herself,

902
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: her eyes, every bit of it when she thinks, oh,

903
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: I love I said the OL word. That's not what

904
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean. That's crazy. We're all crazy.

905
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: Everything's crazy, but everybody's feeling the love in this episode,

906
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: it is the word is getting thrown out there.

907
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: A lot, a lot.

908
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

909
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

910
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: So then they go to their hotel rooms and that's

911
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: when Tim tells Gia he's starting to fall in love

912
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: with her, and Gia reciprocates this, and then we see

913
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: James tell Lexi he's in love with her, and she goes,

914
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: I love you too, and it's just like, oh, it's

915
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: so much love.

916
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: It's so much love.

917
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: Love blah blah blah love love love love love love.

918
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: But then everybody is hanging out in their rooms and

919
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: they get knocks on their doors and they go and answer,

920
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: and that's when they're surprised, and Gia is surprised by

921
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: her twin brother, and then val Christine, Delaney, and Lexi

922
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: are all surprised by their best friends, and this is

923
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: very much reminiscent Right of Hometowns or you know, Prime Visit,

924
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: not The Bachelor.

925
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, this feels very Bachelor for me.

926
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: This feels very Bachelor bachelorette. Bring in the family, let

927
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: them girl the person, let them try to tell the

928
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: one this is not whatever.

929
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: It felt very Bachelor for me. They do this on

930
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: Love Island too.

931
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: At the very end, they have them show up to

932
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: the villa as well and surprise them, and then the

933
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: villa they don't they don't know what day it is.

934
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: They've been there for so long at this pointy that

935
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: they are just like completely confused. It's like thirty days

936
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: in And then their family shows up randomly at the villa,

937
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: so everybody's like emotional and excited, and then you know,

938
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: these friends and Gia's brother are really the to kind

939
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: of grill the guys and see how they're feeling, and

940
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: we get Lexi. Her friend is shocked that Lexi and

941
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: James are in love, and James talks to the friend

942
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: about how he kind of loves the way Lexi and

943
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: him have approached conflict so far that they have faced,

944
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 3: and her friend really likes how James talks to Lexi,

945
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: so that's a sweet little moment. Christine's friend calls Jake

946
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: very suave in the way talks, and then she asks him,

947
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: She asks Christine if she's digmatized, which is so funny

948
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: because this is just a very funny term.

949
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: I love that they gave the definition of it. I

950
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: love that Ether. I was so glad that you said that.

951
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: I love it.

952
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: On screen, they literally give the definition, and I just thought,

953
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: for us old ladies, you know what I mean, for

954
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: me to be schooled, that was really great.

955
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's so funny because this is a

956
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: term that I have used many times on dating shows

957
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: when we talk about girls past and you know history,

958
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: and you know, if somebody on this cast was digmatized

959
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: at all thus far, I would say it was low

960
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: first and foremost and absolutely, and then it was Christine

961
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: probably in this situation. So Christine's friend said she wants

962
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: to see more of Jake and thinks he's like a

963
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: bit of a smooth talker, so she kind of you know,

964
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: and also, let's be frank Jake is twenty three years old,

965
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: so her friend's red flags are growing up. VAL's friend

966
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: so VAL's friend and David. David tells the friend that

967
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: he had to make a big decision when choosing Val,

968
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: and David says his last relationship ended.

969
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: With trust issues.

970
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so this goes back to what I said before

971
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: where he kind of glazed over this very quickly and.

972
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 4: Help we get it.

973
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: But he told on himself, and so now we find

974
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: out that he has cheated in a previous relationship, and

975
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: this is like concerning to VAL's friend. We find out

976
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: later it's not concerning de Val because Val has also.

977
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: Cheated in a previous personship. So again it's very.

978
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: Trauma bonding to people kind of mirroring each other in

979
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: this situation, which I personally think too much of the

980
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: same is never a good idea. I think that you

981
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: want to have differences in your relationships and differences in personalities,

982
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 3: which is why I think that like low in Him

983
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: were interesting to look at and watch from Afar because

984
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: they were different. But I think David is used to

985
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: being with people that kind of move through life and

986
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: approach relationships and sexual interactions. Maybe is similar to him,

987
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: and I think that that's why he's drawn initially to.

988
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: Val is because she is moving.

989
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: They're on the same level. You're on the same level.

990
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: She's moving through things the same way as him. Gia's brother,

991
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: who's adorable by the way, I mean those little glasses,

992
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: like he was so cute. He asks Tim uh why

993
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: Tim came uh to find love, and Tim says after

994
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: one conversation with Gia, he knew it was her, and

995
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: the brother continues to grill him with questions, and then

996
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: at the end he tells Gia like he isn't.

997
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: Sure Tim is her.

998
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: Person, but he's like here for it, like if she

999
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: if she's like into it and having fun, then he's

1000
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: like great, Like do you free for all?

1001
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 4: Yeah? Free for all?

1002
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: And then Delaney's friend you know, is talking with Keith

1003
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: and Keith makes a weird sarcastic joke about Delaney not

1004
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: being funny, which doesn't land. It is very awkward, and

1005
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 3: her friend says Keith doesn't look like Delaney's type and

1006
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: she doesn't think a twenty three year old is ready

1007
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: to set down. I'll go against the grain on the

1008
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: ready to settle down thing, just because clearly Keith is

1009
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, very into street and narrow, and so I

1010
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: think that there's plenty of, you know, young people in

1011
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: the South and in different communities that do settle down

1012
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: at a young age and it worked for them. So

1013
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say he's not ready to settle down. But

1014
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: her friend probably knows where her type is, you know,

1015
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: and is being honest with that.

1016
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm wondering though, in this conversation. I loved Delaney's best

1017
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: friend and how she showed up for her friend, But

1018
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: did you notice when she asked Keith, what do you

1019
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: like about her? And he was like, well, she's beautiful.

1020
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: She's not funny, but she's beautiful. Did you notice? I mean,

1021
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I'm just hyper aware because

1022
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: of who I am, But he doesn't say anything about

1023
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: her like core about her as a per Yeah, and

1024
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: not that he would. They've known each other what forty

1025
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: eight hours, but to me that would have been a

1026
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: red flag. She's asking him for honesty, like why he

1027
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: couldn't even even brush the surface and been like, well,

1028
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: she's super kind, she's very intentional, she's you know, even

1029
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: if he needed to just fluff it a little bit.

1030
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: But he doesn't. He doesn't. He talks about her beauty,

1031
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: and she is, she's a model girl, knows she's beautiful,

1032
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: but he doesn't give any other substantial evidence to show

1033
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: that he even knows who this girl is on a

1034
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: deeper level.

1035
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a good point. I'm going to go

1036
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: out on a limb and say that was an editing trick. Okay, personally,

1037
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: because we've seen him being very conversational when it came

1038
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: to his interviews about what he had to say and

1039
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: think about Shade, so I think he's capable of communicating.

1040
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't in that moment, and maybe you're correct,

1041
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: but I feel like the editing was done with them

1042
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: specifically in this episode to really drive home the point

1043
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: that they are not compatible, and they already do that,

1044
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: I think in any way that they can, which means

1045
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: including the weird joke, which means including any moment of

1046
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: tension between them. He is also a man of few words, though,

1047
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: so you could very well be right, But I think

1048
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: the friend said it best in the sense that their

1049
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: lifestyles don't mesh. And you say that like Delaney has

1050
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 3: in the past like dimmed her light essentially in relationships,

1051
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: and like she doesn't want to see her like do

1052
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: that again. So I think the friend is on the money,

1053
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: and I think that that was Those were clearly the

1054
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: little voices in Delaney's head that she was subduing.

1055
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: He was already thinking these things, These were already It

1056
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: wasn't this wasn't a mind blowing moment for her. The

1057
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: stuff was already on the surface for her, exactly.

1058
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 3: And I think, listen, this is this point in these

1059
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: shows is also when it gets tricky. Right do you

1060
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: stay in because you want to win the game or

1061
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: do you stay in because you are interested in what

1062
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: could happen in this relationship? Same thing on Love Island.

1063
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: People sometimes stay together and try to make it work

1064
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 3: towards the end because they still want that chance at

1065
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: the money.

1066
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: Because it is still about winning. Yes, you would hope

1067
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: that you make a connection, but it is about winning,

1068
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: that's really. I think that's where viewers, in particular, if

1069
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: you've never been on a reality show, that's where it

1070
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: gets confused. You you want the real thing, you want

1071
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: the love, right, but ultimately you get to a point

1072
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: where it is about staying. It is about winning the concept.

1073
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: You're not so aware that you need to be able

1074
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: to admit that, but that's ultimately what happens exactly.

1075
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: So we go into our final episode and just to recap,

1076
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: our couples at this point are Lexi and James, Jake

1077
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: and Christine, Tim and Gia, Keith and Delaney and David

1078
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: and Vale. And I just watched this opening scene and

1079
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: I was like, Delaney has the most incredible hair. I

1080
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: feel like I've ever Oh my god, is it not

1081
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: like a thick, gorgeous like horses mane of hair.

1082
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: There was a lot of hair this season, but I

1083
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: most appreciated Delaney's and Enna Anda has the don't know

1084
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: if it's she paid for it, it's extensions, I don't know,

1085
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: but they have the most gorgeous, gorgeous hair.

1086
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: It's just long and beautiful. And I just the scene

1087
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: of freaking Delaney waking up in the morning and like

1088
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: no makeup on and putting on like lotion on her face.

1089
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, this girl's gorgeous. This girlrgeous, wakes up and

1090
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 3: is like a Disney princess. She is so stunning, and

1091
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: she's just gonna be fine.

1092
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: She's gonna be just fine.

1093
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 4: They're all gonna be just fine.

1094
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: It's fine after this show. So Delaney decides to pull

1095
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Keith for a talk before they get back on the yacht,

1096
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: and that's when she says, you know, I don't think

1097
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: that we should move forward with pursuing a relationship. He

1098
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: very much is in agreement at the exact same moment.

1099
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: There's no like they know that the Jacob they're in agreement.

1100
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: But didn't it feel very like high tension? They're in agreement?

1101
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it just felt like high tension

1102
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: to me. I think that nobody wants to be dumped

1103
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 3: on camera, you know what I mean?

1104
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: And have you ever been in those situations?

1105
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean I know, y uh yes, Actually I have

1106
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: been dumped on camera, Heather, did you miss that?

1107
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: I have not been dumped on camera?

1108
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: But what I was gonna say is, have you ever

1109
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: been in those situations where somebody dumped you and you were.

1110
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: Like, gosh, dang it, I was gonna dump you? Like,

1111
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: uh I actually I am thinking of I am thinking

1112
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: of something right.

1113
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: Now from my past where I was literally crying because

1114
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: this guy dumped me before I could dump him.

1115
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: Like I was not sad that it was over. I

1116
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: was literally sad because I was like oh, I wanted

1117
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: to dump him.

1118
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: So I feel like that is the energy I'm getting

1119
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: from Keif in this situation is like this dude was

1120
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: also probably talking to they were both probably talking to

1121
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: their own individual producers, and he's like, I'm gonna dump her,

1122
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: and she was like I'm gonna dump him, and then

1123
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: they let her talk first, and he was probably just.

1124
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: Like no me first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see

1125
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: it all right. Head of the burn Box. We see

1126
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: the segment about the burn Box. I uh, they'll write

1127
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: down their deepest and darkest secrets and thoughts about the

1128
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: other couples.

1129
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 4: I don't know Heather and this was excessive, this wasssive and.

1130
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: Then it's like then we're gonna go cast another vote,

1131
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: and it's just like okay, let's just like get to it.

1132
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: So it's just like the couples just saying mean spirited things.

1133
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: And then there's only four couples at this point, so

1134
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: everybody knows who's writing about who. Like this is something

1135
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: that you do early on.

1136
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, because you don't really you see people fighting

1137
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: with David the whole time because of what he's done,

1138
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: but you don't see the any kind of arguments with

1139
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: with the other couples. They're all friends, so it felt

1140
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: really unnecessary.

1141
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: Exactly, But it's like this, we see this kind of

1142
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: game or element play out on other shows, but you

1143
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: do it earlier on when there's more people still on,

1144
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: so you don't know who wrote what, and it's a

1145
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: little bit more confusing. This was very blatant. Who was

1146
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 3: writing about whom? Like, you know, these couples are an

1147
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: alliance on two and two like basically the whole time.

1148
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: So someone wrote on that David will ghost vowel as

1149
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: soon as they get off the yacht.

1150
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: I mean they're not far off favorably correct.

1151
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: That's probably right.

1152
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Gia's not going to take it to the next level

1153
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: with Tim physically. I think that's like a stretch. I

1154
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: think these two have shown that they are attracting incredibly

1155
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: mature and fine, and I think that again, it's like,

1156
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: you can be sexually free and be giving BJ's five

1157
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: minutes after you meet somebody in the shower on camera.

1158
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 4: That is your prerogative.

1159
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: Somebody choosing to wait until something is special or something

1160
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: has been discussed a little bit more in length should

1161
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: not be weaponized against them by any means. Just like

1162
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: we don't weaponize the opposite to somebody because they're more

1163
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: free spirited.

1164
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: So I didn't really like that comment.

1165
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: I didn't like that part either. It's also the part

1166
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: of the culture that we live in too, you know

1167
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. Oh you don't drink? Why, what's wrong

1168
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: with you? Oh you're not doing you're not doing sexual activity?

1169
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?

1170
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a culture on these shows, right,

1171
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: especially where everybody's rocking the boat except for this one couple,

1172
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: and it's like, that's not how everybody, a majority of

1173
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: people I think, moved through life. So anyways, it's just

1174
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: it was excessive. And then one says, you were just

1175
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: supposed to be a shipwrecker, not a home wrecker. Let's

1176
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: get over it, guys. Okay, we're over it. They weren't married,

1177
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: Jake and Christine is just lust Okay, I mean sure,

1178
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: it is okay that great Lexi and James are not

1179
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: compatible outside the boat. It's a stretch. It's a stretch.

1180
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: These two see clearly are into each other. They're young.

1181
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I think is like the

1182
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: biggest flaw in what could happen. It's just like they're

1183
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 3: Young and then against David. It says, once a cheater,

1184
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: always a cheater, David, you haven't done anything to like

1185
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: really help yourself out in this whole situation. So everybody

1186
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: votes who should go home. Tim and Gea they both

1187
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: vote for Jake and Christine. David and Val they both

1188
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: vote for Tim and Gea. Val follows his choice. Jake

1189
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: and Lexi. They both vote for Jake and Christine. And

1190
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 3: then we could be at a tie, which Gabby said,

1191
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: we can't have a tie, and so Jake and Christine

1192
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: decide to vote themselves to leave.

1193
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: I love that they did this. I mean, I wasn't

1194
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: super connected to Jake this whole time anyway.

1195
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1196
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: But I love that he was just like, I'm just

1197
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: going to take one for the team. I'm going to

1198
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: ride off to the sunset. For whatever reason, either he's

1199
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: over Christine and he's ready to move on, or he

1200
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: just is like, we don't stand a chance. I just

1201
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: love that they did this, and they didn't make it

1202
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: a whole situation. They were just like, we're going to

1203
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: see ourselves out. It was fun, we had a good time. Goodbye,

1204
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: it was just annoying.

1205
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: So then we have our last day on the yacht,

1206
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: and Gia is still irritated, but by what David said

1207
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: the night before about her not having sex with Tim

1208
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: and Lexi doesn't support David.

1209
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 4: Or Val anymore. And you know, Val.

1210
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: Is telling David that he's the only one who could

1211
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: take down her walls, and they get like emotional and

1212
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: talk about this, and then Gabby asks the couples to

1213
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: come to the sun Deck final vote. All the castaways

1214
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: return to determine who the winning couple is. So this

1215
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: is very Survivor esque. You have everybody from the show

1216
01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: come back.

1217
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: But not everybody. Our girl Bella was not there. Did

1218
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: you notice that I was looking for our girl Heather

1219
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: and she was not there. She was noticeably missing, and

1220
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: I was so very sad. Where was my girl?

1221
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: Did I miss that?

1222
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: I missed it? I looked for her in the pants.

1223
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: They did the panning very quickly with all of the contestants,

1224
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: and I was looking for my girl Bella because I

1225
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: just needed a little bit more of her. But she

1226
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: was not there.

1227
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 4: Bella, DMUs why weren't you there? What happened? This is crazy?

1228
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: You actually, Oh, she wasn't at the ex.

1229
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: She wasn't party. She was missing from the time she

1230
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: left the boat. She was gone, Bella.

1231
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: She must have really been struggling and was like, I

1232
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 3: go home.

1233
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 4: Hm, wow, Bella, we just noticed that. I just noticed that. Wow. Interesting.

1234
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So Lexi and James. James calls Lexi the love

1235
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: of his life.

1236
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: I love them.

1237
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: I love them, Heather, I love them.

1238
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 4: And I love that.

1239
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: Lexi reminds everybody she's like my men man went to

1240
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: the downside, and I followed him because I like him

1241
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: that much.

1242
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: So that's a good point. Tim and Gia.

1243
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: Gia says that she's falling in love with Tim, and

1244
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: Tim says he wasn't expecting to fall in love, but

1245
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: being vulnerable has been hard for him, and now he

1246
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: gets to show his soft side with Gia, and he

1247
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: loves her. David and Val. Val says she was attracted

1248
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: to him from the start, and that we know that

1249
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: David provides her passion and security, and that Val says

1250
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: she's in love with him.

1251
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: This is actually shocking to everybody.

1252
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: That is everyone. They've been there two weeks. We've heard

1253
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: the timeline. They've been there two weeks. All they've really

1254
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: experienced is his situation with low.

1255
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Lo chooses this time to interrupt, and

1256
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: she asks to read a little speech she's written. Low,

1257
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you your snaps on this because you

1258
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: start out first by apologizing to Val and misappropriating your anger.

1259
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 4: So great job.

1260
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 3: That is a really good sign of growth and reflection.

1261
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: She calls out David for flipping so quick and not

1262
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 3: coming clean to her when he had the chance. Again, David,

1263
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: he apologizes to Low, but the castaways like, really don't

1264
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: think it's that great of an apology, and then he

1265
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 3: starts to tell Val how he feels, and he just

1266
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: goes get and just stops talking.

1267
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: It is this moment for me that my heart actually

1268
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: breaks for Val. She is given, i mean, a less

1269
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: than stellar opportunity on this show, not that he needed

1270
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: to confess his undenying love for her, but just that like,

1271
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: she doesn't get what she deserves. It is it's all

1272
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: about the situation and how David acted and how he

1273
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: was wrong, and that is played over and he does

1274
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: no part in taking accountability or even at any point

1275
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: turning and looking and going I'm sorry, even if he

1276
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: doesn't want to take accountability for just like being like

1277
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That you are having to do this right now.

1278
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that this is taking away from you. I

1279
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: don't know I needed more from him.

1280
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the thing, like it can't will

1281
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: somebody to change, they have to do it on their own.

1282
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,480
Speaker 3: And I think that this is a really good example

1283
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: of somebody that is just right now set in their

1284
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 3: ways and not willing to take accountability. And again, I

1285
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 3: hope that this experience is kind of a mirror for David, because,

1286
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 3: like I said previously, this is.

1287
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 4: Going to follow him for a really long time.

1288
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: So the Astaways vote for the couple they think will last,

1289
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: and two couples will be going overboard tonight. So we

1290
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: have our final plank ceremony and Gabby says the men

1291
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: will be representing the couples for this. So first up

1292
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: as David and James. David chooses at this time to

1293
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: tell the group why he likes Val and she makes

1294
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: him feel safe, is what he says. And so James

1295
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: and Lexi end up going overboard, which is shocking. I

1296
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: know they were your favorites. James gets dumped and as

1297
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: soon as he does, Lexi goes and dives in after

1298
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 3: him and says, my man dad and.

1299
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Speaker 2: So at the moment I needed the entire show, Heather, Yeah, okay,

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: so you know I'm all for James and Lexi, and

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: I was so sad because I really had them pegged

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01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: to win. I thought about texting you in that moment,

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: but I was like, I'm gonna save it and save

1304
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: it for our episode. Yeah, I had them pegged to

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: win the show. So I am very, very sad for

1306
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: multiple reasons, mostly because I'm wrong, but also I think

1307
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: they're so cute and I think they can have somewhat

1308
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: of a lasting relationship for their age. I think they're

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01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: really into each other. But the moment that Lexi is like, no,

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm going after my man and she jumps in, I

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: needed that the entire season.

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01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: I needed that.

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: So I felt fulfilled in that moment that we get

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01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: this like heroin moment where she jumps overboard and her

1315
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: hair and her lashes are all wet and she swims

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01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: to the raft for her man, And that's what I

1317
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: needed the entire episode, the entire season.

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01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: I think it was shocking because again that means David

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 3: is staying for the next round where he goes up

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,879
Speaker 3: against Tim. And this is finally where Tim and Gia

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: win meaning David goes overboard and they are are winning couple.

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: They embrace, they are so excited. We see them sail

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: off into the sunset together.

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Speaker 4: It's cute.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was not disappointed. I do we know

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01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: how long they're going to last. Obviously we don't know,

1327
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: but the fact that they do live in the same

1328
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: city I think is a very good thing for them

1329
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: to try and build their relationship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to bring it back to the interview

1331
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: that you saw on social media that People Magazine posted

1332
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: of him. Oh yeah, and he is talking and he

1333
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: literally says, you know, They're like, what's your status?

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Speaker 4: Where are you?

1335
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: Guys say, oh, I have to wait and see him,

1336
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: Like we've already seen it, bro, just tell us what's

1337
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: going on. And then at the end, he very coly

1338
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: is coyly, is like, well she lives right down the street. Yeah,

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01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, okay, but I need a reunion Heather.

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01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: I love the idea of a reunion for this show.

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: I will say that I did some social poking. Looks

1342
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: like Tim posted a video from him and Gea during

1343
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 3: Halloween s up together, and then I did a little poking,

1344
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: and Val wrote this whole long post saying, I know

1345
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: everybody wants to know the outcome after the show. I'll

1346
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: share my thoughts when I'm ready. Her and David are

1347
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: not following each other on social media, so I can't

1348
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: imagine that it was good.

1349
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 4: But David has.

1350
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: Not only posted pictures of him in low kissing embracing,

1351
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 3: He's also posted pictures of him and Val. So David

1352
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 3: is acting like this was an experience and you know

1353
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: he's posting things from it. But yeah, I would bet

1354
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,480
Speaker 3: that they are not together anymore.

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01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't even in a relationship with David, and I

1356
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: am confused.

1357
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: I just think that David.

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01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he ghosted her, but I'm sure he

1359
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: said something like I need to get back to reality.

1360
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: I need to figure things out.

1361
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: You need to focus on me right now, focus on.

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: Me and ended things with her. I'm interested to see,

1363
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: like you, if Tim and Gia are still together. I

1364
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 3: feel like it's a little questionable too. About Lexi and James.

1365
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 2: I haven't seen. James is very active on his social media.

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: He's very active in posting. He's been answering some fan

1367
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 2: questions and stuff like that. I don't get as much

1368
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: from her, so I am really interested. I've had to

1369
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: refrain because I want to get to the end of

1370
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: the show before I start dming all of my friends

1371
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: to find out what's going on in their lives. I'm like,

1372
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: I'll just inch into the crazy lady position first, but

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm really curious. I hope that they give us a

1374
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: reunion show. I would really like that some sort, even

1375
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: if it's just like online. I would really like a

1376
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: reunion show. And if they're not together, like I need

1377
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 2: it for my own sanity.

1378
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 3: We'll keep you guys posted if we see a reunion,

1379
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: obviously we will recap it. But this has been such

1380
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: a fun journey. Deanna, thanks so much for letting me

1381
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 3: come on and co host these episodes with you about

1382
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: our favorite new show, and hopefully we get some answers

1383
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: on what happened with Bella what's going on with her?

1384
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: But I'm stay in tune for a season two because

1385
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 3: this was such a fun show to watch and I

1386
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: hope that everybody has enjoyed listening to these recaps. Tell

1387
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: us who were you hoping to win this show and

1388
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 3: what did you think of the outcome? But until I

1389
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: guess we have a reunion or another show to recap.

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: That's all for us, Thanks.

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: Dianna, Heather. What am I supposed to do with all

1392
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: my free time now?

1393
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 3: Follow them on Instagram and obsess over them in real

1394
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 3: life exactly exactly until our next show that we have

1395
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: to recap where people are kind of famous. We'll have

1396
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 3: to figure out what that next show is.

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 2: Until our next reality show. I've been Deanna, I've been Heather.

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 4: Bye.

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