1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: straight Fire Fan? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday, 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: February eight, super Bowl week, just motoring along. Oh my goodness, 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: do we have a good pod today for you the athletics. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Mike Sando stops by to break down. Listen, this is 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: a little in the weeds here. If you're a hardcore 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: football fan, extras and oh's, you're gonna love this. We 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: break it all down for you. I'm miss spoiler alert. 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: He's another guy who likes the Chiefs. I like the Niners. 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: We've been there. Anyways, You're gonna love this podcast with Mike. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: A lot of granular detail that you know. Listen. I 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: know you go to a Super Bowl party, maybe you'll 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: be Super Bowl party hopping, and you want to go 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: there and you're watching the game and there's people eating 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: and you're talking. You're friends you haven't seen, and you're 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: chase send your kids around, and you want to be 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: able to lock in. There's some stuff that Sando talks 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: about to look for specifically on both sides of the 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: football and listen. Live betting is your friend? Remember Chiefs 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: went down what was it twenty four fourteen last year 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: to the Eagles in the Super Bowl, and you could 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: ask you, I've bet the Chiefs to come back and 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: win Patrick Malmes. That's what he does now. The script 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: has been a little bit flipped in this postseason for them, 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: as they have been jumping out to early leads and 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: then staving off the opponent by choking them out with 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: the defense, whereas the forty nine ers have been the 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: comeback kids. We'll see what happens. Obviously, I do want 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: to quickly just point out, and I've mentioned this before, 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: the one thing I like about the football season dwindling 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: down to the end is the ability to actually watch 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: TV shows. Like I'm not even making this up. When 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: the season is going, I'm not able to stream some 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: of these shows, and I'm not trying to act like 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: one of these guys who's just like, oh yeah, blah 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: blah blah. I'm able to half ask it. And then 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: also I'm watching all these shows, and like, listen, man, 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I got a wife and kids. It's just it's not 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: possible to keep everyone happy and watch streaming shows. So 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm catching up on all my shows. This is what 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: I've watched almost binge in the last two weeks because like, yeah, 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm watching the college basketball. Yeah I'm watching an NBA, 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: but I'm not having to dig deep for NFL stuff 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: all the time and be up to speed on fourteen 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: games every week. Sorry, fifteen or sixteen. I guess the 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Thursday night game you moule out and then there's bies whatever. 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Here are the shows 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: I've checked out. Reacher two, obviously, I wipe that out 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: early in the playoffs. Amazing must Sy. I just finished 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Echo on Disney. It can be polarizing. I do like 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: superhero stuff, so I was into it only five episodes. 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: The one drawback is you can't totally do other stuff 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: because there is a lot of sign language as the superhero, 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: as the hero is deaf. But again, it's like a 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: good show. It's not bad. Listen, it's three o'clock in 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: the afternoon and you home from work and it's quiet, 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: fire up, lay down. Yeah, I like it. We just 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: started ex Pats on Amazon with Nicole Kidman. I will 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: preface this, it is a little depressing. I tried to 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: tap out twice the white It's like, let's just keep 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: watching it's not. I'm just it's a little I'm not 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: gonna go spoilers. Nicole Kidman's and she is phenomenal. It's good, 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: but I just, you know, I like positive stuff, guys. 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I like, you know, I don't want to 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: sound like an idiot, but like, give me fighting, right, 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: give me killing. 68 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: You know. 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: The Reacher stuff obviously is fun, but I also like, yeah, listen, 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie on. I like the hot chicks 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: in some of these streaming shows. It's fun. Why do 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: I want it to watch depressing stuff. I'm just keeping 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: a real folks. And then also True Detective, which is 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: on HBO, and it's a little slow at times. It 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: is a little mysterious, which I like. I think there's 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: a lot of potential here. The only problem is they're 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: only doing one a week or whatever. Maybe they released 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: two at the beginning and now one a week. I 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: do like it. I'm into it, and I did. This 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: is the real sign that I'm into a show. They 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: released one a week and then it's like Thursday, and 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: you're like, oh man, it sucks. We gotta wait like 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: three more days for the next episode. That's how you know, 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: you're like kind of into a show. I watched Librea. 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys are familiar with it. 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: It's a regular show on NBC. Yes, I know what 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: am I doing. I'm an idiot. I still have Cable. 88 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I like Lebrea again, futuristic science fiction time travel stuff. 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: That is. 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: It's getting a little off the rails here, but I 91 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: still like it. I'm into it. And finally, I just 92 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: started Equalizer three with Denzel Washington. Now I will leave 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: you with the hot take before I get to Mike Sando. Okay, 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: I believe the Equalizer series starring Denzel Washington is better 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: than the john Wick series with Keanu Reeves. Now, I 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: know a lot of people sweat the john Wick series, 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: and it's fine. My brother's a huge fan. I've seen 98 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: the john Wick series, not all of them. I watched 99 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: the first. So I think the reason john Wick is 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: considered better air quotes than Equalizer is because john Wick 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: came first. It came out just a little before Equalizer, right, 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: so your first to market, you know, Uber versus Lyft, 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And I just thought Equalizer was superior 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: in every way. And I just started Equalizer three. I 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: did not watch John Wick three, four or five. I 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: don't even know what numbers on. I saw one, I 107 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: was like, it's good, it's fine. And then I watched 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: two and I was like, this is like the exact 109 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: same thing. And I know, I just said I like 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: killing and fighting and all that fun stuff, and John 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: john Wick does that. I just feel like it's the 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: exact same thing, don't. I'm not as bought into Keanu 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: Reeves as I am Denzel Washington. Apologies to the John 114 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: Wick fan boys out there. Anyways, Without further ado, let's 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: get to our guest, Mike Sando of The Athletic, looking 116 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: for a super offer for Super Bowl fifty eight. DraftKings 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: Sportsbook has you covered. New customers can bet on the 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: big Game and turn five bucks into two hundred instantly 119 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: and bonus bets. The line opened with San Francisco as 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: a short favorite in the rematch from the twenty twenty 121 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 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A guy who 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: covers the NFL for The Athletic, he's covered him for 145 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: a while and he wrote an awesome piece about building teams. 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: You know, we love that stuff here on Straight Fire. 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: Mike Sando from the Athletic. Mike, how are you, man? 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, great to have you back on. And this 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: piece you have on how the teams were built, I'm 151 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: fascinated by this. You know, we we invested in a 152 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 2: soccer team and a basketball team, and just the team 153 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: building aspect is fun. Can't imagine what it's like in 154 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: the NFL, you know, the most populous board in America, 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: and it seems like the Chiefs did just such a 156 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: tremendous job, whereas the Niners got Is it safe to 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: say they got a little lucky? People forget like that 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: trade Lance trade was massive, and brock Perty kind of 159 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: saved Shanahan and John Lynch with his play, No he did. 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: I think you also have to give Shanahan credit because 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, almost every quarterback that's played for him has 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: played better for him than people thought they would. One 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: of the things I researched for, actually, a piece that 164 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: came out maybe a week or two ago, was I 165 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: just looked at Shanahan's had basically thirteen starting quarterback since 166 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: he's been calling play since two thousand and eight, and 167 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: meaning they started at least ten games in a year, 168 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: and eight of them, like sixty percent averaged eight yards 169 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: per attempt or more, which is good above the league 170 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: average and the rest of the leagues at fifteen percent. 171 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: So if you're with Shanahan, you're four times as likely 172 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: to average that much per attempt, a nice kind of barometers. 173 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: So he gets credit because I think Rock Purdy, had 174 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: he gone to you know, another team could have washed 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: out right, he wouldn't be looking this good. So it 176 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: definitely Purty is saving them because he's really great for 177 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: the system. But I think you do have to give 178 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: them some credit. I wouldn't say it's fortunate, but not 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: totally lucky, because of Shanahan's track record of getting the 180 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: most out of the guys he has, whether that's Jimmy 181 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: G or you know, Matt Schob Matt. 182 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: So it's interesting that you bring up Jimmy G. Everybody says, well, oh, 183 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Rock Purty's not that great, he shouldn't be an MVP. 184 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: This is Jimmy G all over again. But then Mike, 185 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: you look at Brock Purdy's stats this year, whether it's 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: EPA yards per attempt quarterback rate, whatever it is, and 187 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: they were top five in the league. Jimmy g was 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: barely barely top ten. He was driving me, Oh yeah, 189 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: it's not even close. I'm just curious, would you say, 190 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying he's as good as Matt Ryan 191 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: was with the Falcons and Genahan, but that this is 192 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: the best any quarterback Shanahan's had his. 193 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: Plate, I would say Matt Ryan had. I think that's fine. 194 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: I should stack those two. I still think Matt Ryan's 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: was probably a little more dynamic in twenty sixteen. I 196 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: would think that Matt Ryan was probably more experienced a 197 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: little better and just pure drop back pass meaning you know, 198 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: we have to throw the ball. I would say that probably. 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: But the fact that we aren't sure off the top 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: of our heads, it tells you what kind of the 201 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: season Bruckberty's having really good, because that season for Matt 202 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Ryan was, you know, it was a great year, super 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: productive year. Another example of shanahanging the most out of 204 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: quarterbacks was good but not really great. Played the Hall 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: of Fame or for Kyle. 206 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now he did have Julio Jones. I like you 207 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: a lot. I love Deebo Samuel who probably Julio Jones is. 208 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's Hall of Fame material, so you could. 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: And they were playing in a dome and what I 210 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: considered to be a pretty bad division. So everything set 211 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: up and mat Ryan did win the MVP. I don't know, 212 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I guess I'm just trying to wonder. Do 213 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: you think a lot of the stigma about against Purdy 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: is simply because he was the dead last pick in 215 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: the draft? 216 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a component. And then the fact that, 217 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: like you said, Shanahan got a lot of Jimmy G 218 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: that went to the super Bowl with Jimmy G. So 219 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: if people want to push that narrative, they can say, 220 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: let's just say the Chiefs win the super Bowl. It's 221 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: going to be real easy for people to kind of 222 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: fall back on their prior right and say, yeah, see, 223 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: just like Jimmy G, he got him only so far. 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: When Okay, I mean that's we can't argue that if 225 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: that's tough far they got. But I think you have 226 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: to be able to look at the two players and say, okay, 227 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: here's the difference. Rock Purdy is a quicker decision maker. 228 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: He's a super fast processor. He gets the ball out 229 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: with greater anticipation more consistently than Jimmy Garoppolo did. I 230 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: think he also is probably a little bit better of 231 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: a scrambler and mover and able to run around. Now. 232 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: When he runs, sometimes he doesn't throw it great, but 233 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: sometimes he does. He makes some plays off schedule that 234 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't think. I feel as comfortable with having Jimmy 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: G do too. So I think he's better whether or not. 236 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, the results the same. You can't. You can't 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: control that a lot of great players have lost in 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Game. It doesn't mean if Dan Rayna 239 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: lost in the Super Bowl Game, is he the same 240 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: as did he get him? Just as far as Jimmy G. 241 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: There's no comparison between the players, right, I mean, we 242 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: have to go to see the difference. 243 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: So this is where it gets interesting. A couple of 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: minutes ago, you said, you know, if Brock Purty went 245 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: somewhere else, he might have washed out a seventh round pick. Sure, possibly. 246 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: I just this is gonna be tough, and a lot 247 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: of people are just not gonna like that. I asked this, 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: but I'll just I'll just put it out there. Let's 249 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: say Patrick Mahomes goes to the Detroit Lions in the draft. 250 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: M what do you think Patrick Mahomes is today? 251 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Mike? 252 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: It's an impossible question to know. But if we can 253 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: say Brock Purty might have washed out as a seventh 254 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: round pick with wherever you want to go, Seattle, you know, 255 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in Detroit or Patrick Mahomes in Tennessee or 256 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: something like, I would say better than fifty percent chance 257 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: he ain't close to what. 258 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: He is now. I agree with that, and especially the 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: team's success part of it, you know, just being in 260 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: one place with a with a great head coach and 261 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: getting a chance behind Alex Smith for a season. I 262 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: do think his talent, you know, and it seems like 263 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: he's got a good, you know, drive to him, probably 264 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: would have carried him far. But but there's no doubt 265 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: he walked into a great situation and made the most 266 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. 267 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you get to sit for a year behind 268 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: a former number one pick and Alex Smith, and you 269 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: get an all time coach in Andy Reid, who you know, 270 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: you could argue he's probably on the mount Rushmore of 271 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: NFL coaches, or he's certainly in the discussion for the 272 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: four spot, like that is a home run. I mean, 273 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: we look at Trevor Lawrence, Mike, you study quarterbacks a lot, 274 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: like we all thought Trevor Lawrence was gonna be the 275 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: man coming out and that was kind of I mean, 276 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: got kind of unlucky if you will, with Urban Meyer. 277 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: And then you know with Doug Peterson. They go to 278 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: the playoffs and they have a comeback win that they 279 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: probably should not have won against Brandon Staley, and now 280 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: they missed the playoffs, and it's like, I don't know, 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: what is Trevor Lawrence going to get to a super 282 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: Bowl his career? 283 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I agree, but if he had come 284 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: to Andy Reid, you'd think they'd be doing better, right 285 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: and pushing deeper in the playoffs and people be saying 286 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: better things about him. I almost guarantee that's true. I 287 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: feel like for the same thing i'd be said about Kyle. 288 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: Look at Jonathan McNabb by far his best with Andy Reid, 289 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, basically washed out at the end after that, right, 290 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: You'd say Alex Smith for sure had some success with 291 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Jim Horrabob, but really more consistent longer term success with 292 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and now Mahomes as well. So that's one 293 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: of the things I pointed out. Andy Reid's winning rate 294 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: win percentage with Alex Smith was better than the career 295 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: records for Bill Belichick, Tom Landry. But grant jokey, it's 296 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, you know. I mean they won a lot. 297 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: You know that they didn't make the championship success because 298 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to do the different quarterbacks than the quarterbacks 299 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: those guys had, But it's pretty amazing. 300 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it makes it so tough. And listen, 301 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: the Tom Brady thing stands out. I know he's the 302 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: goat and he's got the most Super Bowls and Mahomes 303 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: probably won't catch him. But this idea that Brady didn't 304 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: get kind of sort of lucky. I think he was 305 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: seventh on the Michigan depth chart when he got there 306 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: and then falls to the sixth round. If Drew Bludsoe 307 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: doesn't get hurt, I don't. I mean, it's one of 308 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: those moments like I don't know what happens to Tom Brady. 309 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you he's not winning seven Super Bowls. 310 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: True because there was no right. 311 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they would have got to the end of 312 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Drew Bludsoe's contract, you know, whenever that was, and made 313 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: a decision then based on what they'd seen, But they 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: could have also re signed them. So it is hard 315 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: to know. I mean, I think a lot of things 316 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: like that are unanswerable and the situations be matter. Any 317 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: quarterback will tell you if they're honest where you go 318 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: in a huge part of the success. 319 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: Let's get to something kind of answerable. So what we've 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: seen in the playoffs true or false. The Chiefs have 321 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: gotten really good stuff off the script, grabbed an early 322 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: lead and then just squeezed the opponent to death with 323 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: the defense. Patrick Mahomes has been lights out in the 324 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: first half. Second half. They didn't do much against the Ravens, 325 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: don't know, no points. I think like five first downs 326 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: or something. They did enough against the Bills and Miami. 327 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: You know, negative thirty degrees is out the window. I 328 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: wonder do you think Steve wilk sees this and says 329 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: we need to throw a wrinkle at Mahomes so they 330 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: don't go out and grab a seven nothing lead on 331 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: the first round. We can't fall behind the way we 332 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: did against the Packers and the Lions. 333 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it is now the time to 334 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: come up with some kind of wrinkle. I think they 335 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: straight on the fundamentals on defense. In the last few 336 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: games here, they've been a little shaky. I don't think 337 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: they're playing good enough on defense, so that's a tough 338 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: thing for them to do. They're not really a team 339 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: that has a bunch of answers for everything right with 340 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: their schemes, so I'm a little concerned for their defense 341 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: and where they're at. I think I think it's if 342 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: they win or win this game, they're going to get 343 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: right on that side as the wall, and I don't 344 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: know how many answers they have. 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: That's not great. I do wonder we looked into like 346 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: how the Chiefs run the football, and it's a lot 347 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: more up the middle, inside runs, whereas the zone runs 348 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: had given the forty nine Ers problems in the last 349 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: two rounds, especially the Lions, and then Aaron Jones broke 350 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: off that huge one. I mean, he didn't have an 351 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: amazing game, but he did have one big, big run. 352 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: Do you think Pacheco will be a problem for the 353 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers or is the scheme a 354 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: better matchup for Armstead and what Sanfrayan has in the middle. 355 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the scheme could be better for them. It could 356 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: with the strength in the middle of their defense. But 357 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: I still think Pacheco is just good enough to do enough. 358 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: You don't need dynamic rushing when you've got Patrick Mahomes. 359 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: You just need some right. Just give Mahomes some plays off, 360 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: give Mahomes a chance and not have to be burning 361 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: at the red line every single play, carrying it the 362 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: whole game. I think that's what Pacheco does, and then 363 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: if they get a lead, you know, they can lean 364 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: into that a little bit more. I think it's a 365 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: nice kind of underrated component for them. Defense playing great, 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: You've still got my Homes. I mean, it's really a 367 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: dream scenario for me if I'm the Chiefs. 368 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: One thing that's changed for the Chiefs, Mike, is this 369 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: whole drop passes. They led the league in drops famously, 370 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: and then for whatever reason, you get to the playoffs 371 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: and everything is being caught. Rashi Rice, by the way, 372 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: it looks like led the Chiefs and drops. I believe 373 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: he's been clean in the postseason. Travis Kelsey was second 374 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: he's been clean, Kadarius Tony relegated to the bench, Justin Watson, 375 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if he even had a target in 376 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens game. And then you have Nkole Hartman, who's 377 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: been a bit of a disaster MVS who's cleaned it up. 378 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: What's the big difference other than they're not dropping passes anymore. 379 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: I think they're a team. There's two components. One, I 380 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: think Rashie Rice has developed as a young player, so 381 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: he's probably just gotten better as a player and that's 382 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: part of it, and that's helped the whole offense. But 383 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I think this is a team that's been to the 384 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: mountaintop multiple times and it's hard to maintain that. You know, 385 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: to be sort of up and at your absolute best 386 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: for the tune up fights right kind of the not 387 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: the biggest games. I think there's clearly been another level 388 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: of focus for Mahomes and Kelsey down the stretch when 389 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: it's mattered the most that probably the rest of the 390 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: team is picked up on. And I didn't know they 391 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: were going to be able to do that. It really 392 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: just weren't sure during the season because it just looked 393 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: like those guys were dropping so many passes. But I 394 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: think the best players seem to have really stepped up 395 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: in the details of their games and it's been really 396 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: great for them. Maybe there's a little bit of a 397 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: breakthrough to just confidence wise. They've endured the worst MBS 398 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: has been kind of written off and the expectations for 399 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: them got low. So now you're succeeding when no one's 400 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: expecting you to. Maybe that's easier. 401 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: This is kind of a difficult question, but based on 402 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: what you said about the Chiefs say they've been here before, 403 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: is who has more pressure in this game? Rock Purty 404 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: who's ever been here and the Niners or the Chiefs 405 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: who have been here seemingly every year for the last 406 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: six years. 407 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's on the forty nine ers more. 408 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: They're favored in the game. They've had another chance to 409 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: be here in twenty nineteen. They haven't broken through their 410 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: second I think to the Chiefs and wins over the 411 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: last three season. But ultimately at this stage they've risen 412 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: to a level war you're really measured by whether you 413 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: win a championship, and they haven't been able to do that. 414 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: So if they miss this opportunity, how many more are 415 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: they going to get right to do it. So I 416 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's a huge opportunity for them, whereas the Chiefs, 417 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, they've got their championships and it would suck 418 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: for them to lose, but they still go home and 419 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: see those trophies in the Lombardy case. 420 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: In the lobby, you let me go back to Steve 421 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: Wooks for a sec because he's been kind of a 422 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: fall guy for the Niners as his defense has been 423 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: quite bad. I do wonder do they have the horses 424 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: to match up with Rice and Kelsey. We know the 425 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: linebackers are good, but I mean, Mike, all I heard was, oh, 426 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: Roquan Smith, he's great, Patrick Queen's got better, and Kyle 427 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Hamilton you can't throw on him and Kelsey ate him 428 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: up in the first half. Do the Niners match up 429 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: well with Rice and then Kelsey? 430 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think they do. And 431 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: the hard part about it too is even if you 432 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: do match up well, then Mahomes moves around and buys 433 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: three extra seconds and suddenly you don't match up well 434 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: right because he finds the guy who's uncovered in this 435 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Kelsey sitting there in the zone. So no, I don't 436 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: think they have probably as good an answer as you 437 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: think the rates. 438 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: Regarding Mahomes, though, I've taken a lot of heat for 439 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: simply pointing this out. This is just factual. Mike Patrick 440 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: Mahomes had the worst season of his career. I mean, 441 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: go up and down anything, EPA, yards per temp, whatever 442 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: you want to say. It was the worst season of 443 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: his career. Right, It's not a knock, it's just a fact. 444 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: And then you get to the postseason and he's playing 445 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: like air or free football. This is the toughest part 446 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: about handicapping this game. Do you put more stock in 447 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: the three game playoff sample size where he's been lights 448 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: out or the seventeen game sample size where he was 449 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: not the Patrick Mahomes you expect. How do you handle that? 450 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: I definitely because of the credibility of what he's established 451 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: over time over five, six, seven years, I definitely read 452 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: into the last few games. I think that's how you 453 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: have to evaluate this team. And I was looking at 454 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: this going into the playoffs. They did this a little 455 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: bit before, a couple of years ago. I think it 456 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: was I think they still had Tyreek then, but they 457 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: had a year where, remember everyone kind of solved their 458 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: explosive plays and they weren't letting them get the big 459 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: strikes down the field. Yeah yeah, So, but what happened 460 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: was late in that season and especially in the playoffs, 461 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes passing EPA what I was looking at went way 462 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: back up again, and so win of these playoffs. I 463 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: sort of looked. I was like, Okay, can that happen again? 464 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: What are examples of this happening before when other guys 465 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Breeze or Rogers Brady had had sort of their worst 466 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: seasons or lesser seasons, and it showed clearly that they 467 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: do sometimes bounce back with big playoffs. I think that's 468 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: what we're seeing and I think it's real interesting. 469 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: So let me go to now the weapons aspect. We 470 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: know that Snead has been amazing at corner. I would 471 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: assume he will just follow around Brandon Ayuk. The tougher 472 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: question is what happens with Debo in the last Super 473 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Bowl twenty twenty and he wasn't what he is now. 474 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: He was all over the field. If you watch the 475 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: cut up on YouTube, he's on the outside, he's in 476 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: the slot, he's in the backfield. He was everywhere, and 477 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: he was a problem. What do you think they do 478 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: can does mcduffy kind of track him if you will 479 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: or not? You don't want debo matchup with linebackers. 480 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: We know that now, No, I think there's a huge problem. 481 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: The furtnitive present is they basically have five guys that 482 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: are somewhat the same size, somewhat somewhat interchangeable, so they 483 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: can get you in matchups that are favorable for them 484 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: almost anywhere. So the issue then becomes defensively, you have 485 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: to disrupt the guy with the ball in his hand 486 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: throwing it. I think that's what it is, more than 487 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: just you know, the great blank up matchup play after play, 488 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: because they've shown they'll if there's time, they'll scheme guys open, right, 489 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: They just will, I think against just about anybody. So 490 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: that's where the chief inside pass rush Chris Jones, has 491 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: to make him make Purdy not able to really set 492 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: and throw at the same velocity and accuracy that he's 493 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: that he has before. Because Purdy, I think that's what 494 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: that's what we seem like when Cleveland or some of 495 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: these teams got to him, when that pocket collapses on 496 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: him or you start getting in his legs, in his face, 497 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I think his efficiency goes way way down. I think 498 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: that's the key to the game. And I think Kansas 499 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: City matches up pretty well. There should be able to 500 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: make some plays, maybe hit their hands on a couple 501 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: of footballs. 502 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: So that's interesting observation because I wonder, do you think 503 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: they're going to need to blitz perty. We know he's 504 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: been excellent against the blitz and you don't really want 505 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: to leave a you kittle deebo c mac alone omany. 506 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: Hugh will not play for the Chiefs obviously. Carlaftis has 507 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: had a good postseason. Chris Jones, You've always got to 508 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: watch him, But I don't know, do you do you 509 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: anticipate Spags dialing up some blitzes. He has been really, 510 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: really really good defensively calling all the right plays against 511 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: the Bills and especially against the Ravens. 512 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: He will I don't know that it's going to be 513 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: a super heavy but game. I mean, I guess if 514 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: they couldn't get there with four, but I think they'll 515 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: be able to get there with four enough to not 516 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: have to just you know, throw caution into the land. 517 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: Interesting, I guess. And I'll wrap up with this from 518 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: a gambling perspective, and I know you know that's not 519 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: your purview at all. If I throw out you know, 520 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: we're always looking for like the long shot first touchdown guy. 521 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Chiefs and I look at their 522 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: distribution MIC for receiver for catches in the play in 523 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: the playoffs, right, Kelsey twenty three, Rice twenty and then 524 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: you've got to go all the way down to MVS 525 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: at five. Essentially they're force feeding Kelsey and Rice. Well, 526 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: if I know that, and you know that everybody knows 527 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: that s the Niners. What if I took a dart 528 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: on a guy like Richie James, uh for a first 529 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: touchdown he has one catch in the playoffs? I mean, listen, 530 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: I just don't think Watson is going to really be 531 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: on the field, Munch. I don't think they trust him. 532 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: We know Tony's done, and I don't know what the 533 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: trust level is in hardmin. So I was looking at 534 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: a guy and I'm thinking Richie James and any thoughts on. 535 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly because you're going to get 536 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: long odds. 537 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: On that, right, yes, very very long. 538 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, yeah, I like that. I think it's a 539 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: good idea they threw to him. Did they did? They 540 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: just have him on a touchdown recently and it didn't 541 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: come to pass. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so 542 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: I remember he was. He was a forty nine er 543 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: draft deck. I remember him. Remember a guy in the 544 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: draft telling he look out for Richie James, good player. 545 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: So here he is. 546 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did well with the Giants for a minute. 547 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: The other one I like for the Niners. And this 548 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: is weird and again, you know, feel free to tear 549 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: it apart. I noticed Hugh hus Check, the great fullback 550 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: has his wife has gotten more ink for whatever Jackets 551 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: she's doing with Taylor thinking the Taylor's flip biyes or whatever. 552 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: She's gotten more ink than he has. He's basically been 553 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: a non factor obviously in the play in the two 554 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: playoff games, and then in the regular season he hasn't 555 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: done much. But if Super Bowl in twenty twenty Kyle 556 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: Shanahan used him and he was a major factor. A 557 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: bit of a surprise now he was obviously younger. I'm 558 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: just curious, if there's a guy to watch on this 559 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: offense under the radar, is it you is used Check? 560 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: Do you see him playing a part at all? Or 561 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: had they kind of faced out the fullback if you will, 562 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: it could be him. 563 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: It just feels like they've gone out of their way 564 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: to get McCaffrey's numbers and his touchdowns. So it's like 565 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, they get him a touchdown every game, and 566 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: it just feels so intentional. So that's probably as much 567 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: as anything, probably hurt use check for some of those 568 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: learning back touches, right, I would assume. 569 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're right, it almost felt like he was. 570 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: And I said this earlier in the season. Shanahan was 571 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: trying to prove a point. Everybody says running backs don't matter. 572 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: I'll show you, guys, I'll show you Christian McCaffrey's gonna 573 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: just eat everybody up. And he was, like you said, 574 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: force fed. But you know, these smart coaches are thinking 575 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: ahead and everybody's got watch Christian McCaffrey, MVP christ and 576 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: then somebody comes out in surprises. Maybe it's used check. 577 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, what about a pretty touchdown? Just figure 578 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: and hey, the Chiefs, you know, haven't done consistently great 579 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: all the time against mobile quarterback. And that's the way 580 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: that he's been pretty He's kind of been making some 581 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, helping his team lately, right, is just able 582 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: to scramble and make something happen. Maybe he gets the 583 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: first touchdown on you know, keeps the ball somehow. 584 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I like that. Now, wa you said Chiefs haven't done 585 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: well against the mobile quarterbacks and obviously simple sized recency bias. 586 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: Lamar didn't do really anything was that maybe you saw 587 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: something that what was. 588 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, well, they only gave Lamar to design rushes. I 589 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: think that was the big problem. So and then Lamar himself, 590 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I think just wasn't even looking around. There was that 591 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: one scramble on the right side, like he's looking downfield, 592 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: which is what everybody hey once, that's what they always say. 593 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: A great job by the quarterback. He's moving, but he's 594 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: keeping his eyes down. So yeah, unless you're Lamar Jackson, 595 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: and then we would like you occasionally to run for 596 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: fifty yards. Right, he just was not running. Even when 597 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: he broke through remember that run around the right side, 598 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: he's looking over his shoulder for like the guy to 599 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: get him. No, just go, You're faster than everybody else. 600 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know if Lamar lost a step or 601 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: just lost his way a little bit. In terms of 602 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: this new offense. Him to you know, think more as 603 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: a pastor all the time. But I think that was 604 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: a very disappointing from a Baltimore standpoint that they didn't 605 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: try to use that more. 606 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: Well, let me just follow up with that, was that 607 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: on just a young play caller, young ish to the NFL, 608 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: the kid out of Georgia who it was weird, Like 609 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: just the sequencing was odd. The lack of handoffs for 610 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: the running backs given the Kansas City soft run defense, 611 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: Like the whole game plan was wacky and they didn't 612 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: even pivot. I don't know if you saw the video. 613 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: Odell on the bench was like, you're running, is what 614 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: makes you special? Keeps the defense off balance? Like essentially 615 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: asking why aren't you running? What did you see there? 616 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, Todd Bnkin's fifty eight years old, so I'm sure 617 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: you appreciate that kid, But no, he's been around. He 618 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator for the Bucks when they had 619 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Jamis was starting out early in his career, so oh wow, 620 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: so he's been around. You know. John Harbaugh did a 621 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: great job of kind of explaining how a combination of 622 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: game flow and then the line of scrimmage is business 623 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: by Lamar where they sort of had runner pass based 624 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: on defensive alignment. I think the Chiefs took them out 625 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: of some of their planned runs and had them going 626 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: to passes, and it sort of got away from it. And 627 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: then by the time they got later in the game, 628 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: they sort of had to throw because they were behind, 629 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: and so all those things kind of came together and 630 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: they looked up and realized they only had six carries 631 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: to running backs, which I think it's the lowest number 632 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: in four hundred and seventeen total Raven games since two thousand. 633 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: So obviously they got taken out of their game. 634 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: That is crazy. Yes, good call on Monket, Thank you 635 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: for that. Let's go with a lot of people seem 636 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: to like the Chiefs here. Do you have a score? 637 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people are also saying low scoring. What's 638 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: your lean here? 639 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh? I like that. Well, I've been taking the homes 640 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: and the points all the way throughout the playoffs. So 641 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: the totals forty seven and a half, I can see 642 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: it being I could see it maybe going a little 643 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: over that. I could see maybe the Chiefs getting to 644 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven something like that. 645 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Interesting. I mean, yeah, yeah, you obviously don't care about this, 646 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: but do you think it's weird that every single person's 647 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: picking the Chiefs, yet Vegas has made San Francisco to favorite. 648 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: I do think it's very weird. I was surprised to 649 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: see San Francisco as the favorite. Sometimes that you need 650 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: to see that. It's like a reminder, Hey, don't get 651 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: too tied up in the short term. I just I 652 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: just don't know how you cannot look at what we're 653 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: looking at, which is the more recent games, and say 654 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I would rather have them all. I'd be much more 655 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: nervous having my money on the forty nine ers. We're 656 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: getting points, wouldn't you. 657 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, I would. I'm on the Niners. I just 658 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: wonder if the two weeks will you know, like the 659 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: Chiefs kind of had that week off in week eighteen, 660 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: not week off, but you know. 661 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: What I mean. 662 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: And then they come back like Kelsey was rested, and 663 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: they just three weeks in a row look awesome as 664 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: well as they have all seasons. And now there's the 665 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: two weeks slow down, and maybe that slows them down 666 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: just a little, whereas the Niners have sort of a reset. Hey, 667 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: we had the bye week. We were weirdly flat against 668 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: the Packers. We will flat against the lines. Now we 669 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: get to reset again, and I just wonder if that 670 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: will be a big boost for San Fran. 671 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose that it could be, because they need 672 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: to play better. You're right, they need to play better. 673 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: But when I think of the break, I think of 674 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey a little bit older, you know, just let 675 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: him rest up, you know. Mahomes has been pretty much 676 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: injury free, so it's been good for him. So I 677 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs will take it. They get their guard 678 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: backs now, right, Joe Tuoni's going to be back in 679 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: the game with a break, so and then we get 680 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: the history of Andy Reid after by weeks is very 681 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: good too, So I don't necessarily see that being a 682 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: huge advantage for one team or the other this week. 683 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Mike Sando the athletic enjoy the week 684 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: in Vegas and have fun at the game. 685 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Mike, I will thank you.