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Speaker 1: Hawks Live every Thursday from seven to nine, live on

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Speaker 1: air on seven Jenny ESPN, Seattle. No, here's your host,

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Speaker 1: Paul and Michael Bumpus. What's up, folks, I am Michael Bumpus. No,

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer. Today we have Dave Wyman and you're listening

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Speaker 1: to Hawks Live from vMac. The show starts every Thursday

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Speaker 1: at seven right here on seven ten ESPN. Dave, is

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Speaker 1: this real life? Is this? Is this? Real's? Football? Season?

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Speaker 1: Upon us? We got a game on right now, the

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Speaker 1: Cheese versus of Texans. The Hawks are getting ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Are you excited as excited as I am right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've been waiting for this for what's

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Speaker 1: six months now, since we've been locked down, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's really cool and I love the way

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Speaker 1: the NFL has handled it. Yeah, they've done such a

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Speaker 1: good job. You've been watching Hard Knocks at all? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you see how they're apparently Goodell said, look, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take this very seriously, and you know, there's, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's some money to be made in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: so they wisely did it very a very good way

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Speaker 1: as far as the testing and everything. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: really happy about that. Love the way the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: doing it. They're doing it, you know, first class, and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, we're gonna hopefully be able to get through

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Speaker 1: this thing, play all sixteen, get to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: really exciting team too. That's the thing I was worried about, Michael.

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Speaker 1: The more I look at this team, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: just I can't wait to watch them play this year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, being interrupted by by COVID nineteen would

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Speaker 1: be such a bummer. But hopefully they're able to keep

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Speaker 1: doing what they're doing and it's gonna be a good year. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're off to a good start. I mean so far,

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Speaker 1: no hiccups. They've done all the testing. Everyone's negative. There's

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Speaker 1: been a couple of hiccups as far as personnel or

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Speaker 1: admin people who work for organizations. But you said it,

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Speaker 1: there's money to be made and they have money to spend,

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Speaker 1: so they're able to really use their resources to make

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Speaker 1: sure these guys are safe during this whole thing. So

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Speaker 1: let's get right into a day. They add cuts on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: They got a fifty three man roster. Now, what are

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Speaker 1: your overall thoughts on this team? Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: Defense's overall thoughts of the defense so far, well, you

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Speaker 1: saw what I saw coming out here. It's just different,

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Speaker 1: it really is from last year and been comparing it

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Speaker 1: quite a bit to twenty thirteen. Now, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get ahead of myself, but you know, they've gotten

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Speaker 1: so good at safety, and I thought that was what

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Speaker 1: made those teams, you know, when they had that run

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Speaker 1: where they were the number one scoring defense. And the

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Speaker 1: other thing that you see out here is the defense

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Speaker 1: has actually winning the seven on seven drills and that's

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Speaker 1: usually set up for the offense, you know. So that's

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Speaker 1: the two things you see. The other thing I would

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Speaker 1: say is that Marquis Blair is just an entirely different player.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing would be if you didn't know

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Speaker 1: who Jamal Adams was, you would be out here going

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Speaker 1: who is number thirty three? I mean, it's it's no joke.

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Speaker 1: He makes plays like if they have a ten play,

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Speaker 1: you know, scrimmage or whatever, he's making two three plays,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a tackle for loss, a pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's just all over the place. So I thought last

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Speaker 1: But there was nobody like Bruce Irvin in camp last

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Speaker 1: And really Clowney is I think he's a better run player.

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Speaker 1: He's just disruptive in general. But as far as Bruce,

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Speaker 1: I think that they can play. They didn't play hardly

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're really deep in a lot

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Speaker 1: appreciate the death at linebackers. I know you have Bobby Wagner,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna depend on these guys to give Bobby a

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Jordan Brooks so far? Well, he's

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Speaker 1: He's got this pop in his pads. We had at

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of tackles that he had where you

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Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean, it's it's these guys are

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Speaker 1: But there's no pressure to get those guys in the field.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to have them performed because you have

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Speaker 1: every day. And this is a franchise. Today we talked

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Speaker 1: to Freddie Swain on the huddle and he was talking

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Speaker 1: along and you know, they they share all their information

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Speaker 1: and so that's what you know, Pete has. That kind

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Speaker 1: So I'm so you guys can hear the excitement in

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Speaker 1: how's that often? Second? We got DK coming back. Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll is raving about DK, saying he's had the best

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Speaker 1: just look more secure catching the ball and listening to

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Speaker 1: It seems like he's doing just that. He's getting moved around,

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Speaker 1: he's catching the difficult football what have you seen at DK. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody said this today that he's like learned all of

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Speaker 1: I mean he didn't run a whole lot of different routes,

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Speaker 1: but he sure picked things up quickly. And now he's

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Speaker 1: just that much better. So, yeah, he was only ten

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Speaker 1: because he had one hundred targets and I think Tyler

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Speaker 1: Lockett had one hundred and ten. This is a team

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Speaker 1: but when you do, it's nice to have that big

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Speaker 1: that group is like there's enough to go around for everybody,

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Speaker 1: so when they do throw a ball. Because we were

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Speaker 1: complained in a game where he had seventeen targets see target. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I mean these guys you may not get you know,

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Speaker 1: the beauty of that group. And uh yeah, I've loved

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Speaker 1: trying to get aclimated everything, just trying to learn everybody's names. UM,

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00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: learning the playbook and then just going out there and

426
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: just saw them showing everybody that you can be reliable,

427
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: you can be somebody who can help this team win.

428
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: It's been going smooth and looking forward to just keep going.

429
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean every day I learned something new about somebody else.

430
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: So UM, I'm just I'm looking forward to just keep

431
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: keep going. This let this mad don't continue. Hey, Philip,

432
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: you go from Tom Brady to Russell Wilson. Tom Brady's

433
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: to go. We all know that and recognize that. But

434
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: then you go to Russell Wilson another great UM. What

435
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: has what's the difference between the two, and what's the

436
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: similarity between the two? Um, Like you said, I mean

437
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: in both they're both different. Obviously, Russell's the US A

438
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: guy that's mobile, UM, and he can get in and

439
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: out of the pocket um extending to play. Um, Tom

440
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: is mobile pocket guy. UM. We all know that. But

441
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they both similar because

442
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: they both have that that desire to just go out

443
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: and then win. They want to win every up, they

444
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: want to win every play and they got that championship

445
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: mindset and that's something that you gotta have when when

446
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: you play quarterback. Well, and I'll ask you the same

447
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: thing about your your coaches. Now I'll say this, Philip,

448
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: I I think I feel like Bill Belichick maybe gets

449
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: a bad rap a little bit. I read his book, Um,

450
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: Education of a Coach, and that's when I was like,

451
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: I really started liking him. I I think, you know,

452
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: he's not great in the media and everything, But the

453
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: difference between there. First of all, you know, everybody thinks

454
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: he's this grump and you know all this, but maybe

455
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: you can dispel that. But the difference kind of sort

456
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: of the culture their versions here obviously both winning cultures. Yeah,

457
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean we all know it's a difference. We all

458
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: know coach Belitech he runs he runs this program a

459
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: certain way. But like you said, Bill, Bill does get

460
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: a bad rep because he's he's obviously he's amazing. Man.

461
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: I love Coach Belizeck when he was there. I mean,

462
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: I think the media sees a different side of him

463
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: than we see. Um. I mean, he's joking around, he's laughing,

464
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: but obviously we know on the field he's he's we grinding.

465
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: It's tough. Um, there's no secret to that. Um. You

466
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: get in what you put in. I mean you get

467
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: out what you put in. So but the culture, I mean,

468
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: it's a completely different coach. I mean Pete coach. Carroll

469
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: is all about going out there in competition and having

470
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: fun and and having swaggering and everything. And um, and

471
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sit here and say that there's there's not

472
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: a bad way to do it. I mean both both win.

473
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: So I mean toase, Carroll does it his way and

474
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: Bill does it his way, and they both look. Hey, Philip,

475
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm a former receiver. I had a cup of coffee

476
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: in the league with the Seahawks. Didn't do it on

477
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: your level, but I heard they were Again, Philip Door said,

478
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: I looked at the film. I'm all right, let's see

479
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: what Philip brings to the table. He can run the

480
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: hedge to slant the goal. I like the way you

481
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: work your leverage at the top of your route. What

482
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: do you feel like is the best part of your

483
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: game as a receiver. Um, I mean I feel like

484
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I feel like I can run the whole route tree. Um.

485
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm experienced enough to know the ins and outs of

486
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: the game and just try to little tricks and trades

487
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: that gets you open here. But obviously I can run,

488
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: and we all know that's no secret that I can run.

489
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: And um, that's one of the reasons why I came

490
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: to Seattle, because I feel like with Russ and with

491
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: Shott he calls them plays, I feel like they can

492
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: utilize me running more. And UM that's one of the

493
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: reasons why I really wanted to come to Seattle. They

494
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: felt also a little bit about yourself, like what what

495
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: you like to do? You know, it's always been my

496
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: experience that offensive linemen are always the hunters and fishermen,

497
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, receivers, you know. I don't know.

498
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can put them into into

499
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: a group. But what do you like doing off the field?

500
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: And have you been able to experience anything here? I

501
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: know we're in the lockdown and everything, but out here

502
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: in Seattle, what are you doing with your free time? Um?

503
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I like to I like to work out. I work

504
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: out a lot. Um, I like the bowl. I like

505
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: to play pool due till things. Go to the movies.

506
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a movie fanatic. I like to go

507
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: to the movies once a week and just find a

508
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: movie that that's out that I haven't seen. Um. I

509
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: can't do any of that right now really, but something

510
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: I used to look forward to when everything was open.

511
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: What's your best bowling score? Ooh um, I haven't bowled

512
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: in a while. The best I would say two around

513
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: like two twenty something. Wow. Once you said too, I'm like, okay,

514
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: you're out of my lady. Yeah, I used to. I

515
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: used to bowl all the time, like literally every other day,

516
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: but I haven't been going as much. Yeah. Hey, phel

517
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a new environment on Sunday. You know,

518
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be any fans out there. I told

519
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: our producer that said, Choby, I said, it's gonna be

520
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: like JV football on Wednesday or something like that. I

521
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: mean as far as atmosphere, Um, what are you expecting

522
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: and do you feed off the crowd? What it is?

523
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: What are your expectations overall going into a stadium, playing

524
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: a game and having no one out there. I mean,

525
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: it's that's tough. I mean, it's gonna be like practice. Um,

526
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: It's just like when we go out there and do

527
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: every day. It's gonna be like practice. So obviously be

528
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: playing against somebody else, another team that you that you

529
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: don't know. So I mean you gotta take it as that.

530
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, is still

531
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: a game, and there's another team that's that's in our way.

532
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: We gotta go out there, we gotta play as hard

533
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: as we can to go out there and win. We

534
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna be the same, but hopefully they

535
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: pump in some crowd noise and get us going a

536
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, that's kind of weird. I want to

537
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: ask you, it's kind of a follow up on that.

538
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: Does it matter that people aren't there? Because I mean,

539
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: really what you I mean, you're getting a reaction out

540
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: of people, you know, a bunch of people, you know,

541
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: sixty five thousand people. But in this case, it's gonna

542
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: be You're gonna get a reaction from a guy with

543
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: a stereo knob, you know, turning up the fan noise.

544
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's gonna if that's gonna make a difference,

545
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, in between plays and stuff,

546
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: you look up in the stands, there's nobody there. There's noise,

547
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: but there's no people. It's it's gonna be odd. Yeah,

548
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be different for other people. I mean,

549
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: I can't I can't speak for everybody, but for me,

550
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that much of a difference.

551
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: I know some people do feed off the crowd. I know, defensively,

552
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people feed off the crowd, whether it's

553
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: going out there making a big kid or a big play.

554
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I know, crowd gets get us. I'm I've never played

555
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: in at Seattle from the Seattle span, but I was

556
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. I mean, hopefully we can get

557
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: something going towards the end of the season, but I'm

558
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna let them handle that. But um, I was definitely

559
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: looking forward to plan in Seattle, Philip I I saw

560
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: on the stream the receivers went to like a random

561
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: camera during training camp and they were talking about who

562
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: have the messiest lockers out of the trainers, out of

563
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the receivers. Excuse me, where do you fall in that discussion?

564
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: And who has the messiest locker as a receiver. Um,

565
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: the messiest locker, I would say Tyler. He's been to

566
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: the longest, so he's still got all this stuff from

567
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: like his rookie year, and his locker got a lot

568
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: of stuff that that needs to be thrown away. But

569
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: I guess he keeps a lot of this stuff, and

570
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it messy. It's just a lot of

571
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: stuff in there. Yeah, it sounds like sounds like my

572
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: uh my mother in laws living room, lots of stuff.

573
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: Sounds like wife like she'd never thrown anything away in

574
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: her life. So yeah, get Tyler on there. Hey, Phil Man,

575
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking time man, good luck this season.

576
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see you play. Dear thing man. The

577
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: twelves will be rooting you on from home this year.

578
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thanks maving me. Thanks all right, we

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Speaker 1: got you covered all things Seahawks in the NFL. As

580
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: a professor. John Clayton joins us next on Hawks Live.

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00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Hawks Slid every Thursday from cheven and nine live on

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00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: air on cheven Jenny, ESPN Seattle. You are listening to

583
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Speaker 1: Hawks Live from v MAC. I'm Michael bump Is along

584
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman. Every Thursday. We'll be here on seven

585
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle. In today we get to talk to

586
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Speaker 1: John Clayton. John, How are you doing? Man? Great? How

587
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: are you you know? I'm doing all right? This football

588
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Seaton John football is on TV. This is real, It's

589
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: not a dream. How are you doing? I'm doing great,

590
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: although I mean, boy, Houston looks terrible right now. I mean,

591
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it. It's amazing to think how we

592
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: figured Patrick Mahomes would rip up the Texans offense or defense.

593
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: But what I'm amazed at is that there's hardly any

594
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: response right now from an offense on Houston that has

595
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: so much money invested. I mean, four receivers making a

596
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: total of forty four million dollars a year. They've got

597
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: two offensive lineman, eleven million dollars center, a twenty two

598
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: million dollars left tackle, a thirteen million dollars running back

599
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: at thirty nine million dollars quarterback, and they're just getting

600
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed. Wow. And early on they were up seven zip.

601
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: It was like the playoff game a little bit. Yeah,

602
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: now they're coming back. Yeah. We saw Jacob Martin get

603
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: a sack. That was kind of it was kind of

604
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: sad for yes, I agree, But it's what's the light? John?

605
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: Watching the first game, I mean, do you feel like

606
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: you know everything's normal, You're you're kind of hearing a

607
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: little crowd noise. I got to watch maybe ten minutes

608
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: of it or so before I came down here, But uh,

609
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: get you fired up. I mean it does. Yeah, I

610
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: mean I'm very fired up by it, because again, you

611
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: can see football, and I thought this was going to

612
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: be a competitive game. But in reality, I know, the

613
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: oddsmakers had it at nine, nine and a half points,

614
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: and you figured that Kansas City was gonna win, but

615
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: not by this much. I mean, you know, and what

616
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: you wonder about what's going on with Bill O'Brien. I mean,

617
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: I know that the owner is scared of him because

618
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Bill is such a strong personality and he gets pretty

619
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: much anything that he wants to do. Bill O'Brien does.

620
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: But right now, I mean, you know, they come back

621
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Speaker 1: this week, they lose bad to Kansas City. They're losing

622
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: bad right now, and then next week they play Baltimore

623
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: and they have two more tough games after that. I mean,

624
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: they could start off one and three, oh and four,

625
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: and you're saying, wait a second, We've got all this

626
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: money invested in this team and it's terrible. All right, John,

627
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about these Seahawks. You know, John or Suwa

628
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: was cut in Penny Heart was put on the roster.

629
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: That surprised me. I talked to a couple of people

630
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Speaker 1: that didn't surprise them. Were you surprised by that move

631
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: or wasn't expected? Well, I know, because again it's like,

632
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you observed anything, because I didn't,

633
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: And maybe that's my fault. I didn't observe anything that

634
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: said penny Hart is on the agenda, And of course

635
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Speaker 1: I looked at John or Suap and I thought, I

636
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: like him. Now I can figure that maybe there was

637
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: a chance that Freddy Swain had moved ahead of him.

638
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: We knew that Ursua had the hamstring injury, but with Ursuap,

639
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: who I thought was going to be a guy they

640
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: really wanted to try to get on the field that

641
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, he would be the slot guy, a backup

642
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: slot guy and all that. But apparently Penny Hart came

643
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and did such a good job. And

644
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: so my guess is because I was thinking, okay, is

645
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: this a move that they have for Josh Gordon, Maybe,

646
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, just saving a spot for him. There are

647
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: gambling Sue could clear waivers, and of course he did,

648
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: because there's only seventeen waiver claims this year. Or was

649
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: it just a matter that maybe Freddy Swain bad him out?

650
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Penny Hart came out of nowhere?

651
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Did you sense in watching every practice that you saw

652
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: enough out of Penny Hart? You can see it because

653
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: apparently they did no John, I've been on the Asura

654
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: bandwagon since he stepped foot here, and I heard whispers

655
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: a Penny doing okay. But I thought because last year

656
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: they activated or saw a bunch of gangs so they

657
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't cut him and him get picked up. He made

658
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: a play against the forty nine ers got this hawks

659
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: down to the one. I thought he was not a lot,

660
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I just didn't see this move happening. No,

661
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: in a case of with Ursua, I mean when you

662
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: look at his talent skills, I mean you can see

663
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: him doing a couple of different things. I mean, one,

664
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Speaker 1: I know he's not Deebo Samuel, but I can see

665
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: him doing jet sweeps. You can see him maybe doing

666
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: some return stuff. And also certainly I mean I thought

667
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: he was going to be the second best guy behind

668
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Lockett as a slot guy. But apparently I guess I was.

669
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Speaker 1: I was missing on that, and maybe I was just

670
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: missing in practice. Now you know how it is over

671
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: there at the vMac. You know I'm a tier three guy.

672
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: With a possible Tier two but you know, and we're

673
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: standing like, you know, five feet away from the tier

674
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: two guys. But usually they practiced in the far end

675
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: of the field, near the water, and so I didn't

676
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: see enough of the wide receivers. I certainly saw enough

677
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: of the defensive lineman, but I missed on that one. Well, yeah,

678
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a whole lot to see.

679
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was one of those where,

680
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think also we just talked to um

681
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Philip Dorsett, what a great guy, you know, and and

682
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a lot of that. I mean, look, that may sound corny,

683
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: but people, I mean, if it's all things are equal

684
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: as far as talent goes. And I'm not saying John

685
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Ursue is a bad guy at all. I'm just saying that,

686
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you see something or hear something from

687
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: a guy and uh, you know, it's it's they get

688
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: to see a lot more than we do. That's for sure.

689
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: We just see the tip of the iceberg when we're

690
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: out there at practice. But yeah, John, we were talking

691
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: about a couple of the key players in Atlanta, and uh,

692
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: I know we talked about that on our show, but

693
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: one being uh, Todd Gurley and the other being Keyan O'Neil.

694
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: When you go around, I know you every every year

695
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: do like an analysis of of every team, and it's

696
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: certainly the teams that the Seahawks are gonna play. But

697
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: what do you think about Atlanta's here? What do you

698
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: think they're projected record it's gonna be? And how are

699
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: you feeling about those two players I mentioned? I feel

700
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: questionable about both because here's Todd Gurley and you know

701
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: he's got the knee injury. You know, he's got the

702
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: problems with the arthritic knee and it's not going to

703
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: get better. I mean, I think that maybe if they

704
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: handle it right, they can get you fifteen to twenty

705
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: five touches out of him and be productive. But it's

706
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: not like he's going to have a hundred yard rushing

707
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: game fifty yard pass receiving. I just don't see that happening.

708
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: He can't get enough touches because of the knee. And

709
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: then you look at Neil, who's a really good player,

710
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: but he's had you know what, acl and achilles and

711
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: that that comes back to hot him and then you wonder,

712
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, how that's going to fit in and so

713
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: the bigger concern I think is a cornerback position, because

714
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go with a rookie and Oliver

715
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: who is right now struggling and struggled last year to

716
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: a point they wanted to get rid of him, you

717
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: know that Desmond Trufonco because they didn't have the cap

718
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: room to be able to keep him, and so I

719
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: think they're vulnerable at the cornerback position. We'll see Neil

720
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: is a good player when he's healthy, and of course

721
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: right now he's healthy. But what you wonder about is

722
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: there enough in the secondary to hold down the speed

723
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks and also the speed of other teams

724
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Hey, John, the Hawks made

725
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: a lot of moves defensive line, linebacker drafted number one,

726
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: got Jamal Adams in the secondary, moves made on the

727
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. Have they done enough to be the favorites

728
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: to win this division and one of the contenders in

729
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: the conference? Yeah? Enough? I think to be the slight

730
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: edge because there's certainly a slippage right now in San Francisco,

731
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: but not much. I mean, you know, they'll go from

732
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: like thirteen wins to eleven. In my opinion, you know,

733
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: because they're still pretty good on the defensive line, not

734
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: as good without DeForrest Buckner, and my big concerned And

735
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: this is you know, and this is the thing we

736
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: watched tonight with Houston. Okay, if you're vulnerable at the

737
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: cornerback position or in the secondary, you've got problems, particularly

738
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: in a league like this that's getting faster at wide receiver,

739
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: bigger at wide receiver, and of course a little bit

740
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: more mobile quarterbacks that can run around and find a

741
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: way to make plays. And what you look at is

742
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: that they didn't do anything. I mean, you know, Witherspoon's

743
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: been a disappointment. They got Emmanuel Moseley, who's okay, you know,

744
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: you've got really I think Richard Sherman and what might

745
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: be his last year in the NFL, he's still one

746
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: of the best in football. But is there enough right

747
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: now to contain some of the passing offenses in this league?

748
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, Like can they contain like even Hopkins this

749
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: year from Arizona in this week's game. So I worry

750
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: about that, and I worry about that the same thing

751
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. And so I think they're vulnerable right now

752
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: at cornerback this year is such a mystery, John, And

753
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Hopkins down in Arizona, and everybody

754
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: just assumes that Kyler Murray's going to take the next step.

755
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have any games to go off of in

756
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: the preseason or whatever. But you've been watching Hard Knocks,

757
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: I know, and I know that you said Sean mcvay's

758
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: kind of the puppeteer for Jared Goff. I agree, But

759
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: still I still feel like the Rams have enough personnel.

760
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, you know, and Goff is good.

761
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I still feel like they're going to

762
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: be more in the mix than Arizona. I think Arizona

763
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: is a good up and coming team. But are we

764
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: inflating our expectations for the Cardinals or do you think

765
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: that's legit? No? I think the Cardinals right now are

766
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: the most improved team in football. The question is what

767
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: does that translate into wins? Does that mean seven wins,

768
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: eight wins? Nine wins? Is not going to be above nine.

769
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: I think it's more towards seven wins, which is a

770
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: pretty big improvement for that team. But what I look

771
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: at with the Rams, it's like it's like the same

772
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: thing we're looking at to a certain degree with the Texans. Okay,

773
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: so they put so much into the offense that is

774
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: there enough on defense because they had to sacrifice several

775
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: players on defense, and they paid the price. You can

776
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: see it in the secondary. And then you look at

777
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: the Rams team that since the Super Bowl two years ago,

778
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, they've lost eleven starters on

779
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: defense nickel cornerback, three offensive line starters, Randon Cooks and

780
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. And the only thing that they added this

781
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: year was a bunch of draft choices non first round

782
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: And basically, you know, Leonard Floyd, can that be enough

783
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: to be able to stay ahead of Arizona? And I

784
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: questioned it. I know that offensively and the coaching they

785
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: can do a good job. And you'll appreciate this, Dave.

786
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: They let Wade Phillips go. How do you do that?

787
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: You know? The biggest regret I had when when I

788
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: went to Denver and signed there, I wish Wade had

789
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: stayed the defensive coordinator instead of the head coach because

790
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: he was not a good head coach and he was

791
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: a really good defensive coordinator. I felt like we'd we'd

792
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: a won more games. But you think he's done, is

793
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: he No, not at all. I think you know, it

794
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: just comes down to I know there was a chance

795
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: that he was going to get onto Philadelphia's staff and

796
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: somebody will pick him up. I know. You know. The

797
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: one thing that's kind of interesting right now is that,

798
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: thanks to Marv Levy and other coaches, you don't worry

799
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: about Okay, so he's seventy seventy one years old. You know,

800
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: he's like, like Pete Carroll, I still contend is going

801
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: to get one more contract with this team, probably a

802
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: three year deal, which I think is going to be

803
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: fine because you know where it used to be. Uh,

804
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what what is it now? Seventy seventy one?

805
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: That's like the news sixty Well, especially if you're Pete Caro,

806
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's practically like a forty year old right.

807
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. It was funny because I was going down

808
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: and picking up the mail the other day, and of course,

809
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm literally a ten minute walk, three minute

810
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: drive in the vMac, and of course it's like, oh,

811
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: so they're practicing in the afternoon because I can hear

812
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: the music, and the music was great as it all funk. Oh,

813
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: absolutely well, actually this wasn't actually a funk song, but

814
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: it was a good song. But uh, but the one

815
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: thing I know, because as I told Pete years ago,

816
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: I said, Pete, you know, I can hear all the

817
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: music if I just go on my deck or walk outside,

818
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: and it's like it's which is great, But the big,

819
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: big thing is don't play country because I'll do nine

820
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: one one the police. And he says, we will not

821
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: play country because again, the beat doesn't help. This beat

822
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: that we play helps. Yeah, you don't want to hear

823
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: about lost girlfriends? No, yeah, John, something tells me you're

824
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: you're a techno Thursday type of guy. John, No, I'm

825
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: a funk guy. I mean, come on, I go back

826
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: to James Brown. I still, you know, growing up in

827
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: the worst ghetto in the state of Pennsylvania, and what

828
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: was so great, particularly in junior high. I would sit

829
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: back in the back of the room and all the

830
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: guys would take care of me because all we do

831
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: is well, this is a Stevie Wonder and James Brown,

832
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it wasn't educational for me because

833
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm paying attention more to the music than it was

834
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: what they were teaching. But again, It was so great

835
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: for me because that's what I grew up with. Well,

836
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: John Football's back. That means we're all gonna talk to

837
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: each other a lot more. Man, We appreciate you taking

838
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: time out your day. Hey, thank you, and I'll talk

839
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: to you tomorrow. Michael, Yes, sir, all right? Is it

840
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: finally time to let Russ cook? Dave and I set

841
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the record straight? Coming up next right here on a

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Speaker 1: hots live Hawks Sucks Live every Thursday from seven to nine,

843
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,200
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844
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,040
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Speaker 1: Hawks Live from vMac every Thursday at seven on seven

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Speaker 1: ten ESPN. Dave, shit the people or shit the Hawks?

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Speaker 1: Let Russ finally cook? And what does that mean? I

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Speaker 1: think we have like three definitions for let Russ cook.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what it means to you, and then I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what it means to me. When you said people,

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Speaker 1: it's because Jim calls him the cooking people exactly. This

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Speaker 1: annoys me, It really does, just because look, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's ever going to change the formula. And so

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Speaker 1: I did a big breakdown of you know, Russ when

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Speaker 1: he passes twenty five times or lass and twenty six plus,

856
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Speaker 1: and it was pretty remarkable how the win percentage went

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Speaker 1: down when he's throwing more. Now I know that, you know,

858
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Speaker 1: when you're behind, you're gonna throw more, so that kind

859
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Speaker 1: of skews the number. But still I feel like the

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Speaker 1: games where Russ is like nineteen for twenty five, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing and two touchdowns and no interceptions, I mean,

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Speaker 1: those are usually the best performances in the best wins.

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Speaker 1: So it's just not what this team is about though.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, but look, can Russ you know, they're

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Speaker 1: letting him cook in some you know, to some degree,

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Speaker 1: because like think about last year the Rams game, the

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Speaker 1: throw to Tyler Lockett. Yeah, I mean that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of thing that they actually, you know, they embraced that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, look, you know, there's gonna the pass rush

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Speaker 1: is gonna break us down sometimes and so Russ has

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Speaker 1: to go on the move and he you know, he

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00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: they practice. They remember Pete saying they want to be

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Speaker 1: the best scrambling team in the NFL, and that was

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Speaker 1: a perfect example of just a beautiful throw. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody else can make that throw. You know, you

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Speaker 1: can talk about Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, you know,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, I just think he's the best

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Speaker 1: at making these ad lib plays, and so that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what Russell's about. So I just don't see where

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's a winning formula of how they

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Speaker 1: run the ball, and then I think Russ is just

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Speaker 1: a perfect compliment of He's a great play action pass guy.

883
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Speaker 1: I would say when I played it was Boomer Assison

884
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: was really difficult to tell if they handed the ball

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Speaker 1: off or not. I think Russ is the best modern

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Speaker 1: day play action pass guys. So with the tight ends

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Speaker 1: and everything, and then the really good running game, that's

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Speaker 1: really gonna help Russ. But I just think that's who

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Speaker 1: he is. Now. You guys, just you and NASA were

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Speaker 1: talking during the break there about if you ran all

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Speaker 1: of those plays that Kansas City is running and did

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Speaker 1: all that, could Russ make those throws? Yeah? Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: he could. But I just don't think that's the formula

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Speaker 1: for this team. And when people want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to put a different kind of offense, a different

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. And and by the way, even the

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Speaker 1: national people are saying that. And these are the same

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Speaker 1: national people that like five years ago said he was

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Speaker 1: too short. Ye, so you know that now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, everybody's paying attention and there's a lot more scrutiny.

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Speaker 1: We heard a national analysts say that the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: actively subverting him, meaning you know, not getting him the

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Speaker 1: weapons that he needs, and like, why would you do that?

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks have known what people are just figuring out now,

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Speaker 1: and some of US fans have known this for a

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Speaker 1: long time. So instead of let Russell cook, I would

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Speaker 1: just say leave Russell alone, Leave him alone, you make

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Speaker 1: you make a good point. Let Russ cook. Can he

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Speaker 1: do what Patrick Mahomes is doing? I think he can.

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Speaker 1: But let Russ cook in his own kitchen, right His

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Speaker 1: kitchen isn't the brand new twenty nineteen home that's being

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Speaker 1: built at Newcastle. You know. His kitchen is more like

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Speaker 1: my grandma's kitchen with the old pots and pants, like

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna look all sexy and garbage

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Speaker 1: garbage disposal there. No, there's a compactor, you know, the

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Speaker 1: whole school compactor in there. You know. That's that's my

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Speaker 1: vision of letting Russ cooks. Let Russ cook. Let him

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Speaker 1: cook in his own way. And in this offense, to me,

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Speaker 1: it means doing what you mentioned. The scramble plays right,

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Speaker 1: letting him because a lot of guys don't have the

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Speaker 1: green light to do what Russell does. A lot of

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Speaker 1: guys the coach is gonna tell you you get outside

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Speaker 1: the pocket, you read your backside. If it's not there,

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Speaker 1: you get out of bounce here, throw it away. That's

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Speaker 1: not the way he's coached, right, it's you get outside

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Speaker 1: the pocket, nothing's there, Okay, go be special, goal, be special,

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Speaker 1: Go make something happened. Go cook. That's my version of

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Speaker 1: letting Russ cook. And what people don't realize this For

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Speaker 1: the first nine seasons. When it comes to wins all

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Speaker 1: time quarterbacks, Russell is fourth on the list, but eighty

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Speaker 1: six wins within the first nine seasons. He's only played eight,

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Speaker 1: so he has one more season to play and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna pass Peyton Manning at the top with ninety two wins.

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Speaker 1: Russell has eighty six wins. That lets me know he's

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Speaker 1: been cooking. You don't cook without a good chef, and

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Speaker 1: Russ is a chef. Right. That's a great comparison the

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Speaker 1: way the way you put that, and and the other

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Speaker 1: thing too, is you mentioned this. You know, Russ's fourth

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Speaker 1: on this list. Look at the company that he keeps yea.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you have to keep in mind

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Speaker 1: way less attempts. I mean, there there was a there

942
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Speaker 1: was a there's a stat every week that we that

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Speaker 1: we look at it and it's like number of seasons

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Speaker 1: with three thousand plus yards passing, a number of seasons

945
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Speaker 1: with this many touchdowns, number of seasons with this few interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and and you look at the numbers like the pass

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Speaker 1: attempts Peyton Manning through it like ten times more per game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I mean Russ on some of these things, he's

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Speaker 1: doing it so much more efficiently. So but I think

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Speaker 1: it's a great point, like that's Russell's kitchen is the ability,

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Speaker 1: because you're right, they shut down other quarterbacks. Other quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: can't do that. Aaron Rodgers can't do that, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's okay at it, but you know, and

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Speaker 1: maybe Mahals, but I would still say, you know, other

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Speaker 1: than Lamar Jackson, you know, maybe maybe Deshaun Watson, but

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Speaker 1: you know, the other quarterbacks that in this in this category,

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Speaker 1: they can't do those kinds of things, and I think

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Speaker 1: Russ gets the green light on those things. So I

959
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: think what needs to happen probably is, you know, for

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Speaker 1: Russell to I think the offense will continue more and

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Speaker 1: more every year to flow through him, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's like he's almost like an offensive coordinator, and Schottenheimer

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00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: and him are working together on that, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, and going up tempo sometimes, you know, I

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Speaker 1: would say this to the up tempo people too. A

966
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Speaker 1: lot of times you end up getting in not a

967
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: great situation. You know, if you take the whole clock,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, you're allowed to get good matchups

969
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Speaker 1: in there and maybe get a mismatch. Also, motion and

970
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: things like that. So those kinds of things can sometimes

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Speaker 1: be a detriment to your offense. So I just I

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Speaker 1: would just say, like I said, leave Russell alone, Leave

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Speaker 1: him alone. All right? Are you ready? I gotta I

974
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: got some more word play, Okay, So let Russ cook

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Speaker 1: right now. He's gotten more ingredients to cook this year.

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Speaker 1: He's got Greg Olsen, he's got Philip doors set, Josh

977
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Speaker 1: Gordon's gonna be back, he's got a new offensive line.

978
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: So I think people just need to realize what it

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Speaker 1: looks like when Russell does this thing. This is an

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Speaker 1: offense that works, This is an organization that has had

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Speaker 1: success over the past ten years. Why would you switch

982
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: it up now? Now? I think they'll open up the

983
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Speaker 1: playbook a bit, especially when Josh Gordon gets there. You

984
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: got Will Dissy's gonna be back, Greg Olsen. You at

985
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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide, so he's got some weapons to work with.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he does. Now, let's look

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00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: at some more sets. Most games with four touchdown passes

988
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: and one or fewer interceptions in the first nine seasons.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is on that list. He's got ten of

990
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: those games and he's only played eight seasons, so he

991
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: has one more season to play to try to be paid.

992
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: Manny who was at the top of that list with thirteen,

993
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with twelve, dam Mano with ten, So he's

994
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Speaker 1: on pace to do exactly to be a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And it just doesn't It just doesn't look like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what people are kind of getting caught

997
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Speaker 1: up on right now. Yeah, well totally and and this

998
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Speaker 1: is I mean again, look at the company he keeps,

999
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Speaker 1: Dan Marino, Donovan McNabb, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Brett Farve.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Andrew luck while he was good,

1001
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Speaker 1: But I mean Johnny Unitus is even in here on

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Speaker 1: this list. By the way, I think you sit around

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00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: thinking way too much about the You got your grandma's

1004
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: kitchen and kitchen. Now you're talking about ingredien ingredients. I

1005
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: like that though. That's it's it's true. And you know,

1006
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Speaker 1: I think you you're getting in some really good targets.

1007
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Speaker 1: I feel like the one guy I'm really rooting for

1008
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Speaker 1: it just to stay healthy, Just stay healthy, will Disling

1009
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Speaker 1: if he can just stay healthy. And I know we've

1010
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: been talking a lot about Greg Olsen, but yeah, I

1011
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: think you know, early on it didn't look like he

1012
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Speaker 1: was gonna get all of the targets and everything are

1013
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: receivers and that he really wanted. But it all of

1014
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, it is starting to come together that Russ

1015
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Speaker 1: has plenty of people to throw the ball too. Yes

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Speaker 1: he does. And we'll see it all right coming up next,

1017
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Speaker 1: we'll go inside the film room and take a deeper

1018
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: look at the falcons and see who the Seahawks need

1019
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: to stop to be one to know that's around the

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Speaker 1: corner on Hawks Live. Hawks Live every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on seven Jenny ESPN, Seattle.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you're listening to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumps

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Speaker 1: along with Dave Wyman every Thursday. We're here on seventeen

1024
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Speaker 1: ESPN at vMac. All right, so now we're going inside

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Speaker 1: the film room. This is where a lot of coaches

1026
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: spend time a lot of players. If you really love

1027
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: the game, you dissect your opponent. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: Pete Carre on the Gang did this week to get

1029
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: ready for the Atlanta Falcons. How do you stop Julio Jones?

1030
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy had ten catches for one hundred

1031
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: fifty four yards against the Hawks last year. He's had

1032
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Speaker 1: six straight seasons with over eighty catches in thirteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I think you can only hope to contain him. Here's

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Speaker 1: a clip of what he did last year. Show up

1035
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Speaker 1: with the play fake deep in his own territory, hitters,

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Speaker 1: he throws, Jones, makes the catch and breaks the tackle

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Speaker 1: on the near sideline all the way out to the

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. It's gonna take more than one

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Speaker 1: to bring him down, and that time he picked up

1040
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Speaker 1: twenty five. The Falcons were under their own goalposts and

1041
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: they get out of there in our hurry. Now, playques

1042
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: and comebacks are big in this Atlanta offense. That's why

1043
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I think the addition of tad Girl is gonna be

1044
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Speaker 1: great because it's really gonna sell the play as and

1045
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Speaker 1: even more, what do you do to stop a guy

1046
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: like jo Jolio Jones day, Well, I think you gotta

1047
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Speaker 1: double him. And you know, it's kind of interesting. When

1048
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Speaker 1: we talked to Orlando Leadbetter from the Atlanta Journal Constitution,

1049
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Speaker 1: he was talking about how, you know, yeah, he doesn't

1050
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Speaker 1: catch a lot of passes in the red zone or

1051
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Speaker 1: touchdowns because everybody's doubling him and so the other receiver

1052
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: always ends up kind of you know, getting getting those throws.

1053
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Speaker 1: But you know, I just remember every week with let's

1054
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Speaker 1: say you're gonna run cover you know you're gonna run

1055
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: cover one, which is man to man coverage. You've got

1056
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: a free safety deep. There's always a guy that you

1057
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: keep your eye on, like who do I need to help?

1058
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: And you know you need to help the guy who's

1059
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: who's covering Julio Jones so that that's you know, probably

1060
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: what you do. But I feel like he's just gonna

1061
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: get his numbers. You just try to minimize him as

1062
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: as much as you can, but it'll be really Uh

1063
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a great matchup to watch whoever is playing,

1064
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: whether it's Trey Flowers or Quentin Dunbar or Shaquille Griffin

1065
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: or you know, maybe one of the safeties because you

1066
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: know Julio Jones is he's one of those special players.

1067
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean you look at he's six threes two hundred

1068
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds. Receivers are the most ridiculous athletes in

1069
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: the world. Ay, Dave, I appreciate that day. Yeah, it's

1070
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna get a big head now. Uh No,

1071
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean and also some of the biggest divas in

1072
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: the world. That is true. You accept that you're not

1073
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: a diva though. I just want to make everybody know

1074
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: that our listeners know that Bump is not a diva.

1075
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, look, you're out there. This is

1076
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: why corners get paid ridiculous amounts of money like Ramsey,

1077
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, because you're out there covering some of the

1078
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: best athletes in the world as far as they could run.

1079
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: They're big, they're strong, they're guys like DK Metcalf and

1080
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. So you know, that's uh. I think that

1081
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: the big problem is how much do you pay attention

1082
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: to him? Yeah, you know, and I'm sure he's had

1083
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of games where he's kind of been the

1084
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: decoy and other and this is why he doesn't have

1085
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns. I mean, he's only got six

1086
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns per year. And if you look at the number

1087
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 1: of you know, the yardage that he's amassed over the years,

1088
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the same, it's not where it

1089
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: should be as far as touchdowns go. But he just

1090
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: draws lots of attention. So that guy is uh. And

1091
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: he's always been a good guy. The thing I really

1092
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: liked about him last year was after the Seahawks played them,

1093
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: they were one and seven, and he kind of gave

1094
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: a big, impassioned speech about you know, Dan Quinn and

1095
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of helped save his job, you know. And I

1096
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: think Julio Jones when he speaks in that locker room,

1097
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: and I think the ownership and everything they hear him,

1098
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: and so, you know, I think that was one of

1099
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: the cooler things that he did. And I think because

1100
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: we all love Dan Quinn. He's a good man, but

1101
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: you know that was that was cool of what he did.

1102
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: So that's that's just one of the better players right

1103
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: there in the NFL of you know, in any position. Yeah,

1104
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: I broke down film with Jolio. He can catch a

1105
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: screen and take it to the house. He can run

1106
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: the goal ball, he can run across the middle, he

1107
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: moves into the slot, he creates mismatches, he can run

1108
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: the short stuff. Everything you ask a receiver to do,

1109
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: he can do and he does it at a high

1110
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: level except score touchdowns. But that allows everyone else around

1111
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: them him to eat a bit. So I understand. I'm

1112
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: and he's selfless. You hear about his work, ethic, he's humble,

1113
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: all the things you want the players. What you hear

1114
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: about Julio Jones. So it's nice to hear that a

1115
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: guy at his superstar level remains humble and works his

1116
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: butt off. So now, what Todd Gurley do we see?

1117
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Do we see the twenty nineteen Todd Gurley? Do we

1118
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: see the guy who was an MVP candidate, who who

1119
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: led this team to a Super Bowl? Um? I don't

1120
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: know day And here's a clip of what he did

1121
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: last year from forty three golf there center wouldn't be

1122
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: a bit supplies to see Gurley get the ball. Here

1123
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: it slopped on the New Yort side and goalie does

1124
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: get it, goes upside. That's some running room and he's

1125
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna goal for the first down. He's gonna go all

1126
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: the way for a touchdown? Are you kidding me? Fifty

1127
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: seven yards on a third down and twenty and Todd

1128
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: Gurley's into the house. Dave, I remember that play third

1129
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: down in twenty and he takes it to the house.

1130
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: That is the danger that Todd Gurley presents. Now are

1131
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: we gonna see that? Todd Gurley? And there's something about

1132
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: guys going to a different team that rejuvenates you. Yeah,

1133
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: you know about that. What's it light going to a

1134
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: different team that does it get you going? I mean,

1135
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: what's the mentality of a player? Well, I mean you

1136
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: feel like the team before you, I mean your old

1137
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: team kind of kicked you to the curve and you

1138
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: want to prove everybody wrong. So you know, how about

1139
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: Rabel calling that he goes I wouldn't be surprised to

1140
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: see Gurly get it and then off he goes for

1141
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But yeah, I mean there's kind of two

1142
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: different versions of Todd Gurley. So to answer your question, man,

1143
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know which one we're gonna get.

1144
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: That's the big mystery. And I talked to two people

1145
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: now from Atlanta and they both said, that's what all

1146
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: they've been talking about there, right, we're talking about let

1147
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Russell Cook here, they're talking about which version of Todd

1148
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: Gurley are we gonna see? So you know, I just

1149
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: fear that it's gonna be the good version, and I'm

1150
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: just hoping that. You know, a big problem for the

1151
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks last year was run defense, and we haven't talked

1152
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: a lot about that because it was a lack of

1153
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: sacks and things like that. But run defense suffered a

1154
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: little bit last year, So that's gonna be a challenge

1155
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: for them if he's back to be in that kind

1156
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: of guy. The thing is, you know, I think in camp,

1157
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: you rest a guy, you're probably gonna see the good

1158
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: version of him. Because Orlando Ledbitter told us that, look,

1159
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: he's resting, you know, and when he's well rested, he's okay.

1160
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: I think what happens is he starts to get broken

1161
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: down a little bit, but in week one, I'm sure

1162
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: they took really good care of him. And it's gonna

1163
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: be tough because you know, the Seahawks know this better

1164
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: than anybody that can. He can do everything, catch the

1165
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. He's really a good receiver.

1166
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: But he's also a really good running back, so they're

1167
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to be on it. That's one of the

1168
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: most fascinating things about week one. The first thing is

1169
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy. For the most part, get demed up in camps,

1170
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: but especially this training camp, they take care of guys.

1171
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: In two. You have so much time to prepare for

1172
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: a team that they're gonna have to dig into the

1173
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: archives to throw something the natchet that you you're not

1174
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: really ready for it, you know, So I appreciate that

1175
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: about week one. I'm interested to see what the tackling

1176
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: looks like. You're gonna try to tackle guy like Todd

1177
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: Gurley and Julio Jones. You haven't gotten these live reps.

1178
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: What special team is going to look like, so there

1179
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: are some questions there. But I appreciate week one because

1180
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: for the most part, everybody is fresh, so now they

1181
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: picked up a guy, Dante Fowler from the Rams who

1182
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: at eleven and a half sacks last year and did

1183
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: not make the Pro Bowl, which kind of leaves me

1184
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: scratching my head a bit. But he's going to be

1185
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: a problem. They had twenty eight sacks last year, bottom

1186
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: of the league with the Seahawks and the Detroit Lions,

1187
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: so they're trying to get better there. Here's a clip

1188
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: of Dante Fowler Russell. We'll set the blitz steps up.

1189
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: A boy just gets hit again. Now he's gonna go

1190
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: down just across the forty yard line. It's Dante Fowler

1191
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: Junior who finally gets to him. And that's a coverage

1192
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: sack because Russ had a not a split second to

1193
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: look and see and there was just nobody there. And

1194
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 1: now Clark is gonna tick down. Russia is not gonna

1195
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: try to stop it. Dave, When I look at film

1196
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: of Dante Fowler, I see a guy who's not really explosive,

1197
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: but he's long, and he just keeps getting at you,

1198
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: keeps getting at you, never gives up. What do you

1199
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: like about this dude? Well? I liked him when he

1200
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: was in Jacksonville, and he is just he's one of

1201
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: those good talented edge rushers that I just hope he's

1202
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: lined up across from Dwain Brown, you know. I mean,

1203
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: and look, we'll see with Brandon Shell. I mean, I've

1204
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: heard really good things about him. He's really long, so

1205
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: you know that's that's good, and he's looked really good

1206
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: in practice. But yeah, I thought I've always thought Fowler's

1207
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of an underrated and certainly he was last year

1208
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: eleven and a half Saxon didn't to the Pro Bowl,

1209
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was a good pickup for them. So look,

1210
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think everybody thinks that our offensive

1211
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: line is just gonna be totally out of sorts. You've

1212
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: got a bunch of veterans out there. Other other than

1213
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: the rookie, You've got guys that have experienced and they

1214
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: have played NFL football. Now, it's gonna be tough with

1215
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: the fits as far as in the running game and

1216
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: things like that. But also you know that Russ has

1217
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: an ability to avoid pass rush unlike I think any

1218
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league. So but yeah, there's a

1219
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: couple of challenges. And that's the thing. It's funny when

1220
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: you go and you think hey, you should beat this team, right,

1221
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: and then you start digging into their roster and you're like,

1222
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: this guy's good, that guy's good, this guy's good. So yeah,

1223
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: there you go. Dante Fowler is gonna be He's gonna

1224
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: be him and Grady Jarrett up tough thin up in

1225
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: the front of that defense. I think they're gonna be

1226
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: the two probably biggest problems they have. Well, Dave tell

1227
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: me once upon the time, he says, everyone is good

1228
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You just got to have the right combinations.

1229
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see if the Atlanta Hawks have the right combinations.

1230
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, why did you Davey and Clowney

1231
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: no longer a Seahawk. I'll get Dave's thoughts as we

1232
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: go around the NFL. Coming up next on Hawks Live.

1233
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: Hawks Slive every Thursday from seven to nine, live on

1234
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: air on seven Tenny Espncattle. You're listening to Hawks Live

1235
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: from VMACK on Michael Bumpus alone, my guy, Dave Wyman,

1236
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: every Thursday, seven o'clock. We are here on ESPN seven ten. So, Dave,

1237
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: now we go around the NFL, and let's just get

1238
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: this out the way. Clowney going to Tennessee. What are

1239
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, we don't have to talk about

1240
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: him anymore? Boom, No, you know what's gonna happen. We're

1241
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna talk about him if he gets like fifteen sacks.

1242
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, that's gonna come up. Because what's this high,

1243
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: like nine eight something like that. He's eight or nine.

1244
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: You know he had three last year, So you know

1245
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: that that whole thing was really weird. I just thought

1246
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: the way they ended that that it was going to be.

1247
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's he wants to come back here, he

1248
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: wants to be with a winner. I think the Seahawks

1249
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: appreciated that he played through an injury, played through his

1250
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, sports hernia, and all the all of his

1251
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: teammates liked him, and I just thought it was gonna

1252
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: be one of those things they could work out and

1253
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: just couldn't. So it seems like he could have he

1254
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: could have done a little bit better. I feel kind

1255
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: of bad for jadeveon Cloud because with now he signed

1256
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: a one year deal with Tennessee. Now they got a chance. Look,

1257
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: that's a good team, well coached. He likes Mike Rabel,

1258
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: the head coach. But you know, next year the salary

1259
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: cap may go down, and so for a guy like that,

1260
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: it may actually you know, hurt him. He may get

1261
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Speaker 1: like some bad luck that there's not money available, and

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01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 1: so it's just, you know, it's funny how some guys

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Speaker 1: get paid based on a really you know, the timing

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Speaker 1: of you know what's happened. And you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the guys I've looked at, like Matthew Stafford, like he

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: got drafted right before they put the salary cap on

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: the rookie guys, million guarantees something crazy like that, right,

1268
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: and so and then now you know, he's reaping the

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: benefits of the new CPA and everything. And then some

1270
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: guys get unlucky, and I think Jadavian Clowney falls in

1271
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Speaker 1: that category. He does, And I want to remind people.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, it would be lovely to have him

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Speaker 1: on this team, But end of the day, this is

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: a business, and sometimes business deals don't go the way

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: you wanted to. Sometimes they go better than you think,

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01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: sometimes they go worse than you think. And he put

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Speaker 1: himself in a position to where he felt like he

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: had leverage, so he held out, and unfortunately it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out the way he wanted to. It didn't work

1280
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: out the way the Hawks wanted to. But he's employed.

1281
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: He's got a one year deal and he'll have a

1282
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: chance to make more money along the line. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens with Jadeveon Clowney. All right, So now the

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: real question, Dave. Now, the Hawks have had a chance

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01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: to win this division a couple of years and fell short.

1286
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: Is this the year? Have they done enough to be

1287
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: better than the San Francisco forty nine ers and win

1288
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: this division? Well? I think so. And you know, the

1289
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Speaker 1: other day I was doing my prediction and I have

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Speaker 1: him at thirteen and three, okay, And I don't think

1291
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Speaker 1: I've ever predicted the Seahawks to be that high. Now.

1292
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I'm cooped up in my house because

1293
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen and I'm going crazy, But the things

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01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing out on the field, and you know,

1295
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: I'd ask you this, you know, I pose this question

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Speaker 1: of Seahawk fans. I mean, would you take Jadeveon Clowney

1297
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Speaker 1: or or Jamal Adams? So to me, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: clear to me Jamal a yea yeah. The safety, the

1299
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: safety play in this defense is really important. We saw

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: that last year firsthand with Quandre Diggs. We talked to

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: him today on the huddle. I love Quandre Diggs. Yeah,

1302
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, we brought up the weather up here. He goes, yeah,

1303
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: it's gloomy, but so am I I'm gloomy. I love

1304
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: that about him. But yeah, also he's bringing back the

1305
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: word dope, dope back from the nineties. Yeah, back when

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: I thought I was cool. Yeah, so he said it's

1307
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: dope up here. But you know, I love the way that.

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean he proved that. Look, once the safety play improved,

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01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: that we started getting turnovers and you know, the corners

1310
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: felt better and everything. So Jamal Adams and don't sleep

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: on Quandry Diggs. I mean, he may end up having

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01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: just as good of a year as Jamal Adams, but yeah,

1313
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: I will take him. I will take safety play over

1314
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: pass rush anytime. This defense here in Seattle over the

1315
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: years has not been about ridiculous sack totals. You know,

1316
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: you look at Pittsburgh and they'll get fifty five in

1317
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: the high fifties. Sometimes. I mean it's Buffalo. I remember

1318
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: one year they had like fifty eight sacks. I mean,

1319
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: the Seas are always about forty, But it's about takeaways

1320
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: and that's the most important thing in playing defense. That's

1321
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: the point. It's not to stop the other team and

1322
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: make them punt, it's to take the ball away. And

1323
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: so during the stretch where Quandry Diggs came in and

1324
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: played really well, they had sixteen of their thirty two

1325
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: takeaways in a five game stretch where he was playing well,

1326
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: and he was a big part of all of those.

1327
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: So that, to me is the big thing, and that

1328
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: kind of puts the whole clowney thing to rest for me.

1329
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: But it also makes me really positive and think that

1330
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: this defense is gonna be much improved. And this was

1331
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: the number nine offense scoring wise last year. If they

1332
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: can just stay healthy, Bump, that's the thing I think

1333
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: killed him, Disley and Carson, those two players. Can you

1334
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: imagine if they had those guys late in the season Disley, Carson,

1335
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks was banged up later on in the season.

1336
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: There are a lot and I think that if they

1337
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent healthy, which how many teams are

1338
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: that late in the season, I think they have a chance.

1339
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: So we focus on the Northwest, Let's go to the northeast. Now,

1340
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: this is an interesting relationship to me, Cam Newton and

1341
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I'm like, how is this gonna work? Cam

1342
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: is just the complete opposite of Bill. I've seen video

1343
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: of him dance in that practice. I'm like, this Bill

1344
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: even allowed dancing at practice, Like, what's going on here?

1345
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: How do you think that relationship is gonna work? My opinion,

1346
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: I think that Cam's gonna give Bill something he needs

1347
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: and Bill is gonna give Cam something he needs. I

1348
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: think we're gonna find out a lot about both of

1349
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: those guys. You know, I've I've been somewhat critical of

1350
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, not his skills, but just sort of his leadership. Yeah,

1351
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's been kind of a powder at times.

1352
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: So and then, you know, I think with Belichick, and

1353
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: we heard it from Philip Dorset earlier that you know,

1354
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: he's not as bad as everybody thinks Bill Belichick. So

1355
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: but I saw that same thing. I thought it was

1356
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: so funny because you know, you see a picture of

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01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick scowling with his cutoff, you know, hoodie, and

1358
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: then you see Cam Newton doing some weird dance during

1359
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: stretching or whatever. So but I think they're it sounds

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're gonna get along and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see We're gonna see them in a week two. I

1362
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: think it'll be really interesting to see not only that,

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Speaker 1: but also what Brady does down in Tampa. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is more interesting? Brady in Tampa

1365
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: or Belichick with Cam Newton in New England? Man, I

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Speaker 1: I gotta go with Belichick with Cam because Belichick had

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: probably the most straight edged square I'm going to where

1368
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: this certain type of pajamas, I'm going to eat this

1369
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: like just he had just a different type of dude

1370
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Speaker 1: to were I feel like Cam Newton is more of

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: a modern type quarterback to where he has different interests.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't think Cam's on the

1373
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: golf course, you know. I don't think he's at the

1374
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: country club for Lynch. So Bill's gonna be exposed to

1375
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: some different things. I think when Tom goes to Tampa Bay,

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: everyone conforms to Tom to where as Bill and Kim

1377
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: have to kind of mesh to make this thing work.

1378
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know, what do you think what's more?

1379
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: What's more interesting to you? I want to see if

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: Brady is really that great. I like that, yeah, because

1381
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got some weapons down there. I like

1382
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: certain pieces on their defense. I mean, I think it's

1383
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: overblown thinking that they're all of a sudden gonna go

1384
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl just because Tom Brady showed up.

1385
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: But I think that's that's pretty interesting. Look Bill Belichick,

1386
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: I read his book, Education of a Coach. I would

1387
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: recommend it was written by David Halberstam, and it's a

1388
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 1: really well done and it'll make you like Bill Belichick.

1389
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: It'll actually make you like him. So yeah, that that's

1390
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: a good story though, And that mean we're gonna get

1391
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: a We're not playing Tampa this year, but we're gonna

1392
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: get New England and see what that's like in h

1393
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: is it week two or three? I think they come here,

1394
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: come back in Week two? Yeah, first home game? All right?

1395
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: Real quick? MVP? Is Russell in the running? Does he

1396
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: get a vote this year? He's never got a vote?

1397
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: How do you feel about resident MVP? Well, I just

1398
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: don't think he's made for that. Like all of these

1399
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: records that we talk about, russ is a lifetime achievement guy.

1400
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna go on the Pro the Pro

1401
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. He is one of those guys

1402
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: that you're gonna look back and go, oh my gosh,

1403
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: look at the wins, look at what he has done,

1404
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: and that really is all that matters to him. But

1405
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's going to be able to

1406
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: put up the flashy numbers. Yeah, so, I mean, he can,

1407
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna do it in this offense.

1408
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: But I like at least that people in the national

1409
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: sense are start to recognize it a little better about

1410
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't notice it until now. Now

1411
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: they're jumping on the bandwagon. But at least they're not

1412
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: saying he's too short anymore, so, which was just ridiculous.

1413
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I felt like he's I don't think that's

1414
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: his destiny. I don't think he's destined for that. But

1415
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: he's destined for wins. He's destined for wins. All right.

1416
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll give you our final thoughts and

1417
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: the Seahawks Keys to victory right here on Hawkslide, Michael

1418
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: Bumps Dave Winman Hawks Slide every Thursday from seven to

1419
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: nine live on air on seven Jenny ESPN Shattle Hawk

1420
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: Slide from vMac on Michael Bumbas along with Dave Winman

1421
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: every Thursday. We're here on ESPN seven ten at seven.

1422
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 1: It's the first weekday. This is really happening. I'm so excited.

1423
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: I was close to thing thinking that this wasn't gonna happen,

1424
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: that the football season might not happen. But we're here,

1425
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: We're ready to go. So final thoughts, what do the

1426
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: Hawks need to do to get this win on Sunday? Me?

1427
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons average eighty five yards of rushing

1428
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: last year, you add Todd Gurley, They're probably going to

1429
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: exceed that this year. I think if you keep Todd

1430
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: Gurley under a hundred and keep Julio Joe's around a hundred,

1431
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: you have a legit chance to win this game. What

1432
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? That's a good I mean, look

1433
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: on defense, you always you always start with stop the

1434
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: run first. Yeah you know so, but yeah, I just

1435
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so in. I keep sitting there checking myself, going,

1436
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: am I just buying into the hype or just what

1437
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: I've seen? And is it because I've only watched the

1438
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: Seahawk practices and I haven't seen But I just I

1439
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: really like this roster. I really like who they have

1440
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: gone and gotten. Just kudos to Schneider for you know,

1441
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: making the moves that he has to get a guy

1442
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: like Jamal Adams, and I never even thought about a

1443
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: move like that. Jay Keeps is actually the guy that

1444
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: brought it up. You know, they brought up the Jamal

1445
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: Adams straight Yeah. Wow, absolutely. He was like, yeah, I

1446
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: guess he's he's not happy there. And and you know

1447
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: how guys are now, I mean they some of them

1448
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: are friends and you know they're texting each other and everything.

1449
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for the season. I like I

1450
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: said on the you know, it's funny the other day

1451
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: I predicted they were gonna be thirteen to three, and uh,

1452
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: every show was like listen to what Wyman said, like

1453
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy man or something. Maybe I am. Maybe

1454
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: I am, but usually I'm pretty conservative and think, hey,

1455
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: hopefully on the upside they can be that. But I

1456
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: just I feel like it's funny. We put together a

1457
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: top twenty who are the top twenty Seahawks this year?

1458
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: And I went, you know with I went with of

1459
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: course Russell, it's number one. I put Jamal Adams as

1460
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: number two, and usually I would put Bobby Wag near that. Yeah,

1461
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: and I put Bobby at three, but number four was

1462
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: Chris Carson and number five was Will Disley. So those

1463
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: two guys, I think are were so important last year.

1464
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: So think about this man. Last year with a decimated

1465
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: running back corps and no real tight I mean, the

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: tight end situation wasn't great. You had Hollister who came

1467
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: in and did well, did really well, but he's more

1468
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: like a receiver than anything. They were one foot away

1469
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: from winning the NFC West. So and that's the team

1470
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: that went to the Super Bowl, the Niners. So you know,

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: I feel like they match up well against the forty

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 1: nine ers. It's gonna be health health on the offensive

1473
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: side and then defensive side. Jamal Adams being what we've

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: seen out here at practice. I'm telling you, Bump, I

1475
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: have never seen a guy practice better than Jamal Adams.

1476
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: Never seen it, I mean. And the thing I love

1477
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,839
Speaker 1: about it too, is they're going through, they're not tackling

1478
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: to the ground. But when he gets back there and

1479
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, touches a guy like I'm gonna tackle you,

1480
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: he makes sure everybody knows about it, and he's yelling

1481
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: and screaming and he's creating lots of lots of juice

1482
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: out there, so I've I just think they're gonna be

1483
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: much improved from last year. They were eleven and five

1484
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: last year. That's that's what gets to me, Like, I

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01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: look at this team, they are definitely better than last

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: year's team, and that team was eleven and five. With

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: all the injuries, with all the things they went through,

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: they were eleven and five. So everything in me wants

1489
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: to agree with you in say thirteen, but I'm gonna

1490
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: go safe in say twelve wins. I'm gonna say twelve

1491
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: pretty goods. It gets you in the playoffs, it might

1492
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: win the division. I think they're getting better there. I

1493
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: think they're better than the forty nine ers on paper

1494
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: right now. But the thing is paper is paper. Paper

1495
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: doesn't line up in play ball games. You still have

1496
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: to go out there and get it done. M I

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: think for them to go down to Atlanta, they have

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: to become a tight team. I think they already are

1499
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: a tight team. But the tightest teams, the tightest organizations,

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: I feel, are gonna have the most success this year

1501
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: because you can't feed off the crowd. It's really you

1502
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: and yours against them and theirs, and I will take

1503
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks against anybody when that's the situation, especially because

1504
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: you look at these guys, they love being out here.

1505
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: I've been in training camps. We were four and twelve

1506
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: when I played, and no one liked being out in

1507
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: training camp. No one likes hanging out. Yeah, two or

1508
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: three guys who hung out. But these guys, it's just

1509
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: a different feel out here. It feels like a winning

1510
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: team right. Well. And the other thing too is I

1511
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you got this that feeling, but when

1512
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: you went on the road, Yeah, that's like that's a

1513
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: bonding moment because not only you know that playing right home,

1514
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh isn't it great? Yeah? Probably that you spend time

1515
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: on the bus with your guys. You spend time on

1516
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: the plane like a home when everybody splits and goes

1517
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: their different ways, right, and maybe a few guys get together.

1518
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: But that's the thing I love about the road wins.

1519
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: So this one would really help sort of geel these guys.

1520
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: Plus you know, they've been through some stuff this year.

1521
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, they had the practice that they sat out

1522
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: of them and they had a big meeting about that.

1523
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: I feel like they've they've really come together as a team.

1524
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: And and you listen to guys like Philip Door said,

1525
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: who we talked to tonight, you know, they feel like

1526
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: this is a really good close team. That stuff matters.

1527
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: It totally does, because if you care about your teammates

1528
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: and care about them more than you care about yourself,

1529
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna work for you. So I think a lot

1530
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: of people think it's corny. You know, kay, can the

1531
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: guy run a forty? Can he do this and that?

1532
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: But if you have guys that are close and care

1533
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: about each other, that makes a huge difference. So it's real.

1534
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: It's a yeah, it's a well put together team. From

1535
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: that regard to I would I would encourage people to

1536
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: think about your four best friends. When you guys get together,

1537
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: it just flows right, everything's good, it's in motion. You're

1538
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: bringing someone else into the groove. It still flows a bit,

1539
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: but it's a little off. And that's the feeling that

1540
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: these guys have right now, is that everyone's together and

1541
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: it flows and they're talented. I'm sure there are close

1542
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: teams who were garbage, just aren't very good team, but

1543
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: they're close. I was on a two and fourteen team.

1544
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: We were really really close. But you have to be talented.

1545
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: Would you add the talent to the closeness, and then

1546
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: you have Pete Carroll leading the charge. I mean he

1547
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: is one of the most player coaches I've ever been around. Now,

1548
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I committed to USC

1549
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: just because a Pete Carroll on the way he treated

1550
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: his players. End up going to Wazoo. But his relationship

1551
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: with his players alone made me believe in what he

1552
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: was doing. So I think they're heading on the right track.

1553
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be nice. Now they've only won

1554
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: one game on the road for a home opener under

1555
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, So there's another challenge. Are they talking about

1556
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: that in the locker room? Do you think? Well, I

1557
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: don't see how just because you know last year, I

1558
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: mean there were seven and one on the road last year,

1559
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 1: the only game they lost was one of the shorter trips.

1560
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: It was down to LA and so that became kind

1561
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: of a thing last year, like they got kind of

1562
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder about that. And then you

1563
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: know when you talk about that, like I was in Denver,

1564
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have won that game, you know

1565
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: when in twenty and eighteen. I mean, those are just

1566
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: things that get said. That's not a real thing. I'm sorry.

1567
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: You know you haven't won this many. You know you

1568
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: could easily say, well, they're due to win one. I mean,

1569
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: come on that that kind of stuff. Every team has

1570
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: a totally different feel, a different personality. And I feel

1571
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: like this team is going to have a really good vibe.

1572
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody gets together. Everything you talk to,

1573
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: it's a good group of guys. They want to win.

1574
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look at their leader, Russell Wilson. We're talking

1575
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: about MVP and all that stuff. Yeah, he doesn't care

1576
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: about that. He really doesn't. You think he doesn't care

1577
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: about it. I really do, I really do. You don't

1578
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: think he lays down pillow talk with WiFi and say, baby,

1579
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: I want his MVP. I don't. I really don't think so.

1580
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: I think he's like that would be nice, but I

1581
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: want to win. Yeah. And I try to trip him

1582
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: up all the time, Russell, And I'm always like, dang it,

1583
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: I thought I would get him this time, Like, Russ,

1584
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: what's the most important thing to you? You know, you know,

1585
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: lack of interceptions. I mean, try to distract him a

1586
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: little bit. It's like, I want to win. I'm like, okay,

1587
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: I believe you man. Yeah, And it's not phony. It's

1588
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: definitely not so Yeah. I mean I think it's one

1589
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: of those things. Yeah, that would be nice. And I

1590
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: like getting respected everything. But you know this, Michael I

1591
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: NFL players, I was this way too. You like being disrespected.

1592
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: I want to be disrespected. When I went to Denver,

1593
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: people were talking about, oh, what are you? You're from Seattle?

1594
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: Who are you? And I was getting some you know,

1595
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: heat from guys. It's from the paper, and I'm like, okay,

1596
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead and underestimate me. So I just think, yeah,

1597
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: I hope that that that continues to just motivate Russ.

1598
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: And you know, that's not what he's about. He is

1599
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: all about um winning, and you know, I just feel

1600
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: like what I've seen, there's no doubt in my mind

1601
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: that if this defense had stopped Green Bay last year, Yeah,

1602
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: it probably would have had to been like a seventy

1603
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: five yard play or drive. I feel like Russ was

1604
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna drive the ball down the field and win that

1605
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: game for us, Yeah, if he, if he had the opportunity,

1606
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. That's and that's tough

1607
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: to say. Now. I believe you. I believe you, Dave well,

1608
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: hey all right. Week one, first session is in the books.

1609
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm Michael Bumps Fast, Dave Wyman. Big ups to our

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01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,600
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1611
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: Orlando leave Better for joining us, John Clayton as well.

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