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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. First of all, I am staring

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Speaker 1: A whale breached. Now I always thought when you said breached,

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Speaker 1: You know, we go down there and it's lovely. But

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Speaker 1: Some people had some questions, they are leaving it on

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Speaker 1: my TikTok, and most people were very supportive. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: it isn't it? It really is we have a great,

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Speaker 1: great show today. We have Margaret Show, one of my

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Speaker 1: I got to know her when I left the View.

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Speaker 1: called Cindy Lauper and said, you know, it's a kind

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Speaker 1: and Cyndi Lauper was the person who put it all

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Speaker 1: And that's when I got to hang out with Margaret

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Speaker 1: I'd see her off stage watching me behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: questions today as well. This is Onward with Rosie O'Donnell

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Speaker 1: and hey, everybody, that's the only option onward people, So

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Speaker 1: everybody enjoy it. Margaret Shoe, it's all me. There you

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Speaker 1: are with your cute little haircut. I love your bangs, Margaret.

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Speaker 3: Show, You're so lovely. How are you good? I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen you in forever. It's been way too long since.

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Speaker 3: We had so much fun on tour for true Colors.

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Speaker 1: Come on. That is a part of my favorite show

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Speaker 1: biz memory is being on tour with you and Cyndy Laarper.

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Speaker 3: Come on, we had the best time.

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Speaker 1: We got in the bus. We got in the bus.

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Speaker 1: Remember how much fun we had in the bus.

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Speaker 3: The bus was super fun. Remember when we got kicked

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Speaker 1: For smoking a little pot in there?

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Speaker 3: It was really it was a really yeah. We had

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Speaker 1: But b fifty twos yess were amazing.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's there.

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Speaker 1: Remember Joan arm Remember.

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Speaker 3: Yes she was.

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Speaker 1: She was so funny.

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Speaker 3: She only wanted to talk about childhood truck. But she

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Speaker 3: Plus it's super expensive, but I think it's so fun.

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Speaker 3: o honey, like I It wasn't that I was suicidal.

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Speaker 1: Right, we shouldn't have littered right in a tree. You

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Speaker 1: More to come stick around, won't you. I hope this

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Speaker 3: love we love to dan Selina. So they're like, no,

435
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: I cannot go back to So they're going to stay

436
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: on the cruise for as long as I can. They were,

437
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: They're on there for like a month.

438
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Oh really, you guys overstay. You're welcomes in the Chow family, right,

439
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: you go, you go to rehab for a year, nine

440
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: months and your mom's forever.

441
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: They wanted to move in with me at rehab. They're like,

442
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: do we have to go? Is it like prison? Is

443
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: it like prison? Do we can we go with you?

444
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: Because in Korea when you have some mental problems, they

445
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: go as a family to like a nice place that

446
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: you all work it out together. That's what that they

447
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: did in my family. It's like other people in my

448
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: family have gone to like facility that my mom's sister

449
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 3: went with her daughter to the facility together.

450
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting with a lot of my

451
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: stuff with Chelsea, I was looking and begging for a

452
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: place where we could go together because so much stuff alone,

453
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, with with our relationship and the complications of

454
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: brain chemistry, and you know, there was no way for

455
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: us to sort of do it as a family. There

456
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of wasn't a way of a mother daughter retreat

457
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: for substance abuse. Sorry, you know, like to try to

458
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: help her in a way that I haven't been able

459
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: to yet.

460
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I think it's definitely a good idea.

461
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: Part of it though, is like you do want to

462
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: be away from your family so that you can just

463
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: heals as alone, but there's got to be places where

464
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: you can go together. I know that there's stuff kind

465
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: of like things that people go to treatment when somebody

466
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: in the family has a problem with drugs or alcohol,

467
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: so they go away and then other family members go

468
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: to another facility together to heal.

469
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so I've.

470
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: Seen that before.

471
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: I've seen that as well, and you know, an alan

472
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: on to me has been very very helpful, and you know,

473
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: dealing with family members that have addiction issues in that

474
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: degree where it's incapacitating and ruining their their life. They're

475
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: unable to make healthy choices that protect themselves, and it's

476
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: a terrifying place to be in As a parent. I

477
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: could tell you that did your parents know that you

478
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: were in such bad shape when when the intervention was happening?

479
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: Were they included in the intervention?

480
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 3: They really didn't understand. They really didn't understand because and

481
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: they were not a part of it because they just

482
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: didn't really know how the extent of it because I

483
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: was able to hide that. Also, there's just kind of

484
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 3: like this thing of well, you know, she's the oldest

485
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: and she's successful, so she knows what she's doing.

486
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: You know.

487
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: They kind of put that on me too a little bit,

488
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: like I'm like the not degenderate, but I'm like the

489
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: firstborn son, right right, so you know, so that that's

490
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: kind of the way that like go, oh, she's got

491
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: she's got it, And they I think they really rely

492
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: on this idea that I haven't handled. So it's hard

493
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: for them. But they really wanted to come and like

494
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: live at the rehab with me.

495
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 4: Wow, they were like we were It's so nice damn horse.

496
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Nice.

497
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: They really thought it was nice.

498
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: When did they turn the rock Hudson estate into a rehab?

499
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: How did that occur?

500
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly when that happened, but I know

501
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: that it's been functioning like that for quite some time. So,

502
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: but it's very fancy, and uh, it's I mean, all

503
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: of these sort of big estates, you know, they they

504
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: they have like usually are in Malibu, but this one

505
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: is on Mulholland.

506
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: And and it was random that you ended up there.

507
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: It was just sort of or someone had done research

508
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: and said this could be the right one.

509
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: Or yeah, I think it was somehow random. And then

510
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: they just had a space and it was also just

511
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: a nice place, So that was like kind of part

512
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: of the attraction was that it was just so lovely.

513
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: And I think it's and it seemed more like a

514
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: vacation than it was like rehab or whatever. But it

515
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: was really the best thing, one of the best things

516
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: that I've ever done in my life.

517
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: Definitely. Well, this may be a simplistic question, but if

518
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: you could name like the top three ways your life

519
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: has changed in the last seven years since going there,

520
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what would it be.

521
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: Oh, it's unbelievable the difference. I mean, it's another person's life.

522
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm just I have peace, I have joy, I have freedom.

523
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm just relaxed. And I don't have to do anything,

524
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: like I don't have to like go get anything. I

525
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: don't have to I mean the food, which is another issue,

526
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: but that's okay, that's kind of like whatever. But I

527
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: I just I have such an easy time of life

528
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: and I don't engage in any behaviorists that are negative.

529
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: I have like a really beautiful existence. So it's like

530
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: the top three I think is peace, comfort, and just

531
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: that I can naturally relax. Like I used to think, like, oh,

532
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: after a long day of traveling and doing shows or

533
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: working on something, I would need a reward. So now

534
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 3: actually my reward is I have a VR headset, and

535
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: I do I'll either go to a museum on the

536
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: VR heads or I'll do a meditation, or I'll do

537
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: like just weird sort of patterns. Not so much games.

538
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: I think games are a little bit too exciting, So

539
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: but I can do that at times. Right, sometimes I'll

540
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: write a roller coaster on the V right.

541
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Right, I have the VR too with my little daughter

542
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: and she tries to play it's really fun. She tries

543
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: to play me different games, but you know, it's funny.

544
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get a little dizzy in there, like I

545
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: get a little like, yeah, it's.

546
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: Kind of where are we? You know, I get motion sickness,

547
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: and then I want to turn around.

548
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

549
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: There's a really fun one where you can like go

550
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: doe to doe with penny Wise. Those penny Wise it's

551
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: really scary. There's one that's like where you're with the

552
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: Girl with the Ring. Yeah, it's really good. The girl

553
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: with the name of it, The Girl with the Ring. No, No,

554
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: it's the Japanese horror movie The Ring. Yes, and she's

555
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: like coming out of the TV. Oh, and then she's

556
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: running going around the ring.

557
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: That would be good for me. That would be good

558
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: for me. I don't like to move scary. So you're

559
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: going on tour. You're on tour right now? Yes, yes,

560
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: that I am on tour. So exciting and this would

561
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: this be your first really big tour completely sober.

562
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Well, I have been on the road a bit and

563
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: and then of course the pandemic happened, so yes, I

564
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: guess yes in a sense. But also I have been

565
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: like performing consistently throughout which is great. So this is

566
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: like all kind of like a big theaters thing. I've

567
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: done some clubs, but this is my first big tour

568
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: in like probably seven years, yeah or something like that.

569
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: And you have all new material or you have some

570
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: of the yes, and it's so hard to come up

571
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: with a whole. But when you're in a new place

572
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: like you are and spiritually and mentally, I assume it's

573
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: much easier to do. You have so much to draw from.

574
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's a new life. It's a new perspective on things.

575
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: And I'm really grateful for that. And I could remember

576
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: more stuff now like that I went through and it's

577
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: fun to share that. Also, there's a lot of things

578
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: to talk about. I mean, the show is really all

579
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: about how can we protect drag queens, how can we

580
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: protect the trance community, how can we like fight this.

581
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: I was so glad that the Proud Boys got their

582
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: ass beat in Manhattan. Yes, they're trying to attack this

583
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: drag story, are well they got beat up, which is

584
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: so satisfied.

585
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally understand what's happening in our co with

586
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: gay rights, queer rights, with women's rights, with minorities rights.

587
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: What's happened to all of the Asian people attacked. And

588
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: I know that that was your podcast was so educational

589
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: about all that, Margaret, And I imagine the rage and

590
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: the fear and the horror of that for Asian people

591
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: all over the country.

592
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's so scary. It happened to me. I was

593
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: in Miami and I was walking my dog with my

594
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: mask on, and I ran into a convoy of about

595
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: fifty giant semi truck, huge trucks, all flying the China virus,

596
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: kung flu, no clot shot, you know, protect the children,

597
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: all that shit, right, And they were coming at me

598
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: and my little dog, and with my mask on, I'm like,

599
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: they're coming from me. I'm the only one on the street.

600
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: They're honking their horns at me. One of the trucks

601
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: tried to drive us, like run over us, and I

602
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: tried to get my phone out to take a picture

603
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: of the license plate. They'd all covered their license plates.

604
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 3: It was like really scared. I mean, it was like

605
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: med Max or something, because it was all these giant

606
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: trucks and all flying this Trump twenty twenty four flag,

607
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: like what that It's so like, stop the steel flags.

608
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: I was really scared. And then this is the dog

609
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: to this little baby?

610
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: Is that what she mixed mix?

611
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a door a little CHUAA.

612
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: That's horrifying. What did you do? Did you run to

613
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: the police station? What'd you do?

614
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do. I was like, how

615
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: do I? I? They they didn't hit us, and they

616
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: drove off, and then I'm like what, I don't even

617
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: know what to do? Like I just was shaking. I

618
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: didn't know if I couldn't. I really couldn't think, you know,

619
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: I was so filled with adrenaline.

620
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Yes, terrifying.

621
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: I just didn't know what to do, and I couldn't

622
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: shut it down for like a long time. And I

623
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: really didn't know, like, well, nothing exactly happened, did it? Yes,

624
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: it doesn't do, but it did also nothing that wasn't

625
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: heard physically. So it was very like, should I call

626
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: the guy? I don't know what did I'm not sure?

627
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Like it was very weird.

628
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's horrible, what's been happening? And you know, there

629
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: was this you probably know about this older Asian woman

630
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: who was just like standing there minding her own business,

631
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: going into her apartment and then there's the video and

632
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: then they show the video. You know, like they show

633
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: the aggression and the hatred, and doesn't that perpetrate it?

634
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, can you report on it without having to

635
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: show elderly Asian people being bloody? So horrible, it's horrible,

636
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: and I blame that all on Trump. That was him, Yeah,

637
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: the China Irish Oh, that was him, right, Yes.

638
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: It is, it is And it's just like I think

639
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: the way that he brought in this mindset where you

640
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: can dehumanize people with a joke and then it leads

641
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: to that, but he takes no responsibility for it, right.

642
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: I really do hope he gets arrested. I also think

643
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: that if this does happen, it's great because this is

644
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: this is great for Stormy Daniels. I love Stormy.

645
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I love Stormy too. I'm a fan of Stormy. I

646
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: met her.

647
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: She's a great person. Yeah, I've met her. I'm really

648
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm just I think she's super cool.

649
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

650
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: I think it's really exciting that she was able to

651
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: take this on. Like, how great to be his undoing.

652
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I agree that. So it's fabulous. And Leticia James uh

653
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: in New York, I think, how amazing that this African

654
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: American woman is going to take down this racist piece

655
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: of ship.

656
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: I love it, Yeah, I love it. It's really it's

657
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: really justice.

658
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: It's so weird how the world has changed since we

659
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: were kids. And I tried to explain to my children

660
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: always of our parents letting us out until the lights

661
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: went on the street and then come home and nobody

662
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: asked where we were, what we were doing, were we safe,

663
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: who were we with? You know, it's just a different

664
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: reality now, and how much the children are connected to

665
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: their devices and that that's part of their reality of

666
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: living now, like it doesn't go without their social media,

667
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: you know. For a while, my daughter Vivi, who's you know,

668
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: very pretty in a stereotypical American way, blond, blue eyes,

669
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: and she just took her picture all the time, you know,

670
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: and it's part. And then we went to the beach.

671
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: We go to the Jersey Shore every year, and they're

672
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: like thirteen years old and she's twenty now, so it

673
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: was like seven years. I turned and I looked and

674
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: down the beach on LBI were groups of teenagers doing

675
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the same exact thing. Yea, all the yeahs were getting

676
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: together and doing their photoshoots. You know, not everybody got

677
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: a photo shoot when we were younger, right, not everybody

678
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: had accents. Right now, everybody can be their own celebrity

679
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: in their head.

680
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: I love it. I never have any I don't have

681
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: any photos of myself when I was younger. I just

682
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: never took pictures. I didn't like the way that I looked,

683
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: and so I just never thought to take pictures.

684
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just sad. I don't have very many either.

685
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: But you know, my next door neighbor, my best friend's mother,

686
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: has pictures of me, oh, from when I was young,

687
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: Bernice Ellard, who was to take care of the kids

688
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood with no mom, you know. And yeah,

689
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: she's still alive. She's beautiful. She really did raise me

690
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: when my mother passed, and you know, I'm forever indebted

691
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: to her. But I do have some memories of photographic

692
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: memories of my childhood through her. But it wasn't like

693
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: everybody had a cell phone back then and snap away

694
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: like yeah like today. Yeah, So tell everybody where you're

695
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: going on tour, and what the name of it. It's

696
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: it's Live Livid, right, it's live.

697
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: My tour is called Lucia came here, came here. My

698
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: dog is there's a squirrel outside, that's okay. She's telling

699
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: them about my tour.

700
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Exactly, Livid Live and Livid excellent, and it's it's gonna

701
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: be everywhere and uh yeah, everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.

702
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: There's shows everywhere that I can be and it's happening now, right,

703
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: and people can find out about it on margaretow dot

704
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: com actually, or get tickets.

705
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: You've always had wonderful people opening for you, new people,

706
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: people who maybe you're not mainstream. You have anyone lined

707
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: up that is going to open for you consistently.

708
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: Or Daniel Webb is going to be on term with me,

709
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: and he is really so great. Everybody that opens for

710
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 3: me becomes a huge star, like Jonathan Vanes.

711
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Right, like uh Russell Peter right right.

712
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: Like Microbigliah, like there are so many great people. Uh.

713
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: But I've gotten to work with Karen.

714
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: Go Gareff, right, she has like the best podcast on

715
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: the radio now, it's my favorite murder, my favorite murder.

716
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Yes, she's awesome and she's at her own podcast network,

717
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: which is really great.

718
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: All right, give that dog a bone, No, Lucia. I

719
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: love how calm you are to her. Lucia, you don't

720
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: scream it you.

721
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: Because if you're yelling. Then they think you're barking too.

722
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: Oh so, now so if you like kind.

723
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: Of calm, have you always been a dog person? Yes,

724
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: but I have three cats too, and they get along.

725
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: They get along very well. Yeah, it's really cute. It's

726
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: very Disney like. I'm like snow White here.

727
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 3: I have twenty seven bird feeders and there's a wild

728
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: parrots outside in a tree. And then there's a giant

729
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: snake that lives in the backyard, so the animals can't

730
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: go outside by themselves. It's a huge snake.

731
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: Well, can't you get someone to move it somewhere else?

732
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: Well?

733
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: I think it's hibernating now because I haven't seen it

734
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: since the middle of summer. But it's like a gopher snake.

735
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a rattlesnake, and it doesn't

736
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: have ve no. But he's very large. So he's somewhere

737
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: under the deck.

738
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: Maybe. Oh my god, how could you sleep?

739
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: That lives next door?

740
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: A coyote that lives next door.

741
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: There's a coyote that lives next door. Who I had

742
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: to build extra high fences because of my little animals here.

743
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: So you know we're we're not in the woods of course.

744
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: Uh and uh, it's just California. But there's a lot

745
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 3: of animals here.

746
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of animals. Dakota wants to get

747
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: one when we move into our house. We're moving to

748
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, So now, yeah, nice. So we're gonna stay

749
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: out here while she goes to school in Culver City.

750
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: They have a great school for kids with autism. And

751
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: she's there and loving it, and so here we are,

752
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, sixty one. I'm old and I'm happy, but

753
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm happy about it.

754
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: I love it. I love you on TikTok.

755
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, honey. I'm very obsessed with that. It's so

756
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: fun to me. I love doing and it's so fun,

757
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: really fun.

758
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: And I love your pictures with Dylan.

759
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I just met Dylan and she was amazing, goorgeous.

760
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: She really is. And she does looks like Audrey Hepburn

761
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: and like the Jet Stars from that error.

762
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: You know, she's it's very like Leslie Corone. It's very

763
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: gigies like. Her esthetic is kind of like a French coquette, yes,

764
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: which I think is so lovely.

765
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's really something. I had a wonderful conversation.

766
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: But listen, I want to tell you, first of all,

767
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: you've never looked better, Margaret. I went through and saw

768
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: all these great photos of you with your stomach tattoos

769
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: showing and your hair like this, and I thought, look

770
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: at how fantastic she looks. Not that that's the be

771
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: all end all of life. But I'm just letting you

772
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: know you look fucking great.

773
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: Thank you.

774
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: You're more than one.

775
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think aging is so fun. Aging is fun,

776
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: isn't it. Yeah, we look great, we look great. I

777
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: am very happy with being sixty one. Like I don't

778
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: have any angst about people knowing and you know, trying

779
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: to look different or you know, younger, or you know.

780
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: I did botox once, Margaret, and I swear to you,

781
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: I felt like I had duct tape on my forehead

782
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: for two months.

783
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't even exist. Every day I was like trying

784
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: to get it out. I was like pushing my forehead

785
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: as hard as like. It was the worst experience I

786
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. And I will never do

787
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: it again.

788
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Oh it's so weird. Yeah, I've never I've never done that.

789
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: I've only done the G shot where I had collagen

790
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: put in my uh, the spongy tissue around my cervix.

791
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know where your G spot is

792
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: supposed to raise your G spot.

793
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't do it, didn't work for you.

794
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Just made me feel like I had to pee for

795
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: like four months. It was really painful. Actually, Yes, see,

796
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: you and I trying to improve stuff. Look what happens

797
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 3: we get in pain. I had duct tape head for

798
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: so long. If it ain't broke, if it ain't broke,

799
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: don't think I have a G I don't think I

800
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: have a G spot, which i've like, and when it

801
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 3: came to realize, I just don't like dick.

802
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I can fully understand, honey. I'm on with

803
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: you on that side of the of the FEDS, please,

804
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: but I like it. I'm happy with who I am

805
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's the best part of aging,

806
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: the best part of aging.

807
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: You know, that's right, true, true, true.

808
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Well listen your delight, Margaret Show. I can't wait to

809
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: see you on tour. I'm gonna come catch you. I

810
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: saw you were at the improv somewhere right close by

811
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: here in San Diego, aren't you? Oh and Bray? Yeah yeah, yes, Kyle,

812
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: I want to come see you. I would love to

813
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: see you and give you a big hug in real life. Yes,

814
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: So go check check out on Margaret Show's website and

815
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: where she's going to be, where the tour dates are.

816
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: And it's called Live and Livid, Live and Living, and

817
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a great title. And I love you,

818
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Margaret Schaw and thank you for doing this. I love

819
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: you and I will see you soon, I hope.

820
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Hi.

821
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: All right, bye, honey, We're going to answer some of

822
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: your messages right after this. Well. Thank you all so

823
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: much for writing in your ideas, your suggestions, your comments,

824
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: and the producers have chosen a couple I have not

825
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: heard them yet. It's a surprise to me. Let's see

826
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: what we got. Roll it.

827
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 6: Hi, Rosie. My name is Hannah and I'm from Ontario, Canada.

828
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 6: I want to say how much I love your podcast.

829
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: I loved your show growing up, and one of the

830
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 6: things I love so much is hearing you talk about

831
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 6: being a mother and how much you enjoy motherhood and

832
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 6: the importance of raising your children and valuing your time

833
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 6: with your kids. I really identify with that because I'm

834
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 6: so sentimental about raising my two girls. I just had

835
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 6: my second daughter three months ago, whose name is Jonie,

836
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 6: and I was so happy to hear on your podcast

837
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 6: that you mentioned how one of your favorite guests was

838
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 6: Joni Mitchell, which was an inspiration for our daughter's name.

839
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 6: I'm just wondering if you have any words of wisdom

840
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 6: or kind of tidbits or philosophies that you followed while

841
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 6: raising your children, or things to keep in perspective and

842
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 6: thoughts on motherhood. Maybe you have some wise words to share.

843
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, I'm so happy that you wrote, and

844
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous that you have a three month old baby.

845
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: My advice as a mom would be take a lot

846
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: of pictures, but please get in some with them, because

847
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: you go through and you find you know you're not

848
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: in the photos, and you know, try to stay present

849
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: as much as possible. That's my biggest goal in life

850
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: and in love and learn and mothering. For sure. The

851
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: best mothering tip I ever got was from Winona Judd,

852
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: who was at my house with her two children and

853
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: they were fighting over a toy and she took the

854
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: toy and she put it on top of the bookcase

855
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: and she said that toy is in time out. And

856
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: I thought, what a great rather than put your kid

857
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: in time out and have the toy went in time out.

858
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: So that is my Winona Judd pass along to new

859
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: mother's tip of if they're fighting, put the toy in timeout,

860
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: but listen, enjoy every minute. It goes too fast. Even

861
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: with Dakota now ten years old, I can't believe it.

862
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe I have a twenty seven year old

863
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: son Parker twenty seven, twenty five, twenty three, twenty and ten,

864
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: and I don't regret one moment, not one. Now we

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Speaker 1: got another question coming in.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Hi, Rosie, love the show, Love listening

867
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Speaker 2: to you. I think the reason I love listening to

868
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: as you have so much love in your heart, I think,

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Speaker 2: Whereas I think. I noticed a lot of other commentators

870
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: there's just so much hate in them, and it just

871
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Speaker 2: it makes me depressed. So listen to you is really

872
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Speaker 2: sort of comforting. I was listening to one of the

873
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Speaker 2: other listeners questions and it was about how she had

874
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: so many things she was interested in doing and she

875
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: couldn't pick one creative field and you told her to

876
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: focus on one thing and just give it, give it

877
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: your all. And that made me think, I'm thirty six. Now,

878
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: I did attempt to stand up comedy and different sort

879
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: of creative things, and although I was sort of successful modestly,

880
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: it never really got off the ground. And I'm at

881
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: the age now, I think where I don't think those

882
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: dreams are going to happen. And even though I know

883
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: you're always really positive and tell people go for it,

884
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm at the stage of life now where

885
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like I should lower my expectations

886
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: and that why you end up making me happier. I

887
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: know that's very un American to say that happiness could

888
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: come and lower your expectations, but I feel like not

889
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: everyone is going to be successful in the creative fielding.

890
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: Most people aren't, so like for someone like me who'

891
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: st looking at it like you know, age thirty six,

892
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm what is there an ever a case for sort

893
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: of happily giving up on your dreams? What do you think, Rosie?

894
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: What do you think? What should I do? Should I

895
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: just sort of lower my expectations and be happier or

896
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: should I keep on trying?

897
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Speaker 1: What do you think? You know, honey, that's a beautiful question,

898
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: and I love your accent. I really do. I was

899
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: trying to place it a Scottish is it? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's not Irish, I don't think. But beautiful, beautiful lilt listen,

901
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Speaker 1: thirty six is young, honey, I'm sixty one. Thirty six

902
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: is young. I encourage you to reset that frame right.

903
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: And remember Nora Efron didn't direct her first movie till

904
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: she was like forty or something like that. And you

905
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: know Grandma Moses and paint until her eighties. And there's

906
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: all these stories of people who never really sort of

907
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: give up, but just do what really fulfills and moves them.

908
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Speaker 1: And you know, deciding that, you know, chasing after a big,

909
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Speaker 1: successful life in any field is something that everyone eventually

910
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: has to evaluate. Is that what you want to put

911
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: in that kind of time and money, and what costs

912
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: it costs you, not not financially obviously, but spiritually and emotionally.

913
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Speaker 1: I think that the pandemic has really done us a

914
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: great service in some ways. Of course, all the horrors

915
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: of it, but what it did make people kind of

916
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: know is that you can restructure how you live your

917
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: life where the focus doesn't have to be, as you said,

918
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Speaker 1: such an American dream of success. I think lowering your know,

919
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: if it's standards, I think your dreams, adjusting your dreams

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00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: is more is more accurate, you know. I kind of

921
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: feel that now at sixty one, with doing a podcast,

922
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Speaker 1: which I love what it affords me. It affords me

923
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Speaker 1: time home. I love that I get to talk to

924
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Speaker 1: people and be inspired and watch their movies and read

925
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: their books and get informed about life. I mean, that's

926
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the meaning of life, right, That's what we're supposed to

927
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Speaker 1: explore and love and learn and grow and evolve. So

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Speaker 1: I think if you were certain inside of your soul

929
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Speaker 1: that a career and stand up was for you, there

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: would be no question you'd be out there doing it.

931
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Speaker 1: And the fact that you aren't, and you don't particularly,

932
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: not particularly driven to do that, that's fine. You can

933
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: put that one down and pick up something else, you know.

934
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Speaker 1: But I wish you luck, and I wish you I

935
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: would love to talk to you. Maybe we can get

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Speaker 1: your phone number and we can have a conversation. I

937
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: would love to have a conversation with you about this topic.

938
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I think it would be great to hear back and

939
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: forth what you think. So maybe we'll make that happen.

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Speaker 1: On the next one. Hey, the next one drops on Tuesday.

941
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Speaker 1: Cheetah Rivera drops next Tuesday. I love her. Ninety years old,

942
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Speaker 1: glorious living legend, one of my favorite people on the planet.

943
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Speaker 1: Ninety year old Cheeta Rivera has a new book, a memoir,

944
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Speaker 1: and that's what it's called. Memoir. Cheetah, go get it.

945
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: It's really worth it. The story's in there and we

946
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Speaker 1: get to talk to work here on onward. iHeart podcasts.