WEBVTT - An About Face with Bobbi Brown 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.119 Oh my goodness, just let's just I'll just take a 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.000 ready to breathe. I'm always out of breath when we 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:20.040 start this because we're like constant, constantly moving, and then 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:21.360 we get to sit for a second, it's like, oh, 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.520 we can breathe. Yeah, because I was just like I 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.240 came running in the house, I got a little leo 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.280 and then it's like, because I was just came in 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:36.400 from therapy, Oh, how was that. I'm holding space for 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:43.480 it right, Okay there, um no, but I um oh, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.599 I I just love Amy so much, such a great therapist. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:53.840 You know I'm so emotional, are you? I'm so emotional. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.040 I just I'm on my period. Okay, well let's just 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.720 get that out there. Um. Which is so funny because 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.360 in the earlier days, my twenties, I was never emotional 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:10.720 on my period, and it's switched same. Yeah, I'm like 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.760 a roaring bitch about three nights before yeah, and then 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.240 I'm emotional. Yeah, Like it's yeah. For me, it was 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.200 always like the week before, I'm like, oh, I'm going 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.000 to start my period next week. Because I would just 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:29.080 remember being always agitated and highly bitchy nothing. It's like 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.200 I just got mad about the stupidest thing. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.679 And I remember I'd have to hide my tampons and 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.720 rappers from Mike because I'm like, I don't want him 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.080 to know that was the reason I was being a 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.560 total be No, no, I don't ever never because then 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:48.360 they're like, oh, um, leo, please don't choot that baby, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.240 thank you. Uh yeah, so there was That's that was 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.040 like the first thing I said to Amy today, I go, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.640 I'm really emotional. I said, I'm on my period. I said, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:05.440 but there it's um and I say this, I go, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.600 the emotions aren't sad. She's like interesting, and she I 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.000 was like, it's more of like, um, you know, I'm 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.080 just like I'm around this new journey and I'm finding 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.720 myself and I'm setting really good boundaries and I'm being 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:23.800 more honest. So I was like, I think, just like 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.640 coming into this new version like makes me emotional. I 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.800 love it sweet. And then you know, she's I was like, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.280 I'm I'm like, I'm I'm starting to like who I 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.360 am and I think that. I was like, and that 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.800 makes me emotional, and and then we were just you know, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.600 talking about I was told her about the date that 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:52.440 I went on. Yeah about I mean, you know I'm dating, right, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.239 so I can maybe share stories about it. I don't 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.320 know if you all are interested in hearing stories of 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:06.320 the dating world. I think you should. Um, this is 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.200 probably date, no serious relationships, just like date and have 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.560 some fun. Right well, but I mean, like I feel 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.560 like hawk Girl summer was fun. And Leo, he's going 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.840 to chew the chords, buddy. I've literally this is the 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.679 thing about dogs too. I have five different bones for 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.720 him to choose for to really, but come on, buddy, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.320 I need you to like chill here, there we go. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.280 Let's chew that. I love your sweetheart, but I need 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.959 you to chill up. He's like, Mom, I was just 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:37.440 my great you were therapy talking about your feelings. Whatelings. Um, So, okay, 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.400 we have an amazing guest coming on today. Uh and 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.320 I don't know when she's gonna pop on, So I mean, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.600 should we start tiptoeing in the direction of where the 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.680 emotions are coming from? Oh? Well, I just got a 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:55.440 text saying Bobby Bobby's coming on in one second. So well, guys, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.200 you know I was gonna lean in and I was 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.560 gonna lean in and talk about all this. Uh, maybe 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.040 we'll talk about it after this amazing guest Bobby Brown. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.320 If you don't know who Bobby Brown is, I'm gonna 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.560 need you to go on Sephora dot com or Bobby 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.960 Brown dot com. And um, her makeup is amazing. But 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.880 she started a new podcast and I can always talk 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:25.000 to her because she's a she's a beauty icon in 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.360 in this space, and I just, um, I have her, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.279 I have right here because I'm like this, have you 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.159 ever seen me use a different bronzer than this Bobby 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:38.320 Brown bronzer all the time? Bobby Brown bronzer, the bronzing powder. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.880 I'm in the media shade. But let's take a break 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:59.880 and get her on and talk all things beauty and podcast. Hi. Hi, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:05.680 how are you? I'm so good. I'm Jannah. This is Catherine. Hi. Hi. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.799 Where are you? Guys? So we live in Nashville, Tennessee. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.719 I used to live in l A. Now I live 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:15.599 here in Nashville. Where are you? I'm in montclar New Jersey. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.760 Is that where you're from? It is? No, It's where 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.200 I raised my family. I'm from Chicago, Chicago. Yes, I'm 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.600 from Michigan. Do you know how to play Yuker? No? 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:32.160 I don't. Do you even do know the game? I do? 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.000 I do, but no, I do not play. I don't 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.839 play anything. No, I'm not a player. No. I watched 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.039 my kids play. How old are How old are your kids? 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.360 They're older now? Thirty two, thirty and two. I just 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.480 you know three boys. I just grew up watching them play. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.560 Are we are we? Are we a grandma yet? Or 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.680 we are going to be a grandmother in the end 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:56.560 of September? Oh my goodness. Have you thought about your name? Like? 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:57.800 Do you want to be grandma? Do you want to 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.400 be Nana? Do you want to be g g? Like? 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.159 Would you want to be it would make sense to 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:09.279 be called BB. Love that, Yes, I I love that, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.680 And I have to I have to show you my 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.480 my one. This is like I'm going to geek out 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.840 really fast. This is the Bobby Brown. Do you know 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.760 that that's not the new brand? I am. Yeah, you 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.000 haven't gotten the memo? Come on, no, I love No, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.600 I got the memo. But like I'm saying, like I've 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.920 started on this, So is that the new one that's 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.840 gonna be? Yeah, I'm not I left that company almost 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.000 six years ago. And um, so I don't even know 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.120 what if you didn't buy in the past five or 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.520 six years, I don't know what you got. But this 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.200 is the new brand, which is Jones Road, which is 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.800 a clean brand, and it's it's different, it's very different. Okay. Well, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.960 so because I knew that you sold, because you sold 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.680 Bobby Brown to Stay lott A right right, But I 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.839 stayed twenty two years as an employee. Okay, I was 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.640 there a long time, so left. I launched this brand 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.440 five years after I left. Well, I've been buying this 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:06.360 um bronzing powder since it's um since you started with 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.360 this brand. And let me just tell you, I've never 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.160 cheated on you with my bronzing powder. Um. I mean 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.280 I could possibly now cheat with the new product that 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.640 you have, but I'll try and see you know what 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.240 you like? Is it hard for you to still have 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.000 your name on something that's that you're not now? Okay, Now, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.520 I'm proud of what I did, and you know, I'm 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.840 proud of the experiences I've had, and I'm certainly more 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.080 excited that I am able to do something completely different, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.280 new and fresh and do it my way. Did you 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.240 were you not able to do it your way in 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.920 the beginning with the I'm not going to spend a 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.000 ton of time talking about the past. I kind of 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.000 did that for a while, but you know, when it's 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.440 a big brand and there's a lot of people involved 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.440 in a lot of departments and a lot of you 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.440 know whatever. Yeah, you just it's not like you're totally 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.400 in charge when you as when you first start and 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.320 now I am. I think I'm in charge, I mean. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.400 And then so then you have your new podcast, So 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.360 what is that going to be about them? Tell me 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.280 about the podcast on iHeart Radio Shorts on iHeart Radio, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.760 and it's called The Important Things. And to me, the 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.240 Important Things are is everything from how you live your 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.000 life to who you spend time with, to what you 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.440 do with the time to like how do you buy 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.480 the best T shirt? Too? What do you eat to 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.480 feel good? What do you do to look good? You know? 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.920 And I'm someone who's really curious, and I have really 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.120 great relationships with so many amazing women and that's how 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.200 I've learned so much. So this is just, you know, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.640 a way for people to hear these conversations and they're 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.760 real and they're just they're not scripted, and I don't know. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.560 I just hope everyone loves them because I really enjoyed 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.160 doing them. Have you had have you already started, um 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.920 having interviews and stuff like are you badging some of them? Yeah? 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.160 Now we're actually launching today, so we have I think 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.280 bankrolled about six of them so far. The first one 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.600 which is launching is Giada de Laurentis, and so we 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.240 talked about everything from you know, her being divorced, to 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:18.120 her new boyfriend, her daughter raising a teenager, and of 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.600 course I want to know how she could eat all 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.439 this amazing food and still stay thin. And we talked 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.000 about you know, similarities like our height, and she told 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.000 me about like her favorite genes, and we talked about 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.480 bras because we're both doubt girls, and we talked about 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.480 what works and what doesn't, and um, you know, hopefully 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.600 it's relatable and interesting to people. And my assistance have 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.520 been on and they they're like, oh my god, it 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.760 was so good. So I'm pretty excited. And I also 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:53.719 talked to from Bling Empire Kim and Kelly, so I'm 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.679 kind of go in different directions, like I find people 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.760 really interesting and I just kind of want to know 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.319 who you are, and like are you just naturally always beautiful? 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.360 Like I don't know that much of I'm asking you. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.319 It's like, you know you're so pretty? Have you always 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.680 like I felt pretty? Or have you ever had any 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.400 kind of issues? Like I'm curious about stuff like that. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.680 I mean, I I first of all, I love the 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.640 personality that you have to lean into people and ask questions. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.800 That's why that's something that I, um love as well 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.200 to sit down and be like where are you from? 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.440 Who are like? Who are you? You know? And like 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.480 what is your story? Because I I love hearing people's stories, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.880 and I think that's why I've enjoyed, you know, doing 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.520 my podcast as well as just really hearing people's stories 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.840 and relating and learning because I I want to learn 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.400 from other people. Um but oh man, I mean I 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.160 was no, I mean I don't. I don't feel like 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.959 I The first time I ever feel like I felt 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.000 pretty was when I was pregnant with my daughter. That 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.720 was the first time where I felt like I felt beautiful. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.320 Um but I mean I've had And then I would 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.280 say and I was actually just gotten from therapy and 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.480 I was kind of teasing a little bit of my 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.199 therapy session, and I said, this is the first. I'm 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.600 thirty eight years old. I'll be thirty nine later this year, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.280 and I said, this is the and I again, I'm 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.240 going to preface this. I'm on my period. I'm emotional, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.000 but like this is the first time like I've looked 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.559 in the mirror and I'm like, I like this version 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.240 not because I've you know, yes, I physically feel the 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.440 fittest I've ever been. I you know, I've I feel 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.280 good in my body, but I also it's I feel 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.839 the most emotionally pretty and mentally pretty that I've ever felt. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.200 And so like the the outside like, yeah, I feel 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.920 like i've you know, I know how to maybe do 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.840 my makeup more now, and I know how to you know, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.679 like embrace the you know, the no makeup look. But 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.880 it's because I think what's coming in is the confidence 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.600 is making me feel prettier. Um, and I think it 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.800 was because of years of you know, my divorce and 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.960 the men. And so I'm like, I'm really like loving 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.000 my who I'm becoming. I mean, look, everyone has a story, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.199 You're right, And I guess I sometimes asked the personal 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.480 things because I'm I'm comfortable doing that and talking about it. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.200 I never like to make anyone uncomfortable and put them 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.120 on the spot, but there's all these things like I'm 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.560 sorry Jillian Michael, like do you eat bread? You know, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.680 so it's like like that was the first question, and she, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.360 you know, she started laughing at me, and then we 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.360 started getting into our digestion or my digestion. Hopefully they'll 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.400 cut it out, but no, it's great. I mean Dr 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.160 Oz told us how to have a great poop, you know, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.439 like what it looks like. So it's like, well, it's funny. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.559 I thought of naming the podcast at one point everyone poops, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.680 because I do think everyone is the same and you know, famous, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.400 not famous, old, young, we're kind of very similar. So 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.640 you know, for me, there are so many podcasts out there, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.280 like I just wanted this to be, you know, someone 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.640 hearing a conversation. It's like I get to meet and 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.280 talk to really interesting people, as do you, and I 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:07.000 want people to hear the information is um you know, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.640 as someone who leans in because obviously you lean in, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.640 you want to hear people's story. Is there has there 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.040 ever been something like what what prevents what prevents you 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.640 from leaning in? Like is there something that like you 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:25.640 get uncomfortable with or you shy away from in a topic. Yeah, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.440 you know what, I don't look to hurt people's feelings. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.760 I don't hurt I don't look to out them on something. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:38.000 And you know, people have said a couple weird things 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.280 and you know you have to make a decision do 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.880 you keep them in do not keep them in? Like 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.920 I don't. You know, I'm a caring person more than anything. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.280 So I you know, we all have things that we 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.720 don't want to talk about and that we don't need 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.040 everyone to hear about. So, um, that probably prevents me 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.120 the most, I know. And I could kind of tell 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.120 or I know, and there's things that are pain points 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.520 for people. I'm not trying to un lock this hotbed. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.959 There's other people out there that could, you know, play 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.520 that role. It's not me. Where do you find it 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:11.880 in your life where you kind of struggle leaning in? Um? Well, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.560 I've just started working with a business coach who you 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.679 know is helping me out a lot of things. And 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.480 she's teaching me that, you know what, the words that 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.120 come out of my mouth really matter because I'm someone 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.080 ask me how I'm doing. You know, my husband will 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:26.960 I've been married thirty three years. He'll pull out a 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.720 little baby violin, you know. But it's like stress for me. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.240 But but it doesn't to him. It doesn't seem like 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.880 they're stress. So I'm trying to um work on the 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.000 words that come out of my mouth to be more 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.040 positive and to see things in a better way. And 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.600 by the way, I'm sixty five and it's taken me 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.080 years to evolve, and I'm someone that is thinking about 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.680 my life when I'm eighty and and even ninety because 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.120 I think, you know, I'm not going to be one 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.080 of those people sitting on a chair and not feeling 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.320 good in my body. It's Jesus, you look amazing. First 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.200 of all, I was like, oh my gosh, I mean, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.360 you don't look a day older than me. Yeah, I 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:12.880 have two really good lights from Instagram from Amazon right here. No, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:21.080 I mean yeah, we like to and and Janna, I 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.560 didn't it to meet you. You're Janna, right, I'm Janna. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.960 This is Katherine. You're Katherine. So I'm only talking to you, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.680 but you're sitting there, Katherine's I am sitting here. Yeah, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.960 I'm yes, I'm letting her take it away. No, please, Katherine, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.000 question away. Yeah. So yeah, So tell me quickly about you. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.240 So long story short, we are best friends and work 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:46.360 together obviously. Um, let's see what about me. We've you know, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.720 I was married for fifteen years, recently going through a divorce, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.640 have three kids. Don't lean in as much as you 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.360 two do. I'll let you'll do that part of it. Um, well, no, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.960 I think it's because it's it's uncomfortable. It's not familiar, right, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.480 so you're like learning, like just like how I've been 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.880 on my journey. It's like it's because it's not practiced. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.560 So I feel like if you practice it more, then 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.360 you're gonna eventually start to lean in more. Like the 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.440 first time I prayed, I'm like, dear God. Um, like, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.320 you know, it's like but when you start to lean 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.480 in two things, then you it gets more comfortable. And 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.680 I think you know, you're learning to hug and like 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:32.760 it's like as simple as like eventually I'm working honest. Yeah, 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.240 but that's what that's probably why it works exactly, Yes, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.680 it is it. Yeah, but and you know what, not 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.760 everyone is supposed to be like someone else. I think 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.840 the best thing is when you figure out, Okay, this 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.440 is who I am and if someone thinks I should 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.440 be different, that's more their problem than mine. So you know, 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.640 I can't change at this point, so you should, you know, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.680 don't You know? There's some things I want to change. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.240 I want to drink more water, you know, I want 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.680 to get up earlier, so I'm not always in a rush. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.760 But I can't seem to master those things. Yeah, that's 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.080 kind of the journey I'm on because I am you know, 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.320 I'm trying to embrace that part of myself, um, but 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.160 also not just be like, well that's who I am, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:15.680 so take it or leave it kind of things. So 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.960 I'm definitely trying to embrace that at the same time 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.120 and take it as a strength and not a weakness, um, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.720 but then also learning how to be more vulnerable and 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.040 lean in right And honestly, it's about being happy. Like 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.000 what makes me happy? I you know, I walked away 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.959 from the beauty business and then I went back. You know, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.520 this is my third or fourth podcast, Like why am I? 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.159 Why am I? Because I like reinventing and I like 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.760 shifting and moving and seeing what works. So I'm sure 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.240 I'll be doing you know this for a very long time. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.320 What what practices do you do to stay in that. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.879 You know, it's because I'm kind of the same way. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.159 It's like there's a lot going on and sometimes I 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.159 fall out of positivity sometimes, you know, and that's to 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.119 lean into that. But how do you stay um, how 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.399 do you stay centered in in all the stuff that 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.920 you're doing? Well? You know, I've always I've always done 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.080 all these things, and I've always had a place to 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.119 come home, which is my comfort zone. You know, my 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.040 my I've been put wearing scrunches in my hair for years. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.840 I've been wearing clouds fears. I would literally come out 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.040 of New York City and the big fancy outfits and 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.200 being so fabulous to my home and my three young 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.240 boys that are not you know, young anymore, and my 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.280 husband and I would just be I would be myself 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.320 and be Bobby. And that is always what I crave. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.240 When I'm doing these cool, fun, amazing things, I just 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.119 can't wait to get home and you know, take my 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.840 bra off and put my robe on. That makes me happy. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.840 I call aunt Alice, who's ninety one years old and 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.360 you know, from Chicago, and she helps me. I call 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.119 my dad, I call my best friends, Like I have 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.560 a posse around me, you know, my kids, my work 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.480 friends that when I need appreciate me for me and 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.400 know when I'm like I'm like wigging out or coming apart, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.600 there there to make sure I don't. And that's like 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.480 I've always made sure I had that, and then being 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:15.120 I can't yeah no, and then being married thirty plus years, 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.439 I mean, do you like what what has been the 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.200 thing that's kept you all together through all the seasons 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.679 that you've been going through work wise too, and kids 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:29.880 And he's so handsome. Um, you know, there's many things. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.480 I mean, look, he's uh, he's really strong, like I 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.040 married someone who is even stronger than me, if that's possible. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.720 And he's super super smart, and you know, you realize 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.280 after thirty three years that the strong piece of him 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.760 sometimes he is getting too strong. And that's you know, 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:49.920 I have to figure out. And you realize that men 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.440 and women are so different. So how I say things. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.680 When I say things, you know, I have to be 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.080 a little bit careful. And I have three sons, so 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.440 and I used to being a big corporation that was 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.240 mostly men. I have learned how to navigate males because 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.280 they are so different than we are. It's not even funny. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.560 So why are we still together? Because every time I 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.119 get piste off, I never say I'm going to divorce you. 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.440 I just gonna say I'm you know, I'm gonna tell 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.040 you why I'm upset with you and like ask you 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.960 not to do it again. But you know there's more 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.040 to it than that, you know. I was like, that's 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.919 so simple. I love that. No. I get Look, I 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.680 get annoyed, I get anxious, I get piste, I get 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:37.000 all those things. I'm working on how I do it. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.919 Like I'm not blaming him for the way he acts. 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.720 I'm trying to be smarter and and how and when 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.320 I tell him I'm upset or how and when? And 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.560 I'm not always doing the best job. I'm working on 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.400 it because you know, even with my kids, you can't 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.680 tell them stuff, you know, and it doesn't work. They 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.840 just they block you out. So what do you do? 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.160 I was just thinking too, it's like as as as 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.560 a you know, I have a daughter and a son um, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.560 but as you know, you're a boy mom, and it's 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:13.359 like I can't. I just I like, I hope, I 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.920 pray to God, like the you know, the whoever he's with, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.920 Like I just I'm gonna because it's gonna be hard 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.040 to take my son away, you know, like my, that's 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:24.160 my boy. Like and then I'm like, now I'm like protective. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:25.840 You'm like, do they just want your makeup? Because I'm 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.160 gonna tell these girls they need to like, like listen 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.840 up here, I adore my daughter in law. One of 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.320 them is my head of social that she's one having 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:37.600 a baby, and and and every time she wants me 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.720 to shoot things, I'm gonna say, all right, how many 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.480 minutes do I get the baby? Then we're gonna start negotiating. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.320 And and you know, she's my I love her. But 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.400 you know it's not easy all of a sudden having 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.760 girls come in the house either. So you know, nothing's easy. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.080 Guys in life, Hello, nothing's easy. But you put the 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.840 work in because it's worth it. You put the working 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.359 because because it's worth it. I love that, Bobby. 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