1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, just let's just I'll just take a 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: ready to breathe. I'm always out of breath when we 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: start this because we're like constant, constantly moving, and then 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: we get to sit for a second, it's like, oh, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: we can breathe. Yeah, because I was just like I 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: came running in the house, I got a little leo 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and then it's like, because I was just came in 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: from therapy, Oh, how was that. I'm holding space for 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: it right, Okay there, um no, but I um oh, 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: I I just love Amy so much, such a great therapist. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: You know I'm so emotional, are you? I'm so emotional. 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I just I'm on my period. Okay, well let's just 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: get that out there. Um. Which is so funny because 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: in the earlier days, my twenties, I was never emotional 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: on my period, and it's switched same. Yeah, I'm like 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: a roaring bitch about three nights before yeah, and then 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm emotional. Yeah, Like it's yeah. For me, it was 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: always like the week before, I'm like, oh, I'm going 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: to start my period next week. Because I would just 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: remember being always agitated and highly bitchy nothing. It's like 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I just got mad about the stupidest thing. Yeah. Yeah, 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: And I remember I'd have to hide my tampons and 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: rappers from Mike because I'm like, I don't want him 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: to know that was the reason I was being a 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: total be No, no, I don't ever never because then 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, um, leo, please don't choot that baby, 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: thank you. Uh yeah, so there was That's that was 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: like the first thing I said to Amy today, I go, 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm really emotional. I said, I'm on my period. I said, 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: but there it's um and I say this, I go, 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: the emotions aren't sad. She's like interesting, and she I 33 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: was like, it's more of like, um, you know, I'm 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: just like I'm around this new journey and I'm finding 35 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: myself and I'm setting really good boundaries and I'm being 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: more honest. So I was like, I think, just like 37 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: coming into this new version like makes me emotional. I 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: love it sweet. And then you know, she's I was like, 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I'm I'm starting to like who I 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: am and I think that. I was like, and that 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: makes me emotional, and and then we were just you know, 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: talking about I was told her about the date that 43 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I went on. Yeah about I mean, you know I'm dating, right, 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: so I can maybe share stories about it. I don't 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: know if you all are interested in hearing stories of 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the dating world. I think you should. Um, this is 47 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: probably date, no serious relationships, just like date and have 48 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: some fun. Right well, but I mean, like I feel 49 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: like hawk Girl summer was fun. And Leo, he's going 50 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: to chew the chords, buddy. I've literally this is the 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: thing about dogs too. I have five different bones for 52 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: him to choose for to really, but come on, buddy, 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I need you to like chill here, there we go. 54 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Let's chew that. I love your sweetheart, but I need 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: you to chill up. He's like, Mom, I was just 56 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: my great you were therapy talking about your feelings. Whatelings. Um, So, okay, 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: we have an amazing guest coming on today. Uh and 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know when she's gonna pop on, So I mean, 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: should we start tiptoeing in the direction of where the 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: emotions are coming from? Oh? Well, I just got a 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: text saying Bobby Bobby's coming on in one second. So well, guys, 62 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: you know I was gonna lean in and I was 63 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna lean in and talk about all this. Uh, maybe 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it after this amazing guest Bobby Brown. 65 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: If you don't know who Bobby Brown is, I'm gonna 66 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: need you to go on Sephora dot com or Bobby 67 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Brown dot com. And um, her makeup is amazing. But 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: she started a new podcast and I can always talk 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: to her because she's a she's a beauty icon in 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: in this space, and I just, um, I have her, 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: I have right here because I'm like this, have you 72 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: ever seen me use a different bronzer than this Bobby 73 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Brown bronzer all the time? Bobby Brown bronzer, the bronzing powder. 74 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm in the media shade. But let's take a break 75 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and get her on and talk all things beauty and podcast. Hi. Hi, 76 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm so good. I'm Jannah. This is Catherine. Hi. Hi. 77 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: Where are you? Guys? So we live in Nashville, Tennessee. 78 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: I used to live in l A. Now I live 79 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: here in Nashville. Where are you? I'm in montclar New Jersey. 80 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Is that where you're from? It is? No, It's where 81 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I raised my family. I'm from Chicago, Chicago. Yes, I'm 82 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: from Michigan. Do you know how to play Yuker? No? 83 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't. Do you even do know the game? I do? 84 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I do, but no, I do not play. I don't 85 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: play anything. No, I'm not a player. No. I watched 86 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: my kids play. How old are How old are your kids? 87 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: They're older now? Thirty two, thirty and two. I just 88 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: you know three boys. I just grew up watching them play. 89 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Are we are we? Are we a grandma yet? Or 90 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: we are going to be a grandmother in the end 91 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: of September? Oh my goodness. Have you thought about your name? Like? 92 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Do you want to be grandma? Do you want to 93 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: be Nana? Do you want to be g g? Like? 94 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: Would you want to be it would make sense to 95 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: be called BB. Love that, Yes, I I love that, 96 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: And I have to I have to show you my 97 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: my one. This is like I'm going to geek out 98 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: really fast. This is the Bobby Brown. Do you know 99 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: that that's not the new brand? I am. Yeah, you 100 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: haven't gotten the memo? Come on, no, I love No, 101 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: I got the memo. But like I'm saying, like I've 102 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: started on this, So is that the new one that's 103 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna be? Yeah, I'm not I left that company almost 104 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: six years ago. And um, so I don't even know 105 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what if you didn't buy in the past five or 106 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: six years, I don't know what you got. But this 107 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: is the new brand, which is Jones Road, which is 108 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: a clean brand, and it's it's different, it's very different. Okay. Well, 109 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: so because I knew that you sold, because you sold 110 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Bobby Brown to Stay lott A right right, But I 111 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: stayed twenty two years as an employee. Okay, I was 112 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: there a long time, so left. I launched this brand 113 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: five years after I left. Well, I've been buying this 114 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: um bronzing powder since it's um since you started with 115 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: this brand. And let me just tell you, I've never 116 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: cheated on you with my bronzing powder. Um. I mean 117 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I could possibly now cheat with the new product that 118 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you have, but I'll try and see you know what 119 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: you like? Is it hard for you to still have 120 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: your name on something that's that you're not now? Okay, Now, 121 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm proud of what I did, and you know, I'm 122 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: proud of the experiences I've had, and I'm certainly more 123 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: excited that I am able to do something completely different, 124 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: new and fresh and do it my way. Did you 125 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: were you not able to do it your way in 126 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the beginning with the I'm not going to spend a 127 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: ton of time talking about the past. I kind of 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: did that for a while, but you know, when it's 129 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: a big brand and there's a lot of people involved 130 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of departments and a lot of you 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: know whatever. Yeah, you just it's not like you're totally 132 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: in charge when you as when you first start and 133 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: now I am. I think I'm in charge, I mean. 134 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: And then so then you have your new podcast, So 135 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: what is that going to be about them? Tell me 136 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: about the podcast on iHeart Radio Shorts on iHeart Radio, 137 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: and it's called The Important Things. And to me, the 138 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Important Things are is everything from how you live your 139 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: life to who you spend time with, to what you 140 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: do with the time to like how do you buy 141 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: the best T shirt? Too? What do you eat to 142 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: feel good? What do you do to look good? You know? 143 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: And I'm someone who's really curious, and I have really 144 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: great relationships with so many amazing women and that's how 145 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: I've learned so much. So this is just, you know, 146 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: a way for people to hear these conversations and they're 147 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: real and they're just they're not scripted, and I don't know. 148 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I just hope everyone loves them because I really enjoyed 149 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: doing them. Have you had have you already started, um 150 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: having interviews and stuff like are you badging some of them? Yeah? 151 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Now we're actually launching today, so we have I think 152 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: bankrolled about six of them so far. The first one 153 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: which is launching is Giada de Laurentis, and so we 154 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: talked about everything from you know, her being divorced, to 155 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: her new boyfriend, her daughter raising a teenager, and of 156 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: course I want to know how she could eat all 157 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: this amazing food and still stay thin. And we talked 158 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: about you know, similarities like our height, and she told 159 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: me about like her favorite genes, and we talked about 160 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: bras because we're both doubt girls, and we talked about 161 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't, and um, you know, hopefully 162 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: it's relatable and interesting to people. And my assistance have 163 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: been on and they they're like, oh my god, it 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: was so good. So I'm pretty excited. And I also 165 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: talked to from Bling Empire Kim and Kelly, so I'm 166 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: kind of go in different directions, like I find people 167 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: really interesting and I just kind of want to know 168 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: who you are, and like are you just naturally always beautiful? 169 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that much of I'm asking you. 170 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: It's like, you know you're so pretty? Have you always 171 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: like I felt pretty? Or have you ever had any 172 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of issues? Like I'm curious about stuff like that. 173 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I I first of all, I love the 174 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: personality that you have to lean into people and ask questions. 175 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: That's why that's something that I, um love as well 176 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: to sit down and be like where are you from? 177 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Who are like? Who are you? You know? And like 178 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: what is your story? Because I I love hearing people's stories, 179 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's why I've enjoyed, you know, doing 180 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: my podcast as well as just really hearing people's stories 181 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: and relating and learning because I I want to learn 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: from other people. Um but oh man, I mean I 183 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: was no, I mean I don't. I don't feel like 184 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: I The first time I ever feel like I felt 185 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: pretty was when I was pregnant with my daughter. That 186 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: was the first time where I felt like I felt beautiful. 187 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Um but I mean I've had And then I would 188 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: say and I was actually just gotten from therapy and 189 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of teasing a little bit of my 190 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: therapy session, and I said, this is the first. I'm 191 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: thirty eight years old. I'll be thirty nine later this year, 192 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: and I said, this is the and I again, I'm 193 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: going to preface this. I'm on my period. I'm emotional, 194 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: but like this is the first time like I've looked 195 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: in the mirror and I'm like, I like this version 196 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: not because I've you know, yes, I physically feel the 197 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: fittest I've ever been. I you know, I've I feel 198 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: good in my body, but I also it's I feel 199 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: the most emotionally pretty and mentally pretty that I've ever felt. 200 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: And so like the the outside like, yeah, I feel 201 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: like i've you know, I know how to maybe do 202 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: my makeup more now, and I know how to you know, 203 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: like embrace the you know, the no makeup look. But 204 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: it's because I think what's coming in is the confidence 205 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: is making me feel prettier. Um, and I think it 206 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: was because of years of you know, my divorce and 207 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: the men. And so I'm like, I'm really like loving 208 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: my who I'm becoming. I mean, look, everyone has a story, 209 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: You're right, And I guess I sometimes asked the personal 210 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: things because I'm I'm comfortable doing that and talking about it. 211 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: I never like to make anyone uncomfortable and put them 212 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: on the spot, but there's all these things like I'm 213 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: sorry Jillian Michael, like do you eat bread? You know, 214 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: so it's like like that was the first question, and she, 215 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, she started laughing at me, and then we 216 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: started getting into our digestion or my digestion. Hopefully they'll 217 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: cut it out, but no, it's great. I mean Dr 218 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Oz told us how to have a great poop, you know, 219 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: like what it looks like. So it's like, well, it's funny. 220 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: I thought of naming the podcast at one point everyone poops, 221 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: because I do think everyone is the same and you know, famous, 222 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: not famous, old, young, we're kind of very similar. So 223 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, for me, there are so many podcasts out there, 224 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: like I just wanted this to be, you know, someone 225 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: hearing a conversation. It's like I get to meet and 226 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: talk to really interesting people, as do you, and I 227 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: want people to hear the information is um you know, 228 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: as someone who leans in because obviously you lean in, 229 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: you want to hear people's story. Is there has there 230 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: ever been something like what what prevents what prevents you 231 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: from leaning in? Like is there something that like you 232 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: get uncomfortable with or you shy away from in a topic. Yeah, 233 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't look to hurt people's feelings. 234 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't hurt I don't look to out them on something. 235 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: And you know, people have said a couple weird things 236 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and you know you have to make a decision do 237 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: you keep them in do not keep them in? Like 238 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't. You know, I'm a caring person more than anything. 239 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: So I you know, we all have things that we 240 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about and that we don't need 241 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: everyone to hear about. So, um, that probably prevents me 242 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the most, I know. And I could kind of tell 243 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: or I know, and there's things that are pain points 244 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: for people. I'm not trying to un lock this hotbed. 245 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: There's other people out there that could, you know, play 246 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: that role. It's not me. Where do you find it 247 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: in your life where you kind of struggle leaning in? Um? Well, 248 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I've just started working with a business coach who you 249 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: know is helping me out a lot of things. And 250 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: she's teaching me that, you know what, the words that 251 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: come out of my mouth really matter because I'm someone 252 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: ask me how I'm doing. You know, my husband will 253 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: I've been married thirty three years. He'll pull out a 254 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: little baby violin, you know. But it's like stress for me. 255 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: But but it doesn't to him. It doesn't seem like 256 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: they're stress. So I'm trying to um work on the 257 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: words that come out of my mouth to be more 258 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: positive and to see things in a better way. And 259 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm sixty five and it's taken me 260 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: years to evolve, and I'm someone that is thinking about 261 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: my life when I'm eighty and and even ninety because 262 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm not going to be one 263 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: of those people sitting on a chair and not feeling 264 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: good in my body. It's Jesus, you look amazing. First 265 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: of all, I was like, oh my gosh, I mean, 266 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: you don't look a day older than me. Yeah, I 267 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: have two really good lights from Instagram from Amazon right here. No, 268 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we like to and and Janna, I 269 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't it to meet you. You're Janna, right, I'm Janna. 270 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: This is Katherine. You're Katherine. So I'm only talking to you, 271 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: but you're sitting there, Katherine's I am sitting here. Yeah, 272 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm yes, I'm letting her take it away. No, please, Katherine, 273 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: question away. Yeah. So yeah, So tell me quickly about you. 274 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: So long story short, we are best friends and work 275 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: together obviously. Um, let's see what about me. We've you know, 276 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I was married for fifteen years, recently going through a divorce, 277 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: have three kids. Don't lean in as much as you 278 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: two do. I'll let you'll do that part of it. Um, well, no, 279 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I think it's because it's it's uncomfortable. It's not familiar, right, 280 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: so you're like learning, like just like how I've been 281 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: on my journey. It's like it's because it's not practiced. 282 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: So I feel like if you practice it more, then 283 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna eventually start to lean in more. Like the 284 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: first time I prayed, I'm like, dear God. Um, like, 285 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's like but when you start to lean 286 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: in two things, then you it gets more comfortable. And 287 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I think you know, you're learning to hug and like 288 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: it's like as simple as like eventually I'm working honest. Yeah, 289 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: but that's what that's probably why it works exactly, Yes, 290 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: it is it. Yeah, but and you know what, not 291 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: everyone is supposed to be like someone else. I think 292 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the best thing is when you figure out, Okay, this 293 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: is who I am and if someone thinks I should 294 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: be different, that's more their problem than mine. So you know, 295 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I can't change at this point, so you should, you know, 296 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: don't You know? There's some things I want to change. 297 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: I want to drink more water, you know, I want 298 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: to get up earlier, so I'm not always in a rush. 299 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: But I can't seem to master those things. Yeah, that's 300 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of the journey I'm on because I am you know, 301 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to embrace that part of myself, um, but 302 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: also not just be like, well that's who I am, 303 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: so take it or leave it kind of things. So 304 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm definitely trying to embrace that at the same time 305 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: and take it as a strength and not a weakness, um, 306 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: but then also learning how to be more vulnerable and 307 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: lean in right And honestly, it's about being happy. Like 308 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: what makes me happy? I you know, I walked away 309 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: from the beauty business and then I went back. You know, 310 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: this is my third or fourth podcast, Like why am I? 311 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: Why am I? Because I like reinventing and I like 312 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: shifting and moving and seeing what works. So I'm sure 313 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: I'll be doing you know this for a very long time. 314 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: What what practices do you do to stay in that. 315 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's because I'm kind of the same way. 316 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot going on and sometimes I 317 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: fall out of positivity sometimes, you know, and that's to 318 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: lean into that. But how do you stay um, how 319 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: do you stay centered in in all the stuff that 320 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: you're doing? Well? You know, I've always I've always done 321 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: all these things, and I've always had a place to 322 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: come home, which is my comfort zone. You know, my 323 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: my I've been put wearing scrunches in my hair for years. 324 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: I've been wearing clouds fears. I would literally come out 325 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: of New York City and the big fancy outfits and 326 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: being so fabulous to my home and my three young 327 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: boys that are not you know, young anymore, and my 328 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: husband and I would just be I would be myself 329 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and be Bobby. And that is always what I crave. 330 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: When I'm doing these cool, fun, amazing things, I just 331 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: can't wait to get home and you know, take my 332 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: bra off and put my robe on. That makes me happy. 333 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: I call aunt Alice, who's ninety one years old and 334 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, from Chicago, and she helps me. I call 335 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: my dad, I call my best friends, Like I have 336 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: a posse around me, you know, my kids, my work 337 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: friends that when I need appreciate me for me and 338 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: know when I'm like I'm like wigging out or coming apart, 339 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: there there to make sure I don't. And that's like 340 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: I've always made sure I had that, and then being 341 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: I can't yeah no, and then being married thirty plus years, 342 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: I mean, do you like what what has been the 343 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: thing that's kept you all together through all the seasons 344 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: that you've been going through work wise too, and kids 345 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: And he's so handsome. Um, you know, there's many things. 346 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's uh, he's really strong, like I 347 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: married someone who is even stronger than me, if that's possible. 348 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: And he's super super smart, and you know, you realize 349 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: after thirty three years that the strong piece of him 350 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: sometimes he is getting too strong. And that's you know, 351 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: I have to figure out. And you realize that men 352 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: and women are so different. So how I say things. 353 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: When I say things, you know, I have to be 354 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: a little bit careful. And I have three sons, so 355 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and I used to being a big corporation that was 356 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: mostly men. I have learned how to navigate males because 357 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: they are so different than we are. It's not even funny. 358 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: So why are we still together? Because every time I 359 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: get piste off, I never say I'm going to divorce you. 360 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: I just gonna say I'm you know, I'm gonna tell 361 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you why I'm upset with you and like ask you 362 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: not to do it again. But you know there's more 363 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: to it than that, you know. I was like, that's 364 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: so simple. I love that. No. I get Look, I 365 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: get annoyed, I get anxious, I get piste, I get 366 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: all those things. I'm working on how I do it. 367 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: Like I'm not blaming him for the way he acts. 368 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be smarter and and how and when 369 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: I tell him I'm upset or how and when? And 370 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm not always doing the best job. I'm working on 371 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: it because you know, even with my kids, you can't 372 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: tell them stuff, you know, and it doesn't work. They 373 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: just they block you out. So what do you do? 374 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: I was just thinking too, it's like as as as 375 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: a you know, I have a daughter and a son um, 376 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: but as you know, you're a boy mom, and it's 377 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: like I can't. I just I like, I hope, I 378 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: pray to God, like the you know, the whoever he's with, 379 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Like I just I'm gonna because it's gonna be hard 380 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: to take my son away, you know, like my, that's 381 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: my boy. Like and then I'm like, now I'm like protective. 382 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: You'm like, do they just want your makeup? Because I'm 383 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell these girls they need to like, like listen 384 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: up here, I adore my daughter in law. One of 385 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: them is my head of social that she's one having 386 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: a baby, and and and every time she wants me 387 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: to shoot things, I'm gonna say, all right, how many 388 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: minutes do I get the baby? Then we're gonna start negotiating. 389 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: And and you know, she's my I love her. But 390 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: you know it's not easy all of a sudden having 391 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: girls come in the house either. So you know, nothing's easy. 392 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Guys in life, Hello, nothing's easy. But you put the 393 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: work in because it's worth it. You put the working 394 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: because because it's worth it. I love that, Bobby. All right, 395 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: tell everyone where we can listen to your podcast and 396 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: where we can get your new amazing new line. Well, 397 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: you can listen to the podcast The Important Things on 398 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I Heart or wherever you get your podcasts, and you 399 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: can go to Jones Road Beauty dot com and um 400 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: you'll see everything or you can go to the Jones 401 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Road Beauty Instagram and um there will be uh, there's 402 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: just Bobby dot com, which is our our editorial site. 403 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: You could follow me on TikTok on Instagram and anyways, okay, awesome, Well, 404 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: thank you Bobby so much. Good luck with that podcast, 405 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: and um, I am excited to listen to all the 406 00:22:44,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: important things. Thank you. Bye. Well, I'm just gonna toss 407 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: this one and I'm gonna get the new one. Um. 408 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I love people that want to, you know, as ask questions. Yeah, 409 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: It's like when I was at the restaurant last night 410 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: and it probably annoys people, but I'm as like, where 411 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: are you from? Okay, I genuinely want to know. Like 412 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: this waiter he was so cool and I was like like, 413 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: where are you from? I mean when you say I'm 414 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: from Atlanta? And I was like, oh, I have a 415 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: really bad Atlanta story that Katherine told him last week 416 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: speaking Atlanta your airport socks. I'm sure we have more 417 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta stories too, oh do we ever? Um? But yeah, no, 418 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: I just think it's I think it's cool. And you know, 419 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: what's something that in therapy today when I was talking 420 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: to Amy was I was telling her of the situation, 421 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: and she goes, we're all on different wrote like we're 422 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: all on different places in the map. Okay, so you 423 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: can be far left um with I mean even politics, religion, 424 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: this whatever, where like wherever you're at, like and then 425 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: you can and then maybe I'm over here, and it's 426 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: like you can still have commonality, but you can just 427 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: be in different parts on the map and still find 428 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, things that you can relate to. But if 429 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: you're two polar, then that's when it's like is that 430 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: going to work? And then where is that person willing 431 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: to kind of move on the map with you or 432 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: not move on the map with you? And then are 433 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: you going to be able to stick to like? And 434 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: then you have to be like, okay, well what do 435 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: I really want? And like are you like, for example, 436 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: I don't think I could date someone that was really 437 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: into like ayahuasca and like, super, what why are you 438 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: giving me? Like I was like, this is someone like 439 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: and it's ayahuasca is so funny? I was like, oh god, 440 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I was like, who's doing ayahuaska? Um? Ayahuasca? Is this 441 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: practice that again I'm gonna probably butcher this And I 442 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: apologize and I don't mean to offend or whatever. Ayahuasca is. 443 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Uh this like I believe tea you drink it's some 444 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know the exact terminology of what 445 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: it is. I don't know if it's like roots or right. 446 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: I mean like it's something that you drink of like 447 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: a tea that has stuff that a shaman gives you 448 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: and you like some people like poop themselves, like you 449 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: go through like you basically go through like this um 450 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: trip and um. But I've heard such beautiful healing that's 451 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: come from ayahuasca. Like I I even almost considered doing 452 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: it after my divorce because you know, people like they 453 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: some people eat the toad or whatever like the like 454 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: there's like there's certain things that people do that you 455 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: can experience, like massive healing. And so I remember talking 456 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: to my girlfriend Caitlin Crosby about it and uh another 457 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: friend of mine who actually did ayahuaska, and I was 458 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: like I started to explore it, um to go, Okay, 459 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: maybe I would like to experience what this might feel 460 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: like or some revelation because people say they have like 461 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: this insane revelation. But then I started to remember that 462 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm not the person that likes to take tailan al 463 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: so I'm like me drinking this like concoction of I 464 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: don't know really what it is. You know, maybe that's 465 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: not the right route for me. Like maybe I should 466 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: just do like on site. Let's that that might be 467 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: more of like my alley. Like but you know, um, 468 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: she was like I was talking to her about it 469 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: because here both single moms, and you know, in the 470 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: dating scene, and and one guy was very into ayahuasca 471 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and he was like a spiritual leader and he did 472 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: all these things, and I think there's and I'm very spiritual, 473 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: but if someone's on the spectrum all the way, like 474 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: I just don't align with that right. And then I'm like, like, 475 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: for example, let's just call this Julie, our best friend 476 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: in Queendom. Let's just start with this conversation. Hi, Julie, 477 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you for a second. We're at 478 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: her birthday dinner with the queendom and um, it's you know, 479 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: it's all of Queendom. And then a few other of 480 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: our friends celebrating Pam and Julie and Julie's you know, she's, um, 481 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: she's more on the I'm gonna read tarot cards, and 482 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: she's really begin astrology, which is beautiful and I love 483 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: it and I have you know, I believe some of 484 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: that stuff for sure. You know, I'm I'm a hands 485 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: down Sagittarius and you know I'm I'm here for it 486 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: and all of it. What I'm not when when she 487 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: started talking about was her seven lives? Right, yep? You 488 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: any more to that? No, that's what she started talking about. 489 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: So she was basically saying like one in her sixth life, 490 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: like she was, her and her husband were actually brother 491 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: and sister. Kristen Brusco's way, She's like, I'm fine with 492 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: like the you know, sad like the astrology stuff. She's like, 493 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: but you're telling me that you've got seven lives and 494 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: so okay. So if that was a guy version, I'd 495 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: probably be like, I'm not, like, we just don't align 496 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: with that. I just wouldn't. Really, I'd be like, yeah, 497 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I wouldn't align with it. And then 498 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that I don't really want to have 499 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: conversations like that all the time. That was fun and 500 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: it was funny and we had a great time, and 501 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: like Julie, she was crazy, but also but that's great. 502 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: That's what she believes in, and that's you know, she's 503 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: had seven lives and like that's awesome. Like I'm in 504 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: a champion and she owns it and I love it. 505 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think I could date someone like that, right, Yeah, well, 506 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: again it does not align with your beliefs. That would 507 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: be really hard to be in a serious relationship with 508 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: someone who has completely different beliefs. For me, it would 509 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: be and maybe not some maybe some are really agree 510 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, you know a lot of people 511 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: that are, you know, but it would be hard for me. Yeah, 512 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: But I was trying to like understand. I was like, oh, Amy, 513 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: how can I because I believe in different things too, 514 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: and how can I not? I'm not trying to judge 515 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: someone else. She's like, well, we're just all in a 516 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: different part of the map, and you just have to 517 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: like how far outside of the map are you? How 518 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: close are you? How is one willing to learn more? 519 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Is one willing to you know? And she's like you 520 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: just had to kind of figure that piece out. And 521 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: it's just it's so interesting because I just started thinking 522 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: about like the seven lives things. I'm like, yeah, I 523 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: can do that. Like, you know, because I wouldn't want 524 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: to go do shaman trips every sure, maybe you know 525 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: once in my lifetime could be interesting and I would 526 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: consider it. But I still think you have to like 527 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: align with people and like if you know, someone had 528 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: like twenty cats, I probably couldn't even do that. Like 529 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a big cat person, you know, 530 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: like I like a cat again, but I'm like my 531 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: mom would never to be able to come visit please 532 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: date someone. So are we getting like a dating story 533 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: or we're just gonna go with that. I can see 534 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: the headline now, Jenne Gramer cries on a date? Uh No, 535 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: but I think so, Yeah, I did. I went on 536 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: a date with someone and he's so he's a very 537 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: special human being, Like he's a he's very emotionally vulnerable. 538 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: He's like he's a really great guy. There's just something 539 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: that we don't align with, and it's something that's really 540 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: important to me and I and I just had a 541 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: moment when I was on the date where it's kind 542 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: of like, okay, like do we then continue to talk 543 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: or is that it because we have two different ideas 544 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: of what this looks, of what we think something looks 545 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: like and it's just so I mean, and I guess 546 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: that's what dating is, and you can figure out what 547 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, but when everything else kind of starts checking, 548 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: you're like, damn it, you know. Yeah. But then I 549 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: was telling my therapist today, I was like, it's just 550 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: so cool because this new version that I like, love 551 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: of myself that I'm becoming is very Usually I'm like, oh, yeah, 552 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: that's fine, like nowhere, but I do I wouldn't mean 553 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: it like this is. I want someone who has a 554 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: strong faith in God. I want like someone that has 555 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, X, Y and Z. And it's like, again, 556 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't want or need someone, but when I do 557 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: have someone in my life and my kid's life, like 558 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: these are the things that are kind of non negotiable 559 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: in a way. You know. I love that though, that 560 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: you're recognizing that and then you're able to stand up 561 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: for that. Well that's and that's why I started crying. 562 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: And I was because you've never been hand because I've 563 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: never and he was just like he looked at me. 564 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, he's like he's like I'm holding like 565 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm holding space for your emotions. And I'm 566 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: like because he's like, I can see how I'm warn 567 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: this is to you, and it's like, and it's not. 568 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't crying because I was sad. I was crying 569 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: because I was like I was actually crying because I 570 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: was proud of myself, but like I was speaking truth 571 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: of something that was really important to me, and I 572 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: was just like, and it's And I told Amy today, 573 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: I was like, it's just so foreign to like actually 574 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: speak my truth and then be proud of myself for 575 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: it or not feel like, well, you know, or or 576 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: just to like be like, well I want him to 577 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: like me. It's like, no, no, like I like me 578 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and this because what comes along with me. I want 579 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: someone to like you for you know. And and he does, 580 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: but it's like he just might not agree with some 581 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: of the things that I agree with. And it's like 582 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: that's the part where it's like, well, I'm not really 583 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: going to bend on certain things because I don't have 584 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: to write. I mean, I guess that makes sense. But 585 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Amy saying, you know, depending on where y'all are on 586 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: the spectrum, if you're able to meet somewhere or not. Yeah, 587 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: but dating is so interesting because I feel like now, 588 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: like after Hawk Girl Summer. I'm not again. I'm not 589 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: looking for a relationship, but I'm I'm past the point 590 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: of like just like having fun. So I will like 591 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: nip it in the butt. Bud, it's the bud, nippit, 592 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: nip it in the bud. But I'm gonna nip it 593 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: in the butt. I think I used to think that, 594 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: but I think it's bud. Okay, I'm gonna nip it 595 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: in the bud. But yeah, I don't know. So, I 596 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: just dating is interesting and it's fun, but it's I 597 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: think it's been really cool because I've been able to 598 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: learn more about myself through dating and what I want 599 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: and what I don't want, and then just kind of 600 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: just being alone too, which is really nice, like we've 601 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: talked about before. But anyways, the phrase. The phrase refers 602 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: to the horticultural practice of pinching out plant buds to 603 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: prevent the development of shoots or flowers. I'm gonna nip 604 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: it in the bud. There you go, here's the actual. So, 605 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, what have you learned, Catherine, What have 606 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I learned? Oh my gosh, about myself? I don't know. 607 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've learned a lot about myself in 608 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: the last just a couple of weeks, honestly, Um, but 609 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: that's just from being alone and realizing that, Um, I've 610 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: got a lot to work on, but I am. I'm 611 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: here for the journey. I've learned that I'm way more 612 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: emotional than I realized, and I don't really know what 613 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: to do with the emotion, but that's fine. I'm learning 614 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: to just sit in them. That's the biggest thing right now. 615 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: It's like, why do I feel this way right now? 616 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I'm just gonna sit in it. 617 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of my new my new thing. I think too. 618 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: You're you're always like I you wanted to be alone, 619 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: but then you're like, oh, now I'm alone, And then 620 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: you didn't realize the emotion that would come along with 621 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: being alone, even though it's what you wanted. But now 622 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, and it's not like a it's not 623 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: like a regret, it's not a whatever, it's a you know, 624 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: at first, there was a lot of relief and I 625 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: got to just be by myself and really, but now 626 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, Okay, what am I doing next? 627 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: Because I really am by myself, you know, and I 628 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: really have to do all this, So one am I 629 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: going to do with it? And how I'm gonna, How 630 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: am I gonna It's just kind of the pressure of 631 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: like how am I going to change? How am I 632 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: going to make sure that the next thing or just 633 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: or not even the next thing, just how you know, 634 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to be happy, and I am happy. It's 635 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: just a lot of emotions that are up and down 636 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: with it. I guess you know what I'm trying to say, Yeah, 637 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: where the where the emotions? Like where are you trying 638 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: to figure out where those emotions that are coming from? Yeah? 639 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: A lot of it, A lot of it is. I mean, 640 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: I do think the main emotion is a delayed reaction 641 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: of like my family is no longer, not necessarily that 642 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not married anymore, but just like you know, I 643 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: think about family trips and you know we've talked about that, 644 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: but it's just like or holidays or whatever that I 645 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: had a very delayed reaction to that. It was like 646 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I was prepared for it, but I'm like, Okay, now 647 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: the reality is sinking in um and then what that 648 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: looks like down the road when somebody has when we 649 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: have other other people in our lives and you know, 650 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's the stuff I knew about and 651 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: I thought about, but I hadn't felt it yet. And 652 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: so now that I'm feeling it, Um, I'm just trying 653 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: to like, you know, sit in those emotions but then 654 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: also turn it to positive. That's one thing I'm learning 655 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: to like. If I sit in it too long, then 656 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: I get down. And I don't want to stay down. 657 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: I want to feel it, but then bring myself back up. 658 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: So what do you do then to get back up? Um? 659 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Right now? Really, I just, um, I go to the Bible, honestly, 660 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, I go to the Bible, 661 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: or I do or I pray or I do. You know, 662 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: I'm very trying to get back you know, into my 663 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: personal relationship more. Um and then or I just try 664 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: to do something that makes me happy, you know. Like 665 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: if I'm just sitting there, like scrolling on so that's 666 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: when I see, Like when I'm just like sitting there 667 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: on social media and I just like start thinking about stuff, 668 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm like get up and go for a walk or 669 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: get up and you know, do something with the kids 670 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and just trying to like just 671 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: get out of your body. That's interesting. Yeah, it's all 672 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: been very It's a journey for sure. I will say, 673 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: I know I'm not trying to get like super religious 674 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: on everyone here. But when you say you look at 675 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: the Bible, it's so funny because we don't actually talk 676 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: about it a lot together? Do you are you do? More? 677 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: Like how do I say? This? Um is so different 678 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: people on the map right, Like some people like I 679 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: have one friend who's always like, God spoke to me God. 680 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: It's like and then but I like, you don't really 681 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: ever I mean know, you listen to worship music. I 682 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: know you go to church, but like I don't never 683 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: like I guess we never really really talk about it. Yeah, 684 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean we don't. We have and we have it. 685 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: I think at the beginning of our relationship you weren't 686 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: really in the spot. So I definitely you know, if 687 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: there's somebody that's not I will plant little seeds here 688 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: and there. But I'm never going to make someone feel 689 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable or like I'm trying to pressure them or anything 690 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: like that. I never want to be that kind of 691 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: Christian Um. But if it's someone that's open to it 692 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: or I know is looking for it or then I 693 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: will speak more about it. Um, but it's been so 694 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: amazing to watch is you come into your relationship on 695 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: your own. It's been just really cool and and my 696 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: point of view to watch. But no, I think I 697 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: go I've gone in and out of I've always believed. 698 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean I've never you know, really not, but I've 699 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: gone in and out of how much effort I put 700 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: into it and how much time I put into it. 701 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: And I'm just putting a lot more time into it 702 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: now and making it more of a priority. Yeah, I'm 703 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: for sure just holding space for that. Okay, Well that 704 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: was a really good episode. Um, I'm gonna I want 705 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: to share another dating story, but I'm gonna hold it 706 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: for next week's because I'm gonna try to get someone 707 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: on to It's either gonna be the next week of 708 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: the next week, but someone that can. I'm gonna bring 709 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: a guy on that I've known for years and we're 710 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: just going to have I want to do like it. 711 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: I really want to ask from a male's perspective in 712 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: the dating world, because he's single and whatever, so I 713 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: would love to kind of hear a man's perspective of 714 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: game playing. Nag Jason spar like all of it, So yeah, 715 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: that'll be good. Whould interesting? We should try that all right, 716 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: y'all have a great week.