WEBVTT - The Girlfriends S4/E1: No Place Like Home 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.680 Hey, I'm Nikki, the host of the new series of 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.160 The Girlfriends Untouchable. It's a story that takes place in 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:13.320 my hometown, Kansas City, Kansas, and over the next eight episodes, 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.000 you're going to meet a lot of incredible people, including 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.200 some of the truly inspiring women I get to call 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:25.599 my friends. But it's also a tough story, one that 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:30.120 will dive into topics including sexual assault, violence, and murder. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.320 There will also be some strong language if you or 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.919 someone you love has been affected by any of the 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.680 themes in the show. We've left some links in the 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.400 description that offer resources and support take care of yourself. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.400 When Nico Quinn gets up in the morning, she heads 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.840 straight over to the truck she's driving that day, an 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.480 eighteen wheeler with a cabin up top. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.720 God pray first touched the wheels and everything on the 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.600 truck and pray for a save trip. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.360 Nico works as an over the road truck driver, hauling 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.400 fifty to eighty thousand pound freights across the country for 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.400 hundreds or sometimes thousands of miles a week. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.560 I love traveling. I have been to Canada, I've been 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.600 all the way up to Maine, and Maine is so 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.560 beautiful and even Oregon. I mean it's just beautiful, just 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.200 so green, and you see in all kind of animals 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.760 like elk and rams, and I'm like, wow, you know, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.840 because something you never seen before. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.160 She never feels more free than when she's out on 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:44.920 the open road. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.840 I've always said, if I came back as another creature, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:48.480 I would want. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.160 To be an eagle, because eagles are pretty good at 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.560 weathering storms. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.640 Just like I wather the storm that I've been through. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.120 For Nico, the storm began not on the open road, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:09.799 but in the city where she grew up. Nico was 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.799 raised on the northeast side of Kansas City, Kansas, in 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.400 a neighborhood close to the banks of the Missouri River 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.560 named Quindero. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.919 It was a village over there. Both sides of the 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.519 street was filled with either houses or black owned businesses. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.120 The Wilson's had a piece of shop right at the 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.560 corner of eighteenth Street. We had one restaurant called CNS 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.320 that was the best burghers. They used to sell the 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.959 hand packed ice cream. Oh my goodness. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.160 Quendero was rich in community, but by the nineties, decades 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.200 of economic neglect had put a cap on the neighborhood's growth, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.000 and while Nico tried to stay out of trouble, she 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.680 found herself pulled into what was going on around her. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.440 She had four young kids to support and what she 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.359 needed to do to put food on the table. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.000 I was in the streets. I was selling drugs, and 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:11.800 I don't agree with my lifestyle, but you know, being young, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.120 selling drugs was a thing back then. I felt like, 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.640 if I can make money off of it, that's what 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.040 I'll do. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.680 But she and her family were also trying to create 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.519 a better future for themselves by getting an education. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.520 It was like about five or six of us going 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:40.520 to school to get our GEDs, my cousin done, my sister. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.880 We all used to get up, get ready, get in 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.600 the car. Well used to ride together. We'd get up 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.880 there to Donnelly College and be acting the food. We 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.520 was just having fun and trying to get our lives intact. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.640 By April nineteen ninety four, things are looking up. It's 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.760 one of the first days of that year that feels 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:09.320 like spring. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.280 It was nice that day, the sun was out. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.880 As she walks down the familiar tree lined street near 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.680 her mother's house, Nico notices an unusual car parked on 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:21.640 the side of the road. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.400 I seen a blue kellac sitting there. I'm like, who 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.000 the heck is that? And I said, all they must 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.839 be waiting on somebody. And I seen this guy coming 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.880 across the field, black hat, black shirt, black jeans, black 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.760 tennis shoes, and I said, oh, maybe they're waiting on him. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.640 And then then I heard the first pal. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.560 Nico heard the man fire three shots into the car. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.880 My mama duck behind her truck. My sister came out 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.239 and started jumping up and down, screaming, saying, oh my god, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:02.760 it's little Done. Oh my god, little Don. My legs 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.440 turned to mush. I just fell and started screaming. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.719 Nico's favorite cousin, Little Don, has just been shot. He's 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.040 only twenty one years old. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:23.480 My legs felt like I was in mud or something. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:32.160 I couldn't move. Everybody is a, you know, chaos. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.520 The shooter turns around and disappears into a field. One 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.360 of Nico's neighbors, Ruby gets a good look at him. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.919 She said, oh my god, that's Lamont. I said, I 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.960 don't know, no Lamont. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.279 Nico's family members run out of their houses and onto 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.960 the street. She follows them. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.680 I went to the car and don was looking over 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:04.440 trying to talk. This whole side of his face was gone. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.679 The man in the passenger seat, another cousin named Donnie Ewing, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.400 has been shocked too. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:16.520 We was asking what happened and who did it, and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.279 we're asking him to hold on, and he was just 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.080 looking at us, trying to speak. And my mom had 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.159 walked around and she put her hand on him and 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:31.400 she started praying for him, and she said, he's gone. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.279 I've seen him take his last breath, but I was 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:40.239 hoping he was still alive. It's like your best friend, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.600 that person that you can fight it in. I can 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:53.000 save him. That day was the worst day of my life, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:07:00.120 The worst day of my life. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.960 Nico's cousins were dead, murdered in broad daylight, but the 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.880 quest to find out who had killed them and why 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:15.920 would go way beyond this murder investigation. There was a 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.040 dark scandal at the heart of Kansas City, Kansas, a 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.680 story of violence and corruption spanning decades, and it would 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.320 take my friend Nico, along with a band of incredible women, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.840 on a journey to speak up, reveal the truth, and 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.440 fight for the city we love. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.200 Oh God, why God. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.520 I'm Nikki Richardson from the teams at Novel and iHeart Podcasts. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.600 This is the Girlfriend's Untouchable. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:10.960 I Had You, You Got You? 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:27.680 Episode one, No Place Like Home You April fifteenth, nineteen 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:34.360 ninety four turned Nico Quinn's life upside down. Her favorite cousin, Danielle, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:39.000 had been shot murdered right in front of her. It 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:46.920 was a devastating loss. Just like that, her soulmate was gone. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.040 We was two peas in a pot ever since we 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.880 was kids. Donielle was like my brother from another mother. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.800 He was my best friend. He was a jack of 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.520 all trade, master nun. He could dance, he could fix things, 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.720 he can sing, he can dress. He was mac Daddy 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.760 other year let him tell it. And he was a comforter. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.719 He was a giver. If he was still alive, you 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.880 wouldn't even be able to interview him. He would have 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.080 you in tears. Just try laughing, because he is. He 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.520 was that much of a food. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.800 But like so many other people in Quendero, he lost 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.600 his way in his teenage years. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.480 Danielle ended up getting gone drugs on crack cocaine, started 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:34.640 dealing with the wrong people. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:40.880 Hours after witnessing his murder, Nico began to wonder were 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:47.560 those wrong people involved. Two weeks earlier, a group of 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.080 men had shown up to punish Danyelle for a debt 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.640 he owed allegedly stealing drugs from their stash house. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.640 About six to seven people jumped on and beat them 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.640 with poles, and he was beat up real bad, and 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.560 he ended up coming down on my house, sitting on 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.360 my mother's porch. So I started talking to him. I 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.120 went and got some bandage and stuff and started attending 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.079 to his wounds. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.640 Nico says that Donyelle claimed the attack had been instigated 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.800 by a drug dealer named Cecil Brooks and a local 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:25.000 guy everyone calls Monster. Nico says that after the attack, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.600 she decided to help Donielle pay off his debts. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.360 So I sent my sister and somebody else up there 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.199 to ask the person, can I paid a debt for him? 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.160 They said it was okay, it was cool. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.120 A few days later, the men came back and tried 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.720 to take Donyell away, but Nico's family intervened and told 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.480 them to back off. The Next day, Danielle showed up 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.040 at Nico's house. His mood had changed. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.280 Don came in and he was singing. He was singing 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.560 Christian songs. I have never seen him his fear just 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.040 so happy. He came back and he told me, say, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.640 I just want took a shower. I'm about to go 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.760 see my baby and cousin. I'm gonna check myself in. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.720 I'm about to get myself right. I can't go down 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:11.640 this road again. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.360 Danielle had a young son. He wanted to go to rehab, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.600 get himself clean, and start afresh. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.840 He kissed me on my cheek or maybe my forehead, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.520 told me he loved me, and then he walked out 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:26.959 the door. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.440 A few minutes later, Danielle was dad. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:42.920 I wasn't okay. I had all types of emotions. Everywhere 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:49.400 I went that day. I kept seeing my cousin in 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:56.000 the state that I had last seen him, and it's horrible. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.240 The police came over. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.560 Nico opened her front door. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.520 I came out and I was asking them, you know 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:11.600 what did they want? 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.480 They had come to investigate the murders of Donielle Quinn 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:20.640 and Donnie Ewing. The lead officer was a detective named 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.280 Roger Gallupski. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:31.439 He was a chunky white guy that thought he was 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:38.280 Rigo Suavee. He had black hair slicked back, wore these glasses, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.000 a ring on his spinky finger. He had a couple 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.679 of chains on his neck. He made sure you seen 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.120 his badge yet, his badge on his belt, his gun 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:53.960 on his side. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.720 Detective Gaulupski wanted Nico to take a look through a 0:12:58.760 --> 0:12:59.760 list of suspects. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.480 But I'm going through the pictures, I said, I know 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.679 he didn't do it. Oh, I know he didn't do it. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.840 I said, I don't see the person in there that 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:08.200 did it. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.480 Nico hadn't seen the shooter's face clearly enough to say 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.400 for sure, but she thought she knew how her main 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.200 suspects were. Speaking to the police in a community as 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.440 tight knit as Quandero was risky, but Nico didn't care. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.280 This was about family. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.640 I said, we know who did it. Was the person 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.680 that tried to pick him up the night before, who 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.840 kept trying to get him, who jumped on him. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.960 Cecil and Monster, the guys who allegedly jumped Donyelle, But 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.680 they weren't included in the photos the police showed her. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.280 Nico didn't identify any of their other suspects, so the 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:43.640 cops left. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.280 They came back again the next morning early in the morning. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.280 They were like, we need you to look at these 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.000 pictures again. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.120 They showed her a picture of a boy named Lamont McIntyre. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.320 This name took Nico straight back to the moment her 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.040 cousin was shot. After the gunshots, her neighbor had shouted 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.040 out a name Lamont, but when she examined the photo, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:07.640 she shook her head. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.000 I said no, his ears was too big and the 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.720 person that did it is didn't stick out like hes did. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.000 I said, no, he didn't do it. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.400 As one of the few witnesses to the shooting, Nico 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.200 hoped the police would take her at her word, but 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:26.600 Gallupski seemed insistent that Nico looked again, so he pushed 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.720 the photo of Lamont McIntyre towards her. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.320 So I took the picture again and I'm like, no, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:33.680 he didn't do it. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:42.600 They reached a standstill, waiting each other out. Eventually, the 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:47.440 officer left her house, but Nico's part in the investigation 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.280 wasn't over. What she didn't know was that the man 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.520 in blue leaving her front porch had already chosen his 0:14:54.600 --> 0:15:00.240 lead suspect. Because Roger Gilupski was no regular detective, he 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.040 was a dangerous man with enough power to destroy lives, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.920 starting with that of a boy in handcuffs on the 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:33.200 other side of Kansas City. The spring of nineteen ninety 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.280 four was a season that would irreversibly change dozens of 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.080 lives in Kansas City, including that of a sixteen year 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.200 old boy raised in Quindero. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:49.240 My name is Lamont McIntyre. Growing up where I'm from 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.040 was it was fun times. We didn't notice poverty because 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.280 we had each other, like we were really type with 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:55.840 my family. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.960 Lamont didn't live that far away from the Queen cousins, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.280 but he was young and had his own group of friends. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.000 We was hip hop heads. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.400 I was in the hip hop I had the car 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.240 main like the flat time would dye in it. I 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.000 was really in up fashion and clean shoes and gold 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.160 chains and my rings. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.600 He liked to keep up with the latest styles. So 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.880 one day he decided to experiment with his brother's hair. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.920 So my mother's in work one day and I got 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.720 some clippers from Kmart and I cut my brothers in 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.040 hair and I messed it up bad. My mother was 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.000 mad at me, But after that I learned how to 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.440 get it right. And then from my brother's hair, I 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.080 saw I cutting everybody in the neighborhood's hair. My cousin's in hair, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.840 and I became the barber. So I was cutting hair 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.720 back then bout three dollars of haircut. I was a hustler, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.720 so I would cut grass, I would paint. I would 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.200 do anything I could to get some money, just to 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.840 go get some fresh shoes or something like that. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.920 Those side hustles were reserved for the afternoons and weekends 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.400 because Lamont spent his days at school. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.840 My mother was a strict parent and wanted me to 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:58.600 be educated. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.080 He was a good student. He showed up to class 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.960 and left science. He would occasionally get in trouble for 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:06.760 talking too much. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.240 Though I was a popular kid, I guess, but only 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.000 because I was funny. I had big ears and I 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:14.920 was skinny, so they made fun of me, and that's 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.879 how it became good and making fun of other people. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:18.879 I was just a class clown. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.320 He did his best to stay out of serious trouble, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:31.199 but he didn't always stick to the rules. On the 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.320 fifteenth of April nineteen ninety four, Lamont decides to skip school. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.639 He decides to spend the day going back and forth 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.760 between his uncle and auntie's houses, kicking back and hanging 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.399 out with his family. It's a pretty regular spring morning 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.240 in Kansas City until he gets the call. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.120 My grandmother called me and said what did you do? 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:56.560 And I said, what do you mean? 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.959 What did I do? She said, what did you do? 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:58.679 Where did you be? 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.000 And I said, I haven't been nowhere. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:00.480 It's early. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.879 It was like still, it wasn't eleven o'clock yet, So 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.159 I say, ain't being nowhere, Grandmother? 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:04.680 What you mean? 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.800 So she said, well, the police just left my house. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.040 They've been all over my house looking for you, and 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.840 it looked seriously like it was looking for you, like 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.560 he killed somebody. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:16.400 I called my mother. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.760 I said, Mom, they looking for me at grandma house, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.320 So take me to the police agent so I can 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.600 see what's going on. She called then and told him 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.080 digging meet us at her job. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.520 Lamon's mother, Rose, isn't going to let her son meet 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.919 the police on his own, so she picks him up 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.679 from his auntie's house. Sitting in the back seat, Lamont 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.160 racks his mind trying to figure out why the police 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.560 are looking for him. He's gotten in trouble in the 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.320 past for selling drugs and being in the wrong place 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.560 with family members caught up in the street life. But 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.959 when he arrives at his mom's workplace, it's clear that 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.640 the cops mean business. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.680 It was three detective cars and like four or five 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:58.840 patrol cars. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.640 They asked me, do I know. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.280 Anything about a gang related activity today? Something gang related today? 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.360 And I said no. They told my mother, well, he's 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.600 not underrest. We want to take him down there for 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.679 questioning and then he'll be able to go in, but 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.240 we just want to ask him a few more questions. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.280 Lamarck complies and says goodbye to his mother. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.199 So they put me in a police car took me 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.119 to the police station. When I get to the police 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.240 station and I got into the room where I was 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.320 being interrogated, that's when everything kind of changed. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.520 They clearly haven't called him in to talk about drugs 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:32.160 or hustling. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.560 They start screaming at me and asking do I know 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.800 Donnie Ewing and Donielle Quinn And I said no. On 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.679 on they said it was funny because one of them 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.560 lived long enough to say you was a person responsible 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:47.320 for killing him, And I started laughing because I didn't 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.920 know his names. Like, man, I'm getting up, I'm telling 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:51.159 him to go to my mom, and I'm like, I 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.240 don't y'all got the wrong person. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:53.840 My name is Lama Macat. I don't know who y'all 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:54.239 looking for. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:56.880 And that's when they got real serious and they started 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.280 screaming at me, you know, calling me a nigga killer, 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.760 saying I know you did it. I was scared because 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.840 he's really going through with charged me with two council 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:05.600 first of your murder. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.280 Lamont had begun the day as a regular teenage boy 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.840 skipping school, but now he's in handcuffs being escorted around 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.720 the police station in a whirlwind of accusations. He doesn't understand. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.840 Two officers march him down the stairs to an underground area. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.159 A mother was part at the police station. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.960 By the time he sees his mother, Lamont is in tears. 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.119 She seen me come out of handcuffs and I said, Mama, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.000 they charged me two councer first of your murdered And 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.400 she said, what do you mean. I said, they charged 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:42.879 me two councer first of your murder. I don't know 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.439 none about it. And that's when it dined on me. 0:20:46.480 --> 0:21:04.080 Though they were serious. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:11.680 I got you, did you ever play a game called 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.800 ding Dong? Ditch when you were a kid, where you 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.359 knock on someone's front door and then run away before 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.800 they can answer. Nico Quinn and her sisters played it 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.720 together as kids growing up in Quendero. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.320 We call it nigga knocking. When somebody come and knock 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.560 on your door, you go to the door. Ain't nobody there. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.160 But this childhood game is about to take a dark turn. 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.680 It's the night after the shooting. She's sitting at home 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.840 with her children when she hears a sound. 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.760 It was a boom boom, bom, bom boom. 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.880 First it's at her front door, and then the. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.160 Back door, the side, and then when I go look, 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.320 there's nobody there. And that's what happened to me. For 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.680 maybe the next week after Don was killed, somebody was 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:01.480 knocking on my door. No, I need to be a 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.640 house full of people down in my house. Nobody had 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.600 been down there after Don had got guilt, not like that. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.480 So she knows it's not her friends or family coming 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.960 to visit her. Nico peers out of her window. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.520 And I see this car sitting outside, a dark colored 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.600 for a door, looked like a caprice or cutless. 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.480 She believes it's cecil and monster, the men she suspects 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.840 of being involved in her cousin, Danielle's murder. 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.479 I was always thinking that they were watching me, they 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.200 were after me. I was scared they would do something 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:36.879 to my kids. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.919 Fearing for her family, Nico packed up her things and 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.040 moved out. She and her kids went to stay with 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.600 different friends and relatives for a while, but it wasn't 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.960 a long term solution. She needed stability. Me and my 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:54.800 boyfriend was talking. 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.280 He said, well, won't you see if the police they 0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:58.960 can do something for you know, they can move you, 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:00.000 relocate you. 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.320 So she called the man who had been assigned to 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:07.320 her cousin's case, Detective Glupski. I was telling him, Hey, 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.480 these people keep knocking on my door. You know, they 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.360 taunt me. I don't feel safe in my home. Detective 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.440 Gulupski agrees to see Nico, but he doesn't want to 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:18.439 meet at the police station. 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.199 He asked me to meet him at Wanda High School. 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.960 Weird, but Nico needs to move, so she agrees. 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.760 I asked my boyfriend what he take me. He said, yeah, 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:29.280 I take you. 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.679 It's not a long drive, but Nico spends the journey 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:36.440 deep in thought. 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:41.879 I was nervous anxious at the same time, because I 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.879 went to tell him what I knew, and I was 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.200 scared a little bit, but I had my ex boyfriend 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:47.480 with me. 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.600 When they parked up next to the high school, her 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:51.640 boyfriend tendses up. 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:53.879 He told me to keep the door open or the 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.600 windowdill because he didn't trust me. 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.119 Most people in Quendero know at least one person who's 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.359 had a bad interrack with law enforcement. But Nico is 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.040 on a mission, so she walks across the road and 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.240