WEBVTT - Building Relationships For Career Success

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for what you say a man day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like watching man like yayay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just really went somewhere. I went, I really went somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the real I just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>your hype woman back up day.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do everything, so you'll know. Every week we

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<v Speaker 1>This week we're gonna do a career question chiw So, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Mandra, the seat is hot and I am in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. What do we got?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read it. Let's fee. Okay, this is from TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't say we can't use her name, So hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy and Tiffany. I recently built up the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>ask a pretty big marketing exec for a coffee chat.

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<v Speaker 1>To my delight, she agreed. I was planning on using

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<v Speaker 1>the time to pick her brain plus talk about myself

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<v Speaker 1>in hopes that she'll remember me should any opportunities open up.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my colleagues just let me know that set

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<v Speaker 1>exec is actually looking to hire someone on her team

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Wow, we love that serendipity. Now I'm racking

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<v Speaker 1>my brain for ways to try to figure out if

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<v Speaker 1>I should be direct and say I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>throw my hat in the ring, or if I should

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<v Speaker 1>be more subtle and just hope that she leaves the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation wanted to hire me. Please Hell thanks ladies, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep killing it on the show warmly. Tj oh, TJ

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<v Speaker 1>that's mynayj oh, tj. That's money. J that's like a song. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm here for it. Tj oh. This is well.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I love that you went for it

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<v Speaker 2>and asked them out for a coffee chat. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is where opportunity. That's sort of like making your own luck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're opportunity and luck meet. You didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that she was hiring. That's not what motivated you to

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<v Speaker 2>reach out, but the fact that you know, like a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of information, I would just be even more excited

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<v Speaker 2>to go on the coffee chat. I think that you're

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about seeing I think this is like one of

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<v Speaker 2>those examples, like we talked about before, Tiffany, of like

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<v Speaker 2>being opportunistic and having that feel like a negative thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like is it two. She uses the word subtle here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I get what she's saying. She's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to seem like I'm only chatting with her because

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<v Speaker 2>I want to work on her team. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you would be I think if this were a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of yours, you would tell them to go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But because it's you, you're like being a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>self conscious about it. So that's cool, Like that's our

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<v Speaker 2>job is to be your bestie and tell you when

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<v Speaker 2>you should get over yourself. And I think TJ is

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<v Speaker 2>time to get over y'all now now, Like Tiff, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in my perspective, from my perspective, what I would say is,

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<v Speaker 2>don't show up and say, oh my god, so and

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<v Speaker 2>so just told me you're looking to hire, Like I'm perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can you open the conversation just completely

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<v Speaker 2>naturally as you would, you know, talking about what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>talk asking what she does. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it will naturally come up in the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>and you could say, oh, well, I mean, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't plan to make this like an conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>this open opportunity, but now that you mentioned it, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would love if you could consider me and you

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<v Speaker 2>think I could be a good fit because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>based on what you've said, I bring XYZ to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that could happen is like what if

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<v Speaker 2>you're sitting there for half an hour and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up, you know, so then it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>should I say something? Should I say something? And the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I would the way that I would approach

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<v Speaker 2>that is if you're like three quarters of the way

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<v Speaker 2>through this meeting and it hasn't come up, I would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can I can I run something by you? Like so

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<v Speaker 2>and so just mentioned in passing that maybe you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for this position. I don't know if that's true or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just wanted to see if you have any

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<v Speaker 2>plans to expand your team because I, based on this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it would be great to work together.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'd love if you could tell me

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<v Speaker 2>more and then give them a chance to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about it. That to me is like a good mix

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<v Speaker 2>of confidence and being casual. You know, like you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to seem too thirsty. You want to make it

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<v Speaker 2>seem casual, and then you're also showing your confidence by

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<v Speaker 2>keeping it cool and just sort of bringing it up

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<v Speaker 2>like sort of casually like hey, so, so and so

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<v Speaker 2>said this is that true girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said this. I love that fact that Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>that you said like three quarters of the way in

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to come in like, hey girl,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you just hiring a key shirt? Anyway? So

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<v Speaker 1>hire me. I'm a fit because the thing is you

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<v Speaker 1>wanting that you illustrate your Oprah ahead of time, remember

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about that, like, which is like everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>you know if Oprah said I'm gonna open up my rolodex,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you come up with fifty dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours and I will share you with all

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<v Speaker 1>of my contacts, we would find the money because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's intrinsic value in her and having access

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<v Speaker 1>to who she has access to. So one, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to use the first part of your conversation to illustrate

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<v Speaker 1>your oprah. So one, obviously you want to ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>about them. Then you want to share about yourself, but

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<v Speaker 1>sharing about yourself in a way that shows your value,

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<v Speaker 1>your intrinsic value. You know, Yeah, I worked on this

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<v Speaker 1>and I did that, and you know, I was really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this and that was challenging, but I figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out, you know. And then to Mandy's point, if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't bring up the position, you can bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Because for me, if someone people ask me for coffee

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<v Speaker 1>dates and lunch dates and walk dates and blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>bah all the time, and you know, if I'm available,

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of my mentors just asked me, I say yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I like that she asked me questions about

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<v Speaker 1>what I have going on. I love hearing what they

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<v Speaker 1>have going on. And sometimes there is a connection. This

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<v Speaker 1>just happened where someone reached out to me. My sister

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa was working with this young woman and she knew

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for a new EA and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I told her to reach out to you. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the last component of it, I met her, she would

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<v Speaker 1>seemed really nice. The last component she shares that one

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<v Speaker 1>of her additional skills is she's really good at editing

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<v Speaker 1>video and stuff. And I was like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be good for EE because she's really young. She

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<v Speaker 1>had not really done it, but I was a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>send me some clips and some videos you've done, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now I think I might hire her. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I mean? Like to Mandy's point that

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<v Speaker 1>little slip in, I'm like, maybe not that. Yeah, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>this over here, and she sent me her clips. They

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<v Speaker 1>look great, And honestly, I think we might hire her

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<v Speaker 1>to do some videos for us. And that wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>happened if she didn't give us additional information and background

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<v Speaker 1>on what she's capable of doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I mean it's also good to

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<v Speaker 2>go into an interview or like not an interview, but

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<v Speaker 2>a casual conversation, just open minded, Like even if she's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this role and you realize as she's speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about it that you're not the exact right fit, you

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<v Speaker 2>could then be generous and say, man, that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I know so and so, and I feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>have that skill set they could be really good and

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<v Speaker 2>don't look at it as like talking yourself out of

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<v Speaker 2>a position, because okay, what's for you can't miss you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're going to put yourself out there for

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<v Speaker 2>a job, you want it to be one that you'd

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<v Speaker 2>actually excel in, not just be taken whatever comes across

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<v Speaker 2>your desk. Right. So yeah, if you can even just

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<v Speaker 2>like think of a way to help them or like

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<v Speaker 2>have an idea that you can share with whatever challenges

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<v Speaker 2>she's facing or whatever, you know, whatever projects are going on, right,

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<v Speaker 2>then anything that you can bring a value is going

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<v Speaker 2>to stick in her mind. And even if you leave

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation without like a full on hey you should

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<v Speaker 2>apply for this role, you can just you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>goal for you, I think would be to have her

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<v Speaker 2>walk away having a positive experience with you, remembering that

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<v Speaker 2>you are someone who wants to contribute and has ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that she will soon forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if it's not that opportunity that opens up, another

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<v Speaker 2>one could be opening up down the line that she

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<v Speaker 2>could come back to you for.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl said, we wish you, we wish you, we love

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<v Speaker 1>that you are, like, we wish you well. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you. No, it said, I wish you look,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you what's that Dead Jackson song? I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you love? Oh uh, I miss you not not our

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<v Speaker 1>producer have to come in and gather me together. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>We don't miss you because we don't know you. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna change it too. We wish you well. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we wish you. I love the fact that you are

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<v Speaker 1>go get her. Yeah you were like, yo, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for this lunch. That to me, that's indicative.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be really impressed because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>just don't even do that. That's indicative like of like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so one who even if this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a fit, I want to work with somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of like I'm going to go for a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm wanting. So you know, TJ. That's my DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that for you and continue to do that

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<v Speaker 1>because relationship building is a number one tool that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn how to develop if you are going to,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the workforce, like reach any level of success.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think about it all the time whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>needing a thing, even in business. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how many times I have to make a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my, oh my gosh, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Sandy, but I met her ten years ago, or

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<v Speaker 1>that's Mandy. I know Mandy for the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years. That's and so building those relationships oftentimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>years in the making and then there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>synergy and then you're not reaching out in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that feels predatory, because it's like, no, I've been building

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship for years. We genuinely, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>and care about each other, and now there's some synergy

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<v Speaker 1>here where I can help them or they can help me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so people love that. So continue to act. We

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<v Speaker 1>build relationships with the knowledge that it might take years

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<v Speaker 1>to mature before there's any sort of professional synergy, if

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<v Speaker 1>any at all. Just building for building's sake is always

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<v Speaker 1>really good. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you TJ for your question, ba Fam. If you

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<v Speaker 1>Leave us a review with job yeah, thank you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we have any new reviews that we can read? So

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<v Speaker 1>the girl and see that. You know, we appreciate reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's throw it back we have. We just read another review.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say cute?

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<v Speaker 2>She let me see cute is not one of the words,

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<v Speaker 2>but she does call us a a breath of fresh air.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds cute, sharing real life experiences. Still, she says

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<v Speaker 2>we're blazing with informative and educational info that holds their attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And then we have read a check

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<v Speaker 2>who says I feel at home with this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>learn loads of information in an authentic way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>find their episode so precious and uplifting. I'm in a

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<v Speaker 2>career transition, transition, a career transition, and really need this

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<v Speaker 2>these episodes. Thank you again.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Yeah. Come on, keep us leaving us reviews

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how we grow and continue to be able

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, do you do it like this, Tiffany? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you do the news millennial?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it. I don't even know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I don't even do this heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do a heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I would be more likely to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess or this maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now you're just supposed to do half the heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and then can we do it here?

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<v Speaker 1>Try to match my way on the side half? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yea yeah, wait here we go, come over here.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart doesn't look what does.

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<v Speaker 2>Your hand look like that for?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that can do that? My hands, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it. No one taught me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>as learning. That's gonna be the clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm sorry to your hand. It's just your sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to that hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that hand.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. We're going to see you on Monday for our

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<v Speaker 1>throwback and yeah, we just wish you well.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye,