WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Is Dak on the Hot Seat? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.200 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.080 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.440 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:20.800 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:27.040 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:31.400 It is Monday, August sixth, two thousand eighteen, Season fourteen, 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.120 episode number twenty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.040 live from Oxnard, California. It is a sunny Monday, it 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.680 is whis just over half the time we're gonna spend 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.159 out here. We're about halfway done before we're heading back home. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.320 We'll finish up camp next Friday, August seventeenth. I won't 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.080 be heading back to the Star. And just so you 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.000 guys know, there's gonna be a little bit of a 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.360 difference in schedule this week and uh and some of 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.440 next week because we'll have the game this week. We'll 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.240 be traveling to San Francisco for that. UM, so just 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.880 know um that this week you'll have to check the 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.240 schedule on the website to know when the shows are 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.560 going to happen. Because they won't be every day. Definitely 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.120 have a show to day. Definitely have a show tomorrow, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.360 and then it'll get a little wonky here for the 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.080 rest of the week. All Right, how's everybody doing some 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.680 more on the show tomorrow. I'm not on the show tomorrow. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.480 I'm not on whatever show might happen Wednesday, I'm not 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.120 on whatever show might happen Friday, not on any shows Monday. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.039 Then I won't be on any shows on Tuesday. So 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.440 you're just going back. You're going back on your off 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.800 season grind, is what you're saying. Pretty much. I got 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.320 like a lot of meetings and stuff coming up here, 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.759 so it will be you guys will be rolling. And 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:46.120 that's why that prepare. You prepare them even when they 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.080 don't know. They're preparing for for what the future may. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.640 Oh my god. That's what we do, baby, what we do. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.480 All right. So uh, let's let's get into this and 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.680 talk a little bit about the Yesterday Cowboys had a 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.520 Blue White scrimmage. And for those to you guys that 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.400 didn't see the scrimmage live, you gotta go back and 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.000 watch it. I actually went back last night and I 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.160 saw it live. But I went back and watched the 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.239 broadcast of it that the team did, and it was 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.400 really really good stuff, not just watching as much as 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.160 it was just the information that you guys were putting down. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.120 Of course, Dave and Nick Ron and we had Brian 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.560 and Nate and Rob and Lindsay were giving sideline reports 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.920 and they had interviews with different people that are that 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.760 are part of the executive team of the Cowboys UM 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.120 and then obviously you got to see the practice and 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.679 the scrimmage, so really really great stuff. If you have 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.640 a connected TV device, that's the best way to do it, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.360 right there on your television where you can watch it, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.239 or you can go to our website or mobile app 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.720 to be able to watch it as well. But let's 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.679 talk about that. I want to go down the line 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.200 and I want each to you to give me an 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.560 observed observation that you got that or that you had 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.680 during that time that you think would be interesting to share. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.880 Let's start with you Nick. Well, I hate the words scrimmage, 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.320 so maybe we would stop calling it that, but they're 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.600 still gonna call like they have for the last thirty 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:06.160 forty years. But was there any tackles out there? Yeah? There, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.360 I didn't see any tackle. There was a couple Zeke, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.560 give him the ball. He's good. He's good. It doesn't matter. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.640 I don't care if they're tackling or two hand touch 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.400 or pulling flags or whatever. He was gonna have a 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.560 few big, really big plays in there. That's how big. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.840 That's how open some of the blocking was, that's how 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.520 much he was out in space. I know there were 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.919 some other players that really had some standout things, but 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.640 I think we saw again that when he's on the 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.200 field and he's running the ball, how effective he's going 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.680 to be. And he's gonna make number four look better, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.880 which is needed right now for him to make him 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.000 look better, make that whole offense look better. But it 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.320 starts with Zeke. I thought he did a nice job yesterday. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.040 I'm botter, no sorry, I just no go ahead. No. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.280 And one of the things that you mentioned the other 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.720 day and you pointed it out yesterday again was when 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.760 the defender comes running up to seek and basically tops 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.640 it him and he's like, oh, bacle, you down, And 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.280 you know that's that's not gonna stop seeking. He's gonna 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.920 get those extra yards if not finished the run completely. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.040 So that's always something to keep in mind and to 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.880 figure out, Okay, sometimes the defense is not necessarily as 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.800 great as we think it is, just because they're not 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.480 able to go full on with it, or vice versa. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.200 The offense is not us great certain players, of course. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.839 But anyways, one of the things, Dan Bailey didn't miss 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:32.560 anything yesterday. That was good, so good a good day 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.960 for Dan Bailey. Aside from that, one of the things 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.440 I noticed Rico and I always talk about him. I 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.960 mentioned him yesterday. He has been playing well, and you 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.440 gotta give him that. He makes those catches, and I 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.800 have I believe in the preseason game he's gonna make 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.560 certain catches, probably get a few touchdowns, and then everyone's 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.800 gonna get on the Rico hype train again and then 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.920 it's like, oh, we got this awesome tight end X 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.800 basketball player blah blah blah. But I don't know. We'll 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.440 see what happens there and if the Cowboys finally do 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.919 decide to utilize him. But as of right now, he's 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.479 looking good at certain times. I can't help but share 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.240 this story, even though Nick already touched on Zeke, but 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.320 it is it is hard to gauge a running back 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.520 in these practices when a defender. All he has to 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.359 do is shove him to end the play, which is 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.479 why it was so impressive. Zeke scored from twenty yards 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.599 out yesterday in a non tackle practice. I mean that 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.920 think about but think about what that means. Jeff Heath 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.960 didn't touch him until he was on the one yard 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.719 line from the twenty I mean against in the NFL. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.400 That's crazy. I mean, he looks awesome out there. He 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.680 actually had a couple over there in the in the 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.240 far and zone over here, he had a couple runs 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.200 that were back to back. Where he was he I 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.400 don't know if he was that. He may have been 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.680 a little bit closer that, but on both the back 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.279 to back runs he got right down to to the 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.359 end zone without anybody test he put the ball across 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.880 at both times. Is that the play? Yeah? And there 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.840 was another one right after that one, same thing, right. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.200 It was awesome. Um, Tavon Austin, he I mean, he 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.000 he scares me because I don't sure a guy that 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.160 can jump. It's true, You're right, not me. I was 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.840 about to say, you're probably talking about David probably talking 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.000 about a sixteen inch vertical for me, But Avon's is 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.760 a little better. Really, yeah, I can go hire that. Um, 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.200 I'm afraid of falling in love with this guy and 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.400 having it not pan out like you know, I mean, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.039 you know people, I would like to think they they 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.440 weigh our words at least somewhat heavily, like we're not 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.400 lying to you. This guy looks awesome out here, but 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.680 I want to see it translates so bad because he's 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.279 doing everything. Like the first play of red zone with 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.200 the first team, he took an end a round, he 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.559 ran out of space on the sideline and cut it back, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.720 sort of got Taco Charlton hurting the process, but that's okay. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.240 He was fine, caught it up field, picked up like 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.000 twelve yards. Uh. Five minutes later he caught an inside 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.960 I think on Byron Jones, I don't remember. And then 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.320 two minutes after that with the second team, he went downfield. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.920 And that's what Amber's talking about. He's skied over char 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.640 Various Ward and literally took the ball off his helmet 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.840 and scored a touchdown. And that was from the exposition. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.800 He did it on the outside downfield, twenty yards downfield. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.400 He did a little bit of everything, and that's not 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.840 even including special teams. Is. I mean, I'm excited about 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.960 what he might be. I just hope it translates to 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.680 the season. Yeah, you know what scares me is I 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.280 look at him out here and it's kind of what 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:32.800 you're saying. I look at him out here, and he 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.280 looks so good out here, and then I keep in 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.560 the back of my mind thinking, why hasn't he become 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.640 that great receiver with the Rams, Like he's always obviously 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.680 had this ability, he's always been fast, extremely fast. Why 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.040 hasn't it been better? Why hasn't his career been better? 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.640 And so that's what keeps me kind of at arms link. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.600 Absolutely just don't know. I just don't know. But my 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.200 hope is that for a lot of those years he 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.440 didn't really probably have the greatest quarter back, you know, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.360 playing with him. The Rams just now got to the 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.640 point where you could say they got a pretty good quarterback. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.280 So they had some years there where you couldn't really 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.440 trust that. But all in all, that's the part that 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.000 makes you a little nervous. But you gotta like what 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.560 you're seeing so far as long as your expectations aren't, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.680 you know, number seventh overall pick that. That's what I 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.000 think got him in trouble there with the rams, and rightfully, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.240 so you draft the guy that high. He's got to 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:30.760 be a dynamic, you know, catalytic player every single time. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.240 And he you know, he's banged up something, but he 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.080 comes over here. And if he can be this role player, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.319 gadget type guy that gets the ball, he goes down 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.439 the field, some side, decide some pump and return some 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.160 and you're not counting on him to just absolutely be 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.840 the savior of your offense or special teams, then I 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.720 think you got a really good role player. We see 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.120 it a lot in the NBA, where you see a 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.000 guy drafted eighth overall. He's not good enough to do that. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.200 He goes to another team. He's a bust. He goes 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.320 with another team, he's the sixth man, seventh man off 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.480 the bench. He's a really good role player. That's where 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.719 he should have been along, But the first team had 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.480 to justify drafting him that way and playing him that way. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.440 If he's your third best player, you're great the second round. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.880 If he is the best player you got in your offense, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.840 you're probably in a little bit of trouble. He reminds 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.079 me a lot of Reggie Bush from my days as 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.480 a Saints fan. Just yeah, I mean which you know 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.720 Reggie obviously he was a running back. He took the ball, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.520 he took handoffs a lot more. But for where he 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.000 was drafted, he's a disappointing player. He's the number two 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.040 overall pick. He was a nice compliment to that offense 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.040 and had a very nice career in a lot of 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.800 different ways. And that's why his rookie year was a 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.040 year that impressed everybody because he wasn't counted on to 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.160 be the man, but he made some plays that were 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.640 phenomenal for them. He was a crucial piece of the 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.839 Super Bowl team. He just wasn't the guy. Leonard Davis. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.760 Leonard Davis was a guy that Cowboy fans will remember. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.920 Number two overall pick for the Raiders, no Cardinals, sorry 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.520 for the Cardinals, and drafted you know, to play left 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.280 tackle because he's you know, he got to take him, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.560 you know, that big guy. And he wasn't the tackle. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.280 He was a guard. He goes to the Cowboys in 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.760 free agency, made three Pro Bowls. You know, so it 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.319 sometimes it takes a second stop to kind of figure 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.719 out exactly what your role is and maybe this is 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.720 it for him. I like the fact that we saw 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.160 him down the field. You saw him go east west, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.920 and from what I hear from talking to the special 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.520 team's coach Keith O'Quinn, he's like, we don't need to 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.000 see him in the punt return in the preseason. We 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.040 know what he's gonna do. Fourteen is gonna be back there, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.520 Lance Lenoir. He's gonna be hold your breath on that one. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.840 He's gonna be doing the punt return duties for a 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.160 while and then what Yeah, well, I mean he's that's 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.679 not his thing. I mean, that's not his forte. He's 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.280 doing great things the other receiver, but uh, you know, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.480 he struggled a little bit punt return. Let's see if 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.120 he's better this year. I'm glad you brought that name 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.160 because those were there were a couple names that you 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.280 guys obviously didn't mention you he mentioned the names you did. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.280 But I do want to talk a little bit about 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.880 what Lance Lenore. He made an outstanding catch yesterday. I 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.080 thought he had a pretty good day. And then talk 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.920 about the defense, because it started off the offense was 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.840 just humming there at the beginning of the of the practice. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.320 By the time you got about midway through and the 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.559 later part the defense started coming on. They got several interceptions. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.320 Anthony Brown gotta pick talk about talk about those two, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.559 talk about Lancelore, and then talk about that defense, particularly 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.439 the secondary, and how they performed in the second half 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.760 of practice. Would you say I didn't hear what you said. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.800 I was just I just basically say, once Chad got 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.760 in there on offense, you know that defense started picking up. Well, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.000 it's the second team offensive line. I mean it's the 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:31.200 second team offense. I mean great offensive line, very below average. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.120 I guess that you would say, I mean none we 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.199 talked about yesterday, None of these offensive linemen. Really you think, oh, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.680 he's gonna make it. I mean, Looney's pretty good. He 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.160 actually got worked with the first team because Frederick was 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.959 being held out. So it's just a huge drop off, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.600 of course it is. I mean, you can't draft all 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.480 these first round linemen and then all of a sudden, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.480 so I think that the second round is good. But yeah, yeah, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.440 the defense picked it up. Sorry, oh they didn't. Well, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.280 I mean I think I said on our on the 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.880 TV broadcast yesterday, like it's just it's fallen into place 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.280 for Lenore, like a game of you know, like the 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.840 way tetris lines up when you're good at Tetris, Like 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.640 it's all just fallen into place. Um, he made an 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.400 outstanding catch on a fade route in the back corner 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.640 of the end zone. He just keeps doing I mean, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.160 he does all the little stuff right, but then he 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.200 usually makes an eyecatching play at least once per practice. Um, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.840 it's early. I mean we haven't played a game, and 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.240 we know he had his struggles in the games last year. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.679 You know, I want to see what it's like when 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.520 Noah Brown comes back and there's gonna be some competition 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.040 from other guys. That's the problem is it's so competitive 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.000 and there's so few spots. I feel really good about 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.160 the work that he's done, but he's I mean, he's 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.120 got to keep it up. He just bores me. I 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.640 don't know what it is, really yeah, because he doesn't 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.800 you know what, because he doesn't do anything like one 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:49.959 thing like outstanding it to me, which which catches every 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.120 freaking thing they throw at him. It seems like I'm 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.440 with you, Nick on this one. It's like I see 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.480 him being a great player doing like preseason games, but 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.360 then regular season comes I'm just like, that's nothing against him. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.360 That's nothing against him. It's probably more on me. I 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.840 just like, you know, and you see you want to 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.960 oh you run too four, two five, or he's sixty 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.080 three or he's Noah Brown and he's like really strong, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.439 he's the best blocker. I don't see Lance Lenora as 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.800 the best or even the top one or two of 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.840 any of the of the skill sets other than show 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.720 up at work every single day in the off season 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.120 and catch every pass. I mean he did do that, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.120 which is why he's probably in this boat right now. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.560 That's I mean, that's probably what Dak Prescott is looking for. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.960 Like we roll our eyes at you know, like after practice, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.679 like the guys lie on the ground and catch the 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.320 ball and you're like, all right, are you are you 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.160 do really working at this? Are you doing this for show? 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.400 And you know he's there every day during the off season, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.480 like but you see it have results. Case in point, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.440 like maybe one of my favorite plays a training camp 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.960 last week. He runs a dig route. He literally slipped 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.800 and fell fell on his butt, got up just enough 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.800 to pick his arms up. The ball was already coming 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.280 at him and he caught it from his belt butt base. Basically, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.240 it was a fantastic I mean it was only an 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.720 eight yard game, but it's just that's that's the result 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.199 of working every single day of the offseason. And no, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.600 you're I mean, he's not the biggest he doesn't make 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.560 the most highlight plays, but he can play every position 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.880 in the offense. And I haven't seen him drop a 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.760 ball since we got out here. I think, to me, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.520 when it comes down to it, if Lance Lenore sitting there, like, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.640 you know what, we can keep Lenore. I just have 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.360 this feeling, and maybe I'm wrong. They just have this 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.240 feeling that of all the guys that are going to 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.280 get cut on that Saturday of receivers, I just feel 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.920 like there's gonna be a lot of them better than him. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.800 They won't know the offense. So that I'll say that Butler, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.760 every every single year we fall for a guy who 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.920 we're like, there's no way he gets through waivers, there's 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.560 just no way, and then they cut him and he 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.200 gets through waivers. Not saying it's not possible, like he 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.680 could be a great practice squad addition, but to my point, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.880 like when it comes time for that conversation, yeah I can, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.360 I can easily imagine a conversation where Dak Prescott is like, yeah, Okay, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.200 that guy's more talented, Like, I trust this guy. He 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.960 can do everything thing we need him to do in 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.920 the offense, and I know where he's gonna be and 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.360 I know he's gonna catch it when I throw it 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.600 to him. That is the definition of Dak. Absolutely, that's it, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.080 and that's I trust fourteen to be where I need 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.400 him to be. I didn't always trust all of the 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.840 other guys to be exactly where I need him to be, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.800 not where the play needs to be, is where I 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.040 need him to be. I think I've said this before 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.440 already on this show, but I really think if Lanceor 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.680 makes this team, it's gonna tell us a lot about 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.840 the sway that Dak has. I just think it means 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.440 that he's got some pull in that room, because that's 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.320 the main reason to keep him is because he works 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.200 well with that and he catches the ball. If the 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.600 offense is built around running the ball and using the 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.480 passing game as necessary, it is important to have receiving 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.600 threats that are able to get open to catch that 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.560 third and sixth ball and be reliably get open catch 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.200 it right. And so that's where a guy like Lancelor 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.800 makes a ton more sense than even a guy, say 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.840 like Dez Bryant, who is can make those spectacular plays, 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.480 but as we saw last year, may not be as consistently, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.640 it may not sistantly catch that slant route and just 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.480 to get you the first nun, I'm not there yet. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.440 With no no no no, no, no no no, I'm 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.560 not trying to say Lanceloor is better than him. I'm 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.560 saying the point is, if you think about the philosophy 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.880 and how the team is progressing at the wide receiver position, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.400 I think they've made the decision we prefer to have 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.880 those less flashy, less and I don't even want to 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.960 say less talented, but guys that may not be able 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.400 to make some of those spectacular plays if they can 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.840 be just consistently where they're supposed to be and catch 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.280 the ball in those in those those critical downs, like, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.640 that's what I think they're looking. Let's go. Let's go 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.400 back to Rico really quick, and Amber's point about how 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.480 well he's looking. He's looking. He's doing a nice job 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.800 in the red zone. He plays the game like a 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.200 basketball player, especially in the red zone. He kind of 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.720 finds just like you would if you were posting up. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.800 You know, you use that big body, you look for 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.800 the holes, you find it, and you you, you know, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.000 get that your frame ready to make the catch. Can 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.720 they get the air to the red zone with him? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.640 Is the question? Can he be a tied end that 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.880 can help them in between the twenties at where you 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.800 know it's third and four at midfield? Can he make 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.280 those necessary blocks and plays like that down in the 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.280 red zone he could be a weapon? Is that worthy 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.919 enough to just have him on the roster just for 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.320 those type of things? You know, yes, he can do 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.359 well right there, but can he be in every down 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.240 type of tight end to justify his spot? Well, the 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.320 one thing I will say about that is right now, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.000 I don't think the area where you would say he's 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.040 deficient in blocking, there aren't a lot of other guys 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.000 here at the tight end position who do it well. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.800 Not here, so yeah. But so my point is when 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.720 you start comparing him, I think you're going to be 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.720 comparing these guys and saying, Okay, who's best at catching passes, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.000 who's best in the red zone, who's best at blocking? 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.600 I think he's gonna fit favorably in a lot of 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.760 those categories. Blocking may not be it, but I don't 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.240 know that there are a lot of other guys who do. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.720 What if we don't make him in every down tight end? Like, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.600 what if would it be possible to just carve out 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.560 a meaningful enough role for Rico on special teams to 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.720 where he can be useful in that regard and then 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.720 he only comes in the game once you get to, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.880 like the twenty five yard line. I'm all in on that. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.919 That doesn't sound like anything Jason Garrett would ever entertain. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.879 But unless, of course, you don't have a guy like 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.680 Jason Witten, you're having the peace feel it. Yeah, tell 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.080 tell me that if somebody's kicking a fifty four yard 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.560 field goal that he can't stand three steps behind the 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.520 nose tackle one two three jump, That is gonna be 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.639 a very tough That's gonna be a tough roadblock for 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.360 any kick. And he can jump. He's tall, he's wide, 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.440 and he can jump. He will block a couple of 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.120 kicks if they put him there. He will. I mean 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.760 that that that right, there is a we especially long kicks. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.119 Whit it has to be a little more lovely. Yeah, absolutely, right, now, 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.359 it's easy for me to not put Rico on a 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.959 fifty three man projection right now. But if he plays 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:50.040 like he did in the preseason again, yeah, and especially 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.200