1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: It is Monday, August sixth, two thousand eighteen, Season fourteen, 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: episode number twenty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: live from Oxnard, California. It is a sunny Monday, it 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: is whis just over half the time we're gonna spend 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: out here. We're about halfway done before we're heading back home. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: We'll finish up camp next Friday, August seventeenth. I won't 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: be heading back to the Star. And just so you 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: guys know, there's gonna be a little bit of a 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: difference in schedule this week and uh and some of 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: next week because we'll have the game this week. We'll 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: be traveling to San Francisco for that. UM, so just 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: know um that this week you'll have to check the 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: schedule on the website to know when the shows are 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: going to happen. Because they won't be every day. Definitely 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: have a show to day. Definitely have a show tomorrow, 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: and then it'll get a little wonky here for the 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: rest of the week. All Right, how's everybody doing some 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: more on the show tomorrow. I'm not on the show tomorrow. 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm not on whatever show might happen Wednesday, I'm not 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: on whatever show might happen Friday, not on any shows Monday. 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Then I won't be on any shows on Tuesday. So 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: you're just going back. You're going back on your off 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: season grind, is what you're saying. Pretty much. I got 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of meetings and stuff coming up here, 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: so it will be you guys will be rolling. And 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: that's why that prepare. You prepare them even when they 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: don't know. They're preparing for for what the future may. 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's what we do, baby, what we do. 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: All right. So uh, let's let's get into this and 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Yesterday Cowboys had a 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Blue White scrimmage. And for those to you guys that 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: didn't see the scrimmage live, you gotta go back and 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: watch it. I actually went back last night and I 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: saw it live. But I went back and watched the 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: broadcast of it that the team did, and it was 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: really really good stuff, not just watching as much as 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: it was just the information that you guys were putting down. 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Of course, Dave and Nick Ron and we had Brian 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and Nate and Rob and Lindsay were giving sideline reports 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: and they had interviews with different people that are that 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: are part of the executive team of the Cowboys UM 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: and then obviously you got to see the practice and 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: the scrimmage, so really really great stuff. If you have 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: a connected TV device, that's the best way to do it, 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: right there on your television where you can watch it, 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: or you can go to our website or mobile app 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: to be able to watch it as well. But let's 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: talk about that. I want to go down the line 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and I want each to you to give me an 56 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: observed observation that you got that or that you had 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: during that time that you think would be interesting to share. 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with you Nick. Well, I hate the words scrimmage, 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: so maybe we would stop calling it that, but they're 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: still gonna call like they have for the last thirty 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: forty years. But was there any tackles out there? Yeah? There, 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I didn't see any tackle. There was a couple Zeke, 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: give him the ball. He's good. He's good. It doesn't matter. 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't care if they're tackling or two hand touch 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: or pulling flags or whatever. He was gonna have a 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: few big, really big plays in there. That's how big. 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: That's how open some of the blocking was, that's how 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: much he was out in space. I know there were 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: some other players that really had some standout things, but 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: I think we saw again that when he's on the 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: field and he's running the ball, how effective he's going 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: to be. And he's gonna make number four look better, 73 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: which is needed right now for him to make him 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: look better, make that whole offense look better. But it 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: starts with Zeke. I thought he did a nice job yesterday. 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm botter, no sorry, I just no go ahead. No. 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: And one of the things that you mentioned the other 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: day and you pointed it out yesterday again was when 79 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: the defender comes running up to seek and basically tops 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: it him and he's like, oh, bacle, you down, And 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: you know that's that's not gonna stop seeking. He's gonna 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: get those extra yards if not finished the run completely. 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: So that's always something to keep in mind and to 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, sometimes the defense is not necessarily as 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: great as we think it is, just because they're not 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: able to go full on with it, or vice versa. 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: The offense is not us great certain players, of course. 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: But anyways, one of the things, Dan Bailey didn't miss 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: anything yesterday. That was good, so good a good day 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: for Dan Bailey. Aside from that, one of the things 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I noticed Rico and I always talk about him. I 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: mentioned him yesterday. He has been playing well, and you 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: gotta give him that. He makes those catches, and I 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: have I believe in the preseason game he's gonna make 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: certain catches, probably get a few touchdowns, and then everyone's 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna get on the Rico hype train again and then 97 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we got this awesome tight end X 98 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: basketball player blah blah blah. But I don't know. We'll 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: see what happens there and if the Cowboys finally do 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: decide to utilize him. But as of right now, he's 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: looking good at certain times. I can't help but share 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: this story, even though Nick already touched on Zeke, but 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: it is it is hard to gauge a running back 104 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: in these practices when a defender. All he has to 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: do is shove him to end the play, which is 106 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: why it was so impressive. Zeke scored from twenty yards 107 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: out yesterday in a non tackle practice. I mean that 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: think about but think about what that means. Jeff Heath 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: didn't touch him until he was on the one yard 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: line from the twenty I mean against in the NFL. 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, he looks awesome out there. He 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: actually had a couple over there in the in the 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: far and zone over here, he had a couple runs 114 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: that were back to back. Where he was he I 115 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he was that. He may have been 116 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: a little bit closer that, but on both the back 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: to back runs he got right down to to the 118 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: end zone without anybody test he put the ball across 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: at both times. Is that the play? Yeah? And there 120 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: was another one right after that one, same thing, right. 121 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Um, Tavon Austin, he I mean, he 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: he scares me because I don't sure a guy that 123 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: can jump. It's true, You're right, not me. I was 124 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: about to say, you're probably talking about David probably talking 125 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: about a sixteen inch vertical for me, But Avon's is 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: a little better. Really, yeah, I can go hire that. Um, 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of falling in love with this guy and 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: having it not pan out like you know, I mean, 129 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: you know people, I would like to think they they 130 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: weigh our words at least somewhat heavily, like we're not 131 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: lying to you. This guy looks awesome out here, but 132 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I want to see it translates so bad because he's 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: doing everything. Like the first play of red zone with 134 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: the first team, he took an end a round, he 135 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: ran out of space on the sideline and cut it back, 136 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: sort of got Taco Charlton hurting the process, but that's okay. 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: He was fine, caught it up field, picked up like 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: twelve yards. Uh. Five minutes later he caught an inside 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I think on Byron Jones, I don't remember. And then 140 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: two minutes after that with the second team, he went downfield. 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: And that's what Amber's talking about. He's skied over char 142 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Various Ward and literally took the ball off his helmet 143 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. And that was from the exposition. 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: He did it on the outside downfield, twenty yards downfield. 145 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: He did a little bit of everything, and that's not 146 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: even including special teams. Is. I mean, I'm excited about 147 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: what he might be. I just hope it translates to 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, you know what scares me is I 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: look at him out here and it's kind of what 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: you're saying. I look at him out here, and he 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: looks so good out here, and then I keep in 152 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the back of my mind thinking, why hasn't he become 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: that great receiver with the Rams, Like he's always obviously 154 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: had this ability, he's always been fast, extremely fast. Why 155 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: hasn't it been better? Why hasn't his career been better? 156 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: And so that's what keeps me kind of at arms link. 157 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely just don't know. I just don't know. But my 158 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: hope is that for a lot of those years he 159 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: didn't really probably have the greatest quarter back, you know, 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: playing with him. The Rams just now got to the 161 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: point where you could say they got a pretty good quarterback. 162 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So they had some years there where you couldn't really 163 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: trust that. But all in all, that's the part that 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: makes you a little nervous. But you gotta like what 165 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing so far as long as your expectations aren't, 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, number seventh overall pick that. That's what I 167 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: think got him in trouble there with the rams, and rightfully, 168 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: so you draft the guy that high. He's got to 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: be a dynamic, you know, catalytic player every single time. 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: And he you know, he's banged up something, but he 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: comes over here. And if he can be this role player, 172 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: gadget type guy that gets the ball, he goes down 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: the field, some side, decide some pump and return some 174 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and you're not counting on him to just absolutely be 175 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: the savior of your offense or special teams, then I 176 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: think you got a really good role player. We see 177 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: it a lot in the NBA, where you see a 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: guy drafted eighth overall. He's not good enough to do that. 179 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: He goes to another team. He's a bust. He goes 180 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: with another team, he's the sixth man, seventh man off 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: the bench. He's a really good role player. That's where 182 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: he should have been along, But the first team had 183 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: to justify drafting him that way and playing him that way. 184 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: If he's your third best player, you're great the second round. 185 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: If he is the best player you got in your offense, 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: you're probably in a little bit of trouble. He reminds 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: me a lot of Reggie Bush from my days as 188 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: a Saints fan. Just yeah, I mean which you know 189 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Reggie obviously he was a running back. He took the ball, 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: he took handoffs a lot more. But for where he 191 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: was drafted, he's a disappointing player. He's the number two 192 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: overall pick. He was a nice compliment to that offense 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and had a very nice career in a lot of 194 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: different ways. And that's why his rookie year was a 195 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: year that impressed everybody because he wasn't counted on to 196 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: be the man, but he made some plays that were 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: phenomenal for them. He was a crucial piece of the 198 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. He just wasn't the guy. Leonard Davis. 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Leonard Davis was a guy that Cowboy fans will remember. 200 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Number two overall pick for the Raiders, no Cardinals, sorry 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, and drafted you know, to play left 202 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: tackle because he's you know, he got to take him, 203 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, that big guy. And he wasn't the tackle. 204 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: He was a guard. He goes to the Cowboys in 205 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: free agency, made three Pro Bowls. You know, so it 206 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: sometimes it takes a second stop to kind of figure 207 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: out exactly what your role is and maybe this is 208 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: it for him. I like the fact that we saw 209 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: him down the field. You saw him go east west, 210 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and from what I hear from talking to the special 211 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: team's coach Keith O'Quinn, he's like, we don't need to 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: see him in the punt return in the preseason. We 213 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do. Fourteen is gonna be back there, 214 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Lance Lenoir. He's gonna be hold your breath on that one. 215 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be doing the punt return duties for a 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: while and then what Yeah, well, I mean he's that's 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: not his thing. I mean, that's not his forte. He's 218 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: doing great things the other receiver, but uh, you know, 219 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: he struggled a little bit punt return. Let's see if 220 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: he's better this year. I'm glad you brought that name 221 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: because those were there were a couple names that you 222 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: guys obviously didn't mention you he mentioned the names you did. 223 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: But I do want to talk a little bit about 224 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: what Lance Lenore. He made an outstanding catch yesterday. I 225 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: thought he had a pretty good day. And then talk 226 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: about the defense, because it started off the offense was 227 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: just humming there at the beginning of the of the practice. 228 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: By the time you got about midway through and the 229 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: later part the defense started coming on. They got several interceptions. 230 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown gotta pick talk about talk about those two, 231 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: talk about Lancelore, and then talk about that defense, particularly 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: the secondary, and how they performed in the second half 233 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: of practice. Would you say I didn't hear what you said. 234 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: I was just I just basically say, once Chad got 235 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: in there on offense, you know that defense started picking up. Well, 236 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: it's the second team offensive line. I mean it's the 237 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: second team offense. I mean great offensive line, very below average. 238 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I guess that you would say, I mean none we 239 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, None of these offensive linemen. Really you think, oh, 240 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it. I mean, Looney's pretty good. He 241 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: actually got worked with the first team because Frederick was 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: being held out. So it's just a huge drop off, 243 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: of course it is. I mean, you can't draft all 244 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: these first round linemen and then all of a sudden, 245 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: so I think that the second round is good. But yeah, yeah, 246 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: the defense picked it up. Sorry, oh they didn't. Well, 247 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean I think I said on our on the 248 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: TV broadcast yesterday, like it's just it's fallen into place 249 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: for Lenore, like a game of you know, like the 250 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: way tetris lines up when you're good at Tetris, Like 251 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: it's all just fallen into place. Um, he made an 252 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: outstanding catch on a fade route in the back corner 253 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: of the end zone. He just keeps doing I mean, 254 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: he does all the little stuff right, but then he 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: usually makes an eyecatching play at least once per practice. Um, 256 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: it's early. I mean we haven't played a game, and 257 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: we know he had his struggles in the games last year. 258 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: You know, I want to see what it's like when 259 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: Noah Brown comes back and there's gonna be some competition 260 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: from other guys. That's the problem is it's so competitive 261 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: and there's so few spots. I feel really good about 262 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: the work that he's done, but he's I mean, he's 263 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: got to keep it up. He just bores me. I 264 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, really yeah, because he doesn't 265 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: you know what, because he doesn't do anything like one 266 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: thing like outstanding it to me, which which catches every 267 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: freaking thing they throw at him. It seems like I'm 268 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: with you, Nick on this one. It's like I see 269 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: him being a great player doing like preseason games, but 270 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: then regular season comes I'm just like, that's nothing against him. 271 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: That's nothing against him. It's probably more on me. I 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: just like, you know, and you see you want to 273 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: oh you run too four, two five, or he's sixty 274 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: three or he's Noah Brown and he's like really strong, 275 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: he's the best blocker. I don't see Lance Lenora as 276 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: the best or even the top one or two of 277 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: any of the of the skill sets other than show 278 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: up at work every single day in the off season 279 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and catch every pass. I mean he did do that, 280 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: which is why he's probably in this boat right now. 281 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's probably what Dak Prescott is looking for. 282 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: Like we roll our eyes at you know, like after practice, 283 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: like the guys lie on the ground and catch the 284 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: ball and you're like, all right, are you are you 285 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: do really working at this? Are you doing this for show? 286 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: And you know he's there every day during the off season, 287 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: like but you see it have results. Case in point, 288 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: like maybe one of my favorite plays a training camp 289 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: last week. He runs a dig route. He literally slipped 290 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: and fell fell on his butt, got up just enough 291 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: to pick his arms up. The ball was already coming 292 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: at him and he caught it from his belt butt base. Basically, 293 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: it was a fantastic I mean it was only an 294 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: eight yard game, but it's just that's that's the result 295 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: of working every single day of the offseason. And no, 296 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: you're I mean, he's not the biggest he doesn't make 297 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: the most highlight plays, but he can play every position 298 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: in the offense. And I haven't seen him drop a 299 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: ball since we got out here. I think, to me, 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, if Lance Lenore sitting there, like, 301 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: you know what, we can keep Lenore. I just have 302 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: this feeling, and maybe I'm wrong. They just have this 303 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: feeling that of all the guys that are going to 304 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: get cut on that Saturday of receivers, I just feel 305 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a lot of them better than him. 306 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: They won't know the offense. So that I'll say that Butler, 307 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: every every single year we fall for a guy who 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: we're like, there's no way he gets through waivers, there's 309 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: just no way, and then they cut him and he 310 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: gets through waivers. Not saying it's not possible, like he 311 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: could be a great practice squad addition, but to my point, 312 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: like when it comes time for that conversation, yeah I can, 313 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I can easily imagine a conversation where Dak Prescott is like, yeah, Okay, 314 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: that guy's more talented, Like, I trust this guy. He 315 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: can do everything thing we need him to do in 316 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: the offense, and I know where he's gonna be and 317 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna catch it when I throw it 318 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to him. That is the definition of Dak. Absolutely, that's it, 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: and that's I trust fourteen to be where I need 320 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: him to be. I didn't always trust all of the 321 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: other guys to be exactly where I need him to be, 322 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: not where the play needs to be, is where I 323 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: need him to be. I think I've said this before 324 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: already on this show, but I really think if Lanceor 325 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: makes this team, it's gonna tell us a lot about 326 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the sway that Dak has. I just think it means 327 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: that he's got some pull in that room, because that's 328 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: the main reason to keep him is because he works 329 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: well with that and he catches the ball. If the 330 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: offense is built around running the ball and using the 331 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: passing game as necessary, it is important to have receiving 332 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: threats that are able to get open to catch that 333 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: third and sixth ball and be reliably get open catch 334 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: it right. And so that's where a guy like Lancelor 335 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: makes a ton more sense than even a guy, say 336 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: like Dez Bryant, who is can make those spectacular plays, 337 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: but as we saw last year, may not be as consistently, 338 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: it may not sistantly catch that slant route and just 339 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: to get you the first nun, I'm not there yet. 340 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: With no no no no, no, no no no, I'm 341 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: not trying to say Lanceloor is better than him. I'm 342 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: saying the point is, if you think about the philosophy 343 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: and how the team is progressing at the wide receiver position, 344 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I think they've made the decision we prefer to have 345 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: those less flashy, less and I don't even want to 346 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: say less talented, but guys that may not be able 347 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to make some of those spectacular plays if they can 348 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: be just consistently where they're supposed to be and catch 349 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the ball in those in those those critical downs, like, 350 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: that's what I think they're looking. Let's go. Let's go 351 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: back to Rico really quick, and Amber's point about how 352 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: well he's looking. He's looking. He's doing a nice job 353 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: in the red zone. He plays the game like a 354 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: basketball player, especially in the red zone. He kind of 355 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: finds just like you would if you were posting up. 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, you use that big body, you look for 357 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the holes, you find it, and you you, you know, 358 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: get that your frame ready to make the catch. Can 359 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: they get the air to the red zone with him? 360 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Is the question? Can he be a tied end that 361 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: can help them in between the twenties at where you 362 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: know it's third and four at midfield? Can he make 363 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: those necessary blocks and plays like that down in the 364 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: red zone he could be a weapon? Is that worthy 365 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: enough to just have him on the roster just for 366 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: those type of things? You know, yes, he can do 367 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: well right there, but can he be in every down 368 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: type of tight end to justify his spot? Well, the 369 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: one thing I will say about that is right now, 370 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't think the area where you would say he's 371 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: deficient in blocking, there aren't a lot of other guys 372 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: here at the tight end position who do it well. 373 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Not here, so yeah. But so my point is when 374 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: you start comparing him, I think you're going to be 375 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: comparing these guys and saying, Okay, who's best at catching passes, 376 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: who's best in the red zone, who's best at blocking? 377 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fit favorably in a lot of 378 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: those categories. Blocking may not be it, but I don't 379 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: know that there are a lot of other guys who do. 380 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: What if we don't make him in every down tight end? Like, 381 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: what if would it be possible to just carve out 382 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: a meaningful enough role for Rico on special teams to 383 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: where he can be useful in that regard and then 384 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: he only comes in the game once you get to, 385 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: like the twenty five yard line. I'm all in on that. 386 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like anything Jason Garrett would ever entertain. 387 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: But unless, of course, you don't have a guy like 388 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: Jason Witten, you're having the peace feel it. Yeah, tell 389 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: tell me that if somebody's kicking a fifty four yard 390 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: field goal that he can't stand three steps behind the 391 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: nose tackle one two three jump, That is gonna be 392 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: a very tough That's gonna be a tough roadblock for 393 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: any kick. And he can jump. He's tall, he's wide, 394 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: and he can jump. He will block a couple of 395 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: kicks if they put him there. He will. I mean 396 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: that that that right, there is a we especially long kicks. 397 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: Whit it has to be a little more lovely. Yeah, absolutely, right, now, 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: it's easy for me to not put Rico on a 399 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: fifty three man projection right now. But if he plays 400 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: like he did in the preseason again, yeah, and especially 401 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: like based on you know, most you know, these Titans 402 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: haven't been that impressive for the most part, it's gonna 403 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: be hard to justify it. Even he might be the 404 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: worst blocker in the world, but if he once again 405 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: proves he can do that, it's hard to say, like, well, 406 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: these guys aren't good blockers either, but we're keeping them 407 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: over you well, I mean, it's just the truth. 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I made mention of the 462 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: fact that I hadn't really seen a throw yet during 463 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: this camp that just wowed me from Dak Prescott. Then 464 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: yesterday on Q he has several of them. I thought 465 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: yesterday there were a few throws he made here in 466 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: the end zone that to me were pinpoint accurate. I 467 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: know one particularly to Jeff Swayne. Swayin was covered really 468 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: well and he put the ball right where it needed 469 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: to be for Swain to make the catch and getting 470 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: the end zone, and I was I said immediately, Wow, 471 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that's the kind of throw that I wanted to see 472 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: that I hadn't necessarily seen a lot of. And it 473 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: may also go to kind of what you guys are saying, 474 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is a gamer when the lights come on, 475 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: which yesterday there were a lot more cameras, a lot 476 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: more people. Maybe that kind of sparked him a little bit. 477 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: But what do you guys think just overall, what do 478 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: you guys think of Dak's performance yesterday during the during 479 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: the practice and scrimmage. I thought it was a nice 480 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: little microcosm of what his campus looked like. Yeah, I 481 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: mean the throw to Swayin was great. H he had 482 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: he made some really nice place He had a you 483 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: know again, he had a throw on the run, where 484 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: when he does that he almost always looks good. He 485 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: telegraphed the ball to Cole Beasley that Anthony Brown returned 486 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: for a pick six. The he had his second pick 487 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: really was much less his fault, although you could argue 488 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: it could have been more accurate. It was tipped by 489 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and Jeff Heath in the clutch like he 490 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: always does. He was on the run on that one too, 491 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: which is a little bit like I noticed that he 492 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: was on the run. He was trying to loft it 493 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: down field and just didn't get it there. Yeah, So, 494 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, it was it was a 495 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: nice little microcosm. He had some really nice throws. He 496 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: had two interceptions. Uh, the offense looked good. The offense 497 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: stalled out a little bit at times. He talked to 498 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: the media afterwards and kind of said the same thing. 499 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, um, he's he's had some really good throws. 500 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: He's had some throws he'd like back. He's trying to 501 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: be more adventurous since it's a practice setting, which I encourage. Um, 502 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: And so it's it hasn't been all perfect. It certainly 503 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been terrible by any stretch of the imagination. It's 504 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: it's right in between. Would you think you always use 505 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: that word by any stretch of the imagination every show, 506 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: every show anyways. Um, you know what, my appreciation for 507 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: the game and the throwing the ball has absolutely changed 508 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: every since I picked up a football and try to 509 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: throw him myself, so that as easy as it looks, 510 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: it is not so just because I've been doing that 511 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of days and throwing the ball around yesterday, 512 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: everything I saw was like, oh my god, that is 513 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. And that ball that you were talking about 514 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: to Jeoff Swain, I was standing there and I saw 515 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: the ball just coming right at me, like right in 516 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: front of me, and I was just amazed, Like, had 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Jeoff not caught, that ball would have hit me right 518 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: in the face because I was like hypnotized by it 519 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: and how pretty it looked and how precise and how 520 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: well it was turning around. So anyways, just to say yesterday, 521 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: everything that I saw from Dak was pretty good. He 522 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: had a few mistakes, but overall good. We say all 523 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the time that Dak like throwing people open is something 524 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: he hasn't quite developed. He threw Swain open on that. Yeah, anyway, 525 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: But what makes me sorry, what makes me wonder though, 526 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: it's like at times, you know, he this has been 527 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: happening over when the old line is in there necessarily 528 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: and he's throwing passes, how long it takes him sometimes 529 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: to throw the make that throw? You know, like some 530 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: of this guy's getting open, It doesn't really they don't 531 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: get open that quickly. And it makes me wonder during 532 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: the game, in an actual game, if that's gonna become 533 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: an issue because you're not gonna have that much time 534 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: as you go and run around. You know a good point. 535 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: You're right about that, and I think that you have 536 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: to kind of figure out what drill that is. Sometimes 537 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: on those seven on sevens, when the linebacker sitting there, 538 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: there's no offensive line, they know it's past all the way, 539 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: they know he doesn't ever have to worry the linebacker 540 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: is about maybe a faked Zeke draw play or anything 541 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: like that. So I do think they have a little 542 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: bit of advantage on some of those plays. So I'm 543 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: okay with him holding it a little bit longer because 544 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: that's when you put all eleven out there, that that's 545 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: what you know. Things change. But you're right on these 546 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: one on one drills. These guys run like a triple 547 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: move down the field, cut back, cut, you know, slant here, 548 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: then go deep, and I'm like, yeah, this will officiven. 549 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: This offensive line is good, but not that good. Yeah, 550 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: you know. So you're right. But but as Dave's point 551 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: earlier about Dak, I mean, this is the time. You know, 552 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: practice is for that stuff. Practice is to force it 553 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: in there. You know, if you get a pick, okay, 554 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: you get a pick, your your practice rating is not 555 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna go down because there isn't and you know, hopefully 556 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: in a game, maybe I don't do that right, But 557 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: but if you forced the ball in to practice seven 558 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: times to Jeff Slam and he caught six of them, 559 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: that was what practices for. That helps you that this 560 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: guy's gonna go make a play. At some point, somebody 561 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals realized Larry Fitzgerald's gonna go and catch 562 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: the ball and I I can throw it to him 563 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: as I can't throw it to this number thirteen guy 564 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: over here. You know. So that's what practice is for. 565 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think it's a good point. 566 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: Dak actually had a really you know, I just I 567 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: remember this, Dak just had he had a nice quote, um, 568 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, talking to the media after practice that I 569 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: think I figured out last year some of the throws 570 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I can make and some of the throw as I 571 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: can't make in practice, and then obviously I learned some 572 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: lessons in the season. At this point, it's about going 573 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: out there and making the right throw in the right 574 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: situation every time. Sometimes that means checking it down. Sometimes 575 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: that means letting it rip, and I think that's absolutely right. 576 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: And this is a setting where you learn those types 577 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: of things. On top of I mean, hey, to his point, 578 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: it hurts way more when it happens in a game, 579 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: as we saw, especially in the second half. Um. Sorry, 580 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: but just sometimes you know, this whole thing is covered 581 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: with you know, we put the scrimmage, which isn't even 582 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: really a scrimmage. We put it live on the internet 583 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: and like everyone's you know, watching it and then getting 584 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: excited and I'm not saying that they shouldn't, But then 585 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: then you got people charting plays and what his rating 586 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: is and all that stuff, and and really it's still practice. 587 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: It's still practice, and so it's easy to say, yeah, 588 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: he threw a pick here or threw a touchdown here, 589 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: but you know this, still there's a reason why the 590 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: coaches call certain plays the way it is. I remember 591 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Parcels in the preseason. We used to be like, you know, 592 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: third and eight from the thirty five yard line, he'd 593 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: run a draw and like, well, you know why, because 594 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: he wants to see his kicker kick a fifty five 595 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: yard field goal. That's why, you know, you want to 596 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: see certain situations. So all right, so let's let's take 597 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: the conversation a little bit deeper on Dak. I've I've 598 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: just noticed over the last couple days, and this is again, 599 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: Twitter can never be the baseline because we know on 600 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Twitter everybody has an opinion and typically the most vocal 601 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: are not in always the representative of what most people think. 602 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: But there's been kind of this, I since kind of 603 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: this general thought that Dak isn't that that Dak isn't 604 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: going to be what the Cowboys want him to be 605 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: for his career. Take that as you may, but it 606 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: did bring up the question for me of do we 607 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: think that Dak at this point is developmentally where he 608 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: should be entering his third year. We know he had 609 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: the phenomenal first year. Last year wasn't what he would 610 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: have wanted it to be. There were some good things 611 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: and some bad things that we've seen throughout his career, 612 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: but it's only been two years of playing. Do you 613 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: think right now developmentally he's where he should be or 614 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: do you think he's below that or above that? Uh, 615 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Dak is absolutely where he's supposed to be or maybe 616 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: better than that. And to really to to take it 617 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: all into you have to put it all in context, 618 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: like the whole thing. He's not as well developed, like 619 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Wentz is the perfect person to put 620 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: him against, and fittingly so because he's the quarterback of 621 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: their biggest rival. But one of those guys was the 622 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: number two overall pick in the draft, and one was 623 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: one thirty five. He's a fourth round pick. Regardless of 624 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: how much he surprised everyone, he was still a fourth 625 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: round pick for a reason which his skills weren't what 626 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: the second round pick. The second pick was he was 627 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: not accurate. He was coming from a college system that 628 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: doesn't translate well to the pros. Uh, he he had deficiencies. 629 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Otherwise he would have been picked where Carson Wentz was picked. 630 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: That's the way that it's it's not. I mean, I 631 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: know there are crazy stories in the in the draft 632 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: every year, and I think Dak is he already has 633 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: but will continue to outplay his draft slot. But these 634 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: people know what they're doing. Dak would have been talked 635 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: about as a top ten prospect if he had that 636 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: type of skill set. So in two years you've seen 637 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: them come to light. You mean, I'm not trying to 638 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: sugarcoat it. He's got problems with downfield accuracy, that's a thing, 639 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: but it's the other things he does well, intangibles as 640 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: well as mechanics that lead to him to be successful, 641 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: particularly when he's put into an offense like this. I 642 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: think he's absolutely fine. Well, let's answer the question of 643 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: what you're really asking or the next one, and then 644 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 1: because because you're right, I mean surprised, we all are 645 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: surprised when he was drafted to say, oh, he was 646 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: gonna be Rookie of the Year. And he's gonna be 647 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, start all this, you know every game pretty much. 648 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: But now the questions different. You give him one hundred million, 649 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: you give him one hundred and fifty million, whatever it is. 650 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: Can you do that? Can you give him this money? 651 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Because we said it yesterday, We've said it for a while. 652 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: When Zeke's out there, man, they can be really good. 653 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: And he's really good when it's just him. I don't know. 654 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: And those great quarterbacks. And I know there's a lot 655 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: of good quarterbacks that get a lot of money, so 656 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to you know, I get that, But 657 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: the great ones, they're the ones to make it the 658 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: other guys better, not the other way around. But how 659 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: many of those guys were developmentally better than dak Is 660 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: entering their third season in the NFL. I think that's 661 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: the point I'm getting to, more than anything else is 662 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: is when you look at the at the at the 663 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: timeline of a quarterback from start to finish typically, and 664 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about the good ones, to talk about the 665 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: great ones. Right, is he on chart to be able 666 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys or do you think 667 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: he's below? This is game three of a series they 668 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: won Game one easily they got. They lost a close 669 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: one in Game two. Now this is Game three. This 670 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: is like an NBA series right now. I know I 671 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: keep making basketball references, but I'm just saying the jury's out. 672 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: The jury's out because last year the defensive coordinators got 673 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: the upper hand on him. Now he'll see if he 674 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: can come back. So yeah, his development was really good 675 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: and then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's figure let's 676 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: figure that out. And it all started with Minnesota if 677 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: you really think about it, his rookie years, Zimmer and 678 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: those guys. That's when it all started to change. It 679 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: said beat me over the top, which they did that game. 680 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Des got a big play in there, yep. But I 681 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: think it was like, do it again, and do it again, 682 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna if that's all we're gonna give you, 683 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: and you can do it all game long. Yeah there. 684 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there is precedent for quarterbacks getting that type 685 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: of money at this stage in their career. Aaron Rodgers 686 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: got a nice contract extension before he had a lot 687 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: of experience starting, just because he spent so much time 688 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: on the bench. He was also a first round pick, uh, 689 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: and that's I think Honestly, that's where this schism in 690 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: the opinion of Dak Prescott starts, is that he took 691 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: the job of a polished veteran quarterback who maybe he's 692 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: not as good as Aaron Rodgers, but he had a 693 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: comparable game. He's that type of quarterback who can shoulder 694 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: the load and make a team relevant regardless of how 695 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: much talent is around him. News flash, he's not that quarterback. 696 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: He might be one day, he's not. And that's again 697 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: there are basically, I think there are people who understand 698 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: that and people who basically feel you took Tony's job. 699 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: You need to be Tony right now and now you're 700 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Cowboys. I don't have time for 701 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: you to develop. And I don't buy that because again, 702 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, I always go back to Russell Wilson. I 703 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to turn into Russell Wilson 704 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: because I probably would have voted for him to win 705 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: MVP last year. I don't know if Dak will ever 706 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: be that, but the trajectory is similar. Russell Wilson did 707 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: not do everything himself for the first two plus years 708 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: of his career. Honestly, when they won their Super Bowl. 709 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: He was. He was good, but he was not the 710 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: thing that he was not the straw that stirred that 711 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: drink you talk about maybe the best quarterback in the 712 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: history of the NFL, Tom Brady, it was the same thing. 713 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Like when they were winning early on, that was all 714 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: about the fact that they could run the ball and 715 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: they had a great defense. Like that was how they played. 716 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: And he didn't have to make a lot of great 717 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: throws because they had those other two things and they 718 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: were okay with punning, Like that's okay, But like Russell Wilson, 719 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: like he's not good enough right now to carry that team, 720 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, to where they want to go. Well, it 721 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: maybe not. It's similar to Tony I mean, he's good 722 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: enough with the talent they have he made makes them competitive. Yeah, 723 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: he does make him competitive. He needs some help, just 724 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: like he needs an outstanding defense or a good running 725 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: game or both and all that stuff. And that's most 726 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are the same way. There's only really a couple 727 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: that you can just kind of give them whatever and 728 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, James Jones, like oh he's great, 729 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: and those are your all time great quarterbacks in the 730 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: history of the league, and The reality is you can't 731 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: afford to be that picky because guess what, you don't 732 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: want to go back to the days when you got 733 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Quincy Carter and Chad Hudginson, when you got a quarterback. 734 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: It was the reason why I thought Washington was so 735 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: the whole situation in Washington is weird. If you have 736 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback that, even though he's not great. Kirk Cousins 737 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: wasn't great. But when you find a quarterback that's pretty good, 738 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you just have to develop them and keep working 739 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: with them because you don't want to go back to 740 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: not having a quarterback at all, and then you're in 741 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: that bottom part of the league that has no shot 742 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: at winning at all, which and the other thing I 743 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: think is worth talking about it is, Yeah, a decision's 744 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: coming on what to do with Dak in terms of money. 745 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that the Cowboys are going to have 746 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: to set the quarterback market to keep him, right, I mean, 747 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: you know that's again too many things are black and white. 748 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: There's gray area there. If Dak has a solid season 749 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: but they don't win the Super Bowl, you could sign 750 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: him to a new deal that will put him in 751 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: a respectable territory fairly compensate him the same thing. The 752 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks did not set the market with Russell Wilson after 753 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: they won a Super Bowl. They paid him fairly for 754 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: a third round pick who had led them to a championship. 755 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: You can pay Dak without completely ruining your cap, like 756 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: you can do both of those things. This is something 757 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: that helps Dak. And I know I've thrown out this 758 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: that before. The top five quarterbacks in the NFL in 759 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: terms of salary right now, only one of them has 760 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: won a playoff game. So of the four of the five, 761 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: and three of them actually have a losing record, So 762 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: you can, I mean, guys can make money. And that 763 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: goes back to what I was saying about when you 764 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: get one is pretty good. Sometimes you find you gotta 765 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: keep it and you gotta pay market rate to keep 766 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: him because you can't go back to not having. Yeah, 767 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: my whole car. Derek Carr, Garoppoloe and those guys that 768 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: I think you're asking this question a little too early. 769 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: It's too soon to know. We know that the Cowboys 770 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: are one hundred percent invested on Dak Prescott and they've 771 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: done anything everything they can do to cater to him 772 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: and his necessities. Now, we know that Dak, given the 773 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: time that he's been here, he's not necessarily a great 774 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: practice guy. He hasn't been, and every time he goes 775 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: into a game is absolutely different than what we see 776 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: at practice this year, here, at training camp, everything I've seen, 777 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: if he's a lot better than that then what we've 778 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: seen here so far during a game day, I think 779 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be really good this year based on what 780 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I've seen thus far. And I don't know if we 781 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: just need to wait until a real game to see 782 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: and really find out, because we can't judge by practice. 783 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: We know that that doesn't give you the right result. 784 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: My hope for Dak Prescott is that he can continue 785 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: to be what he's been and better, which is to say, 786 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback who can play mistake free, be a good leader, 787 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: occasionally make a highlight worthy play, and just generally lead 788 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: the offense that is centered around the line and Zeke. 789 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I feel like people view it as a knock that 790 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: he's not the type of quarterback that can carry a 791 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: whole team right now. I don't view it that way. 792 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: I think he plays a crucial role in the way 793 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: the team is constructed. If he can keep doing that, 794 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: they will win games and compete for playoff spots, and hopefully, 795 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: as he continues to progress, he can become that type 796 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: of quarterback in the next two to four years. And 797 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: if that involves paying him again, I don't think you 798 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: have to cripple your team to do that. You Know, 799 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: something that I love is the fact, okay, yes, he 800 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: took Romo's job basically, and the fact that Jason went 801 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: had so much respect for Dak Prescot. I mean, we 802 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: know how close Jason and Romo. The fact that this 803 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: young guy came in was able to gain all that 804 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: respect from Jason Witten get along and be all on 805 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: the same track. I mean that to me is a 806 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: great endorsement just by Jason Witten. So I'm one hundred 807 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: percent confident that Dak is gonna shine and he's gonna 808 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: stay here for a while. All Right, we're gonna take 809 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: our final break. We come back. Let's get some questions. 810 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: The number is nine seven two four nine seven forty 811 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: four hundred. 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All right, let's let's jump into some calls 876 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: before we do that, though, I wanted to make mention 877 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: we I had the poll and I put the poll 878 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: on on the on the app um asking the question, 879 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: do you think Daki is where he should be developmentally 880 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: entering year three? Want to hear this? And here's the 881 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: interesting thing. It's been all over the map. First of all, 882 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: it's it was, it's at one point, it was really high, 883 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: at one point is really low. But where it is 884 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: right now, ninety four percent of the people say yes, 885 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: only six percent saying no. So I think, at least 886 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: for where the poll is right now, I think the 887 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: majority of the vast majority believe he's on track with 888 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: where he should be developmentally. Is this targeted the Mississippi 889 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: only probably not? The cowboy fans think that he is 890 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: as of now. Now this thing kind of bounces around 891 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: four percent of Cowboys fans listening to this, which is yes, 892 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean sorry, the rest of them, 893 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation, but you're smarter than them if you listen 894 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: to this on a regular basis, you just are Wait, 895 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: what people who listen to our shows are more informed 896 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: and smarter than Joe and fower Mount got it. That's 897 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: exactly right. But anyway, I thought that was an interesting thing. 898 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: I was expecting maybe the opposite, just seeing kind of 899 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: comments I've seen on Twitter. But again, as I prefaced 900 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: this conversation, sometimes what you see on Twitter is just 901 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: a vocal minority that really is is not the representative. 902 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: It's like it's like with Romo, you know, after his 903 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: second or third year, you're not an undrafted quarterback from 904 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: from Eastern Illinois anymore. You are the France guys quarterback. 905 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the where it is with Dak 906 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: and so you know, no longer is he just that 907 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: guy that's like, oh wow, fourth round pick, he's surprised it. 908 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: Now it's you know, now you've gotten wide receivers cut, 909 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: and you've got other players have made decisions based off 910 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: of you being here. So now it's time you're you're 911 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: the guy. And I think Amber said it earlier, it's 912 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, you are the quarterback. They're giving everything for 913 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: you to be successful, so you know you're no longer 914 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: the young guy. I sorry, this is dumb, but I 915 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: don't know what Dak and Tony's relationship is like now, 916 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't even begin to guess, like the last 917 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: time they communicated, But I like to think, like I 918 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe Dak would send Romo at text just 919 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: like dude, I get it it. Romo's like, yeah, it's 920 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: it's cool. Oh this camp he's he's and it's it's 921 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: it's the off the field stuff. It's the whole thing. 922 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: When you are the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, guess what, Yeah, 923 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of stuff coming your way. 924 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: He's better be ready to deal with it. He's making 925 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money to play football. But I mean, 926 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: the guy, the guy can't really win right now on 927 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: a variety of fronts. So he was, well, he was 928 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: answering a question yesterday. He said, oh, yeah, this young 929 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: guys coming in, isn't that weird? So yeah, him calling 930 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: this other guy's young guys, I'm like, what, he's ancient 931 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: by NFL. Right right, we'll get ready for his retirement party. 932 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some questions we gotta call. 933 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: If you guys want to call us. You can call 934 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: us at nine seven two four nine seven nine seven 935 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: two four nine seven forty four hundred. We gotta call 936 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: from Hakeem in Virginia. HACKEM what up? It was up? Guys. 937 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, I've raised the Virginia but Dave, 938 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm born and raising. Let's go shout out the But um, 939 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask a question. I'm you guys, you 940 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: know Nick and Derek, you guys can probably speak to 941 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: this because you guys have been there in a long time. 942 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: You gotta see what goes on behind the scenes. But 943 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, on the outside world, you know, fans and 944 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: media and all these talk shows and all. You mean, 945 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of media people they say that you 946 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: know Jerry and you know he likes to hire head 947 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: coaches that he can you know that doesn't have like, um, 948 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: that's not like you know, raw Rod guys or anything 949 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: like that, or just like you know, he likes to 950 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: overpower not not like over like overstep his head coaches, 951 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, authorities that like that's the narratives that you 952 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: know people outside of the Cowboys organization. So I'll like 953 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: to get you guys to take you know, who's behind 954 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: the scenes to see you know, you gotta see more 955 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: than what we see. And is that a fair you know, 956 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: narrative to go by or you know, is it not? 957 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: And if if that's the case, do you think a 958 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: guy like Chris Rashard, you know, like you said the 959 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: other day, Nick, you think a guy like Chris Rashard 960 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: would be a perfect fit if you know, Jason Garrett 961 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: doesn't get it done or anything like that. So that's 962 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: all I had. And uh, you know, y'all keep up 963 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: to go work. There's one thing that you have to 964 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: realize that. I mean, Jerry, uh you know, he's his 965 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: stamp is on this team. Of course he owns it. 966 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: He's a general manager, he's the president. Um. And but 967 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: you got to realize that the head coach of this organization. 968 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: It's not for everyone. It's not like every other place. 969 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: If you don't understand that, you don't buy into it, 970 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: then it's not going to be for you. That's as 971 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,959 Speaker 1: simple as simple as that, I mean. And and here's 972 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: a guy that played for the Cowboys. He understands and 973 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: he was he played for the Cowboys when they were 974 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls. So he gets where where where this franchise. 975 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: Is he gets that that that football is not the 976 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: only part of this whole thing. That there's there's money involved, 977 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: that there's sponsorships, there's a lot going on. If you 978 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: if you want to buck the system, then this isn't 979 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: for you. And so, But but to answer your question, 980 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm yes, I think Garret. You look around, Garrett's stamp 981 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: is on this team as well. I mean a lot 982 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: of the things that that are happening. But just remember 983 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: that if so, if a new coach comes in, and 984 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get a chance to see how things work, 985 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: but you may not get to practice on that practice 986 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,439 Speaker 1: field on Tuesday morning like you want to because there's 987 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: something else going on. That's just that's just reality that happens. 988 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: You better be used to it. I will, And I 989 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: absolutely think that works in Jason Garrett's favor. He gets 990 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, at just across all platforms, the Dallas Cowboys 991 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: are a show and they just are. And I mean, 992 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: if you're a fan, I hope you understand that because 993 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: you're the benefactors of that some degree, because you get 994 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 1: this right, you get these kinds of programming that we 995 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: were able to do. I think it is it absolutely 996 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: works in Jason Garrett's favor that he understands that. But 997 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Like, it's not like Jerry Jones has a 998 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: just set type of coach that he's willing to hire. 999 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: Look across the hires he's made, like he's covered the 1000 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: whole spectrum. Like I would barely even remember that Jimmy 1001 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: Johnson Cowboys, but I know how fiery he was Bill 1002 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels, Are you kidding me? Yeah? And then you 1003 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: got a guy like Wade Phillips, who's like the chilliest 1004 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: dude ever, and Garrett, who's somewhere in between like Jerry Jones. 1005 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I mean, the Dallas 1006 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys are a show and always will be. But Jerry 1007 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: Jones wants to win. He's gonna hire whoever he thinks 1008 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: is going to help him do that. No other no 1009 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: other franchise can continue to rise in their net worth 1010 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: like this and not be successful in the postseason. Yeah, 1011 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: it's just this is the way that it is. Let 1012 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: me give you guys a shameless plug on this. There's 1013 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: a documentary. We're running out our first of four Deep 1014 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: Blue documentaries this week. We'll have one every week for 1015 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: the next four weeks and the one that's gonna run 1016 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: this Wednesday. It's called Parcels Last Ride and it talks 1017 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: about Parcels coming to the Cowboys. Really great documentary. Kent Garrison, 1018 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: who produces this show, was the editor for that. Rob 1019 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: Phillips wrote the documentary, but really really good. And the 1020 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: reason why I bring it up is because I think 1021 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: when you go and you listen to Parcels Nick, you've 1022 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to interview Parcels about his time here. 1023 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: The one thing you always hear from from Parcels was 1024 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: I he always says I loved working for Jerry Jones. 1025 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: And so when people have that narrative of well, a 1026 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 1: strong head coach would never want to work for Jerry Jones, 1027 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,479 Speaker 1: you find me a head coach that's stronger than build 1028 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: Parcelves and for him to say, hey, I loved working 1029 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: with Jerry Jones, I think that narrative is I think 1030 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: it's a little bit incorrect. I think Jerry, like you said, 1031 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: he's had a lot of different kinds of coaches, but 1032 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: I don't I think Jerry can work with different kinds 1033 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: of people. And the other thing I'll point out real 1034 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: quick is I can only speak from my personal experience. 1035 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,959 Speaker 1: I work a lot with their family in my job. 1036 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about it is and 1037 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: every person that I have that's a peer of mind 1038 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: that runs a particular part of the business, we all 1039 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: say the same thing. Which is the great part about 1040 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: working for the Jones family is they allow you to 1041 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: do your job like. They're not the kind that are 1042 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: going to be like, you're supposed to be the expert, 1043 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: but no, don't do what you're saying, do what I 1044 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: tell you to do. They're always like, how do what 1045 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: do you think about this? I'm gonna defer there. If 1046 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,959 Speaker 1: they have opinions, they definitely make it known, and they're 1047 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: sometimes they're like, hey, I really think we ought to 1048 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: go this way. But it's not like they say, hey, 1049 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just jump over your O. You know this. 1050 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: You're supposed to be the expert. You go do it 1051 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: the way you want it. And I have no reason 1052 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: to believe that they would do something different than that. 1053 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: With the football coach, yeah, well and obvious, I mean 1054 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't showcase everything that happens. I'm sure there are 1055 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: moments where Jerry Jones lets his voice be heard, but 1056 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: go watch all or nothing. Those coaches, you know, the 1057 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: Monday recap meetings were so fascinating to me because Jerry's 1058 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: like almost meek in those means. He's like, okay, coach, 1059 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: you got you got the floor? Like what are you? 1060 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: You know, like he's just he defers to him in 1061 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: front of this in front of his coaches, which that 1062 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: is not the famous image of Jerry Jones. Like you, 1063 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean to listen to the narrative and you think 1064 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: he's up there diagramming plays and like telling Jason who's 1065 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna get how many snaps in the game. I don't 1066 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: think it's like that at all. All right, let's take 1067 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: another call. We had a call this time from hold 1068 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: on just a second, can't who we got? Yeah, stan Um. 1069 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: I got two quick questions for you guys. One is, 1070 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: when I checked out this guy, Antoine Woods, I thought 1071 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: he was going to be an easy cut and then 1072 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: we see the fight. And then I started noticing from YouTube, 1073 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: you know, some of the people showing you know, what's 1074 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: going on at camp. I noticed that he gets a 1075 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: real good push up the field, and I was going 1076 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: to see, you know what you guys take was on 1077 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: that as well as m Jordan Lewis. Uh. I need 1078 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: to know some more information what's going on with this 1079 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis AB battle because I keep seeing AB on 1080 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: the field. I don't see Jordan Lewis on the field 1081 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: as much. So I sit back and listen to what 1082 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: you guys saying your thoughts and thanks for having me, 1083 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: all right, thanks for the calling. Well, I mean, if 1084 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: if you're gonna hit Travis Frederick in the face, then 1085 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: then basically what you're saying is is that you're you're 1086 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: willing to fight everybody. I mean that he's he's the 1087 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: anchor of that offensive line, and and you know, he 1088 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: basically said, if you want to fight, let's fight. So 1089 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: he hit him in the face. I mean, that's but 1090 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: but there's more two it than that. He's not just 1091 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: he's not just doing that, you know, um, he's actually 1092 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: he's he's he's pushing Travis Frederick back. He's winning battles 1093 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: against an all pro like that. And I don't think 1094 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna see any regression out of out of Frederick. 1095 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: I think this guy he's got some strength. He's a 1096 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: big guy, and that's what they need on that offensive line. 1097 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: They need. They need a guy that can get up 1098 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: the field, but they certainly need someone that's big and 1099 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: so defensive line he needs and we need a one 1100 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: technique guy that that can also stop the run in there. 1101 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see, I mean he's bounced. He has been 1102 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: cut two or three times. I mean, I will say this, 1103 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: Uh sorry Nick, but good Um. Just like wide receiver. 1104 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: Every year there's a d tackle that I mean Lewis, 1105 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: Neil last year, Shaneil Jenkins, Rodney Coe was a guy 1106 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of people had eyes on. There's always 1107 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: and you know, you see the you see the one 1108 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: on one pass Roustrial, so you get to see these 1109 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: guys win a lot. Just by nature of it. He's 1110 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: looked good. I'm not ready to put him on the team, 1111 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: but i will say if there's a spot where I 1112 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,479 Speaker 1: mean it's it's got to be detactless. There's a spot 1113 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 1: that's thin um Jordan Lewis and a B is interesting 1114 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: to me because that that much like Dak That is 1115 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: another Twitter controversy that you know, I mean, the third 1116 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: round pick who played well last year can't get in 1117 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: the starting lineup over ab Uh. I don't think ab 1118 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: has been terrible, but he's certainly lost his fair share 1119 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 1: of battles out here. Okay, with a B as a 1120 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: nickname here, I mean a B is Antonio Brown, but 1121 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean Anthony is just such a It's it's a mouthful, Tom. 1122 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 1: We've been here too long. It's a mouthful ab still 1123 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: throwing a jersey in Parsil's face. To me, it's still 1124 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: Antonio Bryant. But yeah, Anthony Brown. Um, anyway, I get it. 1125 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: He's a third round pick, and you know, we know 1126 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: Chris Froshard likes his tall cornerbacks, and then there's a 1127 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: theory that maybe that's why he can't get in the lineup. 1128 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Jordan has looked good. I 1129 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: would like to see him with the ones. Fortunately for us, 1130 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a shot because Cheeto's not practicing right now. 1131 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: Brown has been on the left side since he got hurt, 1132 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 1: and Jordan's been the first team's nickel, so maybe he 1133 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: can take advantage of this opportunity. That's gonna be interesting, 1134 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: though at the end of the day, I have a 1135 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: hard time losing sleep about it, because you can never 1136 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: have too many corners, and injuries play a role and 1137 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: for as mad as people want to get about it 1138 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: in training camp, if Brown is bad, when the games 1139 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: start mattering, he will get replaced and not on that way. 1140 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: This works. The one thing that we've seen about this defense, 1141 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it changes with Chris Rashard here, 1142 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: but it seems like in past years they'll rotate those 1143 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: corners around a little bit. Nope, they'll get those guys 1144 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: on the field. So I don't think it's a situation 1145 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: where because Jordan's not a part of the starting three, 1146 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: he won't be on the field. I think he's gonna 1147 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: get some opportunities to play. And that's a great thing 1148 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: to have. You got four really solid corners, keep giving, 1149 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: and you're playing against these seems to have all these 1150 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: really great wide receivers. You're gonna need that. So I 1151 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: actually think that's a great thing. I don't look at 1152 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: that as a bad thing. On August six, true, every 1153 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: freaking I just I'm not ready to lose sleep about 1154 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 1: position battles on August six. How it shakes out, All right, guys, 1155 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. These 1156 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: guys will be back tomorrow. Amber will be hosting, you 1157 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: guys will get a chance to hear about all the 1158 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff that's happening out here heading into the first preseason 1159 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: game this Thursday against the San Francisco forty nine Ers. 1160 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: Till then for Nicki, even Dave Helmet, amber Garcia. I'm 1161 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: Derek Eagles and this has been the Break live on 1162 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production 1163 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.