1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Mmm, so we're back. I'm again Robert Evans, and this 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: is Behind the Bastards, the show where we tell you 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: everything you don't know about the very worst people in 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: all of history. My guest today is Blake Wexler, and 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: he did an album called Stuffed Boy and is a 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: stand up comedian and a variety of other things. Yeah, 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: so this is this is part two of a of 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: a two part episode on Rodrigudutarte. If you haven't cut 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: part one, probably listened to that, but there will be labeled. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: So I assume if you're listening to this as part two, 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: you've made a choice one way or the other, and 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're diving into it now. I'm just 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: getting into it. November of two thousand and sixteen was 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: a surprising time for a lot of people around the world. Uh. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: It came at the end of a surprising election, uh 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: for those of us in the United States. But I 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: think we in the US allow an apology to the 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: people of the Philippines because I don't think we had 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the craziest election of two thousand sixteen. Um, you remember, 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: like how a couple of months before, uh, you know, 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: the the election came down that access Hollywood tape leaked 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: and we got to hear a presidential candidate make laughing 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: references to sexual assault. Remember that, how crazy that's saying. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: There's no way that guy won, right, There's there's no 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: way another presidential candidate topp that in the same year. 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Only that exact thing happened because one month before the 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: May two thousand sixteen Philippine presidential election, the clinical analysis 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: that I read in the first part of this episode 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: that declared Rodrigo du Terte and aggressive narcissist was leaked 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: to a Philippine national television news station. Suddenly, every voter 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: in the country knew that a mental health expert had 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: declared a major presidential candidate to lack quote any capacity 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: for remorse or guilt. And yet sixteen million people still 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: voted for Rodrigo du Terte, more than enough to hand 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: him the election. Part of why this happened has to 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: do with the army of trolls candidate d Tete wielded 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: to a great effect during the race. See du Terte 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: has an active cyber army today, but according to New Republic, 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: he's started using it from the beginning of his national ambitions. 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Quote November of two fifteen, when he decided to run 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: for president, he enlisted a marketing consultant named Nick Gabonada 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: to assemble a social media army with a budget of 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: just over two hundred thousand dollars. Gabunada used the money 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: to pay hundreds of prominent online voices to flood social 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: media with pro dutarte comments, popularized hashtags, and attack critics. 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: So what we had going on in our election, some 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: of it directed from Russia, some of it just completely organic. 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: He was harnessing himself to use and like it's it's 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: as if Trump had actually been like getting on eight 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: chan and four chan and like trying to get people 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: to make memes and stuff like do tete was actually 52 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: organizing a troll army. I assume he delegated a lot 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: of that to people to the internet because he's like seventy. 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: But still this was knowledge at that age, and this 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: was a major part of his strategy because he very 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: famously spent way less money on his campaign than any 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of his competitors because he knew where to focus it. 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: He really well, I mean, you're gonna pay some to 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: murderers that was already going up, but no onlike trolls 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: online that was his thing, rather than like traditional advertising 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: and whatever like. He realized that's not going to convince anybody, 62 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: but a bunch of arguments on Facebook have a better 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: shot at actually changing some minds. So the article of 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: that New Republic, Sean Williams knows very well what it's 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: like when when of dottertes mobs goes after a critic. 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: He earned their attention after reporting on the bloodshed behind 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: the new president's now national anti drug campaign. There's another quote. 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: Her name was Madeline. She was young and attractive, with 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: long hair and deep brown eyes. When I posted about 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: de tertes war on drugs, Madeline responded with derision. Maybe 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: you are anti Duterte troll all caps, she tweeted, a 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: foreigner who knows nothing all caps about my country. She 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: seemed to devote her waking hours to spreading her love 74 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: of Deuterte and assailing anyone who questioned him, posting dozens 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: of times a day my president and I am proud 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: of him. One tweet reads get lost critics. So it's 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: very familiar sounding. It's canny. Yeah, it's really it's really uncanny, 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and it seems silly. It is it is very silly, 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: but the sheer flow of information did its job. Hundreds 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: of thousands of paid and unpaid people successfully dominated much 81 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: of the Philippines national digital discourse. Rodrigo de Terte owes 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: a lot to our dear friend Facebook because in March fifteen, 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg announced that his company was partnering with smart 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: Communications to release a free app called internet dot Org. 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: This app provides free mobile Internet access to anyone with 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a smartphone, but it doesn't give users access to the 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: whole Internet, just twenty four websites, including Wikipedia, ACU, Weather, 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: and of course Facebook. Have you spotted the downside of 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: this plan yet? So? The median age in the Philippines 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: is twenty three as compared to like thirty seven point 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: eight something years here in the United States. It's a 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: very young country. Half of the nation's hundred plus million 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: citizens are active social media users. At least one study 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: suggests that Filipino people may lead the world in terms 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: of time spent on social media an average of four 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: hours and seventeen minutes per day, a half hour longer 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: than the next highest at Blake Wexler. By the way, 98 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: at the Philippines, at you're gonna get your tar tape 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: mob on you, I hope. So you need the followers 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: as followers man, the pr this guy sounds like a genius. 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: Well so, I mean if this is like the perfect storm, 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: because like at least when we started dealing with all this, 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: most people have access to the Internet and the whole internet. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: What happened in the Philippines is that Facebook gave millions 105 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: of people free mobile internet, but also in doing that, 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: they created a separate walled Internet that millions of poor 107 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: people were on, and the only reliable source sort of 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: was Wikipedia, and the vast, vast majority of news came 109 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: through social media. So you would see people posting about 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: news on Facebook, but you wouldn't be able to click 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: on a link to read about it, to like com 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: or deny it. All you had was the misinformation spreading 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: through social media because that the only internet Facebook has 114 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: any vested interest in giving you for free, right, So 115 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: they created a separate internet for poor people where disinformation 116 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: was even easier to spread. And Facebook did this. They 117 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: did this presuming to be nice, like that was the 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: how they presented. I mean, obviously they just wanted the 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: data on these people, but they didn't think about the 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: fact that any repercussion whatsoever other than money, and do 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: Tarte was like, oh, some millions of people now have 122 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: access to Facebook, but nothing else. Well, let's hire people 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: to spread propaganda on Facebook. It seems really worth the 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: money and it totally was. When these people would see 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: or participate in fights on Twitter or Facebook about mayor 126 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: Do Tartes murderous policies, it would just look like one 127 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: horde of angry people screaming at a smaller horde of 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: angry people. There would be almost no way for people 129 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: looking at this to research any of the claims being made. 130 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: You might just side with whatever group seemed the most 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: confident and prominent. Needless to say, fake news spread through 132 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the Philippines like wildfire. The book Fire and Fury in 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: the Philippines gives a rundown of how adept to Tartes 134 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: campaign was at using this to their advantage. One example 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: of the government's use of fake news was a viral 136 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: post by Juttes campaign spokesman Peter to Lavinia, which defended 137 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the war on drugs. Lavinians cited a report about a 138 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: nine year old girl who was raped and murdered. He lambastad, 139 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: human rightists, bishops and prostitutes for their failure to condemn 140 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: what he called this brutal act. They, he said, we're 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: derailing the government's war against drugs and crime and Trumpian style. 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: He went on, Our righteous battles are fierce and relentless 143 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: because we faced the devil himself. We cannot be softer, 144 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: let our guards down, less we ourselves be devoured and defeated. 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Below this, he posted a graphic and distressing photograph purporting 146 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: to show the dead child and her weeping mother. As 147 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: the online news website Rappler would later point out in 148 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: a series of articles which showed how the government was 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: weaponized in the Internet, the photo was taken in Brazil, 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: not the Philippines, so fake news big part of this election. 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Trolls were used to burnish the mayor's record and devout 152 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: It was critical to his presidential campaign that he'd be 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: seen as having cleaned up the city. One piece of 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: evidence used to support this was a two thousand fifteen 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 1: crowdsourced survey that had ranked Devour City is the ninth 156 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: safest city in the world. Because you want to go 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: too much higher than you know what I mean? It's 158 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: way bigger cities out there who have legitimate people voting 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: on them, as opposed to this in which it was 160 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: just but still like, you have a bunch of people vote, 161 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, in your online mob vote for devour City 162 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: is the safest city in the world, and you get 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: up to number nine. That's good enough to get the election, 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and it cracks the top ten, cracks the top ten. 165 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: That's not bad. So do Tear Taste trolls earned their 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: money on a sliding scale based on how active they were, 167 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: with salaries reaching up to two thousand a month, which 168 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: you'll remember from the first episode, more or less the 169 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: same retainer you get for being one of the leaders 170 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: of the Devout Death Squad. Uh. These trolls are augmented 171 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: by true believers and of course bots. Some research suggests 172 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: that of all Twitter accounts that mentioned Rodrigo do Tearte 173 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: are bots. Here's another quote from Free Republic. Elisair Carlos, 174 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: a human rights advocate, was forced to change his Facebook 175 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: profile after he received repeated threats of islands in a 176 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: country where anti government activists have been killed during the 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Tear Taste drug war. Carlos takes such threats seriously, sometimes 178 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: you go home, you're alone and you need to buy 179 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: something from the store. He says, then the fear kicks in, 180 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: which is again, these are not just petty criminals and 181 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: stuff who have been killed a devout. There have also 182 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: been journalists killed. There have been political opponents of his killed, 183 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: and his president He's continued to do this sort of 184 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: thing to like go after people who speak out against 185 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: him because now there's just this precedent that people die 186 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: in the streets a lot. People are gunning down in 187 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: the streets a lot, and it's just these vigilantes, Like, 188 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens in streets. People die in streets. Like, yeah, 189 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: cars are there, foot traffic is there, but death is 190 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: the primary death inhabitor. Of course. Yeah, so do tear 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Te acknowledged hiring social media commentars for his campaign, but 192 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: he denies running a digital army, just like he denies 193 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: running a death squad. Sometimes sometimes he admits running a 194 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: death squad. He denies it until he doesn't. Yeah, he 195 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: was against the death squad before he started the death squad. 196 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: Despite running by far the cheapest presidential campaign of any 197 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: major candidate, Rodrigo dou Tarte one nearly of the vote. 198 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: He was elected in May of two thousand sixteen, and 199 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: his spokesman issued dou Tar Taste thanks to fourteen million 200 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: social media volunteers. Once he was president, several bloggers who 201 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: spread pro do Tarte fake news were given press credentials 202 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: in July of two thousand seventeen, and Oxford University study 203 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: revealed that roughly five hundred paide rolls were likely involved 204 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: in do tarrtase online army. Oxford estimated that it would 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: have cost him around two hundred grand to do so. 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: This is a pretty good value for the money. When 207 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: do Tarte was told about this study, the now president replied, 208 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: Oxford University, that's the school for the dumb perfect and 209 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: you know what fun their dictionary is, Amryan Webster guy, 210 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the school for the school for the dumb. I've been 211 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: saying that for years. On June two sixteen, right after 212 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: his inauguration, Do Tarte visited the slum of Tondo and Manila. 213 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: He told a crowd quote, if you know of any addicts, 214 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: go ahead and killed them yourself, as getting their parents 215 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: to do it would be too painful. He's a humanitarian. 216 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's nice. That's nice. Just go ahead kill 217 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: a drug addict so his mom doesn't have to. Yeah, 218 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: that's because before the mom's had to kill their own 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and that was a dark era. Right. We're more humanists 220 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: now we kill drug addicts for their mothers. Right, that's nice. Uh. 221 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: In August of two sixteen, President du Terte announced his 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: new NARCO list of more than a hundred and fifties citizens, 223 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: many of them local government officials, judges, or police. They 224 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: were all stripped of any police escort. Any who were 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: serving as officers were relieved of duty. By this point, 226 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: just a few months into his presidency, eight hundred and 227 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: fifty two people had already been killed in the now 228 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: national drug war. When questioned by reporters about his list, 229 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: the president explained that if suspects showed the slightest violence 230 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: and resistance, I will tell the police shoot them. By 231 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: early two thousand seventeen, the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency revealed 232 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: that the NARCO list had been expanded to more than 233 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: six thousand suspects. This is somewhat at odds with the 234 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: reporting of The New York Times, who suggests the list 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: may have over a million names by now. Quote said 236 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: do terte in October, the human rights people will commit 237 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: suicide if I finish these all, which again, there's never 238 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: any hiding this. He's he's never not pretending to be 239 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible monster. Jesus. Yeah uh, here's the New 240 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: York Times. The list was a distilled essence of do 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: ter taste appeal, a raw and brutal effort at law 242 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: and order, whatever the cost. As of October, the president 243 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed an eighty six percent approval rating nationwide. His popularity 244 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: was greatest among the poorest Filipinos surveyed. Family members of 245 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: the drug Wars casualties, on several occasions told me they 246 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: supported Dottertase violence, even as they insisted their sons and 247 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: daughters were targeted and accurately, Which is if you get 248 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: people to believe that, like, yeah, that sort of tough 249 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: justice thing is the only way to keep the country safe, 250 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, yeah, man, it's just a shame 251 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: that they got Mark, Like yeah, you know, I mean, 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: if Mark has to go, he's got to go. He 253 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: did sniff glue. You know, he was a glue stick. 254 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: He was a glue stiffer. And he stole a cell 255 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: phone that one. I mean, the point of the matter is, 256 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: no death squad is perfect. You know, you can't hold 257 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: a death squad to an unreasonable standard. You know, a 258 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: death squad, I would say, you want a death squad 259 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: to be at least accurate. But anymore than that, you're 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of asking for the moon, you really are. Yeah, 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: and they don't. You don't want them going to some 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: shitty college like Oxford right now, that's our university. They 263 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: do their own research poorly, I would imagine. Uh so 264 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: do Tote had won six and a half million more 265 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: votes in the next most popular candidate in the presidential election, 266 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: so it was not particularly close. The public seemed to 267 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: eat up his promises of unspeakable violence and death. In fact, 268 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: after his election, the president started to claim that he'd 269 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: killed three suspected criminals while he was mayor of de 270 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Vous City. The way he tells it, it it sounds like 271 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: he ambushed three people and gunned them down in the street. 272 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: He's very proud of this. He also claims to have 273 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: thrown a rape and murder suspect out of a flying helicopter. Well, 274 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: here's here's just a quick question. It's not like a bus, 275 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, like where you just happened to run into 276 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: someone that you don't know who happens to be a 277 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: rape and murder suspect. Like why were they in the 278 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: same Like there's the pilot, there's the co pilot, there's 279 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the president, and then there's a rape and murder suspect. 280 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Like how many people are in this helicopter just wandering in? 281 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming what he's talking about is like when Pinochet 282 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: was president, it would capture communists, they would take them 283 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: up in helicopters, and that's how they'd executed that. It 284 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: wasn't an opportunistic thing. It was just it's just like, 285 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: who then is this rapist? So I'm the president, what 286 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: do you do? Well, I'm a rapist. Your seat belt, sir, 287 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: door opened. It would be kind of cute if it 288 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: was just serendipity. Yeah, well that's a weird coincidence. You're 289 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the president, I'm a rapist. Oh well, just push me 290 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: right on out, jump up into the blades. Oh boy, Rodrigo, 291 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, now that he's president, has managed to stay humble. 292 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: He insists that his colleagues continue to call him mayor. 293 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: This is somewhat fitting because do tear te more or 294 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: less does the same things as president that he did 295 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: his mayor, just on a grander scale. One of his 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: first priorities after being elected was to secure a massive 297 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: increase in the Presidential Intelligence Fund, which can be used 298 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: with the president's discretion with no oversight, to do things 299 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: like pay assassins on motorcycles to murder drug users in 300 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the streets hypothetically. Hypothetically, hypothetically, you could also use it 301 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: birthday parties, of course, streamers instead. We don't have to 302 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: name all the things. Let's just name that one. And 303 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: and in fact, disbursements from the Intelligence Fund are not 304 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: itemized and unless supported by agencies, and receipt of the 305 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: money are not audited. So that's nice. It increased roughly 306 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: from like fifty million dollars the year before to ten 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: million dollars now that do Chete was president. And yeah, 308 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: he gets to use it basically on whatever he wants. 309 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's kind of neat. He gets to 310 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: like buy gifts and rewards for like for people he 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: wants to bribe, and he also gets to buy bullets 312 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: for people that he wants to kill people and pay 313 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: the money for killing people. That's nice. We should have 314 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: have a presidential intelligence fund that just is completely unaccountable, 315 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: like a good time. Yeah, i'd be good with a 316 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: president with intelligence. Thank you so much. We'll be right back. Nice, nice, 317 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: It is about time. I know that you were joking 318 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: with that ad break, but let's do an actual ad 319 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: break and fucking blow some people's minds. I'll take it. 320 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Buy some products. We're back, boy, howdy. I mean, those 321 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: products and services were just so much better than the 322 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: products and services that came on during whatever last ad 323 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: break you'll listen to. Yeah, I feel comfortable saying you 324 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: build off the previous one, which is a professional thing 325 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely, always taking steps forward and 326 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: never taking steps backwards, unless you're taking a step backward 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: in order to make a long jump forwards like Seaquille O'Neal. Yeah. 328 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Or one of those assholes on a hike who walk 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: up backwards to work the front with the front part 330 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: of your life. Does that happen in a lot of hikes. 331 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll see him. I mean, that could be your death 332 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: squad thing, but it could be what you use your 333 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: death squad for. The al Right, well we've got two 334 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: things for the death squad. People who make their own 335 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: speed limits and people who walk backwards on ice. All right, See, 336 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: everybody's got a death squad if you really think hard 337 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: at it. And I challenge you listeners at home, pick 338 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: your death squad target. Everyone's got a group, you know, 339 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: all right, So do tartes first year in office saw 340 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: ten thousand deaths from his now national death squads. Now 341 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: you may note that is three times as many people 342 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: who died during the Bloody Rain of Ferdinand Marcos. So 343 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: he is in the first year, in his first years yea, 344 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: and Marcos had like fourteen years. Is dictator and fucking 345 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: do Tartes not even dictator yet? And he's he's already 346 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: way better at killing people. So I'll give that to him. 347 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Like he's a better dictator than Ferdinand. He's better at 348 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: murdering people than Ferdinand. Move scho he moves fast. He's 349 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: not a lazy president riot. You would not say that 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: about him, although he does not like to get up 351 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: early in the morning. Not one third of the people 352 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: shot dead were by the police. The vast majority two 353 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: thirds died in vigilante hits by killers. Writing in tandem, Now, 354 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: writing in tandem is sort of a phrase in the Philippines. 355 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: A bicycle built for two, right, it's two people on 356 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: a motor site. Right. And this technique was first pioneered 357 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: by Griselda Blanco, who we did an episode on. She 358 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: was most likely the inspiration for this strategy because Rodrigo 359 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: dou Tarte is a huge fan of true crime novels 360 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: and I think the show Narcos, so he seems to 361 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: get ideas. He invited like a true crime novelist over 362 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: to the country to hang with him instead of God. Like, 363 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: he seems to get a lot of his ideas from 364 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: these things. And he clearly saw like, oh, motorcycle assassins, 365 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: that's a really good way to kill people in this Yeah, 366 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: it's a great way because you don't have to worry 367 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: about traffic. You know, that's true. Yeah, it's sensible. It's 368 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: the only way to run a death squad in a 369 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: city with severe urban congestion. Yeah, I mean, you can't 370 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: do it from an suvdeo. Oh my god, can you 371 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: imagine Jesus, No, what a waste of gasoline. I mean, 372 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: you only have so much money in the slush fund, right, 373 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: It's just it makes more sense. It's just good economics exactly. 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: An awful lot of little kids have died, and that's 375 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: an ugly I'm sitting that one out. A lot of 376 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: children died in the crossfire of this drug war. Refers 377 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: to these dead children as collateral damage. Here's the Guardian. 378 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Do Tart said those cases would be investigated, but added 379 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: that police can kill hundreds of civilians without criminal liability. 380 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: He gave a hypothetical example of an officer using an 381 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: M sixteen rifle when dealing with a gangster who wields 382 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: a pistol. Quote when they meet, the exchange fire with 383 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: the policeman in the M sixteen, it's one burst burr 384 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: and he hits the thousand people there and they die. 385 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: It could not be negligence because you have to save 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: your life. It could not be recklessness because you have 387 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: to defend yourself. So if a policeman fires a thousand 388 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: rounds wildly into a crowd because the one guy had 389 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: a gun, that's okay, oh my god. Which is like, 390 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: it's like the problems we have now with police in 391 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: our country, but taken to the nth level, because here 392 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: we'd be like at least and people panicked and like, 393 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, the right thing wasn't done, but it was 394 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: not purposeful. And he's just like, no, you can fire 395 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: a thousand rounds doing fuck it? Yeah, you ahead again, 396 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: right one. I mean that guy with the gun could 397 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: have killed ten people, upwards of a dozen people off 398 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: to save ten. Yeah. Of course the checks out um 399 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: dictator math would be a fun class to teach, associated 400 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: it would. On Christmas two thousand sixteen, twelve year old 401 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Christine Joyce Salog was shot and killed in the car 402 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: park of her church is she left Christmas Mass. The 403 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: bullet that killed her was alleged to have been fired 404 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: by a mask man on a motorcycle, aiming at someone 405 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: else who also died in the attack. At least thirty 406 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: one children were shot dead in the first six months 407 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: of the national drug war. The youngest victim was four. 408 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: In August and early September of two seventeen, ninety six 409 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: people were killed in Manila in the space of what 410 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: the police called a one time, big time assault on 411 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: drug dealers in the capital. Here's fire and fury in 412 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: the Philippines. The first to die was seventeen year old 413 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: can Lloyd Delo Santos and Calocan City, on the northern 414 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: fringes of Metropolitan Manila Police claimed that he was a 415 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: meth dealer who had fired at cops during a raid. 416 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: They had acted in self defense, they said, after he 417 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: had opened fire on them. But for once, CCTV footage 418 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: emerged that told a very different story. It clearly showed 419 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: two plainclosed police officers dragging the teenager away before he 420 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: was shot dead in a rubbish strewn alleyway. His body 421 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: dumped next to a pig sty. He was found with 422 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: a hole in his head and another gunshot wound to 423 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: his torso, grasping a pistol in his left hand. His 424 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: parents said their son was right handed. Justice Secretary Battaliano 425 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Aguir the Second described the killing as an isolated case. 426 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Human Rights Watch said that to deliberately target children for 427 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: execution marks an appalling new level of depravity in this 428 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: so called drugs war. So people started to have issues 429 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: with all of the murdering. Can's funeral became a giant 430 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: pro test march against the new drug war. More than 431 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: five thousand people took to the streets. Many of them 432 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: were family members of people who've been murdered by duteier 433 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: taste hired guns. The government was forced to investigate, and 434 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: the Justice Department actually did look into the killings. This 435 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: led to the firing of the entire person police force 436 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: in the city of Calucan, where Kan had been killed. 437 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: They were ordered to receive forty five days of training, 438 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: and then most of them were rehired and reassigned other stations, 439 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: which you may recognize as not being fired. Right, right, 440 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: and also very odd for the Catholic Church, which he 441 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: hates so much. He's taking an exact strategy that they 442 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: used by reassigned. Oh my god, I didn't even think 443 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: about that. But he is doing the rape priest thing, 444 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: but with cops that shoot children, right, Yeah, remarkable, one 445 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: of the worst sentences I've ever heard. Priest with cops children. 446 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: It's just a bang, bang bang of horribleness. Yeah, it's 447 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: really yeah, but efficient, a very efficient sentence and accurate. Unfortunately, 448 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: we'll say this for the Catholic Church, they know how 449 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: to cover up a crime for a while, for for 450 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: a while. So yeah, Can's parents met with Duterte, who 451 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: told them those who had committed wrong would not go unpunished. 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: This was not enough to stop the Catholic Church from 453 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: condemning Duterte for all of the deaths. Deuterte did not 454 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: actually give a funk what the church had to say, 455 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: as I noted in the first episode. In two thousand sixteen, 456 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: after Your Pope Francis's motorcade caused a traffic Jaman Manila, 457 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: he called the Holy Father a son of a whore. Now, 458 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: this particular phrase is if you haven't guessed the president's favorite. 459 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: The exact term he uses is putang ena, which translates 460 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: roughly to son of a whore. Apparently, some people count 461 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: his p i s fire and Fury actually makes the 462 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: claim that there are people who sort of like listen 463 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: to his speeches to see how many times he'll say 464 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: son of a whore, and so far the record is 465 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: forty eight times in a forty five minute speech, which 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: is a lot of times. It does make it seem 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: like less of an attack on the Pope. He just 468 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: can't stand like, that's just like a comma for this guy. 469 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: What was the speech on you know, like, oh, I 470 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: have no idea um that would be, but yeah, yeah, 471 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: he's probably Yeah. When Philippine priests condemned do Tarte for 472 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: slandering the Pope, do Tarte responded, we are all the 473 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: creations of God. We have God given talents. The talent 474 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: that God gave me is cussing. Instead of blaming me, 475 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: blame God because he created me. Bullet proof logic. You 476 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: gotta give it to him. There the ultimate deflection. Yeah, No, 477 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: God made me. He made me good at saying fucking whore. 478 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Whatever right you pray to him, You pray to him, 479 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: you ask him. Yeah, I'm just doing what's natural. Um Now. 480 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: President do Tarte did eventually apologize to the Pope, but 481 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: he seems to honestly have very little control over his mouth. 482 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: In the moment when he met with thein Secretary of 483 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: State John Kerry, he called the U. S Ambassador America's 484 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: gay ambassador. Uh and he meant gay as a slur 485 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: and is a literal thing. It's it's kind of hard 486 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: to tell. He called President Barack Obama a son of 487 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: a whore in two thousand and sixteen, and then apologized 488 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: for that too. In June of two eighteen, Rodrigo dou 489 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: Tete really shot for the moon and declared God stupid. 490 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: Here's just going after God, the guy everything. Here's the 491 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: BBC reporting on a speech he gave in Devour City, 492 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: asking who is this stupid God? Mr do Tart criticized 493 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: the biblical story of creation and Adam and Eve being 494 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: thrown out of the garden of Eden after the eighth 495 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: of forbidden Fruit. You created something perfect and then you 496 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: think of an event that would attempt and destroy the 497 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: quality of your work, He said, so really has some 498 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: logical problems with God? Right, fair enough, there's some holes 499 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: in that story if you poke enough. Yeah, yeah, oh boy, Yeah, 500 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to the fallout of calling God stupid because 501 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: it's not great in a country where like nine people 502 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: are a Christian. Yeah, now, right now. One of the 503 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: big debates in Philippine politics, alongside should we be murdering 504 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: drug users and petty criminals in the streets, is whether 505 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: or not President do Tete is going to clare martial 506 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: law like his predecessor Ferdinand Marcos and like the U. 507 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: S Military before Marcos Uh. In May of two seventeen, 508 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: around one Muslim fighters laid siege to the city of 509 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: Marawi on the island of Mendano. In response, the president 510 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: declared martial law across the island. So not all of 511 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: the Philippines in the island of Mendana, which is also 512 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: the island where devout city is. Fire and Fury discusses 513 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: an address he gave the soldiers on Mendano shortly after 514 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: the declaration quote. He sought to reassure them that should 515 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: they be accused of committing abuses under martial law, he 516 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: would take personal responsibility for their actions. Then he joked, 517 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: if you raped three, I admit it, that's on me. Yeah, 518 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: no one laughed. But when social media exploded withoutrage, Yeah, 519 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: that's what Fire and Fury says. No one laughed. I 520 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: wasn't there. The ultimate fool me. Once you're raped three people, 521 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: that's on me. Social media exploded with outrage. Chelsea Clinton 522 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: attacked Uterte, said he was a murderous thug with no 523 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: regard for human rights and a sickening sense of humor. 524 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Rape is never a joke. Not funny ever, so that 525 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Chelsea Clinton went after the President of the Philippines. Not 526 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: sure why she wound up seeing his tweets, but whatever, 527 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: it's worthwhile thing to attack him on. Do Tarte did 528 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: not wait for his pr people to figure out a 529 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: good response or some way to spend the story. He 530 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: gave another speech a little bit later to naval officers 531 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: and devout and reminded Miss Clinton of her father's affair 532 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: with Monica Lewinsky. Here's do Terte talking to naval officers, 533 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: but really talking to Chelsea Clinton, because I don't think 534 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: he's a big Twitter guy. These hors they hear rape 535 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: like Chelsea, she slammed me. I was not joking. I 536 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: was being sarcastic. I will tell her when your father, 537 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: the president of the United States then was screwing Lewinsky 538 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: and the girls in the Office of the President on 539 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the table on the sofa, how did you feel did 540 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: you slam your father? Which if you thought locker room 541 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: talk was bad, try Filipino naval ship talk. That's pretty 542 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: bad as well. This gives me to something. One of 543 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: the nicknames he's gotten is like the Trump of the Philippines, 544 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: which I don't think is fair. He is way worse 545 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: than Donald Trump, saying so much grosser and more violent 546 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: and like scary, right uh? And and also but who 547 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: is because they both admire each other, Like you said before, 548 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: they really get along. Yeah, I'm sure almost the same person. 549 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: They are, just yeah, ones more openly violence. Well, I 550 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: feel like do Tarrte is Donald Trump if he had 551 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: physical courage because Do Tcharite is clearly not afraid to 552 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: get and dirty. Put Yeah, like his Les Kanyes, the 553 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: guy who claims to have been one of the heads 554 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 1: of the di squad, claims that he's watched the president 555 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: kill eight people. I can't imagine Trump doing that. I 556 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: just don't think he's got the stomach for He isn't 557 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: like one of the biggest narcissistic assholes in the world 558 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Trump is, but he is also a coward. Yeah, well, 559 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: they is the opposite of a coward. He's certainly not 560 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: a physical coward. He's willing to like get into the 561 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: fucking MUCKs say that for him. He's also really attacking 562 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Chelsea Clinton. He in a way that's very gross. So 563 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: in October of two seventeen, Steven Seagal came to visit 564 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Rodrigo do Tarte. Of course course, of course, Steven Seagal 565 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: came to visit you ter day. I'm surprised he wasn't 566 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: already there. He just has a home there. The two 567 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: hitted off. Seagal was in country to do location scouting 568 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: for a film about illegal drugs and other crimes. Apparently, 569 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: what he said, they took a picture together, punching towards 570 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: the camera, and it's it's everything that you would expect. 571 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: It will be incredible, but it's it's a great picture. 572 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: That's one website behind the bastards dot com. Steven Seagal. Yeah, 573 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: the guy really knows who to associate himself with. Yeah. 574 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: The president allegedly told Segal that he believes movies reflect life, 575 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: then talk to him about his plans for the drug 576 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: war quote. Segal endorsed him in exchange, confiding that he 577 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: had made close to a hundred visits to the Philippines 578 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: over the years, Although he didn't say why, what he 579 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: did say was that he was a big fan of 580 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: the president, who has been instrumental in making the Philippines 581 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: a safer place. Steve. We all know why, stevens galen 582 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: of the Philippines a hundred times. And it's gross. They 583 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: don't need to say anything more about and it is gross. 584 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: It's super gross. I'll so, I feel like you can 585 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: predict that with any vacation Steven Seagal makes, there's probably 586 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: one reason he's vacationing there. And it's gross. Steven Seagal, Right, 587 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: oh god, that's disgusting. Film poison poured into a heavy suit, 588 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: whatever kind of suit he's wearing in that that's a 589 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: solidified cylinder of milk. Yeah yeah, he does look like 590 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: what happens when a human being curdles, right. Uh. In 591 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: February of eighteen, President Do Tete gave a speech to 592 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: two hundred communist guerilla fighters who had surrendered. A quarter 593 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: of them were female. During the speech, he specifically instructed 594 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: his soldiers not to kill any female fighters they encountered 595 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: in the field, shoot their vagina, because without that they 596 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: are useless. He then addressed the surrendered women, we won't 597 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: kill you. We will just shoot your vagina. If there 598 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: is no vagina, it would be useless. And he's referring 599 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: to the women women, right yeah, yeah, yeah, Rodrigod tarr 600 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: te everybody. Yeah. Uh. For the first year or so 601 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: that he was in power to Tear, his approval ratings 602 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: were unassailable, But in more recent months it seems like 603 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 1: he started to stumble. It's kind of hard to say 604 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: because I've I've found some surveys and whatnot say that 605 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: his approval ratings dropped after the calling God's stupid comment 606 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: down Like, but that's just one. Another said fifty six. 607 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I found another couple that say he's still very popular 608 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: in the seventies or eighties. So these aren't numbers being 609 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: filtered through the government. These are actually these are other 610 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: people trying to figure out what's going on. It does 611 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: seem like his approval rating has fallen, particularly in the 612 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: last six months. Growing inflation seems to be a big 613 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: part of that. So it's not clear if all of 614 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: the murder and vagina shooting comments have actually had an 615 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: impact or it's just because the economy stumbled. But it 616 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: seems like he maybe finally losing some support, but there's 617 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: also evidence that he is still very popular, So I 618 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: don't know. It's like, what do you have to do? 619 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: It's almost in another just mirroring Trump is when Trump 620 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: said that like fam is quote where he could shoot 621 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: someone in the middle of the street and it wouldn't 622 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: affect anything. To Tarte literally shot multiple people in the 623 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: middle and his approval rating scott and he got elected president. Yeah, 624 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: he became Yeah, people were big fans of that. Interestingly enough, 625 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: Rodrigo Jutarte is something of a hypocrite on the matter 626 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: of drugs. According to Fire and Fury in the Philippines. 627 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Deutarte has confessed to taking several times the prescribed dosage 628 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: of the powerful painkiller fentonyl, the synthetic opioid on which 629 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: the musician Prince overdosed and died. When it was reported 630 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: that himself was a drug addict, he retracted his claim 631 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and said he'd been joking. Side effects of this highly 632 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: addictive drug include mood swings, cognitive abnormalities, confusion, trouble concentrating, 633 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: feeling sad or empty, in erectile dysfunction, although this would 634 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: be countered by his enthusiastic embrace of viagra, which he 635 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: is publicly bragged about. So no evidence that that is 636 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: an actual thing that he takes. What a fucking drug cocktail? 637 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: That is like a bunch of fyl board that is 638 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: war heart crisis speedball. Yeah, we hope it's I hope 639 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: it's bad for his So as as we speak to, 640 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: Chart is currently trying to convince both houses of the 641 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: Philippine Congress to reintroduce capital punishment. If that happens, they 642 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: will be the first country in history to ban capital 643 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: punishment and then reintroduce it. Do Charte has said he'd 644 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: like to put five or six people to death every day. 645 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: As you might expect, he's never a dollman for journalist 646 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: to cover. On one occasion, a Filipino journalist asked about 647 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: the president's health. He called the assembled journalists sons of whorse, 648 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: and then he asked the reporter who questioned him, how 649 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: is your wife's vagina? Is it smelly or not smelly? 650 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: Give me a report. So this is the president in 651 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: a press conference to National News. Another time, he was 652 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: he's saying that it's inappropriate to ask if he's in 653 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: good health. You're the president. It's always appropriate to make 654 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: sure you're in good health. You're the president. It is 655 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: our business, you're the press. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. I 656 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: was trying to apply a logic to a logical situation, 657 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: and now he's just a mad Yeah. Another time, he 658 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: was asked about what he planned to do to protect 659 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: journalist in the Philippines, the deadliest country in Asia for journalists. 660 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: Five I think have died at least since he took office, responded, 661 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: Just because you're a journalist, you are not exempted from 662 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: assassination if you are a son of a bitch. So 663 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: it's good to know it. Qualifier. Yeah, it's hard to 664 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: say how serious Rodrigo is about that or half of 665 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: the ridiculous things he says. The president is on record 666 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: is saying that out of every five things he says, 667 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: only two are true and the other three are just 668 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: wise cracks. That's why it's hard to know if his 669 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: next plans for the nation include an expansion of the 670 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: state of martial law. In Mendano, when asked about that, 671 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: he has said, quote, you know, I have to protect 672 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: the Filipino people. It is my duty. And I tell 673 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: you now, if I have to declare martial law, I 674 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: will declare it. I will declare martial law to preserve 675 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: my nation. Period. So he's probably gonna de clare martial law. Yeah, 676 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: or he is joking because you know how funny martial laws. 677 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: That might be one of those three out of five 678 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: statements that he's joking about it. I wonder he's claimed 679 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: to kill people at least three times, so the odds 680 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: are he's at least not lying about one of the 681 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: murders that he's admitted to committing. Rodrigo do terr te 682 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: quite the fellow. How do you feel having learned all this? 683 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I feel great, I feel good. I find energize. I 684 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: feel like it's motivating me to do more with my 685 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: life and and lie more often. And that does seem 686 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: to be one of the through lines of all these 687 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: bastards is that if you just keep lying and saying 688 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: insane things to people and and shouting and then accepting 689 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: responsibility whatever, accept responsibility, call everyone a son of a whore, 690 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: have people's shot. That is, if I was going to 691 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: like write, what's this famous self help book people like 692 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: the purpose Driven Life, perfect the death Squad Driven Life, 693 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: you could do a do terr Te themed version of 694 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: that and it would have a lot of good advice 695 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: for politics and murder, yeah, which are unfortunately have come 696 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: together as one thing in this podcast. They're inextricably intertwined. Yeah. Um, 697 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: well this has been great. Yeah, you want to plug 698 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: some plug doubles before we I am blake Lex. 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