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Speaker 1: and it is episode two of Clayton's season. And Ben, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying you enjoying. I am enjoying. I was just

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Speaker 1: we said it best last week. I have no questions

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Speaker 1: about Clayton as a human, Like, this is no critique

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Speaker 1: on Clayton as a human whatsoever. I had questions about

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Speaker 1: him being chosen as the Bachelor. But I'm enjoying this season,

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Speaker 1: which makes me right now say Clayton is doing a

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Speaker 1: great job as our Bachelor. I really think that. Or

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Speaker 1: the producers are doing a great job producing the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, and the women are really stepping up.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are really doing more than they were asked.

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Speaker 1: There was there was one tendency of of Clayton's that

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Speaker 1: I picked up though on I think he's very obvious

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Speaker 1: when he's into somebody when he's not. And I think

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Speaker 1: even so into. Why not, I mean, come on now,

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Speaker 1: so for it. I mean, but yeah, we're gonna break

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Speaker 1: down all of this with Connor Saley today, the whole episode.

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Speaker 1: But I will say, uh, as of right now, producers

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Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm enjoying this season. I do not mind

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Speaker 1: watching Clayton on television, which sometimes I have like just this,

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Speaker 1: like I would rather not see you until right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying watching him. I think I still think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get have a really hard time. I still think

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Speaker 1: I agreed. That's what Nick was telling us last week.

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Speaker 1: Let's not give Nick all the credit here. Hey Ashley,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a big week for you. Um obviously, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we celebrate your baby shower, thanks to hund for that.

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Speaker 1: We also, um, I'm recovering from COVID. So like he

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Speaker 1: didn't have symptoms people he had like a stuff like

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Speaker 1: I was tired. I was tired, I had stuffy knows

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Speaker 1: I was a little tired. I'm now done. I'm negative.

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Speaker 1: you know, we made it through it. We worked all

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Speaker 1: ready for this week's episode. Ashley, You're back home. We

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Speaker 1: talked about on your baby shower episode, which will air

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Speaker 1: the twentie of this month. That's a big episode, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of we had a lot of fun. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome again. That was just so much fun

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Speaker 1: to celebrate you and bring in some guests. But that

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Speaker 1: will air the twenty But until then, you are back

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Speaker 1: home right now for anybody listening for a few months

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Speaker 1: kind of uh, I'm actually I think I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: is born. I don't know. No, nesting is when you're

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Speaker 1: like decorating and organizing, and that's the one thing that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's not going to have a problem. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna My mom literally has turned one of the guest

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Speaker 1: have to put that together, but like it's not like

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Speaker 1: some people say it looks like Ben's hit rock bottom. Well,

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Speaker 1: a big episode for you today. Connor Saley is here

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Speaker 1: to break down this episode of the Bachelor. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: Clayton's second episode. We're enjoying it so far. We're here.

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Speaker 1: We will hear if Connor is as well when we

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Speaker 1: we have Connor Saley on the phone. He is going

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, this episode episode two, Connor, You

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Speaker 1: is it's crazy to think about that, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: think the most the most standout for me in this

425
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: was Serene, who is a teacher. She said she loved

426
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: being around the kids and playing um. She said that,

427
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: like her intention wasn't going into teaching, but that's how

428
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: things evolved for her. And it wasn't like she said

429
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: anything significant that made me be like, oh, well, this

430
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: girl is awesome. But I did feel like he was

431
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: the most into her, and he said something along the

432
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: lines of like there's something we haven't done together and

433
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: that is kissed, So can I do it? Yeah? I

434
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: liked her a lot too. I felt like their conversation

435
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: the nighttime part, it just it felt like there was

436
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: more of a connection there than the other woman that

437
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: we had seen time with him. So I I thought

438
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: she was kind of the stand out that date, at

439
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: least in the nighttime part for me, But really we

440
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: didn't really get to see much of anyone else. Now.

441
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: The only other thing I can remember really is Teddy

442
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: saying to Clayton that it was emotional for her to

443
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: see him with other girls after getting the first impression Rose,

444
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: and that she's going to need like a lot of

445
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: words of affirmation. She's going to need to be like secured.

446
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: She's going to need to like to be told a

447
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: lot throughout this journey that he still likes her. That's

448
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: a big moment. I'd be shocked if Teddy isn't in

449
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: the final two. I mean, I also go that far now.

450
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: I just think out of all many recent seasons, she's

451
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: one of those cast members that stand out in so

452
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: many different ways. I also thought this was a great

453
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: time for Clayton and he did a tremendous job at

454
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: it when she said that, and you know he's into

455
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: her very obvious. He takes that moment, and he says,

456
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: I will reassure you, like I will make sure you

457
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: know how like much I want you here so now

458
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: And this is hard on this show, but like now

459
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: it opens up the space for them to have those

460
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: conversations where like sometimes you like, I don't know how

461
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: they feel about me, I don't know if he likes me,

462
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: if she likes me. Now I think like they're gonna

463
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: be able to progress because they're gonna be able to

464
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: start saying like, I'm really is glad you're still here.

465
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: I missed you, And she's gonna know he means it,

466
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: and he's gonna know she means it. That's why I

467
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: think they have such a powerful, powerful story ahead of him. Yeah, Ben,

468
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: having so having been the Bachelor before, I guess this

469
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: first week of dates, how big were those for you

470
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: in terms of like you obviously had the first impressions

471
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: from the first row ceremony, but like actually having conversations

472
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: where like after that first week of dates where you're like, Okay,

473
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: these are you know, there's a handful of people I

474
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: could really see this with. Did you kind of have

475
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: that like solidified in your head or not, like a

476
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: group of people, but I'd say there's like i'd say,

477
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: the first impressions, I'm I really I think I have

478
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: always been very impacted by first impressions, and so i'd

479
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: say there's like two or three women after the first

480
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: night and the first week, I mean, I kind of

481
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: went it at it with a different strategy. I was

482
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: trying to identify the ones that were like loose cannons first.

483
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: So like I was always gonna look out for, like

484
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: what signs are here that, like, this person doesn't get

485
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: along with others, this person is like pulling me away

486
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: all the time, knowing that like this is a huge, huge,

487
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: like group of people still, and so I was mostly

488
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: whittling it down from the back to the front, I

489
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: felt like. And then there was like two or three

490
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: after the first week that I remember going, I think

491
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be here a while and and and in

492
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: fact a lot of them were there for a long

493
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: time because of their like mostly their behavior around other

494
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: people and on group dates. Group dates are a great

495
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: time to see like, honestly, who are the producers are

496
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: paying the most attention to, who seems to be asking

497
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: for the most attention, who's arguing with those who's the

498
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: one tattle telling on everybody, like you can really start

499
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: to see that, you know, week one mm hmm, super interesting,

500
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Um that you would look out for who's interacting with

501
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: producers the most. So now we get to the group

502
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: date Rose and Cassidy gets it because she was the

503
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: one who made the most effort he said, and getting

504
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: to know him, and he likes that she's like putting

505
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: off that confident, semi aggressive vibe. I remember this. You know,

506
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: he'll learn a lot watching the show back for us

507
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: his viewers. We're watching this and going she was pulling

508
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: him all the time, she made all these girls upset,

509
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: like you know, she did all this. He doesn't see

510
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: half of that. I mean, honestly, he doesn't even know

511
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: half of that's going on. All he sees is this

512
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: girl that's like very into him, pulling him away, coming

513
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: to talk to him, like reassuring him. He doesn't know

514
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: right now of the drama really going on behind the scenes.

515
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: And so I'm not shocked she got the first impression Rose,

516
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: because out of all this day, out of this whole

517
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: date or group date, Rose, Um, out of this date,

518
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: I think he she did she stepped up. Now, I

519
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good long term strategy. I don't

520
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: see this lasting for a while, but at this point,

521
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: I think he just recognized she's into me. She made

522
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: an effort, and I need to reward that at some level,

523
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: not knowing the consequences behind the scenes, Yeah, i'd agree

524
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: with that, and I feel like for him to, I mean,

525
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't been in this situation before. He you know,

526
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: wasn't didn't go that far in Michelle season, and he

527
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: went pretty far, but I wasn't there at the very end.

528
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: So he's been kind of thrown into this. And i'd

529
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: imagine on the first date of the whole experience, you're

530
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: probably looking for, you know, someone who's really you know,

531
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: giving a lot of validation and reassurance. And so she

532
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: definitely did that. And so as a viewer, you're right,

533
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like, why why in the world did he give

534
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that to her? But I can understand why he did.

535
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: It makes sense. So Susie has the one on one

536
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: day and they go on a helicopter ride. She seems

537
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: she says she's nervous, but she seems very in her element,

538
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: like she seems pretty comfortable, very excited, very positive to

539
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: things that he's really into They land on an amazing yacht.

540
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: They get to like hang out in the water and

541
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: just lounge on the boat for a while. You can

542
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: tell he's so into her. I think she's into him.

543
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: But I think there's definitely an imbalanced there. I don't

544
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: know if you guys picked that up, Yeah you did.

545
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I just don't. I

546
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: just don't see it with them. I think there's a

547
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: just like, obviously, she's like a very attractive girl. She

548
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: has that like bubbly personality, which I think is super attractive.

549
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: You know. I'm sure Colton finds it that way, but

550
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: I did the same thing. Man. It's it's it's just

551
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: part of it. I think this year. Yeah, um, but

552
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I just don't think she's as into him,

553
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: to be honest, I really don't. That's interesting. I mean

554
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: we kind of got that hint right when. I mean,

555
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: if I remember, right when she left in the day,

556
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: one of the other girls was saying that she just

557
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: didn't seem that excited, uh, And she broached that with

558
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Clayton right away. She said, Hey, I'm super nervous. I'm

559
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: excited to be here with you, but I'm just super nervous. However,

560
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: um yeah, I think when this date ended, even I

561
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: have a feeling this girl is going to break Clayton's heart.

562
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna be really into her, and at some point

563
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I believe later on she's gonna probably step away and

564
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those moments that we see

565
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: him right, I think she. I think I just get

566
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: that sense right now that that could turn. Right. We've

567
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: seen this turn and connections build. But I'm with you too,

568
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel it on her side to you know,

569
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: for him, she's going to be somebody that breaks his heart. Yeah.

570
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I do see her going very far though, too, And honestly,

571
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because she

572
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: looks very similar to Hannah Brown. Yeah she does. There

573
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: were a lot of times I saw I was like,

574
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: wait is that? But I could almost see her as

575
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: like the next Bachelaratte. I feel like she kind of

576
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: has that like you know, I don't know, there's something

577
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: he has that presence. It definitely does. Um yeah, we'll see.

578
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like every time like he would

579
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: go in for a kiss, it was like she was like, Okay,

580
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: so let's see how it evolves. All right. Next up,

581
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: we have the second group date where we do get

582
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I think truly villainous behavior from Chee. We're just gonna

583
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: call uh. So she definitely targets this girl Elizabeth for

584
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: absolutely no reason. So they walk into this barn. There's

585
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: a comedian at the desk set up like a classroom,

586
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: and she and she she's telling them that they're going

587
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: to play a game of Uh. Never have I ever

588
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: was just actually like, I think really fun and well

589
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I was terrified of this game in my mid twenties

590
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: when people would be like people would be like, never

591
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: have I ever like done something great, like, you know,

592
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: something sexual, right, And I would just be like, I

593
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: want to avoid this game at every single in every

594
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: single way. Oh yeah, I know, right, Oh my god,

595
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: but it was so awkward. Um. Now I think it'd

596
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: be so much fun to play, and I think it

597
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: gets you to know people well, So I'm like really

598
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: down for this. Um And then this schirl Elizabeth seems

599
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: very nice. She sits down next to Clayton and it's

600
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: like can I sit here? And He's like yeah, and

601
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: and it's really annoys to the point where she like

602
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: makes her her villa like makes her the target for

603
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Um, they're like sort of learning,

604
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I guess, because like they're sitting next to each other.

605
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: But there wasn't some crazy chemistry. If I was she inanee,

606
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, oh my god, threat alert, threat alert.

607
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: But she definitely feels So I just want to go

608
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: on record because last week I said I have a

609
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: feeling the sane girl is gonna be a villain. I

610
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: just get to get the feeling. I I just I

611
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: just want to put it out there. If I have

612
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: one skill set in life, it's being an expert at

613
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. So I think before too, they showed a

614
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: scene of I think it was Cassidy and talking, and

615
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like casting may have like

616
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: planted the idea that she should just like go for it,

617
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: keep pulling him all of that stuff, and then I

618
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: feel like she wasn't able to do that, and then

619
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: she just like went on this rampage of you know,

620
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: just being like piste off about it. Can you guys

621
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: remind me in recent memory, has there ever been the

622
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: two like biggest villains in quotes um team up on

623
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: this show? I mean I feel like they're like a

624
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: tag team right now, like ones pouring in the other

625
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: being like, don't let this person win, watch out for

626
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: the front runner, like cut him off at the knees,

627
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Like I've never I don't remember the villains, Like, yeah,

628
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: it was like j J and Nclint. So that was

629
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: the last time they did this. Yeah, it didn't work

630
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: out well for him either. Okay, yeah, villain's got a

631
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: vill Well these two are trying to vill and uh,

632
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: it just I don't know. In my opinion, Shene has

633
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: so much on Cassidy as far as the villain goes. Um,

634
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: but we fast forward, Yeah, let's let's fast forward to

635
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: the nighttime portion because the obstacle course didn't really do much.

636
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Um as far as the building connections, Um, we see

637
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: that cast that that um, Shene just it just goes

638
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: right after Elizabeth and says that she's to to face

639
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: bitch for just no reason to Clayton, and I'm just like,

640
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: where is she pulling this out of? She ends up

641
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: um having a little like one on one time with Elizabeth,

642
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: and she says, there was that conversation we were having

643
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: back at the house and you just didn't seem to

644
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: be engaged with me. It was like you were ignoring

645
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: me straight to my face. And then Elizabeth explains that

646
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: she's a d h D, which means that she has

647
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: a hard time focusing on two things at once, so

648
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: she might be zoned in on one person's conversation and

649
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: have to block out the other. She says, she's so

650
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: sorry if that's kind of what happened, but it seems

651
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: very genuine, and that is that is truly a possibility. Yeah, no, no,

652
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And that was like such a weird conversation

653
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: at the end too, because they like hugged and made up,

654
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: but they definitely didn't make up the whole thing. But Ben, Ben,

655
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm curious because you said, like a red flag for

656
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: you was um, people like not getting along in the

657
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: house and stuff like that. So I guess if this

658
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: has brought to your attention. And there's always someone every

659
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: season that's like telling the Bachelor the Bachelorette, like the

660
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: issues that are going on in a way, like tattling

661
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: for whatever, Like how how would you sort through that

662
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: whole situation? I mean, I think it's pretty obvious when

663
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: you're in it too. You know who's coming to protect

664
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: you or like a lot of people wouldn't tell you

665
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: for the sake of they don't want to involve involve

666
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: themselves in the drama. They don't feel like it's really

667
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: their role to bring it to your attention. I had

668
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: it happened once during my season where somebody brought brought

669
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: it up to me, and I could tell that they're

670
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: coming from a place of I just need you to

671
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: know this is happening behind the scenes, and that was

672
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: my own fault. So this happened in the Bahamas. The

673
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: one of the girls came to me and said, the

674
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: girls are starting to get really upset because you seem

675
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: to only be paying attention to a few select women.

676
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: And I said, thank you for telling me, because that

677
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: wasn't my hope. It wasn't how I want to operate.

678
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: But I can see that now that was good. Like

679
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: I could tell they cared if it was this girl

680
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: is doing this and this girl is doing this. I

681
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: I just don't need you to tell me that as

682
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. It's not you guys need to figure it

683
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: out your adults. Ultimately here, I'm looking for my wife

684
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: ultimately here, Like my hope is that this leads to

685
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: something like really special, and I would hope my wife

686
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: is pretty good at conflict resolution and is pretty good

687
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: at getting along with others, and so, you know, stuff

688
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: like this would have been definitely a red flag for

689
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: me because I just would have I mean, I think

690
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: I would have taken a step back and been like this, well,

691
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: as great as maybe you even are, this isn't gonna

692
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: work because this feels like we're back in middle school

693
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not looking for a middle school date right now.

694
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: In the tattle tale situation, that was, yeah, the tattle

695
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: tale situation, and then also the kind of the follow

696
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: up to it, uh, you know, not even Elizabeth. Elizabeth

697
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: was I think thrown off and confused. I wasn't. I

698
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't have I wouldn't maybe see it that way with her.

699
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I think just shene being just so angry at this

700
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: and all the other girls. If you could have like

701
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: looked around, like what I would have done if I

702
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: was Clayton Now, I don't know if I would have,

703
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: because hindsight, what I think he could have done in

704
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: that moment is asked the girls do you feel the

705
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: same way in that group setting? And make them respond then,

706
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: because I think that he would have seen. No, this

707
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: is an Elizabeth problem. This is it was a total

708
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: newbie move, like it was definitely out of not having

709
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: a lot of experience in the first season. I feel like, yeah, well,

710
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean and also I just don't understand kind of

711
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: you could maybe speak into this. It always shocks me.

712
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: But China right now is saying that she is here

713
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: for Clayton, so we gotta believe it. We don't. We

714
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: can't assume anything else. So she's obviously wanted to be

715
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: with Clayton. So the strategy she takes is to be

716
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: the one that takes out everybody else. That strategy has

717
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: never worked in any dating relationship of any kind, So

718
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: why do they resort to that? Like who what person goes?

719
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: Especially on this show with most people now who are

720
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: on the show have seen a previous season. They go,

721
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna how I'm gonna win Clayton.

722
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that everybody else looks bad

723
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: and I will be standing at the end. Like that

724
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: just doesn't work, right, Yeah, No, I mean that never

725
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: literally never works. That person always just ends up being

726
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: the villain. Um. But I feel like it is an

727
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: intimidating environment walking into a room. At least on our season,

728
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: thirty dudes that are all like, you know, good lucking,

729
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: doing a lot of cool stuff in their lives. Is big, strong,

730
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Paul whatever. And so you know, I think some people

731
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: you kind of go into more of like a defensive

732
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: mode and try and just like knock people down. And

733
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: it's like that's what she's doing almost just like knocking

734
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: people off until she's going on left standing. Well, there

735
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: are two moments we really have to talk about before

736
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: we wrap the recap portion of this up. One when

737
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Elizabeth and Sheeny face each other again at the cocktail

738
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: party and really becomes a villain, like this is her,

739
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: this is mean stuff. She's like, she's like, she has

740
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: a d D. You know, she has a d D.

741
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: That's something that little kids have. The fact that she

742
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: kept bringing that up over and over again and and

743
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: totally making it seem like it was like an excuse

744
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: that Elizabeth came up with was outrageous. Well, and she

745
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: didn't she tell everybody to um, yeah, it's not really

746
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: her her thing to tell everyone right out of pocket

747
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: of her, but her to make it a joke. Yeah,

748
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Then there is Cassidy and she gets

749
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: called out, rat it out um that she has a

750
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: friends with benefits for the past couple of years at home,

751
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: and he's all like, well, when you come back from

752
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: this show, let's watch it together and hook up. This

753
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: is not a villainous move. Again, the stop trying to

754
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: make Cassie a villain of friends with benefits at home.

755
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: If that was ever going to turn into something that

756
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: could have turned, that would have turned into a relationship.

757
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: At this point, everyone has someone that they're texting or

758
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: something mild at home. You're attractive twentysomething, are you guys

759
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: telling me that you didn't have one person that you

760
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: would like maybe casually go on a date with when

761
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: you were on the Bachelor. I So I'm a little

762
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: torn with this one too, because I feel like it

763
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: depends on the intent. If she if she was like

764
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: going on the show just to go on and had

765
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: this friends benefits at home after that she was like

766
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: planning to come home too, then I feel like that's

767
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: not I don't know if I really vibe with that.

768
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: But if she had a friends with benefits before and

769
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: then it was like all in and like all right,

770
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if, like Clayton, if I could, you know,

771
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: if I'm his person, if we should be together, then

772
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: I think it's different. But if if she went in

773
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: with the intent of like just leaving at some point

774
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: and like, oh, I don't think that's what it was

775
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: at all. I feel like this is just some guy

776
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: that she hooks up with casually at home. She has

777
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: no intention. Weren't they weren't they messaging like in the

778
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: hotel right up to the end, or that face until

779
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: the end, and he was saying, come back and watch

780
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: this with me. And I mean, I know if I

781
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: was Clayton and I ended up with Cassidy and I

782
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: get off the show and this guy is texting her

783
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: and he's and I'm like, well, who is this? And

784
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: she tells me, oh, this is the guy I was

785
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: dating and talking to. And I said, well, up to

786
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: win and she goes the night before the show, I

787
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't be thrilled, like I would not be. Maybe I'm

788
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: making it seems maybe it's less casual than I'm making

789
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: it seem in my head because I'm thinking, like if

790
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: they end up together, oh, she's she'll never even respond

791
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: to this guy because it won't even be like a

792
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: thing because they were nothing. Maybe not. We just don't

793
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: know that, I'm saying at this point with what we know,

794
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't love it like it wouldn't be

795
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: a thing. I would. I don't think it's a great move.

796
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a deal breaker. I'm not saying

797
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: if he finds out, she should be like on the

798
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: first flight home. But this is just not a jet situation,

799
00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. According to Jet, it is you're right.

800
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I guess you're right. So so wait, so so Cassidy

801
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: already has a rose then I think at the preview,

802
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Clayton asked Jesse if anyone's ever taken a rose back? Yeah,

803
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: you do you think he's going to take the rose back? Yeah?

804
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I do. I think she's going to get eliminated, Yeah,

805
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: Or do you think he's gonna I think he's gonna

806
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: take it back. But and then I think one at

807
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: the rose ceremony, that's a possibility to Yeah. I do

808
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: believe there has been some roses taken back in the history.

809
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I just remember something happening like that.

810
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: It's definitely not the first time I just don't remember

811
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: the last time I didn't Jesse give someone a rose

812
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to give. Yeah, Jesse Palmer was, Yeah.

813
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: It's famous for calling the wrong name and looking at

814
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: the girl and being like sorry. She starts walking. He's like, sorry,

815
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: you had to turnaround and walk back back, didn't. I

816
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: think he still gave her a rose, so did he she.

817
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: I think she ended up staying for a little bit too.

818
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was the start of his hosting

819
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: career right there. That was it. He knew at that moment,

820
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back here one day and leading this thing.

821
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: You guys, I really hope I'm not like the odd

822
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: one out in like defending Cassidy here with this friends

823
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: with Benefits situation. I guess I going onto the show

824
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: was just like, is there somebody that I will definitely

825
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: see when I get home if this doesn't work out? Sure,

826
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: But if I end up being engaged to Crystals, will

827
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: I ever text him again? No? So I guess I'm

828
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: just thinking about two personally. You don't there, you go, well,

829
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it is also, I mean, kind of the

830
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: cliffhanger that we leave this episode on. I mean, this

831
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: is where we're wondering for next week, what's going to happen?

832
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: We do get a weird um. I don't know if

833
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: you noticed this, but in the teaser, because I was

834
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: wondering if you know, would still be around. We see

835
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: her in the Baywatch dates, so we know now she's

836
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: here for next week. Is a very clear picture of her.

837
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: We don't see Cassidy in any of the teasers, but

838
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: that is the cliffhanger, and so we'll take a vote

839
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: here to close out this episode or this segment with

840
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: our good friend Connor. Connor, do you believe Cassidy is

841
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: going home? Yes or no? No? Ashley, do you believe

842
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: Cassidy is going home? Yes or no? Yes. I think

843
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: she's gonna go home, and I think she will fill

844
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: in as primary villain. I am gonna say that this

845
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: is she carried too big of a role in this

846
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: episode and there's still too much to be uncovered about

847
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: her story that I think she stays. I just don't.

848
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I think her time is limited. I don't think she

849
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: makes it past the next episode. That's my vote. I

850
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: have no clue what's happening. Hey, to close this whole

851
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: thing out on this episode. Connor, what are your thoughts

852
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: on Clayton so far as the Bachelor? So I'll be

853
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I watched the first episode and the second episode back

854
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: to back, so I kind of seen the whole evolution here.

855
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he started out a little rusty, not

856
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie, I was a little dull. I think he

857
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: can realized that maybe a little bit. But I think

858
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: at the end of this second episode he kind of

859
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: warmed up a bit. It seemed like he was more

860
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: engaged in the conversations and was actually like talking to

861
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: people versus just trying to kiss them, although he did

862
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: do that. So I think he's in my opinion, he's

863
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: he's doing better. Um. I think he's actually you know,

864
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: engaging with the woman more and um I think as

865
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: the season goes on more he will keep getting better.

866
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: So I'm honestly I'm excited. I think it's cool that

867
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: they chose someone that's maybe a little bit more unknown.

868
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: It is cool to kind of get to know that

869
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: person to a little bit. But I think there's a

870
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: lot there is a lot still to be learned about Clayton.

871
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: I really don't know anything about him, to be honest, Yeah,

872
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever going to that's the

873
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: weird part um. Actually you'll know why. But this episode

874
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: did end with being one of my least favorite episodes

875
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, And really I thought the top of

876
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: the show we just kind of said that we enjoyed it.

877
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Just I don't even know if you'll be understand why.

878
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: But the very end of this episode ends with a clown.

879
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: The end of the episode was one of your least

880
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: favorite parts of a clown and that's just inappropriate. It's

881
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: not needed. It brings out fears and the audience. Are

882
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: you Are you afraid of clowns massively? I really just

883
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: hate clowns so much. Oh my gosh. Do you remember

884
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: when there was like a clown thing a few years ago? Uh,

885
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: it was like four or five years ago. I was

886
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: senior in college and like clown They were like clowns

887
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: are hiding the woods. Yeah yeah, and they even like

888
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: I was a senior in college, they had to shut

889
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: down high schools in the area because they were like

890
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: clowns showing up on campus. No, I'm so afraid of

891
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: clo I hate clowns so much. There's nothing about him

892
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. They should not be around kids.

893
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: They should not be around adults. In fact, I just

894
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: don't want to exist. Um, I think they're going to

895
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: stop with our generation guys, Like, I don't think like

896
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: anybody in our generation is going to hire a clown

897
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: for our kid's birthday. I want to I don't want

898
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: to meet that person, if there is one of them.

899
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: H Connor, thanks for joining us. Uh, we're gonna be

900
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: back with you. Will be sharing an episode. We're gonna

901
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: do it in depth with you here very soon. Catch

902
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: up on your life, everything you're up to. But until then,

903
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: thanks for breaking down this episode with us. Thank you

904
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: for having me. It's time for Bachelor headlines with our

905
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: resident expert, Ashley I Connetti. First headline is this and

906
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: it's a big one. The Bachelor's Claire Crawley and Blake

907
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Monar get cozy after Dale Moss break up. This corn

908
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: to eat. Okay, So our producers sent us this headline

909
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, Blake Monar, I

910
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: was like Blake Moyn's I was like, in my head,

911
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: I thought that she had sent like a typo, and

912
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, like that could make sense

913
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: at least like for jealousy purposes for a couple of months,

914
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, the two of them trying to get flirty.

915
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: But then I click the link and I see it's

916
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: Blake Monar, And then I click on who Blake Monar

917
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: is on Instagram. Still can't figure it out, Like this

918
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: guy looks kind of random and he has twenty followers,

919
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: and I don't really particularly remember him from anything. And

920
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: then I find out that he was all in Bachelor

921
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: and Paradise this season. Yeah, whoops, that Blake, the Blake

922
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: who went out with Tia. That's what I thought. Yeah,

923
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: and he was on Claire's season originally. Um. And the

924
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: two of them hung out and they were looking kind

925
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: of cozy. Um. They Claire also said something on her

926
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Instagram about how like she went somewhere for business wherever

927
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: they were hanging out, which was Indiana. Said one for

928
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: business left with the most unexpected, remarkable memories. Indie, you

929
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: were truly beautiful and exactly what my soul needed. I'm

930
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: telling you everybody should go Indiana to find love. It

931
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: is the place my stopping grounds. Actually, don't forget that. Yeah.

932
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: And then somebody was asking about this rumored something something,

933
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: and Claire said Blake is the sweetest person. He truly is,

934
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: So let's see what develops from there. It could be

935
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: really awesome. Love these stories. Yeah, we'll watch this as

936
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: we go. Well, kind of turning the page a little

937
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: bit to a whole new chapter. Bachelor in Paradise favorites

938
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: uh Riley and Marissa. Well, this is the headline. Fans

939
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: think they've called it quits. This according to screen Ran, Yeah,

940
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: we also got to text about this from our producer

941
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: this week. So immediately I went over to Marissa's Instagram,

942
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: in which I remember her, like from the previous night

943
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: saying something like she just wanted to like get dolled

944
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: up for no reason. And I was like, oh, now

945
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: it makes even more sense because now she wants to

946
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: look really hot for him on Instagram. Um, the rumor

947
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: is that they have maybe broken up sometime since Christmas

948
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: till now because they were hanging They were hanging out,

949
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: they spent Christmas together. Um, Riley has those pictures up

950
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: on his Instagram. Marissa no longer has those pictures up

951
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram. The last pictures of her and Riley together

952
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: are from October on her Instagram. So I do feel

953
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: like we can read into this a little bit. Um

954
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: doesn't sound good. It doesn't and that was one of

955
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: our favorite couples coming out of Paradise. So we hope

956
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: they can rekindle or remind or if they might be

957
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: still together and just being quiet for now. But that's

958
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: the rumor spreading. Well another rumor, uh Bachelor Nations, Blakeman

959
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: and Love his Blinds Janina Gibelly. I hope I said

960
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: that right? Are dating this according to E as well? Hey,

961
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: can we accord it to Ben Higgins as well? Because

962
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: you're pretty close to Blake. Can you talk to him

963
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: about this? I am off the record. Come on, I'm

964
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: off the record. Well you did you know that he

965
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: was dating someone? I knew he was on a reality show? Uh,

966
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: what do you mean he's on another reality show? Yeah?

967
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew there was breaking breaking news, so

968
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: um yeah, I knew that, but I did not know

969
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: how it turned out. And so it seems like it's

970
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: turned out very well for him. Oh so they meet

971
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: on this reality show. I don't know. You tell me

972
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: what's the headline. The headline is just that they're dating,

973
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: not that the heavilions that they're dating, and that like

974
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: possibly like, I don't know that they It says they're

975
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: very new and they aren't rushing into anything. Blake says

976
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: that she's really fun and down to earth. Um. Blake

977
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: posted a picture of himself on New Year's Eve at

978
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: the Mile High Spirits uh and uh. Apparently she also

979
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: uploaded a picture of herself standing in front of some

980
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: very similar looking barrels in the bar on Instagram. So

981
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: it looks that they spent New Year's Eve together. Oh.

982
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Gianna even posted repeat after me, I'm about to walk

983
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: into the best year of my life and then the person.

984
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: The source says that they spent New Year's Year together

985
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: and they have been getting to know each other. They

986
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: have a long common due to their experiences on reality TV.

987
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: I didn't watch all of his blind I'll be honest,

988
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: but from what I did watch of it, I thought

989
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: that Gianna was super sweet, really cute. I like this coupling,

990
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: and now with Ben's little tidbits, I'm wondering if they

991
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: met some on some sort of reality show. Jeez, I'm

992
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: ruining everything today. Um, It's okay, but yes, I mean,

993
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: if they if they've got something going, Blake is a buddy.

994
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: I like to see him happy. In fact, I think

995
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: the dog that Jessica and aer Um looking adopting is

996
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: living in Blake's house with a lease right now. Um,

997
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: so could possibly be a thing. Maybe I'll ask the puppy, Hey, hey, pup,

998
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: what have you seen? What have you seen? What have

999
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: you seen? Maybe maybe some maybe some things he doesn't

1000
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Yeah, he's too young to see

1001
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: those things. Too young. Well, this is a big headline, um,

1002
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: because I think it really speaks to Clayton and probably

1003
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: why I believe he will go down as a good bachelor,

1004
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: if not a bachelor, if not one of the favorite batchelers.

1005
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty self aware. I think he understands

1006
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: um criticism and where it comes from. Well, well, here's

1007
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: the headline. Clayton Eckered responds to Nick's Nick File questioning

1008
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: him being chosen as the bachelor. The statement Clayton makes

1009
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: is I don't harbor any resentment toward him. There's an

1010
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: interesting quote in here. Actually I'd love for you to read,

1011
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: because I really do you think it speaks to who

1012
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Clayton is. All right, So this is what he said

1013
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: in reference to you know, Nick not thinking initially that

1014
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: he was the best choice because you know, Nick kind

1015
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: of backtracked after seeing the first episode. Uh, he goes,

1016
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: this is what Clayton said. I thought there were points

1017
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: where my personality did come through. I thought the date

1018
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: with Michelle and all that actually went really well. I

1019
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: thought it showed my goofy side. It showed my dance moves,

1020
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: which is why I said it's my resolution this year,

1021
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: I want to get better at them. Um. But it

1022
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: showed this playful side of me. Um. Then he said,

1023
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: there's a little snippet. I guess where it was, just

1024
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: a little snippet per se. I guess. I don't know

1025
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: how much screen time I had, maybe ten twenty minutes,

1026
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was, It wasn't much. But when Nick made

1027
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: the comment about him being an unconventional pick, he this

1028
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: is what Clayton thought. He said, Okay, I can see

1029
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. But but then again, um, you're

1030
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of time to see me now on

1031
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: my season going forward. Um. He also said that if

1032
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: he still feels that way, Nick still feels this way

1033
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: towards the end of it, then then fair sure, Um,

1034
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: we'll have a conversation at that point. I'll talk to him.

1035
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: You know, what is it that you don't get? But

1036
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: for right now, I do understand. I don't harbor any

1037
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: resentment for somebody that makes a comment like that. I

1038
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: think it's his platform. He kind of speculates on all

1039
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: these things. He doesn't know a thing about me. Yeah, hey, um,

1040
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, Nick's a podcast toast. You can get paid

1041
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: having opinions. And I think a lot of people's opinions

1042
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: were who next is Clayton guy? But as Clayton said,

1043
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: we'll get to know him more as the season goes on.

1044
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: Let's hold her judgment, even though even here at the

1045
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts were like, how in the world that

1046
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: they choose this dude? He wasn't even shown, But after

1047
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: two episodes, we're going okay, makes a little more sense.

1048
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Big headline here. Former bachelortte Andy Dorfman's new boyfriend revealed

1049
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: inside their fairy tale romance. This according to fairy Tale Romance.

1050
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: At first on Instagram, she was keeping his face like

1051
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of concealed if you noticed. But now we know

1052
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: who he is. His name is Lane Heart, and he

1053
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: is a man from her past. They met each other

1054
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 1: years ago during college through a mutual friend. Um who

1055
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: the mutual friend, went to school with Blaine in South Carolina.

1056
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: They both happened to be in Italy at the same

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Speaker 1: time this past summer and reconnected after fifteen years and

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Speaker 1: they've been together ever since. Wow, that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Um and the inside source tells e that this is

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Speaker 1: the fairy tale that Andy has always dreamed of. She's

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Speaker 1: never been happier before in her life. Wow. What a headline. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's all we have for today. What an amazing episode.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Connor Saley for coming on and breaking

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Speaker 1: down this week's episode with us. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: have him for an in depth episode dig into who

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Speaker 1: he is as a person here uh and that will

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Speaker 1: be posted very very soon, But until then, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I've been in, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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