1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Fred Show asking good morning, welcome to the show. How 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: are you good for you doing great? Man? What's going 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: on with this woman Anastasia? We got to hear how 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: you met, about any dates you've been on, and then 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of where things are now and how we can 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: help you. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I met her on this app, like a 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: dating app. 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm vague vaguely familiar with those. Yeah, I've been 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: been known to, you know, frequent but anyway, yeah, okay, 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: so on an app you met her? Then what? 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to a like a coffee place and 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: then we got. 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Some food later. The date was pretty nice. I was 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: really into her. I thought it went well. 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: I thought she had a good time too, because we 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: good good night and goodbye. 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: But now she's ghosting me, so I don't know why. Okay, 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: all right, well that's where we come in. Of course, 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna call Anastasia, get her on the phone if 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: we can. We're gonna ask these questions on your behalf. 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: And the hope is always is that we can straighten 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: us out and set you up on another date. And yeah, Ashton, 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: let's call Anastasia. This is the woe. When you met 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: on one of the apps, she went on a nice 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: coffee date. You thought everything went really well. You're a 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: little confused, though, because you've reached out to her to 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: plan another date and she has not responded to you 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: at all, and you want to know why. Yep, sounds right. Okay, 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: well let's call her now. Good luck. He Hi, is 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: this Anastasia? 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: It is Hi. 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Fred Show, the morning radio show. The whole crew is here, 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and I do have to tell you that we are 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: on the radio right now and I would need you 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: our permission to continue with the call. Can which have 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: for just a second, would you mind? 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: I guess I have time. What's up? 41 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf of 42 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: a dude named Ashton and he says he met you 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: on a dating app and you, guys, went on a 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: coffee date recently. Do you remember him? 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember, And I'm really be honest, I'm not 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: sure I'm actually comfortable being on the radio talking about 47 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: this anymore. 48 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh well, you can hang up any time, I mean, 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: if you want to, but we'd love to get the 50 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: story because he reached out to us, and he says 51 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: that he thought the date went really well and he 52 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: liked you, except he is confused, he says, because he 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: can't get a hold of you. So I mean, you 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: can tell us and then we'll tell him, and then 55 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing can be over. I guess yeah. 56 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean, I guess you're right. It's very 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: this is very awkward, but I guess nothing illegal happen. 58 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: So sure. 59 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ashton and I met on We met on Bumble 60 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: and we were like flirting and stuff, and. 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: He asked me out for coffee and at the time 62 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: he said it's because oh, I'm taking a break. 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: From drinking, right okay, which. 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Is no, that's like, no problem. I don't need to 65 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: go out and drink. 66 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask that question too about the coffee, 67 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: like does he not drink or was he not drinking 68 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: or you know who knows? Yeah, but anyway, so he's 69 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: taking a break. 70 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what he told me, And yeah, 71 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: that's great. I support that, so totally fine. We go, 72 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: we had food, we got the coffee, we walked to 73 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: my car, and he gave me a kiss before saying 74 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: goodbye and everything was fine, but I don't know, my 75 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: sixth cents kind of went off and things took a turn. Basically, 76 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I know, it's weird that I did some creeping on 77 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: him on social and I found his Facebook with his photo, 78 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: but it said he was much younger than what he 79 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: told me. 80 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how much younger, Like you're going to tail 81 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: younger or you don't know. 82 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: But I have some friends who are cops and I 83 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: reached out to them and they told me that he's twenty. 84 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh. Also we all wow, so we like did a 85 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: background check on the guy. Okay, so he's twenty. I 86 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: mean he's twenty years old. And how old are you? 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm thirty four? 88 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay? And how old did he tell you he was? 89 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: He didn't exactly say, And I guess that's kind of 90 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: like what I'm saying, but I mean. 91 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: The whole like, oh, I'm taking a break from drinking. 92 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Now on your break actually because yeah, legal right, he 93 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: can't he can't physically buy a drink, Okay, wow. 94 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: I And my bumble profile says that my age range 95 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: is thirty to fifty, so it means in order for 96 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: us to have matched up on bumble. 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: He had to have lied. 98 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Oh so he consciously set his age older. Okay, now 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: this isn't against the law. He's over eighteen. He's an ansult. 100 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you did anything wrong. But 101 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: I can also. 102 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: Understand that you're like, I kissed the boy. 103 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you know I could have babysat this kid. Yeah, 104 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean you were, you were fourteen years old, you 105 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: were you know, a woman, presumably when he was born. 106 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Let me bring it. I forgot to mention that Ashton 107 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: is here, and I'm very forgetful, and I apologize for that. Ashton, 108 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm twenty, okay, And and you're 109 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: purporting to be much older than that to match with 110 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: older women, which I must say is a genius move. Yes, 111 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: that's a that's a pro that's a pro level move. 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, be honest. It's very very creative. And 113 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: if you know you you were indeed taking a break 114 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: from drinking because you can't. So there's But also, if 115 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I had to do over again when I was twenty, 116 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: I would have been dating much older women to In fact, 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: if you've been listening for a while, you know I 118 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: did have a transformational story when I was around twenty 119 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: one and I went out with someone significantly older. Now, 120 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I did not lie about my she knew. If anything, 121 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I think she lied about hers among other things. But anyway, 122 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: that was a transformational experience for me, and I can 123 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: see why you might want to do this. But what 124 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: were you going to do when you eventually had to 125 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: tell her how old you were? 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, I didn't really think that far ahead obviously, 127 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: but shocking I would have. I would have I would 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: have been honest about it, and hopefully that they would sios. 129 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Did mom forget to put your cell phone bill? I mean, 130 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: what's what's going on here? I give your breaking up? 131 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: But Anastasia, so you kiss, you kiss a twenty year 132 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: old you're thirty four? I mean I can see wrong 133 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: with that age. 134 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: No, you. 135 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: When someone's twenty, I think there's nothing wrong with it. 136 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: I think that I think that the person needs to 137 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: not pretend to be ten plus years older. I think 138 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: it's obviously very dishonest. That's the line for me, right, 139 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: And so I don't think there's anything you could go 140 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: out with a much younger man if you chose to, 141 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: and he can go out with a much older woman 142 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: if he chooses to. But I think it's the dishonesty. 143 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: It's the lack of transparency that's the issue here. 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, that's the reason he'll never see me again. 145 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: But like I mean, to each their own. 146 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: I'm not bashing people who date people that are much 147 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: younger than them. But I was pretty upfront that it's 148 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: not for me, and then he like circumvented the system 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: so that he could slip through the cracks. 150 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: Anyway, you know, never again. 151 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: So it was it was intentionally, it was manipulative, It 152 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: was intentionally dishonest because he knew, he knows that most 153 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: thirty four year old women are not going to go 154 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: out with a twenty year old man. Most I wouldn't 155 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: say all, but most, And so you would never have 156 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: accepted a day with him if you had known that 157 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: he was twenty. 158 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: No, I mean, there'd be no point. 159 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: We're not even on the same playing field like mentally, 160 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: life wise. 161 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that's not a diss 162 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: that's just the facts exactly. Ashton. How often has this 163 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: worked for you and do you ever get caught? Well, 164 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: it was really my first time. No, yeah, yeah, I 165 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: don't know, but hey, I will say the whole taket 166 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: a break from drinking, which it's multifascinating because not only 167 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: is it it's it's smooth, but it's highly dishonest, Like 168 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, Like you know that you're 169 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: lying to these women. You're not being deceptive, you're being dishonest. 170 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. 171 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm glad I took this call now because I hope 172 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: you learned a lesson today, Ashton. 173 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: It's giving, like teacher and students. Maybe maybe this is 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: what he's into actually, like, yeah. 175 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: It was wrong. 176 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: You're going You're going to bet without dinner to night. 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: Answer and I'll tell you what. Boy, Yeah, you've been, 178 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: you've been, You've been a naughty Okay, wait a minute here, 179 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: this is turning into okay anyway, so anastage. I mean, 180 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: I have to ask the question. It's my job. I 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: know the answer. Would you like to go out with 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: him again? We'll pay for it, perhaps with nice chuck 183 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: e cheese or something. I don't know. Oh my god, 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: a McDonald's with a place. I know if I kiss 185 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: a twenty year old, I would be like I would 186 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: feel like I guess a child. Yeah, I mean, let's 187 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: just be clear. He obviously looked old enough to her, 188 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: and he obviously she was obviously into it. There's nothing 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: wrong with this, It's just it's a lie. She didn't 190 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: This is not illegal. It's a lie that I would 191 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: have an issue with, and it would also make me 192 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: wonder what else are you not telling me? How in 193 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: what other ways you being deceptive? But I mean, you 194 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: didn't let me ask you this anastagia. You couldn't tell 195 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: that he was fourteen years younger. 196 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't going to say it, but maybe 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: work on your skincare regimen, Ashton, Like you pulled it off, 198 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: but it's not a good thing. 199 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh wait, so now okay, so now you kiss the 200 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: pimply kid like I don't know, I'm I'm trying to 201 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: give you the benefit of doubt here, and then you 202 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: look like a very mature twenty year old and that's 203 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: how they say had he had a beard? So like 204 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: that helps too. 205 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: I've seen sixteen year olds with a full beard and 206 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: they can they can pull it off. 207 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't bring a full beard at twenty. So 208 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, he says, well ahead of me. I guess 209 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: I still can't all right? Look, so no for a 210 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: second date, Ashton. Look, I bet you there are people 211 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: who would be into it if you just told the truth. 212 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Maybe not as many as you'd like, but you're good. 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: The problem with these kind of lies is eventually you're 214 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: going to have to tell the truth and then you 215 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: have a problem. So why not just tell the truth 216 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: from the beginning. 217 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll definitely start doing that more. 218 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I guess he should start doing that more. Yeah, I 219 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: would recommend it. Okay, I'm sorry this happened to you. 220 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Thank you for answering Ashton tell 221 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the truth. Good luck to you as well. Thanks guys, 222 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: love for your show.