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Speaker 2: Indy for the last seventy two hours. We have seen

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Speaker 2: great meals and all of those things, but just your

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Speaker 2: highlight people, You run into things, you've heard, things that

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Speaker 2: got you excited going forward.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's reunion week. Anyone who ever worked with, anyone,

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Speaker 3: you ever went to school with, anyone you've ever raised

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Speaker 3: a glass with. Everyone is here. This is the football Convention.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl has a lot of corporate elements and

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Speaker 3: obviously the fans, but this is this is the annual reset.

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Speaker 3: If you will try to make sense of what happened

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Speaker 3: and try to look forward to what's going to happen,

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Speaker 3: because free agency two weeks from now will be sitting

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Speaker 3: here breaking down what the Browns did in the first

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Speaker 3: week of free agency. Trade today we had a former

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Speaker 3: first round pick for a second rap pick, Jermaine Johnson

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Speaker 3: for to Andandre Sweat, so Robert Salad getting one of

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Speaker 3: his first round picks. Like you have all these moving pieces,

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Speaker 3: and I know you know, Coach Monk was sitting here

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Speaker 3: a couple of days ago laughing about all the conversations

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Speaker 3: that go on here.

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Speaker 4: That's stuff I believe that was edited out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well there are many conversations here, conversations and

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Speaker 3: people are trying information gathering. Yeah, people are trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out where the quarterbacks are gonna go, where Tyler's

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Speaker 3: gonna go, where Rogers is gonna go, where Cousins is

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Speaker 3: gonna go, where Malik Willis is gonna go, where's the

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Speaker 3: big surprising I'll give you one. So my guy, Charles Robinson,

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Speaker 3: I do a show on Yahoo, right, and I'm here

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Speaker 3: doing that as well. Charles Robinson, great reporter. We're doing

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Speaker 3: the show. Yesterday met Charles and Joy Jorey Epstein, and

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Speaker 3: I said, and they didn't know this was coming. I go,

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Speaker 3: all right, what's the wildest trade we could see? Because

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Speaker 3: there's always one of those deals where you'll read the

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Speaker 3: long form piece later that says, well, these two general

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Speaker 3: managers didn't want to be seen, so they went to

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Speaker 3: at Starbucks, and that's where they got this steal done.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be one of those, because there is every year. Yep,

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Speaker 3: what is it going to be? And Charles Robinson is like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, am I gotta say this. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what We're live? And he goes, I've had three different

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Speaker 3: teams tell me that they are absolutely convinced that Joe

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Speaker 3: got my attention, and he goes, Now, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: to trade him. But then he absolutely wants out. And

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Speaker 3: I said, of course he wants And I said, Mike

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Speaker 3: on earth he would ever trade him. He would tell

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Speaker 3: him to go sit on Carson Palmer's couch in Orange County,

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Speaker 3: California and have a good life, like bye. There's no way.

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Speaker 3: He would never do it.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly why he wants out, because he is

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Speaker 3: I want to be clear, I'm looking at the camera.

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Speaker 3: I am not reporting the Joe wants out. I'm saying

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Speaker 3: that on my show on Yahoo yesterday. That's what Charles

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Speaker 3: Robinson said, well, let me tell you this. Said said

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Speaker 3: I really think that. And he's like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you another thing that I don't think, but

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Speaker 4: A immediate yes confirmation.

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Speaker 2: We can't go, folks, I'm being serious, and you are

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Speaker 2: so gracious with everybody. In fact, it led to us

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Speaker 2: losing you in Prime forty seven, like the hangover, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're walking down the streets, were like.

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Speaker 4: Where's the stilly?

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Speaker 3: I look at it this way. I went to use

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we reconnected that day, which was

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Speaker 2: a wonderful thing. But lacted, Yeah, it made a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense to us, because when we walk somewhere with you,

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Speaker 2: we got two seconds, Y're pulled in one hundred. Everybody

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Speaker 2: everybody loves Andrew Forget, everybody loves Raymond.

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Speaker 4: Raymond's old news.

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Speaker 3: I've just I've been coming here a long time. As

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Speaker 3: of you. That's right. You know a lot of people

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Speaker 3: you're more popular. You've worked that, You've worked at other networks.

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Speaker 3: You've been the Fantasy Maven.

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Speaker 4: People think I'm the GM of the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: We had that conversation as well, so our friend Steve

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Speaker 3: how about that news yesterday Steve Paulozolo, formerly a PFF

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Speaker 3: got a funny story for you. So last year, two

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Speaker 3: years ago, whatever it was. I'm I'm following John spy Tech.

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Speaker 3: I see him in front of me, and I see him.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, oh, he's in a conversation. I'm

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Speaker 3: Tech's having a conversation and I'm lingering back and then

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Speaker 3: not John spy Tech and it's your guy Nathan. I went, oh,

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Speaker 3: my god, that's pretty funny. Long and behold you then

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Speaker 3: scripted video. At that moment, Yeah, you know, the aforementioned

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, I've now passed Pelzel it

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Speaker 2: Stephen the halls like five times, and every time we

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Speaker 2: you're not the only person that's ever said that to me,

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Speaker 2: So I'll take it. So that bigot, yeah he's six seven,

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Speaker 2: he's I know, Steve is spy Tech at six four

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Speaker 3: Oh are you trying to say to John spy Tech,

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Speaker 3: measure up to your whole? That's right.

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Speaker 2: See well, I think the people when you get to

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Speaker 2: a certain level, like the Gibbe, me and Palzel, we

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Speaker 2: got to stick together. We got to look out for

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Speaker 2: each other. So I don't know how big, I don't

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Speaker 2: that GM of the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Apparently.

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Speaker 3: I saw him this morning and he said, Hey, I

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Speaker 3: just followed Nathan on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: We now follow each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we brought happy people to get people. That's

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Speaker 2: that's what a mayor does. He brings the community together.

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Speaker 2: He brings community together. So I like that Borough story.

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Speaker 2: I think that would throw the league into absolute chaos

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Speaker 2: if that, let's say that is the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 2: He's never gonna say it. We're gonna live in a

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Speaker 2: a situation, how many teams would not make the call?

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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills, Chargers.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers, you would have to think the Ravens, but

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Speaker 3: would never get dealt in division. Never, it will never happen.

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Speaker 3: He's not getting dealt. I mean, this is a non

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Speaker 3: h this is your lead. I don't know, I mean it, okay, Like,

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Speaker 3: for example, the Ravens have a seventy million dollar hammer

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Speaker 2: Out, isn't Dak two years into that deal? Dak is

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Speaker 2: make it work. My point is, I think there are

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Speaker 2: Alan and Herbert were the ones. We're the only ones

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Speaker 2: Drake May because he's like a rookie dealer. Sure just

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Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl. I mean, that's another interesting

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Speaker 2: story around here. The Patriots, what are they going to do?

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Speaker 2: Is Tefon Diggs out next week? Maybe is AJ Brown

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Speaker 3: The Patriots next a year from today, we're going to

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Speaker 3: they give Drake May to extend. Now, they don't have

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Speaker 3: mentality because we only have our guy in a working

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Speaker 3: look at it is it's going to be cash out

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Speaker 3: after year three or year four, you spread that hit out,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to totally cripple you. But the idea

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Speaker 3: of winning under a key contract is a very significant thing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, what do they do? I don't know who's

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Speaker 3: the last team that won this year? I'm just this

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Speaker 3: you mentioned that. It popped out into my head. Who's

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Speaker 3: the last team that actually won with their quarterback on

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Speaker 3: the rookie contract?

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Speaker 4: Won the Super Bowl? So it wouldn't have been this year.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles in with Burrow at the end, but they

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Speaker 3: didn't win.

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Speaker 4: They didn't win. They got there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they would tell you that they're a bad

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Speaker 3: pi away from winning, but I think it was the

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen their asterisk, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a really good question. I have

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Speaker 3: to look that up. And or are you don't have

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Speaker 3: to pay the quarterback after year three? The Dolphins chose

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Speaker 3: right decision. Probably they could have waited another year and

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Speaker 3: it that way. But that's the way the league is structured.

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Speaker 2: No, and it allows you to surround that said quarterback

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right right, and we will be back coming

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Speaker 6: those are the ones that for me stick with it.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple that I mean, I don't want to

433
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 6: call out any no, no, of course, there's a couple of guys.

434
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 6: There's one specifically that I remember. I still can see

435
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 6: it because he was his There was just like calm

436
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 6: intensity that he brought in our session for those eighteen

437
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 6: twenty minutes and it was like, Oh, this dude's real

438
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 6: and you knew he was going to go on him

439
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 6: be successful. Yeah, and I you would watch him play,

440
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 6: but that it sort of just like puts icing on

441
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 6: the cake when you meet him. It's like, one, I

442
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 6: get it now, I get why he is the way

443
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 6: he is, But also like there's all and you can't

444
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 6: say never, but there's no way this guy won't be

445
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 6: successful based on you know, and then you know there's

446
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 6: statistics and data around interviews and yeah, why you don't

447
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 6: put too much weight on him and et cetera. And

448
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 6: I understand that, But then there's some that are so good.

449
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 6: It was like this is where.

450
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, because you said with three hundred and

451
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 2: fifty eight guys that you went through.

452
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 6: Get the total number this week who's here, but it's

453
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 6: like three hundred plus.

454
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: Called three hundred plus.

455
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: Then you go down to and you're going to have

456
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: on our actual board is going to be a very

457
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: small subset of that, which is that people don't really

458
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: understand right now. You probably cut it in half, cut

459
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Speaker 2: in half, and then probably cut in.

460
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Speaker 6: Half credit forty percent. Yeah, and then from there, yeah,

461
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 6: you get medical information, you get other information.

462
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 4: So and you come here, you guys talk to forty guys.

463
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Speaker 2: But I would imagine that most years, which is so

464
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: cool about the NFL. I remember Alex Right for example,

465
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: it felt like we left Indianapolis or like Alex Wright's

466
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: gonna be a Cleveland Brown. And then he was, yeah,

467
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: and that's pretty cool.

468
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. There's a couple of those, you know

469
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 6: where we all have our favorites.

470
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, and you just lock you lock in, and

471
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: it's like we got to find a way to get that.

472
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, you obviously want to do it in

473
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 6: a way that didn't put you in a bad situation

474
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 6: for value from a resource standpoint, but it just like

475
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 6: we this dude's a brown to your point like this

476
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 6: dude's a Brown, like he's one of ours, like he fits.

477
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 6: So those those are the again, those are the easy ones. Yeah,

478
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 6: there's a lot of times where you're trying to figure

479
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 6: it out. You know, you have different pieces of information

480
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Speaker 6: from the school, from high school, from college, from your scouts,

481
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 6: first interaction, maybe at all Star games. There's still guys

482
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Speaker 6: you're you're just trying to figure them out, you know

483
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 6: what I mean. But then there's a few where it's

484
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 6: like that's a Brown.

485
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 4: Only.

486
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: The other metric that's changed here is in a lot

487
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: of these cases, guys have played for at least two teams,

488
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 5: sometimes three. Yeah you said three or four year guys.

489
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: I mean there's six year guys.

490
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

491
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 5: So there's all of these other variables to measure over

492
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 5: the last three or four years. Because the college game

493
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: has changed so dramatically. So when you think about getting

494
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 5: to know ah guy, I wonder if these are more

495
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 5: important than ever now because for some of these guys

496
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 5: they played for three coaches.

497
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

498
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Speaker 6: The plus aside of that is you have many more

499
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 6: touch points that are not just one place. And in

500
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 6: some of those situations where you did have players stay

501
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 6: it was extremes, right, Either everyone loved them, yeah, even

502
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 6: if there was not an unbiased perspective on them, or

503
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 6: you know, maybe his early career didn't play out as

504
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 6: well and he kind of couldn't get past that first

505
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 6: impression that he made. Now you get the like, you

506
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 6: get a nice blend of, Hey, this dude's been at

507
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 6: three different schools, and there's three different perspective and honestly

508
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 6: it's all they're all probably they all piece it together.

509
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 6: You have the early life, early kid version. You have

510
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 6: the you know, the second place he went where he

511
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 6: started to figure it out and flourish, and then the

512
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 6: last school where they probably got the benefit of all

513
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 6: the development that he had, or the other schools, and

514
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 6: so you just get the story line written for you

515
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 6: in a different way than them staying at one school.

516
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 6: So it does it can be challenging because now you're

517
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 6: trying to like, you know, sift through it, connect the

518
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 6: dots at different places where it used to be a

519
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 6: one stop shot.

520
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Is there a benefit to understanding, okay, how this person

521
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: comes into a new locker room. Let's say somebody goes

522
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: three schools three years, right, and they keep kind of

523
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: going up in stature, how they come in a new

524
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: locker room, how they're able to adjust to a new scheme,

525
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: because likelihood they're coming in the NFL, you're not gonna

526
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: be running the scheme they were at. But on the

527
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: flip side, you don't get to see somebody grow in

528
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: a scheme where okay, now I can play fast, I've

529
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: got it.

530
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking you talk about unheartedly.

531
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: You know, the leap from year one to year two

532
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: is typically you want it to be pretty immense, and

533
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: so these guys aren't gaining that. I would imagine that

534
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: really kind of you have to do probably more projecting

535
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: on guys that go boom boom boom in some sense

536
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: of what it looks like now. Their tape may just

537
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: be that good and everybody may just love them and

538
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: that makes it easy. But i'd imagine that's a little

539
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: bit different because you don't really get to see these

540
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: guys just stay in one place, grow, get comfortable, and

541
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: then right blossom.

542
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 6: So there's to the cool part about is the guys

543
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 6: are typically transferring or moving now for a couple of

544
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 6: reasons that are similar to what would happen in NFL.

545
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 6: So it's you know, niou related. So it's a financial decision,

546
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 6: it's a playtime decision, and it could be a combination

547
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 6: of this, or it's just like, hey, the relationship with

548
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 6: the university, we'll call it, is just in a place

549
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 6: where they feel like they just separate, right, And so

550
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 6: you're getting a good rep at that situation to see

551
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 6: how he handles it. It's like, Okay, hey, you know

552
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 6: you had said player at you know, a group of

553
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 6: five who played really well, transfers to a power four,

554
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 6: gets a significant nil, and also has much more significant expectations.

555
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Put on them.

556
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 6: How does he handle that? How does he walk into it?

557
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: How does he endear himself to new teammates as a leader,

558
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 6: as a guy who's making probably like being one of

559
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 6: the highest compensated players on the team. So you're getting

560
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 6: a good rep of like, hey, it's the same thing

561
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 6: if you sign him as a free agency agent. You

562
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 6: know he's been with a different club for a few years.

563
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 6: You're going to make a significant investment. How does he

564
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: integrate himself into the locker room?

565
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: What type of guy is he? What type of leader?

566
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 6: How does he handle his resources that he's been given?

567
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: So in that way, it's it's like quinch on right

568
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: on last year going to Ohio State, high profile, big

569
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: money wins the national championship.

570
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 6: And we had, you know, we had a good sense

571
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 6: of how he would integrate into the league because of

572
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 6: that experience. You know, because like like I said, Ole

573
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: Miss played out a certain way. He wants to go

574
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: to Ohio State. You know, it's it's a change probably

575
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 6: more powerful to power four, but it's a chain in scenery.

576
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 6: You're going from the SEC to the big ten. He's

577
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 6: playing a different he's playing in a different offense. He's

578
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 6: also playing with another pretty good player in his room. Yep,

579
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 6: So just how does how did he deal with all that?

580
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: We thought he handled it really really well. You know

581
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 6: because a guy who's as competitive as he is, he

582
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 6: could have probably been like, hey, I want more touches,

583
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: you know, like I do. I like Trayvon, but but

584
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 6: I came here want But it's been great, you know,

585
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: like he was able to show that he could, you know,

586
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 6: be a good teammate but also be a big contributor

587
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 6: to to a good team.

588
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny as as you're talking about all

589
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: of that, it hits you because I obviously talk a

590
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 5: lot about college football. And one thing that jumps out

591
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: as you were going through all that is college football's

592
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: problems are the NFL's benefit because what you just described

593
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 5: is we now know how is he going to spawn

594
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: of money? How is he going to paratroop into a

595
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 5: new situation where he doesn't know anybody? How quickly can

596
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 5: he learn a new scheme? You're now getting that, yeah,

597
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: from your minor league system.

598
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

599
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: And while the minor league system, people in that world

600
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 5: were like, this is chaos, we got to change everything.

601
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: The reality is agency, it's pure free agency every year.

602
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: But the reality is for the NFL, now it's several

603
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: more data points that we have on what makes this

604
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: guy tick. You don't have to have that conversation for

605
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys, like how's he going to

606
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 5: handle that first big contract? They've already got it, already

607
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: got Yes, they already are handling how do you handle money?

608
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: We know he's already got it. He's already got that.

609
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: Many and many of the young men in college are starting,

610
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: you know, they're creating their own team.

611
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

612
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: You know, so you an agent, you understand who's who's

613
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: helping influence certain decisions? How are they making decisions. To

614
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 6: your point, you know, they're getting seven seven figure deals

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: in college.

616
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: We don't.

617
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 6: That's that's something we no longer necessarily have to project.

618
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 6: And also, you know, you it's caused us to probably

619
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 6: change our onboarding. I'll call it process with the players

620
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: because you know, it's a different conversation totally. It's a

621
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 6: totally different conversation. They understand, you know, I would hope

622
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 6: like taxes already, you know, like they're setting aside of

623
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 6: money to the taxes, they're reading contracts for people they're employing.

624
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: So it's it.

625
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 6: To your point, it has benefited us in a lot

626
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: of ways that we probably don't even appreciate.

627
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just like, wow, that's incredible data points

628
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 5: that you have that you didn't five years ago.

629
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't have them.

630
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's again, I think we're happy we're not

631
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: dealing with that everything that I think that would be

632
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: really really difficult. But this is it is a good

633
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: thing here for people who want to understand, just could

634
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: talk about the board because right, I got any specific guys,

635
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: obviously you're here to do work and we have you know,

636
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: it's a nice to have two first round picks I'm

637
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: sure you're very excited about that three in the top

638
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: thirty nine. How do you guys kind of stack We

639
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: hear that term stack the board. How do you stack it?

640
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Is it purely anybody who's a blue? Is you only

641
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: blues can be above reds? Like, how do you guys

642
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: actually truly stack it? And then how do you filter

643
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: in the need components?

644
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so our stacking process goes from honestly September to April,

645
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: you know, and it's just phases. So the first phase

646
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: right now, like Max, our cause director, I mean, he's

647
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 6: done a great job with helping us get to this point.

648
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 6: Like our ear scouts are on the road. Everybody knows

649
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 6: this is out getting a bunch of information both trying

650
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Speaker 6: to assess the talent level but also the person and

651
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Speaker 6: the quality of the person. And they're like the foundation

652
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Speaker 6: of where we start. You know, they submit their grade,

653
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: we get a good feel for what general landscape of

654
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 6: the class looks like, and then we get in the

655
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Speaker 6: draft meetings and that's where we kind of say, okay,

656
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Speaker 6: we'll go position by position alphabetically and just you're trying

657
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 6: to tier talent level yep to start YEP. Of course,

658
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: you know, it's all opinions and educated opinions, but hey,

659
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 6: I think this guy is better for this reason. You know,

660
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Speaker 6: I think this guy belongs in this group of players

661
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 6: at his position, and you're blending probably at that point

662
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 6: talent and also probably where you're going to take them

663
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 6: or where you would need to take them, because you

664
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Speaker 6: also probably can get a sense of how the general

665
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 6: like NFL use them, and then that sets the tempo

666
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 6: for like the spring, you know, like we'll do that

667
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 6: at each position, and then now all these other touch

668
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 6: points really update so that they'll come here, we'll meet

669
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Speaker 6: many of the guys, you know, kind of it kind

670
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: of helps us coordinate. Okay, who do we want to

671
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 6: use these first round of forty five interviews to spend

672
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Speaker 6: time with. We'll get medical information from the combine, which

673
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 6: in terms of yep, you know, the players. We'll get

674
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Speaker 6: some testing based on the guys who participate, and then

675
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: from there it's like, okay, well we got thirty more

676
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 6: visits that we can use to spend either additional time

677
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 6: with someone we met with at the combine or use

678
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Speaker 6: it on other players.

679
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Speaker 4: Right, and there's a balance in the right.

680
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're trying to smoke screens, yeah real, and yeah.

681
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 6: Some team smokes. You're in a lot more than others.

682
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 6: But and then you get you know, your first dump

683
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 6: of true follow up on the medical and I think

684
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 6: from there that's when you start to factoring. Okay, and

685
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 6: then and then also our coaches have now placed in

686
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 6: reports by that time. Obviously our staff kind of got

687
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 6: put together a little bit later, so we push back

688
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: their deadline a little bit, but we'll eventually have all

689
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: their reports in and then start to have conversation on

690
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 6: like fit. Then you bring all that together, and then

691
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 6: that's like where you really tweak the board to say, hey,

692
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 6: I get it. You know, so and so player may

693
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: look good to the league in this way, but we

694
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 6: actually value this player more at the position because of

695
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: all these things. How we feel about is his health

696
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 6: or his you know, the risks from a from an

697
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 6: injury standpoint, how he fits into what we're doing, his

698
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: mental and physical and emotional and personal makeup, and we

699
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: bake all that in and that's kind of where you

700
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 6: to your point, we've gone from like really like that

701
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 6: one to seventy five.

702
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: It's like eighty or seventy you know.

703
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 6: Andrew probably has even more like distilled less probably in

704
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 6: the you know, I don't want to give his number away,

705
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 6: but a more distilled less. But from a board standpoint,

706
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 6: you can kind of know, like, Okay, there's probably seventy

707
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 6: guys we love to have on the team or at

708
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 6: least as options for to take, you know, based on

709
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: everything we need and want.

710
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: And with a new coach coming in, with Todd coming in,

711
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: good having him back, by the way, Huh, it's good.

712
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: Haven't Todd that not?

713
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: Just so much energy? Yeah, so much energy. Uh.

714
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 6: He just bounces around the hallways. You know, you just

715
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 6: you hear him before you see it. You know, there's

716
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 6: a lot of energy. So just definitely happy to have

717
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Speaker 6: him back.

718
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: Is that good?

719
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Speaker 2: When you guys now you're saying, okay, when you talked

720
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Speaker 2: about the coaches input, what are you looking for? You're

721
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: running this offense? We all know that we need to

722
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: score more points. Yeah, I mean it's a miss. It's

723
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Speaker 2: probably a huge misnumber that personnel and coaches and don't.

724
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Speaker 4: Of course they don't talk it off.

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Speaker 6: I gotta know any place, any organization where there's just

726
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 6: not communication on like hey, because you you know, from

727
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 6: from our standpoint, it's like, hey, we want to we

728
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 6: want to understand the best that we can what we

729
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: are going to do in all three phases, right, and

730
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 6: then what do we need to accomplish that generally and

731
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: baking in our own team, you know. So it's like, hey,

732
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 6: if we want to play a certain way, like you know,

733
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 6: it's like if you want to be the Warriors and

734
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: you know shoot threes, you need three more shooters, like

735
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 6: if you have yes, if you want to play bullyball,

736
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 6: like you got to go get people that can bully people.

737
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 6: So once you understand and we've done, you know, Todd's

738
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: done a good job, and we will continue to just

739
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 6: work through like the probably like the nuances of it.

740
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 6: But we understand what we need on all three in

741
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 6: all three phases. And so for us, it's like, how

742
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 6: do you fit Yeah, you know, our resources, our needs

743
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 6: into accomplishing that the best over the next cycles, right,

744
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 6: because you're not gonna do it all in one one year,

745
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: or you won't do it all in one area. Like

746
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 6: we have free agency coming up, we have the draft,

747
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 6: but then you have you know, guys will get cut

748
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: in you know or released in June that who didn't

749
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 6: get the you know, post June one cuts early, then

750
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 6: you have trades that happen during training camp, early parts

751
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 6: of the season, so that we're always.

752
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: Just building it, you know, and our little pieces here

753
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: and there.

754
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Speaker 6: So for us, it's just like, okay, what makes the

755
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 6: most sense in the draft, what makes the most sense

756
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 6: in free agency, and what could we sort of like

757
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 6: fill in with trades.

758
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: So we see you all the time. But it's great talking. Yeah,

759
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Speaker 4: appreciate you, Aboudy, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Great.

761
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: Glenn Cook, Thanks, Pale, appreciate it.

762
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: Always great talking with Glenn, having a good time here

763
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Speaker 2: in Indy. When we come back. One of the absolute

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 5: Well, quite frankly, it would not be the Combine without

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Speaker 5: a visit from our good buddy Charles Davis.

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Speaker 4: It is great to see you.

787
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Speaker 7: Great to see you, guys. Thanks a lotppreciate you doing

788
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 7: your charity work. Let me appreciate this is that God's

789
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: work that you have to do.

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Speaker 4: This is the joy.

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00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 7: Do you think of our coach, oh man, let me

792
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 7: tell you something. I've known his cousin, the head coach

793
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: and army since the nineteen eighties. Okay, we kind of

794
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 7: came up through the ranks together. Jeff was obviously an assistant.

795
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 7: I was an assistant coach back in the day, and

796
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: we stayed in touch forever forever. I followed Jeff all

797
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 7: the way through his journey Hawaii, Georgia Tech, Right Navy,

798
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 7: and then obviously, you know, goes to Georgia Southern as

799
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 7: a head coach and then to Army as a head coach.

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00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 7: So I've known him forever, but I'd never met Todd

801
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 7: until he became the offensive coordinator.

802
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: For the Ravens.

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 7: Knew it was, of course, you know, all of us

804
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 7: were in ball, so we kind of know who people are.

805
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: And I got a chance to talk with him a

806
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 7: little bit and what have you, and and you know,

807
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 7: when you're trying to get ready for a game, you

808
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 7: guys know what it's like. You talk to the coaches

809
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 7: and all you're going. You're very cognizant of trying to

810
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 7: be efficient with their time, your time. Don't want to

811
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 7: you know, the whole thing. I'm trying to be. And

812
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 7: he's very efficient, answer my questions very well, the whole thing.

813
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 7: But I just wanted to show him I'm just gonna

814
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 7: ask you questions that matter, and I'm gonna get you

815
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 7: out of here. So that the next time I call

816
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 7: you don't go, oh no, I'm not talking to him

817
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 7: and the whole deal. But everywhere he's been offense has

818
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 7: been good, offense has gotten better, players have responded to him.

819
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 7: I know that he You know, look, let's be honest

820
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: about it. When you go to a press conference, you

821
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 7: love to see that beautiful blow dry perfectly quaff coach

822
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 7: go up there and spout him by you know, aphorisms

823
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 7: that are gonna just be perfect and this that and everything.

824
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 7: I think I hope we finally learned that winning the

825
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 7: presser is in everything that it has to be. And

826
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that he lost the pressure. I'm just

827
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 7: saying he was probably not what people had in mind.

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Speaker 4: It's just authentic. Thank you.

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00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes you don't get what you're asking before you

830
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 7: get what you need what you need, That's right, Dan Campbell.

831
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 7: Any remember that presser and people going, oh god, what

832
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 7: have we got here? Caps Oh you think they turn

833
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 7: him down now?

834
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: Nope.

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Speaker 7: Remember Nick Siriani the first presser and it was the

836
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 7: worst because it was COVID and he had to do

837
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 7: it by zoom, and everybody said it was a disaster.

838
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 7: Guy's been two Super Bowls and one one of them.

839
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 7: I'm not I think we're all past that part.

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00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 7: This guy's a very good football coach. I think he's

842
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 7: exactly what this team needs.

843
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: When you think about his last six years prior to this,

844
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: three years at Georgia's, the OC gets the best out

845
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: of stets and Bennett.

846
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 7: Then go, that's in Bennett, Remember since Ben was a

847
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 7: walk on.

848
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stetson Bennett and then goes to Baltimore and you

849
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: look at Lamar wins the MVP in his first season

850
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: and then in the second season, I would argue has

851
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: maybe the greatest season of quarterbacks ever had, but non

852
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: NFL history doesn't win the MVPs. At that point, it

853
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: was like, all right, we got somebody else has to

854
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: win this. I think forty one hundred yards, forty one touchdowns,

855
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: four pictures.

856
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 7: Had a big year and gave it an alternative.

857
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: But he can work with different kinds of quarterbacks, and

858
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: at the end of day, the biggest question for the

859
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: clean runs, we can say, oh, yeah, we need to

860
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: address the offensive line. We need a dress wide receiver

861
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: play quarterback, and how do we maximize that quarterback? It

862
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: feels like he's somebody that has shown his ability to

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00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: do that in various stops.

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Speaker 7: He certainly has, and I think that the best way

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Speaker 7: to look at it, as far as I'm concerned, is

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Speaker 7: not really his coordinator days, but when he was the

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Speaker 7: head coach of Southern Miss turned it around winless. Okay,

868
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Speaker 7: Southern Miss. So if you can do that and maximize

869
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 7: I mean, getting kids Hatiesburg not easy. Okay, They've had

870
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Speaker 7: their pockets of success, the Brett fav years, the Reggie

871
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: Collier years, those sorts of things. But when he took over,

872
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 7: they hadn't been doing it. They were winless, and he

873
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 7: gets it going. I just think that he's a guy

874
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 7: who's going to be, for lack of a better cliche,

875
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 7: the no nonsense. This is how it needs to get done.

876
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 7: I don't think that he's necessarily a super yellow screamer,

877
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 7: but he knows what he knows, and he knows it

878
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 7: really well, and he knows that it works. And I

879
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 7: think he also understands personnel. How do I evaluate personnel

880
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 7: and what do I have and how do I maximize.

881
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: What they do well?

882
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 7: So, yes, can we get a quarterback? Okay, great, whoever

883
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 7: that quarterback is? How do I run my offense based

884
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 7: on that quarterback. That's what he did at Georgia. Okay,

885
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 7: when stets and Bennett ended up being the guy. And

886
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 7: it was interesting because I used to laugh all the

887
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: time because people always talk about stetson Ben it is that,

888
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 7: not this, and he's not that and what have you?

889
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 7: Forget the old cliche that he was a winner that

890
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 7: national title game against TCU. When I think it was

891
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: maybe the second series of the game, he takes off

892
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 7: on a run and blows people away and I've just

893
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 7: started laughing. I was like, yeah, it's always what he

894
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 7: can't do, except the fact that he just kicked your

895
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 7: butt again. And Todd munket know how to put him

896
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 7: in the right positions and maximize what they were doing.

897
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: That was the Nick Mullins era at Southern Mississippi.

898
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Speaker 7: Nig Mullins. I saw Nick Mullins at de Manning Passing Academy.

899
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Speaker 7: Do They used to all the quarterback come and they

900
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Speaker 7: have like three different throwing sessions, one of them being

901
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 7: like what they call an aired out session, right, and

902
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 7: it's kind of like a quarterback challenge.

903
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: Or what have you.

904
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 7: I remember walking away talking with another coach and that

905
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 7: give them. Some other misthrows it pretty well. Yeah, and

906
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 7: he's had more success in the NFL than a possible.

907
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still there.

908
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: Hey man, what you see the Seattle team win the

909
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and you see him do it with Sam

910
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: Darnold on fourth or fifteen or whatever it is. And

911
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: he's been great two years in a row. Obviously, they

912
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 5: got a massive weapon in Jackson Smith and Jick, but

913
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 5: elite defense for our where we are and we have

914
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 5: that elite defense, we got a lot of questions on offense.

915
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: Is that a second path for teams to get And

916
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: it's I'm not acting like it's easy, but for the

917
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: longest time it was if you don't have Mahomes, Brady Manning,

918
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 5: forget it and is there it? Did that show you?

919
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: And maybe Philly too is another example of that. Although

920
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: Jalen certainly has an elite skill set, But but is

921
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: there another path? And when you go about building an

922
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: NFL team, are there lessons that can be taken from that?

923
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 8: Oh?

924
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: There certainly are.

925
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 7: The one thing I keep coming back to is despite

926
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 7: the fact that it was his fifth team, Sam Donald

927
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 7: was still the number three.

928
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: Overall pick in the draft.

929
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 7: That part, so to me, it was kind of like

930
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 7: when when Baltimore Ravens won it and obviously their defense

931
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 7: led it. Okay, way back when with that great team

932
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 7: with Siragusa and ray Lewis and you know, Ed Reed

933
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 7: and all the rest of them. Oh wow, they did

934
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 7: it with Trent Dilfer's quarterback, Trent Diver's number twelve overall

935
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 7: pick in the draft. So it's not like, oh, you know,

936
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 7: when we're acting like these guys are total humpties. But

937
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 7: I know, I think I believe I'm on target with

938
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: your point, Right, Is there another path? That answer is yes,

939
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 7: if you can maximize everything else around them and give

940
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: the quarterback the opportunity to play as Sam Donald did.

941
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 7: Because the one thing I think we're kind of losing

942
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 7: in this in this conversation is this year at Seattle

943
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 7: he led the league and giveaways. Yeah, why could what?

944
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 7: But but why did they survive? Why did they flourish?

945
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 7: Their defense was so good that he could go ahead

946
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 7: and let it rip? Because yes, he led league giveaways.

947
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: He also led the league in a lot of big plays.

948
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 7: All right, that ball was getting down field right Jackson

949
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 7: Smith and Jigbu and crew getting Rashid Shaheed when he

950
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 7: came over. Tory Horton before he got hurt, was really

951
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 7: developing as a receiver. Plus a maximize the special teams.

952
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 7: I did a game against New Orleans. Me and my crew,

953
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: we did a game against them in New Orleans. They

954
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 7: blocked one for the thing dale Tory Horton returned to

955
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 7: another one for a touchdown. I mean, it's just you know,

956
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 7: every aspect of that team. So your point is well taken.

957
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 7: There are other paths, but your quarterback still better be talented.

958
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he's still there's another pass.

959
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 7: The absolutely is because Matthew Stafford set an NFL record

960
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 7: that day by throwing for three fifty three touchdowns no interceptions.

961
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 7: He's the first quarterback to lose a play right game

962
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 7: because the other guy did the exact same, the same thing. Yeah, now,

963
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 7: so that's where we are. I'm totally with you. There's

964
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 7: another path. I mean, Russell Wilson was the third round

965
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 7: guy and they won won a Super Bowl. Okay, Brady,

966
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 7: just take that and throw it out. That's that's such

967
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 7: a crazy anomaly, an outlier. You got to get back

968
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 7: to David Woodley be in the quarterback of the Dolphins

969
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 7: and get into the Super Bowl. You gotta get back

970
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 7: to people like that.

971
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, rock Perty, I mean, is another kind of total,

972
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: total outlier. Yep, when you look at this team and

973
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: the even piggybacking kind of off both said with Seahawks

974
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jig. But now we've had Jerry Judy's

975
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: been to a Pro Bowl. I really like Isaiah Bond.

976
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: He's got some juice to him. But I think we're

977
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: looking for that guy, you know, at number six. An opportunity.

978
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: You know the Browns, this is you'll enjoy this. Since

979
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: nineteen nine nine, the Browns picked two receivers in the

980
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: first round and they are Braylen Edwards Corey Coleman.

981
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: Wow, that's the end of the list.

982
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 7: Brayln Edwards had his moments.

983
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: A sixteen touchdown season will give him that.

984
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: I don't think Corey had any, No, unfortunately not unfortunately

985
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 7: for him. Yeah, this is very similar to last year

986
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 7: in Green Bay for the draft and they picked Matthew Golden.

987
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 7: Remember the place came on glued. They hadn't picked the

988
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 7: receiver in the first round. It's two thousand and two.

989
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 7: I okay, It's like it's like if the Cowboys pick

990
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 7: a safety in the first round. I don't think they've

991
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 7: done that. It's like two thousand and five. You know,

992
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 7: these are the sorts of things, but can you get them? Well,

993
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 7: this is a year right where you think they're there, guys? Right, Okay?

994
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 7: Was it Makaile Lemon? Right, Arnell Tate, Jordan Tyson? Who's

995
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: your flavor?

996
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: Look?

997
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 7: Cardell Tait's central casting all right, Rio State kid coming

998
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 7: to town, going to work, six', three great target for

999
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 7: whoever your quarterback, is all those things that come with.

1000
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 7: It As i'm diving into my, evaluation this is. Early

1001
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 7: tate's the cleanest one of the group for. ME i

1002
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 7: know other people Like, lemon some people Like tyson's, explosiveness

1003
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 7: But tyson's been dinged a. Lot there's a number of

1004
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 7: drops That i've seen in there that they would concern.

1005
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 7: Me although he's still a top level, Player tate's a

1006
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 7: guy to me is, ascending you. KNOW i feel like

1007
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 7: he's still rising because Remember Jeremiah smith was. There he

1008
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 7: wouldn't well to be seeing it as. Much and he's

1009
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 7: used to being around other people who are, great must

1010
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 7: be great. Himself so If tate's name gets, called that

1011
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 7: makes a lot of.

1012
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: Sense to, me there'd be a lot of. Joy, oh

1013
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: we'd be quite. There we'd be a lot of.

1014
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 7: Joy and whoever's playing quarterback for you should be beyond

1015
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 7: thrill That Todd munkan will make great use of, him

1016
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 7: that's for.

1017
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Sure how do you feel from a philosophical standpoint as

1018
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: we're sitting right here and we See Ben johnson being

1019
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: interviewed right next to us there with The, Bears The

1020
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: bears kind of over a two year period a mass you,

1021
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Know Dj, Moore Roma, DUNEES A Luther burden in this past,

1022
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: Draft Colston level and the Ed Cole. Comett they bring

1023
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: In DeAndre, swift they bring him anun guy to be the.

1024
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: Hammer obviously you Have Caleb williams as the, triggerman but

1025
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: once he came, in not only they keep drafting these,

1026
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: weapons then they address the. Line you need the weapons to,

1027
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: score you need the line to help. Them it's almost

1028
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: chicken an egg in a, sense it. Is how do

1029
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: you kind of see that because we've Had, listen we've

1030
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: had great lines In cleveland without, weapons and that hasn't

1031
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: led to.

1032
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 7: Winning, yeah that's the hard. PART i think the old

1033
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 7: adages you build with the line first and then you

1034
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 7: go get other. People BUT i think that you just

1035
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 7: don't turn down great that's staring in front of, you

1036
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 7: and then you supplement around, it like if the receiver is. There,

1037
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 7: first you go get the. Receiver you don't turn it

1038
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 7: down to go get another. Lineman you find the lineman

1039
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 7: somewhere as you go. Along and you, KNOW i Wish

1040
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 7: Andrew barry and every one luck because they know way

1041
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 7: better how to do it THAN i. Do BUT i

1042
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 7: also have seen just as you, said you can amass. That,

1043
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 7: hey this is, Fantastic but now how many? Playmakers, okay

1044
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 7: So i'm kind of wasting those guys that are up.

1045
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 7: Front the last Two Super bowl champions they have not,

1046
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 7: wasted you, know those. Opportunities great, defenses good offensive, lines

1047
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 7: runners who can beat you. Up seeing great to see, you,

1048
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 7: Guys thanks for, everything continue, success you take care of.

1049
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 4: Yourselves, okay the parade Of stars.

1050
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,560
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1051
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,520
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1052
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,719
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1053
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,320
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1067
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1078
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: Cocktail and the other thing that you want to, do

1079
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 5: you aspire to, do is talk to this, man the,

1080
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: great great Co.

1081
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: Sell this is why we come here this.

1082
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: Conversation where does in terms of the exhaustive prep that

1083
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: you do for a draft, class where does the combine

1084
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: sit for you in terms of getting that part done the?

1085
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 9: Building it's really it's an interesting question because OBVIOUSLY i

1086
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 9: go into the, workout SO i see guys work, out

1087
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 9: and there's a value in that for me, Obviously but

1088
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 9: for me what the combine is Because i'm always seeking

1089
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 9: to learn more and. More it's it's more about talking

1090
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 9: with coaches. Gms you, KNOW i had a great lunch

1091
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 9: yesterday with the D c in the. League he gave

1092
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 9: me three and a half. Hours you, know Now i've

1093
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 9: known him for, years but still three and a half

1094
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 9: hours is a lot of. Time and we were just talking,

1095
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 9: ball and you, Know i'm just trying to. Learn you,

1096
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 9: Know i'm talking to him about you, know what offenses

1097
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 9: give him? Trouble you, know what are the things on

1098
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 9: the on offense that give you? Trouble where do you

1099
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 9: see the league? Going you, Know i'm just trying to

1100
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 9: learn because then WHEN i go watch, TAPE i see

1101
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: it with a different. Eye and that's exactly What i'm

1102
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 9: trying to, do you, know because, look Obviously i'm sitting

1103
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 9: AT Nfl, Films i've got my whole. SETUP i watch.

1104
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 9: TAPE i don't get to talk to. PLAYERS i, don't you,

1105
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 9: Know i'm not in meetings of teams when they're game

1106
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 9: planning or doing their their. Work So i'm trying to

1107
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 9: get a bigger picture of how coaches who live and

1108
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 9: die with. THIS i, mean you, know FORTUNATELY i don't

1109
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 9: get fired if you, know a team, loses you, know

1110
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 9: But i'm trying to learn more and more every single.

1111
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 9: Year so for, me the combine is more about that

1112
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 9: than seeing what you, know, guys forty yard dash.

1113
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: Time is for people who don't understand watching, tape it's

1114
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: silent In denver and, yes, yes so in my mind

1115
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: when you're talking about, that you're always seeking to have

1116
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: the new voice as you're watching the tr guide you

1117
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: through what you're seeing and so getting that time with

1118
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: THE dc that's giving now when you watch, something you're

1119
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: hearing that.

1120
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: Discussion, yeah he gave.

1121
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 9: Me we talked about some, teams you, know some really

1122
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 9: good offenses in the, league and you know how what

1123
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 9: what makes them difficult to? Defend and you, know he

1124
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 9: just talked to me about and how you have to

1125
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 9: do certain things with your front and how that impacts

1126
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 9: then how you play on the back. End and you,

1127
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 9: know it just gives me more. Information and that's you,

1128
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 9: know to, me it's it's it's always a quest for

1129
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 9: learning more and. More you, Know, Look i've been doing

1130
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 9: this a long, Time. Nathan i've known for a long.

1131
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 9: Time he knows That i'm. NOT i don't really talk about.

1132
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 9: Myself i'm a, grinder you. KNOW i KNOW i know

1133
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 9: a lot because it's WHAT i. DO i literally watch

1134
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 9: tape every single. DAY i, mean you, know so you've,

1135
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 9: dedicated that's. Right, yeah that's WHAT i. Do but there's

1136
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 9: always way more to. Learn and then that's the WAY

1137
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 9: i feel WHEN i watch. TAPE i always feel like

1138
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 9: if a coach is sitting, here he'd point out ten

1139
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 9: things That i'm. Missing and that's the WAY I you

1140
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 9: know that that's sort of the WAY i watch. Tape

1141
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 9: it's not, like oh, man the rest of us are

1142
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 9: supposed to.

1143
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 4: Right right, right so we're missing a million.

1144
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: Things got it down to.

1145
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: Ten that's big. Winning it's.

1146
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 5: Incredible lesson than that, Though oh, yeah for the, kids

1147
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 5: for the people out there, listening because you are the

1148
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 5: dean of all of, this and the idea that you

1149
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 5: come here with this appetite to get smart over the.

1150
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 3: Year that's WHAT i have think about.

1151
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i kind of, picture you, know a bloomin, onion,

1152
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: right and you're trying to get through layer after layer

1153
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: that On, yeah to still it down To, okay what

1154
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: is what's happening? Now because by the, way watching, TAPE

1155
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: i remember we were talking last year about, quarterbacks were

1156
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: Talking Teddy bridgewater twenty.

1157
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: Fourteen that position has changed so.

1158
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: Much so the way you watch tape in twenty, fourteen

1159
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: or what THE nfl was or what they wanted out

1160
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: of certain, positions or what defenses we're trying to do

1161
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: or what offenses we're trying to.

1162
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: Take it's like a different.

1163
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 9: Language, No and the game constantly, evolves and you've got

1164
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 9: to watch tape and see it, evolve and you know

1165
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 9: grow with the. Game you, know SOMETIMES i grow quick

1166
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 9: with the. Game Sometimes i'm, stubborn and you, know you

1167
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 9: stick to what you you, know you believed for years

1168
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 9: and but you just you just keep trying to grow

1169
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 9: and get better and see it. Differently and by the,

1170
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 9: WAY i have no problem admitting IF i don't know,

1171
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 9: SOMETHING i have no problem that because there's certain things

1172
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 9: you can't possibly, know which is WHY i never talk

1173
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 9: about like game plans and play, calls because you don't

1174
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 9: know what goes into all. That you'd have to be

1175
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 9: in their meetings all week to know, that, sure AND i.

1176
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 9: Don't i'm not in their, meetings so you KNOW. I in,

1177
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 9: Fact Matt, hasselbeck Who i've known for, years he said

1178
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 9: to me a couple of years, ago he, said you,

1179
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 9: know you, know one REASON i respect you so, much

1180
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 9: which actually tells me that you know a, lot is

1181
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 9: you're more than willing to say that you don't know

1182
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 9: something you know because you just can't know everything, right

1183
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 9: oh could?

1184
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: You it's important to know what you don't know right,

1185
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: right and then you can seek it. Out you, know

1186
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: you're talking about the com mind in your quest for.

1187
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: Knowledge and you know talking to you is a part

1188
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: of my quest for reviledge every, year and you know

1189
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: we have to create that. Talk last, year, me you

1190
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: And charles when we were. Talking, yeah unfortunately turned out

1191
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: to be a little more prescient THAN i would have

1192
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 2: like to have been in. Retrospect but you, Know todd

1193
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: was just sitting here with, us new head coach of The,

1194
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: Browns Todd. Munkan the people. Here this is a special

1195
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: event because everybody's. Here you want to talk To, now some,

1196
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: coaches Now sean McVay doesn't. Come but for the most,

1197
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: part you want to talk to every coach in THE.

1198
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: Nfl they're. Here you want to talk to EVERY gm

1199
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: in THE. Nfl they're. Here the people who have made their,

1200
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: lives dedicate their lives to football in other capacities like,

1201
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: yourself are.

1202
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 4: Here this IS i call it kind of Football.

1203
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Disneyland if you're, like if that's, what you're, Right and

1204
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: that's what's so. Cool it's the, people the, connections the

1205
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: you know running into at high velocity and we get

1206
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: to shoot the you know bs for a, second great.

1207
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 9: Man and by the, way sometimes you see someone and

1208
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 9: you have an eight minute conversation because that's all you

1209
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 9: know it would work, out and you just hear something

1210
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 9: from a, coach it resonates in a totally different way

1211
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 9: and you, go, WOW i just really learned. Something very

1212
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 9: often that happens to me as a coach says something

1213
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 9: AND i, SAY i knew, that but he just said

1214
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 9: it in a way that made me think about it,

1215
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 9: Differently and you know that's to, me that's great when.

1216
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 5: You think of all the years that you've watched and

1217
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 5: we just Said todd, here which kind of dubtails into,

1218
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 5: this as you watched His ravens. Operation, offensively what stood

1219
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 5: out to you in terms of this is what he's

1220
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 5: going to bring To. Clai obviously special player In, lamar

1221
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: and that's a part of. It but two Of lamar's

1222
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: last years were.

1223
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: While he was.

1224
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 9: Funny you say that BECAUSE i certainly don't Know Todd,

1225
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 9: munkin AND i don't know what's in his, head AND i,

1226
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 9: certainly you, know don't know the relationship that you had With.

1227
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 9: Lamar you'd have to be there to know. That but

1228
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 9: here's my, sense AND i could be one thousand percent.

1229
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 9: WRONG i think that he limited a lot of the

1230
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 9: things he would really like to do BECAUSE i Think

1231
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 9: lamar was extremely comfortable playing out of the big personnel

1232
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 9: package With Patrick, ricard and at some point you have

1233
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 9: to play to what your quarterback is comfortable.

1234
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: With he says that that's what it starts with understanding your,

1235
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: quarterback what he does, well what his strengths, are what

1236
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: his weakness, are and then you build your offense from, there.

1237
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 9: Right and again this is just OBVIOUSLY i don't Know

1238
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 9: Lamar jackson, either so this is just my sense from

1239
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 9: watching tape of The bravens when he was the coordinator

1240
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 9: for two three years.

1241
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: Whatever, yeah and my sense is that he would like

1242
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: to play.

1243
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 9: More out of what we call eleven, personnel meaning one

1244
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 9: back in three wide but That lamar was really comfortable

1245
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 9: playing With, ricard you, know who played PROBABLY i don't,

1246
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 9: know thirty five percent of their. Snaps, yeah you, know

1247
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 9: playing out of heavier. Packages and when all's said and,

1248
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 9: done you play offense to your. Quarterback if your quarterback's not,

1249
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 9: comfortable you're not going to have a good. Offense so,

1250
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 9: again we have no idea what he's going to do

1251
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 9: with The browns because you, know at this point we

1252
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 9: don't know what their personnel will necessarily. Be BUT i

1253
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 9: think in an ideal, world he would like to play

1254
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 9: more with three wide receivers on the.

1255
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: Field that's my. Sense.

1256
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeh is there something to when you see a guy

1257
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: Like todd who you know prior to go into The.

1258
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: Ravens he's working With Stetson, Bennett. Georgia, right they win

1259
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: two national. Championships he could be stylistically probably could not

1260
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: be farther From Lamar.

1261
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: Jackson oh, yeah and then you go To.

1262
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: Baltimore, now he had said in his press conference when

1263
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: he came in that he took that job in particular

1264
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: because he thought it was his best path to get

1265
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: to be a head, coach because that IF i can

1266
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Make Lamar jackson be able to throw the ball successfully

1267
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: when other teams know we need to throw the, ball

1268
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: then that will be my calling. Card and you look

1269
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: at his first SEASON. Mvp second season forty one hundred,

1270
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: yards forty one, touchdowns four picks as the best passing

1271
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: season he's ever no. Question that to me gives me

1272
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: some hope here with The. Browns that sets In, Bennet

1273
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Lamar jackson couldn't be. Different and you got the best

1274
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: out of both of. Them yeah, No and that's that's the.

1275
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: Key you have to play to your.

1276
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 9: QUARTERBACK i think every, Look i've always been a, believer

1277
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 9: And i'm SURE i was told this years and years,

1278
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 9: ago but whoever told me it resonated is teams tell

1279
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 9: you what the coaches tell you what they think of their,

1280
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 9: quarterback both good and, bad by how they what they

1281
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 9: ask the quarterback to, do, RIGHT i, mean you, know

1282
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 9: no coach is going to ask a quarterback to do

1283
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 9: things that they don't feel he can. Do and no

1284
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 9: quarterback is going to Ask no coach is going to

1285
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 9: ask a quarterback to do things that they know the

1286
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 9: quarterback is uncomfortable. Doing, so you, know because a lot

1287
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 9: of what a lot of teams do is and you

1288
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 9: probably know, This, nathan is a lot of. Teams you,

1289
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 9: know maybe it's A saturday night or, whatever the quarterback

1290
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 9: and the offensive coordinator get, together and you, know if

1291
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 9: you have a veteran, quarterback you pretty much, say, hey

1292
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 9: is there anything in this game plan you don't, like you,

1293
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 9: know you're not comfortable. With and you know the quarterback might, say,

1294
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 9: oh you, know these these three plays just Not i'm

1295
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 9: not feeling. It then you take them out because you're

1296
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 9: not going to call a play in a critical situation

1297
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 9: that the quarterback is uncomfortable.

1298
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: Running when you think about kind of the evolution of

1299
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: the chess, match AND i, know you do such a

1300
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: great job of the match when you love that and

1301
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: you get into. It do you think the AVERAGE nfl

1302
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: fan would just be shocked at how much goes into

1303
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: a game plan and how much if somebody motions from

1304
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: one into, three how much of that, changes and the

1305
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: calculations and the switches that need to be made on

1306
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: a defense to react to that in a split.

1307
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: Second, really how some?

1308
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 9: WOULD i think some would for, sure because none of

1309
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 9: this stuff look obviously not everything on either side of the.

1310
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: Ball with coaches works all the.

1311
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 9: TIME i MEAN i had this, conversation LIKE i, said

1312
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 9: with the dcsay and he, said, hey when the game's,

1313
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 9: over And i'm, like you, know it's three four hours.

1314
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 9: Later you, KNOW i always look back on the game

1315
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 9: AND i, think, hey there's five or six THINGS i

1316
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 9: just would have done totally. Differently that's human, nature of,

1317
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 9: course you, know so if a fan, hurt obviously coaches

1318
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 9: don't say that, necessarily but a, fan some fans would, think,

1319
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 9: oh you, know he got, out, Coach there has nothing

1320
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 9: to do with. THAT i, mean it's it's you, know

1321
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 9: there's so many elements to, this there's so many moving.

1322
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: Parts you, know.

1323
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 9: It's it's it's just a, difficulty which is why you,

1324
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 9: know it's, funny we were just talking kind of. ORGANICALLY

1325
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 9: i remember WHEN i first read when it BECAUSE i

1326
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 9: read it when it came.

1327
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: OUT i Read.

1328
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 9: Moneyball and Because i'm a big baseball, Fan i'm sure

1329
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 9: you guys are, too you, know with your. TEAM i

1330
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 9: was going to say The, indians but they're The, guardian that's,

1331
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 9: Right that's.

1332
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: Right.

1333
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah and and SO i.

1334
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 9: Read moneyball and THEN i thought to, MYSELF i spent

1335
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 9: the next like, month because it was the, summer that's

1336
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 9: WHEN i you, know it was read it the next you,

1337
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 9: know month trying to figure out if it applied to.

1338
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 9: Football and again not That i'm you, know the expert

1339
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 9: on it by any, means you.

1340
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: Know it was our in our, building, WELL i, know

1341
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: for a lot of.

1342
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: Years, yeah, yeah tried to.

1343
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 9: Play, Yeah AND i just didn't feel that it truly

1344
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 9: applied because you're talking about twenty two moving pieces on every,

1345
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 9: play where baseball is a static, game that's, right you.

1346
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 9: Know and and again not THAT i said anything profound

1347
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 9: Or i'm smarter than anybody, else BUT i just couldn't

1348
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 9: figure out how you could apply that in a really

1349
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 9: meaningful way because there's so many moving parts on every.

1350
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: Play you can't have the predictive, nature and then you

1351
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: probably see the shifts in the way. People, right it's

1352
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: a completely different sport from THAT i, remembered you, know

1353
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: growing up playing or even.

1354
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 9: Watch AND i was a baseball guy growing up BECAUSE

1355
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 9: i played, it you, know Because i'm, OLDER a lot

1356
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 9: of younger people have no idea that in the late

1357
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 9: sixties early, seventies WHEN i was in my formative, years

1358
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 9: that the two biggest sports in The United states were

1359
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 9: baseball and.

1360
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: Boxing. Correct you, know SO i grew, up you, know

1361
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: a hardcore baseball. GUY i, MEAN i went to high

1362
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: school and you're.

1363
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 4: Talking, there Tom, sever you're dropping a tom Se, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1364
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 4: yeah that was your.

1365
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 9: Game you. Know, LOOK i grew up In, queens you,

1366
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 9: Know New York city, basically you, know not a lot

1367
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 9: of high schools had, football, right you, know SO i

1368
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 9: didn't play. FOOTBALL i played baseball and, basketball you. Know

1369
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 9: so you, know but that's back in the, day you.

1370
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 9: Know so, ANYWAY i just didn't feel like with twenty

1371
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 9: two moving parts on every play that you could isolate

1372
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 9: it like, that you, know BECAUSE i.

1373
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: Can't, yeah you.

1374
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 4: CAN'T i can't help you with salary cap movement and.

1375
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: Structuring i'm not.

1376
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: Saying there's no place for, it BUT i don't think

1377
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: that the game can be built around. That yeah it's too,

1378
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: fast yeah, yeah and there's too many, variables too many. Variables,

1379
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: yeah that's why it's the.

1380
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: BEST i know you're early on in your, processes but for,

1381
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 5: us three picks in the top Forty nathan AND i were, weapons, weapons,

1382
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 5: weapons guys always. Are you're doing some preliminary stuff on

1383
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: this wide receiver, class.

1384
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: But i've been done twelve. Guys what do you think

1385
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: of who you've? Seen you, KNOW.

1386
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 9: I think that a lot of these receivers will be

1387
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 9: in the eye of the beholder because there's No Jamar

1388
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 9: chase in this. Class there's there's nobody like. That and,

1389
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 9: again having said, that that doesn't mean receivers won't be

1390
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 9: taken high because with this not being a quarterback class

1391
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 9: a quarterback, draft you're going to get guys you know

1392
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 9: that are pushed up just because they're not going to

1393
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 9: be pushed down because, yeah there's no quarterbacks to push them, down,

1394
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 9: Right So i'm just going by my evaluation of the.

1395
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 9: Players you, Know nathan knows.

1396
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: ME i don't do. LISTS i don't do mock. Drafts

1397
01:03:59,080 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: YEAHH i.

1398
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 9: Have, hey maybe three receivers get drafted in the top.

1399
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 9: FIFTEEN i don't, know BUT i don't see it in

1400
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 9: a normal. WORLD i don't see receivers in this draft

1401
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 9: really being like top ten, players you. Know but you,

1402
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 9: know IF i had to pick one guy THAT i

1403
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 9: liked the, Best i'd probably Say Carnell. TAIT i think,

1404
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 9: he's to, me the guy that's likely to be the

1405
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 9: safest and the and the best of the. Group you,

1406
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 9: know whether he's a quote unquote, one you, KNOW i don't,

1407
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 9: know you, know but HE'S i think he's a good.

1408
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 9: Player after, THAT i think you're in the eye of the.

1409
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 9: BEHOLDER i, mean you, know, YEAH i think guys have

1410
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 9: positives and guys have. Weaknesses and, look we we live

1411
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 9: in a time when a quarterbacks throw the ball a.

1412
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 9: Lot if you're in the right, scheme a guy can

1413
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 9: catch a lot of. BALLS i, mean look at A

1414
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 9: monross Sint. BROWN i, mean he was a fourth round.

1415
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 9: Pick you, KNOW i think pretty much most people thought

1416
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 9: that's he was drafted where he should been. Drafted and

1417
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 9: now he went to you, Know Ben johnson, offense and

1418
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 9: which is one of the best in the league as

1419
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 9: far as route concepts and route spacing and all those

1420
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 9: good things that make past offenses. Work and he's turned

1421
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 9: out to, be you, know a high volume target who's

1422
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 9: a really good.

1423
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: Receiver you.

1424
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 9: Know so could that happen with one of these guys

1425
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 9: depending on where they go and how they're. Deployed, Absolutely

1426
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 9: BUT i think if you look at their, trades you

1427
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 9: don't come away, going oh, man this. Guy he's absolutely

1428
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 9: a top ten.

1429
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: Pick what did you think Of Jackson smith And jigoba

1430
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: a few years? Back and what's made him be so

1431
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: well darn?

1432
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 3: Good WHAT i?

1433
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 9: Loved and don't forget he didn't play his last year

1434
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 9: because he got hurt after what like a.

1435
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: Game, yeah.

1436
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 9: He was one of those guys that had just rare

1437
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 9: quickness in and out of breaks just you, know you

1438
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 9: just watch him and, man he could snap it.

1439
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 3: Off he was.

1440
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 9: Sudden, now DID i think he'd become, This, no but

1441
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 9: he definitely had that trait that was really evident on

1442
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 9: film that he could just snap it in and out

1443
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 9: of brakes and that was his sort of. Superpower and

1444
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 9: in the, league that's what it. Is you got to

1445
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 9: be able to. Separate, yeah and he could do, that

1446
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 9: and you know he's got enough speed and enough understanding

1447
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 9: of running routes that he can get over the. Top

1448
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 9: but you probably wouldn't call him a true vertical. Player,

1449
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 9: yeah but he can do.

1450
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: That it makes a big. Place, yeah, yeah, yeah it

1451
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 4: was Interesting Tom. BRADY i don't know if you caught the.

1452
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: Commentary brady was doing one of their, games and he,

1453
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: said as a, quarterback what you loved about him his

1454
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: ability to create. Separation but as a, cornerback the reason

1455
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: he put people in such stresses that his shoulders were

1456
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 2: always level and so that they couldn't get any read

1457
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: on which direction he wanted to. Go and then you

1458
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: combine that uncertainty with his ability to snap it, off

1459
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: as you, Said and then now that the, league you

1460
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: are one hundred percent. RIGHT i, mean that's that's exactly.

1461
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 2: Right you, know it's funny that you just we're talking.

1462
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: ORGANICALLY i remember years and years ago WHEN i used

1463
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: to do a ton of interviews FOR nfl. FILMS i

1464
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: was Interviewing chris, McCallister a corner From, arizona.

1465
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 9: And Jimmy, smith the wide receiver For, jacksonville came out

1466
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 9: and he, said he's the toughest receiver for me to play,

1467
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 9: against because every part of his stem until literally the very,

1468
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 9: end looks exactly the. Same so you have no idea

1469
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 9: what rout he's, running and then so you're almost reactive

1470
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 9: to what he.

1471
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: Does then you're. Beaten, Yeah, yeah then you're. Beaten.

1472
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1473
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 5: Right we talk About, seattle and we've talked about this off,

1474
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 5: air but it does feel like what they, did certainly

1475
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 5: What philly, did maybe another path to, build not that

1476
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 5: it's any, easier but perhaps another path to kind of

1477
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 5: build a contender in terms of great, defense really solid

1478
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 5: offensive line, play massive weapon In Jackson smith And jigba

1479
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: and Then Sam darnold when it came time went toe

1480
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 5: to toe With stafford twice in the second half within four. Weeks,

1481
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 5: yeah and went toe to toe and got it done

1482
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 5: when he needed, to and then they obviously. Overwhelmed is

1483
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 5: in a copycat? League, well we see teams, saying, man

1484
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 5: can we pull that? Off my hunches we, will BUT

1485
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 5: i think it's maybe more difficult than people.

1486
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: Realize well it.

1487
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 9: Is i've never been a blueprint guy BECAUSE i think

1488
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 9: that's such a function of, Personnel, like for, instance there's

1489
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 9: not Thirty Nick kim And. Warre's you're dealing with a

1490
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 9: six three and an, eighth two hundred twenty pounds safety

1491
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 9: who ran a fourth three eight at The. Combine he

1492
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 9: essentially was A sam linebacker for, them but he has

1493
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 9: traits that go well beyond A sam. Linebacker but you,

1494
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 9: know so you can't just take any guy and, say,

1495
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 9: well you know, what we're gonna play him Like. Nick

1496
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 9: it's Like Caleb downs in this. DRAFT i Think Caleb

1497
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 9: downs is a really good, prospect but he's Not nickim And.

1498
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 9: Wari he's you, KNOW i spoke to A midwest scout

1499
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 9: WHO i, know and he told me he'll probably be

1500
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 9: like five or eleven and a half one ninety, seven

1501
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 9: one ninety.

1502
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: Eight AND i think he's a really good. Player he's

1503
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: a great.

1504
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 9: Player, Yeah but you, know the two players that came

1505
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 9: to mind AS i was finishing my work on On

1506
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 9: Caleb down Where Buddha baker And Antoine. WINFIELD i think

1507
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 9: he's kind of like, that which is nothing wrong with,

1508
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 9: that it's just a different.

1509
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 4: Player. Yeah, SO i mean he's Not Kyle, Hamilton he's

1510
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: Not derwin J. Ja, No, no he's.

1511
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 9: Not so you, KNOW i think you have to have

1512
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 9: the right, players you, know and don't forget the one

1513
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 9: area WHERE i think you might, SEE i don't know

1514
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 9: a trend for one of a better term is the detackle.

1515
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 9: Position And i'll tell you, why because more and more

1516
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 9: teams are playing for. Across so what that means is

1517
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 9: and we're not going to go in the weeds here

1518
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 9: because people are you, know can't. See it's not Like

1519
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 9: i'm sure we're showing. Plays but now your dtackles become

1520
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 9: so important in the run game because you're not adding

1521
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 9: that extra player into your. Gaps you, know with, safety

1522
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 9: you're not playing single high where there's a safety in

1523
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 9: the box and he takes care of a. Gap so

1524
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 9: now your defensive tackles have to become what a lot

1525
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 9: of coaches call gap and a half. Players you've probably

1526
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 9: heard that, term you. Know so you, know when you

1527
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 9: look at the teams that were in The final four this,

1528
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 9: year they all had big time de tackle starters and

1529
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 9: rotational players keep them, fresh you, know because you had,

1530
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 9: obviously The seahawks Had Byron murphy And Leonard, williams right

1531
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 9: EVEN i know The patriots, lost but they Had Christian

1532
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 9: barmore And Milton.

1533
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 3: Williams you, know he was on.

1534
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 4: The eagles and was great for The eagles when they

1535
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: did when the sea right, right right.

1536
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 9: Right SO i mean, again just, potentially you, Know i'm

1537
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 9: not going to sit here and say that's the way

1538
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 9: that the league's going for, sure but if you're going

1539
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 9: to play more four, across you need those tackles to

1540
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 9: be really good in the run.

1541
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Game well that's for, us you, know you think about

1542
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: our last two. Drafts the first player taken in either

1543
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: of those drafts two years ago Is Mike hall in

1544
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: the second round And Mason grant And Mason, graham and

1545
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: we need those guys to go right because that's critically

1546
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: important we play four, across, right that's a big thing for.

1547
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: Us SO i got great play From Leek. Comms now

1548
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: he's coming back from an, injury but, yeah kind of

1549
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: talking with him though a little bit about trends as

1550
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: he was, saying what do we learn from a guy

1551
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: Like Malik, willis who's going to be the most talked

1552
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: about quarterback at this? Combine Mendoz is going, one that's a,

1553
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 2: given and then we can get in this if there

1554
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: are you, know guys that you would like from a

1555
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 2: tools he, Perspective but what do we learn from A

1556
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 2: Malik willis who had a lot of tools gets With

1557
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: Matt lafleur hasn't started a, lot but is going to

1558
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: be the hottest free agent obviously in the league at that.

1559
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 9: Position because it's a bad draft for, quarterbacks, Right, well you,

1560
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 9: know it's funny you mentioned. THAT i sort Of i'm

1561
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 9: on my own little crusade here about the discussion of

1562
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 9: quarterback traits because what you keep hearing is he's got

1563
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 9: great traits and ninety nine point nine percent of the.

1564
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 3: Time what do people mean by?

1565
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 4: That it means that he can throw it on an

1566
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: army and.

1567
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: He's and he can.

1568
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 9: Run, now THE nfl is playing at a high level

1569
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 9: at the quarterback. Position that's not the reason you play

1570
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 9: at a high. Level is it nice to have a big? Arm,

1571
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 9: Look Matthew stafford has a. Gun you, know that's, Great,

1572
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 9: yeah you, Know but the quarterback position is so much

1573
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 9: more about the details of, it the nuance of, it the.

1574
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 9: Subtleties it's a discipline. Craft it's you, know and no

1575
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 9: one talks about. That and you know that's when Reason

1576
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 9: mendoz is such an interesting. Guy AND i like him

1577
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 9: a lot is because he's not in that conversation of oh,

1578
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 9: man he's so, toolsy because he kind of plays the

1579
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 9: game a little old school the way we sort of

1580
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 9: have stepped away from in talking about, it you, know

1581
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 9: and but he but he plays. IT i could totally

1582
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 9: understand Why Tom brady loves. Him, yes, YEAH i mean

1583
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 9: because he kind of plays it like, that you. Know

1584
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 9: And i'm not gonna send her and say It's Tom.

1585
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 9: Brady but you Know i'm. Talking i'm talking.

1586
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: Silistically sure you know how he, wins, right but in

1587
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: the pocket with his, mind, Right but no.

1588
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 9: One talks about that when they talk about quarterback. Trades

1589
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 9: they talk about big, arm always got great, arm tile

1590
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 9: on a, man he can run, around he's a great.

1591
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 9: Athlete well that's not necessarily why guys are a good.

1592
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: Quarterback, sure well think about, it like as you're, talking

1593
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: If Drew brees just showed up here at THE nfl, combine,

1594
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: right what would how would he be even be talked

1595
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: about here? Today because his best trait is something that

1596
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: you can't necessarily see between the, measurable, right it's not,

1597
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: measurable but he would.

1598
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: Not you know what it becomes measurable by the way he.

1599
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 4: Plays you see.

1600
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 9: It so even though you're not in his brain like

1601
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 9: with you, know some piece of equipment that measures brain,

1602
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 9: power the way he plays tells you that he has

1603
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 9: tremendous brain.

1604
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 4: Power for, sure he's.

1605
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 3: Going to ask.

1606
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 5: You you Mentioned Malik Willis kyler could be available to,

1607
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 5: it could be, available Mac jones could be available of that,

1608
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 5: Group and a lot of what you said is because

1609
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 5: maybe this draft didn't have what a lot of people

1610
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 5: a year ago thought that it would have in terms

1611
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 5: of the top end. Quarterback of those, guys is there

1612
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 5: anything that's intriguing in a new?

1613
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 9: Scenery don't forget now you're dealing with. Guys first of,

1614
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 9: all there's not many transcendent. Players i'm a big believer in.

1615
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 9: COACHING i think everybody needs to be. Coached and then

1616
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 9: you get into schemes and you, know just to give

1617
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 9: you an, example if you talk About Drake may with The,

1618
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 9: patriots and then let's say The Kyle shanahan, approach which

1619
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 9: Mac jones played in this, year you're talking about two

1620
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 9: totally different ways that the position is. Taught in The

1621
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 9: Kyle shanahan, offense the play caller is the. Star that's

1622
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 9: right in the in the in the and you were

1623
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 9: there When kyle was. There oh yeah. Yeah in The

1624
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 9: josh McDaniels, offense he gives the quarterback all the answers

1625
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 9: to the, test and then the quarterback has to figure

1626
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 9: out in the game which answers apply in a given.

1627
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 9: Situation Whereas kyle the, quarterback the play call is the

1628
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 9: answer to the.

1629
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: Test kyle's gonna boil it down and Say i'm going

1630
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: to design this so well that all you have to

1631
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: do is watch this guy and if he goes, here

1632
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: you throw it.

1633
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: There if he goes, there you throw it right.

1634
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 3: Here it's. It, yeah the play caller is the.

1635
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 9: Star, Right and you talk to any, COACH i mean

1636
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 9: THIS DC i spoke to you, yesterday just Said kyle's

1637
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 9: the best there. Is And i've had that conversation with many,

1638
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 9: coaches maybe forty. Nine er fans don't agree because they

1639
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 9: haven't won A Super. Bowl but that's the way defensive

1640
01:14:59,520 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 9: coaches and.

1641
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: League that's how they. Think, yeah that's how they.

1642
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, well it's interesting to.

1643
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: IT a part of, this, though is as you're looking

1644
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: at maybe quote quote, reclamations, Right donald spent time With Kyle,

1645
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: right and that is With kevin. O'Connell Daniel jones said

1646
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: that he learned so much with being With kevin. O'Connell

1647
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: maleak's now been With Matt. Lafleur Right baker was With

1648
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: sean mcvahan's credited that kind of helping.

1649
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: Him that's Why malik.

1650
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 9: Is to get back to your original, Question malik's a

1651
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 9: very difficult guy to figure out what he could be

1652
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 9: because you, know the most he's ever thrown a ball

1653
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 9: in a game was twenty three passes in his rookie

1654
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 9: year In, tennessee when he clearly wasn't ready to. Play

1655
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 9: and you, know if you're A starughter and you're a

1656
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 9: seventeen games, starter at the end of the, day he's

1657
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 9: gonna have. Games we've got to drop back thirty five forty.

1658
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 9: Times we have no idea if if anybody says they

1659
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 9: know the answer to, that they don't.

1660
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 2: Know the answer to that Is drew Aller. As we

1661
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: just jumped to a later around a guy that you,

1662
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: know you think about last. Year if he plays well

1663
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: Against Notre, dame maybe comes, out he goes. Top maybe

1664
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: he's A Cleveland. Brown, honestly maybe he's taken early in that.

1665
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: Draft now you can get him maybe at a. Discount

1666
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: what do you think of for him not to get

1667
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: into tools but size arm all of those Rue aller.

1668
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 9: Is going to be a function of a coach thinking

1669
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 9: that he can turn him into a good player because

1670
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 9: he's six, four two. Forty there's many throws during the

1671
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 9: season that you, go, wow that's that's pretty. Incredible but

1672
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 9: my sense is that he doesn't see it real. Well

1673
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 9: that it has to be really well defined, yep and you,

1674
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 9: know it just there's too many times WHERE i feel,

1675
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 9: like not seeing, it he ends up checking it down

1676
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 9: or making an easy throw when he just it doesn't

1677
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 9: it just doesn't process the way it should.

1678
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: Process and you, know, Again.

1679
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 9: I'm not in his, head SO i don't know what

1680
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 9: he's seeing or what he's thinks to BUT i think

1681
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 9: that that that's you, know there are certain quarterbacks that

1682
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 9: end up, being for whatever, reason risk, averse Like Derek

1683
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 9: carr was always a great example of. That Derek carr

1684
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 9: is risk averse because if it's all laid out, perfectly

1685
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 9: man does he look good throwing a. Football if it's

1686
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 9: not laid out, perfectly he checks it. Down you, know

1687
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 9: and and at some point in this, league is we

1688
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 9: all know you got you gotta turn it?

1689
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 5: Loose is there a quarterback that maybe third fourth that

1690
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,839
Speaker 5: you'd kind of think this is not a good quarterback?

1691
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 3: Draft are there? Quarterback you?

1692
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 9: Know now you get into how coaches look at a

1693
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 9: guy and how you can coach. Him LIKE i Think

1694
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 9: Taylor green From, arkansas and he's he's a, project no,

1695
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 9: Question BUT i think that somebody's gonna look at him

1696
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 9: and think in three years If i'm you, know IF

1697
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 9: i can coach it for three years and that maybe

1698
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 9: again here Can but if you can coach, him maybe

1699
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 9: in three, YEARS i got.

1700
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 3: Something you, know.

1701
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: That's a tough part of the, development right because if

1702
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: you're still coaching three years, later that means you're probably,

1703
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 2: winning which means maybe you don't even need that. Guy

1704
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: if your quarterback, Correct if you're recounting on that guy three,

1705
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 2: years you might not make.

1706
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 4: It it pulls at, It, yeah, yeah both.

1707
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 9: Sides you, know IT'S i don't, KNOW i, mean IT'S i,

1708
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 9: MEAN i happen to Think Ty simpson is the most

1709
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 9: intriguing quarterback in this, class and he has things that

1710
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 9: clearly need to be cleaned up and worked. Out and

1711
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 9: he's only a one year, starter AND i would never

1712
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 9: suggest he's ready to start week, one BUT i think

1713
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 9: he has starting. Trades and WHEN i say starting, TRADES

1714
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 9: i don't mean we're going to start talking about him

1715
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 9: With Josh allen and you know those.

1716
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: Guys BUT i think he could be a quality.

1717
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 9: STARTER i heard a coach tell me this couple WHILE

1718
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 9: i was, here that you'll be surprised he's bigger than

1719
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 9: you think he, is and that you, know and he

1720
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 9: he made Look alabama RAN nfl. ROUTE i mean you

1721
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 9: saw him make throws that you go those ARE nfl.

1722
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 9: Throws oh, yeah you know these are not checkdowns or

1723
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 9: quick little. Hitches these ARE nfl. Throws is there A

1724
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 9: Tyler shuck in the?

1725
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: Straft because that was the guy that you liked this

1726
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 2: year and boy or the second half of the, season

1727
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: he looks good cooking nobody.

1728
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 3: AGAIN i need to see more.

1729
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 9: GUYS i keep being told about The North Dakota state

1730
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 9: guy WHO i haven't, Seen Cole.

1731
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 4: PEYTON i guess it is Huh and he's a, lefty

1732
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 4: so you.

1733
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 9: KNOW i haven't seen him at, all you, know, uh

1734
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 9: BECAUSE i you, Know i've tried to watch guys THAT

1735
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 9: i KNEW i was going to get asked, about like

1736
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 9: the top. Guys you, Know i've watched The, bays The,

1737
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 9: bally's The Ohio state defensive, guys you.

1738
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 3: Know so you Know i've seen of those.

1739
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,919
Speaker 9: Guys i've seen three safeties downs, McNeil warren From toledo

1740
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 9: and Aj halsey FROM. Lsu so you, KNOW i haven't

1741
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 9: seen as many quarterbacks AS i normally would, Have like

1742
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 9: it was a big quarterback, year you'd HAVE i would

1743
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 9: have watched seven guys BEFORE i got.

1744
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 3: Here. Yeah, yeah it's just not just it's not those.

1745
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 4: Guys, yeah it's not too, fun but NOW i know

1746
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 4: how you spent three and a half. Hours it just, yeah,

1747
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 4: yeah it just flies.

1748
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: By, yeah thank you. Sir, great, great so much. Fun yeah,

1749
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 3: yeah that is.

1750
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 4: Just one of the absolute treats of being.

1751
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1752
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1753
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Speaker 2: for the, season because you're gonna get More great Co.

1754
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Speaker 4: Sell and what DO i want, More great Co? Cell

1755
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Speaker 4: when DO i want?

1756
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: It well in the football, season but REALLY i want

1757
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: it now we're being honest about it all right when

1758
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,599
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1759
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Speaker 2: treats of The combine every, year Certainly ghibbe's favorite. Thing

1779
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 2: although he did not come over for the lurk this.

1780
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: Year he sent us in his, stead Which i'm sure

1781
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: you're disappointed.

1782
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 8: By, well, YEAH i mean didn't come. By then you

1783
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 8: chickened out and ask somebody AT nbc to.

1784
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 4: Come and get.

1785
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 8: Me, so, man we're just getting soft and.

1786
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: Clean let's go on that as a gross miss representation

1787
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: of the. Facts bo our good, FRIEND bo great friends

1788
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: With Josh, Perry and you know.

1789
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 4: That's how that would. Be, yes, yeah, YEAH i would

1790
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 4: never be. AFRAID i had gotten back and forth many.

1791
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 4: Times here's a combine we.

1792
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: Have all, Right let's talk a little bit about, quarterbacks

1793
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think that's kind of the big thing the

1794
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: domino around the league always every single.

1795
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 4: Year this year not maybe so much in the.

1796
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: Draft we no mendoz is going to go, one but

1797
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: talking about guys Like Malik, willis will mac jones be

1798
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: available for the right, Price Kyler murray to some of

1799
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: those guys moving Aroun when you look at this, Quarterback Kirk,

1800
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: cousins who finished one of his last four games last.

1801
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: Year what are you seeing from this quarterback? Landscape and

1802
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: and how do you see maybe this shaking?

1803
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 3: Out?

1804
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 8: All? Right, WELL i think out of those guys you

1805
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 8: just talked about, there let's there's like two guys that

1806
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 8: really jump out to me THAT i still think have,

1807
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 8: Talent Right Kyler Murray. WON i still think in the right,

1808
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 8: situation he could still be a really GOOD nfl quarterback

1809
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 8: and make plays and lead a team the right. Way right,

1810
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 8: now it's gotta you gotta set some things up for.

1811
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 8: Him you can't expect him to just play in the

1812
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 8: pocket and play big like.

1813
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 7: That that's not what he.

1814
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 8: Is so you got to play a little. Different the

1815
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 8: other guy you, Mentioned Malik willis. Yep And i'm sorry

1816
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 8: Because i'm a mint in my, mouth which was stupid

1817
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 8: to me to put in my mouth right BEFORE i.

1818
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 8: Interview But Malik willis to me WHEN i break him

1819
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 8: down and watch, him And i've seen him in person

1820
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 8: a little, bit he has superstar.

1821
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 3: Talent.

1822
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 8: Right and you've Seen Jordan love two years in a

1823
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 8: row rush back from injury cause he's, like, damn the

1824
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 8: league will just looks really, good like this is supposed

1825
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 8: to be my. Team, yeah, right so he's the. One,

1826
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 8: NOW I don'm not saying you give him forty or

1827
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 8: fifty million dollars a, year but you give him DO

1828
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 8: I i could see like a two year deal right

1829
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 8: north of twenty million. Dollars let's see what you're. At

1830
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 8: see if you could prove it to, us and then

1831
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 8: maybe we get a long term deal. There but he's

1832
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 8: the one that really intrigues. ME i would not be

1833
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 8: shocked if From Miami dolphins team, went you know, what

1834
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 8: we're paying all this money For. Tua he's on the.

1835
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 8: Books we can Get malik for a good, price and

1836
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 8: the head coach and THE gm are From Green, bay,

1837
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 8: right so that that seems. Natural AND i like his

1838
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 8: game a. Lot you talked about Mac. Jones Mac, jones

1839
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 8: would the forty nine ers trade? Him knowing my buddies out, There,

1840
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 8: maybe BUT i think it would take a. Lot you,

1841
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 8: know you got to put yourself in the forty nine ers.

1842
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 8: Shoes they're gonna look at it and, go we're a

1843
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 8: Super bowl. Team if Brock party gets hurt five or

1844
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 8: six weeks like you did last, year and we don't

1845
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 8: have a guy in there that can come in and

1846
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 8: hold down the. Fort then we're out of the Super,

1847
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 8: bowl we're out of the, playoffs and it doesn't. Matter

1848
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 8: so they're not just gonna give him away for free

1849
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 8: or for next to nothing because it's an insurance.

1850
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: POLICY i would think it's got to be a first

1851
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: or second round pick because they think we're gonna get

1852
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: a camp for him next.

1853
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 4: Year.

1854
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 8: RIGHT i don't think they can get a first, round

1855
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 8: but a second round something like. That, yeah because they

1856
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 8: got to feel that they have somebody comfortable. With there's a,

1857
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 8: backup because you don't want to risk losing your whole football,

1858
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 8: team like we just talked about With Green bay Having

1859
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 8: Milik willis holding down the fort or Mac jones with

1860
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers or whatever. Else, so, yeah those

1861
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 8: are the ones that are very intriguing to. Me and

1862
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 8: then you Know Kirk cousins. Too Kirk cousins can still play.

1863
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 8: Ball is he a superstar?

1864
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Anymore?

1865
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 8: No, right what is he gonna be viewed? AS i

1866
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 8: think he's gonna be brought somewhere to be like a

1867
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 8: bridge quarterback on, right let's bring him. In we got

1868
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 8: him with my draft somebody he'll have to deal with,

1869
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 8: that but he's also the perfect guy to Like tuotor

1870
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 8: your young quarterback.

1871
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: Too AND, i like you, said your friends out there

1872
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: obviously big friends With kyle as.

1873
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 8: Wellh hanahan AND i played With John lynch In Tampa

1874
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 8: bay and he's a good friend as.

1875
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 4: Well so, yeah that's WHAT i was referring.

1876
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: To is there something To Sam darnold is With kyle

1877
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: before he goes To. Minnesota Mac jones plays his best

1878
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: football With. Kyle and it's not just, them you, Know kevin,

1879
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: O'Connell Daniel jones was, there said he learned so much.

1880
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: There baker was With sean McVay before things took. Off

1881
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 2: is there something about maybe these guys In Malik willis

1882
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: With Matt lafleur that there are these little pockets now

1883
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: maybe where you have quarterback finishing, School so it's Copy.

1884
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: Ketlee everybod's gonna want to find that next reclamation, project

1885
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 2: but that might be a good place to.

1886
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 4: Start those seem to be pretty good.

1887
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 8: Incubators, Definitely finishing school is a good way to put.

1888
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 8: It it props you up to the rest of THE

1889
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 8: nfl because they're, like well wait And shanahana. Mcveaghan though

1890
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 8: kind of like you wait one of my MISSING i,

1891
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 8: MUSCLE i should like you, too because their quarterback, gurus,

1892
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 8: Right SO i think there is a little bit of.

1893
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 8: That it gives you a prop up in your your

1894
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 8: aura and what you are in THE. NFL i also

1895
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 8: think to like what you said, there your spot on,

1896
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 8: two you go. There the reason those guys are who

1897
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 8: they are is because they have nuance in their coaching

1898
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 8: and how they coach, plays and they give clues for

1899
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 8: the players to look at to make them better on the,

1900
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 8: field no. Doubt and that's what a good coach. Does

1901
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 8: he can simplify. It, hey just read this. Guy i've

1902
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 8: exposed him with my. Play just read. Him i'm gonna

1903
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 8: make him. Wrong as long as you just throw the

1904
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 8: opposite direction he goes will be. Good, Right AND i

1905
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 8: think that's the. Beauty the third part of it, IS

1906
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 8: i don't give a damn who you, are, right other

1907
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 8: than Maybe Josh, Allen, Lamar Patrick, Mahomes Brett, Favre Aaron,

1908
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 8: Rodgers Dan, Marino John elway in their primes, right everybody needs,

1909
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 8: help everybody needs a team around. Him you Put Tom

1910
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 8: brady on The Carolina panthers At Baker mayfield was, on

1911
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 8: he wouldn't look Like Tom, brady let me just tell.

1912
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 8: You and that's the other. THING i think we've gotten

1913
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 8: so obsessed with, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. Quarterback if you don't

1914
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 8: have a, quarterback you can't. Win, no you, know you

1915
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 8: can have a good quarterback and still win if you

1916
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 8: have a really damn good, team, Right and that's WHAT

1917
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 8: i think you're seeing With baker and Sam donold and all.

1918
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 8: That they were in spots WHERE i always joke around and,

1919
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 8: go you, know when you're around, crap you start to

1920
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 8: smell a, crap some crap gets on, you and you

1921
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 8: start to look, Crappy and that's kind of the Situations

1922
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 8: donald And baker were.

1923
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: In now The browns are trying to get somebody that

1924
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: they've seen be successful with quarterbacks at every. Level todd

1925
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: munkin coming in to be the new head, coach what

1926
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: do you think about? That Higher in the last six,

1927
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: years we've seen him be really good With Stetson bennett

1928
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: when in two national championships At, georgia and then we

1929
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 2: see him Coach. Lamar, honestly for the best seasons That

1930
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: lamar's had AN, mvp and THEN i thought the year

1931
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: after it was one of the great seasons IN nfl.

1932
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 8: History i'm a big fan of Toon. MONKIN i actually

1933
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 8: told him that on the Field week eighteen In. PITTSBURGH

1934
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 8: i saw him pre, game and you, know honestly didn't

1935
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 8: think he would get a head coaching, job, right not

1936
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 8: the young offensive.

1937
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 3: Guru.

1938
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 8: RIGHT i just, Thought, man the league doesn't always like

1939
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 8: guys like. This he's a little, older. Right BUT i

1940
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 8: had told him right, there flat.

1941
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: OUT i was, like, MAN i love your.

1942
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 8: OFFENSE i love it At. GEORGIA i love what.

1943
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: You do there In.

1944
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 8: Baltimore and, YEAH i think he's sneaking under the.

1945
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: Radar one of the.

1946
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 8: Best offensive mines in the.

1947
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 3: SPORT i do.

1948
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: SO i love.

1949
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 8: That now the quarterback situation you guys have is it's.

1950
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 8: CONTEXTUAL i mean there's a lot. There there really. Is

1951
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 8: but It's Deshaun shadour And dylan And i'm Sure todd

1952
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 8: looks at it and goes, like usually great offensive, mines

1953
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 8: they're usually a little. Cocky they think IF i can

1954
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 8: get my hands on that, Guy i'll make him. Better,

1955
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 8: Sure And i'm sure he's. Gone, WAIT i Saw DeShawn

1956
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 8: watson be a. BALLER i CAN i can maybe make

1957
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 8: this work for him again Or shaudur and take him

1958
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 8: to the next, level because we saw moments Of shadur

1959
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 8: be like. This the problem is we saw moment like this,

1960
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 8: too so we got to get in the middle there.

1961
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 8: Somewhere BUT i think he's the right guy for the.

1962
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 3: JOB i definitely.

1963
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: Do we're excited about. It and to talk about those,

1964
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: quarterbacks we haven't seen To sean.

1965
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 4: In so, long so we really don't know what.

1966
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 3: That you don't know what to.

1967
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,879
Speaker 8: Expect this is the, craziest one of the craziest situations

1968
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 8: in the.

1969
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i think it'll be fascinating because if he can recapture,

1970
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: that it'll be a great comeback. Story and For, todd

1971
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: obviously that would be a very nice feather in his.

1972
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: Cap you Mentioned, shador and obviously he's the one we've

1973
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: seen most, recently and Even, dylan WHO i thought did

1974
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: a lot better than maybe the credit was.

1975
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 4: Given to a tough draw.

1976
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 8: There, yes from the anxiety of injury he gets in.

1977
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 8: There the team didn't play as good as well with,

1978
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 8: him and he had to deal with some, stuff no

1979
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 8: doubt about, it and the fan base just was not

1980
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 8: going to be patient with. Him they wanted to See.

1981
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: Shador, yes, Right so you talk about those high level,

1982
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: Moments so sure we saw some very high level. Throws

1983
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 2: we saw those great. Moments The tennessee game probably his best.

1984
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 2: Game but then to your, point the consistency for a young,

1985
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: quarterback what does it take to get to that level

1986
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: of consistency and how can somebody Like Todd, mounkin who's

1987
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: worked with a variety of different soule quarterbacks maybe help.

1988
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 8: Him, YEAH i think goes back to like what we

1989
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 8: were saying With shanahan, McVay all that they can make

1990
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 8: the game simpler for the, quarterback, right maybe give them more,

1991
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 8: offense but within the, plays make it simple for them to.

1992
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 8: UNDERSTAND i think it's gonna be big That shador is

1993
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 8: gonna be able to go into the offseason and go

1994
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 8: back watch, film watch it With. Todd todd's gonna teach

1995
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 8: him certain things and he, go oh, WAIT i didn't

1996
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 8: know that little nuance about that.

1997
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 4: Play, okay that makes.

1998
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 8: Sense and then as we see with any like quarterback

1999
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 8: guru type of, guy there's a little bit of the

2000
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 8: WHAT i always call rewiring The. Robot it's kind of

2001
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 8: what happened With Ben johnson And Caleb williams this, year. Right,

2002
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 8: caleb his whole life was, like, wait IF i just

2003
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 8: stand here and move around and make, PLAYS i make

2004
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 8: it happen all the, time my whole, life high, school, College, heisman,

2005
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 8: WHATEVER i make it. Happen And Ben johnson gets in

2006
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 8: there and, goes, hey it's THE. Nfl you're not gonna

2007
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 8: be able to do that all the. Time so you

2008
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 8: got to be better in that. Department AND i think

2009
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 8: that's where that'll Help chadu out a.

2010
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 4: Lot.

2011
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,880
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2012
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2013
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2014
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2017
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2018
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