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Speaker 2: Good morning, SWIMMERLD and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's Friday, October sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skeith.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm laughing at that intro there. That video is incredible.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna drop some bombs here on the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: Skey's joining us here as we got Tasmellis.

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Speaker 4: Hey everybody, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Tassy, we got the bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 2: the international Man of Mystery taking it to the max.

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Speaker 2: Lee Ellis friend, last but not least, making the magic

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Speaker 2: hap of JD. Hello, there he is here. We are

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Speaker 2: so I lied to you. I said we wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: Subscribe you never know when we'll be dropping a podcast

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Speaker 2: next week. No, here, we are too much news happened

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Speaker 2: to all of that, Maury and Tylu and we got

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Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody joining us live right now on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Beach step in.

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Speaker 2: We discussed Lebron's peak and Davias Burton's unrestricted free agency,

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Speaker 3: That man was getting ready to drop a bomb.

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Speaker 5: But I wouldn't be surprised if he, you know, behind

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Speaker 2: Well, is this is this why it's possible to that

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Speaker 3: He's there.

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Speaker 2: Let's go get him, you know what, whatever it takes,

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Speaker 2: and we got tinfoil lining it. But that there is

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Speaker 2: And again that's there's no there's no I don't think

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Speaker 2: But you see people throwing that as well, which I

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Speaker 3: I cut the lining out of my hats, so you

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Speaker 3: see no tinfoil here. But I have to agree with

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: Obviously there was tension between he and the front office,

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Speaker 3: It just seemed like it was time to move on.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was beef and like, if you can't

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Speaker 3: of names. I guess I should say, but what direction

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Speaker 6: They're going the same direction I think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I think, so Jeffy and Gundy's going to figure it

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Speaker 2: all out and small ball Jeffyan Gunney, I love that idea,

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Speaker 3: Would the Knicks do it? Probably? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't be all that shocked, but maybe you

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. Darryl Mory gone. I threw it out

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Speaker 5: Yep, why not. Let's get him on it.

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's talk to him free time. What was this

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Speaker 6: Is that it was one? It was a basketball and musical, okay,

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, the Ringer's got an article on it.

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Speaker 6: Ringers got an article on Darryl Murray's Smallball musical is

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Speaker 6: very good and very weird.

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Speaker 4: Cha Serrano wrote it in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't really remember that. I'd like to see

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Speaker 3: It's got to be up there, right. I watched Tampleton

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going because we have a

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Speaker 2: and re sign with the Lakers this offseason. Now eighty

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Speaker 2: and his agent Rich Paul. They're going to hold meetings

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Speaker 2: eighty signing the one plus one contract worth about sixty

431
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Speaker 2: eight million dollars to then become a free agent again

432
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,959
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one if he were to opt out

433
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 2: in the second year deal. Trey up or down on

434
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 2: that proposal from me?

435
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 3: On the one plus one, I think I'm going up.

436
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 3: I think that Anthony Davis doesn't really have a bad

437
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 3: choice he can make here. The opt out and re

438
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 3: sign with the Lakers seemed to be the move that

439
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 3: was going to be happening, you know, before he was

440
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 3: even traded from New Orleans to the Lakers, before they

441
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: even were able to pull it off last summer, we

442
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 3: all thought, Okay, he'll be back there after they play

443
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 3: their first season together. And that's exactly what it looks like.

444
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 3: If he's on the one plus one, he's on the

445
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 3: exact same timeline as Lebron, which also makes a lot

446
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 3: of sense. They can go in to free agency together.

447
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 3: They can figure out if they're going to be taking

448
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of a discount to try and bring

449
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,199
Speaker 3: in yet another star, something that Lebron has done in

450
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 3: the past when for him in a Big three. Who knows.

451
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 3: If you're on the same timeline with Lebron, you're doing

452
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: it right. But I also think maybe you could go

453
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 3: for a two plus one. I think that makes a

454
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: little bit of sense as well. It's a little bit

455
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: more stability. You gotta assume Lebron is gonna be picking

456
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: up his option in twenty one twenty two, so you're

457
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: still on the same timeline. And then, as Sean Schrana

458
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 3: pointed out, Anthony Davis would then have ten years of

459
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 3: service in the NBA, which then in his free agency

460
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two, he's eligible for the super duper

461
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 3: max contract. So maybe he wants to lock in two

462
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 3: years of getting paid this measly thirty percent max contract

463
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Speaker 3: to be ready for the thirty five when it comes.

464
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Speaker 3: But you know, as a Bolls fan, with Anthony Davis

465
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Speaker 3: coming from Chicago, you see the opt out and Lee

466
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: gets in slack. He says, hey, man, send me that

467
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: gift of you rising up being excited. I didn't know

468
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Speaker 3: what was gonna be for Anthony Davis opting out, I

469
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Speaker 3: would have never sent it to you. Yeah, because there

470
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Speaker 3: was no doubt the guy's gonna leave La. It's not

471
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Speaker 3: gonna He's not gonna leave. He's in a perfect spot

472
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Speaker 3: right now to grow old with Lebron.

473
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Speaker 5: I can't believe I didn't use that gift during the

474
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 5: playoffs when pulled. George had a bad guy and Jimmy

475
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 5: Butler had a good guy.

476
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Speaker 6: Right.

477
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Speaker 5: I was exact myself yesterday because yeah, it was kind

478
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 5: of a little bit wise. It is like it there's

479
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 5: no real drama there. But yeah, no, you just gonna

480
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: have a little bit of fun in the off season,

481
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 5: that's right.

482
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: That's right.

483
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: Put me down for a three year, like one hundred

484
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: and six million dollar deal that eighty will sign with

485
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: the Lakers, the two plus one with that player option

486
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: in the third year, all because what you said there,

487
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: and as Sham's pointed out, yeah, then you hit the

488
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: thirty five percent max contract when you come to free

489
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Speaker 2: agency if you want to, and then you'd be probably

490
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Speaker 2: looking at it a deal over two hundred and fifty

491
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: million dollars and it's eighty. Look, he gets injured every

492
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: five games, so you know you do want some stability,

493
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure. But if he's on this trajectory where he

494
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: maybe becomes the best player in the game and we

495
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: think it's in play, then yeah, then you'd be looking

496
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: at the max max max max money and you'd be laughing.

497
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Speaker 6: Then.

498
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Speaker 2: So I'll guess right now, tass out a two plus one.

499
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Speaker 2: But what do you think he does or are you

500
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Speaker 2: up or down on the one plus one?

501
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Speaker 6: I guess Yeah, the two years from now signing a

502
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 6: two hundred and fifteen million dollar deal. That sounds about

503
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 6: right to me. I think that would be his option.

504
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 6: You signed five of those. You just made a billion dollars.

505
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm sorry you signed four of those.

506
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 4: Jeez, I can't even mess. You signed four of those?

507
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 4: He made a billion. Well, let's go five.

508
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 6: You're text you have a billion dollars cash hold cash

509
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 6: in the bank account. You you go up to ms bus,

510
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 6: you approach her, and you say, hey, i'd like to

511
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 6: buy the team. I just I'm ready, I've got a

512
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 6: bill in the bank account, I can eat transfer you

513
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 6: right now. Let's get this done. So, yeah, that sounds

514
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 6: like a lot of money. It sounds like a plan.

515
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 6: He'll only be twenty nine at that time, so he'll

516
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 6: definitely get five years and uh and that's that. That'll

517
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 6: be his payday man. Man, imagine the SPA sessions. You

518
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 6: can have pluck in that eyebrow for two.

519
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: Hundred Yeah wow, well yeah, he goes for it. Man,

520
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: he's on top of the world right now. First championship.

521
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: It's the brow, I think put them up. Yeah, it's

522
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: it's his branding.

523
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: It's him.

524
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: It's his branding.

525
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 6: It is.

526
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: But they don't really do a lot of work with

527
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: it though. Either.

528
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Speaker 2: I feel like, am I wrong? I mean, you've got

529
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Speaker 2: the mobile commercial where he's spinning ten basketballs on a

530
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: little shelf. You can't even see his brow.

531
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Speaker 3: He's so small in that.

532
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: And then' like what else is there? I mean they

533
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: they haven't leaned into the brow, is my point, because

534
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: we thought they would. And I'm with you. I remember

535
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: we did this question like should he shave it or not?

536
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: Like years ago, and like I was like, no, no, no,

537
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: that's you man. You got to own that.

538
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: But I feel they've wasted it. So take it off.

539
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: You're not going to use it, man, give it to

540
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: somebody else.

541
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Speaker 6: But then there'll just be another basketball player, another two

542
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: eyebrow basketball player.

543
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 4: I don't think, well, he used two eyebrows for his advantage.

544
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 6: I don't know.

545
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm been disappointed that we haven't seen

546
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: some funnier, quirkier commercials with the eyebrow. I feel like

547
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Twitter's done the work. They've had the gifts you're talking

548
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: about gifts Lee, the one where his eyebrow like turned

549
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: into a.

550
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: Bird and flies off.

551
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.

552
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: But what do you think about AD's deal with the Lakers?

553
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: I made like you're splitting hands really on, You're like.

554
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: This splitting eyebrow.

555
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, does this guy want like two hundred and forty

556
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: million or two hundred and fifty or two hundred and

557
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 5: sixty million. I mean, it doesn't really mean. The only

558
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 5: thing that can really stop any of this as if

559
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 5: he does suffer a significant injury, and he is someone

560
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: who has picked up some injuries over his career, and

561
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 5: it can happen. We've seen, you know, Grand Hill and

562
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 5: Penny Hardaway. There's enough examples of it where careers can

563
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: be derailed like that. So if you're Anthony Davis, do

564
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: you want to just maybe have a little bit more

565
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: security now, just in case I personally would I'd probably

566
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 5: go for the two plus one. But then again, maybe

567
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: his agent is saying, listen, we want to get the

568
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: absolute maximum we can out of every contract. In that case,

569
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 5: we'll just take the one plus one for now, and

570
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 5: we'll sort of keep doing that until we get to

571
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Speaker 5: that point where it's worth it to lock up for

572
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: a longer term. So you know, I mean that's he's

573
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 5: going to get paid one way or the other by

574
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Speaker 5: someone over these next few years. He's going to get

575
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 5: a lot of Money's going to earn it, and he's

576
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 5: going to deserve it. So whichever one, I guess he

577
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 5: and his agents feel most comfortable with that will sort

578
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 5: of give.

579
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: Them a little bit of protection.

580
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: And whether or not as well, Anthony Davis, you know,

581
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 5: is prepared to give a little bit, leave a little

582
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 5: bit on the table to perhaps use it for other

583
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 5: free agents to keep the Lakers as content, because that's

584
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 5: that's something else he's going to have to consider. But

585
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: I sort of feel that Rich Paul there and the

586
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 5: Clutch agency are going to be more like, you get yours,

587
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 5: don't worry about the rest. We'll we'll figure the rest

588
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 5: out so you get as much as you can, because

589
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 5: that's kind of what we're all talking about. It's always like,

590
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 5: you know, Lebron's always had to sacrifice. Players always had

591
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 5: to sacrifice and leave money on the table. But you

592
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 5: shouldn't have to do that. It's on the The onus

593
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 5: is on the Lakers. If they have to spend into

594
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 5: the luxury tax to keep your competitive, that's what they're

595
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: going to have to do. So I I think he

596
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 5: probably does just go for the one plus one, even

597
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 5: though I would go for the two plus one.

598
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Speaker 2: This guy's my sleep well at night knowing their agent's

599
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: name is Rich right good helps Yeah, I like, yeah,

600
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: I like having money.

601
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Speaker 3: Mellow says, that's good. That's what you want. That's a

602
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: good thing. Rich All right, great, let's get to work. Well,

603
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: not to mention, I'm here and task just like rat

604
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: off these numbers. I'm like, Wow, Anthony Davis is not

605
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: even twenty nine yet and tass is figuring out away

606
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: from them make a billion. Yeah, he's probably sleeping pretty easy,

607
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: especially if you saw those pictures of him having tacos

608
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: out in La. Now that he's back home, he's going

609
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: to bed super easy.

610
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Speaker 2: Ooh, I haven't seen these photos, but I have an

611
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: idea of what you're talking. All right, We got lots

612
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Speaker 2: more still to get to here on the updown report,

613
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Speaker 2: but first a quick break to hear from our sponsors.

614
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Speaker 3: All right, Next.

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Speaker 2: One, Tylu has agreed to a five year deal to

616
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Speaker 2: become the next head coach of the LA Clippers. According

617
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Speaker 2: to WOJ, Lou has had significant support among key Clippers

618
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 2: players in this process, and Chauncy Phillips, by the way,

619
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Speaker 2: is expected to join Lou's staff. He'll be an assistant.

620
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: So upper down on Lou leading the Clippers to a title.

621
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Speaker 2: That's how I'm spinning this one task.

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Speaker 6: Upper down, one hundred percent. They definitely have a great,

623
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Speaker 6: great shot. I'm happy for tyl Lou. This is the

624
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 6: time of year we talk about contracts, and this is

625
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 6: a move that turned out well for him. He turned

626
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 6: down three years from the eventual champion Lakers last year.

627
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 6: At this time, now he signs a five year deal.

628
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: Good for him. He wanted a longer deal than three years.

629
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: So this is a move that turned out well. And

630
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 6: this is a team that's right up his alley, Like

631
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 6: when he took control of the Cleveland Cavaliers when they

632
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 6: were thirty and eleven and Lebron at the Helm. They're

633
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 6: right on the verge. This team is right on the verge.

634
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 6: He's forty three. Maybe if he asks for a little

635
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 6: bit of a race, he can buy the Clippers from

636
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 6: Steve Balmer in seventeen years now. I'm kidding, but this

637
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 6: is listen. Doc Rivers maybe could have made it work

638
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: if they had the full season together. It was a

639
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 6: team that had guys in and out of the lineup.

640
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 6: And so this is a different team than Cleveland because

641
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: in that locker room in Cleveland you had Lebron, you

642
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 6: had guys that were more vocal. And yeah, Patrick Beverly

643
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: is in this Clippers locker room, so is Montrez Harrow.

644
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 6: But the leaders, the best players aren't the same. So

645
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 6: it's going to be a bit more of a challenge.

646
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 6: I don't want to just type cast ty Lewins to

647
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 6: say he only takes control of teams that are right

648
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 6: on the verge. This is going to be a different

649
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: challenge for him. I think johncy Billips coming in is

650
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 6: only going to help a guy who did play for

651
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 6: the Clippers once upon a time, obviously, a guy who

652
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: won a championship as the Pistons and best player or

653
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call him, so he can help

654
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 6: in that regard. It could have been Doc Rivers team

655
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 6: to take to the title, but this now Tylu, I

656
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 6: don't think there's any doubt for me that he could

657
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 6: take them to the title, even though it is a

658
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 6: slightly different group. But I do judge Tyleru as a

659
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 6: good coach and that experience in Cleveland could have only

660
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 6: helped him.

661
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: What's the most important task Lee for lou to do

662
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: here in the immediate future here with the Clippers, to

663
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: get them to the title? What like, what one thing

664
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: do you think he needs to improve?

665
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's Poe, George and Kawhi Lenna get

666
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: them on the same page, because I don't think they

667
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: were and they were on.

668
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: The same page with each other or with the other guys.

669
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 5: Well, a bit of both, probably, to be honest, a

670
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: little bit of both, because it seems like they both

671
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: got really super preferential treatment which rubbed the other players

672
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: up the wrong way, but also within themselves. Between Paul

673
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: and Kawhi, I don't think they had a great relationship

674
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 5: this season either. They're both super superstar players. I mean,

675
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: Paul George we talked about last season finished third in

676
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: MVP voting, so that shows just how good he can be.

677
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: And Kawhi Leanna. We know he's great, But those two guys,

678
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 5: I felt in that in the series, particularly against Denvert,

679
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 5: were sort of pointing the finger a bit of each other.

680
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 5: They didn't really know whose team it was. So I

681
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: think it's building that sort of bond if you like it,

682
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 5: and bringing those two together, because it starts with your

683
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: two stars. If he can do that and realize the

684
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: potential of this Clipper's team, because he's only really got

685
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: one year here to get it right. I mean, I

686
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: know they've got options on their contracts, but I sort

687
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: of fear that if they don't get it right next season,

688
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 5: then maybe one of them's gone. Anyway after that, who knows.

689
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: I mean, things could quickly spiral out of control. So,

690
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's a smart move, you know,

691
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: Tyler taking a team that is has got all this

692
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: talent and potent and the expectations, because that's what you want.

693
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: You don't want to have to start at a team

694
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: where you have to build it up. I think it's

695
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: better to be in this position. But now the challenge

696
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 5: is making sure you get the best out of all

697
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: this talent. And because they've gone all in as well,

698
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: the Clippers here, you know, they've given up a lot

699
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: of their draft picks here, Sam Prest he's got all

700
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 5: those as well. It's quite incredible. But it's now or never.

701
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 5: So if Tyler you can get those guys together immediately

702
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: and start performing to their level, then I think the

703
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: Clippers are a championship contender. But if there's still that

704
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: same sort of lingering tension or bitterness between those players,

705
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: then it might be a weird season, another weird season

706
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: there in Clippers Land. So I think that's the biggest

707
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: challenge he's facing.

708
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: Trey.

709
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of guys coaches come in first

710
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: year boom title. I mean, we saw it with Vogel,

711
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Nurse Lou himself. Can Lou do it again? What do

712
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: you think of the of the Clippers' chances here and

713
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: next season to win a tatle.

714
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm always skeptical of just pulling it an assistant ups

715
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: because you know when a team is when things are

716
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: going poorly and that assistant coach is there, I'm like,

717
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: why didn't you say something at the time. Man, that's

718
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: what it kind of reads to me. But like you're saying,

719
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: teams have had success with it, Tylu specifically, But I

720
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: really don't think the Clippers are going to win a

721
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: championship until they changed their name. So this is a

722
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: little bit of window dressing here, but Lee is one

723
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: hundred percent right. It's all about accountability from your star players.

724
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: Ty Lou's most famous coaching moment with the Cavs was

725
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: calling out Lebron at Game seven halftime twenty sixteen. He said,

726
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: you need to start playing better, and Lebron said, Hey,

727
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: how dare you say that's me? Wait, you're right, I

728
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: should start playing better. He went out and they went

729
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: the championship, and that was all of the respect that

730
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: Tylu gets and needs, because if you're able to call

731
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: out Lebron in the biggest game of his career, you've

732
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: got some balls and you've got some gravitas, and that's

733
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: three quarters of the battle. There's going to be, no doubt,

734
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: tactical things he needs to do. He did a great

735
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: job with j R. Smith, turning him into a real flamethrower.

736
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: Same with Kyle Korver. There was a lot of movement there,

737
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: and I think he just really held his stars accountable.

738
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: Lebron Kevin Love. He got a lot more out of

739
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 3: as a third option, a guy who is learning how

740
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: to become a third option after being the number one

741
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: guy in Minnesota for such a long time. I think

742
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna help. I think tylu is so well respected

743
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: by players on his team on other teams that you

744
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: have to imagine the chemistry is gonna be a little

745
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: bit better. But the Lakers are still in the same conference.

746
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be easy. They got to improve, there's

747
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. They have a lot of decisions

748
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: to make as well. I think there's definitely a schism

749
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: between the team that lost in the first round in

750
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and the stars that came in in twenty twenty.

751
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: They got to figure out a way to meld those

752
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: and a lot of that comes down to actually playing

753
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: together in the regular season. You need Kawhi Leonard to

754
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: actually be a superstar for your team for six months

755
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: rather than just two months. So Tylu I do think

756
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: he can get that out of him. He's been around

757
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: stars for basically his entire NBA career, whether it be

758
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 3: as a player, as an assistant coach or as a

759
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: head coach. So he knows what he's doing. But he's

760
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: got a tall task ahead of him. And he's a

761
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: short guy.

762
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he is a bit of a tinier guy

763
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: in the NBA world, he is. I guess we don't

764
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: know if Mantres Harrell will be there or you know,

765
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: what they do with Lou Williams and stuff like that.

766
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: But the truth is this is a damn good offensive

767
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: team already, so he doesn't need to do a whole

768
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: lot I think on that, and you're right. Some more

769
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: movement will always help, you know. Just play a play

770
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: a freer, sexier version of basketball and people are gonna

771
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: be happier. I'm sure I get more shots and stuff

772
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: like that, so I'm sure he'll implement that. But this team,

773
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: on paper should be the best defensive team in the league.

774
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: That's what we thought. They added Kawhi and Paul George

775
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: to you know, Patrick Beverly and other guys were decent

776
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: and were like, oh my god, who's going to score

777
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: on them? That was never really the case. They were good,

778
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: not elite defensively. They were fifth, I think Pelton said

779
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: fifth in defensive rating in the regular season seventh in

780
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Okay, it's good, it's not great. It should

781
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: be great. Now there are a hole, especially when we

782
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: lose out there.

783
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: I get that.

784
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: But if they could get that up and become one

785
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: of the you know, the top two, top three teams

786
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: and just really focus on that end, then hell yeah,

787
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: they're a nightmare, especially if you just keep that offense

788
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: with the way it is.

789
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

790
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: I think that's what like the important task is that

791
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: get that defense to what it really should be when

792
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: you have Kawhi and Paul George in today's game, to

793
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: just lock down wing defenders.

794
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: Now, maybe you.

795
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Play zobots a lot more, who obviously I think Doc

796
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: Rivers got he sort of raked over the Cols a

797
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: little bit for maybe not playing him as much as

798
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: he should have in the playoffs because he was pretty

799
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: damn decent for them, and maybe Loull we'll decide to

800
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: do that. So I'm high on the Clippers' chances. Again,

801
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: you're right, not gonna be easy with the Lakers and

802
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: the Warriors and still good teams in the West, but

803
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: they're right there, and Lewis done it before and if

804
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 2: he can get these superstars to play together and meld

805
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: with those other guys like you said that were already there,

806
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: or new guys that even come in, then yeah, I

807
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: mean they're gonna be a gonna be a tough out.

808
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: So we will see what Luke can do. I like

809
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: the Billups is in the mix here too. He wants

810
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: to be a head coach, so he's going to start

811
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: here as an assistant coach, which is sort of cool,

812
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: or at least rumors say.

813
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: That next one.

814
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: Recently a lot of rumors connecting Jannis and the Miami Heat,

815
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: So yesterday the Athletics Shum Shuan reported that the Heat

816
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: are preparing to go all in on their pursu of

817
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: the two time MVP.

818
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: As most of you know.

819
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is eligible to lock up the Greek Freak with

820
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: a Supermax contract when free agency begins this fall, so

821
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: we see if that happens. But Lee up or down

822
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: on pat Riley's chances here to get the Greek Freak

823
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: in South Beach.

824
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: Up or down? Oh, I'd be very careful when pat

825
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: Riley comes knocking on your door, because you know he

826
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: gets things done. But the thing with Greek Freak is

827
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: he's staying in Milwaukee, he's going to the Warriors, and

828
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: he's going to the Raptors because of the Messiahs jury connection.

829
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: And now he's also going to Miami to join the

830
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: Miami Heat. So look, there's gonna be the way that

831
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 5: Yannis can end these rumors very quickly is, as you say, there,

832
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 5: sign that super max contract and then all those rumors

833
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: go just down the toilet straight away. But I don't

834
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: think he's going to do that. I think he is

835
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: going to wait and see what happens this season, and

836
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: I feel I just feel he wants to sort of

837
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: play a little bit of that card there where he's like,

838
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: I wanted to see how things work out here because

839
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 5: he can still sign it. Of course next season as well,

840
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 5: he'll be unrestricted at that point, so the Bucks would

841
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: use him for nothing. I don't think they would trade

842
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: him if he doesn't sign it. So I think he

843
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: probably does hold off. But the thing with pat Riley is,

844
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: you know he gets things done. He's not called the

845
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: Godfather for no reason, so you know that if he

846
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: gets a chance to talk to Yannis, he's going to

847
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: have a very very strong case he might do what

848
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: he did with Lebron and just throw those championship rings

849
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: on the table basically in their first meeting. You know,

850
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: he's got the respect of course, Eric Spolstra there, we

851
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: know he's a very well respected coach. Jimmy Butler is

852
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 5: going to talk so much about the organization and the culture,

853
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: the heat culture there. So they're going to have a

854
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 5: strong case. But you know the Raptors are going to

855
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 5: have a strong case. The Warriors are going to have

856
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: a strong case. So you know it's going to be

857
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: a big decision here for Yannis depending on what he

858
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: wants to do. And as I say, does he sign

859
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: that contract? I think probably not. That's my guess right now.

860
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 5: It could be wrong, could be wrong. Hopefully I'm not.

861
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: But I think he's just going to hold off and

862
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 5: just see. Because the Bucks ownership have said we are

863
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: prepared to spend into the luxury tax, Sonis is going

864
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: to say to them, Okay, let's see it. Let's see

865
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: what you do in this offseason. Let's see who you

866
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: bring in first, and then I can decide if I'm

867
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 5: going to sign that big, big contract.

868
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 6: Okay, what do you think, Cass, Yeah, I think it's

869
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 6: one year run here for the Milwaukee Bucks to show

870
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 6: him that they're really dedicated, to show him that there

871
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 6: are other players that are going to come support him.

872
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 4: I think he's talked about it.

873
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 6: He even he hinted after he left the bubble on

874
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: social media and he had a conversation with the Bucks

875
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 6: co owner Mike Mark Lasry about improving the roster in

876
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 6: the future. They weren't talking about a contract, they were

877
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 6: talking about trying to make this roster better. So they

878
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: really have a one year window. Otherwise pat Riley will

879
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 6: be at the front of the line, and I think

880
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 6: there is a chance that he leaves, but he's got

881
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: They have to show him not only can they get

882
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 6: a good player this year.

883
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: In the offseason, there will.

884
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 6: Be trade rumors and I think they will be talking

885
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 6: to other teams about bringing a star in, but also

886
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: building something for the future and that that looks a

887
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 6: little bit brighter than it does currently because it doesn't

888
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: look bright. There has to be some movement. It can't

889
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 6: just be we're working on things. We're working on things.

890
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's Chris Paul, but it has

891
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: to be. It has to be something. There has to

892
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: be something or else. Yeah, I do think that he

893
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: will leave at some point if things aren't changed, he

894
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 6: said it.

895
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: I don't.

896
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 6: I don't think he is, you know, holding things back.

897
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 6: I don't think he's playing any games. He's He's said

898
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 6: so much he has said that I will not be

899
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: around if things aren't different. I want things to be

900
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 6: different around here. So that's that's what it has to be.

901
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 6: And there's a reason why he hasn't signed the contract

902
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 6: because he's going to wait to do that.

903
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Trey up or down on Riley coaxing, You're honest down there,

904
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I think it's possible.

905
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: Whatever the Bucks do, they need to make sure that

906
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: they do not sign anybody that has ever played for

907
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. That happened to the Bulls. They signed

908
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: and Dwaydon Wade. He showed up. He said, Jimmy Butler, man,

909
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be like this. You can come

910
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: to a place where everybody works hard and wants to

911
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: be the man next thing. You know, Jimmy Butler's doing

912
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: everything he can to be a Miami Heat. So if

913
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: a Miami Heat of an ex Heat signs with the Bucks,

914
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: you can lock Giannis in to South Beach. But seriously,

915
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: I would be a little nervous if I'm Miami about

916
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: testing Heat culture here, because they are going to be

917
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: messing around with Bam out of Ailes contract, with which

918
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: you know he's surely gonna still get paid in the future,

919
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: but they want to wait for him. They want to

920
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: to keep their powder dry and have as much cap

921
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: space as they possibly can for that summer when Yannis

922
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: becomes a free agent. They're gonna do the same thing

923
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: with Dragitch to try and keep a little bit of flexibility.

924
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: And those are two major key components for the Heat's

925
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: success this season. Dragitch was an All Star in the past,

926
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Bam was this year. The chemistry was incredible down in Miami,

927
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: and now you're messing with some guys who just got

928
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: you to the finals because you want to bring in

929
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: somebody from outside. It probably works out fine for the Heat.

930
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they don't sign Giannis and it's not a big deal.

931
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: They're still able to bring back Bam, they still bring

932
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: back Dragage. They're still a good team. Maybe Victor Oladipo

933
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: is the next star that they bring in. But you

934
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: do risk some things when you tell players who are

935
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: already in your building to wait for their money because

936
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: we're saving money for some guy that we think is

937
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: better than you. Is basically what you're saying. You know.

938
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: That was the first strike against Kawhi Leonard leaving the

939
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: San Antonio Spurs. They told him, wait, we'll sign you

940
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: to a huge extension after we get LaMarcus Aldridge. Same

941
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: thing with Gordon Hayward, same thing with Kevin Love. There

942
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: are these little tiny moves that don't seem like they're

943
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: a big deal because you're like, oh, who cares one

944
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million, one hundred and eighty million, it's

945
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: all the same. No, that's thirty million dollars you're messing

946
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: with here. So things could flip poorly for pat Riley,

947
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: but that rarely happens. That's just like when you sign

948
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: Dion Waiters or Hassan Whiteside to a massive contract, You're

949
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: gonna strike out sometimes, but not all the time.

950
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll triple down on my prediction that Jannis does

951
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: stay in Milwaukee and he does sign the Supermax contract,

952
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: and I'll say it happens. Actually, you know, this offseason,

953
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: I think he does do it because I thought it

954
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: was still telling to me that Budenholzer, you know, wasn't

955
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: cut and they moved on and we'll try to find

956
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: something new and improved in the coaching department.

957
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: That was a little shocking to me. So you know,

958
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: to me, that says honest on board with Budenholzer, still

959
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: on board with the Bucks front office and their plans.

960
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: And you guys could be right. He still could be like, hey,

961
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: well let's see show me and then I'll sign.

962
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I feel the honest is just

963
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: it's a little built a little differently. So I think

964
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: he ultimately signs this huge, huge deal. But then again,

965
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: maybe this pandemic and the salary cap maybe you know,

966
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: stagnating or going down. Even that is screwing with long

967
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: term money. So it's even in your best interest if

968
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: you're an MVP like caliber guy that you wait, we'll see.

969
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: But I guess I'm just trying to like build the

970
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Bucks fans up here a little bit.

971
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: I think he's staying. I think he's staying.

972
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: But man, it'd be scary with pat Riley trying to

973
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: get in your ear and trying to get you down

974
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: in Miami.

975
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: That would that's not fun. That's not fun.

976
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh and then besides Usuria at that and of course

977
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: the Warriors that too. Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting

978
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: year if he's definitely doesn't sign that Supermax contract. Oh

979
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: my goodness, four bucks hits well. Speaking of Miami, our

980
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: next one is a fun one. This one's great. This week,

981
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: photos of a couple's engagement caught Dwayne Wade accidentally photo

982
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: bombing the proposal on a beach in California. Instagram user

983
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: at Ryan Bash wrote, when at Dwayne Wade happens to

984
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: be taking a sunset stroll on the beach and walks

985
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: by mid proposal, You see him there in the back, Yeah,

986
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: zoom in enhance, his hand over his heart. He just

987
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: caught this beautiful moment.

988
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: I love.

989
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: That's my favorite pick of the bunch. There him, him

990
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: witnessing this, just love in the air on the beach.

991
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: That must have been a little chilly guy a sweater.

992
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: I don't know he took a photo.

993
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: With them so up or down on a celebrity crashing

994
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: your engagement photos, Trey It it started sometime.

995
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: Most people don't know about this picture. As both of

996
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: those both of those people in that couple, they both

997
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 3: signed with the Miami Heat. Wade was telling the man

998
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: everybody works hard down there. You guys will stay married forever.

999
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: You'll get some rings, no doubt about it. I'm up

1000
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: on this. If a celebrity wanders into your engagement pictures,

1001
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: it actually makes your engagement pictures worth it, because when

1002
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: you're buying an engagement photo, you're basically buying a trailer,

1003
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: like the engagement's not gonna be the most important part

1004
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: of what's going down in this relationship. Either you're gonna

1005
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: have these engagement photos and then you break up and

1006
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: you hate the pictures, or you're gonna have the engagement

1007
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: photos and then you get married and maybe one of

1008
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: them makes it into your wedding album. This makes it special.

1009
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: They should have a cameo for this. A celebrity to

1010
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: wander into your picture accidentally. We don't necessarily need a

1011
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: happy birthday shout out from Dwayne Wade, but if it

1012
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: looks like he just happens to wander through your engagement photos,

1013
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: that's huge. I wanted to invite Tom Green to my

1014
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: high school graduation. There was no way to do it.

1015
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: There should be a way to get a celebrity to

1016
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: show up to your house so it looks like an accident.

1017
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so what about Enthusio.

1018
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: That's a good boy. That's a good boy. Maybe this

1019
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: was enthusias Let me check the rates. Okay, so wow,

1020
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: I hadn't a thought of it.

1021
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: But you want Yeah, you want some sort of service

1022
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: here where you can actually order? Who would you want?

1023
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: Trey?

1024
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: Right now?

1025
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, I have two questions. Did you get does of

1026
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: anyone here on this call? Does anybody have engagement photos?

1027
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: I took engagement photos. Laura and I sat for photos.

1028
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: We didn't buy any of them.

1029
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, correct me?

1030
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: I wrong? Do you have engagement photos?

1031
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: Right?

1032
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: I don't, Lee, I assume you don't.

1033
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: You were proposing to your wife from a phone booth

1034
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: on the other side of the world.

1035
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, photos.

1036
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was running out of money in that phone calls,

1037
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: I get the I had to get the yes from

1038
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: the n I have to hang up. So yeah, no

1039
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 5: photos from.

1040
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: Us and JD.

1041
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: I I'm ninety nine percent sure you do not have

1042
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: engagement photos.

1043
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: Oh hell.

1044
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 7: Right, Lee, I'm surprised that you didn't get like somebody

1045
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 7: to take a photo like outside the phone, Like, just

1046
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: to excuse me, make could you just take a picture

1047
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 7: of me beside this phone booth? I just got engaged.

1048
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: You know, it was before the smartphone. Hear a j uh,

1049
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: I just didn't have the camera on me at all times.

1050
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 5: But now, I mean you probably couldn't even do that anymore.

1051
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: To phone boots even exist anywhere.

1052
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: I mean you seeing them every once in a while.

1053
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if they work, but yeah, they're.

1054
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: Like a zuba. It's a wild bar. They're sort of around,

1055
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: but you got to catch them both. It'd be a

1056
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: great photo of you, Yeah, just standing there like classically

1057
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: a big puffy jacket that's out of a phone booth.

1058
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: Now, hang on, it was it was April in London,

1059
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: so it would have been a light spring cabet.

1060
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you for clarifying, Lee. Are you up

1061
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: and down on this? And then I want to ask

1062
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: you what celebrity if you had engagement photos, what celebrity

1063
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: would you love to be in the background to a

1064
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: photo by me?

1065
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: Well, I'll start with that one, Denzel Washington. I'd love

1066
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: to have him there because that'd be just awesome, wouldn't it.

1067
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: I mean to make the day, But yeah, I thought

1068
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 5: it was beautiful because it was such a heartfelt, genuine

1069
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: moment there from Dwayne Wade his reaction, you know, his

1070
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 5: hand on his heart there or the joy that I mean,

1071
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: that is a beautiful photo. The only question is the

1072
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 5: girl is blurred out in that photo and Dwayne is

1073
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: in focus. So whoever's taking that photo was like, oh

1074
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: this Dwayne Wade.

1075
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, you know, not like, oh.

1076
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 5: Look at this my wife, you know, my wife to

1077
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: be is so happy, instead.

1078
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 3: Of like, oh man, Dwayne Waite.

1079
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 5: Awesome, But look at and what a nice stroll Dwayne

1080
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: Wade's got there. He's got the hand in the I'm

1081
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: prepared to put Dwayne Wade in the David Beckham category

1082
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: of just like cool swave no matter what he's wearing,

1083
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 5: no matters what he's doing, looks great, always always seems

1084
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: to hit a home run, no matter what he's doing.

1085
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: All right, big big thumbs up from Lee Tass What

1086
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: about you?

1087
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: Oh of course, And there's a reason why she's not

1088
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 6: in focus because they're taking a billion photos and as

1089
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 6: we've sort of hinted at engagement photos, yeah, you take

1090
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: a thousand, you might like ten. So even the photographer's board,

1091
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna start getting things in the background. I mean, like,

1092
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: do you use them. You don't use them a lot,

1093
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: and I'm okay with them not having masks on in

1094
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: the in the three shot there where they worried about

1095
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 6: Dwayne Wade giving them the RONA, probably not. I think

1096
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: this is a time where you take a chance and

1097
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: you say, you know what we want the photo, we

1098
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 6: want the ideal photo. If you want to remember the time,

1099
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 6: you could have taken another one with the mask. I'm

1100
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 6: sure Dwane Wade would have been very generous with this

1101
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 6: time and thrown on a mask as well. But that's

1102
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 6: a that's a great shot right there of the three

1103
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 6: of them.

1104
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: I guess the engagement photos alike, when you win the

1105
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 5: Western Conference finals all the Easton Conference finals, you put

1106
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: the T shirt on, you celebrate, but it's not really

1107
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: what you're celebrating, is you know? You know what's gonna say,

1108
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 5: I'll show me your engagement photos after your wedding? Are they?

1109
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm actually very naive here, Like what

1110
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: do you even use them for? I guess for the wedding,

1111
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: like the build up to the wedding. You put them

1112
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: on a website, the invitation, yeah, maybe the paper yeah

1113
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: yeah right, because like and I guess maybe you frame

1114
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: one or like you said, does one slip into the

1115
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: wedding album?

1116
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: I mean you know it's like, uh.

1117
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: I guess you could do that that that Yeah, that

1118
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 5: meme now is like how it started, how it's going on?

1119
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, well I would think how it started

1120
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: should be your first photo when you started.

1121
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1122
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, But people are sort of mixing it up a

1123
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: little bit there because of some of it's how it started,

1124
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: how it ended, but you don't want to end it

1125
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: if it's still going So it's how it's going out today.

1126
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so you at Denzel Washington, I want

1127
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: to ask the other guys jdu as well, but tasks

1128
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: who would you who would you love if you took

1129
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: an engagement photo with Danielle? Who would you love to have?

1130
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: What celebrity just wandering in the background would make it?

1131
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: John Legend twinkling in the back?

1132
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 6: No, I think, uh hm hmmm. I got to think

1133
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 6: about this. I need somebody good John.

1134
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: I love John obviously.

1135
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: Okay, well you think about it.

1136
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: You have an answer to Tom Hanks to cruise three

1137
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: Toms wandering in the back Cruise Hanks and uh Green,

1138
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Haberstrow Instrow.

1139
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: And JD. Do you have an answer?

1140
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go Tom Green too, because I can't

1141
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 7: have I can't have anyone sexier than me, you know

1142
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 7: what I mean. And I think that he's one guy

1143
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 7: that I think I'm on par with at least, you

1144
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 7: know what I mean, like like in the sexiness department. Way,

1145
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 7: we can throw it down to two of us. You know,

1146
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 7: my wife, My wife is very vocal about who she

1147
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 7: finds sexy, which is literally everybody.

1148
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: So I probably wouldn't know, but everybody except for Tom Green. Yeah,

1149
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. She's not here.

1150
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 7: She probably finds him attractive, though she likes Seth Green.

1151
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, she's you know, anybody with facial hair she likes.

1152
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: So okay, I saw it Tom Green recently. I don't

1153
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: know why I watched this YouTube clip, but he was

1154
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: on the Drew Barrymore Show because they hadn't talked. Did

1155
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: I already share this story on the podcast.

1156
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: Tom Green Fairy?

1157
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: You guys were like, I already told you this, but anyway, Yeah,

1158
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: I saw it come up on a Youtubel YouTube algorithm

1159
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: for some reason, probably because Trey had been talking about

1160
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Tom Green, and I started thinking about it and looking

1161
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: at old clubs. Anyway, he was on the Drew Barrymore Show,

1162
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: and I guess they hadn't seen each other in like

1163
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: fifteen years. The hadn't talked in fifteen years.

1164
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 5: If I'm married, Yeah, yes, yeah.

1165
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: It was actually really sweet, like, you know, it was cool.

1166
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: I watched the whole damn clip. I was like, oh,

1167
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: this is nice. You know, they were catching up like

1168
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: on not live television, but whatever on this show and

1169
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: they were just talking each other up and how weird,

1170
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: not weird, but like, yeah, they were married, but then

1171
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: they went their separate ways and just never talk to

1172
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: each other. But we're sort of friends. It's really weird. Anyway,

1173
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: you look just as good as him as him JD.

1174
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: That's the point of the story.

1175
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

1176
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 7: I'll take that as a massive compliment.

1177
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay, you look just as good as Tom Green.

1178
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: Fantastic to think of anyone.

1179
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 6: Weird weird Al Yankovich, that's a good one, very really good.

1180
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: Huh.

1181
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 7: I think yeah, I think I'm sex hid and weird.

1182
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: Now, oh easily. Yeah, it's Tom who's sexier? Tom Green

1183
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: or weird?

1184
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: As get the Paul up.

1185
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: I think Tom Green is Tom Green, but I haven't

1186
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: seen weird Alan.

1187
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was backed recently with something I thought we

1188
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: had a Yeah, what a career. He's mate.

1189
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Those guys definitely will make the pole go up.

1190
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: Let's think we're gonna get to a bunch of Jerseys

1191
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: talk because we have the Nets and the Raptors. But

1192
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: let's take one more quick break. Okay, Jerseys, Brooklyn Nets

1193
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: bringing back some nineties fashion for next season. On Wednesday,

1194
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: the team unveiled its Nike Classic Edition jerseys, red white

1195
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: and blue with that tie die pattern. Everybody on the

1196
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: stream team are seeing the photos right now. They pay

1197
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: homage to the Nets roots in New Jersey. There's the shorts.

1198
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: Look these bad boys, scream draws and Petrovitch and Derek Coleman,

1199
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: Kenny Anderson, stuff like that. But what do you think, Trey?

1200
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: Are you up or down on the nets nineties throwbacks?

1201
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: We're seeing here?

1202
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: Two thumbs up? Call me Lee Ellis. These despite not

1203
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: being solid at all, are very very solid. And the

1204
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: awesome thing is that the Nets worthies. I'm think for

1205
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: one season ninety ninety one only, they're going to bring

1206
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: him back this year, you know, thirty years later. I

1207
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: suppose very cool We're riding a tie Die wave, no

1208
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: doubt about it. It's at the peak, it's at the crest.

1209
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: You gotta get it in now, and there's no player

1210
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: I would like to see wearing tie Die more than

1211
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving, a guy who's just a new age philosopher

1212
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: out there. He looks like somebody who should be wearing

1213
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: tie and it looks awesome. These are great. People are

1214
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: gonna love him. We haven't seen him forever. My only

1215
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: question are they going to do a weird floor to

1216
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: match it? Are they going to do something along the

1217
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: lines of you know, they rolled out their gray floor

1218
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: last year to kind of match their gray graffiti styled uniforms,

1219
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: so maybe they go with the tie die floor. They've

1220
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: done weirder things with their court.

1221
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: These are great, though, Okay, tass, so you sums up.

1222
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: I know your wife Danielle, huge Nets fan back in

1223
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: the day, she love these.

1224
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 6: I think they're great. I'm so happy they brought the

1225
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 6: Chris Dudley jerseys back. I think he's These are phenomenal.

1226
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 6: I think they keep hitting home runs. I've loved the

1227
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 6: throwbacks to the ABA Julius Irving days with the stars

1228
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 6: down the side the Nets just keep hitting home runs.

1229
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 6: These are these are great. And yeah, of course you

1230
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: think draws and you think Derek Coleman a little bit

1231
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 6: if you're if you are a hardcore back in the day.

1232
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think they're phenomenal. I was, I was

1233
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 6: a little surprised. I thought they were a little bit

1234
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 6: more solid blue, a solid light blue.

1235
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think there was a version of them as well,

1236
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, like there's this.

1237
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: Ti diversion and then there is a normal, more solid

1238
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: one that you're thinking of task.

1239
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 5: I'm pretty confident, like a light blue solid one.

1240
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like just less tie dial blue.

1241
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what task is saying, because I'm pretty sure

1242
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: there was, like I remember Kenny Anderson playing in a

1243
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: more of a just straight up blue Nets Jersey.

1244
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 6: I love I love skinny Derek Coleman anyways, looking back

1245
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 6: at skinny Derek, because he looked like a different man

1246
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 6: than when he was a man.

1247
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: So the Nets relocated to Brooklyn in twenty twelve, I

1248
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: think it leslie and they've basically been the black and

1249
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 2: white color scheme. So this is like a little jarring

1250
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: because it's obviously you know, they're not in New Jersey

1251
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: and these are new jersey nets uniforms.

1252
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: So what do you think? Are you thumbs up for

1253
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: sums down on this throwback?

1254
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a good one. You know, they've they've basically

1255
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 5: just gone back to exactly what they had. They'll rocket out.

1256
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: It looks great. It's nice and colorful. But yeah, the

1257
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 5: nets jerseys, I don't remember them having a really bad one,

1258
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: to be honest. The their fonts, their fonts have always

1259
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: been pretty good.

1260
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: You like the Vince Carter nets days, Like you like

1261
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: those ones, I'm not a fan. A lot of gray,

1262
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: a lot of gray.

1263
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: Ah, yeah they're gray. Yeah, yeah, I mean they weren't

1264
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 5: too bad, I think, But you know, these people love

1265
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 5: these ones again, because I think you're right, Trey. I

1266
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: think it was only one season they wore these specific

1267
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: Ti Die version of it. And I'm surprised we haven't

1268
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 5: seen them before because I don't remember seeing them. Pray

1269
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 5: when you know, when the big throwbacks came back in

1270
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 5: like what five six years ago, when everyone started throwing

1271
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: them back, probably we didn't see them then, to be honest.

1272
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, but again, I think they were like in

1273
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: a weird spot where like we just moved from Brooklyn

1274
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: and we're trying to build our new identity and yeah,

1275
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: you like, we sort of missed the boat on all

1276
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: these fun throwbacks because of that timing, but now they

1277
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: are getting to it for the thirtieth anniversary.

1278
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: I like them too.

1279
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm a huge, huge Kenny Anderson fan, So that's what

1280
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: immediately I think of, and I love it even more

1281
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: because Kevin Durant is number seven. Kenny Anderson is number seven.

1282
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm contemplating getting Kevin Durant nets throwback

1283
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: to what's going on. I'm not doing that, but you know,

1284
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: I love Kenny Anderson that much that I thought about

1285
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: it for a second. But Coleman Drazen, I mean, those

1286
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: are the some of the heydays for the Nets, which I.

1287
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: Was insane to say. They've been around, been playing for

1288
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: thirty years since then. I've had some peaks, of course,

1289
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Speaker 3: but getting to the finals, but no one ever talks

1290
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Speaker 3: about that. No one ever talks about the Nets going

1291
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: to back to back finals, right, No, No, I always

1292
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: think they would. Did they go to back to back?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: Oh god, and myself, I'm catching myself thinking that can't

1295
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: be right.

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 5: That's great. They took the Spurs of six games. That

1298
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: was a two two series. Yeah right, right, right right.

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Speaker 3: A couple of good questions from the stream team. Brad

1300
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: beats and says, aren't these air brushed? And Isaac says,

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00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: I always thought it was supposed to be faded denim.

1302
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: This is true too. These could be faded denim, These

1303
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: could be airbrushed, these could be tied. I whatever they are,

1304
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: they're super nineties, very nineties.

1305
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: I love the nets like font like, I love that

1306
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: little like sort of New Jersey devil like that, and

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Speaker 2: I just think.

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00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: It looks awesome.

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: All right, red blue and white. There, let's hear from

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Speaker 2: you guys with all of these up or down on

1311
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: Twitter at no dunk sink and of course in the

1312
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Speaker 2: stream team, hopefully you guys are doing that as well.

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Speaker 2: Final one we'll stick with the jerseys task. We'll start

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Speaker 2: with you on Thursday. I don't know if you guys

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00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: can hear the Chipper Jones going off.

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: On Thursday, the Raptors unveiled three of their five uniforms

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00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: for next season, showcasing a simple but bold I think

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00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: we can call it design, the familiar north pointing chevron.

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Speaker 2: That's the key element. Here on all these that we've

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00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: seen that was first introduced back in like twenty fifteen sixteen,

1322
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: so they're running with that. We got a white one,

1323
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: a black one, and a red one as of now,

1324
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: and then black one's got the weird not weird. The

1325
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: old pin stripes that you saw on the dinal ones

1326
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: looks very bulls like a lot of people pointing out.

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: And there's the red one.

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Speaker 3: Tas what do you think? Up and down on the

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00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: raptors new looks so far again two more to come?

1330
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Speaker 3: But what do you think?

1331
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Speaker 4: I'm up? I am up.

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Speaker 6: I love mia chevron driving in the beautiful province of Ontario.

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00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 6: Got to keep two chevrons back, always got to keep

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00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 6: two chevrons back. Chevrons are everywhere in Ontario, so it

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00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 6: makes sense. But I have two different feelings. When I

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 6: see them on their own sometimes when they're laid out

1337
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 6: they get to get your little glamour photo. I don't

1338
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: like them as much. But when you see them on

1339
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 6: the players, I think they look a lot better. So

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 6: I think they will look a lot better on the floor.

1341
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 6: And yes, we got two more to come. I think

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Speaker 6: the black one is the best one. It's the statement jersey,

1343
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: the one with the little Jumpman logo that every team

1344
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 6: has as they're sort of third jersey. It's got those

1345
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 6: jagged pin stripes from the old Raptors' days. I think

1346
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 6: that one's great. I love it a lot. I don't

1347
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 6: need a chevron behind the letters that are already in

1348
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: the chevron oblige chevron right. I mean, this is Chevron's

1349
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 6: are for years of service in the army, et cetera.

1350
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 6: We've had twenty five years of service here for the

1351
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 6: Toronto Raptors.

1352
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: In the NBA.

1353
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: They have shown they don't need to show you to Chevron.

1354
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 6: It's right there. I mean that's I think that's a

1355
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 6: home run. I like that you need to see the

1356
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 6: thing behind it because I think that kind of takes

1357
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 6: away from from the white one. The white one is

1358
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 6: my least favorite. I gotta I gotta say.

1359
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Speaker 2: Wow, I disagree. I'm like flipped on this. I don't

1360
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: like the black ones and I love the white ones,

1361
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: so I guess you know, I Alway's got an opinion

1362
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: on these. I like those the most. I just feel

1363
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: the most Canadian to me, and they just seem the

1364
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: most clean. I need the chevron tasks. I don't like

1365
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: how those like letters are just not floating there. But

1366
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: without it, I don't know something about it looks weird

1367
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: to me, that one.

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Speaker 6: But what do you think, Look, it'll look different, It'll

1369
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 6: look better when it's when it's on a bod. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think I think the red ones, the red ones

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: are the one like, they're the inverted ones to me.

1372
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Speaker 6: For when they won the title, they had North on

1373
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 6: a chevron, uh, but they basically inverted it now to

1374
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 6: make it red and black, and they got they went

1375
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 6: with a little darker red. I think that's a sexy red.

1376
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 6: It's kind of like the Rockets red that they've changed to.

1377
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1378
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 6: And and I'm okay with going away from North. I'm

1379
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 6: done with that. We don't need North on a jersey anymore.

1380
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 6: I just should say Raptors. And yeah, I think the

1381
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 6: whole package is good. I like the red one a.

1382
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: Lot, and the two that are rumored to be coming

1383
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: are probably an Ovo one, which will probably be gold

1384
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: you would think, like gold and white and black or whatever.

1385
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: And then everyone's pretty convined, pretty sure there's gonna be

1386
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: a purple one too, like back to the back to

1387
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: the inaugural season in some form, and that's probably they're

1388
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: probably waiting on those two. They might be the cool

1389
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: the two coolest ones, and that's why you release these

1390
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: three and people are like sort of excited, sort of

1391
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: not okay, are they all that different? And then maybe

1392
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: the purple one or the oval one will knock people

1393
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 2: socks off. But Lee, what do you think on these ones?

1394
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Speaker 5: Well, Jenna, if you can bring up the photo of

1395
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 5: the three of them there, because I think Og yeah, see,

1396
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 5: I think his looks the best, even though he's got

1397
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 5: the ball covering it a bit. I just think that

1398
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: looks the cleanest of the three that we can see there.

1399
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 5: I don't love the red one on Kyle. I would

1400
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 5: have Og Pascal and then Kyle in in order of

1401
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 5: their jerseys there. Yeah, relax, you know, I'm just saying

1402
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 5: I just think it looks different when they're on when

1403
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: they're on the player there. And I don't know somebody

1404
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 5: about the red one.

1405
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1406
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 5: It just doesn't really do it for me.

1407
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I with you. I don't love the red

1408
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: or black black one looks like the Chicago Bulls tray.

1409
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the black one looks like a knockoff balls jersey.

1410
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: The red jersey looks like something you would buy at Walmart,

1411
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: and the white one looks like candy canes. I don't

1412
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: think that the Raptors needed a rebrand. They just won

1413
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: a championship wearing uniforms that they started wearing in twenty fifteen.

1414
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 3: I think they could have stuck it out with what

1415
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 3: they had and just tinkered around the edges with their

1416
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: OVO jerseys, with whatever sort of tribute they want to

1417
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: pay to the past. These will probably look better when

1418
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: they're on the court. Red and black a classic love

1419
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: white and red not necessarily my favorite, but these are

1420
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: a no for me dog.

1421
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well see the home and road ones. I feel

1422
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 6: like they're not that different. They can just go back

1423
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 6: to even the ones that they had the last five years,

1424
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 6: like it's it's it's not a huge change to me,

1425
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 6: and you're always going to change that one. In the

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 6: black generally, that's that's the one people are changing, and

1427
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 6: the teams are generally changing that statement one. I don't

1428
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 6: think they're all that different.

1429
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: But I wonder if these two they haven't unveiled yet,

1430
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: we'll also have Raptors or will one of them task

1431
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: like you said, will one still have North, will one

1432
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: say Toronto. I mean, we'll see unless they just go

1433
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: all five of them saying raptors.

1434
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Chevron, Chevron.

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh man, when I when you say chevron, my mind

1436
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: immediately goes to the Nintendo game Excite.

1437
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: Bike, Excite Bike.

1438
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: I guess it's a computer game as well. I think

1439
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: it made its way to the nes because you hit

1440
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: the chevrons in that game and you sped up.

1441
01:01:59,440 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 6: I don't know that.

1442
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: Immediately go yeah, you get a little boosy and hit

1443
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: those ramps. That was a great game. Oh man, I

1444
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: love that you ever played that lead you know game

1445
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. No, you never played a slight bike. Okay,

1446
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: all right, I guess your thumb's down. All right, let's

1447
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: call it there. Let's call it there, guys. It's a

1448
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: lot of fun. As I said, this was unexpected, but

1449
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: we had to jump on here on a Friday tray.

1450
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: You're off next week, so we wanted to get this

1451
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: in and get your opinions on all of these topics,

1452
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: the Morion, Lou and Jersey and stuff like that. Where

1453
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: you going going camping.

1454
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: For the week, Yeah, heading out to the woods, going

1455
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: to be sleeping in a tent. This might be the

1456
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: last you hear of me. Oh wow, So the whole family,

1457
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: of course, is going here. It's not just you, Me

1458
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: and the girls all in a gigantic tent Watch Out

1459
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: for the Bears. But you know, I'm glad we got

1460
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: this podcast in. I don't know if I would have

1461
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: been able to relax without giving my take on Dwayne

1462
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: Wade showing up on a bench at a couple getting engaged.

1463
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Speaker 2: It's true, it's true. Watch Over the Bears, Watching for

1464
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: the Cougars. Seen that video? Your wife is coming with me?

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Speaker 3: Incredible.

1466
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Speaker 2: A few of us will be back then next week

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Speaker 2: with a couple of podcasts, so make sure you're subscribed.

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Speaker 2: but we will be back with a couple shows. We'll

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Speaker 2: try and do a beach step And if you guys

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Speaker 2: turn Up Love You Guys Awesome t shirt and I've

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Speaker 2: got a few emails about the shirt that's now arriving

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Speaker 2: to people.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: The look is distressed. It is purposely faded a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We will update the photos on the website because I

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: get it. The one looks like it. You know, it's

1481
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Speaker 2: crystal clear and the number or the letters are all

1482
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Speaker 2: the seventies like sort of retro vibe.

1484
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Speaker 3: So it's distressed.

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Speaker 2: I saw some people like, what's wrong with my shirt?

1486
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Speaker 2: That's how it's supposed to be, is the answer to that.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. We'll work it out if you really, really

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Speaker 2: really want to return it. But just know that if

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Speaker 2: you haven't bought a turn Up Love You Guys awesome

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Speaker 3: To look distressed.

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Speaker 2: TK Tripper Jones it up, Clipper Brooks it up, fix

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Speaker 2: it up, Clipper Broce.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, and remember, don't be stressed. It's distressed.

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Speaker 3: Embrace the day.

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Speaker 6: People.

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Speaker 3: You could stay.

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Speaker 6: Every day, dang you, happy, every many. It's been so

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Speaker 6: long that your Wana way it happened already. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: be gravy.