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Speaker 1: Michael, Good morning, Sweat and welcome to the No Duks

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody on YouTube. Hello podcast listeners. Kudos to you

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Speaker 3: guys for holding down the four some banger episodes to

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Speaker 3: start the playoffs while I was away in Boston. What

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Speaker 3: but no, it was great show. Its good stuff from

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Speaker 3: all you guys. On today's show, we're discussing the Athletics'

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Speaker 3: latest anonymous player poll that came out yesterday. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 3: dissect that. NBA Awards season has officially started, Peyton.

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Speaker 2: Petcher and taking home six Man in of the Year.

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Speaker 3: But first game two, Rex, I got some games. Let's

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Speaker 3: start with the stinker last night, first dad night of

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, yeah, like this last game really not really, No.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers bounced back with a ninety four eighty five

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Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron took an early lead there in the

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Speaker 3: They never let up. They've even the series at one

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Speaker 3: JJ Reddick after the game was loving that the urgency

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Speaker 4: You could see Lebron was way more into it defensively,

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Speaker 4: the Wolves right off the bat. I thought they were

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Speaker 4: they didn't really want to go get them. Edwards didn't

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Speaker 4: Why are you taking a shot from the free throw

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Speaker 2: It was kind of Bobby Porters got very hot.

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Speaker 5: It was the Lakers defense with the story and this

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Speaker 5: one Nico Harrison must have been loving a defense wins championships.

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Speaker 5: Minnesota made twenty one threes in Game one. They took

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Speaker 5: It had nine assists in Game one, talked about how

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Speaker 5: He was really the tone setter on defense. You could

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Speaker 5: That was a huge momentum play. Eleven rebounds for Lebron.

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Speaker 5: Luca added twelve rebounds. They played small basically this entire

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Speaker 5: the rebounding battle, they tied points in the paint. What

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards like the big game heading into this one,

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Speaker 2: Like a team that was pretty content to go home.

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Speaker 3: With the split, like we did our business, we got one,

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Speaker 2: And it did have that feeling. Now, part of that.

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Speaker 2: They flipped it head on. It's what am I trying

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Speaker 4: I don't script its head?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, But he was over after that. They

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Speaker 4: You always tend to comment about Anthony Edwards and how

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Speaker 4: You think that was the case and this one was

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Speaker 2: He had two boards. This was through first three quarters.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough.

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Speaker 3: Jadeen Daniels was the star of Game one. Did that

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Speaker 3: Walker won of six like you know, no wonder Anthony

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Speaker 3: Edwards had zero assists. Yeah, like he was passing the

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Speaker 4: The Lakers definitely contested three point shots more than Game one,

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. And the way you see

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Speaker 4: if shots are uncontested is if Jadan McDaniels is making them.

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Speaker 4: He could have hit a couple more. But yes, the

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Speaker 4: They were aggressive enough. I mean the offense they were

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Speaker 4: can take that to Friday in game three. I think that,

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Speaker 4: That was unfortunate because the rest just made some wrong

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to get some fascinating games in

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Speaker 5: You just don't know what you're getting from Minnesota. Game

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Speaker 5: we'll see what happens in Minnesota. I think Minnesota happy

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Speaker 2: And Luka had an awesome game.

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Speaker 5: Like Texas saying it finished with the triple double, thirty

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they went to a time and time

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Speaker 5: Five of seven players went five to seventeen against him,

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Speaker 5: as the main defender. That's all right, but the five

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Speaker 2: They didn't sell him out.

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Speaker 3: Eventually, every single time all seventeen matchups, the crowd goes bunking.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Every time that, especially Gobert is matched up on Lukea

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Speaker 5: But they would run a couple of screen and rolls

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Speaker 5: in game one it was just okay, we got go

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Speaker 5: Beart on Luca, go cook. In this game it was

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Speaker 2: And that was very helpful, I thought, for uh.

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Speaker 5: Luca and for the Lakers though, I'll say nice stuff

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Speaker 2: Go for the coast to coast amazing. You'll never see

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Speaker 5: That was like when he hit the fadeaway jumper against

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Speaker 4: Single Yeah, Luca made sure he complained that he was

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Speaker 4: fouled on that takeaway maybe, but yeah, Rudy's got those

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Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets, that was freaking awesome. So yeah, put

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Speaker 4: the montage together, that was finn. I do think Luca

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Speaker 4: loves to go at it. I do think sometimes he's

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Speaker 4: very minor concern, minor criticism. Luca's game spectacular in this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially from the jump, like he was

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Speaker 4: He did in Game one too, Yeah, first quarter. He's

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Speaker 4: the number, he's the first quarter man, and Lebron can

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Speaker 3: him to try and guard because they don't have a center. Really,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jackson Hayeses rolled out there, but then you

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Speaker 3: like Lebron and Ruey and it's like, Okay, that's a

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Speaker 3: switches on Luca Lebron. I mean Austin Reeves blew by

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Speaker 3: it's not surprising it's a one to one split headed

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Speaker 4: But the Wolves are happy to say, hey, Rudy Gobert,

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Speaker 4: go guard him one on one, because if that's the

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Speaker 4: they're happy that he was totally fine the defense. As

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Speaker 4: Trey mentioned that stet minus two out there all good.

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Speaker 4: I do think the Luca Steph kurr Re celebration was

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Speaker 4: he also did the as he walked away, he said, hey,

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Speaker 4: I looked at you guys. He put his two fingers

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Speaker 4: then you could hear him in the micd up situation.

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Speaker 4: He told his teammate, you see what I did. I

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Speaker 4: we had a big dunk in this one. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: The third chor you thought maybe that was gonna like

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Speaker 3: one on I guess like Jackson Ace where he powered

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I wonder what the defensive contest score had

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Speaker 5: to be a undred because it was body to body

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Speaker 2: That was pretty cool, rough game.

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Speaker 3: In a weird way for him, you know, getting hit

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Speaker 3: booger in this game that the stream team was telling

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Speaker 3: So there it is, everybody on YouTube, there's big booger.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty good. Book, that's really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Two masks for Ruey last night. Went with the clear

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Speaker 5: They said, no, you have to wear a mask because

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Speaker 5: we cannot have you going out for multiple games if

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Speaker 5: you get hitting the nose once again. But obviously a

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Speaker 4: He definitely had to pass out of his threes because

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Speaker 4: I don't think he could see yeah, which obviously stunck.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty surprising when he switched to

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Speaker 5: So you would think like you could do like the

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Speaker 2: Up a pop up.

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Speaker 3: Any other random notes or anything else from this game,

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Speaker 5: JJ Reddick has a potty mouth and he needs to

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Speaker 5: be careful. Holy he might catch a fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: fine the way Anthony Edwards did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're allowed to cuss at your players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I believe.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell a fan that you got a bigger

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Speaker 2: Okay in the NBA, fair enough, but look, you.

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Speaker 3: Like I think I think Lakers fans are like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: I like that. You know, he was pissed, like he's

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Speaker 2: This game is definitely weirk.

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Speaker 3: We're not running away with this and we can't go

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Speaker 3: down to well, we have to win and like, holy

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Speaker 3: was he livid with the officials or his team or everybody,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I heard this live. I had headphones in. I

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Speaker 4: so this is just proof that we'll never get a

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Speaker 4: micd up channel. That will never happen. Yeah, the mics

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Speaker 4: And Ruey didn't really react well on a rotation, but

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Speaker 4: that's before time out. Well, what did he say during

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Speaker 2: JJ had a good.

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Speaker 5: Game, had a really good game. Like their game plan

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought they were going through their offensive

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Speaker 3: But all right, let's keep it moving here to uh, well,

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Speaker 3: so they take the two zero series lead. The Grizzlies

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Speaker 2: But takeaways from this when TK gets started, all right,

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Speaker 5: Just Alexander had twenty seven points on twenty nine shots

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Speaker 5: They've lost all six games against the Thunder. This season

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Speaker 5: by double digits, and it doesn't look like there's any

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Speaker 5: They wait for Jared Jackson Junior, who did have a

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Speaker 5: thought Alex Caruso was incredible in this game. Thirteen points,

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Speaker 5: Eighteen and twenty two minutes. People will tell you a

438
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,360
Speaker 5: single game plus minus not always accurate.

439
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 2: This one was. He was just incredible.

440
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,679
Speaker 5: He was all over the court and I don't know,

441
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 5: Steph No put out a highlight tape of Alex Caruso

442
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 5: from the first half, and it's like, you're never gonna

443
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 5: see a highlight tee that has a backscreen in it

444
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,119
Speaker 5: or a guy just poking the ball out from behind,

445
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 5: and that's what Caruso did. When he's on the court,

446
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,119
Speaker 5: it feels impossible for Memphis to score.

447
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,159
Speaker 4: No, he was awesome. I mean, he did it so

448
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 4: many times. He just continued the fight of this team

449
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,439
Speaker 4: that is fighting like they were down one h they

450
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 4: were so scratchy.

451
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 3: Definitely, it felt like they were the team though needed

452
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 3: this win. Yeah, which they didn't because they just beat

453
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 3: them by fifty one.

454
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,159
Speaker 4: But all the stats, I mean, they crushed them in

455
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 4: offensive rebounds, they crushed went fast break twenty one three.

456
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 4: They took one hundred and four shots. That's a lot

457
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 4: of shots because they got those offensive rebounds and because

458
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,360
Speaker 4: of the perimeter. Guys are pretty damn scrappy when they

459
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 4: want to be, they just keep recovering. I mean, Shay

460
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 4: was scrappy defensively. The tap from behind you another steal,

461
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 4: Caruso ones our fun like, even when he couldn't poke

462
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 4: it from zachieed, he got in the passing link to

463
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 4: steal it and then dive out of bounds to save

464
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 4: it over and over and over again. I mean he

465
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 4: forced to jump ball and he was super pumped, so

466
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 4: pumped that he dropped into a push up on the

467
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: floor and they were all pumped. They were all pumped

468
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 4: to get this going. There just has to be a

469
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 4: team that takes away a game from them, and you know,

470
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 4: evens this thing, but it ain't this first round matchup,

471
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: not this time.

472
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Speaker 3: I thought chet Holmgren was awesome too on both ends

473
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 3: for okay see at twenty points, grabbed a team high

474
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 3: eleven boards. Nice mix of outside inside from chet Holmegrin

475
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 3: was what you always want to see at three for

476
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 3: eight on threes, and then he got to the line,

477
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 3: I was six at the charity stripe and then he

478
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 3: also recorded a game high I think it was five

479
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: blocks in his thirty three minutes and and a lot

480
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 3: of those like those were like again, it wasn't all

481
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: that close, but the Grizzlies were hanging around just enough,

482
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 3: but he had some timely ones where he was just

483
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: shutting down guys at the rim and then it was

484
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: usually transition points the other way for okay s So

485
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: a really good game from him.

486
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 4: Recovery block was like a minute left.

487
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still trying to ask, he's.

488
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 4: Still trying toss off, you know. Yeah, not not a blowout,

489
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 4: but I mean, you didn't have to do that.

490
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: It is insane, like you just gave us SGA's numbers

491
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: through two games and they're like crushing them, Like Memphis

492
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: has led for two minutes and twenty one seconds in

493
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: the entire series here. But like I was thinking, like

494
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: they're up to oh handedly and SGA's been there like

495
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: overall the thunders, Like I don't even know where he

496
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 3: has slought him right now. He's like third, fourth or

497
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: fifth best player in the series right now. And don't worry.

498
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 3: You know he's going to explode at one point here

499
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: in one of these games for forty or forty five.

500
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Speaker 3: But like that's just like, oh my god, he doesn't

501
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: even have to be elite for them to just not

502
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: only win games, but like they can just run away

503
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 3: with games with him like not being able to like

504
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: hit shots oddly right now. So yeah, I don't know

505
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: what Memphis does here. I don't know if you believe

506
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: they can take.

507
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 2: A game back in Memphis or I picked a sweep.

508
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair again, I get The one promising development

509
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: was Jared Jackson Junior at least bouncing back from an

510
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 3: abysmal game one where he scored four points and he

511
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 3: had twenty six on ten of eighteen shooting.

512
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: That was good.

513
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: But there's a lot a big stretch of this game

514
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: where John Morant was like, did not look all that engaged,

515
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: and you know, I thought he did sort of get

516
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: it going in the second half a little bit, but

517
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: like he just looked like he looked like the type

518
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: of guy he's like, I don't know what to do here.

519
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is to either stopping

520
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: them or even scoring on them, Like we're struggling on

521
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: both ends.

522
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it continued even in the second half when

523
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 4: it was ten point deficit. In the third quarter, he

524
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 4: got into the mid range and he could just let

525
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 4: it go, but he kind of got way too close

526
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: Isaiah Hartenstein as Hernstein got his hand on the ball,

527
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 4: and it could have been an eight point game. They

528
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 4: could have got it closer. But yes, he didn't know

529
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 4: the still wasn't comfortable. He was kind of in between

530
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 4: a lot of the times. And even in the second

531
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: quarter he had that fast break and he was called

532
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 4: for a travel because he threw it up there. But

533
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: he could have just passed it back to lu Kenard.

534
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 4: But when you got okay, see, he had Caruso on him,

535
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 4: he had Aaron Wiggins on him to make sure he

536
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: couldn't shoot the ball. So there's just gonna be all

537
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 4: those those plays though, center they just continued to fight

538
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: for loose balls. They continued to run around Isaiah Hartenstein

539
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: if he has the ball at the elbow, like, they

540
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: will not stop running. And so there just has to

541
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: be a series where maybe their confidence is knocked, but

542
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: not so far.

543
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: No, it looks it sure feels like a sweep headed

544
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: back to Memphis. It's just like, yeah, how much they

545
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 3: like play with their food and can they get through

546
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: this without injuring anybody of note on? Okay, see for me,

547
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: Like that's where we're at. It's like going to be

548
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: four maybe five at the most.

549
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 5: But it's looking more likely like the sweep they swept

550
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 5: the Pelicans last year in the Fast Round, right.

551
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: But it was competitive through the first two games. I remember,

552
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 3: this is the exact opposite.

553
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: This one's over. But thanks for playing Memphis. He gave

554
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 5: us some interesting stuff the last couple of weeks of

555
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 5: the season.

556
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: What you guys think.

557
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: About these playoff shirts that are going around win for

558
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: the Blank I noticed it in this one win for

559
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: the m Yeah, Memphis.

560
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: Better than win for cream City.

561
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: Hilarious.

562
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 5: One win for the Land that's Cleveland, win for the

563
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 5: Wall with an exclamation point, that's the Clippers.

564
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: That's okay. Win for the joy Lakers, win for the

565
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: Burroughs Knicks, win for the Bay Warriors, win for the

566
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: for the o Orlando.

567
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: So that the Pacers just completely swerved.

568
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 5: Yes, sirs, Yeah, that's better.

569
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: All of the ones that are like custom made to

570
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: the teams are better than these.

571
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: Win for the Bad, win for the Wall Point, that's good.

572
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: Not a fan of any of them. Win for Cream

573
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: City would be very funny to have.

574
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the most competitive game last night.

575
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 3: Sam and Halliburton leading the Pacers pass the Bucks one three,

576
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: one fifteen. They take a two to zero series lead,

577
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: and we obviously can talk about Deam and his return

578
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: and what you thought. Uh, he looked like, but where

579
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: do you want to start, Pacers or Bucks?

580
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 4: I kind of want to start at the start. I

581
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: thought the Bucks were looking to get everybody involved. I

582
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: mean Doc Rivers sat in between these two games because

583
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 4: Taishan Prince and Ka Kuzma put up oh first, he said,

584
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to score when you don't touch

585
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: the ball. Yeah, because he was on Memphis bench. Right,

586
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: he's an assistant coaches, you know, I've seen him. I've

587
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: seen him.

588
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: Will never supersede Princeyan Prince was brutal. Yeah, they may

589
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 5: be do it better if Taishan Prince wasn't play.

590
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 4: He did it one three, but he.

591
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: Had a couple threes. But he also can't run a

592
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: fast break. Yeah, I'm convinced Jannest was going to like

593
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 3: like kill him.

594
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

595
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: He botched two or three fast breaks where Yannis was

596
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: running with him, and he made the wrong decision every time.

597
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 5: Torian Prince never played until he found Darvin Ham and

598
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 5: now he plays all the time.

599
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense.

600
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 5: He wasn't good when he played for the Hawks here

601
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 5: and all those guys starts in the playoffs for multiple

602
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 5: teams doesn't make any sense. The Bucks have a starting

603
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: lineup problem. They have three guys who should probably be

604
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 5: on the bench. I think Lopez is the biggest offender

605
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 5: because the.

606
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: Dude is just so slow.

607
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: You saw last night. Anytime Halliburton saw him on a switch,

608
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: he's like, I'm going to the hoop. Halliburton had a

609
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: dunk in the half court last night. Have you ever

610
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 5: seen that?

611
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: No, he had so.

612
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: Many layups, has score when he just brought the ball up.

613
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean after it.

614
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 5: Was so easy for Halliburton and for all the Pacers.

615
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: Last night they started Damian Lillard because he was back,

616
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 5: but the Yannas Lopez, Kuzma, Prince, whoever the point guard is.

617
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: So far in this series they've played thirty five minutes.

618
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 5: They're a minus twenty three. The net rating is a

619
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: minus thirty one point five. Literally, the Bucks cannot keep

620
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 5: up with the Pacers speed wise. Kuzma was trying to

621
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 5: guard Halliburton. It's like a Kuzma Lopez pick and roll.

622
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: How can you possibly think that's gonna work defensively? No,

623
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 5: but they'll probably all three start again in game three.

624
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: That's how Doc Rivers does it.

625
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: He never changes this thing, especially with Darvin Hampton. We

626
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: gotta state Prince, Yeah, I gotta keep him in there.

627
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Obviously, the Pacers just had so many guys perform.

628
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I wanted to talk about the Bucks,

629
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: but we really should be given some freaking credit to

630
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: this multi talented team. They had six guys in double digits. Siakam, Haliburn, Turner,

631
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: another step back for Miles Turner back to back games,

632
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 4: Aaron Smith, Mather and Nemhart beautiful bounce on his three

633
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: Obi top and had single digits, but you could just

634
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 4: see how talented he freaking is that baseline cut when

635
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: Damian Lillard wasn't looking at Lefty finish into Giannis's chest

636
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: and he had to finish it around him. I mean,

637
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: beauty three from the corner. That was a hard shot

638
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 4: for Obi topping. They're awesome, there is no doubt about that,

639
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: and they continuously produce. The weird thing is why I

640
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: want to start with the beginning of this game, is

641
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 4: why that Bucks team just allowed the Pacers to keep scoring,

642
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: because Doc Rivers said he definitely was focused on getting

643
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: Kyle Kusma involved. First possession, Yiannis dribble handoff and they

644
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: were paying enough attention to Jannis that the Kuzma layup

645
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: was freaking easy. He missed. Second possession, Giannis again to

646
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: Kuzma right at the rim, he missed Brooke then stumbled

647
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: and bumbled and dropped one. So they're down eight to zero,

648
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 4: just like that. Now, Janis did get more passes, Like

649
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: he only had one assist in game one, he had

650
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: three in his first run of eight minutes in game two.

651
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: But it took a long time and you could see

652
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: Giannis was again was gaessed. Unfortunately, he continued to produce,

653
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: but you could see how I mean he a few

654
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: minutes left in the second quarter, Halburn got pasted Jihannis

655
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: for one of those dunks. Lillard didn't help either, and

656
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: then he couldn't stop a Miles Turner hook. He had

657
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 4: a couple of travels in this game. I mean, they

658
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: got it going late and then they made it a

659
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: one possession game. But I don't know how Kuzman Portius

660
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: didn't get out to Pascal Siakam. There's like he just

661
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: had an open shot. He had an open three with

662
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 4: two minutes left in this game. So there was just

663
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: there's there's a bunch of miscommunications and so that hurt them. Obviously,

664
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: maybe a Litlard gets better. I mean that he's not

665
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: going to get better defensively is the problem. He probably

666
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: will be better on the offensive end. He looked rusty,

667
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: for sure. It was good that he was out there,

668
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: like it gives Milwaukee a little bit more depth. They're

669
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: a little bit scarier on offense. But you could tell

670
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: he didn't have his legs. I think he made one

671
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 4: shot in the second half of this and it was.

672
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: That late three.

673
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: They put him within two and then you know, for

674
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: whatever reason, they run a play to get Kuzma shot

675
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: in Brick City, of course, but on the defensive side,

676
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 5: like they target him if he's dribbling the or if

677
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: he's the main defender for whoever's handling the ball cannot

678
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 5: guard point of attack. And you're talking about all these

679
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: back cuts and Indiana punishing mistakes. A lot of these

680
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: are Dame Willard mistakes, if we're being honest. They're trying

681
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: to scram switch him out of the way, and every

682
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: time that happens, Obi Toppan just goes for a backdoor olly.

683
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 5: They completely lost the Pacers after the second action. Milwaukee

684
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 5: is doing a fine job guarding like the first screen

685
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: and roll, the second screen and roll, But then once

686
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: they got into the last ten seconds of the shot clock,

687
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: Indiana never stops moving the ball and they stop moving

688
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: their players. Lillard was just losing track of guys, and

689
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: he gave up more points certainly than he.

690
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: Did scoring points.

691
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: I thought last night, and you just think about the

692
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: players that they're putting out there. You watch the Pacers

693
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: getting these baskets inside, and every time you've either got

694
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: Lillard shrugging his shoulders, throwing his hands up a brook

695
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: Lopez doing the same.

696
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Dame didn't even give an effort at times

697
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: like haliburn inbounded from his own end and he was

698
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: able to get all the way to the rim because

699
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: Lillard didn't help. He literally he's athletic enough to take

700
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: one step, but he didn't do it on that situation.

701
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, he didn't help on another halburn dunk where

702
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: Jannis also didn't help. They got tired there. And so yes,

703
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: Lillard has to be better. I mean you can say, yeah,

704
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: a few things he could say, Well, Dame's going to

705
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: be better in game three. I think it'll help if

706
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: when Dame is better, that Janis will have somebody to

707
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: get a little bit of gravity from the Pacers defense,

708
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: or you know, have caused a little bit of gravity,

709
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: so the Pacers will have to look at somebody. Kuzma

710
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: stunk in the first half of this game. He got better.

711
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: He had eight points in the second half. He looked better.

712
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: And obviously you got a Bobby Portis yeah game, So there's.

713
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: Small positives here for sure.

714
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: Bobby's been their second best player. Yeah, they should start

715
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 5: him for brook Lopez. They need to play as many

716
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 5: Giannis at the five lineups as possible is what I'm

717
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: going at. Yeah, the only way they can hang on

718
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: the offensive end, because I don't think they're ever going

719
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: to be able to stop the Pacers defensively.

720
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they tried that with those the zone that

721
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: they play even in the regular season. If they threw

722
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: out a Kevin Porter and Darry Bird slash Dary Trent

723
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: and Bobby Portis to surround Yannison, it worked. They worked

724
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: at times.

725
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they may want to try that a little bit more.

726
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: Back in Milwaukee.

727
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: I just thought the Pacers like the rhythm offensively, whether

728
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: it was against the zone, weather was against man, they

729
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: had it going. They were up thirty one sixteen, like

730
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: through seven and a half minutes. And I will say

731
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: the Bucks like there was a part where I thought

732
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: they could have let go of the rope and they didn't,

733
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: and it was like they sort of were led by

734
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: their vets. I mean, Yannis had a monster line heading

735
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: into the series. It felt like one versus six or

736
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: seven guys, like what's gonna like, what's gonna come out

737
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: on top? Is it the super duper star and the

738
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: honest or this really incredibly well balanced Pacers team so

739
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: far it's Indiana, but they anyway, they sort of like

740
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: kept it close. I think it was sixty eight sixty

741
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: at the half, so they were like within it. But

742
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: just I love the Pacers every time they have a

743
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: good shot and they're like, na, we can get a

744
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: better shot. Like there was like in the second half

745
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: when they started on fire. There it was Haliburton picking

746
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: them apart and it was like an extra passed with

747
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Like later in the game, six minutes ago in regulation,

748
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: he was wide open for a corner three. He could

749
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: have taken it, and he's like, no Obi Toppin, who

750
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: can't miss from the corner?

751
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: You know?

752
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Over the last little stretch, I'll just give it to him.

753
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: It was like a better shot, just a better shot,

754
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: better closer three point shot like stuff like that.

755
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: Little things like that's the Halliburton effect totally.

756
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: The guy makes the simple pass every single time and

757
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: it filters down to the rest of the team.

758
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: I agree.

759
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: And that thing was pinging around when they had good

760
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: shots they could have taken.

761
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Instead they just settled for a better one. But yeah,

762
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: they look close. Game.

763
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: You said, Dame three got it to what two points? Yeah,

764
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: suddenly one fifteen one to thirteen after Bobby hit a

765
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: couple threes, but then Siakam with that three, and then

766
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: Nemhard with a huge three over Yannis trying to close

767
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: out in the hit. Like that was a hell of

768
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: a step back there from Nemhard, Who's continued to play

769
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: really well through these first two games.

770
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: He's a playoff riser absolutely.

771
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: Seventeen points, five assists, two steals in Game one, seventeen points,

772
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: six assists, three threes in Game two. He hitched clutch

773
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: shots when they're open. He brings ball pressure, which you know,

774
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: throws the opposing team off. I really like the way

775
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: Nemhar plays, and then man Siakam is awesome. This guy

776
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: is doing everything for the Pacers. Twenty four points, eleven rebounds,

777
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 5: three assists, three steals, two threes including the dagger late.

778
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: He initiates the offense, he finishes plays, he hits wide

779
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: open threes, He runs the court, he defends like he's

780
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: not out playing Giannis onto Takumpo, but he's making it

781
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: a pretty fair fight. Yeah, you know, like Giannis is

782
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: having a great series, but he's not having a superlative

783
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: series compared to Sam Siakam has been incredible.

784
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Maybe he's been the best pacer through these two James.

785
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: I just like the verve that Haliburton plays with and

786
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: the way he plays energizes their offense. But Siakam has

787
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 5: been exactly what they wanted when they traded for him

788
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: last year.

789
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: We had Halliburton and Dame getting into it once again

790
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: here in game two, both time in uniform. Obviously Game one,

791
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: Dame was in street clothes, but they were talking some

792
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: crap that was near the end of the game. And

793
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: we also had double text I guess on Siaka and

794
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: Bobby Portis junior. We had Gary Trent was a Gary

795
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: Trent junior throwing Sakam down earlier in the game. That

796
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: sort of got a little BREWJJA going. So look they

797
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: I love how they're openly talking like after these games,

798
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: like we hate them, they hate us.

799
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great rivalry. It should continue here.

800
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't see why I would it when especially Game

801
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: three where Milwaukee has to win to have any chance

802
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: to still win this series.

803
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be a scrappy one. Pascal Siakam leading the

804
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: NBA Playoffs techs so far with two. Hey, our Instigator

805
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: draft update no action last night. Trey's Della Zippo is

806
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: his Triple D's of Draymond, Dontrich and Darius anyways, working

807
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: title of Triple D. We could do better and Skeet's

808
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: still a zero right now. Brooks Edwards in Dort, I'm

809
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: sure you'll find some points with with those guys. No

810
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: Tatum right now for me, No points for him. Maybe

811
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: not playing. We'll get to that. Isaiah Stewart, Nope, not playing.

812
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: But I still got one point from is called well

813
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: Pope with a flagrant. Yeah, you want to hear everybody's

814
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: got the A tech so far. I've got a list

815
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: of guys who have texts now we'll save it. Anyways,

816
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: a couple couple of coaches have texts. That's cool.

817
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: What'd you guys think?

818
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 3: I guess here's my question. Better group of fans last

819
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: night that we saw in this game, the four Pacers

820
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: fans sitting courtside decked out in hunting gear like they

821
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: were going to bag themselves as deer out there or

822
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: and we don't have a photo of the Pacers hard

823
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: hack guy, you know, the guy that always has the flamingo.

824
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: He had the Yannis free throw clock counter doing it

825
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: manually analog.

826
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: I like that, actually a good shot of it.

827
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: The one time a prood.

828
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it broke, but they manual. They managed to

829
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 4: fix it a little bit later on. Yeah, So good work.

830
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so you would you would go that one? You were?

831
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: I think so, I didn't mind it. I just like, look,

832
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm always impressed when someone's like spending that much money

833
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: to sit court side and they still lean into a

834
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: bit like that. Very good, So like, kudos to those guys.

835
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: It did confuse Jared Greenberg, who was on the call

836
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: on NBA TV. He thought they were like construction guys.

837
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he got that they were like hunting deer.

838
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: But maybe he was thinking of the hard hat guy

839
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: obviously that was doing the time, so maybe he was

840
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: confused with that.

841
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're both pretty good.

842
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: He's a sadie guy. Also, Lance Stevenson was in the

843
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: crowd and they do this the guitar celebration that he

844
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: used to do when he played for everybody, so he

845
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: asked to do it when the camera's on him. I

846
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: like that. It's a good one. I like the indianaf

847
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: He were also in the house because w NBA Season

848
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 4: coming up, Camplin, Clark, Leah Boston throwing out T shirts.

849
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: Everybody's in a good mood. Yeah, everybody's rolling right now.

850
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: They got good synergy between the Pacers and the Fever,

851
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: which I think is good.

852
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, not every team does, that's true.

853
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: I have two other sort of random notes. I guess

854
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: about the game, and I'm sort of about the playoffs almost.

855
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: I wrote down when you know your replay system is

856
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: broken is when the announcers got to keep saying that

857
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: was a lot of time to come back with just

858
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: a common foul. Brendan Haywood said it two or three

859
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: times and he was right every time. And it's like, yeah,

860
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: that's a problem that is it's just bad, bad television,

861
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: bad game to get people into it. It's like we're

862
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: taking all this time and it's like, guys, in the end,

863
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: it was just a common foul.

864
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: It happened a couple of times. And then I wrote

865
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: this down too. I want to get your opinions on this. Now.

866
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: I realize this is for like eight or nine people

867
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: in the world, us included, I think, but there should

868
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: be a TV sicko button. I've decided where we can

869
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 3: turn off the score bugs for games being played kunk

870
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: currently M because I don't want to know, like because

871
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: he had a seven o'clock, a seven thirty start, I'm

872
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: going to be consuming these. I don't want to be spoiled.

873
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: So I want to.

874
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 3: Turn off that bug that's telling me the Thunder game.

875
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, that's just be an option.

876
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: It should be an option that's on League pass right,

877
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: You're like hide score exactly exactly, but they've just decided

878
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: on national television.

879
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: They're showing us you got to stay involved decided.

880
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: Come on, I want to go back.

881
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: I want to see it.

882
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to see it, but you're ruining it for me.

883
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Thank you for reminding me, because I woke up this

884
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: morning to watch Lakers Minnesota today, and you can turn

885
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: it off in the NBA app. Yeah, yeah, I got

886
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: to do that.

887
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, so they're showing you on NBA TV and

888
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: they're showing you on ESPN. They're showing you the NBA

889
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: TV score. So I'm on or O atn T. I

890
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: guess it was last night anyway.

891
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: Any other notes, Kevin Porter Junior grabbed a.

892
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: Foot, grabbed Thomas Bryant's foot, got a flagrant Come here, yeah, yeah,

893
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: can't grab feet.

894
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Nobody had him in our draft on nationally. What have

895
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: been a good pick though? Yeah?

896
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the anonymous player poll because

897
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: the Athletic put out their latest anonymous player poll yesterday.

898
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: Grand total of one hundred and fifty eight players participated

899
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: in the Q and A. That's over one third of

900
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: the league. Ice tremendous work by our NBA staff asking

901
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: these questions. I've added the link in the show notes,

902
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: so go check that out on the Athletic. The response

903
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: that generated the biggest social media buzz was the answer

904
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: to who's the most overrated player in the league, and

905
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: Tyrese Halliburton took the win. I guess if you want

906
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: to call it that, ninety responses to this one, Halliburton

907
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: getting fourteen point four percent of the vote when it

908
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: came to who's the league's most overrated player? And then

909
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: some familiar names Rudy Gobert in second, Trey Young in third,

910
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler forth, and then some votes for Bradley Beal,

911
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: Draymond Green, John Moran, Julies, Ryno, Old Dwell, and Beid.

912
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: A bunch of other guys got votes, but we'll cut

913
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: it there for guys that got sort of multiple votes,

914
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: But how surprised were you tk with Halliburton getting the

915
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 3: most Overrated player vote here?

916
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 5: On one hand, I'm surprised because I don't understand why

917
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 5: everybody hates this guy so much. The results come out

918
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: and people say, why do people hate Haliburton so much?

919
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 5: They say, because he only talks trash when he's winning

920
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 5: a How do you know that they're playing an entire game,

921
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: You're not hearing everything be everybody talks when they're up.

922
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Who cares.

923
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 5: But on the other hand, people do hate Tyer's Haliburton,

924
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 5: so not surprising he would come up tops on this one.

925
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: I guess fourteen point four percent of ninety votes is

926
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 5: like thirteen players, So you factor in Damian Lillard, there's

927
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: twelve other guys around the league.

928
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: Was it the entire bucks for how it might have been?

929
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thirteen players on it kind of adds up.

930
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: He wouldn't be my pick personally, and in fact, if

931
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: you're choosing between him and Damian Lillard, I know who

932
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: I'm voting for on that one.

933
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, yeah, yeah, goodness. Okay, what was your

934
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: reaction to Halliburton? Getting this. He didn't seem to care

935
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: by the way they asked him yesterday.

936
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: No, it's not, although Rick Carlo did.

937
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: He cared he wanted some names, not realizing it's synonymous

938
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: for a reason.

939
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: Yes, but anyways, Yeah, and only ninety of the players

940
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: of the one hundred and fifty five that one answer

941
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: to other questions, yeah, ninety said okay, yeah, I'll answer that.

942
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: So it is interesting. I guess maybe they didn't like

943
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: Tyres Haliburton jumping on the podcasting game, getting in the

944
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: podcasting game way too early in his career. I'm guessing

945
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: out I'm trying to find a straw here for thirteen

946
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: guys thinking about it, because it is early in his

947
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: career obviously, So maybe they deemed podcasting too early in

948
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: your first two All Star appearances, But I don't know.

949
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: He was voted by players as a tenth best Eastern

950
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: Conference guard this season in terms of All Star votes

951
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: as well, so he's never never been voted extremely high.

952
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: At the same time, I can see why Rudy Gobert

953
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: was up there. He's just been hated for a long

954
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: time by players. But I don't know. It's not drastically more.

955
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: I know Tyres Alburton is the one that we're going

956
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: to talk about. But it's the team guys. It's not

957
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: that huge number or is that just me?

958
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: No?

959
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: No, I think it maybe a little shocking that he

960
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: got the most votes. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, Rudy,

961
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: Like Rudy Gobar and Trey Young, those are just like,

962
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: those are guys that are always going to be on

963
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: these lists, I know, like for for a long time,

964
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, you know, Draymond's gonna get some. Even Jimmy

965
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: especially with the season he had sort of like obviously

966
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: derailing the heat season.

967
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: I get that. But Haliburton gett the most. Yeah, that

968
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: was a little surprising.

969
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

970
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

971
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 5: And even Rick Carlisle was like, look, why would they

972
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 5: do this? They put Giannis Onto Tokupo and Jimmy.

973
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: Butler on there.

974
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: So he's like, I voted for Rudy Gobaron, Trey Young,

975
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: guess the most overrated players. He's a completely completely brushed

976
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: off side those guys. He's like, no, those guys are overrated,

977
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: but these two MVP candidates they're not.

978
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

979
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: Thirty three players received at least one vote for this

980
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: most Overrated and was there not there was the whole thing.

981
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: Like somebody or one or two people said nobody's overrated.

982
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: That's right, you made the NBA. You're not overrated. Okay,

983
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: fair enough. Most Underrated Kate Cunningham eight point eight percent,

984
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: so obviously a little less in terms of totality of

985
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: votes he got. But uh, Keith Cunningham getting maybe, uh,

986
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: what could be a Most Improved Player award here he

987
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 3: sort of goes hand in hand with underrated TK.

988
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had any opinions on this one.

989
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 5: We'll move through some of these, but I think this

990
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: is a one season win for Kate Cunningham getting the

991
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: Most Improved Player for the same reason he would get

992
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 5: Most Underrated. The team was a lot better this year

993
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: because you look at the next one, two, three, four

994
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 5: guys who got votes Derek White, Norman Powell, Austin Reeves,

995
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: Drew Holliday.

996
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: These are third and fourth options on their team.

997
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, those are the real underrated guys, not a guy

998
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: who was a number one draft pick and is going.

999
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: To probably be all NBA.

1000
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: I feel the same way about this vote as I

1001
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: do about Most Improved, Like the guy went number one. Yeah,

1002
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: we know, yes, he's supposed to be suppos to speak eventually.

1003
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: This one does feel like in the anonymous players voting

1004
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: on it, like, uh, they've played against him, of course,

1005
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: some of these people, and it's like he was just

1006
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: on a really crappy Pistons team, but that didn't mean

1007
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: he wasn't like pretty damn good for a rook in

1008
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: his first couple of seasons. I know he was injured

1009
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: a little bit, but like they believed in him, they

1010
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: saw the talent and now you know, now he's got

1011
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: a good team around him. Yeah, duh, he's really good.

1012
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: He's all NBA.

1013
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a star, and so he should be rated

1014
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: a little bit higher. And he is making his name

1015
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 4: known here in the playoffs so for a bigger fan base,

1016
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 4: so he's reaching more people. The Derek White one, I

1017
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: mean people have been saying he's underrated for like six

1018
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 4: thousand years. Yeah, for a couple of years, I would say,

1019
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: And you know, he was awesome in the playoffs last year,

1020
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: so he doesn't have to be underrated anymore. Although it

1021
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: makes sense, like Norman Powell, Austin reeves, they deserve a

1022
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: little bit more. Austury's is a good player. Norm Pal's

1023
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: a good player.

1024
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Norm Polis should have won this one. I think, yeah,

1025
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: for this season.

1026
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 5: Sure, two guys got titles. One guy was a number

1027
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 5: one overall draft pick and another guy plays on the Lakers. Yeah,

1028
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 5: third option for the Clippers. I think it's more underrated.

1029
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 5: The third option for the Lakers.

1030
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: That's probably fair.

1031
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 3: MVP the players anonymously, they think shake gilts Alexander gets

1032
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: the majority of the vote fifty six point one percent,

1033
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: and what a lot of people think is going to

1034
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 3: be the result here soon enough TK whenever they announced

1035
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: the actual award.

1036
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I said, I thought it'd be like a

1037
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: two to one margin voting for Shay basically a two

1038
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 5: to one margin here, he's going to win MVP.

1039
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Though.

1040
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 5: You get a lot of quotes from players basically saying

1041
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: Jokic just have it his best season. How could he

1042
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 5: not be MVP? Triple double, thirty points per game? How

1043
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: could he not be MVP? There are several players with

1044
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: MVP valid cases, chief amongst them Sga and Jokic as well.

1045
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 5: I did notice no votes for Jason Tatum. That was

1046
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 5: interesting to me. Mitchell got votes.

1047
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. Last year in synonymous poll, Nikol Jokic was in

1048
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: a far closer poll forty thirty seven percent for Shay.

1049
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: So this definitely feels like this will be replicated with

1050
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: the actual vote.

1051
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Face of the League in five years Victor Wemenyama

1052
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: pulling in fifty four point three percent of the votes,

1053
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards coming in second. I'm sure you weren't shocked

1054
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: by the result, but did you think it may be

1055
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: be more of a blowout TK for Wemby.

1056
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: I guess fifties kind of low you put it that way, yeah,

1057
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: i'd be. My takeaway was that I think Lucas should

1058
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: have more votes as face of the league. He's the

1059
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: first international player in history to have the best selling jersey.

1060
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 5: He's now on the Lakers. I think he Maybe it's

1061
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 5: because this is in five years, so we don't know

1062
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: what Lucas going to be doing in five years, but

1063
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be the face of the

1064
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 5: league for the next five years.

1065
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: I think this is just emblematic of how we shouldn't

1066
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: care that an American player needs to be face of

1067
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: the league, because you do hear that in conversations in

1068
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: NBA circles. So we need an American guy who is

1069
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: this image, this persona but we don't. We don't at all.

1070
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: Victor Wemenyama is obviously charismatic. He's eccentric. He does strange

1071
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: things that will get plenty of headlines. He's very well spoken.

1072
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: I think he could easily be face of the league,

1073
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: and it's good for the league because he's a good dude.

1074
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: That's it.

1075
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: I think, done and done, and so will he be there.

1076
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: He has to win. I think you have to win

1077
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: to be faced in the league. So we'll see about this.

1078
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 4: It could be Luca as well. Luca could be that guy.

1079
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1080
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Best organization the Warriors twenty one nine percent, and the

1081
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 3: worst organization was the Hornets at thirty eight point one percent.

1082
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Any reactions to any of those two franchises on you know,

1083
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: opposite ends of the spectrum.

1084
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: Players around the league must have seen Clay Thompson's return

1085
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: to the Warriors and the way they brought out all

1086
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 5: those hats, and they're like, that's awesome.

1087
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: Look at those hats and.

1088
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: Those Sailor hats. They've also had an extended run for

1089
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: their dynasty. I mean, obviously things have changed. Clay Thompson

1090
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: now on Dallas, but they brought Jimmy Butler in to

1091
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: give Steph Curry a better chance. They've got a new arena,

1092
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 5: they spend a lot of money. They've won four titles

1093
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: in the past fifteen years. Like, I think this is

1094
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: the right choice for best organization on there.

1095
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what the Warriors have been for a decade.

1096
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: It's been a long time. These polls were asked of

1097
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: these players, like March to April, when they're cooking, when

1098
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: Jay's there, deadline, and they turned on something which they

1099
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 4: actually have within their organization. Okay see in Boston two

1100
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: and three makes sense too. Yeah, we could see what

1101
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: okay see is turning into. We could see what Boston

1102
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 4: has become. They've been an Eastern Conference finalist or a

1103
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: finalist for many years. They've got a great organization. The

1104
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: Clippers at fourth was interesting.

1105
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: I thought Bomber spends money, baby.

1106
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: Yes, he's Bomber spends money. They love the wall, They

1107
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 4: love everything about that arena. Because one player was quoted

1108
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: saying everything is first class for them. Tis true. Bomber

1109
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: wants to play basketball. He's great at technology, but he's

1110
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: a lot He's right like that.

1111
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 5: He wanted to go to the NBA, but unfortunately his

1112
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 5: strength live with yeah, he's.

1113
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: A coder man. He's a coder in the into it probably.

1114
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got they got chargers at every Yeah, seat

1115
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 5: right your laptop.

1116
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: The Hornets thirty eight percent there as the worst organization.

1117
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: I did love this response. Again Anonymously, some players declined

1118
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: to answer this question because they said they didn't have

1119
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: enough reliable information to make an informed judgment. As one

1120
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: respondent said, you don't really know. You could be a

1121
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: losing program but still be a great organization. So I

1122
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: thought that was so that's true. I guess that is true.

1123
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: But most of the teams at the top of the

1124
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: worst organization were the bad teams for the last little while.

1125
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: In Your Hornets and your Wizards.

1126
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little surprised. I think that the Hornets took

1127
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 5: home to win. I probably would have voted for the Wizards.

1128
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: They'd been worse longer. They haven't won fifty games in

1129
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: literally fifty years.

1130
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was just had for a second though,

1131
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 4: I think, right, yeah they.

1132
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: Were yeah, featuring these two teams.

1133
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 5: But the good thing is that the Balls only got

1134
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 5: three votes, the only time the Balls showed up on

1135
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 5: any of these except for somehow Mantis Bozells got one

1136
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: vote for Face of the League and fire. Oh oh

1137
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: it wasn't me, but only three votes for worst organization.

1138
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: I love that. That's good.

1139
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: The Sun somehow, though, got two votes for best Organizations.

1140
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah so one, Bradley Beal. They're like, these guys got

1141
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 5: suckered into paying me two hundred and fifty million dollars.

1142
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, who's the other guy? Who is the other

1143
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: guy that voted for you?

1144
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: Were allowed to vote for your own organization?

1145
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

1146
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: I would love to know if there were any players

1147
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 5: who voted for their own organization as worst organization or

1148
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: a fellow teammate as most overrated player via.

1149
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: Jealousy's say it quietly into the rank. To our athletic reporters,

1150
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: this one, I know you. I don't think you could

1151
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: vote for yourself on So who will win the title?

1152
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: The players again not being able to vote for your

1153
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: own team. Celtics were the pick fifty seven point seven percent.

1154
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: Maybe a little surprising with what we just saw obviously,

1155
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: Okay se do in the regular season, and obviously what

1156
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: Cavs did in the Eastern Conference, but I guess you

1157
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: look at it. Boston stormed through the playoffs last year

1158
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: and missed Porzingis for a good chunk of it, brought

1159
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: back all their key players, paid them all and then

1160
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: one sixty one game still this year, just burying teams

1161
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: with all those three pointers.

1162
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: So they were a very popular pick here. Two thirds.

1163
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: It seems a little bit high. Yeah for us watching now,

1164
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 4: but I'm sure players just evaluate and they say, haven't

1165
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: done in the postseason yet. Okay, see, I guess that's

1166
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: what it is.

1167
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: And they I feel like players more than like everyone

1168
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: are like, hey, you're the champs until until somebody takes

1169
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: it from you. Why aren't you the champs again? Especially

1170
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: if you have the same unit there and you have

1171
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: the same superstars. So it's probably some truth to that.

1172
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: Any other takeaways from this, I mean, pretty fun formative.

1173
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: I guess. Uh.

1174
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 5: Anonymous poll, we're never getting a shortened season, right, eighty

1175
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: two games, it's going to be happening ten minute quarters.

1176
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.

1177
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 5: Seventy eight percent voted no on ten minute quarters, and

1178
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 5: the question was asked, would you be in favor of

1179
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: shortening the regular season if it meant your salary would

1180
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: be smaller? Eighty five percent said no, way, No, no,

1181
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: I would gladly play less games, but not for less money.

1182
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: So when it comes down to it, players would rather

1183
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 5: be more exhausted with a fatter paycheck.

1184
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: Who amongst us would right? Yep, so walking eighty two

1185
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: just like us? Ye, any other takeaway stask.

1186
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: No, I'm surprised they thought that they despise the ten

1187
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 4: minute quarters.

1188
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Wells just less minutes.

1189
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 3: It's less minutes to go around for seventy five percent

1190
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: of these guys that are also This isn't just asked

1191
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: to the superstars who are probably like, yeah, let's let's

1192
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: limit the quarters. I could play full games. Yeah, but yeah,

1193
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 3: there's all the other guys who get a nice paycheck.

1194
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of these guys will get a lot of

1195
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: reduced minutes.

1196
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 5: There was definitely one response that was I only play

1197
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: five minutes a game. I wish we had fourteen minutes.

1198
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my other takeaway.

1199
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: We get asked this, or they do this every year,

1200
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: which player in the league would you at least like

1201
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: to fight? And I mean the belt is always going

1202
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: to James Johnson, who once again pulled in a majority

1203
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: of the vote sixty three point one percent of the vote.

1204
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: This guy, obviously like the black belt or.

1205
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 3: Whatever he level he's at in uh, you know UFC

1206
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: sort of fighting stuff. Beef Stu finished second and then

1207
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: Steven Adams finished third, and somebody said, regarding Adams, you

1208
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: kind of have to worry about the quiet ones, and

1209
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: that is that you know Adams a lot different. I mean,

1210
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: James Johnson, he's not even in the game a lot

1211
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: of the time, but you know, beat Stu obviously a

1212
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: little more out there and in your face. But Steven Adams,

1213
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: he just comes into scrumbs and picks guys up and

1214
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: moves him around like chess pieces. But they're like, I

1215
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: don't want to fight that guy, even though he's like

1216
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: maybe smiley and quiet, because he kill us.

1217
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he picks guys up, like he picked up Tony Bradley, right.

1218
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: Stan Van Grady mentioned it in game one. He remembered

1219
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: him picking up Tony Bradley because Steven Adams is a muscular,

1220
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: muscular man.

1221
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: He's a muscular Yeah.

1222
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I chose the word muscular instead of just strong.

1223
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1224
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: I'd love to see that fight, though, James Johnson versus

1225
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: Steven Adams.

1226
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: Put it on a card two different fighters.

1227
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: I think James Johnson was destroy because he's a legit fighter.

1228
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: But I just want to see the strength of Adams.

1229
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I have sun.

1230
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 5: James Johnson is a good fighter because he's never in

1231
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: a fight. Nobody challenges him. The guy's played fifteen years

1232
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 5: in the NBA. Have you actually seen a James Johnson skirmish.

1233
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: You've seen Isaiah Stewart, You've seen Steven Adams get in

1234
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 5: the mix. Nobody even tries James Johnson.

1235
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: He never plays.

1236
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 5: The guy's played like ninety minutes the past two seasons,

1237
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: and they signed him after the game ball incident with

1238
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Bucks.

1239
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: Literally, he's there to be a scary guy.

1240
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you come into our law.

1241
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine.

1242
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes he dresses like an astronaut. He's like, who's gonna

1243
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: say something to me? Yeah? Nobody.

1244
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, James Johnson dressed like an astronaut one time.

1245
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1246
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: Wait, all right, let's get into some Celtics news here.

1247
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 3: We got our first major award winning word winner.

1248
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: Excuse me.

1249
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: Boston's Peyton Pritchard has been named NBA six Man of

1250
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: the Year.

1251
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Average career highs.

1252
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: Fourteen point three points, three point eight boards, three and

1253
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: a half assists in eighty games. I think he only

1254
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: started three of those. Eighty shot a career, had forty

1255
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: seven point two percent in the field, including forty one

1256
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: percent from three point range. He had over a thousand

1257
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: points off the bench, one and seventy nine most in

1258
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: the NBA.

1259
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: He got eighty two out of.

1260
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: One hundred available first place votes, So he won this

1261
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: running away from Malik Beasley.

1262
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Who finished second.

1263
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: Were you shocked by the result and how a dominant

1264
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: of victory it was for fast.

1265
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: PP Yeah, a little bit, because Lelik Beasley was taking

1266
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 4: so many headlines sort of mid season on. At the beginning,

1267
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: it was all Peyton Prichard. And that's because he started

1268
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: off the bench, and I think that is one thing

1269
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: that you can say is important. He's seventy seven games

1270
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: off the bench to sixty four for Beasley. His numbers,

1271
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: in addition to his points are great four boards, three

1272
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: point three assists to one turnover ratio, most points off

1273
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: the bench, most threes off the bench in history. He's

1274
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: damn efficient doing it, so I think he does deserve it.

1275
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: Even though as basketball media nerds we did see Malik

1276
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: Beasley a lot more. I would say you know Game

1277
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: thirty on, not just the dance. It's because he was

1278
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: damn good at it, and he probably would hit more

1279
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: threes off the bench than Peyton Pritchard if he did

1280
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: it more, I don't know. I guess not. At the

1281
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: same time, I take it back, Peyton Richard is awesome.

1282
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 4: He's better than his championship year. This is his best

1283
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: version of himself.

1284
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: It definitely felt like Malik Beasley was more important to

1285
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 5: the Piston success than Peyton Pritchard was to Boston's success.

1286
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 5: Like Boston has just such an awesome starting five that

1287
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 5: having a guy like this off the bench is just gravy.

1288
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: But third and bench scoring for Prichard, seventh and assist,

1289
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: He's a forty seven percent from the field, forty one

1290
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: from three, eighty fourth the line. Awesome season, really good

1291
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: crop of players who are up for this for this candidacy. Pritchard, Beasley,

1292
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 5: and even Ty Jerome like would be a good six

1293
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 5: man in the year winner. I would have voted for Beasley,

1294
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 5: but like you're saying, Prichard was the favorite all year.

1295
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: Never stop being the favorite, even when Malake Beasley was

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 5: making his run at most threes this season.

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: So I guess people just give.

1298
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 5: A lot of props to Pritchard, and you know, it's

1299
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 5: a way to show the Celtics a little bit of

1300
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: love for a season when they're kind of flying under

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00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 5: the radar.

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00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeap quick trivia for you guys. Guys are usually pretty

1303
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: good at this. He is the fourth player to earn

1304
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: the honor for the Celtics sixth Man of the Year.

1305
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: Can you name the other three winners?

1306
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, Kevin McHale won it. He won it twice.

1307
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did.

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00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: He won it Twiceton won That's right. He won it

1309
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: the year after Kevin McHale won it those two years.

1310
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: Dennis Johnson, No, this is the tough one. Okay, good here,

1311
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: john No, you gotta go a lot more reading.

1312
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: Or Isaiah Thomas No. No.

1313
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: Six Man of the Year and Marcus Smart one defensive

1314
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: player of the year.

1315
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: Was he in six man?

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: No?

1317
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: Malcolm did it?

1318
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: Was a Malcolm Brogden in twenty two to twenty three.

1319
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: Gotten one.

1320
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so at Pritchard to the last of Celtics players

1321
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: to win six Man of the Year. And the other

1322
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: Celtics news Jason Tatum doubtful at least the time I

1323
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: wrote this for tonight's Game two matchup with the Magic

1324
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 3: because of a bone bruise in his right wrists. Tu

1325
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: sustained the injury during Sunday's Game one win. He took

1326
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: that flagrant fowl from Contavious Caldwell Pope. I guess Wendell

1327
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: Carter Junior is sort of in the mix there as well.

1328
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: He landed on his right wrist during the game. He

1329
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: finished the game, and he told reporters afterward that the

1330
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: X rays came back negative, but he was seeing sort

1331
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: of grabbing at it and stuff like that. So he

1332
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: is doubtful for Game two tonight against Orlando. It can

1333
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: probably beat through Orlando Magic without Jason Tatum, So I

1334
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: wonder if they really just slow play this and just say, hey,

1335
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: just take a couple of days to rest it, and

1336
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: we'll see if we can take care of business. But

1337
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: he could play, of course tonight exactly.

1338
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: That's kind of how I'm feeling about things. Doubtful is

1339
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 5: not out, which means that theoretically Tatum could play, and

1340
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 5: more than likely it's going to be a pain tolerance slash.

1341
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: Do you have enough strength in your wrist sort of thing?

1342
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 5: If he had a sprain or a tear or like

1343
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: a broken bone, he'd be out right like this means

1344
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 5: there's still a potential he could be there, and it

1345
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: might be just a We handled things pretty easily in

1346
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: game one with Jason Tatum playing all that well. He

1347
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: went eight for twenty two, scored seventeen points. They could

1348
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: easily beat the Magic without Jason Tatum. And if you

1349
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 5: were to sit tonight, that would mean their next game

1350
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: is it until Friday, So off from Sunday until Friday.

1351
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 5: That's enough time for your risk to heel up, get

1352
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 5: your legs underneath you. I wouldn't be surprised if Tatum

1353
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: doesn't play, just out of precaution, because Celtics probably still

1354
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 5: feeling pretty good about their chances.

1355
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: Right, But better chance for Orlando, that's for sure. As

1356
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: a guy who is their playmaker. Even though he didn't

1357
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: have a great offensive game shooting the ball, the thing

1358
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 4: goes through him. He played by far the most minutes

1359
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: for them, and you know he bored it hard. So

1360
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: I do wonder, you know, who will the ball go

1361
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: through a little bit more. Obviously it's gonna go through

1362
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: their guards a little bit. But we'll see if Jalen

1363
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: Brown and his knee that's close to one hundred percent,

1364
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: but is not the same as it was during the

1365
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: regular season. We'll have to put a lot more on

1366
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: his shoulders tonight.

1367
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: Yesterday, Al Horford reiterated his belief that the Magic stepped

1368
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: over the line when it came to their physicality with Tatum.

1369
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: He said, quote, yeah, there was something extra, There was

1370
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: a lot. It was a second or third time that

1371
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: especially Contavious Caldwell Pope.

1372
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: Went at him in that way.

1373
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: This is Al Horford, stoic Al Horford, and he was

1374
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: showing a motion. I remember that game and like during

1375
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: that play he was very pissed off. Do you do

1376
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: you think there's some truth to what Al saying or

1377
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: is he over exaggerating here a little bit? Like did you, like,

1378
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: be honest, you got the point in our instigator draft.

1379
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: Were you surprised that did get a flagrant foul on

1380
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: the play where Tatum goes down and landed awkwardly on

1381
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: his wrists when he got sort of met at the

1382
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: rim there and sort of a little bit from behind,

1383
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 3: no doubt by Ksep and Wendell Rginet.

1384
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, if the footage stopped right after the play and

1385
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: you didn't see that Tatum was injured, then yeah, I

1386
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 4: would not have called a flagrant. Yeah, but it's it's

1387
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: about Tatum being down and out and then and he.

1388
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: Just he's in the air. You thought it was.

1389
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: That's what the officials are determining, that he can't sort

1390
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: of protect himself.

1391
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: I think so. I think that's the definition that Steve

1392
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: Jabby would throw at him, or Monty McCutchen or whoever

1393
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: was talking from secaucas Steve. Yeah. As far as what

1394
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: Al Horford is saying, I don't know. I don't think

1395
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 4: Orlando was that over the over the line at all.

1396
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: Okay, they're just big followers, so you know, definitely a

1397
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 5: rough play to hit a guy out of the air.

1398
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: But we'll see if anybody takes a shot at KCP.

1399
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 5: You know, that's the way to get back. Not just

1400
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 5: talking about it, be about it. Al, I can't see

1401
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 5: exactly who's the guy on the Celtics who would actually

1402
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 5: take a cheap shot at somebody. And that's the weakness

1403
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: with the Celtics right there. Xavier Tillman I think is

1404
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: the dirtiest guy.

1405
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: He's not even dirty because they don't have one.

1406
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, no dirty clean, Yeah, Joe would do it. Snap, Yeah,

1407
01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: put him in a figure.

1408
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: For even Missooli. After Tatum went down, isn't he like

1409
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: holding out? Yeah, he's holding back his own.

1410
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: Training staff to go out and check out get up

1411
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: the many.

1412
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: That he was asked about that it's all about love, man,

1413
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: it's our relationship, but love.

1414
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, rock some dirt on it. Yeah, exactly,

1415
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: all right.

1416
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: We'll see if there's any repercussions after that Game one

1417
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 3: hard fall. Whether Tatum plays Magic Celtics Game two tonight,

1418
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: he Cavs Game two, Warriors Rockets Game two, I think

1419
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: that's the one everybody's most excited about. But you never know.

1420
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: One of those teams.

1421
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: Could could tie up a series here and suddenly it's

1422
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 3: a little more interesting. But it feels like the sure

1423
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: Rockets got to win here tonight, can't go down too

1424
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: going back to the Bay.

1425
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 5: Yes, we will see if Houston is able to generate

1426
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 5: any sort of offense. They were okay, they were good

1427
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: enough at least I think defensively in what it was

1428
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 5: ninety five eighty five ended up being the final score

1429
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 5: in Game one Rockets versus Warriors, and I think Golden

1430
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: State's defense will continue to show up, just like I

1431
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 5: think Houston's defense will continue to show up. The question

1432
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 5: is how can he did score some points because eighty

1433
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 5: five ain't gonna win a playoff again.

1434
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: Yes, that's always a question with them. Question with the

1435
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: Calves if you don't get tye Jerome's career game in

1436
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 4: the playoffs because he's only had one game in the playoff,

1437
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 4: but also just a monstrous fourth quarter, are you still

1438
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: gonna win? I mean the heat, we're doing a good

1439
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: job of keeping Domin Mitchell out of the lane, and

1440
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 4: so it was a close game until Ty Jerome was

1441
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: a monster in the fourth quarter. So I'm looking forward

1442
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 4: to all three games. You gotta be completely honest, and

1443
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: Clutch of the Year gets announced as well. Geez okay,

1444
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: touch player of the Year.

1445
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 3: Is winning in it's either Brunson, Jokich or who's the third.

1446
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: Person, Anthony Edwards. I guess this one's the numbers line.

1447
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: I sound excited, but is it all? It can be?

1448
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: All that Frontson wins this thing.

1449
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, those two, but we'll see yeah, okay, wow,

1450
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: So we're just gonna start, yeah, announcing these like almost

1451
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 3: every day.

1452
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: Here they award a day they dropped.

1453
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: They dropped the announcement of when they will be announce

1454
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year tomorrow, say, and the Hustle Award.

1455
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that one is. That one is numbers, that one is.

1456
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: I think that one's not even voted.

1457
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like John Schuman just decides

1458
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: that one.

1459
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: He goes through the NBA sort of. So it's gonna

1460
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: be Daniels and Daniels, right, deflection guys, deflection monster.

1461
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 4: He's a monster. He has to yeah.

1462
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Marcus Smart wins this all the time. I

1463
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: think has barely played this season, yea or last Daniels

1464
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: is a good call.

1465
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, So just those three Clutch Deepy and Hustle Award,

1466
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: while MVP Coach of the Year, Most Improved Player, and

1467
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: Rookie the Year will be announced later. Oh, we'll figure

1468
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 4: it out, all right. You know, we might want to

1469
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: keep it until the second round, third round of she

1470
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 4: is going to be there, you know, it depends depends

1471
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 4: on our guy gets bounced or not.

1472
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: All right, Well, well we're gonna be back tomorrow morning

1473
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: at ten am Eastern live from the Classic Factory to

1474
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: talk about all three, Game two tonight and whatever Award.

1475
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: They are announcing the Clutch Player of the Year a

1476
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: whole lot more. So hopefully you'll join us, hit the

1477
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: like button, subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews.

1478
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: Until then, Clipper.

1479
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: Bros, you heard it here first, have a great time,

1480
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: turn up, love you guys awesome.

1481
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember, Anthony Edwards was fined

1482
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars for grabbing his crotch while arguing with

1483
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 4: the fan last year in the first round. He didn't

1484
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: get fined for doing the DX crotch chop. So Adam

1485
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 4: Silver must like wrestling, So that's what I'm saying. Maybe

1486
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 4: perhaps I don't.

1487
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: Feel like players are getting fined very much for that.

1488
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: That's the one way to go about it.

1489
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 5: And you know, Big Balls Dance can't comment on the

1490
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 5: size of it to a fan, but you can direct

1491
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 5: people's eyes to that region.

1492
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the move.

1493
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: That's what any Edwards literally said that.

1494
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, they were.

1495
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 5: Okay with him saying you're broke. Rudy Gobert makes more

1496
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 5: money than you. Yeah, once he brought the ding dong

1497
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 5: into Nope.

1498
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: That's fifty k.

1499
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: I guess twenty five for each nut brace the eight people,