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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Barnheimer, and when I was five years old,

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Speaker 1: Off the Beat. As always, I'm your host, Brian Baumgartner,

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Speaker 1: and that was Kyle Bornheimer you've just heard from Today.

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, I just knew okay, step by step,

429
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: Now let me see if I can get some TV

430
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: work and stuff and small TV work and each thing.

431
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: But I plenty of crises, plenty of personal crisis in

432
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: my late thirties and late twenties and early thirties before

433
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: I was able to have a sustained career of life.

434
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: If I hold on too long and I don't get

435
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: something that sort of gets me to the next level,

436
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: this is gonna get scary for me. This is psychologically

437
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: and financially in everywhere else you know, Well, Kyle is

438
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: being modest. There was a period of time that Kyle

439
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: was on television more than Ellen de Generous Uh commercials Galore, Geico, Staples, Cores,

440
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: Light t Mobile, Stanley Uh. He made a mission could

441
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: Troll in a Man's Bowels where I improvised the line

442
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: code brown. Yeah, very basic, but very I committed to it. Yeah.

443
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: Now were you at this time? Would you get recognized

444
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: on the street for your commercials? You must have, I

445
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: think so. I think there was a couple that you

446
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: know would play very nationally. The team Mobile one was

447
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: the was the one that actually that other people saw

448
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: it got me a big TV thing right after that.

449
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there was an article down are

450
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: very very randomly and Entertainment Weekly did an article called

451
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: the called the thirty second Man about this very thing

452
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: like like that got Yeah, that was really I just

453
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: actually I was going through a bunch of mementos the

454
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: other day and saw the article, which was really fun

455
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: to see. But yeah, no, very fortunate and very um

456
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: to the point of like I had seen a plan

457
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: for myself. One thing I did during that time is

458
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: worked at a commercial casting studio. So I don't know

459
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: if you have two hundred South Librea. Of course it

460
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: was the hub literally central in the city, and you

461
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: had eight or nine cast directors working at this place.

462
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: You would see everyone in town there every day. You

463
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: and I probably saw each other before we knew each other,

464
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: and I worked there. So when you would sort of

465
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: work for the cast directors and there was a there

466
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: was a job that you were right for, they say, O, Kyle,

467
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: come in on this PEPSI thing or whatever. So you

468
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: just were around it all day and exposed. So I

469
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: remember that that was a big key to me, sort

470
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: of like staying in the game, you know, in a

471
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: really smart way, like just to sort of be around

472
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: it all the time. Does two hundred Southubria still exists?

473
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, I think it does actually, And whether

474
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: they may have moved. There's a great cast director that

475
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: cast me in so many of those named Ross Lacey,

476
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: and I think he yeh, and he might have moved

477
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: it or or sold it or but he was excellent

478
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: and really instrumental. If you're listening, Ross, thank you for

479
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: my career to hundred two hundred South Lebrea. For those

480
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: of you listening, you have you have to understand that

481
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: it's the craziest thing. And this is like there's no parking,

482
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: very little parking, impossible to park. And you would enter

483
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: the building up a tiny stairwell. I can remember it

484
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday, and you would go up this

485
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: tiny stairwell and as you're going up this like two

486
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: flights of stairs, you would pass seventeen actors that you

487
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: knew kind of and then you would get to the

488
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: top and there were yeah, well you probably know better

489
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: than me, but like yeah, eight or nine rooms off

490
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: of a giant bullpen. The bullpen a huge like almost warehouse,

491
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: either either actors or two It was like like you

492
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: and two other people because at the end of the

493
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: day or there were eighty just aspiring everything. Yeah yes,

494
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: and waiting to go in one room and like yes,

495
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: So emodium was one room, PEPSI was another room, T

496
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: mobile was another, and you and they would be inside

497
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: and the thing this God, you there were no chairs.

498
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: When there were was there were carpeted blocks right like

499
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: huge like uh huge areas that were carpeted that you

500
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: would just sort of like kind of sit on, I guess,

501
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: and very uncomfortably held elbow to elbow with everybody else,

502
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: everybody running their little lines. They would you would you would,

503
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: you know, it's that surreal thing where it's like you

504
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: were a type and so you would go and you

505
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: would see a bunch of views there. You would just

506
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: see I would see a bunch of kyles there, you know,

507
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: either new kyles I've never seen or other kyles that like, hey,

508
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: what's up, Brad, Like we always see each other at

509
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: these I mean, this is the head shot days. Like

510
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: you you would have your head shot probably when I

511
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: started Black and White head shot. So I remember the big,

512
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: big switch to color. So and then when you got

513
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: little hallway. Yeah, you would see an actor in a hurry,

514
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: or an actor that just was piste off about their audition,

515
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: and an actor who felt good or with an actor

516
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: who had the greatest attitude, always like like he's always

517
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: in a good mood. You know he'll be fine, you know,

518
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: like you would see every type of actor coming down

519
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: that those stairs. Yes, no, it's totally true. Or for me,

520
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: I think always like parking semi legally and it was

521
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: just like I just needed to get back out to

522
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: my car quickly as possible, so just like, Hi, Hi,

523
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: how's it going? Club at the time, I remember having

524
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: the club on the steering wheel, which locked the steering wheel?

525
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: Did I put the club on? As you're so many

526
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: and you know, lovely people that would work there, but

527
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: also overworked people, and so you didn't always get the

528
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: most polite room. In commercially, your casting is normally a

529
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: very warm, polite rooms in most in most instances, but

530
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: because of the speed of it and because you're working

531
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: with like eight hundred different clients in those rooms, they

532
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: could be rough, rough rooms in terms of how you

533
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: felt as an actor you could get shuffled in there

534
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: and kind of feel a little like mistreated. And this

535
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: was part of the thing. It wasn't like a horrible mistreatment,

536
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: but it was just like, if there's one aspect of

537
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: casting that had that, it was the commercial and even

538
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: shooting commercials sometimes everything else you're pretty well taken care of,

539
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: especially with cast. And I always tell actors that who

540
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: are nervous about auditions, it's like they want you to

541
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: do well. They want you to be the answer to

542
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: their problem. They want you to come in and surprise

543
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: them or be exactly what they were looking you know,

544
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: so they're rooting for you. Every room you go into

545
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: is rooting for you. They don't want an awkward experience either.

546
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: They want their answers solved. And so yeah, yeah, but

547
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: to your to your point in terms of commercial I've

548
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: never really thought about this before, but I think when

549
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: you're dealing with brands, you're dealing with at times you know,

550
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: the executives, and they're not they're not artists, so they're

551
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: not looking to take care of you. And I remember

552
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: probably feeling like you would enter the threshold of the

553
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: room from this, you know, there's eight people bustling around.

554
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Your name would be called. You would walk through the threshold,

555
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: and at times they would look at you and then

556
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: just immediately looked down like you are clearly not the

557
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: look that they want. It doesn't matter what you say

558
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: or do, because it's all about this look that they're

559
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: looking for. And then you have to kind of continue

560
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: for the next few minutes knowing this is just not

561
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: happening and that yeah, exactly. Um. Early on you break

562
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: out of doing commercials, you start doing some guest star roles,

563
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: and my research has indicated one of the first scripted

564
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: shows that you did not the first, but one of

565
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: was a little television show called The off Us. I'd

566
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: have to look into that and see what was it

567
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: called again? The Office? Yeah, Office, talk to me about

568
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: the audition for that. Had you met Alison Jones before

569
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: or was that new? Was this? Did this had anything

570
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: to do with the commercial stuff? Because this was a

571
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: local ad where Michael tries to create a local ad

572
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: and your ad man, Um, let's go to a clip.

573
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: J Yeah, it is a brilliant and I'm sure your

574
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: fans the minute you said the local ad episode, they

575
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about because it's hilarious and

576
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: that was that was so fun and that the show

577
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: was that season three, four four, episode nine of season

578
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: four of season four and um, Jason who had just right,

579
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Jason Reitman, and he had just directed Juno, and Juno

580
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: was not out yet, but it was getting like festival

581
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: love and stuff. And I remember him like jokingly putting

582
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Juno stickers all over the set because he was like, yeah, yeah, Um.

583
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: So Alison Jones is and you know this completely responsible

584
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: for so many people's careers. My you know, one of

585
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the handful of cast directors that are just like my

586
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: guardian angels in this business and who I constantly you know,

587
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: just thanking because she Now it's interesting, was that what

588
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: years that two thousand seven, this would have been oh nine,

589
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: probably oh eight oh nine. It might she might have

590
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: just been starting to get me, because around that time

591
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: she cast me in a few things and then and

592
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: then since then, I guess that has been just a

593
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: great booster in my career, so wonderful. So this might

594
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: have been one of the first things with her. One

595
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: thing I did around that time is I worked. I

596
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I did this thing called real Prose. Do you remember

597
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: Real prose or any of those casting workshops, and they

598
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: had a somewhat of a controversial moment because they was

599
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: considered paying for auditioning and so, but it really it

600
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: was like a workshop and then and once a week

601
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: or so they'd bring casting directors in and you could

602
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: actually audition for them in this workshop, in this class.

603
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: I was doing that a lot around that time. I

604
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: actually got a few little things from that. I don't

605
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: think Allison was, so I actually don't remember the audition process,

606
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: doubt very highly. I was. It was like an offer,

607
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: so I must have auditioned for it. And remember I

608
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: remember the striking thing about that was like, oh, you guys,

609
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: like most of the cast stays in on all scenes,

610
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: so like actors always kind of like, oh, I'm not

611
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: in this scene, great, like it's great, But in the

612
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: office they're like, no, you guys need to be in

613
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: the background. And I were you. Do you remember that

614
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: scene by any chance, or or that episode if you

615
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: would have been back in that because that probably we

616
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: might have met that day. You guys were all, yeah,

617
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure that we did. I do remember I

618
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: went back and looked at some of the stuff in

619
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: preparation for talking to you. But it was a crazy

620
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: thing because yeah, like you said, we were all all

621
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: there almost all the time. So unless you know, you

622
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: had some characters who went to a restaurant or did

623
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: something else, we were all sort of sort of there. Um,

624
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: do you have any memories of being there or of Steve.

625
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: It was one of those things, Yeah, where you this

626
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: happens sometimes, and I'm sure in the office you guys

627
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: had this all the time. You kind of get the

628
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: best seat because there was so much observing in that show,

629
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: so much time where you're just sort of like you're like, Okay,

630
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: this person gets to do their thing now, and I'm

631
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: literally just reacting and Steve, I just remember being in

632
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: the presence that we were. I was already a fan

633
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: of his, and where I just got to sit across

634
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: from him. I just fed him a couple of lines

635
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and he got to you know, he had a scripted version,

636
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know, you get that, and then when once

637
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: that was gotten, he was like go off on his own.

638
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: And the whole bit is that he keeps building this

639
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous commercial idea. So it's really like a comedians dream,

640
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Like all right, give me a couple of takes where

641
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: I just get to build the most ridiculous ambition for

642
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: this this local commercial. So I just remember being charmed

643
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: by that very hum humble and quiet. You know, you're

644
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: being a guest star, co star and those things you

645
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: really don't want to step on anyone's toes. So I

646
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I just sort of like a fly on the wall,

647
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: but also like you're always pinching yourself in this business

648
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: that you're getting to do it. So it was like,

649
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: I hope I'm prepared enough to do that what I

650
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: got to do, and also kind of enjoy it while

651
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. This is really exciting, and so I

652
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: just remember kind of just sort of enjoying getting to

653
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: watch him work, and also great professionalism by all of you,

654
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and just like camaraderie. So I remember that a couple

655
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: of you guys, and I'm not sure if you were

656
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: like we're playing like fantasy football. I think it was

657
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: like Dwight and Jim, we're like, but in real life

658
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: they were like in between takes, they were they were

659
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: like looking at their fantasy scores together, and I just

660
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: saw like your sweet friendship friendliness and it was just me, Yeah,

661
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: we just recorded for this our super Bowl episode where

662
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: we had are a commissioner on and uh we just

663
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: finished our eighteenth year doing the Office Fantasy Football League,

664
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, those times we might have still been

665
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: drafting on a yellow legal pad. But maybe I do

666
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: remember that looking down, or maybe he was using a laptop. Yeah,

667
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the phone smartphone quite yet? Yeah, no,

668
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: not quite. Um, you mentioned before you kind of get

669
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: a big break here. You get cast as the lead

670
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: in Worst Week for CBS and this was because of

671
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: a commercial you were in. Is this how this started? Yeah?

672
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean that was like a big loan process. I

673
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: auditioned with a bunch of people, and then the project

674
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Michelle thro a year or something. And in the meantime,

675
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the great Jay tars As, the creator of several shows

676
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: I think, including The Merry Time and War Show, was

677
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: the father of Matt Tarsas, another brilliant mind in this

678
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: business who is a show creator and TV writer. And

679
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Jay told his his son, Hey, Divy seen this commercial.

680
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: This This is like probably the energy you're looking for

681
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: for Worst Week, and and Matt was like, I think

682
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: I've seen that kid. I think he might have come

683
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: in last spring. So they brought me in again, and

684
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: thankfully I did the whole process of coming in a

685
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: couple of times, then testing in front of the CBS

686
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: executives and probably read three or four times to get it.

687
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: But without that phone cam, without that commercial or I

688
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had that chance, which which was extraordinary. And

689
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: CBS wasn't really doing the single camera comedies at the time,

690
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: so this was their big swing with with single camera

691
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: comedies and lovely, amazing experience all around. This really was

692
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: happy and Matt Tarsus is amazing, and it was great

693
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Cat working with Smith and was still friends with now

694
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: and and uh it was it. Yeah, it was great.

695
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: It was based on a British show which this is

696
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, The Office is taking off, and

697
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I wondered, I wondered about that, like CBS taking a

698
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: run at single camera British adapted shows. Well, yeah, you know,

699
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. Yeah, I think there was

700
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: a lot of that going on, and looking back, you're

701
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: at it hadn't really pieced it all together, but there was. Yeah,

702
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: that was definitely that, and they weren't really they had

703
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: all their multi cam stuff working really well for them,

704
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: so Ultimately we got to shoot I think eighteen episodes

705
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and they aired I think fourteen to them or so,

706
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: which for me was I remember a lot of people being,

707
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, feeling really bad for me, Like when we

708
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of had the feeling that it was going to

709
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: get canceled, and I was like, when you're coming up

710
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: in l A, every single small step is like a

711
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: huge deal that you are proud of yourself for, you know,

712
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: like that, you know, I got into audition for a pilot.

713
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: That's huge. Oh, the pilot is actually go I got

714
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: a part in the pilot. That's good. Oh, your pilot

715
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't go to series. I don't know that the next one,

716
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm in the game. You know. It's like,

717
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: so I remember being sad that I wasn't gonna get

718
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: to work with Aaron Hayes and Matt and Kurtwood and

719
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Nancy and all. You know. Fred Willard played my dad

720
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: in that show. I mean, I couldn't. There was no

721
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: world where there was anything bad about you know. Yeah,

722
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: it's it's sad to lose it, but like I got

723
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: to have Fred Willard play my dad, you know, and

724
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: he actually looks like my dad in real life. So

725
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: it's it's just sort of like looks like yeah, yeah, yeah,

726
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: its like Ron and friend. You're like, Kyle, your dad

727
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: looks like too many people also weirdly and Thomas he

728
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: kind of looks like Steve Martin too. Actually there's a

729
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: right behind me. It was a picture of my dad

730
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: from his days back in the U in South and

731
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: WSBT news. Um. But yeah, I mean it was just

732
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, getting a big show is is life changing.

733
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: You know. Do you feel like that gave you confidence

734
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: moving forward? I mean having that experience of doing that

735
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: that same role every day sixteen eighteen weeks or whatever

736
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: it was it did. It gave me a couple of

737
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: different things with that. It taught me both good and

738
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: bad about my own approach to that stuff. I really

739
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: wore myself out with it and I and I had

740
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: a very specific way that I wanted to like do

741
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: the physical comedy and and I was it was my

742
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: first time like being that big on a show or

743
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: being like the lead of a show, and I think

744
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I put a lot of pressure on myself. I had fun.

745
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like stressed out or nervous. I was

746
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: like I had fun, But I was like very like,

747
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: do you know did we get that? And should we

748
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: do another one? I have another you know, I didn't

749
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: understand TV. I didn't understand that. You know, these directors

750
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: had a shotlist they needed to get through, you know.

751
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: For someone I thought, like somebody that came from like

752
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: wanting to be a director, I would be much more

753
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: understanding about that. But I was like, can we do

754
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: twelve more takes? Please? Because I think you know? So

755
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I think I was very much like and I was like,

756
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. You know, I slipped, but it

757
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: looked like I knew I was gonna slip. I want

758
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: to make it more surprising when I slept whatever. So

759
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I was very kind of demanding on myself and then

760
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: ignorance of the process. So I feel like if I

761
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: went back in time, I would just be a little

762
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: more like, oh, everyone has a job to do here,

763
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: and I need to make sure that I'm not like

764
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: stepping on toes. So I think I just learned how

765
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a better professional, and

766
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: that came also from working with people and watching them.

767
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Kurtwood Smith was was excellent to just sort of being

768
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: a great model for how to conduct yourself. And it

769
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: probably took me a few years to learn how to

770
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: like get what I wanted to get across in the

771
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: in the earlier takes, you know, it's quicker, especially for television,

772
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: so that I didn't feel like I left anything out there,

773
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: and I did feel like I was slowing anything down,

774
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: because you never want to be the person that's slowing

775
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: anything down. I always like tell people like kind of

776
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: learned early on what everyone has to do on set

777
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, so that you kind of understand how the

778
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: whole production works as a whole. So I think just

779
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: that learning experience was key. Um, and then knowing that, yeah,

780
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I just taught you like what you need to get ready, Like, oh,

781
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do this kind of joke, this is

782
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: the kind of preparation I need for it. So yeah,

783
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: such a learning experience. You have guest starred on an

784
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: incredible number of what I'm just gonna call today to

785
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: make it simple, Hall of Fame shows. So we're gonna

786
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: play a new game games with Kyle. This is going

787
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: to be first thing that comes to mind when you

788
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: think of your time working on the following shows. Are

789
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: you ready? Yeah, this is called first thing that comes

790
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: to mind slash Hall of Fame with Kyle. Here we Go,

791
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: How I Met Your Mother? Hybrid no live audience, so

792
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: they they that was the big thing with that um

793
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: is most of it comes always at live audience, and

794
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: they invented this. This didn't invent it, but they really

795
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: did where you didn't always have a lot of audience.

796
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: And I remember loving that because I get very nervous

797
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: with live audiences, and I still it's funny. I don't

798
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: remember the lines right now, but it's something about pregnancy,

799
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: and I just remember I remember sitting there on that

800
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: couch doing that bit. Also same same thing, very proud

801
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: and excited I had a job and like not wanting

802
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: to screw it up, breaking bad. The greatest thing in

803
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: the world. He is amazing. So when you talk about

804
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: like a model for professionalism, he is the exact model.

805
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: He got. This is their first season. It wasn't big,

806
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: No one knew that this was gonna be the iconic

807
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: show was. But he got a gift for me, Like

808
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: the minute I walked in my trailer. He was just

809
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: so accommoding to everyone, was just so lovely with everyone.

810
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: The whole set was doing like something I think because

811
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: we're talking. We're talking about Brian Cranston, right, Sorry, he

812
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: bought you a gift? Yeah, yes, he gets everybody that

813
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: comes on that set of gift like a really nice

814
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: welcome gift and maybe even a goodbye gift. And I

815
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: don't think I was there for more than two days,

816
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: and so he just very I know, now you feel bad,

817
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: don't you? Like now I'm like, shit, I don't know

818
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: if I've got enough gifts for people I don't know,

819
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: and even family members, I don't know if I've got

820
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: enough gifts for And this guy's getting No, he's like

821
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: and he's just so present to everybody while doing these

822
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: amazing like okay action and then he has to do

823
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: this guttural heat emotional performance and it's not like he

824
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: like snaps out of it right away. He just he

825
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: knows how to Like he's just kind and wonderful profession

826
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: He's one of my best models I ever saw for

827
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: like how to conduct yourself. So that's what I remember.

828
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: And then just also it was the writer's strike, so

829
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: I think were finishing production like the day I was

830
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: leaving because they had the writer's strikes. So I think

831
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: that first season had less episodes than the other ones.

832
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: And I just remember looking back being like, oh, no

833
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: one knew at this time. Everyone had confidence in the show,

834
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: and it looks great and it was really fun and

835
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: everyone I kind of knew it was good material and

836
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: no one knew it was going to become, you know,

837
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: one of the greatest shows of all time. That is insane.

838
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: That is insane. I'm going to share with you a story.

839
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that i've shared this story. If I

840
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: have listeners, then go back. I don't think I have.

841
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: I was invited to join the Television Academy and I

842
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm I'm in the Academy now and

843
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I need to do my part. And I remember that

844
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: year for the Emmys, I signed up to be a

845
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: special judge on basically everything that I could, so like,

846
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: I think I wasn't allowed to do anything for comedy.

847
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: That was it. So it was like Best Actor in

848
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: a Drama, Best Supporting Actor in a Drama, Best Get

849
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Star in a drama. By the way, what this means

850
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: is you have to watch a tremendous number of hours

851
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: of television and then you guys are then put the

852
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: pool together that then has made it in denomination. No,

853
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: So I think what it is is we were given ten.

854
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: So the member the membership at Hole had sort of

855
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: gone down to ten. And what I knew was this.

856
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: What I knew was I had never heard of Breaking Bad,

857
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: and I knew that there was a huge percentage of

858
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: the membership that had never heard of Breaking Bad. So

859
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: to get down to that ten, I wasn't sure how

860
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: Brian Cranston at that moment had gotten to be one

861
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: of those ten, just because when when you're in the

862
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: academy and you vote, you just vote for what you know.

863
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: I had not heard of this show, and I was

864
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: studied television. So I got the ten tapes and I

865
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: mean tremendous performances from those days, all of them, and

866
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: then you had to rank them one through ten, and

867
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: they used that in combination in with the larger academy

868
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: to decide who wins the Emmy. And I watched those

869
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: ten tapes and for those of you listening right now,

870
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: we're not talking to Brian, but that performance in the pilot,

871
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: it was the pilot was so unbelievably amazing. I mean

872
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I was blown away. I hadn't heard of the show.

873
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the show. I went immediately and found

874
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: all of the episodes to watch at that moment. And

875
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: he won the Emmy that year because not just did

876
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I put him one, everybody who was in that pool

877
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: had to put him one because there just wasn't there

878
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: could not have been enough people like in other words,

879
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: as a member, I hadn't voted for him because I

880
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: hadn't seen the show. I didn't I didn't know. Anyway,

881
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: I will never forget watching that performance for the first

882
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: time and and seeing that and the fact that he

883
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: was so kind and nice. He directed on the office

884
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: as well, and I got to, um, but that's amazing. Uh,

885
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: this is not this is not turned into the rapid

886
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: fire game that I intended. But anyway, that well, that

887
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: was my fault. I tend to get very long than

888
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: did on just no impact answers. Give me one more.

889
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to give one. I'm gonna try to

890
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: give a quick answer. Well, no, don't do that, because

891
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: then I ended up in Eric's lighting three takes in

892
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: a row when he's very polite and and just sort

893
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: of politely asking me to get out of his life.

894
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: H I love that, alright. A couple more West World Western.

895
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: If you ever get a chance to do a Western,

896
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: do it. It's the greatest thing in the world. You

897
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: get to clunk around in boots and the dust kicks

898
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: up in your face and you feel like you're literally

899
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: back in time. I loved it also Season one, which

900
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: we had no idea what we were doing, right, I

901
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: liked that show season one a lot. Modern Family, Oh yeah,

902
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: giggling all the time because it's just there everyone, and

903
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: it is so funny. And the concept was funny, which

904
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: is that Jesse thinks I he was like he flirted

905
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: with me when we were teenagers and he thought that

906
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: I was straight, and he thought he was being too

907
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: like forward with me, and he wanted to apologize, and

908
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I was, yeah, like I just

909
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: wasn't into you, and I every time that that part.

910
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: It was just a great concept. Um. And also I

911
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: just remember that they and you guys probably got in

912
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: this late in the office. They shot like eight nine

913
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: hour days, which is if there anyone out there that

914
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: that is unheard of in this business, but which should

915
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: be more normal at least of you know, nine ten

916
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: hour day rather Okay, last one, better call Saul revisiting

917
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: eight years by My Bath after Breaking Bad. Yeah, Better

918
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: Call Saul. That was another great one where I got

919
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a great of you for the second time. I had

920
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Better Call Saul. Where was it the first time? I forget? Um,

921
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm at a bar and I just get to watch

922
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Odin Kirk do his thing. He had like a big monologue,

923
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: I think, and it's just another thing where I like

924
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: and then I have to come in and say like

925
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: two lines for this first scene. I just remember being like, man,

926
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: better Call Saul had already been kind of a legendary show.

927
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Break Better already been here show, So now I'm just

928
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: on this like legendary set. I think they had won

929
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: the Enmy the year before, and he gave like a

930
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: speech to the crew, like really nice speech to the crew,

931
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: and I just remember pinching myself and feeling fortunate to

932
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: be back on that. And then in the A d

933
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: R session where they needed it, like the after the

934
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: well have you explained to you? Um? They remember them,

935
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: They're like, you just be an asshole, like off camera,

936
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: I want him to be reacting to you being an asshole.

937
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: And and I just remember, like they said, they said,

938
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: say the worst and most awful things you can say.

939
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: And so I just remember doing that, sitting in a

940
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: in a sound booth in North Hollywood, just coming up

941
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: with the Vince had written a few awful things for

942
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: me to say, and just like, I don't know if

943
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I hope or don't hope that that summer is still

944
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: out there. Um, I guess a couple more, but these

945
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: are more discussions Rest Development. You played the character Shannon Ryan.

946
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: That's your wife's name. That's my wife's Did you just

947
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: choose it? No? Uh? What's his name? The creator of

948
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: the show? Oh, my names are escape give me today. Um,

949
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: when you when you edit this, go, when you go back,

950
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: just his name in my voice, my face right away.

951
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: It's funny because my boys have been watching the Rest

952
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: of Development lately. So they were friends. So my wife worked,

953
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: they worked together. She's an executive now at Disney. At

954
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: the time when they were doing the Rest of she

955
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: was an executive on that show, and she was friends

956
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: with with him, and he thought it would be funny

957
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: to call me Shannon, right to call me her name? Um, okay,

958
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: last one, this one, We've got to dive into this.

959
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I've got to understand bow Jack Horseman now you weren't

960
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: in this. You you have not appeared in this to

961
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: my knowledge. But your name is I need to understand

962
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: how this happens? Well, yeah, this basically I have to

963
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: say the line to let people know. The line is

964
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Pickles about dinner tonight? Am I any network with the

965
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: show starring Kyle Bornheimer? Because I have to cancel? Now

966
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: do you know these guys? How did this? How did

967
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: this start? And why why are there so many inside

968
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: jokes about you in in show? What happened? Is this flattering?

969
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: I don't understand it's it Remember earlier when I said, Hey,

970
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here. Um uh so, yeah,

971
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: there's how what's the best Listen? That is a great joke?

972
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: First of all, objectively, that is a killer joke. And yes,

973
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: there was a time when I would get cast and

974
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: and frankly listen, I work hard. I think I do

975
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: well what I do? Um, yeah, I don't know. I

976
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: mean I've always I'm definitely, at least for a long

977
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: time in the network side of network companies, but definitely

978
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: known for like my shows would only be on for

979
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: a year, happy year, sometimes four episodes. Um again, I

980
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: do go back to like I'm just happy to be here.

981
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: And I know as long as my career can keep going.

982
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's no guaranteed you're gonna get on some big,

983
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: long lasting show. And I know that. But that probably

984
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm trying to, like, you know, not tell

985
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: people how hurt I am by it. But I don't know,

986
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: I do. I feel like I have a pretty zen

987
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: perspective on it, and I just know how hard it is. Yeah,

988
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the main takeaway is that

989
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: is a very funny and well crafted joke, and so

990
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be a part of it. Well, I mean,

991
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: look I read I was like, what in the what

992
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: in the hell is this? And then I was not

993
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: sure that we were going to discuss it today. But

994
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: after our conversation, I felt like I felt like it

995
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: was a conversation we could have. Do you know our

996
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: net or do you know any of those guys I do?

997
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: One of my earliest jobs they would never remember, but

998
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: was Blades of Glory. Wait wait, I had a quick

999
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: little saw them. Yeah, yeah, that was my first first movie.

1000
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: I think ever. Um had one line, which is it's

1001
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: Europe or something like that. Our kids now go to

1002
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: school together. I don't think there might be one writer

1003
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: on that staff. I think that at that time that

1004
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: might have known me. I almost hope it wasn't, though

1005
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: I hope it was like so known that just like, yeah,

1006
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, I just saw a trailer for a show

1007
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: with Kyle Brnomer. Let's what's the bet that this is

1008
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna be on six episodes? To uh? You know? I

1009
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: I love most of the show. Did I didn't want

1010
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: show during that period that was is I mean, worst

1011
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: week had a great as it had a great like

1012
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: little cult following ample, but also this show Perfect Couples,

1013
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: which was lovely and I had a wonderful time which

1014
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: was a really neat experiment, you know, like I've never

1015
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: had a bad experience in this. If you're working in

1016
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: this industry, you know, and you have, you know, halfway

1017
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: decent attitude about it, you're usually having a good time

1018
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: because at the very least you're working with really they're nice,

1019
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: kind people, are incredibly talented people usually both and you're

1020
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: sometimes legends. You know, I could be on a bad

1021
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: show that I'm suddenly like working with some legend and

1022
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm just thrilled. Brooklyn nine nine Teddy wells with my

1023
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: old buddy creator Mike. Sure, how did you get involved

1024
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: with that show? Did you know? Mike? Yeah, since I mean,

1025
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: uh we we we now we are kind of neighbors

1026
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: and and our our our boys are are really good

1027
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: friends and we're sort of family friends with Mike and

1028
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: j J. And at the time, I don't think I, um,

1029
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: we knew each other very well, if at all, because

1030
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: that was probably starting to win. And I can't remember

1031
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: if that was an audition or an offer, but either way,

1032
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: it was perfect for me. That was right in my

1033
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: wheel er. So just like a goofy, overly sort of

1034
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: boring dude, you know, probably typecast. Um. Yeah, that one

1035
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: was very easy from the perspective I I kind of

1036
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: knew exactly what I want to do with it was

1037
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: written in a way that you know that shows written

1038
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: so well, like they great secret sauce in that show.

1039
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: Um also works very quick. And I remember a great

1040
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: group like you guys, just a great group of people,

1041
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it's Sony Mike and this was in

1042
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: the office, and this was in Parks and Wreck and

1043
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: then and I've heard us talked about a little bit.

1044
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: They kind of ushered in the but sometimes it's called

1045
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: non conflict comedy, which is like, we grew up in

1046
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: very conflict e comedy, and that seemed to be the rule.

1047
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Like you had to have two opposite roommates that we're

1048
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: always arguing, or you had to have like the asshole

1049
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: at the office that was like saying sexist ship to

1050
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the secret You know, there was always like and I

1051
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: think we've just been with you all of a sudden

1052
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: of like the late nineties early two comedies, there was

1053
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: like a different way in the comedy. And I think

1054
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: that's what like this community of funny people where funny

1055
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: things happen. It's not like because that sort of conflict

1056
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: comedy doesn't work, but it just like a new style

1057
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: and I think he ushered that in and I think

1058
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: it also just created I think this amazing camaraderie with

1059
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: those big casts of eight, nine, twelve people that those

1060
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: shows have. Wow, that is such an interesting point that

1061
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: I have not thought about that before. But you're observational

1062
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: or whatever what you would call it, but it's also

1063
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: like more character based, you know, and you may have

1064
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: idiosyncrasies it's a polite way to say it, or you know,

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Speaker 1: specific character traits that that might be oppositional in a way,

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Speaker 1: but like, yeah, if you think about you know, Dwight

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Speaker 1: or Ron Swanson or those characters, that, yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: it's not like totally oppositional in a way. It's much

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Speaker 1: more ensemble specific characters who are interacting together and quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: most of the time, there's a there's a genuine basis

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: of love and ensemble togetherness that's sort of is behind

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Speaker 1: all of it. It's very interesting. Yeah, I think that quality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to sort of like put my finger out.

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Speaker 1: It definitely was a switch and just a new color

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: to television comedy that was celebrated and fostered in that time.

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: And I think Mike was instrumental that and Greg and

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Speaker 1: all those guys. Yeah, yeah, you've been very busy lately.

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Speaker 1: Avenue five, your interstellar comedy alongside Hugh Lowry and my

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Speaker 1: old buddy Zach was fun show to be a part

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00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: of that. Crazy, fun and and crazy. And Zach is,

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Speaker 1: as you know, one of the great comedic minds and

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Speaker 1: just minds in general. And that guy's mind is he's

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Speaker 1: another one where we all just sit like, okay, Zack,

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Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's that the cameras on Zach

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Speaker 1: and like, what's he gonna do? Um, And yet we're

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Speaker 1: in a spaceship all time, this crazy, humongous spaceship with

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00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: a working elevator, like and you know, our Madi Nichi

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: just sort of composing and conducting this complete chaos with

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: these really subtle sort of social commentary underneath that. All

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Speaker 1: of us about the fourth episode, we're like, oh, wait,

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00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: he's talking about Brexit. We were all like, this is

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: like just this was you know, we didn't even understand

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: like one of the great satirists of our time was

1094
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: like doing a satire again. We're like, oh, this seems

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: like funny goofy space companies. Oh no, he's actually he's

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: talking about how like the rise of tyranny in in uh,

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00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: some of the major nations in the world right now. Um,

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00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: so like we actually got you know, he got to

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: dig deep and living in London was beautiful and and uh,

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Speaker 1: Jessica said Claire, who's a great friend of mine, played

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: We played a husband and wife for like the thirteenth

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: time on screen, weedless love playing off each other, and um,

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Speaker 1: Hugh Laurie is exactly the the amazing sophisticated brit that

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00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: you think he is, and drive a motorcycle and and

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: we're all kind of in awe of him. Well, every

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00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: single person has a crush on Hugh LORI uh so, yeah, incredible.

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Speaker 1: Also high school out now, were you a Teagan and

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00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: Sarah fan? Marginally, I've since become much more. But I

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: I knew like about five of their bigger songs, walking

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00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: to the Ghost and a couple of their hits and

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: the Lego song. I knew about and and knew them

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00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: and always see them like on festival posters when I

1113
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: was I was looking at festivals, so but really thrilled

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: to sort of dive deeper into their work, which is

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: incredibly rewarding. Like they they've had ten or twelve albums

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00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: the last twenty years and so they have a library

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00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: of songs. It's really good. So that was fun and

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00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: getting to know them and reading that book about them,

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Speaker 1: that experience was a great clean of all Or Cantrell,

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Speaker 1: who created the show. And that's I'm sort of rambling

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: now just because I can't think of any other words

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: besides fantastic and awesome. But it's it's the nineties set

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: in the nineties, I love the nineties. I kind of

1124
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: considered myself an expert on the nineties and sort of

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00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: like that indie flavor of the nineties, any movies, any music.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of that kid and this sort of

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00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: minds that world, that part of the nineties, but in

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: a in a from a perspective that I was so

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00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: ignorant of, like embarrassingly so two girls, you know, coming

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00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: of age and coming out and discovering music for themselves,

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: and in a still pretty close minded nineties. Even though

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Speaker 1: we kind of considered nineties the beginning of sort of

1133
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: modern progressive out too, it's about these things, it was

1134
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: still pretty close minded. So sort of seeing that the

1135
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Speaker 1: nineties from that perspective compared to the perspective I had

1136
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Speaker 1: was eye opening. And I'm so glad I got to

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Speaker 1: get that in my life. That's awesome. Kyle. Thank you

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: so much for coming on sharing your story. I'm a

1139
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: big fan of yours. I'll watch you do basically anything,

1140
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: not everything, but basically everything. And I appreciate you coming

1141
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: and uh and taking some time with me today. And

1142
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: I found you you have opened my eyes in a

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Speaker 1: new way. I'm super super fascinated by this. Idea. I'm

1144
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna be thinking about it later today, This idea of

1145
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: of the shift in comedy and the paradigm that those

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00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: guys changed. That's and you're very interesting and you're a

1147
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: delight and I'm not even gonna just say hey anytime.

1148
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: Please please have me back, all right after I had

1149
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: I will canceled shows under my belt and U yes,

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Speaker 1: I will for sure. Thank you, Kyle. Of course, this

1151
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Speaker 1: was great. Thank you so much, Kyle. It's so good

1152
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: to see you again. Thank you for stopping by. I

1153
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: cannot wait to check out your new show, High School.

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Speaker 1: And to those of you out there listening, thank you

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna see you next week with another

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Speaker 1: guest with office roots, Deep deep office routes. Until then,

1157
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: why don't you go out there and for yourselves and

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: for me, just just have a fantastic week, all right,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. Off the Beat is hosted an

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Speaker 1: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer

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Speaker 1: Lang Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers

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Speaker 1: are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent

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Speaker 1: producer is Ryan Papa Zachary and our intern is Sammy Cats.

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