1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Ronan, I go back to the days when starters were 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: two bolts and literally twenty minutes maybe a half hour 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: in a hard car, and it was an announced The 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Centru two hundred and sixty three thousand miles. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Wait for it, wait for wait for it, Just broken in, brother, 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: go ahead, just broken right. Welcome to the radio home 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: of ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since this is 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If you're a mechanics giving you 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five five six, and 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: now he running. Hey, we get to start talking about 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: cars again. How great is this? Hello and welcome Roni 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor here at zero um. I've looked 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: forward to this day. I don't know why I look 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: forward to this all week, just to be able to 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: sit here on the weekend and talk to you about 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: your car and it's problems. So let's kick the garage 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: doors open right away. Let's not let's not waste any time. 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Mary in Massachusetts. Toyota camera and 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: an over drive light issue. Mary, welcome to the car doctor. 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh? Hi Ron, Yeah, I'm glad you. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: I hope you can. Yes. Um, my car is pretty good, 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: I gotta say, but it has started doing this thing 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: where it's um the overdrive light. Um. I'll be driving 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: and suddenly it starts flashing. Sometimes it loses things like 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: it loses a little bit of power trying to go 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: up a hill, so it's intermitten. It's like right now, 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I drove it, you know, around and life's not coming out. Okay. 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Has anybody tried to diagnosis Mary or look at it anyway, 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: shape or form? Well, because of COVID my mechanic I 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: took some time off and he's pretty backed up. So no, 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: nobody has taken a look at it. But I will. 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if this makes a difference. But one 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: of my friends, because my I had a problem with 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: my exhaust and I couldn't get into my mechanics. So 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wait. And so was a surprise. He 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: comporow your car. I said, okay, and he took it 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: gut the exhaust fixed for me as a surprise. President, 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I guess so. Um, but also when he brought it back, 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the mud flap uh was cracked on the side where 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the exhaust is and that's when the O D started happening. Yeah, 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that as a connection. The 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: reason the overdrive light is flashing and this is a 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: nine two. I want to make sure I've got the 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: year right correct, it's a all right. So the reason 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: the overdrive light is flashing because technology was such. This 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: is a pre O B D two car. This is 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: first generation computer control and there is no way to 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: get age or turn on the check engine light. They 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: did it through the overdrive light. If there is a 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: problem transmission related, so the first step somebody needs to 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: do is pull codes out of the trans module. Now 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: we're into separate systems, right. This is early stuff, so 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: you know today's cars, we'd go in through the O 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: B D two port and we would be able to 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: access all the modules because all the telephones would be 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: on the same line. This car is sort of like 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: a hand crank and a dial on a rotary dial 61 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: phone where everything is separate. Yeah. Um, so we've got 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: to check each individual module where we think there's a 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: fault on its own by itself. So they've really got 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: to scan the trans control module, which is going to 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: take an older tool. Your mechanic may or may not 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: have it. A lot of shops. You know, it's Jesus car. 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: You know it's what thirty years old now, uh, you 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: know it's it's either the tool stopped working or the 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: tool has been filed away. But depending upon the makeup 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: of the shops working with a democratic is of the 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: age of the vehicles, he may still have one there maybe, 72 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: And you want to mention this to him. If he says, well, 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't have the tool anymore, there may be a 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: way to count dash lights flashing. There's an underhood connector 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: over on the I believe the right side of the fender. Well, 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: the factory tool would connect there, and it was a 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: method of grounding certain terminals T E C or T 78 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: E and T E C one, um, something like that. 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: There's a procedure that's got to be looked up in 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: reference that will make the dash light flash, and based 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: on it'll it'll flash oh you know, um five quick 82 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: ones and one short one and that would be a 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: fifty one and things like that. You're looking for a 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: flash sequence to give you a direction as to what 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: the fault is. But but know that there's a fault 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: somewhere in the trans control module, and long term, you're 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: not helping the car. You're you're gonna hurt something. So 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: you've got to get it looked at as soon as 89 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: you're possibly. So think it's the transmission, because I know 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: once that goes cars about the end of well, you know, Mary, 91 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: there's there's probably a half a dozen things that it 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: could be before it's the transmission, but it's transmission related. 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Understand the transmission, make the transmission of mechanical gearbox, if 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: that helps you to understand makeing a bicycle chain into 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Sprocket's very mechanical, right. But in two we added some 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: electronic controls and electronic sensors to help that bicycle chain 97 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: shift better. All Right, you've ever been on a ten 98 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: speed and the derailer doesn't work every time, and every 99 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: once in a while it jams up, or it misses 100 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: a gear, misses a tooth, and it just it jumps 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: at jerks, it lurches. So by nine two they decided, 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: well we're gonna add some electronic controls. And this was 103 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: probably as far as the technology went because by nine 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: six O B D two came along, which is the 105 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: next generation. We basically went from a Level one computer 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: to a level too or you know, a Windows ninety 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: eight machine to a Windows seven machine. If that, if 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: that kind of puts a better spin on it for you, 109 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and technology got better. So yeah, this this could be 110 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a transmission failure. This could be an overdrive solenoid problem. 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: This could be a shift control issue, and until somebody 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: scans that for a fault, you're you're just not gonna know. 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: So before we expensive, it depends on what's wrong. You know. 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: It could be it could be five dollars worth of widgets. 115 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: It could be three three thousand dollars worth of widgets. 116 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: So again it right, it's you know, listen, remember did 117 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: anybody ever tell you what the Marines always said before 118 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: they hit the beaches during the landings. They said, let's 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: let's waere do we get there to see if we're 120 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna die? So let's where do we get it scanned 121 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: before we think about what's gonna happen? So all right, 122 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's not condemn the car beforehand all 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: the time. So I'm going to see if I can 124 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: get it in sooner. Yeah, just ask him. Hey, listen, 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: can you can you carve me an hour or an 126 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: hour and a half out of your schedule, you know, 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily to fix it, but just to diagnose it 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: so that I know if the car is okay to drive. 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Because if he tells you it's the transmission and then 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: it needs a trans well, then you know, if that's 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: what the diagnosis comes to. The worst that happens is 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: if you continue to drive it, you're gonna ruin the 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: trans which has already ruined. But if he tells you, 134 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: if he tells you it's a shift control solenoid, that 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: if he just changes that, it only hurts you, know 136 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: you you you just change the solenoid for five bucks, 137 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: let's just you know, round numbers, casual conversation. Um, you 138 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: save yourself that three thousand dollar transmission. And that's that's 139 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: why it's so important to know, you know, it's it's 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of like you've got to you've got a pain 141 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of your chest. Do you have to 142 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: burp or you're having a heart attack, And that's really 143 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: what you're trying to figure out that all right, So 144 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: I thank you so much for on I'm gonna I 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: wrote everything down and I'm gonna give him a call 146 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: on Monday and see what he says, and I'll email 147 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: you or something to late, you know, yeah, let us know. 148 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: And if if he wants to hear our conversation, you 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: can just google Ron and Enian podcast sometime after Sunday 150 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: and this hour we'll come up. This is the first 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: hour day to today, and he can listen to the 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: first segment coming off right out of the top of 153 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the gate, and you know, he can listen to what 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: we had to say, and you know, maybe it'll help him. 155 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: And I'm always glad to, you know, do whatever I 156 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: can to help you. All right, all right, thank you 157 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: so much. You're very welcome. Mary. You take good care. 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero. Running an the 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Car Doctor coming back right after this stop when you 160 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: get keep Ron's number hand eight five five five zero 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: nine zero zero for when you really need advice on 162 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: your car. Here's hey, we are blasting live today. Is 163 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: um down here in the Car Doctor studios. I've got 164 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: Lucy the Wonder Dog with me. She's just sleep at 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: my feet. You know, it's really kind of neat. Hey, 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: lou you want to go do radio, And she kind 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: of trots right in and she likes when she gets 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: to visit us in the studio, and we're glad to 169 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: have her here with us. So let's go cool. Yeah, right, 170 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: because the way we're doing this here, I've got Ted 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: the Wonder Dog sitting in my studio. Now I'm tall. Well, 172 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: Lucy's asleep to Tom. You know, it's it's it's the 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: funniest thing that she just she's just sleeping here at 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: my feet. Um. You know, I was munching out of 175 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: banana during the break and you want a piece of banana. 176 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: She's like, man, Lucy eats bananas. She likes bananas. She's 177 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: a banana dog. It's the funniest thing. But I have 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: to tell you, Tom, we do get, you know, mail 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: from listeners and emails, and a lot of our listeners 180 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: tell me that they're dogs like to listen to the 181 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: show and they sleep real soundly. So I don't know 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: if I'm boring or if I'm soothing or you know, 183 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: I'm not. After the show, Ted goes into the garage 184 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: and works on my wife's car. Come on, now, is 185 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: that what happens? I never thought of it like this, 186 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: learning while he's sleeping, run well like you know what, Tom, 187 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Then um, you know that's then that's a good thing. 188 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: But the dogs are just the best. So but anyway, 189 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Lucy says, a load. She just looked up. Lucy says, 190 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: a load, everybody. Tom. Let's go over to William and Newburgh, 191 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: New York, OH to explore a little follow up on 192 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: a no start call. William, Welcome back, sir. What's the deal? Well, thanks, 193 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: wanted to give you the diagnostic procedure you helped me 194 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: out with. First, I replaced the transponder receiver transmitter that 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: goes around the ignition. Reset that. Then I had five 196 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: volts going to the starter lead. So I traced that 197 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: lead back up and under the car. Somebody must have 198 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: put a crimp splice in there and there was the corrosion. 199 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Yanked that out, re soldered a new one. Obviously, I 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: put a new starter in from last conversation. But we're 201 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: back in business and it starts up fine, and you're 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: very welcome, and you know, the the good thing is 203 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: it's an O two. So to put a starter in 204 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: an O two that unless you know the age in 205 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the origin, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it 206 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: doesn't solve the problem. So now you've got the whole 207 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: picture and you've solved it, and that's that's that's just great, William. 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad for you. Keep on trucking with it, all right, 209 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I will. We're gonna run it until it doesn't go. 210 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: Thanks again, You're very welcome, William. Do to take good care. 211 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's get over to John in New York with a 212 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: fourteen Dodge Ram. What's going on in here? John? Welcome 213 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: to the car, doctor, sir. How can I help? Is 214 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: John there? Hello? John? Let's see we can get the John. 215 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: All right, we can't get to John. Let me tell 216 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: you this story. Well what let me do this? A 217 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: lot going on today. It's a lot of crazy stuff. 218 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: This comes to us from Frank, and I know Frank's 219 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: looking for an answer, so let me let me jump 220 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: in and do this real quick. I was gonna do 221 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: this a little bit. Hey, Ron, looking for tires from 222 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: my nineteen sixty eight Corvette convertible. I've got you know, 223 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: royals on it right now. I need new ones, thanks, 224 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Frank Kilbride. Uh, you know, frankt vet. This is a 225 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: this is a conversation about do we want to look 226 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: something vintage from the past, do we want a modern 227 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: day tire? What are we trying to do? I happen 228 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: to like on a sixty eight VET muscle car that 229 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: vintage in era. Um uh you know, I would? I would. 230 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: I happen to like the U be a good Rich 231 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: radio t as nice looking tired. It's it's vintage, it's 232 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: from the time period. If you can get them in 233 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: that size, all right. If you can't, and I don't know, 234 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm just a you know, a white letter Corvette out 235 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy. I think they just look time appropriate 236 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: to that car. If you can't get those, then I 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: take a look at maybe maybe something from Cooper. Then 238 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: we've got to go to modern day technology. What works? 239 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: You know modern day I think a Cooper would look 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: good on that, A General would look good on that. 241 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: Something with a raised white letter, something with a very 242 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: highway tread if you can line that today, which is 243 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: part of the problem, because everything becomes such an old 244 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: season tire or a criss cross tire, and you're gonna 245 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: have it's gonna compromise ride quality. I think on at 246 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: eight fits, so something with a real good highway tread 247 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: just a good general all around radio. I'm not a 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: fan and this is just a personal preference on a 249 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: sixty eight Corvette of you know, Yokohamas or or some 250 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: of the other um uh hand cooks. I don't know, 251 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: just it just it just good, not not terrible tires. 252 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: I just don't think the look is right because you're 253 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: trying to maintain a vintage look. So B F. Good Rich, 254 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Cooper or General take a look at those, and if 255 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: you need to send me some pictures of those, you've 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: got my email address, do that as well. Let's get 257 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: over and talk to John in New York fourteen RAM pickup. John. 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, Are you there now? Yes? 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Here you go? Hey John, how are you? How can 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: I help UMM? Pick up? That solves intermittently on me 261 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: going on for a while. Deal has dealership has no 262 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: idea what's going on? That's kind of frightening. Um have 263 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: they have they had the problem happened to them? Have 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: they been able to duplicate it? No? You know, I 265 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: said it could be months in between, you know, but 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: but it does. It does continue to happen over the 267 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: less a year and a half for two years. Okay, 268 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: have you on the truck since now? Uh? No, I 269 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: got I voted at about thirty five thousand miles. It's 270 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: now any aftermarket accessories on the vehicle? I okay, So 271 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: what have they done? What you know? Obviously I know, Gosh, 272 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I hope they would tell me. I hope you would 273 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: tell me that they tried to pull codes on it. 274 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: But what have they done? Specific? Have they just pulled codes? 275 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: No codes? John, here's your truck back. You're done? Uh? 276 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: You know pretty much? They said, um, there were no codes. Yeah, 277 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: and then they pretty up they said they had no idea. 278 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Though when I look online, I see the problem is common. 279 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: And what does it? What does online tell you? Is 280 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: this the conversation about the tip of module? Uh? You know, 281 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: there's so many there's so many opinions on it that 282 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: my head is spinning. Okay, Well, what did you read? 283 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's cut to the chase. What did you read, John? 284 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: And which engine is? This is the five seven six four? 285 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: Is a gas engine? Right? Okay? And and what what 286 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: did you read that you believe might be the problem. 287 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I've read everything from the problem with the 288 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: with the gas cap to throttle the control sensor, I 289 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: will control valve. Okay, Well, well a gas cap is 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: not gonna make the car stall, so let's let's let's 291 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: let's get rid of that, all right. Um, you know, 292 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: a stalling condition means you know it's is and when 293 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: it stalls, does it shut off clean like nobody, like 294 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: somebody turned the key off? Yes? Okay, So what we're 295 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: probably deal with, or what we could be dealing with, is, alright, 296 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: a problem with power supply to the power control module 297 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: a PCM. And you know this is not going to 298 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: be an easy repair. I'm not gonna kid you, all right, 299 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: because we've got to at least get a feel for 300 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: what's causing the truck to shut off. It's either an 301 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: input to the PCM, the PCM itself, or a sensor. Now, 302 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: if we want to follow traditional thinking, if for example, 303 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: a crank position sensor was causing that truck to shut 304 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: off and it was an abnormal condition, all right, it 305 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: would likely set a fault code. Okay, but I don't 306 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: want to make that assumption because I have no fault code. 307 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I have no condition to prove that. But it is 308 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind what I would do, 309 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: all right, is if we were going to deal with 310 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: this and deal with it long term. Whenever it happens, 311 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: it happens, And obviously I'm gonna go through and try 312 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: and manipulate the wiring harness. And I don't mean break it. 313 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I just mean if I if I give a little 314 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: tug and twist and pull and poke and prod around 315 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: the wiring harness around the engine compartment, you'd be surprised 316 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: what you can learn, what you can see. Does it 317 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: get the truck to shut off? All right? Does a 318 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: flat pomp smack on top of the power train control 319 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: module get the truck to waiver or shut off? All right? 320 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: When when the truck shuts off? I'd be curious. There 321 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: are set adaptives, and adaptive is the computer's learning number. 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: For conversation. Let's let's say all computers learn at zero, 323 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: all right, and as they get smart and they get educated, 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: they might add a point, take away a point. So 325 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the PCM has gotta learned adaptive of seven, The trans 326 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: controllers gotta learned adaptive before the you know, one of 327 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: the other modules might have a learned adaptive of two. 328 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: All right, Um, do those reset? So I'll tell you 329 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: what John stay on the line step. But let me 330 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: pull over and take this pause and we'll continue this conversation. 331 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm run An any of the car doctor. We're back 332 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, run An the car doctor. John, 333 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: you're still there? Yea. So the issue here is and 334 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: and somebody really needs to have a conversation with you 335 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: as the owner. How how far are you prepared to go? 336 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Because this can be costly And I tell you that, 337 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: I tell you that right up front. Do I think 338 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: this can be fixed? Absolutely depends on time and patients. 339 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: But you know there are things you can do. Even 340 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: though the vehicle is installing right now. Somebody needs to 341 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: look at all the vehicle grounds, all the important critical grounds. 342 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: There's there's there's wiring diagrams for each and every vehicle 343 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: on the road today. Bring up power and grounds distribution. 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Go to every ground location. Make sure they're all good, 345 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: clean and tight. Anything that's going to affect the power 346 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: train control module to starting the running system and and 347 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: everything connected to that, and that takes time. The other 348 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: thing somebody could do is tap into the power leads 349 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: going into the PCM, set up a series of either 350 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: bulbs or some sort of voltage indicator just to see, Hey, 351 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: does John ever see one of these bulbs blink and 352 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: go out saying that the PCM, the powertrain control modules 353 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: stopped receiving power. That would tell us something, all right, 354 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: because understand the average the average vehicle computer has anywhere 355 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: from three to five power inputs. Loss of any one 356 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: of those power inputs will cause the adaptives that I 357 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: was talking about to reset and shut the vehicle off, 358 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: all right, So you know that's definitely on the list. 359 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I would go through the wiring harness like I described. 360 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: I would go through all the fuse boxes. I know 361 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: this truck has to. It might have three. Wiggle gently wiggle, 362 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: don't push it through the panel, but gently wiggle every fuse. 363 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, you'd be surprised what we've what we've seen 364 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: fuses do over the past seven, seven or eight years 365 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: because of how involved vehicles are. You know, Ford's got 366 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: a problem with their with their F one fifties. Uh, 367 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: the underhood fuse block, the fuses are there's too much 368 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: current being pulled through the fuel pump on certain model 369 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: years and it's actually putting a burn spot in the 370 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: fuse and it's causing the truck to not start fuse 371 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: is good. It just has high resistance across the carbon 372 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: point where it's starting to burn the contact. So you know, 373 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: I've just I've learned on on intermittent vehicles like yours. 374 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Go through each and every fuse. Maybe pull each one 375 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: out of the critical ones outlook at them, put them 376 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: back in. I can take that off the list. If 377 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I can eliminate wiring, if I can eliminate grounds, if 378 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: I can eliminate a power input loss, I'm down to components, 379 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: all right. And while that that, that only gets me 380 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: halfway there. At least I know what's good. And in 381 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: a case like this, you know you guys hear me 382 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: say this every week. Knowing what's good will tell me 383 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: what's bad. Does the truck start up right away every 384 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: time after after it stalls? Yes, just just just a 385 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: cycle of the key. Yeah, it's just not not immediately 386 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: within a couple of seconds, but given forty seconds to 387 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: a minute, it starts right up. What happens if you 388 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: try to crank it right away? Does it just cranking cranking, cranking, crank? 389 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't, it's completely dead nothing. Do you have dash 390 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: lights at that point? No? Okay, see what we learned. 391 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Look at what we just learned. John. All right, you're 392 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: telling me the truck stalls, you pull over the side 393 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: of the road, you turn the key off, you turn 394 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: the key back on. You don't have dashlights, right, okay, 395 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: if you don't have dashlights, you have no power input 396 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: into the vehicle. All right, I would take a very 397 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: careful look at battery terminals, battery cables. Did you tell 398 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: this to the dealership? Okay, well then they missed it. 399 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: Because what you're describing to me, if if and understand 400 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: my position, all right, I'm the interrogator in a repair shop. 401 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm the guy that has to sit there and ask 402 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: everybody the questions if if, if, I believe what you're saying. 403 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: And you've got to get this clear in your head, 404 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: so be aware the next time this happens. You know, 405 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: take note of the sea equince and what actually happens. 406 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: But if this is how it happens. The truck stalls, 407 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: you pull over the side of the road, you turn 408 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the key off, you go to start it, and you 409 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: do not get dash lights, all right, the idiot warning 410 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: lights and indications that the car is alive, awake. What 411 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you're describing to me is you're telling me it's as 412 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: if the car has a dead battery, right, Okay, If 413 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: that's the case, let's start looking at power grounds power inputs. 414 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: A PCM is not going to keep the dashlights from 415 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: coming on, alright, but a bad ground will. A trans 416 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: control module is not going to make the car stall 417 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: and keep the dashlights from coming on. But a power 418 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: point coming in from the battery, from the main junction box, 419 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: from a connector coming through the firewall over on the 420 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: left side. All right, we're looking for a power signal. 421 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: A bad ignition switch, you'll keep the car from turning 422 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: on dash lights, all right. So maybe what I want 423 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: to do as a mechanic is go look at the 424 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: wiring diagram for the ignition switch input. Find the main 425 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: power feed coming in. Because listen, everything has a circuit, right. 426 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Think about the lights in your house. You got to 427 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: turn on a light in your house. We all take 428 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: it for granted. There's power on one side. We close 429 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: the switch, it it flows through the bulb and lights up. Boom, 430 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: We're done. If that light didn't light up when you 431 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: flick the switch, what could be the cause. It could 432 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: be a bad bulb, it could be a bad switch. 433 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: It could be no power coming to the switch. If 434 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to prove no power to the switch, how 435 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: would you do it in a car? We would either 436 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: put a meter, or we would wire in a one 437 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: side marker bulb or some small instrument bulb into that circuit, 438 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: and that bulb would be lit. And that's where I 439 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: would start with this. I've had more than a few 440 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: bad ignition switches on cars over the years. I would 441 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: be very leery and wary of power in causing this. 442 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: No start this store all condition as you put it. 443 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: I bet when it happens, I bet it's like what 444 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: I bet. I bet when it happens, and then we're 445 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: gonna run, John, I bet when it happens, it's as 446 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: if somebody turns the key right like boom right. This 447 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: is as as you know what, once you go take 448 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: this truck for a ride and smack the ignition switch, 449 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: abuse that a little bit. Don't don't have an accident, 450 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, just maybe just maybe flat pomp smack, you know, 451 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: beat up the top of the ignition column a little bit, 452 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, can you get the vehicle to shut off? 453 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: Um the ignition switched the electrical portion of that is 454 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: in the column somewhere. I'm not exactly sure on a fourteen, 455 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: but you get my point. It sounds like you're losing 456 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: ignition or you're losing power through and to the ignition switch. 457 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I would focus on that. I'm here for your brother. 458 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: You call me back. You let me know where you are. 459 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: All right? You take good care? Zero moving along, Gotta 460 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: get quicker. We got too many calls today. I'm run 461 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this, 462 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor at five five zero nine zero zero 463 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the car Doctor phone number. Call leave a message. Tom Ray, 464 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: executive producer, will call you back. Get you in the 465 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: next live broadcast. Let's go over to Mike in Montgomery, 466 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: New York, eleven, Chrysler Town and Country Random, no start. 467 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: What is it with Chrysler's and no starts installing today? 468 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: It must be something in the water water Mike. Welcome 469 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, Sir, How can I help? I'm 470 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: doing good? Uh twenty that that car? Uh. About three 471 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: years ago I replaced the battery because it went totally dead. 472 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: And ever since I did that occasionally in the car, 473 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: maybe one to three times a year. It going to 474 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: like a no stock condition, so I would have like 475 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: like a dead battery, so I would run it through 476 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: a new true park. Uh, sometimes it start right up, 477 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes I if you pushed to rock the car 478 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: back and forth to start it, and eventually I just 479 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: uh want to the tipping box and pressed on all 480 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the fuses in it started, and the wire under the 481 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: box also started. And to make a we also when 482 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: I replaced the started because I thought that was the problem, 483 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: but it did it after that. But the question I 484 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: have to you about the tipping if I had that, 485 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: if that is the problem and I had to replace 486 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: where they have to reflash that, yes, like the computer, 487 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: they would write a lot of them. Yes, I believe 488 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: I have. I haven't seen one that hasn't had to 489 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: be flashed yet. So the answer to that is yes now. 490 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think from your description this is the fault, 491 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: but I just want to mention it. You know, this 492 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: particular generation Chrysler also has problems with the fuel pump. Okay, 493 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: all right, and there's there's you also want to get 494 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: your hands on if you're talking about flash and get 495 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: your hands on Chrysler bulletin eighteen, DASH one, thirteen, DASH 496 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: sixteen and It talks about a software update for the 497 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: strategy on how the vehicle computer looks at fuel pump 498 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: input to decide whether or not to run the fuel pump. 499 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: But that won't keep the vehicle from cranking. You're describing 500 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: a no crank condition, correct, right, So, But as long 501 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: as we're troubleshooting and you know, listen, you know years ago, 502 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a little story. Years ago when we 503 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: worked on cars and we did a water pump. You 504 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: did a water pump, you did hose as, you did 505 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: a thermostat, you did cooling. It was a system repair, right, 506 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: same thing, same thing with modern cars. You know, when 507 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: we're working on a no start condition, that's a no crank, 508 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: But there's a known software update for fuel pump strategy 509 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: or known software update for communication on the data bus. 510 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: You know what, get the software update done, software updates. 511 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: To me, it's just the whole system repair. It all 512 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: comes under the heading of the car won't start. You know, 513 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: the last thing in the world you want to do 514 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: is be you know, stuck at the drive in movie 515 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: on Saturday night. I'm dating myself here, Mike, um. But 516 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: you get the idea, and you're trying to get the 517 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: car start at eleven o'clock at night while the starter 518 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: cranks as we put a new starter in it, put 519 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the software will let the fuel pump work. Because there's 520 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: a problem with the software. And now we've got the 521 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: second problem. Let's fix everything all at once. So you know, 522 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: is that something you're thinking of doing yourself to tip them? Uh? 523 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I could, but if it has to be re fleshed, 524 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: I can't go that way. I would bring it to 525 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: the deal. Well, and that's number one, and number two. 526 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: The other thing you want to check is is the 527 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: tip of them available? And well, because the other problem 528 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Chrysler's had, and I don't understand this, it's been going 529 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: on for a very long time, but it seems that 530 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the tip of modules for Chrysler's they 531 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: go on back order, they come off back order. So 532 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: I tell everybody before you take anything of this nature 533 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: apart on a Chrysler, make sure you have the part 534 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: in your hand so you can look at and go, okay, 535 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: we're good, you know, make the change and and and 536 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna take the car apart and put it 537 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: back together when you find out you can't necessarily get 538 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: the part Chrysler for whatever reason, not to pick on them, 539 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: but it seems like they've got some of the worst backfill, 540 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: back order issues. And I don't want to say in 541 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: the past six months because with COVID, you know, everybody 542 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: gets a pass in my mind, but it seems that 543 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: over the years Chrysler, Chrysler and Volkswagen are probably the 544 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: two toughest cars to get parts for at various times. 545 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure why. You know, it's they're 546 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: both big companies, and they both should they both should 547 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: be able to do better and know better. Just my 548 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: two sons. Thank you, all right, sir, But get a 549 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: look at that get a look at that bulletin, and 550 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: uh see what that does for you. Okay, okay, could 551 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I ask you one quick question? One quick question? Oh 552 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: uh recoding fuel injectors. I was looking for new scandals. 553 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: I just noticed that. I didn't realize you how to 554 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: do that. When did they actually like start coming out 555 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: with the recoding like about ten years ago? Okay, it's 556 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: been it's been around a while, yeah, Diesels, Yeah, because 557 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: they want the ability to fine tune. You gotta remember 558 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: what everybody forgets is in nineteen it was nothing to 559 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: do about emissions. It was how fast will it go? 560 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: How much can we sneak past the insurance company, and 561 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: how much gas can we get it to burn? All right, 562 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, we we've kind of gone the other way. 563 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Now what what to the nth degree can we do 564 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: to control emissions? And you know, the heck with the 565 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: cost for repair, because if it's too expensive, we'll just 566 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: get him to buy another car or vehicle. All right. 567 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I saw you. I saw a YouTube video the other 568 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: day that kind of blew my mind. They were talking 569 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: about how the repair shop of the future, the dealership 570 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: of the future, will have no parts department, okay, and 571 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: the mechanic will have access to a three D printer. 572 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Think about this, somebody's actually it's scary that somebody's thinking 573 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: about this. And we needed, we needed, we needed we 574 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: need a door handle, we need you know, a bell crank, 575 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: we need you know, a water pump. Okay, We're gonna 576 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: get the printer to make it for us, and then 577 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: a symbol of the pieces. You know. It's just wow, 578 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: really that's and if it's something the three D printer 579 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: can't make for the technician in the bay, Amazon's Amazon 580 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: is going to deliver it from a main central depot. 581 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Because when the car gets when when that when that 582 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: self driving car gets scheduled for service, When a self 583 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: driving car gets scheduled for its thirty thousand mile service, 584 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: whatever that's gonna look like. An email is sent to 585 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Amazon headquarters and their distribution warehouse brings over whatever necessarily 586 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: parts the technician is going to need to service that car. 587 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: Kind of scary stuff. I gotta go, Michael. Good luck 588 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: to you, and I appreciate the call. Thanks a lot. 589 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm run on any of the car doctor. We'll be 590 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back on in any of 591 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I should point out too, and we 592 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: arts of the does a tip of totally integrated power 593 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: module question doesn't have to be programmed. That also depends 594 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: on the vehicle. That also depends on the module itself. 595 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: If the module has failed completely, the problem is I 596 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: have to explain it like this. The problem is the 597 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: then the vehicle serial number has to be programmed as 598 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: part of a tip of replacement. If if the tip 599 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: of has is good and functioning, it's a scan tool function, 600 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: or it should be a scan tool function about restore 601 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: vehicle configuration. But at the tip of if the if 602 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: the if the module itself has failed, if the module's 603 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: bid and won't wake up, how do you get the 604 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: information out of it? There's a reflesh and another reset 605 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: procedure you have to go through to restore it back 606 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: to factory default. So you know it's yes, you need 607 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: a scan tool. Yes, there's a degree of programming or 608 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: configuration there um on some of them. It's simple plug 609 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: in play, So be sure be a little wary of 610 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Uh you know, if you're thinking of 611 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: doing this, you're so off. And that's true in any 612 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: software flash. And you know, uh, very few of the 613 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: software flashes I've done in my career to this point 614 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: have been simple, just straight up plug and play. I 615 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: could count on one hand the number of times a 616 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: software flesh has been plug play, go boom done. Because 617 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: it seems like there's always a a complication is the 618 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: word I'm looking for. And it's just something that I'm 619 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: just very very careful of and uh, very much aware. 620 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: So just just be mindful of that and uh, you know, 621 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: you'll be fine. But like I said, the first and 622 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: very most important thing is can you get that? Um? 623 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Can you get that module because that is an issue too. Hey, 624 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: just you know, I want to thank you for stopping 625 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: by this hour. I was gonna talk about this in 626 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: the hour, and we'll talk about it again in another show. Um, 627 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: texting in your car and the complications, uh you know 628 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: that that creates, and and how it's changing the language 629 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: we use to communicate with one another, whereas a well 630 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: yes doesn't work because you have to say yes, I 631 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: agree to that and the whole conversation. We'll have it 632 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: again at another time. I wanted to talk about it 633 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: this Sarah, but I can't because it's time to go. 634 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: And as always, I'm Ron and any in the car 635 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: doctor reminding each and every one of you. Good mechanics 636 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you