WEBVTT - 'Crocodile' Dundee: Everything You Didn't Know 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:10.120 Too Much Information is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello everyone, 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.119 and welcome to another episode of Too Much Information, the 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.600 show that brings you the secret histories and little known 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.920 facts behind your favorite movies, music, TV shows, and more. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.599 We are your kings of kriche, your bushmen of banality, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.720 your vegemite sandwiches of very granular facts. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.480 My name is Jordan run Tog and I'm the ghost 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:29.480 of rod Ansel. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.560 They don't know what that means yet. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.440 And you don't get that they will. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:34.800 Your kids are gonna love it. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.080 Yeah, I guess you're not. I guess you're not ready 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.920 for rod Ansel, but your kids are gonna love him. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.199 Today, we are looking at Crocodile Dundee, a surprise hit 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.760 from down Under when it arrived on American shores in 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:54.640 nineteen eighty six. It since become a cultural phenomenon, with 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.880 writer performer Paul Hogan's character, Michael J. Crocodile Dundee becoming 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.720 a sort of one man ambassador of a local charm 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:07.080 and natural beauty of Australia or one man's stereotype, depending 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.080 on how you view it. The trilogy made Hogan a 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.920 star around the world and a legend in his native Australia, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.640 where he's known by the affectionate metonym Hogues. I think 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.279 that's how you pronounced it, Hogues as in short for Hogan. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:20.680 Yeah, the way you spelled it, I thought it might 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:21.480 have been Hog's. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:22.480 I think it's Hogues. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.200 Uh. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.840 Side note, he's almost eighty five, Like in my mind, 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.679 he's perpetually sleeveless and tan and muscular. He's like he's 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:32.440 getting up there. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.800 I mean, only God can kill in Australian man. Oh, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.760 and like autoerotic asphyxiation. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.839 Oh oh, well. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.720 We'll get to that too, in excess catching a. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.080 Straw in the it's in Yeah. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.120 Oh, he's starting to catch up with him. He doesn't 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.760 look great ay five and yeah, I mean and like 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.920 white descended from British stock, spent half his life in 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.120 the sun. Face a good face care routine is so 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.600 important people. You know, I was really taken them back 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.560 by a tweet that went around recently, which is I'm 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.400 paraphrasing some of the effective Americans are always so shocked 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.119 when they learned how much Australians hate them. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.520 I didn't see that, and I didn't know that. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.480 Well, I was taken am back, not because of I mean, yes, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.520 I was shocked, but I was also taken him back 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.040 because not because I desperately crave the approval of a 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.880 bunch of sun burnt racists, because I can get that 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.440 if I just go to the South and pretend to 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.720 care about football, But it's because of how similar I 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.560 feel like Americans and Australians are. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:37.560 Am I talking to my ass here? Do you feel that? 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.160 I have never really thought about that much? 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.080 We're both descended from the same awful British stock. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.880 Well, only one of us are prisoners because it wasn't 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.519 Australia originally basically a gunt prison care. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.919 Yeah, they don't like talking about that. Well I don't, okay, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.560 But we are also alike in the way that we've 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.800 both committed atrocities against the indigenous peoples of our country, 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.040 and we're both rowdy and boisterous. I generally love every 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.200 Australian I've ever met, actually, you know, like like one 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.440 on one interactions. But I am struck by the and 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.200 hardly the first person to be so, by the disconnect 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.679 between the gregariousness and charm of the people and the 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.520 fact that half their country is just a vast screaming 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:25.359 waste land that occasionally issues constantly issues all manner of 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.680 fauna that are trying to kill you. And you know 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.400 they get a pass for me because of Nick Cave 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.680 and ACDC. Oh sure, and the song case sam by 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.520 Cold Chisel. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.720 Oh I saw Cold Chisel live. Yeah, okay, yeah, I 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.880 can see how hammered. Right. Oh sure, yeah, well wait 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.840 which one of us? But yes, I. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.160 Wish it was you. Fair if you were drunker than 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 a performer at any given thing, I've seriously questioned. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.560 Your health, especially if it was Cold Chisel for. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.240 It's also funny that like a third of Paul Hogan's 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.720 wiki is about his alleged tax evasion. Oh yeah, no 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.840 that I didn't really get into that in here, but 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.640 it kind of adds to his mystique, his lore. Well, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.240 it seems like he won like against the government, you know. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.839 Yeah, I think he sued the Australian government. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.680 And he won in certain like he won certain key decisions, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.359 but at the end of the day they were still like, 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.520 I'm pretty sure you hid like forty million dollars from 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.040 us in a Swiss bank account yep. And he insists 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.720 he's done nothing wrong and I'm sure, within the constraints 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.440 of creative bookkeeping, he didn't. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.160 But you know he compared the government to the Taliban, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:37.240 which I appreciate. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.559 Is that classic Australian tact. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.080 Well, for those of you who haven't seen Crocodile Dundee 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.720 in a while, the story begins when New York reporter 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.320 sued Charlton journeys to the Southern Hemisphere to interview Mick 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:55.120 Crocodile Dundee, a mysterious hunter who's rumored to have survived 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.840 in the wild after having his leg bitten off by 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.680 a crocodile before the fi the odds and making it 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.479 out of the outback and back to civilization and into 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.080 all of our heart, in all of our hearts. However, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.159 when this reporter meets Crocodile Dundee, she discovers that the 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.080 story has been exaggerated slightly and he was just maimed 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.599 and scarred very badly by said crocodile, a love bite, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:23.000 as he calls it. But his story is remarkable nonetheless. Apparently, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.200 Dundee was born in a cave in the Northern Territory 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.599 and raised by Indigenous Australians. He's unaware of his age 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.120 with the Aboriginal elders, telling him only that he was 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:37.960 quote born in the summertime. Prior to the beautiful Reporter's arrival, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.000 he'd never been to a city, equipping cities are crowded, right, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.920 If I went and lived in some city, I'd only 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:50.760 make it worse, which is both logically true and self deprecating. Yeah, 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.680 soone the reporter winds up bringing him to New York City, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.200 where hilarity and romance ensues. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.159 I'm fully admitting that I'm about to steal a bit 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.120 from how Sparks on. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.279 I love the eighties, Okay, go on. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.000 Actually it might have been Michael Ian Black. It was 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.560 a It was a slight brunette man who was one 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.919 of the most popular talking heads on those shows. And 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.960 he was like, I don't think Australians are that confused 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:21.039 by like cars. He just says, a CA, What's a ca? 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.040 And it just it also reminds me of like when 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.640 in thirty Rock when Jenna is a method to in 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.680 character for the Unlicensed Janis Joplin biography and she's in 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.680 Jack's office and she's like, hey, man, what is that 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:36.960 iron boot. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:37.560 In the sky? 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.760 They had planes in the sixties Jenna. So it's just 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.920 it is a funny premise that he's just like I mean, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.240 bidays are, but days are confusing. Yes, the days are confusing. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.200 Yes, okay, yeah yeah. Just a quick note, a rare 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.719 moment of sincerity here. This episode marks the first and 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.920 are sponsored by listeners like you series just like my 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.960 beloved PBS growing up. 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Here 0:10:51.640 --> 0:11:01.800 is everything you didn't know about Crocodile Dundee. It's truth. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.120 What does that mean? I keep seeing that. Don't know. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.400 Oh okay, I don't know anything. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.360 Half my Australian slang just comes from like a single 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.679 YouTube video of a guy ranting about Australia. Day. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.520 Oh yeah, that's like their fourth of July. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.520 Right, wasn't the at me country, Get at me country, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:20.480 get at me country. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.760 Wasn't he succulent Chinese male guy Australian? Or was in 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.720 Australia and he was English? 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.080 He did not have an Australian accent. No, he had 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.079 like a beautiful like King's English. Or he received pronunciation 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.280 boarding school boys in Australia. Sure, why not? 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:39.960 He just died recently? 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.199 Yeah, I know, and that's sad RP to that man. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.240 Well. For years, Paul Hogan claimed that his fish out 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.680 of Water story of an Australian bushman in the Big 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.360 City was inspired by his own first trip to New 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.760 York in the early eighties, a time when apparently Australian 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.520 accents were relatively uncommon. Despite the fact that Greece had 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.960 just come out. Apparently, New Yorkers assumed that Paul was Scottish, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.000 which would have made him the world's tennis Scotsman. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.120 We are such a dumb people, He. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.760 Apparently really did walk around New York saying good day 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.720 to all the New Yorkers, which is a hilarious image 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.040 for a city that had recently been terrorized by the 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.320 son of Sam. Yeah. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.240 I mean it wasn't a great time to be weird 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.080 and super friendly in New York. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.640 Yes, yes, yes, yes. As Paul Hogan later told the BBC, 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.679 I felt like an alien from another planet. Some of 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.000 the bushy guys I know would feel even more out 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.520 of place. There's a myth that there's a real crocodile Dundee, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.959 but there isn't. Well, Paul, most of Australia would beg 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.360 to differ, though Paul Hogan would deny it. Many believe 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.440 that the character of Mick Crocodile Dundee was based on 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.920 the astonishing true life story of an Australian man named 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.480 rod ansel rod had become something of a folk hero 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.080 in Australia. After we survived, I have more than seven 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.840 weeks on a small island at the mouth of a 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:08.680 crocodile infested river in the remote Northern Territory. The incident 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.439 occurred in nineteen seventy seven, when he was sailing down 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.760 the Fitzmorris River. To this day, it's unclear exactly why 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.559 he was doing this. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.840 I should do I have a do we have hang on, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.520 I gotta drum up some ambience you can have like 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:23.840 a didgerido in the background. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.400 Let me just just go an outback commercial. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:39.400 Yeah, yes, that's a passable, but that's a kucku barra. No, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.480 it is also part of my new noise project. You 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.079 should throw a bunch of reaver on that, Okay. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.600 To this day, it's unclear why Rod Ansel was on 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.920 the river in the first place. He would claim it 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.400 was a fishing trip, but as his Wikipedia reads, he 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.480 was not specific about his plans, only telling his then 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.360 girlfriend Lorraine that he would be back in a few months. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.080 Ansel's motor boat was then capsized and sunk by quote 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.800 something big. He would later sensationally claim that it was 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.199 a whale, and have also read that it was a crocodile. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.600 It's definitely a crocodile. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.600 The river is mile I went and checked because I 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.640 was like, that sounds implausible, and sure enough, there are 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.000 whales around the different coast of Australia, but that river 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.600 is so far inland it must have been an idiot 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.120 of a whale to get lost, or he was a 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.280 bad sailor and he hit nothing and he got that's 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:29.200 also equally like that. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.880 It's whatever the case. The boat sank and Rod jumped 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.840 into a dinghy and salvaged his two eight week old 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.480 bull terriers. No idea why he brought two puppies on 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.800 this expedition, A rifle, a knife, some canned food and bedding. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.920 The dinghy washed ashore on a small island at the 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.360 mouth of the river, and Ansel slept in between the 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.000 roots of a tree, just out of reach of crocodiles, 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.720 but up close and personal with a brown tree snake 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.880 without I mean drinking water. Ansel had to catch wild 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.880 cattle and suck their blood to keep them hydrated. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.120 Oh that's normal, that's what the Mongols did. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:13.680 Okay, Yeah, and this is truly insane. He caught bees 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.560 and tied threads to their bodies so he could follow 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.920 them to their hives and obtain honey to wide'm nourished. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.600 Isn't that that's insane. At one point, Rod shot a 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.040 sixteen foot crocodile whose head he kept as a souvenir. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.040 They're good eats too, I don't mind, really mind crocodile? 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:31.960 Yeah, have you had it? What's it taste to day? 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.680 There's a place in my my college town that did 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.040 fried crocodile bites. It was like the New Orleans bar. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.600 I've had crocodile jerky, and I don't really like it. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.040 I think you do have to deep I think you 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.320 got to just deep fry him. But you know, I 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.000 don't defry anything tastes good. What can SHA deep fry 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:46.520 these days? 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:52.680 Hell? Yeah, brother, that's a NASCAR baby. Rod roamed for 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.360 seven weeks. Apparently it was one hundred and twenty miles 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.640 from the nearest settlement, and he basically assumed that he 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.560 was running out the clock and would die where he was. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.360 But then he stumbled on two Aboriginal stockman and their boss, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.960 who led him to safety, or so he claimed, Grand 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.760 of salt, Grain of salt. According to ron Ansell, he 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.360 initially intended to downplays ordeal, fearing that his recklessness would 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.560 upset his mother. Oh yeah, remember that all? Remember that? 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.640 Oh yeah, I know, I read ahead. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.800 Once the media got ahold of his story, however, it 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.200 took on a life of its own. He was dubbed 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.440 the modern day Robinson Crusoe. Journalist Robert Milliken would say 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.520 of Ansel, he was charming. He seems to have never 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.600 worn shoes, even when traveling on aircraft ew and staying 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.560 in city hotels. At the height of his fame, the 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.560 press went absolutely mad over his story, and no one 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.680 seemed to mind that the details grew even more incredible. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.320 Rod would publish a memoir in nineteen eighty entitled to 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.720 Fight the Wild, which was always viewed very skeptically by 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.720 locals of Australia's rugged top end, and many wondered why 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.640 he went fishing alone in such a dangerous area, which 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.919 is a great question. Privately, Rod confided to friends that 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.600 he wasn't fishing, but he was actually illegally poaching crocodiles, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.679 which would maybe explain a lot of why he was 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:16.639 so cagy about all this. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.200 He can't poach crocodiles. They're reptiles. They just like grow 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:27.959 from the earth for dinosaurs. Dude, that's that's not poaching. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.800 That's like a fair match between man and beast. It's 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:37.679 not like a white tailed deer. Yeah, I guess if 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:42.000 you have a gun. But you know, still, the. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.359 Man was always good for a quote. Including this gem 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:49.639 which seems designed to remind people that he's Australian. Can 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.560 you do an Australian accent? Can you read this? I 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:52.320 can't do it. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.640 It's so mine just falls apart. But let me see, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:56.919 let me. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.320 See if I try try it out here, I'll highlight 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:00.000 it for you. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.119 All the blokes up in this country you work with, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.480 cattle ringer, his stockmen, bull catches, whatever, all of them 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.200 have really narrow shaves all the time. It's getting it's 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.159 edging into New Zealand. I can only sustain it for 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.600 like a phrase or two. But they never talk about it. No, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.280 that's just offensive. Sorry Stirlians. I think the opinion is 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.520 that if you come through in one piece and you're 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.840 still alive, then nothing else matters. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:25.400 Yeah. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.119 Then he says, it's like going out to shoot a kangaroo. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.400 You don't come back and say you missed by half 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.399 an inch. He either got him or you didn't. So 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.720 that's how I looked at it until the paper got 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.040 ahold of the story and that changed a lot of things. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.919 Very good, very good. Rod Ansell was interviewed by the 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:46.680 legendary British broadcaster Michael Parkinson. Parky to our beloved British listeners. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:50.000 They'll be very familiar with him. And Ansel attended this 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.280 interview barefoot and admitted to sleeping on the floor of 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.760 the luxury hotel what the producers had booked him into 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.680 because he was more comfortable there. I'm sorry, good care, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.840 come on guy, And he also shared the fact that 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.320 he was mystified by the bidet well, the whole sleeping 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.040 on the floor thing and the whole bidet confusion or 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.520 two details that was surfacing the Crocodile Dundee film. I mean, 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.359 say what you will about this Ansel guy. He and 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.919 his family would apparently live under a canvas sheet with 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.879 no electricity or running water, communicating by radio and cooking 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:29.119 over a campfire. So maybe the bed was a little 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.520 too foreign form after all. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.800 Yeah, I feel like you can get away with a 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.120 lot of stuff in Australia because people were just like, yeah, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:36.760 that makes sense. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.760 Sure, I buy that a ruthlessly practical people. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.120 It's really funny to me because the there's this Johnny 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:48.080 Cash record I have called minas Hell, which is about 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.600 it's like Western ballads, and in the liner notes of it, 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.960 he claims to have prepared for this record by let 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.800 me see if it knew Johnny Cash sleeping under mesquite 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.440 and in gullies, sitting for hours beneath a man's and 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.919 nightA bush an ancient Indian burial ground, and breathing the 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.359 west wind and hearing the tails. It tells only to 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.119 those who listen that he also added that he ate 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.880 mesquite beans and squeezed the water from a barrel cactus, 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.320 learned how to throw a bowie knife and kill a 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.479 jack rabbit at forty yards, and was once saved by 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.400 a forest ranger lying flat on my back starving. 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.359 So is that where we get that picture of Johnny 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.399 Cash with cake all over his face afterwards? Is that 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:33.480 the aftermath? No? 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.280 But I mean the famous thing about Johnny Cash, it's 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.720 so funny, is that I believe this was the same year, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.080 or like within one year of him burning down like 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.480 an enormous chunk of California forest and like killing half 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.040 the condors that were alive in the world at that point. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:50.520 And then in court he said, I don't give I 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.960 don't give a damn about your filthy, dirty buzzards. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.720