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Speaker 2: We found somebody in his mont draft had the Falcons

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Speaker 2: taking Michael Pennix Junior. He'll join us coming up here

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Speaker 2: in a moment. Let me get some other business out

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Speaker 2: as well. The Magic Meat. The Cabs, seventy six ers

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Speaker 2: handle the Knicks and the Nuggets up three to zero

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Speaker 2: on the Lakers. You got rounds two and three tonight

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Speaker 2: in the NFL Draft, also Bucks, Pacers, Clippers, MAVs, Timberwolves,

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Speaker 2: and the Suns. Poll question before we get to our

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Speaker 2: guest seat, no counter.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Dan, We've got up there. We've got two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, best non quarterback pick made last night in the

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Speaker 3: first ten Marvin Harrison Junior going to the Cardinals, Joe

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Speaker 3: Alt and the Chargers. It's not sexy, but that's a

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Speaker 3: great pick that makes them better. Yeah, Roma Dunda going

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Speaker 3: to the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. That's a fun pick. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yes, And then you have neighbors going

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Speaker 1: to the Giants. But then you're going to the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and who's throwing it to you? Right?

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Speaker 3: And Marvin Harrison Junior plug him in. He's ready to

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Speaker 3: play superstar. Yes, And I thought that that was going

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Speaker 3: to happen. I didn't buy into the JJ McCarthy hype,

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Speaker 3: although I'm told this morning by a source that teams

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Speaker 3: they did want to go up.

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Speaker 2: To where Arizona was. They just weren't giving enough, and

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Speaker 2: teams were I said, there'd be a team that would

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Speaker 2: get squirrely.

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Speaker 1: It does. It happens every year now.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that team would be Atlanta, and there

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Speaker 2: were other teams that were interested in Michael Pennix junior, Seattle,

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Speaker 2: reportedly the Raiders Denver. But Atlanta gets their man, and

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Speaker 2: our man, de Orlando Ledbetter has been covering the Falcons

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Speaker 2: for twenty years, I believe, and you and your mock

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Speaker 2: draft back in early April had them taking Michael Pennix junior.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you take a victory lap here, but why

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Speaker 2: did you think Michael Pennix Junior was going to the Falcons?

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much, Dan, Yeah, I moved off

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Speaker 4: of it. So, yeah, I won't take the victory lap.

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Speaker 4: But they have went out to Seattle to to work

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Speaker 4: him out last year, the whole Arthur blank plane, the

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Speaker 4: general manager, the whole coach of staff. And so they

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Speaker 4: did the same thing last year when they went to

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Speaker 4: is the full entourage trip. So that's a tip that

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Speaker 4: this is the pick, and so I wrote it and

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Speaker 4: I went I went and said, hey, you know this

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just trying to understand. Now, let me let

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Speaker 2: me ask you, do you like the pick?

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Speaker 5: I understand the pick. I'm in the mio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, I think you could have picked to

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Speaker 5: Uh, but I understand what they were doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have got a more impact player, maybe

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Speaker 4: a defensive uh star Wars that's going to be on

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Speaker 4: the field for for teen years, where you picked the

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Speaker 4: guy that's gonna clearly sit for a couple.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it because he's twenty four, he's probably

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Speaker 2: time quarterback, and you're invested in Cousins for it.

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Speaker 1: I think you're tied up at least for three years here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the hit would be massive.

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Speaker 4: If it's a two year deal, you're okay after three

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Speaker 4: and certainly fine after four.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how do you think Kirk Cousins is

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Speaker 4: Oh, he hasn't taken it. Well, we've talked to his agent.

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Speaker 4: We've heard from confused. Confused, shock is what we heard. Dismay,

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Speaker 4: you know where some of the reactions of Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't come out publicly, but on his agent, Mike McCartney,

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Speaker 4: he has expressed those emotions on behalf of his client.

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Speaker 1: How does this work out?

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's a couple different ways. You know, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Kirk comes in, they win, they develop Pinnis, they have

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Speaker 4: a transition plan in place. The other scenarios Kirk, you know,

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Speaker 4: they don't win, they lose. They put the kid in

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Speaker 4: there too early, and they're back here in the draft

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Speaker 4: and number eight pick him, trying to pick another quarterback

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Speaker 4: in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back a little ways when we thought Belichick

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Speaker 2: maybe Robert Kraft telling his friend Arthur Blank that don't

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Speaker 2: do it. What was your thought when the Falcons decided

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Speaker 2: that they weren't going to hire Bill Belichick?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they I was caught out what most people were.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a lot. You know, when you

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Speaker 4: got rid of a coach that you know, Arthur Smith

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Speaker 4: had done a credible job given the set of circumstances

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Speaker 4: that he had, and you're gonna cut him short early.

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Speaker 4: That was indicating that you already have something in place

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Speaker 4: with Bilchick. So we were s done that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't win over the building and so the owner

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Speaker 4: had to move in another direction there. Raheem had support

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Speaker 4: within the building and ended up getting the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wild. You've seen a lot over twenty years.

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Speaker 5: The federal dog fighting trout to this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've seen it all.

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Speaker 2: But you know it's still I wouldn't have brought in

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins thirty five coming off Achilles surgery and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna cost me one hundred million dollars guaranteed. No, I

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Speaker 2: just now I know, maybe he's the final piece here.

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Speaker 2: We're assuming he's going to be healthy to be able

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Speaker 2: to play. But man, I just I'm puzzled by this.

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Speaker 2: I'm puzzled. I'm not easily puzzled in this business. This

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Speaker 2: this one the whole thing. In the off season, No, Belichick,

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Speaker 2: you got Kirk Cousins and now you take Michael Pennox.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you gotta go back to them going

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Speaker 4: after the Shawn Watson in to twenty one when Matt

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Speaker 4: they decided that Matt Ryan couldn't keep going, and you know,

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Speaker 4: they found out the price tag was too hot for him.

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Speaker 4: Then the two thirty guaranteed was too high. So then

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Speaker 4: you end up playing with Mariota and Rinter for two

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Speaker 4: years and I didn't work out. So now you're in

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Speaker 4: desperate quarterback move. So you don't want to be one

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Speaker 4: of those teams like Denver playing sixteen different quarterbacks for

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Speaker 4: the next ten years. So you make a move and

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Speaker 4: get Cousins, and now you make another move and get

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Speaker 4: his apparent success. And so that's the backdrop. You kind

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Speaker 4: of got to start at them trying to get the

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Speaker 4: Seawan Watson and that failing and then the subsequent moves

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Speaker 4: being bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot of things to write about

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Speaker 2: down there, so make your job easy. Hey, thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome, Dan, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: De Orlando led better. He initially had the Falcons taking

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior, had him among the final five players

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Speaker 2: in the Falcons radar. And what he did is basically

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Speaker 2: apply logic of they went all in, everybody went out

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Speaker 2: to see Bjeon Robinson, and then he used the same

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Speaker 2: logic of Arthur Blank and his private jet and everybody

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Speaker 2: is going to go out to the workout for Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennox Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, it.

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Speaker 7: Makes more sense now when you hear him say that

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Speaker 7: they went out, looked at him and fell in love

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Speaker 7: with him. They also got cousins. To them, they're like,

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Speaker 7: well we got both, we got two things. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: a generation to go. But Steve Young set for four

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Speaker 7: seasons for the forty nine ers. I don't think he

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Speaker 7: took over till he's twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you had there one of the greatest quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: of all time in front of him, just like it.

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Speaker 1: Cousin.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, I thought you're setting me up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I get it.

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Speaker 2: If I got the one of the greatest court he

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Speaker 2: was the greatest quarterback in the league at the time,

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Speaker 2: and you got Steve Young and you were able to

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Speaker 2: have him.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I get that.

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Speaker 7: It's like we're trying to find reasons that this could

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Speaker 7: work out long term, not short term.

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Speaker 2: Well, it can work out. It doesn't mean it was

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Speaker 2: the right decision right now. But look, would I have

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Speaker 2: hired Belichick? I guess, I gasp. But look, it's the

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Speaker 2: front office is going telling the owner, we don't think

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Speaker 2: you should hire him because they don't want to lose

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Speaker 2: their jobs. Philadelphia should have hired Bill Belichick, absolutely, But okay,

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Speaker 2: and then you bring in Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: I like Kirk great guest.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have paid him that money coming off of

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Speaker 2: achilles surgery and he's thirty five. And then you take

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix. Okay, it might work out, just like Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love worked out. It wasn't the right decision in the

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Speaker 2: came out of his shell when he's played well.

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Speaker 1: He played really well second half of the season.

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Speaker 2: And I've been a Jordan Love fan, said that he

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Speaker 2: was going to be a franchise quarterback. But in the moment,

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Speaker 2: you had the best quarterback in the NFL and you

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Speaker 2: didn't get him any weapons in Aaron Rodgers. All righty,

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Speaker 2: see James and Virginia is back. Hi, James, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. Brother at the Friday

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Speaker 8: DP Dan that solute the commanders. Man, it's a new

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, James, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: Uh Ken in Atlanta, who Marvin hung up on before

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, and thank you Ken for calling back.

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Speaker 2: I get it. But it's just you deal Now. The

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Speaker 8: Hi?

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Speaker 12: I'm five ten, two hundred and let's move on. I

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Speaker 3: Literally, the word literally doesn't mean literally anymore because so

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Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, did you ask the school that you paid

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Literal?

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Speaker 2: if the Falcons had called you last week, let's say

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Speaker 14: Hmm. First I would have said, well, well, why concerning

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Speaker 14: where you're at in your program, build where meaning you're

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Speaker 14: I know, as the Great ron wolfall he said and

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Speaker 14: gave a hundred million dollars, who can have more cracks

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Speaker 14: at Now you don't have that guy. So look, it's

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Speaker 14: one of those where I saw some video of Terry

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Speaker 14: Fouteno talking to Arthur Blank in the draft room.

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Speaker 2: He's like, wait a minute, wait, what.

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Speaker 1: Are you telling me? Yes, the wall who had a

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Speaker 1: great night last night.

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Speaker 14: You know, I think I think Baltimore always winds up

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Speaker 14: having great nights because they look Nate Wiggins. The selection

446
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Speaker 14: of him at thirty. Nate was probably when Quinnon Mitchell

447
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Speaker 14: was probably my was my number one corner, But like Nate,

448
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Speaker 14: him and Nate Wiggans were like one in one a

449
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Speaker 14: because of because the way they play, which is so

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Speaker 14: competitive and tough and physical, and you always hear down

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Speaker 14: in Baltimore. You know, John Harvill's always talking about play

452
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Speaker 14: like a raven. Well what does that mean? Well, I

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Speaker 14: think if you turn on the table with Nate Wiggins

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Speaker 14: at Clemson, you'll see what it means. You watch the

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Speaker 14: North Carolina game where he run he tracks a dude

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Speaker 14: down from fifteen yards behind when he could have easily

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Speaker 14: given up on the play. That's what it means. When

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Speaker 14: you watch him covering Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson at

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Speaker 14: Florida State, and then he'll go into slot and cover

460
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Speaker 14: guys like tes Walker from North Carolina, totally different bodies

461
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Speaker 14: and shut them all down. That's playing like a race.

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Speaker 14: So that to me, that team, that organization probably knows

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Speaker 14: who they are as well as anyone in the National

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Speaker 14: Football League.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 14: I know people say, well, they ain't win any Super Bowls.

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Speaker 14: I mean they ain't didn't pass Patrick yet, But that's

468
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Speaker 14: besides the point. They understand the draft, they understand how

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Speaker 14: to find their guys, and for them to sit there

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Speaker 14: with cornerback being a top two kneed and sit there

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Speaker 14: at thirty and watch a guy like Nate Wiggins fall

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Speaker 14: all the way down because of all those offensive players

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Speaker 14: who want above them, that's a great night at the Toasta.

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Speaker 14: If you're Steve Bashatti, you went home last night going

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Speaker 14: and we're pretty good at this thing.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs know their identity, yep. But I'm wondering if

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Speaker 2: Buffalo knows its identity because Buffalo trades with Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: and Kansas City says, uh, okay, we'll take Xavier, We'll

479
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Speaker 2: take the fastest guy in the draft. Let me start

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo. What do you make of what Buffalo's trying

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's interesting because like the two quarterback I mean

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Speaker 14: the two wide receivers like late in the draft of

484
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Speaker 14: two exaviers that went Worthy and then Lagett who went

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Speaker 14: to Carolina, who trades with Buffalo, and Buffalo trades out

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Speaker 14: of the first like both of those. Of those two,

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Speaker 14: Legett is the one that if I'm Buffalo, I would

488
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Speaker 14: have wanted the bigger guy six, a true ex ride

489
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Speaker 14: receiver on the outside who has four to three speed.

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Speaker 14: He looks like AJ Brown. That's my that's who I

491
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Speaker 14: think he'll be. Well, he'd be that catch and run

492
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Speaker 14: guy who will just go nine because he's four to

493
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Speaker 14: three or a two hundred twenty pounds, he's want to

494
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Speaker 14: run over your small linebackers and your safeties and corners,

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Speaker 14: and he can return punts. He's all that's the kind

496
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Speaker 14: of guy, Like, like, that's that guy that Josh Allen.

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Speaker 14: You could picture Xavier to get up there in Buffalo

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Speaker 14: with Josh Allen and Khalil Shakir in the slot. You

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Speaker 14: I mean that, that just makes so much sense to me.

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Speaker 14: And I was like, man, like, they just gave away

501
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Speaker 14: those two dudes, Like if they won't e Xavier worthy

502
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Speaker 14: the same thing, they just gave him away. Now there's

503
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Speaker 14: other good receivers coming up here that are going to

504
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Speaker 14: go off the border early, like a guy like a

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Speaker 14: guy like ad Mitchell from Texas. Body type wise fits

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Speaker 14: what I think Buffalo needs in terms of how you

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Speaker 14: construct the wide receiver room. We'll see they make Drave

508
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Speaker 14: down again. I'll be sitting here. Maybe you have some other.

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Speaker 2: Plans who had a better night last night? Denver or

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Speaker 2: Minnesota From the quarterbacking perspective, Wow, that's.

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Speaker 14: That's a real good one.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 14: I would say Minnesota simply because I think that one.

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Speaker 14: Minnesota has the best I think situation to offer any

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Speaker 14: of these young quarterbacks. Solid offensive line, two bookend tackles,

516
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Speaker 14: running back in Aaron Jones, who has proven in the

517
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Speaker 14: NFL he can do it all caps out of the backfield,

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Speaker 14: end run it.

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Speaker 6: TJ.

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Speaker 14: Hawkinson comes back healthy. You have a top three tight

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Speaker 14: end in the NFL. You have maybe arguably the best

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Speaker 14: wide receiver in the NFL, maybe the best two in

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Speaker 14: the NFL in Jordan Addison. And you have Kevin O'Connell,

524
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Speaker 14: who I've been told, look, Josh McCowan, who went up there,

525
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Speaker 14: who gets released in Carolina, goes up there to be

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Speaker 14: the quarterback coach. When I saw him at the combine,

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Speaker 14: he said, you know, you know one of the best

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Speaker 14: things about our situation for a young quarterback is that

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Speaker 14: Kevin has answers. For young quarterbacks when they see something

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Speaker 14: they don't quite understand, or they'd see a situation they go,

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Speaker 14: how am I supposed to handle this? There's no gray area.

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Speaker 14: Their rules, their methodology, their philosophy is so air tight.

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Speaker 14: I shouldn't say air tight. Has so many different things

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Speaker 14: that it can go to to answer anything defenses can

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Speaker 14: do that there's nothing the young quarterback will be able

536
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Speaker 14: to say, Hey, you know what, my guy, my quarterback coach,

537
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Speaker 14: my offensive coordinator doesn't have an answer for me, and

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Speaker 14: that's why Kirk Cousins I believe took his game to

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Speaker 14: a whole nother level when Kevin got there and played

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Speaker 14: the way he did so for you know, for a

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Speaker 14: guy like JJ McCarthy to go in there now and

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Speaker 14: be able to sit behind Sam who also has played

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Speaker 14: in this style of the system out there in Sam

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Speaker 14: Fran that hold Sean McVay, you know, type of system.

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Speaker 14: I think it's just perfect for him. It's perfect for

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Speaker 14: him to sit there bide his time, and when he's

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Speaker 14: ready to go and they're ready to put him in there,

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Speaker 14: look at all the things he has to work with.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 14: Look, Sean Payton is someone who I don't think as

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Speaker 14: much as people respect him as a coach, I don't

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Speaker 14: think people really understand unless you've talked to him for

553
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Speaker 14: a little bit, just how smart this dude is when

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Speaker 14: it comes to being able to assess strengths and weaknesses

555
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Speaker 14: and offensive players and put them in good spots. And

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Speaker 14: if he believes in bone the way he obviously does,

557
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Speaker 14: the draft him where he did, you can best believe

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Speaker 14: he's going to have bow knicks in positions to really

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Speaker 14: take take advantage of his strengths. And I think bo

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Speaker 14: is a darn good quarterback and I think he'll excel

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Speaker 14: given the way Seawan coaches that position and how multiple

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Speaker 14: he can be in terms of utilizing guys. Whether you

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Speaker 14: have a big, giant arm and can throw the football

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Speaker 14: down the field like Jamis, or you're someone who was

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Speaker 14: like Drew who is much more cerebral, which I think

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Speaker 14: bow Knix is like right in between there, and I

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Speaker 14: think we're going to see that.

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy, always great to talk to. You

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Speaker 2: have a good weekend, you Batman, thanks a lot for

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Speaker 2: having me. Lewis Riddick ESPN NFL College Football analyst and

571
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Speaker 2: also worked in the front office with Washington and the.

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Speaker 1: Eagles part of the draft day coverage.

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Speaker 2: And ESPN has that for you tonight ESPN two at

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Speaker 2: seven Eastern and then Saturday on the mother Ship beginning

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Speaker 2: at noon Eastern.

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Speaker 1: I had a source who reached out this morning.

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Speaker 2: You know, he knows that we're talking about Michael Pennix Junior,

578
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Speaker 2: and he said, you know, here's the one problem that

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Speaker 2: I have with Michael Pennox. He goes and it's not injuries,

580
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Speaker 2: it's he doesn't make plays out of the pocket and

581
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, you can't just stay in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: You got to be able to make plays outside the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And he is not somebody who makes plays out of

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Speaker 2: the pocket. Now, I did text back and say, well,

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Speaker 2: he's got three years to learn how to do that,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think he's playing anytime soon. Your best

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Speaker 2: case scenario is Kirk Cousins comes back, plays well for

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Speaker 2: three years, you give him his one hundred million dollars guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: and then you say all right, Kirk, thank you. You're

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Speaker 2: thirty eight and we got your backup ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Pauline, See.

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Speaker 7: When I hear what you just said, I think that's

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Speaker 7: a positive thing. All I hear is guys like Erd

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Speaker 7: Collinsworth last night another gang. We need more quarterbacks to

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Speaker 7: stay in the pocket and make passes on time. There's

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Speaker 7: a scheduled offense that they worked hard on in timing,

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Speaker 7: and he goes too. Many of these guys are freelancing

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Speaker 7: and running around. To me, that sounds like a positive

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Speaker 7: about Pennis.

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Speaker 2: I just think there are plays that you have to make.

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Speaker 2: There be plays when you have to make them out

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Speaker 2: of the pocket. They're going to be forced out of

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Speaker 2: the pocket that you know, the talent level you're going

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Speaker 2: up against is going to force you out of the pocket.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has an edge rusher, at least one. He's going

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Speaker 2: to have to make some plays out of the pocket.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Nick Saban. I thought Saban did a

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Speaker 2: really good job. Bill Belichick did a nice job with McAfee.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're never quite sure about either of these

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Speaker 2: guys because of their personality. Like Nick seems like he's

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Speaker 2: got a sense of humor, you know, it's dry, whereas

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Speaker 2: Belichick is just dry and I doesn't. I know, everybody says, oh,

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Speaker 2: those who play for him, Man, he's got a great

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Speaker 2: sense of humor. Okay, you know who's always funny, the

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Speaker 2: guy who's in power, you know, the guy who wins

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Dan, You're right about that.

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Speaker 2: And what happened last night on the mother Ship set,

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Speaker 2: no matter what Nick Saban said, and I go, it's

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Speaker 2: not that funny.

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Speaker 1: How about we pick our spots. But they were.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to please him and make him feel comfortable

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Speaker 2: with everything that he said. And he does have great insight,

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Speaker 2: but he's not a stand up comedian. And Belichick was

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Speaker 2: more of just like McAfee and you know, his band

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Speaker 2: of misfits. They're like, you know, saying silly stuff. And

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Speaker 2: then Bill would come back and he'd be like, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't see the comparison between Drake May and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: It's footwork and he leaves a lot till he desired.

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Speaker 1: But it's like they'd hired Stephen right to be the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and then McAfee and his crowd, you know,

632
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Speaker 2: they're all caffeined up in there. But I thought Saman

633
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Speaker 2: did a good job. I thought he did a nice job,

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Speaker 2: brought us and he involved people. A lot of times.

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Speaker 2: You play to that person and and that's not a

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Speaker 2: good thing to do that you want that person to

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Speaker 2: then play to everybody else on your panel up you know,

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Speaker 2: on the set that it's not just hey, let's go

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Speaker 2: to you, and then everybody else has to kind of

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Speaker 2: fill in after that. Saban would get it, and then

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Speaker 2: Saban would say, what do you think, Kirk, and then

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Speaker 2: he would send it to Herbstreet. Then I thought that

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Speaker 2: that was great, But you know, it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching my boy Rich Eisen, Daniel Jeremiah Charles Davis,

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Speaker 2: and I'm watching those guys last night. I'm loyal to

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Speaker 2: Richie rich even though you know, the mothership, they still

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Speaker 2: got friends there. But yeah, you know, flipping back and forth,

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Speaker 2: and it felt like did the NFL network were they

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Speaker 2: five seconds ahead of the mothership or was that just

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Speaker 2: my Direct TV I.

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Speaker 10: Experienced the same thing as it was solid like five

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Speaker 10: seconds getting it faster from NFL network. But maybe different

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Speaker 10: cable systems are different.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I don't like tipping. You know, the picks and

656
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Speaker 2: Chefty was tipping. I don't want that. And you know what,

657
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Speaker 2: don't do it on TV, do it on socio. I'm

658
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Speaker 2: fine with that. But I had a problem with that,

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Speaker 2: and I turned back to the NFL network. I don't

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Speaker 2: want you tipping your pitches, your picks or your pitches.

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Speaker 10: Yes, no, it's just I don't know if it was frustrating,

662
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Speaker 10: but I just found it odd. But like we're going

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Speaker 10: back and forth this cutage to see why, like why

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Speaker 10: one would be a good five six seconds ahead of

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Speaker 10: the other one when they're just two major network. Y.

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Speaker 7: It happens like that also with the red zone on

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Speaker 7: different channels, like the red zone on both DirecTV and

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Speaker 7: on NFL network. It doesn't match up to network broadcasts.

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Speaker 7: It's actually faster. So let's say you have a few

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Speaker 7: TVs on, you have CBS and Fox on a weekend,

671
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Speaker 7: and you have live games, and then you have one

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Speaker 7: of the red zones on The red zone is about

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Speaker 7: seven seconds faster.

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Speaker 2: Plus Todd got an email that had the top ten

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Speaker 2: picks and JJ McCarthy was already picked, even though he

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Speaker 2: hadn't been picked on TV.

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Speaker 10: It was listed as a pick in an email that

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Speaker 10: I got and it was not announced just yet on

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Speaker 10: NFL network or ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Do you have that email?

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Speaker 5: Almost?

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Speaker 1: Do you have that email?

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Speaker 10: I may have deleted it, but I will check, Well.

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Speaker 1: It's in your deleted to be in your trash.

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Speaker 7: Why do I think this is not a conspiracy? And

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Speaker 7: more is about Todd and emails?

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Speaker 3: This is like Oliver Stone's gonna be like, how is

688
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Speaker 3: the jfk assassination announced in Australia twenty four hours before

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Speaker 3: it actually happened.

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Speaker 10: I got something at nine to eighteen pm last night.

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Speaker 10: It says tonight's NFL drafts so far and at number

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Speaker 10: ten it said Vikings traded up JJ McCarthy and it

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Speaker 10: had not been announced yet by their commission very soon

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Speaker 10: after it did. But I got this email before the announcements.

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Speaker 2: Man, you know what, Let's get the ITAM on that.

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Speaker 2: PAULI on it, Fritzy, send it over to Paulie.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the IAM on it. All right, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Take a break when we come back. Does the NBA

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Speaker 2: do anything to Joe l Embiid leading into Game four?

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Speaker 2: Cheap shots plural last night?

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Speaker 1: Back after this.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 2: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until

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Speaker 2: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at

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Speaker 2: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. We

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Speaker 2: got our IT team on a story here. Fritzi claims

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Speaker 2: that he got an email that had JJ McCarthy being

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Speaker 2: picked by Minnesota last night before it was announced on TV.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Paul, the iteam's all over this one. Dan.

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Speaker 7: We're going to look into some timelines, match them up,

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Speaker 7: and we'll get back to you in less than ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, watching some basketball. Joel Embiid he had fifty last night.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he had a great night. He

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Speaker 2: had fifty and they won, but there were a couple

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Speaker 2: of controversial plays here and some cheap shots. Plus he

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00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: was shooting more free throws than the entire Knicks did.

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: I think he had twenty one free throws there, And

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Speaker 2: it almost felt like this was the make good game

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Speaker 2: for how Game two ended in the controversial fashion that

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00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: it did, where they missed a couple of foul calls.

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Speaker 2: But man, he certainly went out of their way to

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Speaker 2: accommodate Joel emb last night. And I you know, there's

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Speaker 2: one where Mitchell Robinson like he's grabbing his leg. Somebody

725
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: else gets a cup check as well, but in beads

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Speaker 2: on the ground, and then you know, he talked about

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Speaker 2: how he was trying to protect himself, you.

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Speaker 6: Know the other players. You know, obviously Mitchell Robinson jumping,

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Speaker 6: trying to land, trying to you know, make sure he

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Speaker 6: doesn't land on me because obviously we know the street

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Speaker 6: that I have with kaminga landing on my knee. Uh

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Speaker 6: So I kind of have some flashbacks, you know, when

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Speaker 6: he came down to it. It's unfortunate. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: didn't mean to hurt anybody. I just you know, in

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Speaker 6: those situations, I gotta protect myself because I've been in

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Speaker 6: way too many situations where you know, I'm always a

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Speaker 6: recipient of you know, the bad end of it.

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Speaker 2: So, Okay, I get it. He's trying to protect himself.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished for what he did. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did this, but you know they should

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Speaker 2: have been a flagrant too. I don't know if the

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Speaker 2: NBA is going to look at that in time for

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Speaker 2: Game four, but I would you should.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, P if you I hadn't seen the play, you

745
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Speaker 7: could understand and beat I'm protecting myself. I'm injured. Sure, Sure,

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Speaker 7: But when you watch a play he takes a shoulder

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Speaker 7: from another player, he hits the deck, he doesn't get

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Speaker 7: the call. Yes, and Robinson's above him fighting for a rebound,

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Speaker 7: and he hooks him with a leg, then grabs his

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Speaker 7: other leg and pulls him. He's not, yeah, of avoiding anything,

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Speaker 7: He's actually in making it happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now he does take a shoulder and he goes to

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Speaker 2: the floor, And I think he's reacting that way, like

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Speaker 2: you didn't call that, I'm going to grab you do?

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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to protect himself. I don't do

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Speaker 2: I think he was going out of his way to

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Speaker 2: try to do something to the Knicks. I do I

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00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: get the reaction. He didn't get a call at the

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Speaker 2: other end, and then, you know, seven seconds later this happens.

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Speaker 2: He gets knocked to the floor. But the NBA should

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Speaker 2: look at that. I don't know if they're going to

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Speaker 2: punish him after the fact, but it's not a good look.

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Speaker 1: Not a good look. But they got the win.

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Speaker 2: Scored fifty uh Jalen Brunson had thirty nine and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, finally having a good game in this series.

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Speaker 2: Denver beat the Lakers. That's eleven consecutive wins over the

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Speaker 2: Lakers if you include the postseason steat of the Day,

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Speaker 2: SAT of the Day, pop up, Dad of the day,

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Speaker 2: stat of the day.

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Speaker 1: Here comes that what stat of the day. And the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are really consistent.

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Speaker 2: They're leading at halftime and they've now blown a lead

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Speaker 2: of twelve or more points in each of their last

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Speaker 2: four playoff losses to the Nuggets. Good for them, Yeah, yeah, consistent. Man,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be some changes. I wonder if darvinham can

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Speaker 2: hold on because you know, all of a sudden, a

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Speaker 2: D's calling them out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, so you got swept last year.

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Speaker 2: Now I did say I didn't think they were going

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Speaker 2: to get swept this year, and I hope they win.

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Speaker 2: They better win game four. That Yes, yeah, I told

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Speaker 2: you they wouldn't get swept. Yes, Marvin, just one.

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Speaker 9: And it's funny because they keep saying, oh, you know what,

785
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Speaker 9: let's fight, let's have that competitive spirit. Hey, I think

786
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Speaker 9: they've been fighting. I just think the Nuggets are much

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Speaker 9: better than them.

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Speaker 1: But you.

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Speaker 2: Build a roster to try to counterattack being swept by

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Speaker 2: this team, and now you're on the verge of being swept.

791
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Speaker 2: So you're off season is about getting ready to beat Denver,

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Speaker 2: and here you are down three to zero.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Poul, I think Marvin's dead on. Like, I think

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Speaker 7: there's gonna be a ton of reaction because it's a

795
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Speaker 7: Lakers losing and possibly getting swept, but you're you're facing

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Speaker 7: a drastically better team. I know you've got some big

797
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 7: names on your roster with the Lakers, but the team,

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Speaker 7: the starting five, when they run the break Denver, it's

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Speaker 7: like a swarm of bees. And I don't think I'd

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Speaker 7: be surprised. I'd be shocked if they got two games

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Speaker 7: in the series.

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Speaker 2: It feels like there's seven players on the Nuggets when

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Speaker 2: they're on a fast break.

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Speaker 1: And I've checked not no, there is still five.

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Speaker 2: I checked for you, But then you got D'Angelo Russell

806
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Speaker 2: who give it and take it away like he's just

807
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: not a consistent guy for you. And you thought you

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Speaker 2: were getting, you know, depth with your bench. And I

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00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: mean Denver's top heavy, they're starting.

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Speaker 9: Five, middle heavy, bottom heavy.

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Speaker 1: No, they're I mean they don't have a deep bench.

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Speaker 9: But whoever plays for them for some odd reason, they

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Speaker 9: have a career night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because you have Joker. Yeah, Joker makes everybody better.

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Speaker 2: And how many superstars want to pass first Steve Nash

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Speaker 2: Magic short list. That's a short list for like forty years. Yeah, yes, Ton, I.

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Speaker 10: Think it was Porter who said last night he's a

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Speaker 10: genius on the court. He sees things ahead of time

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Speaker 10: and makes us all better. And we know, you know,

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Speaker 10: several seconds ahead of time, how the floor is going

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Speaker 10: to be sput out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ton, welcome. He's just seven foot Gretzki. It's

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Speaker 2: just what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 1: I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Final hour on the way, Ross Tucker will join us

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Speaker 2: and we'll give you nfl over undertotals after last night