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Speaker 3: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,

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Speaker 3: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the election coverage.

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Speaker 3: Let's get started.

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Speaker 2: Here are Clay and Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Don Junior is with us now. He was at the incredible,

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Speaker 1: the electric, the historic and very happy and fun. I

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Speaker 1: might add an America Great Making rally at Madison Squared Garden. Don.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back on the show. Clay and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't make it. But how was it? Tell everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: We probably have some New York wr listeners who were there,

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Speaker 1: but for everyone around the rest of the country, tell

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Speaker 1: us about this rally, what it meant to you and

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Speaker 1: what it felt like to actually be right there in

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Speaker 1: the mix.

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Speaker 4: It was incredible, guys, It was truly amazing. Grove with

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Speaker 4: my father down to the raillway from Trump Power to

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Speaker 4: MSG you know whatever. It is twenty five blocks of

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Speaker 4: New York City just lined with MAGA hats. You sell

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Speaker 4: out Madison Square Garden and I think they head over

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Speaker 4: seventy five thousand people overflow, crowd hanging out outside, so

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Speaker 4: just amazing. It just shows you the sign of the times.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've been doing this for a while now,

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Speaker 4: and my third time around, I could have never even

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Speaker 4: imagined this in sixteen or in twenty. It's just a

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Speaker 4: very different world out there. People get it, they understand

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Speaker 4: what's happening, and they're sick of it.

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Speaker 2: So what is the significance here as we come down

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Speaker 2: the home stretch. I know you spoke your dad. I

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Speaker 2: thought was fantastic. I watched it elon. I mean, there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of great, great speakers, but I believe

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Speaker 2: there are going to be rallies. Unless I'm wrong, you

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Speaker 2: can correct me. New Mexico, Minnesota, Virginia, and New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: down the stretch. Those are states that aren't even considered battlegrounds.

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Speaker 2: How good do you expect to do on early voting

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Speaker 2: and election day? And what did those places tell us

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Speaker 2: about what your dad seeing on the map?

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Speaker 4: I mean, the early voting numbers have been incredible, but

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Speaker 4: what's best about them is that it's not even our

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Speaker 4: high propensity voters. Those guys still haven't voted yet. You

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Speaker 4: know they are the people that are going to vote

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Speaker 4: It's the guys that are the lowest propensity voters or

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Speaker 4: the mid propensity voters that have been out there you know,

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Speaker 4: not like we just finished early. The numbers are all

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Speaker 4: indicative of like we're still going to have a really

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Speaker 4: strong election day. And so when you're looking at these

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Speaker 4: these states and Republicans have a lead in the early vote,

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Speaker 4: but it's not even our reliable voters that just feels

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Speaker 4: really good. I mean, people just have to get out there.

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Speaker 4: They have to bring their friends, you know, as I

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Speaker 4: it's none of the things that America has stood for historically.

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Speaker 1: You know, don you're a New York City guy born

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Speaker 1: But I have to say this stuff about oh, Donald

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. But this this narrative, which is overwhelming,

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Speaker 4: Well? I mean, I think they're both mentally ill and lying,

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Speaker 4: fail time and time again. If Kamala Harris was going

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Speaker 4: They must be the same. It's a desperate attempt to

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Speaker 4: Just keep putting her on the air, give her a mic,

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Speaker 4: let her speak. The American people hear it every time,

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Speaker 4: and they realize that this is not only an incompetent person,

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Donald Trump Junior. I know you're a

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Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent right. Trump's the guy. You experienced

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Speaker 2: Are you feeling that seeing it too?

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? I mean, you know, it's not even like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, it would have never been a socially acceptable

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Speaker 4: They're just doing it out in the open right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, supporting Trump, you know, it's counterculture. It's now,

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Speaker 4: it's cool. You're you're you're a badass if you're actually

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Speaker 4: it's not just the athletes. I think that's been going

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Speaker 2: I don't want to count any chickens before they hatch.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking of Don Junior. Everybody Donald Trump Junior. But

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Speaker 2: let's assume for a second that the right decisions made here,

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Speaker 2: your dad gets four more years.

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Speaker 1: Can you just take us a little bit into the

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Speaker 1: came up in the Rogan podcast. You know, your dad said,

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Speaker 1: what is that team formation going to look like? And

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, last time around, it was I

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Speaker 4: this time around, that's very different. You know who the

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Speaker 4: You know that there's some sort of unelected official that's

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Speaker 4: it our way. It's just so different. So I think

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Speaker 4: from a personnel standpoint, Uh, you know those things that's gone.

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Speaker 4: But also this time around you have something totally unique,

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Speaker 4: right you have Uh, you know a guy like an Elon, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I want to work on government efficiency. I mean, a

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Speaker 1: really gonna if we get Trump in? Is Elon really

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Speaker 4: wouldn't want that? My father certainly wants that. Elon's offered

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of lynch pinned states out there,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been Pennsylvania right now. That's where I'm

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Speaker 2: And then are you going to be at mar A Lago?

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Speaker 1: Did do you guys make Baron ben down in family photos?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, you know, yeah, it's interesting. I'm like

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Speaker 2: Just one more time. You're in Pennsylvania right now. Your

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Speaker 2: line too. We appreciate the time. Great job yesterday at

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, guys, good talking to you.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with

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Speaker 2: Join now by the next Senator from the Great State

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Speaker 2: of India, Jim Banks. We actually, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: Hangs out.

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck both excited to have you. Congressman. What

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Speaker 4: Either one. What a great year this is going to

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Speaker 4: the White House and the Indiana Hoosiers win the national

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Speaker 4: the early voting in Evansville, just like all over the

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Speaker 1: Next Tuesday, Congress and Banks. I'm just wondering, how is

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're very confident that you're gonna You're

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Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering, are we seeing the oh, I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not seeing that here. My opponent is missing

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Speaker 4: Almost anywhere else, Indiana is as Republican as it's ever

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Speaker 4: Those union, working class, blue collar voters in Pennsylvania aren't

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Speaker 4: I see it in my state. I've been on the road.

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Speaker 4: By the way, JD. Vance was absolutely the best pick

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Speaker 1: going to be particularly affected this time around, And what's

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Speaker 1: your view of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, look, take Nevada

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Speaker 4: for example, a forty thousand vote margin over five percent

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Speaker 4: margin over Democrats and early voting. I mean that's the story.

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Speaker 4: I mean four years ago, if any mistake was made,

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Speaker 4: it was to discourage early voting and absentee voting. This time,

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Speaker 4: President Trump Republicans all over the country at telling I

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Speaker 4: just met with a large group of republic voters in Evansville.

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Speaker 4: In the end, it's on to go vote today, go

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Speaker 4: vote early, and take somebody with you. That advantage that

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Speaker 4: we're going to have in early voting is going to

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Speaker 4: make a big difference. So this is a this is

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Speaker 4: a part of the overall strategy. It's really important, and

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Speaker 4: you're seeing it in the swing states. You know, Nevada

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Speaker 4: is a state that Republicans have to win. I think

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Speaker 4: we are going to win it. I think we're going

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Speaker 4: to win it by a fair amount. But you see

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Speaker 4: these early voting Republican margins and advantage over Democrats and

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Speaker 4: states like that, it gives me a lot of optimism.

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Speaker 2: You are going to be in the Senate. You've got

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Speaker 2: open seats in Michigan, in West Virginia, you got challenge

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Speaker 2: seats in Ohio, Montana, in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin with incumbents Arizona, Nevada.

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Speaker 2: As you just mentioned, how optimistic are you based on

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing not only about the presidential race, but

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Speaker 2: about Republicans taking back control of the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Well, guys, I just look at these these polls, and

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Speaker 4: you know, two or three months ago, Uh, Eric Covedy

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Speaker 4: in Wisconsin. Uh, it wasn't. It wasn't a race that

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Speaker 4: was on everybody's radar. Today is tied the same thing

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Speaker 4: McCormick and Pennsylvania's tied. Mike Rodgers in Michigan is in

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Speaker 4: the margin of air. Uh. And that that these polls,

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Speaker 4: they all again get back to this point. The Trump

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Speaker 4: brings out voters should don't vote otherwise these races are

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Speaker 4: going to be really close. But the Trump the Trump

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Speaker 4: voters going to come out in a way and carry

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Speaker 4: these candidates over the top if we keep doing what

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Speaker 4: we're doing. We've got a week week to go. We

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Speaker 4: can't take anything for granted that all of these races

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Speaker 4: are going to be close. From from the presidential race,

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Speaker 4: the Senate races. We've got close races in Indiana for

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Speaker 4: a closer race, and uh, in our governor's race, I

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Speaker 4: think Mike Brown is gonna win by by by by

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Speaker 4: by by a fair amount. But we can't take any

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Speaker 4: of these races for granted. We've got to get out

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Speaker 4: and vote early and take people with us to do it.

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Speaker 4: So the high water mark for Republicans in our lifetime

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Speaker 4: has been a fifty five seat majority, and that's not

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Speaker 4: out of reach. I mean in Montana, in Ohio, we

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Speaker 4: have two great opportunities that gives us to fifty two.

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Speaker 4: And then you get Hubby McCormick and Rogers. In these

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Speaker 4: Midwest seats, you get Dan Brown's my favorite candidate in

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Speaker 4: the country, is a real American hero in Nevada, Carry

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Speaker 4: Lake in Arizona. Opportunity here to break the record and

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Speaker 4: have the biggest Republican majority of the Senate that we've

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Speaker 4: had in our lifetime.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, Congressman soon to be Senator. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: coming on with us. Have a good last week of running,

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Speaker 2: and we look forward to seeing you in the Senate

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Speaker 2: in a few months.

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Speaker 4: Great to be with you. Have a good day.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 3: Politics with Clay Travis att Box Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Battleground Wisconsin, my friends, among the most important states in

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Speaker 1: this election, and we're going to find out how it

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Speaker 1: goes in just a few days. A friend, Eric Hovedy,

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Speaker 1: joins us now. He's running against incumbent Swamp Democrat Tammy Baldwin,

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Speaker 1: and Eric, I could say, the good news is that

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Speaker 1: you are within a point according to Real Clear Politics average,

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Speaker 1: and there are some pulsters that do have you up

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Speaker 1: a point. So it is as neck and neck as

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Speaker 1: a race can be at this point. What do you

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Speaker 1: We wanted to just bring you on because we feel

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Speaker 1: like this one we gotta win Wisconsin for Trump. We

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Speaker 1: gotta win Wisconsin for you in the Senate. What's it

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Speaker 1: like in the final days, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 5: Look the energies on our side. Momentum is very important.

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Speaker 5: You know, think of how important momentum is in business

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Speaker 5: or sports. Well, in politics it's critical because you got

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Speaker 5: to stop that date and look. The momentum is definitely

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Speaker 5: in our direction. You've seen it in the polls, the

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Speaker 5: excitement on our side you're seeing and early voting. But

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Speaker 5: we just need to keep it going. I mean, every

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Speaker 5: one of your listeners that's listening today, they got to

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Speaker 5: not only make sure they get out and vote, but

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Speaker 5: they got to get their friends, their colleagues, their neighbors,

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Speaker 5: the people they hunt and fish with and watch packer

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Speaker 5: games with, and all the rest. I mean, we just

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Speaker 5: everybody's got to do their effort. President Trump and me

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Speaker 5: are the tips of the spears, but we can't do

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Speaker 5: it without everybody's help.

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Speaker 4: So I feel.

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Speaker 5: Good, But I'm going to run all the way through

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Speaker 5: the finish line. I'm giving five six speeches a day.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing the Trump rally tonight, and you know what,

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Speaker 5: I'll just collapse after I get through Next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I believe Brett Farv is going to be at the

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Speaker 2: Trump rally tonight if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, one of

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Speaker 2: the all time greats for Packer fans out there, what

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Speaker 2: kind of preview can you give us for what that

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Speaker 2: rally tonight in Wisconsin will be like.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think it's going to be rocking. I love

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Speaker 5: it that Brett Favre's coming up by me. He's my

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Speaker 5: all time favorite Packer player because I was a kid

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Speaker 5: suffering for the twenty years they stunk at Post Lobardi

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Speaker 5: until far came. So I think it's gonna bring a

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Speaker 5: lot of excitement. So yeah, I'm gonna be up speaking mates,

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Speaker 5: get up and speak with President Trump because every time

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Speaker 5: he comes, he always likes pulling me up on stage.

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Speaker 5: But I'll definitely be speaking beforehand. It'll be fun hanging

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Speaker 5: out with Brett Favre and then maybe after share a

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Speaker 5: couple beers together. By the way, guys, you all to

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Speaker 5: know how desperate the Democrats are. They're running in ad

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Speaker 5: saying I want to ban beer.

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Speaker 3: Wow, way that would be.

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Speaker 2: That would be a tough thing to do in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: I would thank you guys. Drink more beer than anybody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and you know it's not like my refrigerator's

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Speaker 5: not stuffed with beer. So it's just priceless the crazy

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Speaker 5: stuff they'll do. But you know, look, she he is

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Speaker 5: so corrupt. Every single one of her li ads are

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Speaker 5: a lie. She's trying to claim I want to take

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Speaker 5: Social Security away. She's the one bankrupting it. I'm saying

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Speaker 5: we got to protect it. She's trying to attack me,

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Speaker 5: saying I want to take veterans benefits away. I'm after

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Speaker 5: her because she's allowed illegal immigrants, you know, cash payments

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Speaker 5: and putting them up in hotels when we've got veterans

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Speaker 5: living on the streets. She is just absolutely wrong on everything.

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Speaker 5: And the only thing she's perfected in Washington, DC is

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Speaker 5: the art of line and that's about it.

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Speaker 1: How is the ground game looking in Wisconsin for the

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Speaker 1: GOP side. I know you're very very much on the

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Speaker 1: front lines of that with your campaign, But are we

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Speaker 1: seeing some of the shift in approach from the previous

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Speaker 1: election comes to early voting? And also, we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are worried that there's going to

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Speaker 1: be Shenanigan's going on. Eric, what can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about election integrity measures in your state? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know your judiciary. Unfortunately state judiciary, they may be on

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Speaker 1: the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 5: Oh look, I'm very concerned because they won't clean up

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Speaker 5: our voter roles. I mean, geez, I wish we had

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Speaker 5: a governor like what's going on in Virginia and you know,

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Speaker 5: like kempt it in Georgia. But you know, they purposely

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Speaker 5: leave people that you know that shouldn't be on the

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Speaker 5: voter rolls anymore. So, yeah, I'm concerned about it. Are

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Speaker 5: we in a better position today than in twenty Absolutely

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Speaker 5: we don't have we ban zucker Bucks. There's been some

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Speaker 5: election cases that have gone in our favor. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're always worried that the Shenanigans that they're going to

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Speaker 5: play because they'll do anything. They don't have any kind

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Speaker 5: of moral compass to them. At the same time, on

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Speaker 5: the ground game, I feel the ground games in a

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Speaker 5: much better position than it was back four years ago.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's everybody's heard about, you know, Elon Musk

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Speaker 5: organization that's doing stuff, but I think there's some other

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Speaker 5: groups out there also, So I think the ground games

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Speaker 5: in pretty good shape. To be honest with you, you.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned early voting. What is the law in Wisconsin on

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Speaker 2: early voting? We have a monster audience, as you well know,

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Speaker 2: all over the state of Wisconsin. What should people know

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Speaker 2: about early voting, and what are those early returns looking

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Speaker 2: like for you?

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Speaker 5: Well, right now early voting's looking better for Republicans worse

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Speaker 5: for Democrats than it was in sixteen and in twenty.

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Speaker 5: So the trend lines look good, but we need to

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Speaker 5: keep it up because here's the simple fact. You can't

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Speaker 5: just wait until election day because you don't know what's

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Speaker 5: going to happen. Maybe on election day you get in

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Speaker 5: a car accident, maybe your child gets sick, maybe something

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Speaker 5: crisis comes up at work, maybe you have to do

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Speaker 5: last second travel. So I encourage people to get out

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Speaker 5: and vote early, and then there's another benefit by doing that.

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Speaker 5: Then it allows us to talk get those people that

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Speaker 5: haven't gotten their vote, so we don't have to spend resources.

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Speaker 5: And then if you vote early, then on election day

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Speaker 5: you can go grab your friend or your colleague or

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Speaker 5: whatever and make sure you know, if you have real

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Speaker 5: elderly parents, get them out, get them out early. So

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Speaker 5: it's just it's such a ground game and everybody has

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Speaker 5: to play their part. And look, my success in President

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Speaker 5: Trump's success are all dependent on the people that are

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Speaker 5: listening to your shows, and everybody just has to step

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Speaker 5: up because we need change in this country. I mean,

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Speaker 5: what they've done in the last four years. This is

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Speaker 5: going to be the most consequential election. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: do President Trump and I want to do. He wants

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Speaker 5: to make America great again, which I'm fully I'm on board,

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Speaker 5: and I want to restore the American dream. What do

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Speaker 5: Baldwin and Harris want to do? They want to change America.

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Speaker 4: That's what they.

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Speaker 5: Told you four years ago, and man, they sure have

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Speaker 5: and it's not for the better.

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Speaker 1: Eric Cammy ball in the incumbent, very sly Democrat, But

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Speaker 1: I just want, for the purposes of truth and fairness,

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Speaker 1: tell us where on a major issue, because she's a maverick, Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what she's telling people Wisconsin. She'll go her own

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Speaker 1: way and she'll represent their interests. Right, that's what she says.

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Speaker 1: Where has she broken with Chuck Schumer, Like when Chuck

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Speaker 1: says do this, Tammy, where has she said, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to go along with your left wing agenda.

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Speaker 5: Never. In fact, she's more left wing than Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 5: She's just always masqueraded back in our state as a moderate,

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Speaker 5: except in the Madison area, where she's her full true

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Speaker 5: progressive left colors. I mean, she's always been voted one

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Speaker 5: of the top three most progressive left senators, and you know,

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Speaker 5: she's one of the ones that are really pushing this transgenderism.

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Speaker 5: She pushed that gave that Earmark, our tax Paara dollar

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Speaker 5: money to a Madison clinic that is transgendering kids, and

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Speaker 5: then they have been walking journal Sentine'll say, oh, that's

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Speaker 5: not true that clinic changed their website. They're stupid though,

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Speaker 5: because everybody had a snapshot of what their former website

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Speaker 5: that literally says it and says without parents notification. She's

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Speaker 5: the one pushing this whole thing of guys playing girls

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Speaker 5: sports and going into girls' bathrooms and locker rooms. She's

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Speaker 5: the one who voted for giving cash payments to legal

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Speaker 5: immigrants and putting them up in hotels. She's always been

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Speaker 5: way out on the left. She's just now being exposed.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Eric Hovey, who should be the next

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Speaker 2: senator from the state of Wisconsin, since that Trump is

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Speaker 2: doing pretty well there. Because to build on what you

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Speaker 2: just said in the question, Buck just asked, Tammy Baldwin

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Speaker 2: now is running ads with Donald Trump in them? To

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Speaker 2: my understanding, saying, oh, I'll work across the aisle. That

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Speaker 2: must be a sign that Trump is looking pretty good.

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Speaker 2: What would you say to anybody out there that is

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Speaker 2: thinking about splitting their ballot? Aren't you just cutting Trump's

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Speaker 2: legs out from underneath him if you're not going Trump

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Speaker 2: Hubby straight down the ballot?

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Speaker 5: Oh of course. Well, first of all, she called Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump one of the most dangerous men with a dark soul,

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Speaker 5: and had a lot of other negative things to say.

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Speaker 5: She's had very derogatory comments about Trump voters. And by

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Speaker 5: the way, if he doesn't have you know, think of

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Speaker 5: a football team. You can have the greatest quarterback, but

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Speaker 5: if you don't have an offensive line, you're going to

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Speaker 5: be running for your life. So, you know, President Trump

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Speaker 5: needs people in the Senate to get his agenda through

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Speaker 5: because otherwise what are the Democrats going to do. They're

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Speaker 5: immediately going to start trying to impeach them day one.

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Speaker 5: We know they're going to do that all They did

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Speaker 5: it twice last time. So you know, President Trump and

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Speaker 5: I have a great relationship. He laughs at you know,

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Speaker 5: Center Baldwin trying to take credit like he ever worked

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Speaker 5: with her. Give me a break. She's one of the

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Speaker 5: biggest people that was opposing everything that he stood for.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, if you're thinking of voting for

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Speaker 5: Tammy Baldwin and Donald Trump, then you know there was

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Speaker 5: about on the polar opposite as you possibly could get.

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Speaker 5: And all she wants to do is see President Trump

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Speaker 5: get impeached. So look, I I'd be honored to have

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Speaker 5: all your listeners votes. I need them President Trump and

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Speaker 5: I want to turn this country around. We've got to

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Speaker 5: save our country. We're blessed to live in America, the

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Speaker 5: greatest country that mankind's ever known, but if we don't

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Speaker 5: get it going in the right direction, we won't recognize

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Speaker 5: it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Eric, where can people go to donate help get out

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Speaker 1: there in these last critical days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks guys to Eric E. R I C hub

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Speaker 5: the h o VD dot com if we're trying to

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Speaker 5: stay up on air to match her. So I really

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Speaker 5: appreciating all the donations. Put up signs, go out and vote,

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Speaker 5: and guys, it's always been great being on your show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Let's go, Let's go save our

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Speaker 5: wonderful country.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go close us out for Hovedy, Wisconsin Heights. We

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Speaker 1: got so many of you, I mean, we are number

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Speaker 1: one in Milwaukee, So you know, just saying, so please

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Speaker 1: get out there, do what you can and get those

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Speaker 1: votes lined up for Trump, for Hovedy, for everyone else

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Speaker 1: down ballot on the Republican side. And let's bring this,

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Speaker 1: let's bring home the w everybody. Twenty four is brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Puretalk cell phone service. Never sounded so good.

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Speaker 2: Dial pound two five zero and say the keywords Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck.

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Speaker 3: If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact

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Speaker 3: with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic data rolling in on early voting all over the country.

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Speaker 2: Get out and vote. Arizona, Nevada, and North Carolina Florida,

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Speaker 2: four states where they distinguish between Republican and Democrat voters,

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Speaker 2: and Republicans are showing up in big numbers all over

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Speaker 2: Keep the pro pure on. The game plan is working.

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to win in seven days if the

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Speaker 2: enthusiasm remains high, and if all of you get out

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Speaker 2: and do your civic duty and vote. Encourage you to

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Speaker 2: vote early if you can and see people still are

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Speaker 2: asking the question. I understand you're not able to listen

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Speaker 2: to every segment. We've been talking about it for a while.

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Speaker 2: What's the benefit of voting early. The benefit of voting

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Speaker 2: early is once they can check you off, they get

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Speaker 2: the roster of voters. Once they can check you off,

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Speaker 2: it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. This

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Speaker 2: is what Democrats have done a great job of Why

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Speaker 2: banking votes matters because you have limited resources and if,

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Speaker 2: for instance, you're one of the millions of people that

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Speaker 2: have voted, and there are reports now that over fifty

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Speaker 2: million people have already voted, so we're talking about whatever

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Speaker 2: that's going to end up being around a third of

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Speaker 2: all votes have already voted. I think probably close to

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Speaker 2: half of you overall are going to vote early before

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Speaker 2: we even get to election day. But it allows other

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Speaker 2: money and resources to be spent on people that may

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Speaker 2: need it. Maybe somebody needs a ride to the polls.

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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody is not as plugged in as you are,

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Speaker 2: who are listening to this program right now and they

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Speaker 2: just haven't been focused on the race. But they're Trump

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Speaker 2: voters and they need to be reached out to. When

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Speaker 2: you bank your vote, then they are able to focus

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Speaker 2: on others put those resources elsewhere. So Buck voted early.

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Speaker 2: I voted early. You heard Bill O'Reilly with us earlier.

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Speaker 2: He voted early. And by the way, thanks to Ryan Gardeski,

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Speaker 2: who just joined us to talk about him being banned

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Speaker 2: from CNN. We're going to talk with Jim Banks, who's

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Speaker 2: going to be the next Senator from Indiana, at the

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Speaker 2: bottom of this hour. FYI just headed in your direction,

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Speaker 2: But Buck, I wanted to hit on a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We haven't talked about it a great deal, but the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post, the LA Times, and now USA Today have

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Speaker 2: all chosen not to endorse a presidential candidate. The fallout

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Speaker 2: at the Washington Post in particular has been pretty incredible,

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Speaker 2: and Jeff Bezos penned last night and editorial that I

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Speaker 2: believe is in today's Washington Post print edition. But ten

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Speaker 2: percent of the Washington Post's overall subscribers, around two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions to The

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Speaker 2: Washington Post because Jeff Bezos made the decision not to

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Speaker 2: endorse Kamala Harris. And but there were a couple of

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Speaker 2: lines that I thought were particularly interesting from that Bezos

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Speaker 2: piece that I was going to hit you with, and

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Speaker 2: just off the top, I agree with him. I think

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Speaker 2: the idea that you should be out there. Endorsing a

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Speaker 2: newspaper when you claim that you are unbiased and nonpartisan

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Speaker 2: is important. And this is how he started off. Nobody

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Speaker 2: trusts journalists basically anymore. And he said, we must be accurate.

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Speaker 2: We must be believed to be accurate. It's a bitter

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Speaker 2: pill to swallow, but we're failing on the second requirement.

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Speaker 2: Most people believe the media is biased, and those who

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Speaker 2: don't believe that aren't paying attention to reality. I read

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Speaker 2: his piece last night. I agreed with most of it.

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Speaker 2: Now I question where's he been for the last eleven years,

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Speaker 2: because he's one of the reasons the way the Washington

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Speaker 2: Post has been written and covered in writing democracy dies

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Speaker 2: in darkness at the top of the newspaper. His paper

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Speaker 2: has been emblematic of the collapse in trust. But maybe

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Speaker 2: better late than than than never. And I actually agree

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Speaker 2: with almost everything he wrote in the piece.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's there's a prom that these these legacy media

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Speaker 1: outlets have CNN among them, Washington Post, the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: which is the more that they embrace partisanship as their

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Speaker 1: primary goal, the less their news organizations. And if they're

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Speaker 1: not news organizations, why should they occupy this exalted space, Like,

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Speaker 1: what why should the New York Times be treated as

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Speaker 1: in any way more authoritative than say The Nation, which

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Speaker 1: is communist slop online, full on communist slop. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've actually spent time reading Slate dot com the Nation,

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Speaker 1: so I know these sites same way that I watched

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe. I like to go. I like to go,

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Speaker 1: you know, maneuvering through the enemy camp when they're not

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Speaker 1: paying attention and Clay. The answer is, there's no reason

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Speaker 1: other than just kind of tradition. You know, heritage, Like

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Speaker 1: New York Times is really old. You know, the New

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Speaker 1: York Post is really old too, and I think the

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Speaker 1: New York Post is a much better paper. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason to give these places greater credibility in the public sphere,

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Speaker 1: which affects their brand, which affects their value, affects everything.

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Speaker 1: So I think bezos from the business side of things.

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Speaker 1: I'm as just gonna put it out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: a guy maybe maybe.

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Speaker 6: Maybe gets on a little trt, you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: know what else, maybe gets a little little of the

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Speaker 6: juices flowing there, puts on a little muscle. It's got

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Speaker 6: his bikini clad girlfriend run around everywhere and all of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden, he's a little more. He's not right wing, but

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Speaker 1: he's no longer a full blown communist. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: moving in that direction. And I think, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I would, I think in ten years Jeff Bezos will

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Speaker 1: be a Republican based on his current trajectory. I think

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Speaker 1: in ten years, I know it's a long ways out,

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Speaker 1: but I think as he gets older and wiser and

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Speaker 1: sees more and has more of this responsibility of being

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Speaker 1: one of the richest people on the planet on his shoulders,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be more right wing. Maybe he won't

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Speaker 1: be quite a Republican, he'll be independent, but Clay, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna keep moving in that direction.

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Speaker 2: I am an unabashed lover of newspapers. I if you

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Speaker 2: see me on an airplane flight, and it's a very

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Speaker 2: long flight at all, I get on an airplane bucks

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Speaker 2: sometimes with like six or seven newspapers. I love reading newspapers,

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Speaker 2: even newspapers that have articles where I just am like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you kidding me, this is the dumbest argument I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I still love consuming that information, reading it all. The

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Speaker 2: Washington Post used to be a really intelligent somewhat again,

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Speaker 2: we know it's left of center, maybe even substantially left

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Speaker 2: of center. But everybody in the DC area, whether you

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Speaker 2: were a Democrat or a Republican, used to read the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post every single day.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't wasn't Crodhammer a columnist there. I mean, they've had,

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Speaker 1: they've had George Will. George I like.

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Speaker 2: But he's like an old, like crotchety event. But yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean they had. He's probably voting Kamala this time around.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, sure, yeah, right, I get it that a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys are I mean we I think

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Speaker 2: George Will, if you got I'm a Bezos routine, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Maybe hell little peptides got to

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Speaker 2: the gym, I think he'd start changing his voting patterns

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Speaker 2: a little too. But my point on that is it's

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Speaker 2: undeniable that the Washington Posts overall brand has collapsed. And

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Speaker 2: this is my argument. And I see it because I

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Speaker 2: come from the world of sports. When I see two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand people have canceled their subscriptions, these

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Speaker 2: are not people that want news. These are people that

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Speaker 2: want to be told your team is the best, We're

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Speaker 2: the saviors, We're the heroes, and I see it from sports, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because one of the most consistently good business models online

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Speaker 2: in sports has been fan message boards. And when you

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Speaker 2: are too negative about a team, everybody at bails on

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Speaker 2: it because they come to the fan message board. I'm

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Speaker 2: a member, I'm a University of Tennessee fan. I want

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Speaker 2: to go read good things about my team. I want

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Speaker 2: to hear, hey, they're doing great, coaches are amazing. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that you're lying, but just means that the slant

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Speaker 2: of a team based publication is going to be in

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Speaker 2: favor of the team, and as soon as it turns

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Speaker 2: to negative, people bail. And to me, that's what the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post became. I mean again, I've made this analogy before, Bluck,

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Speaker 2: but when I was in college, they treated Bill Clinton

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Speaker 2: and the Monica Lewinsky scandal like it was a major

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Speaker 2: earth shattering issue and their reporting did not in any

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Speaker 2: way make Bill Clinton more powerful than he otherwise would

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Speaker 2: have been. They treated him on some level like they

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Speaker 2: did Nixon Watergate. Joe Biden has more corruption and hunter

862
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Speaker 2: Biden in his background than any president in the twenty

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Speaker 2: first century, for sure, and they pretended it didn't exist.

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Speaker 1: I do think Matt Drudge broke the Monica story, which

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Speaker 1: is what launched the Drudge Report, and then the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post and others began to cover it. So you're talking

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Speaker 1: about this, but.

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Speaker 2: On every day, every day they would have a new

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Speaker 2: story about Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton. They are it is

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Speaker 2: a big It is actually a big story, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. But it was just funny that none

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Speaker 2: of the news organization the quote Beltway news organizations broke

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Speaker 2: the story. I believe it was Rudge. Have you been Rudge?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happens? It said, I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: makes it's a bummer.

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Speaker 2: Page for a dash as the lead story like every

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Speaker 2: day now, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't have it. Everyone I talked to on the right,

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Speaker 1: all the old guard on the right too, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what happened to Matt Rudge the guys who know him,

881
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Speaker 1: and everyone's like, I don't know. So that's I don't

882
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Speaker 1: have a good answer other than it's a shame. I

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Speaker 1: wish I wish it wasn't so, but okay, so so

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Speaker 1: on the uh, well, we have a Wappo clip here.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty one and it goes to exactly uh what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here the two hundred thousand subscriber exitus.

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Speaker 1: Play that for a second.

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Speaker 7: And the three days since I first wrote about the

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Speaker 7: decision by owner Jeff Bezos to block a play endorsement

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Speaker 7: of Vice president Kamala Harris by the Post's editorial board,

891
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Speaker 7: you've seen a series of resignation, to calmness, resigned to

892
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Speaker 7: editorial writers, resigned, and you've also seen this sort of

893
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Speaker 7: revulsion or outcry on social media.

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Speaker 3: Well, it turns out to be real that over two.

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Speaker 7: Hundred thousand people has canceled subscriptions to The Washington Post

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Speaker 7: in just three days, and that figure is rising. I'm

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Speaker 7: told you know that reflects about eight percent of the Post.

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Speaker 7: Call it two point five million subscribers. If you can

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Speaker 7: bind digital and print subscriptions, and it's an astonishing react.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, astonishing. Okay, First of all, two things that

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Speaker 1: I have for you. Play one. I don't think anyone

902
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Speaker 1: cares who newspaper endorses. I don't think it matters except

903
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Speaker 1: for the people who work there, because it's a signal

904
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Speaker 1: to them we are a partisan outfit. We are here

905
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Speaker 1: for one. It all at the editorial page goes in

906
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Speaker 1: for that candidate. It gives a lot more cover to

907
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Speaker 1: the rest of the newsroom to try to play the

908
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Speaker 1: game too. That's part one, Part two. I think of

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Speaker 1: you on here with you're trying to you're trying to

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Speaker 1: blackmail Jeff Bezos with money. That's what Jeff Bezos should say.

911
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Speaker 1: But he should go full to Elon and be like, oh,

912
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Speaker 1: I lost eight percent of my subscribers for what is

913
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Speaker 1: effectively a vanity side project owning the post. He doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: This is where he's inoculated from the media environment subscriber base. Now,

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Speaker 2: he may not want to lose one hundred million dollars

916
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Speaker 2: a year or whatever that Post is losing on an

917
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Speaker 2: annual basis, but one hundred million dollars a year is

918
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Speaker 2: like what Jeff Bezos spends on his yacht. I mean,

919
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Speaker 2: it isn't even it isn't even like a rounding error

920
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Speaker 2: to him, Like he doesn't even necessarily notice it. And

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Speaker 2: this is where I actually give a lot of credit

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Speaker 2: to Bezos. And I haven't done that, but it is.

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Speaker 2: And I've been making this argument for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: It never has made sense to me that you claim

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Speaker 2: your newspaper is unbiased, nonpartisan, and then when an election

927
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Speaker 2: comes around, you tell how everybody you think, how how

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Speaker 2: you think everyone should vote. Now, if you want to

929
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Speaker 2: have a super smart guy make the case for Kamala,

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Speaker 2: and you want to have a super smart guy make

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Speaker 2: the case for Trump, and you want to put both

932
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Speaker 2: of those on your editorial page. To me, that's what

933
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Speaker 2: the editorial page should be. Intelligent arguments from a variety

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Speaker 2: of perspectives. But the idea that making the decision not

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Speaker 2: to endorse was in some way an unforgivable sin is

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Speaker 2: to me an indictment of many of these people canceling

937
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Speaker 2: their subscriptions because they're not actually paying for news. They're

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Speaker 2: paying for their side to be declared the victor. And

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Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately for Jeff Bezos, he played into this

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Speaker 2: when he put democracy dies in Darkness on the top

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Speaker 2: of the Washington Post newspaper. I mean, if I were

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Speaker 2: running the Washington Post at the time, I would have

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Speaker 2: I would have pushed back against that. I think he's

944
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Speaker 2: created this worldview and now his reporters are upset because

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Speaker 2: their version of the place that they work has in

946
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: some way been challenged, and he's saying, hey, actually we

947
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Speaker 2: will to do real journalism, and they're revolting.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, well, their job is not journalism. I

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Speaker 1: mean this is they're actually proving by their actions and

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Speaker 1: even by the audience actions, they're proving the point that

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Speaker 1: Bezos is making, which is they're they're no law. It's

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Speaker 1: no longer a journalistic entity. It has lost its way. Fully,

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Speaker 1: I would say CNN the same thing. CNN was destroyed

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Speaker 1: by Jeff zucker because it just became a free for

955
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Speaker 1: all of Trump and republic, you know, anti Trump, anti Republican,

956
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: just bile and and it was gross. And then they

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Speaker 1: had people like Jake tapperl like, oh, I'm just here

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Speaker 1: with the facts, and Anderson Cooper, I'm just here with

959
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Speaker 1: the questions. Bull crap. We're not idiots, we know exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. And it's gross. It's gross.