WEBVTT - 1137 | Checking in on 2027 Contract Options, Walker and Cags in Derby, a Dodgers "Conundrum" 

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed participants as we chat at one thirty four pm

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<v Speaker 2>out East on Thursday, July ninth, in the home run

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<v Speaker 2>Derby excited to talk about that. We also crusted interesting

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<v Speaker 2>conversation on the call up that I want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>over to the Just Baseball Show, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend about ten minutes on that, figuring out the three

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<v Speaker 2>to five year plan for a team that has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good things going on right now. And then

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<v Speaker 2>arm had a great idea about checking in on the

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<v Speaker 2>player and club options for twenty twenty seven. So the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that have options, whether the team picks them up

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<v Speaker 2>or whether they can pick up their own contract beyond

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<v Speaker 2>this season, what do they do. All of that is

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<v Speaker 2>presented by the great folks at bet MGM or a

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<v Speaker 2>minder to make it legendary during the World's Game, during

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<v Speaker 2>All Star weekend, whatever you may have going on again,

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<v Speaker 2>bet MGM is there. Arm Leighton excited for this one

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<v Speaker 2>and Peyton Genis mentioned that this is a ball knower's derby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a ball Knower's Derby. The confirmed participants that

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<v Speaker 2>we have in the last twenty four hours Jack cagleone

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<v Speaker 2>of the Kansas City Royals, Jordan Walker of the Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Louis Cardinals, and Wilson Contreras of the Boston Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 2>They join already confirmed Junior Camonaro of the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>Rays and Ben Rice of the New York Yankees. So

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<v Speaker 2>three more spots yet to be filled. But this group

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<v Speaker 2>of five, with CAGs and Walker being the two notable

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<v Speaker 2>recent additions, this has the chance to be a special,

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<v Speaker 2>special Derby.

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<v Speaker 3>As you're saying that the home run that Junior Cammonaro

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<v Speaker 3>just hit off of Paul Blackburn is absolutely insane, Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>people are listening to this. You will see it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's like a slider that was never a strike

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<v Speaker 3>above the top of the zone and then slid across

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<v Speaker 3>away from him and he tomahawked it right center and

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<v Speaker 3>it got out on the absolute line. I've never I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I've ever seen somebody hit a slider

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<v Speaker 3>that like a sweeper, basically that high, moving that much

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<v Speaker 3>horizontally out at that angle. He is the best bad

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<v Speaker 3>ball hitter in Major League Baseball. And now I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's close Junior Camenarao, And that's not

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<v Speaker 3>a good derby. Actually that is a good derby skill.

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<v Speaker 3>When your pitcher's losing it, you can still just keep

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<v Speaker 3>ripping them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the yard, I think so. And yeah, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny to see that title we passed from Rafael Devers

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<v Speaker 2>to Junior Camentaro. But this title has officially been passed

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<v Speaker 2>from Raffei Devers to Cammonaro. Devers is inching closer to

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years old. I feel like you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>young to do that. And Cavin Arow is a fresh

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three years old. And what's so much fun about

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<v Speaker 2>this field in particular, and Junior Cammentaro is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>top of the food chain as it pertains to power is.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take a peek at the bat speed leader

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<v Speaker 2>boards and man, there are so many guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>top dogs in terms of bat speed here, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is just ridiculous to see what they are doing. Junior

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<v Speaker 2>Camentaro is the hardest swinger in Major League baseball. Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker is the second hard swing in Major League baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack cagleone is at seventh, Wilson Contreras is a tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing to see. And I'm excited for the

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<v Speaker 2>stat cast elements that are going to make their way

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<v Speaker 2>into the home run derby broadcast, by the way, on Netflix. Reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not on ESPN anymore. It's on Netflix. So excited

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<v Speaker 2>to see what that derby looks like on Netflix. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they are leaning into it. Seems like modern

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<v Speaker 2>criteria to select these guys, and I think Common Arrow

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<v Speaker 2>is the gold standard. And if you're with us on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>this is another look at that Common Arrow home run,

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<v Speaker 2>not only flirting with the ray tank in right center

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<v Speaker 2>field that was very close to being a possible splash down,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're right, that was a Frisbee sweeper that stayed

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<v Speaker 2>about letter high the whole entire time. He reached for

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<v Speaker 2>a pitch, a ball above the zone and a ball

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<v Speaker 2>outside the zone and shot it out to right center,

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<v Speaker 2>just to the right of the ray tank. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a special human being in the batter's box.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think this is the interesting part.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the great part about this derby and

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<v Speaker 3>where baseball's at in general, is you're gonna have I

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<v Speaker 3>think the Derby's transcendent, right, That's one of baseball's events

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<v Speaker 3>that reels people in that may not even watch baseball

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<v Speaker 3>very much. And if you are a football basketball fan

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<v Speaker 3>who rarely checks in on baseball, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that still watch the derby, you

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<v Speaker 3>may not be as familiar with with some.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these players.

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<v Speaker 3>I always really struggle with this, by the way, because

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<v Speaker 3>we're so deep in it that I don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes who are the players that people shouldn't or shouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'd imagine like even a Jack cag leone, like,

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<v Speaker 3>how familiar are you going to be with him at

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<v Speaker 3>this point? Jordan Walker, he's been great this year, But like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a Knicks fan who doesn't like baseball that much,

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<v Speaker 3>no way you know who Jordan Walker is, right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think on the surface, people might be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like the dunk contest right like, it's none of

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<v Speaker 3>the stars do it anymore. These are the guys the

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<v Speaker 3>baseball people want, and I think when you watch the Derby,

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<v Speaker 3>when that you know, non base ball fan watches the Derby,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna realize that really quickly because you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna see these dudes doing things that like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>remember back to other Derbies that you've watched and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys are different, these guys are crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's always gonna be providing the context.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, kemen Aro has the most home runs

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<v Speaker 3>by a player age twenty three since this, and Jordan

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<v Speaker 3>Walker is having one of the best seasons that we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen f I Cardinals since this, and people are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be like, wow, baseball has a lot of young talent,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I love this set up and where

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<v Speaker 3>we're at with the Derbies. Of course, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see Mike Trout doing whatever, but I'm cool with this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think this is what we like ultimately is

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<v Speaker 3>the best way to really showcase the talent that baseball has,

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<v Speaker 3>but also where the sport has come to, where these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are doing things on the field and hitting the

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<v Speaker 3>ball with such veracity that like we have never really

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<v Speaker 3>seen or at least not to this kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>consistency across several different players, And I love that they

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<v Speaker 3>are pursuing the stat cast darlings. Those are the guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are going to make it translate in these types

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<v Speaker 3>of events. It's it's not just game power, it's you

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<v Speaker 3>need the raw power. And these are some of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys that are the best in that department.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, one hundred percent and so excited for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>also want to bring up kind of the comp to

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<v Speaker 2>the Dunk Contest, because I understand that the Dunk Contest

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<v Speaker 2>has lost its fastball, and you've got guys that the

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<v Speaker 2>even casual NBA fan has never once heard of, like

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<v Speaker 2>guys in the NBA. I know, I know. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, like, you could be pro McClung, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is not mac McClung participating. Mac McClung participating would be

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Waller being in the home run derby, which would

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of fun. He would hit the ball very,

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<v Speaker 2>very far, but at the end of the day, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the best participant. The best participants are guys

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<v Speaker 2>that do this consistently. Honestly, I think that the Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker and the Jack cagleone selections are akin to the

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon Zach Levine selections with another contest because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not all stars, like I mean, Walker is. Walker's totally

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<v Speaker 2>an all Star. Kaglion could be an All Star at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine were very good

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<v Speaker 2>NBA players. They were not All Star players, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were the gift. They were the most gifted dunkers on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet, and we got to see them do what

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<v Speaker 2>they did best. And that is the opportunity that presents

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<v Speaker 2>right now with a guy like Kamon Arrow, with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Kaglion, and a guy like Walker, who again

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<v Speaker 2>is young, this leans into the youth movement. Kaglione is

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty three years old, Cavin Arrow's twenty three years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker just turned twenty four two months ago, and Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker is pacing the National League in RBIs at seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got an eight to ninety oh ps, he's hitting

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<v Speaker 2>two ninety four, and he's got twenty one home runs

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<v Speaker 2>to go along with that. He's a huge human being

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<v Speaker 2>that never really tapped into his true full potential until

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<v Speaker 2>his age twenty four season. You have guys on the

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<v Speaker 2>top one hundred prospects that are twenty four years old,

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<v Speaker 2>like Jordan Walker is the age of some top one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred prospects, and he is a tried and failed big leaguer.

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<v Speaker 2>And what Walker has done on non fast this year,

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<v Speaker 2>this is courtesy of our friends at Inside Edge, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, Peyton. He's slugging five to fifty on

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<v Speaker 2>non fastballs. It's a top three mark in the National League.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also killing the ball when it's in the strike zone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to slug over six hundred when it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the strike zone, which is top ten in Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a really fun element to the

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<v Speaker 2>Just Baseball Show, getting our Inside Edge stuff going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>What I love about Walker too, and with the sit

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<v Speaker 3>with the rules adjusting back to the outside of things,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter as much, but it still does matter,

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<v Speaker 3>is that he doesn't need to go like max effort

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<v Speaker 3>swing and you're seeing, like on the video right now

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<v Speaker 3>for those that are watching on YouTube, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these home runs and a lot of the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>Walker's been so successful in breaking balls this year is

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<v Speaker 3>that he wroes. I don't need to get my A

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<v Speaker 3>swing off all the time. I just need to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to hold my backside just long enough. And even

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a one arm swing, I am so strong

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<v Speaker 3>that I can flick a ball over the left field

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<v Speaker 3>wall as long as I keep myself in a position

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<v Speaker 3>and I keep my bat at the right angle to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to backspin it.

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<v Speaker 4>And and that's what we've seen with Walker.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of hitting it really hard straight into the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>he's able to maintain his pasture a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 3>maintain the batpath and like his B swing is still

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on a line out into left field

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<v Speaker 3>if he has the right angle.

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<v Speaker 4>And and that's what I think is gonna help him

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<v Speaker 4>in the derby.

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<v Speaker 3>And also this is another guy that moves the bat,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, as elite as anybody in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>as you alluded to, so having Walker in here with

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<v Speaker 3>it and to me, it's it's not the A plus

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<v Speaker 3>swings in the derby, Like you want to see those

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<v Speaker 3>guys get some of those off, but it's also as

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<v Speaker 3>you start to fatigue a little bit, need to the end,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to just be able to start to get

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<v Speaker 3>in that mode where it's just Homer, Homer, Homer, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know you can, you can let loose a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit here and there. That's what I think makes

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<v Speaker 3>it so fun is I think common Arrow is built

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<v Speaker 3>that way. I think Tags is built that way. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Walker is built that way. I we'll do like

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<v Speaker 3>predictions and stuff like that. As we get the whole field.

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<v Speaker 3>We still have three spots to go right that haven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what they're gonna be. I love how they

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<v Speaker 3>roll it out kind of slowly too right now. I

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<v Speaker 3>Tags is like the easy one to gravitate towards. But

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<v Speaker 3>he moves so much with his swing and his lower

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<v Speaker 3>half's very involved. I could see him kind of fatiguing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Walker so far. I didn't skin of my guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is what Yeah, Junior is impossible. It's chocky,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, but it is Jockey for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>The only one that I look at here and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I don't think you really have a shot

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<v Speaker 2>is Wilson Contrere's. And I'm kind of done doubting Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>Contreres because he's always proved me wrong. He was an

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<v Speaker 2>old rookie. He's on the other side of thirty. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking, you know what, the young guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get him. My eyes go to Rice pretty quickly, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, everything's coming up, Junior. But you can't

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<v Speaker 2>count anybody out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what makes it so fun. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 3>guess from who the final three could be?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Jazz Chisholm, Yeah, Redemption Arc Yeah, he had what

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<v Speaker 2>three he had three in his round? Was that last

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<v Speaker 2>year two years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>That was last year? I think that was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he said what he wasn't trying right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was something was some sort of brutal Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't. I forget what it was exactly, but not great.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we see yord On in this thing? I hope,

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<v Speaker 4>so that would be a really cool one. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>have like a wish list?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Tani is the obvious one, but like we saw,

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<v Speaker 3>he did it the one time and it didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>that well and it was at Cores, which is crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>And I just wonder if we'll just probably never see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there someone that like jumps out to you that

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<v Speaker 3>you would just would love to see in the setting

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe we haven't already.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel we're saving the Schwarber announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you would think so already said no, which stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we got Kerts in this.

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<v Speaker 4>He's kind of slumping. I guess I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one that jumps out Goodman in Colorado. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind seeing Hunter Goodman swing it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like Schwarber is a must in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Schwarber's a must. Schwarber's gonna be the last one announced.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And then that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's older, but Schwarber with the with the

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<v Speaker 3>bank behind him, like, yeah, that makes it. That might

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<v Speaker 3>set the clock back. He's six years younger. Just pure

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<v Speaker 3>adrenaline with the that's going to be electric and Harper

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<v Speaker 3>like do they both do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, could see that happening. The other one

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<v Speaker 2>that I keep on coming to his medals and I

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<v Speaker 2>love watching medals and swing a bad man. It would

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<v Speaker 2>be a ton of fun to watch medals and participate

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<v Speaker 2>in this derby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's he's he's he did it one other time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was great with it too, Like he's

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<v Speaker 3>another really fun one. He's just in another home run today.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a lot of good options, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be a really good Derby and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's in a good spot. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>curious to see how the rule adjustments go. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also curious the new broadcast. I'm excited for it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's going to be different, and different is good

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<v Speaker 3>because I've just been begging to see the ball flight

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<v Speaker 3>for like a while. Now the new format is going

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<v Speaker 3>to allow for that. But at new Formatflix, when it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the few MLB items they have this year,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been probably spending the last six months figuring out

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<v Speaker 3>how they can make the derby as perfect as possible

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<v Speaker 3>instead of it being one of the many line items

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<v Speaker 3>that ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>Had in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, And I thought I thought that their presentation

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<v Speaker 2>of Opening Day was special, like it was. It felt

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<v Speaker 2>like a huge, huge ballgame Yankees giants to open up

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<v Speaker 2>the season on Netflix. So excited to see what Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>can do with the home run Derby. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>with the ESPN, I was just begging for Bourman to

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<v Speaker 2>be back and just dropping random suburbs of Philadelphia and

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<v Speaker 2>we never got that. So it's time to push forward

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<v Speaker 2>with new delivery on Netflix, so we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to push to a different conversation before

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck do the Dodgers do in the outfield?

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<v Speaker 2>And you could be sitting here and saying, Jack, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you bringing this up? They're the best team in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>They just gave Kyle Tucker a four year deal. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>bringing it up because it's literally the most first world

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<v Speaker 2>problem we've seen in baseball in the last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 2>What they have cooking in the minor leagues with three

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<v Speaker 2>outfielders that are in the upper miners already is unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have more in the lower levels of the

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<v Speaker 2>minor leagues as well. Mike Serota is on a seventy

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<v Speaker 2>game on base streak, yep post Sway Depaula is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best hitters in Minor league baseball. Zayer Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Homard yesterday to get the Ops to nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred in Double A, and Eduardo Kintaro is a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>year old outfielder in High A right now. And Charles

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<v Speaker 2>Davila looks like one of the better back to ball

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<v Speaker 2>like well rounded hitters in the lower levels of the

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<v Speaker 2>minor leagues right now. They have five top seventy prospects

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<v Speaker 2>on just Baseball's Top one hundred in the outfield, and

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<v Speaker 2>Andy pa Hayes is blossomed into one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>center fielders in Major League baseball. Kyle Tucker is on

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<v Speaker 2>year one of a four year, sixty million dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>year contract and Taoscar Hernandez will be gone at seasons en.

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<v Speaker 2>That's abundantly clear. So they clear up one space, they

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<v Speaker 2>might need to clear up two. How do you see

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<v Speaker 2>it when you look into your crystal ball? The five

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<v Speaker 2>year plan for the La Dodgers in the outfield.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the most fascinating iving story.

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<v Speaker 3>The only reason why it's not being discussed a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more is because, like you mentioned, it's the first

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<v Speaker 3>world problem in the Dodgers. No one wants to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the next wave of Dodgers' talent.

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<v Speaker 4>After you know the high paid Dodgers talent, the parts.

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<v Speaker 3>But this group is unbelievable and the thing I won't

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<v Speaker 3>hear like And this is the last time I'll bring

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<v Speaker 3>it up because I just know that this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to get clipped out and then people are going to

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<v Speaker 3>respond to be like, oh, working over time to juice

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<v Speaker 3>up the Dodgers prospects again. The Tulsa Drillers outfield's the

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<v Speaker 3>best outfield of.

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<v Speaker 4>Minor league baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>You can ask any scout if you ever see a

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<v Speaker 3>scattered game, go ask them and what they think about

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<v Speaker 3>the the Tulsa Drillers outfielders, which is host way to

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<v Speaker 3>Paula who is a consensus top fifteen prospect in baseball. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Zayer Hope, who is on an absolute ridiculous stretch and

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<v Speaker 3>has been really really productive this year now, and then

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<v Speaker 3>of course Mike Sirota who's been on Mason seventy straight games.

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<v Speaker 3>You can play a high level center field and also

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<v Speaker 3>has plus power and is averaging, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, a ninety three to ninety four miles per average

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<v Speaker 4>ex of velocity.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not even including Kintaro, who can also play

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<v Speaker 3>a high level of center field, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>in his last fifty games at high A has a

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<v Speaker 3>one seventy one WRC plus it's in three fifty five

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<v Speaker 3>with one thousand and thirty two ops.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he gets to Charles Davil and so on

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<v Speaker 4>and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>My thing is, I get that there's been maybe some

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<v Speaker 3>confirmation biased in the past where people get excited about

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<v Speaker 3>it Dodgers prospect.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't pan out.

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<v Speaker 3>This ain't that this is extremely extremely rare prospect talent,

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<v Speaker 3>all almost concentrated on one level. Gintaro has been so

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<v Speaker 3>good he should be in Double A at this point

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<v Speaker 3>like he had a slow start, cold weather, and now

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<v Speaker 3>he's been one of the best hitters in the minor

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<v Speaker 3>leagues at a twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 4>He should be up at double. There's no room. There's

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<v Speaker 4>nowhere to put him.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you've got this trio up there. When I look

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<v Speaker 3>at to Rode, I'm like, Okay, he looks like you've

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<v Speaker 3>got Andy Paiees again in a way, And I know

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<v Speaker 3>the skill sets a little bit different when you go

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<v Speaker 3>to by tool, but in terms of the defensive upside,

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<v Speaker 3>like you could be something close to that. The power

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<v Speaker 3>is really shining through and everything beyond that. So Apollo

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<v Speaker 3>looks like one of the best pure hitters in the

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<v Speaker 3>minor leagues. It's not going to be a great defender,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's gotten to a point where he's passable in

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<v Speaker 3>the corner. He even gives you some sneaky value with

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<v Speaker 3>the legs. And then hope is power, power power. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the defense isn't going to be very good, but he

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<v Speaker 3>can run a little bit and he's got a great arm,

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll make it all work.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like you've got to move one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd think so, because Cantaro's behind and Avalance behind, like,

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<v Speaker 3>and this might be like peak value for us for

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<v Speaker 3>a Hope or a Sorota. I think you got to

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<v Speaker 3>hold on to that guy. And DePaulo sounds like, by

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Wu's reporting that he's untouchable for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So the last couple conversations about block Dodger prospects that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had, they've turned into really solid ballplayers at the

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<v Speaker 2>major league level. Miguel Vargas was kind of the first

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger prospect conversation that we had in the early stages

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<v Speaker 2>of the call up. As you put like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>positioned away and we started doing more and more prospect

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<v Speaker 2>stuff as just baseball. The first long conversation we had

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<v Speaker 2>about a Dodger prospect was Miguel Vargas. Vargas is an

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<v Speaker 2>All Star now with the White Sox. Michael Bush was

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<v Speaker 2>another one. It's like, how can you find this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>at matts? Michael Bush now is in All Star caliber

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<v Speaker 2>first baseman for the Chicago Cups. The next conversation we

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<v Speaker 2>had was Dalton Rushing. How do you find it? That's

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<v Speaker 2>for Dalton Rushing. Rushing has some interesting subplots so far

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<v Speaker 2>in the Dodger season. But Dalton Rushing is a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a baseball player. And now we're having this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about other guys, and we didn't even mention the middling

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>outfielders that they have. So I mentioned the three outfielders

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<v Speaker 2>that they're running out pretty much every day at the

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<v Speaker 2>major league level, right, Kyle Tucker and right, Taascar Hernandez

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<v Speaker 2>and left, and the all star Andy Pahes in centerfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex call is their fourth outfielder. Alex Calls a legit

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<v Speaker 2>good fourth outfielder in Major League baseball. Their Triple A

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<v Speaker 2>depth the thing keeping de Paula, Serota Hope, and mind

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<v Speaker 2>you Kendall George, who stole one hundred bases last year

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<v Speaker 2>in the minor leagues with Double A Tulsa. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>four dep outfield in Double A right now. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>none of them are in Oklahoma City is because the

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<v Speaker 2>outfield there is James Tibbs, It's Alec Thomas who they

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<v Speaker 2>picked up. It's Ryan Ward, and it's Jack Swinsky. Now

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<v Speaker 2>Siwinsky's not on the forty man like. They can move

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<v Speaker 2>off of Thomas and Sewinsky when they see fit. Hell,

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<v Speaker 2>they could probably get something for Ryan Ward, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are so backlocked in the outfield where it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>even figure out a way to like push the priority

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<v Speaker 2>guys up to Triple A Oklahoma City because you have

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<v Speaker 2>enough intrigue in the Triple A outfield right now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so convoluted and to your point, it almost feels like

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<v Speaker 2>you're obligated to swing big somewhere else on the roster

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<v Speaker 2>and use your outfield surplus to do it. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a world where like, Okay, Hope can lead a package,

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<v Speaker 2>but you want Alec Thomas too. You want TIBs where

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<v Speaker 2>like we can depart with three or four outfielders that

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<v Speaker 2>have legit intrigue for a front line, front line guy.

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<v Speaker 2>If Schoopl's getting moved, he's going to LA like that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my coming away with that. I understand that Atlanta

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.120
<v Speaker 2>could be in the mix. I understand that Milwaukee could

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>be in the mix. If schools getting moved because of

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 2>what LA has, he's going to Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and here's the funny thing is, because I think

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 3>that's how every other front office is looking at it.

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I think you probably have a situation where the Dodgers

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 3>are saying, well, we don't want to set the market again,

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and like this, especially this year, we don't want to

0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 3>set the market. There's not that many good rentals out there.

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Besides Schooble, we have the most prospects. We're the team

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that you know you're not going to when we try

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 3>to say, hey, we don't want to take on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Salary, you're not going to buy that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's one of those instances where I can see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Friedman and co. Just kind of playing KOI

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 3>because until the eleventh hour, because they don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>set this freaking market.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought the KDI will.

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<v Speaker 3>Report, and I think there's validity to it, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think this is obviously she's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best in the BIS. But I also think some of

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<v Speaker 3>it is probably the Dodgers like posturing a little bit,

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 3>saying that they want to trade high upside or they

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 3>want to trade some of their outfields chrip plus for

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 3>high upside minor league talents, like like a rare prospect

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 3>for prospect trade That.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds really fun.

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Those twos are really hard to come by because I

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 3>know more about my prospect and you know more about

0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 3>your prospect, and we're going to value our prospects.

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 4>I've talked to be about this.

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 3>And like, that's why they don't happen very much, because

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 3>you're wondering what they might know about their prospect that

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you don't know, and they're wondering the same thing about

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 3>your guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's just tougher, the information is not as.

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Ry and sometimes and sometimes it turns into a Nick

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>York and Quinn Priester trade where it looks incredibly lopsided

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a year later.

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<v Speaker 3>And to build on that, are you going to want

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 3>to go high upside prospect for high upside prospects swap

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 3>with the Dodgers who have the most scouts and the

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<v Speaker 3>most help and all these different I don't know if

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So they don't want to set the market, but they

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 3>also are going to be in a spot there well,

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone's gonna want to make that trade

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 3>with them, and it becomes a very fascinating situation. You

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 3>also don't want to put yourself in a spot though,

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 3>where the Dotters at the end of the day, they're

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 3>very calculated and just because they they can doesn't necessarily

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 3>mean they will. And that's the one part that's really

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 3>interesting because like, if it's Hope plus for a rental,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Schooble like, yeah, you could go do it, but maybe

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't fit what they, you know, see, value wise,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 3>and maybe it's just too out there.

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<v Speaker 4>The reality is they can do whatever they want to me.

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Hope, as much as I love him,

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<v Speaker 3>is the odd man out, because to Paula is just

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<v Speaker 3>I think, on a different level in terms of the

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>likelihood of transitioning into major league Baseball and having this

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>success because of the hit tool and then also the

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 3>power still just continuing to burgeon for him. And then

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 3>with Sarota, he's a center fielder and I know you

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.239
<v Speaker 3>have one, but there's just so much more value to that,

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and then you get the power and the speed as well.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>And it feel as like, if there's someone that's gonna go,

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be Hope. But even at that point, you

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 3>have Cantaro behind who looks like he's gonna be a

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 3>guy that can move through the minor leagues very quickly.

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 3>You laid out all the other kind of surrounding pieces

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and going into next year you presume, okay,

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 3>you move on from taoscar Does that just kind of

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 3>open the door right away for to Paula think witha

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 3>so you just let him go destroy trip away until

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 3>you know something happens. That's where it's just it becomes

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>really fascinating and you might have you cross the bridge

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>when he there, but you might have a huge like

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 3>blocked prospect problem.

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Again, and the Otani dilemma exists because of course you

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>want Shoho Tani on your roster. But the modern way

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 2>to use the DH spot is kind of is kind

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 2>of a revolving door of Okay, this outfielder doesn't really

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have in everyday spot or this first basement doesn't really

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.719
<v Speaker 2>have in everyday spot, and you can have four different

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>guys DH depending on the day. That's how again, ten

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>lineups around Major League Baseball are looking at the designated hitter.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers don't have that luxury, but they do have

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the luxury of having the greatest player to ever play

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>this game as their everyday DH moving forward. So it's

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>it's really really hard. And the thing that I guess

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking of at the big league level because

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Tucker's immovable. You're not gonna move Kyle Tucker. You just

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>gave him two hundred and forty million dollars over four years, yes,

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>clear cut. Let taoskar walk thank him for his services,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>and then Depaula comes up or Serota comes up, whichever

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>guy like really kicks down the door. He plays left field.

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>How long is Andy pai Haes going to be the

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 2>center fielder for the Dodgers? You think ten years or

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you think three more, and then he's off and running, like.

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Do they let someone else pay Andy Payes. It's kind

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>of similar to the Seeger conversation. They let somebody else

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>pay Corey Seeger and the Dodgers ran into a shortstop

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>issue for a while.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which which was a surprising part because I think

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 3>to your point, by the time that Payes would be

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 3>hitting free agency, you would have clarity on if Mike

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 3>sirod as a big leaguer or not, you know, if

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>it's all going to translate to the big leagues. Of course,

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 3>he looks by all indications, looks like a big leaguer.

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the guy that is running an average

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 3>egs of velosity of ninety four miles per hour and

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 3>is chasing it an eleven percent clip and his guy

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 3>on base seventy straight times.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Most way to Paula the same story.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like we're talking about a guy that has in

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>a one thousand OPS against fastballs, a nine to sixty

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 3>ops against breaking balls, and an eight hundred ops against

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 3>change ups and splitters, ninety two miles per hour average

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>its velocity as well for Depolo, who by the way,

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 3>just turned twenty one and still has more room for strength,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 3>it has already made a mechanical adjustment to improve against secondaries.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the way they line it up here

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>is you have the clear spot for Depola next year

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 3>or like at some point next year to get up

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 3>there and help them and on the minimum, and then

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 3>you have Saroda as like the air apparent if you

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 3>don't want to pay pies. If Soroda gets up there

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.719
<v Speaker 3>and you know there's always ways to find that Batchum

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>gets there up there and struggles and you don't.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Feel like you have that air apparent, but you also

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 4>have Cantaro behind.

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I think there's just a world where and I'm always

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>believer in taking the bird in hand, and after saying

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll see a big leaguer, established big league, established base

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 3>borderline all star. We got these young guys like that's

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 3>usually going to be a recipe for failure, especially for

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 3>a team that's perpetually in.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>World Series mode.

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 3>But when you've got the two irons in the fire

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 3>of Kintaro and Sooda, I think by the time that

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Pahes is getting ready for free agency, I think those

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 3>guys will prove to the Dodgers that they've gotten enough Internally.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool, it's it's a crappy conversation for twenty

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>nine other fan bases to hear. But if you love

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>baseball and you love watching dominance from young are or

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>from young outfielders, and you love watching kind of the

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>best churn through and how the best become the best,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the Dodger conversation is a unicorn of a conversation. It

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>just seems like they're running a different race at point.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 3>And this is you know, Eduardo Cantaro signed for three

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars as an international free agent.

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Apaulo was a bigger ticket guy.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, you know, you could have

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 3>signed with any team and anyone could have picked him up.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 4>So Rota was slipped too far in the draft.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Every team could have picked him almost three times, and

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 3>then the team that did pick them traded him for

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 3>that much.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks.

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's parody issues that you can, you know, lean

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>towards when it comes to the payer, But like this

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 3>conversation in totality has nothing to do with that. And

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>that's why, you know, the Dodgers are also the gold

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>standard on the other side of things too, And it's

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 3>fun to just watch the way that their their talent

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 3>makes its way to the major leagues. The thing that's

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>most fascinating to me is watching who they do identify

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>as that piece for them, because it is so hard

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to crack that big leagu roster and what they do

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>with the pieces that maybe they don't identify. Like if

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>they can pull off that prospect for prospect deal, what

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of picture, what kind of other player would zayre

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Hope would they be?

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Part of it?

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Is it two really interesting prospects? Is it a picture

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 3>in triple A? Is it a picture on high A

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 3>with crazy stuff?

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Like? That's where I love to see their process because

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 4>their process is as good as anybody's.

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>They moved Michael Bush and Yencio Monte for Zayre Hope

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and Jackson Ferris, and Ferris had the makings of a

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>top one hundred prospect for quite a while there. So,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean that tells you if they are going to

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>make a move with some of these unproven commodities but

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>exciting commodities, you better know who you're dealing with. And

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody talks about not trading with the Rays. If they're

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna make these tenC tiny moves, stop trying to trade

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>with the Dodgers. Sirwinowski's in that Dodger system now, right.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>He was like kind of an under the radar piece

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 2>of the puzzle last year and Fiducial made his way

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>to Tampa one.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hope was like a middle round pick, that

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>back half of the draft pick, and you know they

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>identified him. Arris was supposedly the headliner, right and he

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>struggled down triple A a little bit, but he's still twenty

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 3>two and it's the PCL.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 4>But with Hope, now they cash in on him.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like that's gonna be a fun trade web as

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>well to just continue to watch.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 4>But his values going up and up and again.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>The Cubs are happy with Bush, but the Dodgers, they

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>just opened up a whole new world of opportunities for

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>themselves with that trade. All right, we're gonna get to

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a notable player and club options that are coming up

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the twenty twenty sixth season. We've

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>already heard from Hampton Farms. Arm I kind of want

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you to guide us through like notable players that have

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>player options for next year club options for next year.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Before we get to the guys with player options, do

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>want to expand on the great thing that we're going

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to do on Tuesday night in Philadelphia at Other Half Brewing.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be so much fun. I unfortunately will

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>not be there, but you're gonna be there. Our Marine

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Layer guys are gonna be there. It's going to be interactive.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Peter Apple's going to be there, Peyton is going to

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>be there as well, Elijah too. So we got really

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of members of the Just Baseball Gang.

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be out there at o Other Half

0:30:59.000 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Brewing in Philly on two.

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of of We're gonna do an All

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Star watch party.

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have trivia going as well with prizes with

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>from our partners, some you know, sign memorabilia, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of really awesome stuff there. So very pumped about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Other Half brewing. Also, it looks like an unreal spot

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<v Speaker 3>they've got, I've heard. I was talking to Tim Kelly,

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<v Speaker 3>who's done great Philly stuff for us and it works

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<v Speaker 3>with On Pattinson, which was on the show, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>really really good beer.

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<v Speaker 4>The food there is great and it's an awesome spot.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're excited to do the Baseball Trivia giveaways there

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<v Speaker 3>while we're watching the game and then you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>hang out and be able to meet everybody. So the

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<v Speaker 3>all Star hot dog specials, all this other stuff that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be so much fun and I would love to hang

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<v Speaker 3>out with you there in Philly July fourteenth, from seven

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<v Speaker 3>pm to eleven pm for the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to get into your soccer bag right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Number one highly recommend watching Anthony Dubundo's stuff over at

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<v Speaker 2>the Road yea, And number two. Dubund shot Peter and

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<v Speaker 2>I a text and we were on the other half

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<v Speaker 2>brewing lineup. It's like just Baseball going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>their watch party next Tuesday during the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 2>So du Bundo if you want to talk World Cup,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Dubundo is going to be there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so much fun. All right, Let's get to the player

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<v Speaker 2>and the club options that are coming up at the

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<v Speaker 2>conclusion of the twenty twenty six season are canvas is

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>yours take us where you want to go. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to go guys with player options and then guys with

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<v Speaker 2>club options.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's start with the players, because I think that

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 3>the clubs are a little bit more cut and dry

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>for the most part this year. I want to start

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 3>with the one that like seems like a no brainer.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 3>But with the reports that just like and you can

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 3>take it with a grain of salt, but the general

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>reports that Bobashet could want to potentially opt out. I

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 3>just want to revisit this because we've talked about it briefly,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 3>but through a whole segment here. Let's just go through

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 3>the scenarios here, because the immediate reaction by everybody was, no,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>he's not how could you opt out of that deal?

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 3>It's you'd be opting out of two years, seventy nine

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 3>million dollars. Now he would be entering free agency again

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 3>at age twenty nine. But even if he sprints through

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 3>the finish line, which I think he will, he's sprinting

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>right now. With the way that Bishet has been playing,

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he necessarily increased his value by

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 3>getting a year older, right Like, I don't I don't

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>know if that's gonna do it.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I do think that in one side.

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Of it, though, you could argue that he has proven

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 3>capable of, you know, playing a solid third base, which

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I do think helps his case, and proven to just

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>be able to get by at short stoup when he

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 3>was there, which we already know, like he's not going

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>to be good there, but he's not going to be

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>a total total my ability like he's been through other stretches.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.959
<v Speaker 3>Bashett had a four hit game on June third, and

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>since then he is a one forty four WRC plus.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>That's more of who he is, right, So if he

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 3>keeps that going the rest of the way, Let's say

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 3>he finishes the year with a Let's let's just say,

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 3>for the sake of argument, he duplicates last season.

0:33:59.160 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 4>Would it behoove him?

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a opt out of two years seventy nine million.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 4>That's thirty nine point five million aav.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>I just don't see how The other reason why I

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 3>don't think you do this before I kick it to you, Jack, Yeah,

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 3>is I think there's an there's an opt out after

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven as well, So why not guarantee yourself another

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I think what have been like, I'm trying to make

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 3>sure I have the each year correct because it's it's

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 3>a little bit different. But why not guarantee yourself another

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 3>year at Let's say you stay for run number thirty

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>nine point five million AAV and then if you have

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 3>a huge year there, you can still enter free agency

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.959
<v Speaker 3>at age thirty, which is still relatively young.

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So two things jump out. Number one the possible

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 2>change and structure to the top market guys in terms

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>of contracts, how long they can sign, how big of money.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that looms large this offseason. So can

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you sneak in under the tag of possible changes? Who

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>knows what those changes are possibly going to look like.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that jumps out with Bashet is that

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>big two nine versus three to zero. Number thirty is

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a huge number in free agency if you're a thirty

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>year old free agent. It's like gas prices. You know,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason gas prices are always three seventy nine

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 2>a gallon that's had a three eighty a gallon seventy

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 2>nine cents looks a heck of a lot better than

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>eighty cents, And it's that number in the ten spot

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>there where. If he is a twenty nine year old

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 2>free agent, you wonder how much grace that buys him. Oh,

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>he's still so young. Oh he's just scratching the surface

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>of his peak, you know, always right in the middle

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>of his peak years versus thirty. All of a sudden,

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>you blink and he's thirty two. All of a sudden,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 2>you blink and he's thirty five. So you wonder if

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to cash in on that long term deal

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>and he feels like he can maximize his earning potential

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>if he is a twenty nine year old free agent,

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, the way he's played, the way this season

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>has gone from afar, I feel like it would be

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of silly to forfeit north of forty million dollars

0:35:58.560 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>for next year. If I was Bishet.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That is a good devil's advocate, though, right is, there

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>would be potential restrictions, which we don't know, depending on

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 3>how the CBA goes and then yeah, he would be

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>entering closer to age thirty one. I would have to

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 3>get the exact birthday, but he regardless, on the other

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>side of thirty. And it's funny. It sounds silly, but

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I've had agents tell me the same exact thing. Like

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, there's just this huge difference entering free

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 3>agency at twenty nine versus thirty thirty and a half.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Whatever it.

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe your favorite infomercial has has that cool vacuum at

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine ninety nine plus eight ninety nine shipping and handling.

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>It's just funny that the models still like it works

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 3>on the models too crazily.

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 4>But and I get it, I get it.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Every year really matters when you're paying, you're really the

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing is you're paying for the prime years. So

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 3>like when you are suffering through potentially aged thirty four

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 3>to thirty five thirty six season, having an extra prime

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 3>year there is is going to make all the difference

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>in the world.

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 4>So on that and that hanging over, let's assume.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>For the sake of argument, there's no restrictions and all

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 3>these crazy like those those crazy proposals, like it doesn't

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 3>end up happening, and free agents can sign for as

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>much as as humanly possible just for the sake of

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>consistency of what we've known. Because that's so unknown, how

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 3>can we even speak on it?

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Right? What do you think Bishett is most likely to do? Slash?

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, based on what we know, we were talking about

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>bo possibly getting two hundred million dollars from the Philadelphia

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Phillies this past offseason, Right, that was the number that

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about. Yeah, when he hits free agency

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>a year later on a year where he was more underwhelming,

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 2>and I understand that he's been hotter as of late,

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 2>and you laid it out for the first two months,

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>will torpedo a season long? Uh? You know number? You

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just take a peek at that and you think, is

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>someone going to give him two hundred million this offseason?

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't see a world. So if you're telling me

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that you're not going to get the long term two

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollar contract and you're leaving two for seventy

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>nine on the table, what are we doing?

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 4>The one Devil's advocate is that this free agent class.

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Is bad, bad, not good at all. Another big ticket

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 2>bat like, who are the other big ticket bats A Rosarena. Yeah,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of.

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.959
<v Speaker 4>It, and are you gonna want to pay that guy?

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Like jazzisom another one, thank you, Peyton like man, so

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Bashett would automatically become free agent one I think.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean for Bats, Yeah, and he'd be

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 3>free agent two overall, I I mean, I think it's

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Scoobale obviously, Peralta, Jazz, Michael King, Randy, Brandon Lau.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 4>That's the one.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess Devil's advocate. But the market's the market. If

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 3>no one's wanting to do it, no one's wanted to

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 3>do it. Yeah, However, in this in a world where

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 3>like you want to upgrade your team like significant, he

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>might be the only guy offensively that can really really

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 3>do that for you, depending on how you feel about

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 3>like Jazz and yeah and of course Randy, but that's

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a shorter term deal.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 4>So that that's where does that change anything for you?

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It changes minimal for me. But again, like there's just

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>so much unknown and I'm trying to get it out

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>of my head. But yeah, it changes minimal for me

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>because you know, he he could have been paid like

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 2>a top dog last year and he didn't he got

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>He got a one plus one plus one deal. So yeah, man,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 2>it really doesn't change too much for me. I understand

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that naturally the top that available will get more money

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>than they would if they were bat six in another class.

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, these organizations are

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>aware of who's available five years out, and it.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Gives him another year. He's quoite settled in New York.

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I think the team's going to be hopefully better offensively

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>next year, just in the fact that they'll have sodn

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Lindorm more consistently and maybe add some other pieces, and

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 3>they it can't be worse offensively, and he gives them

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 3>another year to show out and and try to earn

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 3>more money because again he can opt out again. If

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>he didn't have to opt out after twenty seven, I

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 3>think it'd be a little bit more interesting, like if

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 3>you had to wait if he was opting into two years.

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 3>But the fact that it's a one plus one plus one,

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I think this is I think this is fine, and ultimately,

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 3>like I think he opts in, it's just too much

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 3>money to pass on.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that makes perfect sense. Who you want to talk

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 2>about next?

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 4>Next one?

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 3>I think is is more obvious the other way Michael King,

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 3>and I kind of hope most of these guys opt outs.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Is free agent class stinks he's talked about. So he

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 3>declined the qualifying offer and then he signed with the

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Padre resigned with the Pages for three year seventy five million.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.720
<v Speaker 3>That's twenty five aav right, so great decision. It's four million.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 3>It was three million more than the qualifying offer. But

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 3>he also gets options, right, so it was guaranteed one

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 3>year twenty two million this year, and then he forfeits

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 3>two years if he opts out two years fifty.

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Three million, So a little bit backloaded.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 3>But if you opposide the serie answers, free agency at

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 3>thirty one is another one plus one plus one if

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>you he could also opt out in twenty seven, which

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 3>he would forfeit one year thirty million.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 4>I think with the way he's thrown and.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Still relatively young, like he's not on the right side

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 3>of thirty. But there was some questions with the injuries

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that last year, and I think just

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 3>with the way King has been seems like he's a

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.280
<v Speaker 3>he's an opt out guy.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, yeah, man, get your five year deal. Michael

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>King has been awesome. He's such a joy to watch

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:39.879
<v Speaker 2>do this man. Yeah, I mean he's already barreling towards

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy innings again, so absolutely opt out,

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and I think someone does give him a four or

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>five year deal. It's some big time money because that

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>would take him through his age thirty five season. It

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>seems like while pitchers don't get long term deals, they

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>do get deals that go way later into their thirties,

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>like there's minimal hesitance or there has been minimal hesitance

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>to pay a thirty seven year old pitcher because you

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of know what they are and you can see

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 2>metrically if someone's taking a downturn, and there is no

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>evidence of a downturn at Michael King.

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 3>The only evidence, I guess would be that he's his

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 3>strikeout rates down four percent, But like, I don't know

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 3>if that is like a major flag when he's preventing

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 3>runs at the same clip and has been just equally

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 3>as effective and the peripherals are kind of exactly what

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 3>they were last year too, So I think that would

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 3>be the only area if people were concerned about that.

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 3>But like if I were Michael k and in this

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 3>free agent class specifically too put me on the open market.

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna be okay, But that would be

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 3>the only thing is just the lack of case. But

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 3>and maybe there's maybe there's something if you dig a

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 3>little bit deeper into like the pitch data that teams

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 3>may not like.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>But I don't.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>The only other Devil's advocate there would be just that

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 3>he could also do the same thing again, like opt

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 3>out or opt in for one year and then have

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.919
<v Speaker 3>the last year to opt out of. But that would

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 3>be the thirty million years, so like do you want

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to opt in? Then you'd be kind of tempted to

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 3>opt in again. But in terms of like pitch velocity

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and everything like that, Vlow's the same. All of his

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 3>pitches are playing pretty well. I think he's he's an

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 3>opt out and go back to the market and squeeze

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 3>out a couple extra years because I think with his

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>injury history a little bit too, if he can just

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 3>show that he can throw one hundred and fifty one

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty innings, which he's on pace to throw

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 3>more than this year, I think teams will be happy

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 3>to pay him.

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so, Corbyn Burns is a no brainer.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 3>He's going to opt in. I mean setback as well.

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Don't have to worry about that.

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 4>To you, am I. He's going to opt in.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And if I were on the if I was working

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 3>for the Astros, I think I'd be on the hot

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 3>seat right now because I would have been pushing them

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 3>to make this deal too. And this deal, I don't

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 3>know if I would have loved this structure, but if

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 3>they told me this was the only way to get him,

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I I probably would have done it.

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 4>And it's not going great right now.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Obviously he's showing flashes seeing flash of what what I loved,

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 3>but emphasis on flashes. So he's this is a very

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 3>convoluted contract and we've talked about it a lot, and

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and to a degree, I think it's kind of poison pillish.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>But this is one where I just think with the

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 3>way that he has struggled. Sent for three years fifty

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.760
<v Speaker 3>four million, it's up to sixty three million with bonuses.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 4>There's two opt out windows.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Also the astros O posting fee every time he opts in,

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 3>that's going to increase in value. Yeah, I just feel

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 3>like for Ami, he's not going to forfeit. What is

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 3>what two years thirty six million? You're not giving him

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 3>that on the open market right now?

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 2>No one, no, hell no, my I and I love

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.479
<v Speaker 2>the Peyton flash numbers from inside edge. He's a swing

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and miss machine. Guys cannot barrel him up whatsoever. That

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 2>wrong way slider is really fun. But to your point,

0:44:55.800 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 2>it's so jeklin Heidi, and tetsuy Imai controls whether he

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>looks like a front line starter or like an unpitchable

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>starting pitcher. And when you're that volatile and it's not

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>hit or dependent, that's a terrifying guy to pay. So

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to your point, it is poison pilly. But also im

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I could opt in next year and it could look awesome.

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And then that's the saying like that's the beauty of

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the one plus one plus one and you have multiple

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>player opt outs. If you were to ask me like,

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 2>how does em go about the next three years, I

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>think it's pitched this year, opt in, throw again next

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>year in Houston, then opt out yep.

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's the goal.

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Like there was all the story about him getting acclimated

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 3>in that whole process. I think there's obviously just the

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 3>getting used to throwing the big league ball and just

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 3>getting honing in on the command. Remember, command was an

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 3>issue for him early in his in his MPB career.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Then he really saw things click and turn into one

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 3>of the best pitchers out there. And now there seems

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 3>to be this command barrier, and you hope that you

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 3>have the similar progression for the astros.

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, money's always a little.

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Bit with how they're working up against the CBT, but

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, like I think they're happy to

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 3>some of the other aspects so that it gets a

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 3>little bit more expensive with the posting fee and whatever, like,

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make it great, but for round numbers, if

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 3>you just say, like, hey, you're gonna get another shot

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>with am I here at one year twenty million dollars,

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Like I think they're they're fine with that.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially its effectively twenty nine and a half.

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Like Mike Burrows just got optioned, Like yeah, it's truly

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 3>is it is one year like twenty eight.

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is. And Arraghetty like the regression was going

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>to come at some point for Arraghetty. So it really

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 2>does seem like as weird as it sounds, because there

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 2>are some times where you might can't get out of

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the first inning. He is one of the safer starting

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 2>pitching options that Houston has right now.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 3>It's an expensive experiment, but the upside there I think

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is worth it. The Astros would rather have an expensive

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 3>short term experiment like this with all the other posting

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 3>fees and the incentives that they put into it, than

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, having to give him two hundred million over

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>however many years, which is what they were trying to

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 3>get at the beginning.

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 2>So he's gonnad the Lance and they've done the Lance

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 2>mcculors thing before, like they've had the stomach a long

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>term deal before.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 4>So I think that one's an opt in.

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 3>But at that after next year, who knows he could

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 3>throw well enough Torris an easy opt out and he

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:16.240
<v Speaker 3>would enter free agency at thirty.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, still it still.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Works for him.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 3>A couple other quick hitters, Luis Severino with the player option.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I think if if he declines it, he leaves two

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 3>years forty five million on the table. Him being hurt

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 3>this year really kind of throws a wrench. And what

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I think actually would have been a pretty fun conversation.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 3>But what if this guy just says, I really don't

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 3>want to throw in the SUT, and I really don't

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 3>want to throw you know, in presumably Vegas as well.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it would. It would take sever reno if

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you the last year in Sacramento.

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So it would just be the SUT.

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>It would just be the SUT. And I love that

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the SUT is catching on. It's good.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 3>What do you think it's a shoulder issue. I probably

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 3>spooks teams enough. He'd probably take a one year.

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I think he takes his cash. I think he takes

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 2>the one year, twenty two million dollar thing. And you know,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Sevy is still like if he opts in, he hits

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 2>the open market at thirty four years old compared to

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty three years old, that's that's like kind of pennies.

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it matters much. I think he

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just takes his guaranteed twenty two million dollars because if

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 2>he were to come off a bad year and an

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>injury year and hit the open market, he's getting what

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>one year for seven I.

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Think more a little bit more, but ten twelve, thirteen, Yeah,

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 3>like pocket That was kind of my question because yeah,

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>it's one year, twenty two million left, So like that's

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 3>what you would be forfeiting if he opted out. I

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 3>assume he's not going to throw again this year. Have

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 3>they said, I don't think so. If he doesn't throw

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 3>again this year, like, yeah, it's tough because he was

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 3>actually throwing them all pretty decently this year. Yeah, so

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 3>that last one actually, and then we'll just quick hit

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 3>on two other obvious ones.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 4>But this one Quay Holmes.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 3>So if he declines his option, he's forfeiting one year,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 3>twelve million.

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Let's operate in the worst case scenario because if he

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 3>comes back in throws, which he's going to, but if

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>he comes back and throws, well, it's even more of

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 3>an o brain. Let's say he comes back and throws

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of poorly. I still think he's a no brainer.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Decline that and go hit free agency.

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 2>He has built up the capitol to the point where

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 2>he is absolutely opting out of this. He's a free agent.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>If Holmes throws, well, he's a trade candidate and he

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a free agent and he's going

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to get himself a nice three year contract. I think

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 2>this guy has allowed a slug under three hundred this year.

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the best marks in Major League Baseball.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 2>He's also got a two four ERA so far this year.

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>A opponents are opsing shy of six hundred against him. Again,

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 2>it's all courtesy of inside edge. When Holmes has been

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 2>on the field, he's been gross. We know he's ground

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>balls at will, the bedrock of if all goes to shit.

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 2>He's a really good reliever. Like you give that guy

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 2>another three year deal in a heartbeat, I think.

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:13.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's it's a no brainer. I think.

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 3>And for him, like in this class, pretty good situation

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 3>for him to be able to, you know, I think,

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 3>get a decent contract. Drew Rasmussen's club options hilarious, no

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.439
<v Speaker 3>brainer pick up, like they're gonna what a deal. Same

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 3>with Yondi Dias. Like those are two of the most

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 3>obvious club option pickups ever. Welcome to Raise Baseball. I

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 3>have a fun one for you. Would you rather pick

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 3>up your option for twenty million on Luis Robert Jr.

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Or pick up an option for twenty one million for

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Sandy al Contra. I'm not answering, I know, I know,

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 3>but that was rhetorical because the obvious answer, correct is

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>al Cabayo.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Sandy's been one of the you know, just most consistent

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 3>in terms of innings, workload, whatever. Teams would pay that

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 3>even if he was struggling a little bit more than

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.919
<v Speaker 3>he is, and he's been really solid the last couple

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 3>of times out. Those innings that he's able to give

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 3>you are so huge. I gave you the rhetorical because

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 3>police Roberts getting that contract declined. And what I want,

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 3>what I want to think about now is what does

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 3>that guy get on the open market?

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 4>What does a Luise Robert open market deal look like?

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 2>One year? Nine million dollars? Who's the sucking seven? No,

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, probably the Angels, Yeah, no idea.

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 4>So that's it. That was all I had.

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I just thought, real quick, you think Sandy leads baseball

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and innings pitch this year? It seems like he's barreling

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 2>towards it. Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I think it's

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna be him or Sanchez.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 3>We'll look at the totals right now. Sanchez at one

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 3>twenty and a third. Sandy's at one hundred and twenty

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 3>three and two thirds. You know why, I think Sandy

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 3>will and Christopher Sanchez is built like this too. So

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 3>it's one of these two guys. Even when they aren't good,

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 3>like it's just you just you don't have it that day, right,

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Like Sandy's gonna give you seven, Christopher's will give you seven.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.439
<v Speaker 3>It might be five earned they didn't have it that day.

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 3>They're still not making the bullpen wear anything.

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything. It's such a joy to watch him go

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 2>to work constantly and like wearing that where it's like no, no, no,

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Friday is my game. I'm not gonna make anyone piece

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 2>this together. It's my game. And Sanchez that's him too.

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And the good news for Sandy and Sanchez is both

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 2>those guys are awesome when they're at the top of

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>their game, and they're at the top of their game often.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, one year nine for Robert, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one year for eight and that it'll be an angel.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll say see you now. I don't really have anything

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<v Speaker 2>else on the agenda.

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<v Speaker 4>What you got, That's all I got. I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 4>all story.

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<v Speaker 3>We again hope to see you guys at other half brewing,

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<v Speaker 3>and we got some fun stuff on the call up

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<v Speaker 3>putting out a lot of stuff is the futures game.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna be stacking.

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<v Speaker 3>Up a lot of interviews on there with some of

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<v Speaker 3>the top prospects in baseball, So keep an eye out

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<v Speaker 3>for that, and yeah, looking forward to the coverage draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Check out our draft stream as well. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>live that. This is gonna be our best one yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been spending hours with Colby setting up like that,

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<v Speaker 3>the tech behind it. I've ordered contraptions i've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the HDMI too, Mini HDM I to whatever. This

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be a lot of fun. You got myself,

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Jennings and Peter Jack might be coming into help

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<v Speaker 3>out to hop in and talk with us for a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit too. We got a lot of b roll

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<v Speaker 3>podcast piece ready to go production wise, that's gonna we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna kill it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm really excited about that podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>P's been grinding to set everything up on the back

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<v Speaker 3>end too, and I think you guys are really gonna

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy this draft stream, so keeping out for that. Will

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<v Speaker 3>be live during the draft on our YouTube, and we'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to see as many people in there as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go, dude. We will talk to you guys to

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<v Speaker 2>tie a bow on the week tomorrow. Thanks everybody,