1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing. The trade deadline has come and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: gone and we have the full scope of all the 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: moves around the NFL. The Ravens made a move bringing 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: in outside linebacker Draymont Jones, trading with the Tennessee Titans. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: The Ravens gave up a conditional fifth round pick in 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: next year's draft. According to reports, that becomes a fourth 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: round pick if Draymont gets two sacks and the Ravens 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: That sounds good to me. Sign me up for that. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: So that was the Ravens move of the deadline. In 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: addition to the other trade deadline moves they made, they 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: trade JayR Alexander to the Philadelphia Eagles in a Day 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: three pick swap in which they improved their pick. 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: They also traded for a. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Low going that one's already worked out pretty darn well, 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: trading Dafeoway to the Los Angeles Chargers for Gilman and 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: a Day three pickswap. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: So three moves for the Ravens at the deadline. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: The most recent Draymont Jones, bringing in the pass rusher 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: from Tennessee. 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: Garrett, what was your reaction to that move. 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: It's hard not to like it. The Ravens had a need. 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: He fits the right player, right price, attitude and mantra, 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: and he's a player who I think fit fits the 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: team in a lot of ways. Like I look at 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: it as it's not just depth, which is a component 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: of this Ravens. They only were playing with three outside linebackers, 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: true outside linebackers, So you needed to add somebody at 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: that position. That just was not a tenable situation for 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: the rest of the way. You needed to add another 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: piece there. Okay, so you achieved that with Draymond Jones. 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: The other piece of it, too, is it's not just 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: like he's a depth piece. He's somebody who was playing 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: seventy percent of the snaps in Tennessee and he's playing 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: some of the best football of his career over the 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: last month. In the last four games, he has four 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: and a half sacks and nine quarterback pressures. That is 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: exactly what the Ravens need on this defense. They need 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: somebody who can come in and get after the quarterback 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: and help elevate this pass rush as a whole. That's 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: exactly what he's been doing for Tennessee at a high level. 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 3: And so you have a veteran player that's a tough 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: guy who can start. He can play a ton of snaps, 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: he can get after the quarterback, he can provide depth. 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: All of those things like those are all things that 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: the Ravens needed, and they get it in exchange for 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: a fifth or fourth round pick, depending on how he 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: performs and the team performs the rest of the way. 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a move that makes a lot of 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: sense and it just made this team better. 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I think certainly brings a hot hand. As you mentioned, 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: four and a half sacks in his last four games. 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: This is a guy that's playing very well. He had 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: a monster game against the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunday. 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: The Ravens had off that day. If John Harball were 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: watching his brother and hit the Chargers play, he was like, yeah, give. 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Me that guy, bring him here. I like that dude. 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Seven total pressures for him, according to Pro Football Focus 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: in that game, it wasn't just the one and a 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: half sacks. He was affecting the quarterback, hurries, hits, and so, yeah, 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens needed somebody that could absorb snaps for sure, 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and he steps in and he's the Ravens leading sack guy. 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: He's got the most saxophone team right now, he has 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the most pressures on the team and ranks fiftieth in 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: the league in total pressures according to Pro Football Focus 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: among outside linebackers. And so you know, this wasn't the 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: biggest splash move for the Ravens, but I think to 70 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: your point, right player, right price, I think it's a 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: good value for what the Ravens gave up. 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I look at it. 73 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: We talked about this in the podcast before the trade deadline, 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: and sometimes everyone focuses on the big name guys who 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: could be available, and we'll talk about. 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: Some of those players. And there was some movement around 77 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: the NFL. 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Pretty kind of a blockbuster day as a relate to 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: the trade deadline, think one of the New Yer Jets. 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: One of the biggest days in trade deadline history. 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a lot of moves this year, 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: and naturally a lot of the focus and attention goes 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: on those big name guys. I totally get that, but 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: I just think that sometimes it's these players who aren't 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: necessarily the biggest name, like the Ravens do such a 86 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: great job of finding guys who are maybe a little 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: bit under the radar that they can get for a 88 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: good value. You don't have to sell the future in 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: order to get them, and they can also come in 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 3: and make a big impact. Like using the tradevious White 91 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: example from last season, he was a guy that came 92 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: in and ended up playing really important snaps and played 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: good football down stretch for this team. And Draymond Jones 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: actually went for a little higher of a pick that 95 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: was a seventh round pick I believe last year on 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: Tredevius White, but so Draymond Jones is higher than that. 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: But I just think like you get you part ways 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: with a Day three pick, and you get somebody who 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: has been playing a ton of football for the Titans 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: and can provide an immediate impact for your team. Like 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: it's hard to find immediate impact players with Day three 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: picks at this point in the game, and I think 103 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: the Ravens did that with Draymond Jews. 104 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: And a lot of teams are out there looking for 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: pass rushers. 106 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 4: So I wanted a premier position, Yeah. 107 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Right, exactly, So you're gonna have to outbid the others 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and the Ravens were aggressive and getting that deal done. 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: They were kind of one of the first moves before 110 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: the big wave hit of a lot of other moves 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: around the league. So I think Eric Tokasa was aggressive 112 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: and getting that done on Monday evening really is when 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: the reports first came out. Like we said, the Ravens 114 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: had to make a move. They have eleven sackses here. 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Only one team that Jacksonville Jaguars has fewer, so they 116 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: had to upgrade the pass rush because the secondary is 117 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: playing a lot better with the Lohi Gilman that edition. 118 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: I think that things have really turned around back there, 119 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: and they've done a good job with the scheme coming 120 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: out of the by and scheming up more pressure. But 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: you still have to have guys, and as you said, 122 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: three players was not enough there. You needed to add 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: somebody at that position. So I thought it was a 124 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: good move. I think it also adds more versatility because 125 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Draymond Jones is a player that you go back three 126 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: years ago. He was playing the majority of his snaps 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: and defensive tackle in Seattle, and so this is a 128 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: player maybe can you use him on as an intier 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: rusher and sub packages third and long down and distance 130 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: to kind of help negate the loss of nond Matabika 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: and give you another pass. 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Rusher on the field. 133 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: Possibly. He's a pretty big, physical guy. I like the 134 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: physicality that he plays with on tape. He also has 135 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: polished pass rush moves. You see an inside spin move 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that's worked for him in recent games. He works well 137 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: with stunts, which the Ravens like to do a lot of. 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Van Noy is very good on stunts. I can 139 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: see those two guys working in tandem and adding another 140 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: dimension to the Ravens pass rush. So I think he's 141 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: also a good scheme fit for Baltimore. 142 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 143 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: The versatility I think is important because he can play 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: on the left side or the right side of this defense. 145 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: He can hold up against the run. He's not just 146 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: a pass rusher that okay, just go get the quarterback. 147 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: He's a true all around player who can stuff the 148 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: run as set the edge. And so you look at 149 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: this pass run this outside linebacker group, it's Kyle van Noy, 150 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: Mike Green, and David Dajabo. And with Green and kvn 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: getting the majority of those snaps, you add Draymond Jones 152 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: to the equation. I think he can take some of 153 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: the snap count away from both of those guys and 154 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: help and you can help keep them fresh. 155 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: I think the majority he mostly takes snaps away from 156 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: David Dajabo. Well, I definitely think it's going to be 157 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the three of them are going to be. Mike Green's 158 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: still going to see a lot of snaps, so is 159 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy. But yes, he takes. 160 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: Reduces it a little bit and helps us keep everybody fresh. 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: So there's not such a big burden on both of 162 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: those guys. I mean, those guys were handling a heavy workload. Again, 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: only three outside linebackers is rare, and so you you 164 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: lighten the load a little bit on the two of them, 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: and then you add the versatility piece. Could there be 166 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: situations where all three of them are on the field 167 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: Mike Green, Draymond Jones and Kyle van Noy Potentially, I 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: think that possibility exists in third and long situations. So 169 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: I like it for all those reasons. I just think 170 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: that it's a move that the the Ravens needed to 171 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: do something, as you mentioned, I think, to upgrade this 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: pass rush group, and they've done it, and that's what 173 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: that's that's an important move for this team to have 174 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: all the pieces they need down the stretch. 175 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: It's not just a flash in the pan. Also, where 176 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: he has four and a half sacks and four games, 177 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: this is a player that over his career has had 178 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: at least three and a half sacks every season. He 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: had six and a half sacks twice over his career, 180 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: and so he's on pace for a career high in 181 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: sacks this season. So it has proven pass rush productivity. 182 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Has he ever exploded? No, but this is a talented 183 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: player who's played high level, solid football for years in 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: this league and just adds value to the He's a 185 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: former Bucke third round pick, former Buckeye. 186 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Come on, give us a full scouting report. Man. 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: You know what I like the most about him. He's 188 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: an Ohio guy. 189 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: He's a buck guy's he went. 190 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: To Ohio State, played he grew up in Cleveland, played 191 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: high school football at Saint Ignatius. It's a powerhouse high 192 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: school in Cleveland, Ohio, went to Ohio State, was a 193 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: highly recruited guy there, and then ends up being a 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: third round pick and productive player throughout his throughout his 195 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: pro career. So the more Ohio guys you can get 196 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: in the building, the better. That's the key here, and 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: adding Draymond Jones to that list is definitely a good thing. 198 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: John Harwall definitely agrees with that. 199 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: I agree, Oz Ozzy. He played in Cleveland, so there's 200 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: a lot of a high people around. 201 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Here, more New England guys. But yeah, it'll be fun 202 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: for him to go back to Cleveland. You'll play against 203 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown as a Raven That's a that'll be 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: a big time game. 205 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: So I think overall good move. 206 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Now, before the trade deadline, you know, I predicted that 207 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: we were going to get an outside linebacker. Yeah, now, 208 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: you you were banging the drum for a defensive lineman 209 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: the Raves. 210 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: The same thing as you. 211 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: You were talking all about de tackle. Who needs an 212 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. We're going to get a detackle, That's all 213 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: you were saying. Ravens did not end up getting a 214 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. So were you surprised about that? What are 215 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: your feelings about that? 216 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: I mean, in all honesty, I thought that there was 217 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: potential that the Ravens could look in that market. Now, 218 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Quinn Williams was the biggest one on the market and 219 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: he ends up going to the Dallas Cowboys In a 220 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: massive trade. The Cowboys send a first round pick, a 221 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: second round pick, and a defensive lineman. 222 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: Back to the Jets round pick. 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part. 224 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: Of the deal. So it's a mega trade. 225 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: I know that there are plenty of people that are 226 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: dreaming about the possibility of Quinn Williams coming to Baltimore. 227 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: I think probably thirty one fan bases were excited about 228 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: the idea. 229 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: There when the reports came out, you know, the Jets 230 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: traded Sauce Gardener, and then the reports kept coming out 231 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: that they were not done dealing, that they were going 232 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: to deal some other stars. 233 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: I won't lie. 234 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I let myself dream for a second. Let myself dream 235 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: didn't come to fruition. 236 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like that's a huge haul. 237 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: And as we discussed, like what's what's the top of 238 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: the market that the Ravens are willing to span it, 239 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't really think the Ravens are in the business 240 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: of parting ways with first round picks now. And I was, 241 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: especially when it comes down to multiple first second round picks, 242 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: like that's just not the way that this team does business. 243 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: I was tempted when the reports were that the Jets 244 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: asking uh price had come down and if we're talking 245 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: a second round pick for Quinnen was sign me up first. 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: This second versus left, and that as eager to jump. 247 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: It's like the price comes down. It was two first 248 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: round picks, now it's the first and a second. 249 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: You knew me. 250 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: I like, I'm a bargain. I love a bargain. 251 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: So like to your point, like, was I surprised that 252 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: the Ravens didn't at a defensive lineman, I don't know 253 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: that I was surprised. 254 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: I think that. 255 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: I think that they have pieces that are playing like 256 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: John Jenkins, as I've said before, like he's been just 257 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: such a great fine for this team and he's playing 258 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: some really good football. I think that if you replacing 259 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: nondimatabik Is is a near impossible task because of all 260 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: the things that he does, and he's such an important 261 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: player for this team. So I thought if there was 262 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: any possibility of bringing someone in to help ease that 263 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: is that burden on the guys who are all to hear, 264 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: the Ravens would explore it. But I didn't think it 265 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: was an absolute necessity. I think the Ravens have a 266 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: good defensive front, especially with Travis Jones healthy again. 267 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and playing. 268 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: Play high level play very well in Miami. 269 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like getting him healthy has been has been significant 270 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: for this defensive front. 271 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 272 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: The question is have the Ravens done enough to address 273 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: their front seven, as we talked about near the bottom 274 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: of the league in sacks. The other piece of this 275 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: puzzle is Carl Lawson, who head coach Sean Harwell said 276 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: is probably ready to get his first game action as 277 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: a Raven. He's been on the practice squad the past 278 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. So when you talk about Draymond Jones and 279 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, don't forget him that he could be elevated 280 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: to this game day roster. Have the Ravens done enough 281 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: to address what was causing them problems? 282 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Carl Lawson on the practice squad. He 283 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: had five sacks last year in Dallas twenty two, he 284 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: had seven for the Jets. Then spent the first four 285 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: seasons of his year of his career at Cincinnati where 286 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 3: he was a really productive player. So I liked him 287 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: when we had a chance to talk with him soon 288 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: after he signed. I think that he was fired up 289 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: about the the idea of being back in the AFC 290 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: North and knows this division and just feels like it's 291 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: a good fit for him. And so that's like that 292 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: when you look at him along with Jones, I think 293 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: that this pass rush and this outside linebacker group is 294 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: is gonna be much better than it was down the stretch. 295 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: I just think that, like those two, So the simple 296 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: answer to your question, haven't done enough? 297 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: I think they have. 298 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: I think that like with loss In and Draymont Jones, 299 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: neither of those guys are gonna are gonna be like 300 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: monster sack producers. But I think that they're good players 301 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: who can come up with critical sacks and pass rush, 302 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: critical pass rush in big moments. 303 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: So I think, yes, yeah, I think that I think 304 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: that it's going to become a fourth round pick for 305 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Draymond James, say that much. Two sacks and nine games, 306 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: I think that he has a good chance of clearing 307 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: that bar. And Carl Awson, yeah, I think he can 308 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: offer something. And so the Ravens. 309 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Carl Awston had had he had five sacks last season 310 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. 311 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: Look, every this is it's the same every single March 312 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: with fans across the league, with Ravens fans, with all fans, 313 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: and at the trade deadline, everybody wants a big splash move. 314 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Everybody wants their team to go out there and get it. 315 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: And then you see the Indianapolis Colts and they trade 316 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: two first round picks for Sauce Gardner and you're like. 317 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: Man, look at them, they're going all in. Why don't 318 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: we go all in. 319 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: That's just the knee jerk reaction of every fan base 320 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: of their team if they're in the mix, basically, and 321 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens have never operated that way. 322 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: They just they just don't. Now. 323 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: They trade a second round pick for Roquan Smith because 324 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: they felt like he was going to be a building 325 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: block for years to come and has been. But they 326 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: are not in the business of give them away multiple 327 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: first round picks and just pushing all your chips since 328 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the center table and saying we're going all in this year. 329 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: They have set it time and time again that they 330 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: never want to see that Super Bowl window closed. They 331 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: want to keep that thing open for as long as possible. 332 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: And they're in a draft and developed business. That's just 333 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: how the Ravens have done business. And you can you 334 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: can have your take issue with that, but the track 335 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: record of continued success is pretty darn impressive. Like there 336 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of other franchisees that wish they were 337 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: in the Ravens shoes and had this long of a 338 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: track record of this many bites at the apple of 339 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: always being buyers at the trade deadline and being in 340 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: the hunt and making the playoffs. Now you can always 341 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: say like, hey, well they haven't won a super Bowl 342 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: since twenty twelve, but I just don't know that like 343 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: one of those moves would have guaranteed that they would have. 344 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing too that you got to remember, 345 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: of course, is you have a quarterback on your contract. 346 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: And so when you have your quarterback and Lamar Jackson 347 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: under contract, that that only increases the importance of the 348 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: draft because you have to you have to get players 349 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: that are playing on that rookie contract or we're gonna 350 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: make big impacts. 351 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Tell you, Daniel Jones ain't making Lamar Jackson money. I 352 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: can tell you that much. The culture in a different situation. 353 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: And a lot of times when you look at these teams, 354 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: that ends up being the case, not one hundred percent 355 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: of the time, but a lot of times that is 356 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: the case. Whereas you have teams that are trying to 357 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: maximize a quarterback on the rookie contract. So I think 358 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: when you look at what the Ravens have been able 359 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: to get in these drafts, like it's really important both 360 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: from a draft pick compensation standpoint, Like think of Nate Wiggins, 361 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: who's in his second season as the first round pick. 362 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Like where would this team be without Nate Wiggins? And 363 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: so there's what you get from the player with the 364 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: first round pick, But then there's also the salary that 365 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: comes alongside with it. And so a guy like Sauce 366 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Gardner who's making, you know, a boatload of money, Quinn 367 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Williams making a lot of money, it's kind of twofold 368 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: that you have to take into account there. So in 369 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: my mind, like there's. 370 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: It's not only the draft pick compensation that you're giving up, 371 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: but who can you not re sign. The Ravens have 372 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are in line for contract extensions. 373 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Who are they not going to be able to do 374 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: because they traded for one of those guys for example. 375 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Right, That's all part of the calculation that you have 376 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: to consider. And it only becomes more important to look 377 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: at that when you have a quarterback who is who 378 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: has signed long term to a big contract. So all 379 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: of that is part of the consideration. But but but 380 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 3: to be honest, like, I think that what the Ravens 381 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: were able to do in getting a veteran defensive front 382 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: guy and a veteran pass rusher and Draymond Jones. 383 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: Like plus a Lowi Gilman. 384 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Let's not forget about a Loi Yillman, because that was 385 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: a big that was a big move player for player. 386 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: You don't see that a lot, and it's paid big dividends. 387 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: It's that has been a very good trade. I think 388 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: that this defense is just for both sides. Let's be honest, 389 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: It's always been good for the Chargers. 390 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 4: Sal Yeah, that's that seems like it's trade that. 391 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: Both sides ended up winning. Yeah, everyone's happy with that one. 392 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that, like this defense is better 393 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: today than it was yesterday with Drawid Jones in the mix. Absolutely, 394 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: and I think it's only going to continue the progression 395 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: that we've seen since the arrival of Olouis Gillman. And 396 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: so you add Gilman, you add Jones, you add Carl 397 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Lawson potentially being activated from the practice squad, all those 398 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: things are going to help this team. And I feel 399 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: good about this defense down the stretch. I think the 400 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: Ravens do too. 401 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: The last takeaway from me is with another move that 402 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens didn't make. Fans talked about offensive line. Could 403 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: they upgrade it either of the guard positions. The Ravens 404 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: did not. As I said, I expected the Ravens to 405 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: continue to roll with this offensive line. I think Andrew 406 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: Vorhees is ascending. They still believe Daniel Ale is another 407 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: player that continues to grow and improve, and so they're 408 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna ride with this line. And I think that there's 409 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: certainly merit to that. 410 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that continuity and familiarity along the offensive 411 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: line has value and importance, and so that's part of 412 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: the consideration there. And this this line has primarily been 413 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: intact for the last season and a half. The only 414 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: difference has been at left guard, where Pat McCarey had 415 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: that role. Then he of course went to Jacksonville in 416 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 3: free agency for he stepped in. I think it was 417 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: a little bit rocky for him early on in this 418 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: season as he was getting the first significant sustained reps 419 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: for him after he started early last season but then 420 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: got hurt. I think that he has really settled in 421 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: there over the past few games, and he's playing at 422 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: a high level. So this has been the line that 423 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: the Ravens have been rolling with, and I think that 424 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna I think it can be This line can 425 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: be good enough, and they've shown that last year was 426 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: a historically good offense. I think that this offense still 427 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: is going to put up a ton of points to 428 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: be one of the best in the league in the 429 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: second half of the season. 430 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Like that's what I think. 431 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: With Lamar Jackson at quarterback, for this offense and the 432 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: pieces that they have in place, I expect the Ravens 433 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: have one of the best offenses in the NFL. And 434 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: I think there's been nothing that's to me says that 435 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: that can't be the case. That and the line is 436 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: going to be a big piece of that equation. 437 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Yep. 438 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're going to take a break. 439 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to give our reaction 440 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: to other big moves around the league as well as 441 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: in the AFC North. 442 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to the last podcast we were coming to 443 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: you from the c K Studio. We want to mention 444 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: our partners with Draft King Sportsbook. There an official sports 445 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings sports book. 446 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: The crown is yours, So before we dive into the 447 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: conversation about what else happened around the league, also want 448 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: to mention an event we had Monday night at Mt. 449 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: Bak Stadium, which was a Purple Evening. This is a 450 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: big event we have every year for our Lady Ravens fans, 451 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: and this thing sells out every single season. It has 452 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: for years. It's a great time. We have Ravens legends 453 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: and attendance, we have current players who are there, had 454 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 3: a chance for the fans to be on the field 455 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: last night, just kind of running some drills and having 456 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: fun down there. So just a great event in general, 457 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: and it's fun to see this thing grow in. Our 458 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: marketing group does a phenomenal job of putting this event 459 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: on and I think anyone that's been there's a lot 460 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: of repeat customers at this event because everyone who goes 461 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: has a great time. And again, this thing sells out 462 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: quickly every single season. So go ahead and mark your 463 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: calliders when this thing becomes available and take us her 464 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: out again next year. Make sure you jump on those 465 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: because everyone wants to be there at a Purple Evening. 466 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: Nearly half of. 467 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Our Ravens fans are females and that number is growing, 468 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: so very very awesome. We love our female Ravens fans. 469 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: This event's been going on for eighteen years. 470 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: My wife's going a bunch of times. 471 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, she knows more about a Purple Evening than she 472 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: does about the team. I mean, hey, she doesn't listen 473 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: to this podcast. 474 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: Being a Ravens fan is really just a means to 475 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: an end to get to the Purple evning. 476 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: Yes, she loves going to a Purple Evening. It's a 477 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: really good time. So highly recommend that. All Right, so 478 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: we already talked about Quinnin Williams and Sauce Gardner. Big 479 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: shake up for the New York Jets, who shipped out 480 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: two of their defensive cornerstone pieces young players. You don't 481 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: often see players in their prime, even just entering their 482 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: prime get dealt at the trade deadline, so shocking moves. 483 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: They're in total rebuild mode under Aaron Glenn out in 484 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: New York. 485 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: So that was very interesting. 486 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: But to me, what I want to point to is 487 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: a lack of moves for the Ravens' premiere arrival in 488 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: the AFC North. The Pittsburgh Steelers. There's a lot of 489 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: talk about how the Steelers. Everybody almost assumed, oh, yeah, 490 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna go out and they're gonna get a wide receiver. 491 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, they need to get somebody to pair with 492 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. That's gonna happen. Well, didn't really happen. Saw 493 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: two wide receiver trades, pretty big names. Rashid Shaid goes 494 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks and Jacobe Myers to the Jacksonville Jags. 495 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: I certainly thought that the Steelers could could take a 496 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: swing at wide receiver in the fact that they only 497 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: signed the Simon Marquez Valdez Scantling MVS to their practice squad. 498 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: That was their move. Yeah, so quite honestly, I'm happy 499 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 2: that they didn't go and get a wide receiver. 500 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever these moves like these more quee trades are 501 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: happening around the league, like I love it when to 502 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: the NFC, like, okay, they're trading They're trading Quinn Williams 503 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: to the Cowboys. 504 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: Perfect, Yeah, that's exactly what the. 505 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: J still well, honestly, that is one of the takeaways 506 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: for me was that the Ravens play the Jets in 507 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: a few weeks here two weeks they just lost their 508 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: two best players, like and Sauce Gardners and Quentin Williams. 509 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 4: So I like that. 510 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good thing when you have them on 511 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: the schedule coming up here. So yeah, I you don't 512 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: I like not seeing a big name player end up 513 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: within the division or on the bills with the Chiefs 514 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: or like these other teams that you're like right in 515 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: the competition with. Now that one went to the Colts 516 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: and sauce Gardner, so like the Colts are they're competing 517 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: for a one seed in the AFC. 518 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: And which they had made that trade before they face 519 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers. 520 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: I know that's the only that's the only downside. But like, 521 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: so if the Ravens were we're really looking ahead here, 522 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: Like if the Ravens end up making it to the 523 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: playoffs and see the Colts, they might have to go 524 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 3: up against Sauce Gardner in the playoffs. But honestly, crossdiver 525 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: bridge when you get there. I just think that the 526 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: focus is the division for the time being, And I 527 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: agree with you. I'm glad that there wasn't a big 528 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: time move within the division. Those moves already happened. The 529 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: Bengals already made a trade for Joe Flacco. They already 530 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: added him. The DK Metcalfe move happened in the offseason, 531 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: like some of the big trades for core pieces in 532 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: the division have already gone down. 533 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was also another trade for the Bengals. 534 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: They traded linebacker Logan Wilson to the Cowboys. He's been 535 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: a defensive centerpiece for them, kind of a team captain 536 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: in some ways. He did have a decrease in snaps 537 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: and their defense has been struggling. But that one surprised me. 538 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: He lost his job as a starter there and he 539 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: wanted out, and so the Bengals granted that trade and 540 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: now he's in Dallas. 541 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 542 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: The other big name was Trey Hendrickson to see if 543 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: they dealt him. They've been in a contract dispute for 544 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: how many years now three years. I don't been a 545 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: long time having gotten a contract extension done with Trey Hendricksonce. 546 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of rumors about whether he could be 547 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: shipped out that did not end up materializing. That would 548 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: have been a nice one to get him out of 549 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: the division, but that didn't end up happening. 550 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So overall, I think that you look at the 551 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: impact of the moves just around the league, and I 552 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: think that I feel pretty good about how it will 553 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: affect the Ravens, both from an Indivision standpoint and getting 554 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: some key guys off the Jets before you play him 555 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: here in a couple of weeks. 556 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: The Ravens are one of the winners of the trade deadline. 557 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: I think that this movie I go back to that. 558 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: I think that this is a move that made this 559 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: team better, ye and I feel really good about that, 560 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: and I think that's a good thing. One other move 561 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: that we should mention with the Ravens not a marquee trade, 562 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: but they did make a roster adjustment Snoosy Kane, former 563 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: seventh round pick for the Ravens. They waived him Tuesday 564 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: afternoon and promoted KeAndre Jackson from the practice squad. He's 565 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: earned his like this is a classic case of someone 566 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: earning their opportunity, and Jackson has really proven himself on 567 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: special teams. The Ravens have valued that he's earned that 568 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: spot and is active on game days, and so the 569 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: Ravens call him up from the practice squad, give him 570 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: spot on the fifty three man roster and credit to. 571 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: Him yep, five tackles in three games for KeAndre Jackson. 572 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: He's brought a spark there. I really like watching that 573 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: guy play on special teams. And did you pick up 574 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: after he made a tackle Thursday night in Miami when 575 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: he came off the field and did like a cartwheel 576 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: into a backflip. 577 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, got him sideline. It was crazy. Yeah, it was nuts. 578 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: His teammates were. 579 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: Like, whoa, he can do that pretty easily. 580 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: I was watching him at practice about a week ago 581 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: and I felt like he was just standing still, and 582 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: it was during warm ups and stretches, and all a sudden, 583 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: He's just flipping out there. 584 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: He's an athletic dude, and I love the passion that 585 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: he plays with. Ye, he is fired up out there 586 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: on special teams. So the Ravens found themselves a special 587 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: teams demon. Yeah, undrafted rookie out of Illinois State. It's 588 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Ruben Lowery made the original fifty three, 589 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: is an undrafted rookie safety. Now KeAndre Jackson, a second 590 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie safety, ultimately finds his way on the fifty 591 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: three right. 592 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: And then, of course Keyon Martin was another undrafted rookie 593 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: defensive backs. 594 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, corner. 595 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: So a lot of guys initially, either initially or currently 596 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: have made the team as undrafted rookies. So one last 597 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: thing before we go. Always want to read your emails. 598 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: You can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot 599 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: NFL dot net. Got an email here from Dusty Howard. 600 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: His question here is does Lamar Jackson's return help improve 601 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: the defense's ability to turn opposing offenses? To turn over 602 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: opposing offenses? 603 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 4: Hear me out? 604 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: He says, of course, Lamar Jackson's return means our offense 605 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: will be on the field longer, for longer. Drives said, 606 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: that allows the defense to rest, so that helps there. 607 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: But I also think Lamar's return forces opposing offensive coordinators, quarterbacks, 608 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: play callers to make decisions that they normally wouldn't make 609 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: against other teams. With Lamar back, the Ravens can vote 610 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: race anybody in the league. So for offensive coordinators, even 611 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: if it's a close score, the threat of the Ravens 612 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: being explosive can cause them to be more aggressive. He 613 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: explains to some more detail, but basically, with Lamar back 614 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: on the in the line up, Dusty's question. 615 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: Very aggressive. 616 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: They they're more aggressive. They go for a more and 617 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: fourth downs. The play calling itself is more aggressive. The 618 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: players themselves are trying to the quarterback is trying to 619 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: push the ball down the field, and all of that 620 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: can lead to more turnover opportunities for the defense. Are 621 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: you buying that? 622 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: I don't sure. 623 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: I think that teams definitely do come into games against 624 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens, certainly with Lamar Jackson on the field as 625 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: opposed to a backup quarterback saying we got to score points. 626 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: They know that they're gonna have to put up some numbers. 627 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: So yes, I think they are more aggressive in their 628 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: game plan. The play calling. 629 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Does it affect I don't think. You know, Tua was 630 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: out there during the game thinking I got Lamar Jackson 631 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: over there, Am I gonna make this throw or not? 632 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, in the in the moment, they're just playing 633 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: the game. But yeah, I think that they do have 634 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: to take a more aggressive stance. And then honestly, when 635 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: you're you're playing with a lead, it makes things easier 636 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: on your defense. And Malachi Starks, you know, case in point, 637 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: his first career reception comes when Dolphins are trailing, they 638 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: need a big play to a heaves one up takes 639 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: a chance and he comes down with an interception. So 640 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of case and point yeah. 641 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: I think that there's the potential for that. 642 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: The other thing that he mentioned in his email was 643 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: you're going to see teams go for it more and 644 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: fourth down knowing they're going up against the Ravens, they 645 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: have to be more aggressive, like you're talking about, and 646 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: I think that that is true. I think that like 647 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: we saw that against the Dolphins, like they were trying, 648 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: they knew that they had to keep up with the Ravens, 649 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: and that is a constant theme when teams are going 650 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: up against this Ravens offense. 651 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: You just have to keep pace. 652 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: And so teams are going to be more aggressive I 653 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: think on fourth downs. And I mean that can go 654 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: either way, to be honest, that that can either help 655 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: or hurt you. 656 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: And sometimes I just rather just punt in. 657 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know that can go either way. 658 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: I think that there's there always some merit to that. 659 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: I think it adjusts, it alters the way that teams play. 660 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: You. 661 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: Now, Lamar Jackson was on the field all last season, 662 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: and the Ravens it's not like they were the league 663 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: leader in turnovers last year. Or in the first half, 664 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: first part of this season before he got hurt. You know, 665 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: so they've been preaching turnovers, didn't really get enough of 666 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: them early in the season or even last year, and so, 667 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, is that will it make a difference. I 668 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: think it can help. I think it can help. And 669 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: just with everything with Lamar, as we've said a million times, 670 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: he just elevates everything around him, and this can be 671 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: kind of a secondary benefit. So Dussie, I'll say, maybe 672 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: you're on the right track. I don't know if I 673 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 3: if I if it's an you know, iron clad belief, 674 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: but I think that you're on the right track. 675 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: I agree with that. Well, thank you for listening. 676 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the lounge at 677 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: Ravens NFL dot net. We're trying to get a player 678 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: guests for this week. 679 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: Got one in our crosshairs. 680 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: Yes we're not stay tuned who it is. 681 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Just stay tuned. 682 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: But we'll have more for you as the Ravens prepare 683 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: to head out to Minnesota to take on the Vikings. 684 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.