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Speaker 3: Odds to win the Super Bowl according to DraftKings this
Speaker 3: morning Eagles, then it's the Chiefs, then it's the Bills,
Speaker 3: and then it's the Commanders.
Speaker 4: You're going to.
Speaker 3: Get wishful predictions. I talk about wishful reporting. Sometimes we
Speaker 3: want something to happen because it makes our job easier.
Speaker 3: There's wishful predictions. I think you're going to find a
Speaker 3: lot of people who think the Commanders and the Bills
Speaker 3: are going to win this weekend. Now, I don't know
Speaker 3: if they really think they're going to win. They're hoping
Speaker 3: they win because we can be chiefed out. You're going
Speaker 3: to be eagled out too. But with Buffalo, you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, they finally did it. That was a nice
Speaker 3: reaction from.
Speaker 2: You, Marvin. Thank you.
Speaker 5: I was into it.
Speaker 2: You left your microphone on.
Speaker 5: Oh did you hit it?
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 3: It's like church, yeah, yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 6: Yes, going to the Catholic church. It is a culture
Speaker 6: shock with you we don't do that with your spirit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we don't do the no at all. There's no amen,
Speaker 6: no hallelujah, no praise be to Jesus.
Speaker 5: So nothing, Okay, just sit here.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, are you guys having a good time? And
Speaker 2: now you can shake hands?
Speaker 7: Here's the money basket.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, not a lot of joy I remember growing
Speaker 3: up and I said to my mom, like.
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to have fun? And she goes, no,
Speaker 2: we're in church.
Speaker 3: I go, well, but isn't a joyous isn't abration?
Speaker 2: She goes, no, you're in church. Like her answer was no,
Speaker 2: you're in church. I'm like okay.
Speaker 3: I then went to a church with a friend of mine.
Speaker 3: This is years ago, and they they had a great time.
Speaker 3: They had music. They you know, the guitar mass you
Speaker 3: know they had they've had drums. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 3: could get into this.
Speaker 6: Yes, ma, yes, the musicians are professional, like legit. They
Speaker 6: get paid to play at church and it is serious.
Speaker 6: So the church that we went to with my wife,
Speaker 6: it was forty five minutes. Praise in worship where you
Speaker 6: just sing was an hour and ten minutes.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 6: I mean they were killing it too. That bas paid
Speaker 6: that bass player was on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went to a Mass one time or no, it
Speaker 3: was just a I guess it's not mass, it's just
Speaker 3: the service service, okay.
Speaker 2: And my wife said, hey, it's new Age. Are you
Speaker 2: open minded?
Speaker 3: I said yeah, anything that adds a little joy to this.
Speaker 3: I'd sit there and I'd be like, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: yelled at. When I was a kid, went to church
Speaker 3: every single morning. When I was at school, every morning
Speaker 3: we went to church, had to get all dressed up.
Speaker 3: I remember just sitting there and then you go into
Speaker 3: the confessional like everything is damn. I'm in trouble already.
Speaker 3: I was born with a sin, Like how did this happen?
Speaker 2: Mom? What did I do? You're in church? I'd be like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm in church.
Speaker 3: So we go to this service and it is raucous,
Speaker 3: it is wild, and you know, even the sermon was great,
Speaker 3: like was it was entertaining, It had energy to it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, can't we sprinkle a little bit of
Speaker 3: that in to a Catholic Mass? Just give me a
Speaker 3: little bit. And then I remember when they broke out
Speaker 3: the guitars at my church Shreadfast Saint Susanna had folk music.
Speaker 3: You know, I was waiting for Joan Biez and Bob
Speaker 3: Dylan to come in. He answer, my friend, oh that
Speaker 3: was a big deal. It's like we got a guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're having fun, yes, Arvon.
Speaker 6: The only awkward part is when they try to get
Speaker 6: a little life in there. They clap on the one
Speaker 6: in the three, started the two in the four, and
Speaker 6: it's like now no, no, no, no, no, don't stop clapping like that.
Speaker 6: My wife starts. I was like, you stop too.
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Speaker 2: Awesome breakdown right there, Tyler sitting by Eagles.
Speaker 8: Eagles getting back to football.
Speaker 2: But in the same run the bold home mighty dang yes,
Speaker 2: Mark what they So?
Speaker 6: When I was a kid, the church I went to
Speaker 6: during football season, they started service an hour earlier so
Speaker 6: the pastor could get home and watched the giant.
Speaker 2: Respect like that.
Speaker 6: Church would be over every single Sunday during the season
Speaker 6: at twelve thirty so he can get home and watch
Speaker 6: his giant.
Speaker 2: Why are we always late to church? Though?
Speaker 3: I never understood that. Always my family was always late
Speaker 3: to church, and we live about I don't know three
Speaker 3: minutes away from the church, but somehow we would be late,
Speaker 3: or you get the people come in and they're they
Speaker 3: get it right, you know, for the homily, or they
Speaker 3: leave right after communion because those people have mastered it communion.
Speaker 3: You're walking back, walking back, not gonna go into.
Speaker 2: The pew sea.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but those are the people that also everybody noticed that,
Speaker 8: Oh John left you. Okay, that's something that like my
Speaker 8: grandmother would have been all over that Sunday before dinner.
Speaker 8: I would have already gotten the call from my mom.
Speaker 8: Hey my mom saw you leave church after communion.
Speaker 9: But yes, ud it seems it's like in the box,
Speaker 9: if you're showing up late regularly and or leaving early,
Speaker 9: you want to do just enough so you don't go
Speaker 9: to hell.
Speaker 10: I technically was here.
Speaker 5: What if the minimum I.
Speaker 9: Can do to show my face and still be in
Speaker 9: good you know, good graces?
Speaker 2: Yeah Lord, Yeah, yeah, you walk out right after communion.
Speaker 3: Plus when you have to turn around and you have
Speaker 3: to shake everybody's hand, like how far do you go
Speaker 3: down the road where you're going to shake everybody's hand?
Speaker 3: Like I like to just kind of acknowledge, like a yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, my wife is a oh oh, yes, peace.
Speaker 2: Be with Yes, yes you do the peace be with
Speaker 2: you head nod, Yes, that's big. Yeah, I did dap.
Speaker 10: I did dap.
Speaker 2: The other day.
Speaker 3: My wife goes, you should shake his hand. I go, nah,
Speaker 3: I don't think so on. Just a little dap. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: I wish you piece, but yeah.
Speaker 7: Not so much.
Speaker 2: He I'll shake your hand, Yeah, I'll light them out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just a little dap.
Speaker 9: We've got work in one of those complicated athlete handshakes
Speaker 9: that they do just to say, how hip there?
Speaker 2: All right? Poll question? What do we have today's seaton?
Speaker 8: Let's see, we got one here from I can't believe
Speaker 8: blank had become likable, Notre Dame commander's other.
Speaker 3: Okay, well commanders. I don't think we disliked the commanders,
Speaker 3: and we didn't care about them. They didn't care about him.
Speaker 3: You only cared about the owner. So you disliked an owner.
Speaker 3: You didn't care like they weren't on the radar to
Speaker 3: actually dislike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, paint, but.
Speaker 11: The Daniel Snyder stink was all over that franchise the
Speaker 11: past two decades, and you felt bad for like Ron
Speaker 11: Rivera and the different quarterbacks, and it made you almost
Speaker 11: like you said they're off the radar, but generally dislikable.
Speaker 2: It's so much so because of their owner.
Speaker 3: Well, nobody disliked the commanders because they didn't threaten you,
Speaker 3: They didn't bother you, like go Lee. They got to
Speaker 3: live with that guy. You know, if your owner is
Speaker 3: not a good guy in their winning, then that's different.
Speaker 3: But I look at the Commanders, is like they didn't
Speaker 3: they didn't factor into my life. It was like, oh yeah, commanders, Okay,
Speaker 3: those uniforms are kind of nice.
Speaker 2: All right, who's their coach?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes see. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I feel like there are some teams that you are,
Speaker 8: like you being people actively dislike.
Speaker 7: For sure.
Speaker 2: I know I have teams that I absolutely do not like.
Speaker 8: But then there's other teams that you're just sort of
Speaker 8: apathetic about, like whatever, Like the Raiders. For me, I'm
Speaker 8: kind of like, oh yeah, all right, let's see if
Speaker 8: they could figure it out or not. The Browns, all right,
Speaker 8: let's see if they could figure it out or not.
Speaker 8: I would put the Commanders in that scene things like,
Speaker 8: oh what, but now it looks like maybe they did
Speaker 8: figure it out.
Speaker 3: All right, great, But that's why people have wishful predictions.
Speaker 2: This weekend.
Speaker 3: I think they're just hopeful that the Chiefs aren't back
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. I don't know if they really
Speaker 3: believe Buffalo can win. I mean, it's a two point spread,
Speaker 3: so we wouldn't be shocked if Buffalo won. I think
Speaker 3: there would still be an element of surprise if that.
Speaker 3: The Bills be KMP City in Kanpas City. The Commanders,
Speaker 3: I think you're like, man, the Commanders are a good story.
Speaker 3: And here's something that came to me yesterday, and I
Speaker 3: hope this isn't a prediction of things to come, but
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the Commanders making it all the way
Speaker 3: to the NFC title Game, and the comparison was the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Hawks making it to the Eastern Conference Finals to
Speaker 3: face Philadelphia when they had Treya. And of course, when
Speaker 3: you like you remember that. It's one of those if
Speaker 3: you look at the Eastern Conference Finals in previous years
Speaker 3: and you go, oh, man, that's right, the Hawks made
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals. The Commanders feel that way, like
Speaker 3: they're not supposed to be here. At least it feels
Speaker 3: like they're a year early. And Atlanta was the same
Speaker 3: way and then Atlanta disappeared. I hope that that's not
Speaker 3: the case with the Commanders. It's been a great story
Speaker 3: with Jaden Daniels, but I think the wishful would be
Speaker 3: nice to have somebody else in there Philadelphia and Kansas City,
Speaker 3: and we've already seen that before. So I think you'll
Speaker 3: have people who will say, man, I'm rooting for pulling
Speaker 3: for prediction King Buffalo and Washington to make it into
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Uh so that is that the poll? What other poll
Speaker 3: questions do we have? Because I don't think people hate
Speaker 3: the Commanders. I just don't think they like Dan Snyder.
Speaker 3: The Commanders are a lovable team. I think now or
Speaker 3: that that underdog feel to him, and we're fascinated by
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels. The other thing I thought of with Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 3: I can't help but go back to RG three when
Speaker 3: he played there. He made one Pro Bowl his first year.
Speaker 3: He was incredible and then he got hurt. And if
Speaker 3: you see Jaden Daniels, he not a big guy. He's fast,
Speaker 3: but he's not a big guy. There's a bigger target there.
Speaker 3: He's a tall guy, he's wiry, no density to him,
Speaker 3: Like when he gets hit, you know he's spinning and
Speaker 3: That's what concerns me. You know, when you're looking at
Speaker 3: longevity here, and who would have thought RG three would
Speaker 3: not have been a Hall of Famer if you saw
Speaker 3: in that first year he had track speed and he
Speaker 3: was just different. You're looking at somebody who is the
Speaker 3: prototype of what the league is going to be.
Speaker 2: And then it didn't last long after that.
Speaker 3: But as RG three is said on the show, their
Speaker 3: decisions that he could have made that were smarter decisions.
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels has to understand that. And then I saw
Speaker 3: where the defensive coordinator for the Commanders said, Hey, Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts runs the ball, We're going to hit him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do. I don't think you
Speaker 3: need to tell everybody that, but the defensive coordinator for
Speaker 3: the Commander's Joe Witt Junior, said yesterday, we're going to
Speaker 3: hit him. That's their decision if they want to get
Speaker 3: him hit. If they don't, then keep him in the pocket. Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you need to say that. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that changes anything for the Eagles and
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. It's like, oh my god, wait, they're going
Speaker 3: to hit me. I'm guessing if you get it. Look,
Speaker 3: if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm telling my team, if
Speaker 3: you get a chance to take a shot, you take
Speaker 3: a shot, do it.
Speaker 2: Within the rules best you can.
Speaker 3: But if you somehow maybe go into the maybe that
Speaker 3: wasn't a legitimate hit, that's okay, we'll take the we'll
Speaker 3: take the penalty, I'll pay the fine. I don't know
Speaker 3: if Buffalo would say that to their players privately with
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, but if you get a chance hit him, yeah.
Speaker 8: They those type of comments do seem to eventually come
Speaker 8: back into like a bounty gate type scenario. You know, like, yes,
Speaker 8: it's great, tell your players that and all that stuff,
Speaker 8: but you don't really say that out loud, necessarily, not
Speaker 8: to go too extreme with it or anything. But they
Speaker 8: it's comments like that that eventually get twisted into something
Speaker 8: that they're not supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Yes, if Buddy Ryan was still coaching, then we might go,
Speaker 3: there's a bounty here, but there's no reason.
Speaker 2: There's no reason to say it.
Speaker 3: If you say it to your players, great, but saying
Speaker 3: it to the media that means you're basically going into
Speaker 3: the Eagles locker room and saying to Jalen Hurts, Hey,
Speaker 3: if you run, we're hitting you. By the way, Washington's
Speaker 3: defense against the Eagles gave up seven hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: two yards and fifty nine points in the two games
Speaker 3: between those two So that's what I would be a
Speaker 3: little more concerned about than just making sure I hit
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 11: Yes, Paul Washingt's playing the long game. They lulled them
Speaker 11: into a false sense of security of those two games.
Speaker 2: Mmm, they did a really good job. It is a
Speaker 2: really good job.
Speaker 9: Yes, unless they're employing reverse psychology making that comment publicly.
Speaker 9: How to even in your subconscious mind an official not
Speaker 9: have that in the back of the mind and anything
Speaker 9: close were like, well, they did say they were going
Speaker 9: to kind of go after them a little bit or
Speaker 9: treat them like a running back, and you're like, not
Speaker 9: intentionally just putting that in the ref's ear that like,
Speaker 9: we're going to be extra close watch how they're gonna
Speaker 9: hit him.
Speaker 3: It happens so fast on the field that I don't
Speaker 3: think an official is in the moment in a split
Speaker 3: second going hey they're dirty. Hey, that's I mean, it
Speaker 3: all kind of sorts itself out. I would think if
Speaker 3: you're hitting somebody in the pocket, then that would be different. Hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna hit him. We're gonna hit him right as
Speaker 3: he throws the ball. That would be something that I
Speaker 3: would keep an eye on. But as far as Jalen
Speaker 3: hurts outside the pocket, well, I mean, he is a
Speaker 3: runner once he's outside the pocket, So I don't I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you say it. You don't need to say it,
Speaker 3: but you might get caught up and you're spirited, you know,
Speaker 3: you're fiery. We're gonna if he runs, we're gonna hit
Speaker 3: him like okay and get his football. I hope you do.
Speaker 3: But do we have that sound? Can we get that?
Speaker 2: Marvin?
Speaker 12: We've had a number of these guys that they are
Speaker 12: that we've had to prepare for. And so the one
Speaker 12: thing is as if he's going to run the ball,
Speaker 12: and if the coordinator makes a decision for him to
Speaker 12: run the ball, we're gonna treat him like a running
Speaker 12: back and we're going to hit him that way, you know.
Speaker 12: So that's that's their decision. If they want to get
Speaker 12: him hit the way that that he gets hit. If
Speaker 12: they don't, they'll keep him in the pocket. So that's
Speaker 12: that's what we're.
Speaker 7: Going to do.
Speaker 3: Okay, coordinators don't talk to the media like, how did
Speaker 3: this happen?
Speaker 2: Where all of a sudden he's given the game plan?
Speaker 5: Here we dare you it hurts to run? Watch what happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, giving his knee concerns, I don't know how
Speaker 3: much he's going to run. But if you're Washington, keep
Speaker 3: him in the pocket. Make him a thrower. That's no surprise.
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Speaker 3: these games coming up this weekend. The Jags get a coach.
Speaker 2: I think we'll have that for you coming up. Dan
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Speaker 3: poll results, and we got a situation here with Jacksonville
Speaker 3: in Tampa. Does Jacksonville finally have their coach? And exactly
Speaker 3: what happened. We'll retrace the last forty eight hours with
Speaker 3: Rick Stroud coming up here in a moment. Clay Matthews
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Speaker 3: this hour. Booger McFarlane next hour, and Ohio state head
Speaker 3: coach Ryan Day will stop by as well. The points
Speaker 3: spread stay the same, the Eagles getting six giving six
Speaker 3: to the Commanders and the Bills are getting one and
Speaker 3: a half against the Chiefs. Whether for both cities should
Speaker 3: be around the same, no snow. Expected temperatures in the thirties.
Speaker 3: Obviously with the Chiefs game, it'll get a little colder
Speaker 3: than that as the evening progresses. That kickoff is at
Speaker 3: six thirty the Commanders and the Eagles at three Eastern
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Speaker 8: Yeah, our one we put up there. This one was
Speaker 8: from Marvin. The Super Bowl matchup you're rooting for. Your
Speaker 8: options are Bill's Eagles, Bills, Commanders Chiefs, Commander's Chiefs Eagles.
Speaker 8: You want to guess who people are rooting for.
Speaker 2: Commander's Bills.
Speaker 8: Commander's Bills right now has fifty seven percent of the vote. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you want to know the one that they're least looking
Speaker 8: forward to, Chiefs Eagles.
Speaker 2: Chiefs Eagles. Yeah, what the heck? Why am I surprised
Speaker 2: by that? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Those are two great teams, they are, but we want
Speaker 3: something fresh.
Speaker 2: One of them has a chance to go to win
Speaker 2: three in a row.
Speaker 5: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: We'll give you our most must win game of the
Speaker 2: weekend coming up. A little bit later on, we.
Speaker 8: Switch just to be clear that they've all been must
Speaker 8: win games for several weeks now.
Speaker 2: This is the most most must must win win, even
Speaker 2: more than last week.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, there there are coaches or players that
Speaker 3: this is the most must win game of the weekend.
Speaker 2: It may not be the team, it may be the person.
Speaker 2: So I'll have that for you coming up. Rick Stroud.
Speaker 3: We didn't think we'd ever talked to Rick Stroud again
Speaker 3: when Tom Brady left he retired, and here he is.
Speaker 3: Rick Stroud, the Bucks writer, NFL beat writer, for the
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Times. And here we are, Rick, tell me
Speaker 3: what happened over the last forty eight hours with the
Speaker 3: all of a sudden object of desire Liam Cohen, Dan.
Speaker 14: We're the land of runaway brides man. Bill Parcells did
Speaker 14: it twice, Chick Kelly did it once. So keep your
Speaker 14: receipt on the crystal stemware around here. But you know, look,
Speaker 14: Liam Cohen did a great job last year in his
Speaker 14: first season with the Bucks on offense obviously, and so
Speaker 14: they didn't want to leave lose him, and they knew
Speaker 14: that he was had one interview with Jacksonville. Virtually he
Speaker 14: was supposed to go up there on Wednesday. Bucks got
Speaker 14: him to agree to a really a record contract, one
Speaker 14: of the highest paid coordinators in football, something like four
Speaker 14: and a half million dollars a year, but it was
Speaker 14: contingent on him not going back to Jacksonville. And they
Speaker 14: thought he was going to come in. There was some
Speaker 14: talk about a zoom call with him and all this.
Speaker 14: He didn't come in on Wednesday, and they didn't hear
Speaker 14: from him from about two thirty on Wednesday till about
Speaker 14: five o'clock on Thursday.
Speaker 15: He was zero dark thirty on him. So I think
Speaker 15: they got a little suspicious, And.
Speaker 14: Finally he did call Todd Bowles around five o'clock on
Speaker 14: Thursday to let him know that his kid was in
Speaker 14: fact sick. He had been with him sometime that day.
Speaker 14: But oh, by the way, I'm going to look back
Speaker 14: into the Jacksonville situation, when in fact, I think that
Speaker 14: deal was all done.
Speaker 15: So they were.
Speaker 14: They were pretty pretty upset in Tampa Bay, as you
Speaker 14: can imagine, and now they need a new coordinator.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I know that people have brought up his son went
Speaker 3: to the hospital, but.
Speaker 2: In the court and this just looks messy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that he maybe his son, you know, obviously has
Speaker 3: something going through something. His wife just posted something an
Speaker 3: hour ago. But you still got on a plane and
Speaker 3: went to Jacksonville.
Speaker 14: Correct, Absolutely he did. He didn't say he did not
Speaker 14: tell the Bucks he was there. You know, I've talked
Speaker 14: to many of those guys over there. They're just very upset.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 15: It's just not the way you do business.
Speaker 14: You didn't have to sign the contract per se, and
Speaker 14: nothing was gonna, you know, really prevent you from interviewing
Speaker 14: for a head coaching job.
Speaker 15: You can't block a guy to do that.
Speaker 14: But you know, the whole uh interpersonal thing that that
Speaker 14: you know, just kind of flying up there without telling
Speaker 14: people he was gone, and then not really being you know,
Speaker 14: fort Wright when he did tell Todd Bowles that, you know,
Speaker 14: he's kind of looking back into him it at that point,
Speaker 14: I think he'd already been to Jacksonville. So the timeline
Speaker 14: is bad. You know, it's like a few good Bucks
Speaker 14: and we're trying to see check the tower logs and see,
Speaker 14: you know, when he left.
Speaker 15: And all that stuff. It's just it's just a mess.
Speaker 14: And in the bottom line is the Bucks will now
Speaker 14: have their fourth offensive coordinator in his many years and
Speaker 14: for Baker Mayfield it might be eight. I'm not sure
Speaker 14: I've lost count, but so it affects them obviously next season.
Speaker 2: What's Jacksonville getting, Well, they're.
Speaker 14: Getting a guy that they better anchor down because he's
Speaker 14: only you know, he's been to like five different places
Speaker 14: in the last five years.
Speaker 15: But he's a hell of a play caller, he really is.
Speaker 14: He did a nice job schematically, you know, he runs
Speaker 14: an offense that was similar to what he did in
Speaker 14: Los Angeles with Sean McVay. He never called place till
Speaker 14: he got to Tampa in the NFL. But he's a
Speaker 14: great teacher and these young players, you saw them get
Speaker 14: better each week, Bucky Irving, Jalen McMillan, guys that had
Speaker 14: to step in when they lost Mike Evans, when they
Speaker 14: lost Chris Godwin.
Speaker 15: For the season.
Speaker 14: And you know, he just he gives the quarterback answers,
Speaker 14: you know, and talking to Baker Mayfield, he had some
Speaker 14: success with Dave Canalis the year before. He called him
Speaker 14: an optimist bully, which is what, you know, sort of
Speaker 14: what he needed, right. But from a schematic standpoint and
Speaker 14: play calling, Liam was at a different level. He could
Speaker 14: go to line of scrimmage, get him out of bad place.
Speaker 14: And you saw what Baker did right, forty one touchdowns,
Speaker 14: forty five hundred yards, seventy one percent. I mean, he
Speaker 14: was he was lights out except for too many interceptions.
Speaker 14: But you know, I just think that they're going to
Speaker 14: miss his ability to teach and develop and really, you know,
Speaker 14: the schematics were so good for this football team.
Speaker 2: Is he a head coach though?
Speaker 14: I don't know, you know, And and the thing about
Speaker 14: that is as great as he was as an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 14: you know, that's a different job. I mean, you know,
Speaker 14: there's gonna be five things a day that you're not
Speaker 14: prepared to have to deal with, you know, anything from
Speaker 14: you know, your girlfriend broke up with you, your mom sick,
Speaker 14: whatever it is, and so that's going to take away
Speaker 14: from his game planning.
Speaker 15: I assume he's going to continue to try to call plays.
Speaker 14: But if you've got Trevor Lawrence and you're trying to,
Speaker 14: you know, turn him around, you know, I think that
Speaker 14: he'll he'll find a way to protect him. If they
Speaker 14: could add some players on the offensive line, get a
Speaker 14: run game going, He's going to do great things offensively.
Speaker 14: But you know that's that's that's the job. The job
Speaker 14: is much different. You're addressing the entire team. You're setting
Speaker 14: the tone for the franchise and from what I understand,
Speaker 14: and he's going to have control over who they bring
Speaker 14: in there to to help him with personnel. So this
Speaker 14: is not just the head coaching job, but I think
Speaker 14: in many ways he's going to be more involved in
Speaker 14: a lot of the player acquisitions and things like that.
Speaker 14: So it's a it's a big lead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why you know, if you say, look, I
Speaker 3: don't want to come in under Trent Bulkey, I get it.
Speaker 3: So you go back, they give you this extension, then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they fired Trent Maulkey. Why can't
Speaker 3: you just say to Tampa, look, things have changed here.
Speaker 3: They're letting me have total autonomy here. I'd be crazy
Speaker 3: not to pay, as you know, to pass up this opportunity.
Speaker 2: What would the.
Speaker 3: Buccaneers have rescinded their offer, Like, would they have moved
Speaker 3: on from him?
Speaker 4: I don't know that they would have.
Speaker 14: I mean, I think they would have hung in there
Speaker 14: and let him do what he wanted to do. You know,
Speaker 14: the offer was contingent on him not taking the second interview.
Speaker 14: I mean, I think, you know, possession is the biggest
Speaker 14: thing here, right, don't let the guy out of the building.
Speaker 14: And so that was the Bucks intent with it, like
Speaker 14: we're going to make you the highest paid offensive coordinator,
Speaker 14: but you can't take that second interview. So the minute
Speaker 14: he decided to do that, he kind of avoided what
Speaker 14: was going to be his new contract, which he never signed. So,
Speaker 14: you know, it was just it was just a game
Speaker 14: of subterfuge. It just it didn't make sense that you
Speaker 14: would kind of sneak around like this. I think that's
Speaker 14: what most people are upset about in the organization, and
Speaker 14: believe me, they're pretty upset about it, but they'll get over.
Speaker 14: It's going to make those joint practices with the Jaguars
Speaker 14: really entertaining next next year, next summer.
Speaker 2: Rick is always great to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Good to see it.
Speaker 3: Dan Rick Stroun, Buccaneers, NFL beat right for Tampa Bay Times,
Speaker 3: co author of The Players Coach with Tom Moore from
Speaker 3: Bradshaw Manning, Brady and Beyond, host of Sports Day Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, a.
Speaker 3: Couple of phone calls in here, got our poll question
Speaker 3: for hour two, Seaton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we had the one.
Speaker 8: I didn't know if we were going to go back
Speaker 8: to figuring out unlikable teams that had become likable, Okay,
Speaker 8: because right now you kind of have the Eagles in there, who,
Speaker 8: based on our poll results, seem unlikable.
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't really know why, though.
Speaker 8: It might be their fans, Okay, no offense, maybe some.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Are the LA Dodgers entering that category or in that
Speaker 11: category with how they are overspending in comparison to the
Speaker 11: rest of baseball? The Yankees had that generation ago that's
Speaker 11: cooled the Dodgers feel like they're entering that. Geez, these
Speaker 11: guys won't give anyone else a chance.
Speaker 7: Category do you.
Speaker 2: Care if people don't like you? If I'm a Dodger fan,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you have to embrace this like Yankee fans
Speaker 3: did in a previous generation. There are dynasties where you
Speaker 3: just say, you're not going to like us, deal with it,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think that the Chiefs aren't apologizing for anything, Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you don't like us, So did the Patriots apologize?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Now you might say, are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Now
Speaker 3: that's a bigger topic. But that's a topic really for
Speaker 3: the commissioner. That's a topic for these owners of What
Speaker 3: kind of sport do you want to run?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: You can spend all this money, you can defer money.
Speaker 3: You've got all these billions of billions of dollars with
Speaker 3: the ownership group there, you got a pipeline to players
Speaker 3: in Japan. I mean, they're taking advantage of everything that
Speaker 3: they have, all of their assets. But why wouldn't you? Now,
Speaker 3: I may not like it because I want to see
Speaker 3: these other you know, like i'd like for Paul's schemes
Speaker 3: to maybe pitch in a playoff, Gamers or the you know,
Speaker 3: the Reds. You know, to be able to be in
Speaker 3: the postseason. You know, to see Dela Cruz on a
Speaker 3: big stage. I would like to see that, but the
Speaker 3: odds are will see them on a big stage in
Speaker 3: another uniform. I'd like to be able to see teams
Speaker 3: have that opportunity. I mean, the NFL goes out of
Speaker 3: its way to make sure you have parody. They're trying
Speaker 3: their best. You have salary caps. They change the schedule.
Speaker 3: If you finish in first, your schedule's tougher. If you
Speaker 3: finish in last, it's easier. They go out of their
Speaker 3: way to keep the fan bases engaged. And that's the
Speaker 3: only thing I worry about. Because the Dodgers are the
Speaker 3: Dodgers over under for next season. This is the It
Speaker 3: might be the highest over underwin total in recent history.
Speaker 16: Marvin one hundred and eight and a half, Paul one
Speaker 16: oh two and a half ton won eleven and a
Speaker 16: half seaton dang eleven?
Speaker 2: Uh, Paul, you said one O two and a half?
Speaker 8: Uh one O three and a half?
Speaker 3: Bloop Yes, one O three and a half. And according
Speaker 3: to uh DraftKings sports book history. That's the highest over
Speaker 3: under total for a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Point.
Speaker 11: So the Dodgers are frustrating, but they're not dislikable because
Speaker 11: they're players. Everyone loves Otani, he's transfixing, he's fun, Freddie Freeman,
Speaker 11: Mookie Betts. There's not dislikable people on their roster.
Speaker 3: Dave Roberts their manager, right, love their uniforms gorgeous?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, don So when do they become as likable
Speaker 9: as they may be the new evil empire?
Speaker 10: Or are they already there?
Speaker 9: And the Yankees are in the rearview mirror in the
Speaker 9: last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I think they're a likable empire, like a dictator ish Yeah.
Speaker 3: I I don't know if you dis I mean, you
Speaker 3: may dislike the method to becoming an empire, but.
Speaker 2: I mean they bought those rings. Yeah yeah, but the
Speaker 2: same with the Yankees, like go Yankees wore that a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were that one a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Mark, can we stop with the I know
Speaker 6: see it was making a joke buying those rings.
Speaker 5: No one plays for free, like you get you get
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So nobody plays place for free.
Speaker 7: I checked that He's right, is.
Speaker 5: That okay, Like when somebody says, oh, they bought those rings, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I would, but the union won't let me.
Speaker 8: So I just gotta take this money.
Speaker 5: Like what does that even mean?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 2: It means you spent more than everybody else, so stupid,
Speaker 2: go ahead, But they did.
Speaker 5: But that you're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to, Well, not everybody has the money.
Speaker 5: Make more money at me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a war chest of over thirty billion dollars,
Speaker 3: I think. And if you can say to Otani, why
Speaker 3: don't you defer all of this money?
Speaker 2: Sure? I mean, how much does he need?
Speaker 3: And then you're going to say that to somebody else
Speaker 3: and somebody else, and you're all in it together. You
Speaker 3: got a chance to win, you got to play. You
Speaker 3: can play in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They're just taking advantage of what is in front of them.
Speaker 3: They're not changing loopholes here. Now, you might say the
Speaker 3: deferred money might be, but still that's business strategy. When
Speaker 3: the Yankees were spending more money than everybody else, they
Speaker 3: were doing it, and they were making money from the
Speaker 3: Yes network. They did something nobody else and then everybody
Speaker 3: else tried to get their own network. The Yankees did
Speaker 3: a wonderful job with that, and whether you liked it
Speaker 3: or not, it was still musty TV and they embraced
Speaker 3: being the evil Empire.
Speaker 2: Yes, ton, if.
Speaker 5: It's legal, it's legal.
Speaker 9: It's like when a quarterback pretends to slide but then
Speaker 9: they reach for that extra yard and they're not that
Speaker 9: had bounce yet certain quarterbacks and the AFT title.
Speaker 2: No, I got it. I'm not sure what that has
Speaker 2: to do with a.
Speaker 11: Very cryptic Todd, who are you referencing?
Speaker 2: Anything that's legal is legal.
Speaker 9: You're allowed to do this, even though the current president
Speaker 9: of the United States has admitted to certain tax loopholes.
Speaker 9: And people do whatever they can do as long as
Speaker 9: it's within the law.
Speaker 2: What happened? Where are we going?
Speaker 9: I'm sever whether it's money or politics or anything whatever.
Speaker 9: If something is legal, take it all the way. You
Speaker 9: could take it all the way to the line, whether
Speaker 9: your quarterback looking for that extra yard or whatever it is,
Speaker 9: or you could spend you're allowed to spend one hundred
Speaker 9: billion dollars on your team, then you're to go do
Speaker 9: it if you haven't.
Speaker 11: Okay, Yes, yes, it's like a guy walk out of
Speaker 11: a store and not getting charged for dishes and plates
Speaker 11: exactly going back. It's not cheating or stealing, but it's crossed.
Speaker 2: That was stealing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that wasn't exactly a loophole, that took advantage. That
Speaker 8: was just straight up.
Speaker 2: We forgot to pay for this stuff.
Speaker 3: You and your wife and then you, you know, screeched
Speaker 3: out of there.
Speaker 9: For a moment, we considered going back, and then we
Speaker 9: rationalize that at least I did by these plates are
Speaker 9: probably so overpriced.
Speaker 7: Anyway, you're not getting any bar.
Speaker 2: You broke the rules. He broke the rules. Technically, take
Speaker 2: them back.
Speaker 9: And steal it.
Speaker 3: They gave it, but I'd take a break. I just
Speaker 3: looked over and on my monitor, I see Clay Matthews there.
Speaker 9: I didn't grab the box and run out of the store,
Speaker 9: and all the lights went on and there was alarms
Speaker 9: going off.
Speaker 2: By the way, Clay Matthews looks like he's about thirty three.
Speaker 11: Frustrating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty three. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to Clay Matthews Junior the third and we'll
Speaker 3: get phone calls coming up as well.
Speaker 2: We're back after this.
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Speaker 3: More phone calls coming up. The most must win game
Speaker 3: of the weekend. I have that for you coming up
Speaker 3: as well. Ryan Day, Ohio state head coach in an
Speaker 3: hour from now. The Jags they lost their possible head coach,
Speaker 3: then they got their head coach, and Liam Cohen going
Speaker 3: to the Jacksonville Jaguars after saying he wasn't going to
Speaker 3: go there, then went back to Tampa. Then they fired
Speaker 3: the GM Trent Bulke, and then he went back to Jacksonville,
Speaker 3: and now I guess he's agreed in principle to be
Speaker 3: their new head coach. So that leaves Cowboys, Raiders, and
Speaker 3: the Saints. I don't know if anybody's looking for somebody
Speaker 3: who's still in the playoffs, but that might be the case,
Speaker 3: except for the Cowboys might be hiring Brian Schottenheimer, although
Speaker 3: I guess they reached out to Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: was Clay Matthews coach at US City. In fact, Pete
Speaker 3: Carroll said, the greatest mistake at SC was not starting
Speaker 3: you until your fourth game of your senior year.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: That's right?
Speaker 3: Why did it take that long for him to realize
Speaker 3: what he had in you.
Speaker 5: They were.
Speaker 17: We at the time had, you know, littered with five
Speaker 17: star recruits, blue chip athletes. In fact, my senior year,
Speaker 17: Everson Griffin came in and Pete had named him or
Speaker 17: he had said that Everson could be playing in the
Speaker 17: NFL as a freshman, so he was playing in front
Speaker 17: of me. So I think it was just you don't
Speaker 17: see a walk on go from being a walk on
Speaker 17: to starting for the number one ranked defense in the country.
Speaker 5: So I think that was the ultimate hang up.
Speaker 17: And it took a loss to Oregon State on Thursday
Speaker 17: night for me to actually break the lineup. And if
Speaker 17: we had never lost, that was our only loss of
Speaker 17: the season. Who knows what the history books, you know,
Speaker 17: who knows what would have happened.
Speaker 2: Why did you walk on at us D?
Speaker 5: I had no offers. I had no offers.
Speaker 17: I lied to a few people when I got to
Speaker 17: sc because I wanted to fit in.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, you know, where did you have offers
Speaker 5: to the class? I picked some lowly packed ten schools.
Speaker 17: I said, Arizona, Arizona State, even I even ventured to
Speaker 17: say Idaho.
Speaker 5: But I didn't have any.
Speaker 2: Well, when did you realize you could play at a
Speaker 2: high level.
Speaker 17: It was probably my third year there some my red
Speaker 17: shirt sophomore year, I started getting on some special teams
Speaker 17: and making some plays kickoff, punt, just kind of had
Speaker 17: a knack for it and ended up winning Special Teams
Speaker 17: Player of the Year that year as well as the
Speaker 17: following two years. So after that year, I felt like
Speaker 17: I could play. But you know, to say that I
Speaker 17: would have been a first round.
Speaker 5: Draft pick, I would have been lying to you.
Speaker 3: You're a six time pro bowler and the Packers' all
Speaker 3: time sack leader. Has your name been mentioned for a
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5: I'd like to think so.
Speaker 17: So this year I was I was shocked when my
Speaker 17: name wasn't one of the one hundred and seventy guys
Speaker 17: or however that works.
Speaker 5: And I had my agent.
Speaker 17: Look into it because I thought I at least deserved
Speaker 17: the opportunity to be within that group of gentlemen. And
Speaker 17: apparently you have to have somebody nominate you, and the
Speaker 17: person who was the Packers, you know, who heads the Packers,
Speaker 17: wasn't aware that my five years since retiring was up,
Speaker 17: so I just got skipped over, and he assured my
Speaker 17: representatives that next year that wouldn't be an issue. But
Speaker 17: that leads to another conversation, which is, you know the
Speaker 17: process of nominating people. I mean it's it's let's just say,
Speaker 17: cooler heads, you know, prevail.
Speaker 5: Just because I was a little I was a little
Speaker 5: hot about it.
Speaker 3: Well it's tricky though, because it should be. If somebody
Speaker 3: says your name and then you go, yeah, hall of famer.
Speaker 3: But now we see it where you're not a Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer now, but in four years you might be
Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. You didn't play any more games,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know how that worked.
Speaker 3: Like Sterling Sharp. I think Sterling Sharp's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: I mean he if we're going to put Terrell Davis
Speaker 3: in injury shortened career or Gail, I mean he was incredible.
Speaker 3: He won the Triple Crown. I think maybe the first
Speaker 3: guy to win the receiving Triple Crown.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, we went through this with my dad.
Speaker 17: As a matter of fact, So my dad nineteen year career,
Speaker 17: you know, four time Pro bowler, just most games played
Speaker 17: by a linebacker.
Speaker 5: I might have the most tackles by.
Speaker 17: A linebacker up there with seou But he played for
Speaker 17: a small market in Cleveland for sixteen years and never
Speaker 17: won a championship, and wasn't you know, big on promoting himself.
Speaker 17: And ultimately, for the first twenty four years he would
Speaker 17: make you know, the top seventy five, top twenty five.
Speaker 17: And it wasn't until the last couple of years when
Speaker 17: my sister really I got to give her credits. She
Speaker 17: really started campaigning, politicking. Where the last year, the twenty
Speaker 17: fifth year, my father finished sixth. The voters came out,
Speaker 17: you know, they told her confident, like, hey, he was
Speaker 17: just he was in that top ten but finished six
Speaker 17: So like you had said, he didn't play anymore games.
Speaker 17: He didn't do anything different within those twenty five years
Speaker 17: since retiring in ninety six. Yet somehow he was, you know,
Speaker 17: a couple of votes away from being enshrined into the
Speaker 17: you know, the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: But he didn't for you know, the twenty years before that.
Speaker 17: It's it's all process. But I do understand what you're saying.
Speaker 17: There's guys who are you know, sure doubt or excuse me,
Speaker 17: no doubt, surefire Hall of famers, and then there's those
Speaker 17: who you know, kind of have to wait.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 2: What did it break your dad's heart? Now?
Speaker 17: He's uh, he's always said that he's at peace with
Speaker 17: his career, and he means that, you know, and fortunately
Speaker 17: I got to model, you know, my game after his.
Speaker 17: And so when I got out of the game, we
Speaker 17: none of us ever, you know, we're always ushered out,
Speaker 17: you know, never on our own terms, very rarely. And
Speaker 17: so I think that has allowed not only myself not
Speaker 17: to make this about myself, but just watching him and
Speaker 17: how he left the game, so to speak, you know,
Speaker 17: conduct himself.
Speaker 3: Really talking to Clay Matthews, super Bowl champ with the Packers,
Speaker 3: six time Pro bowler joining us on behalf of COLT.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that here in a moment. Last time
Speaker 3: you talked to Aaron Rodgers was when.
Speaker 5: Well he text every once in a while.
Speaker 17: I want to say it was it was the louder
Speaker 17: part of this season, but it was nothing, nothing more
Speaker 17: than you know, inside.
Speaker 5: Jokes and humor. I'm sure he needed that at that
Speaker 5: point in this season.
Speaker 2: So it's not a conversation.
Speaker 3: It's not a close relationship.
Speaker 17: I mean, it's it's close, but I mean I'm not
Speaker 17: I'm not gonna ask him in the middle of the
Speaker 17: season or the latter parts of the season, like, hey,
Speaker 17: what are you thinking for next year? Are you gonna
Speaker 17: stick with the Jets? You going to the Vikings? I mean, what,
Speaker 17: you know, what's going on here? So I'm sure I'll
Speaker 17: find out like everybody else. But you know, as we know,
Speaker 17: he's an enigma.
Speaker 2: Was he that way?
Speaker 15: Though?
Speaker 2: In Green Bay? We just it wasn't put on, you know,
Speaker 2: a national stage for us.
Speaker 5: Well when you say was he that way? What are
Speaker 5: you what are you referring to?
Speaker 2: Enigma?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 17: No, he was, Yeah, different in difference, not I don't
Speaker 17: mean that in a negative connotation.
Speaker 5: He's always been different.
Speaker 17: I've always said, you know, you you compare him to
Speaker 17: some of these other quarterbacks, the uh, these the I'm
Speaker 17: gonna call them the.
Speaker 5: Raw raw guys. And I don't mean that in a
Speaker 5: negative way.
Speaker 17: But you know leaders of team who you know, bring
Speaker 17: the huddle together, Drew Breeses, the Peyton Mannings. I always
Speaker 17: compared him growing up in La to Kobe. You know,
Speaker 17: if you wanted to be great and you wanted to
Speaker 17: be better, you would gravitate towards him and he.
Speaker 5: Would bring you in.
Speaker 17: And that's why you saw the relationships he had with
Speaker 17: Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Greg Jennings. You know, they they
Speaker 17: were elite at the time, and he was able to
Speaker 17: form that chemistry because those guys had such.
Speaker 5: A strong bond.
Speaker 2: So he led by example.
Speaker 17: He led by absolutely, he led by example. I mean
Speaker 17: practice was so competitive, so much fun. I mean, he
Speaker 17: was trying to go at us. It wasn't this you know,
Speaker 17: lovey dovey, you know, hey, you'll get him in the game.
Speaker 5: It was we were going after each other.
Speaker 3: But Kobe there was a fear factor there, like Kobe
Speaker 3: wanted to crush you, even if you were his teammate,
Speaker 3: like you, I want you to be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was Rogers like that.
Speaker 17: I mean it's a little different when you're auditioning out
Speaker 17: the ball, like you know, like Aaron was to his receivers.
Speaker 17: But yeah, I think you know, when is enough enough?
Speaker 17: It is four MVPs enough. I'm sure he wonted five.
Speaker 17: And that's why I truly make that comparison to him,
Speaker 17: because I think he wants to crush you. Now, obviously
Speaker 17: we're on the same team, but in practice, that's no different.
Speaker 17: And I'm sure you know, watching him this year. You
Speaker 17: see those glimpses of of you know what he has,
Speaker 17: and I don't know what that means moving forward. I
Speaker 17: thought it was I thought for me it was pretty
Speaker 17: telling when he walked off the field with Davante with
Speaker 17: his arm around him, and we remember when he walked
Speaker 17: off the field with Randall Cobb in Green Bay with
Speaker 17: that meant So we'll see if I'm reading into it
Speaker 17: too much just being a fanboy, or or what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But I'd love it. Do you think he's gonna play
Speaker 2: one more year?
Speaker 5: I think he should play one more year. Do I
Speaker 5: think he will? I don't know.
Speaker 3: What would you do if Mahomes did what he does
Speaker 3: with the going to the sidelines or I'm gonna slide.
Speaker 2: I might slide. I kind of slide. So you hit them?
Speaker 17: Yeah, where I did hit people in twenty eighteen, that's
Speaker 17: when the narrative change. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers. It
Speaker 17: wasn't until Anthony Barr broke his collarbone. I want to say,
Speaker 17: in seventeen maybe sixteen, where the shift changed and you
Speaker 17: weren't allowed to hit the quarterback anymore. And you know
Speaker 17: some would argue that's a good thing for the sport,
Speaker 17: you know, keeping the Mahomes and the Josh Allens and
Speaker 17: Lamar Jackson's, but they've taken full advantage of it, and
Speaker 17: it's it's hard to man, it's hard to watch, you know,
Speaker 17: these quarterback especially with the flopping too. It's guys making
Speaker 17: fifty sixty million dollars getting every call, you know, having
Speaker 17: so much success, and they're still they're dancing around the sideline,
Speaker 17: they're sliding when they you know, become a runner. So
Speaker 17: it is hard to watch. And I hope there's a
Speaker 17: you know, an onus on changing that next year as.
Speaker 2: Far as okay, what would you do, what would you
Speaker 2: do the rev you know, create the rule.
Speaker 17: The rule is the refs need to stop calling those
Speaker 17: plays until the quarterbacks learned that it's your one to
Speaker 17: get hit.
Speaker 5: It's part of the game. It's a tough game.
Speaker 17: I mean the type of hits I used to deliver
Speaker 17: on quarterbacks first eight nine years in my career versus
Speaker 17: the last two. That's how the game should be played.
Speaker 17: You're allowed one step, you give them a hit. If
Speaker 17: the quarterback gets the ball late, you got to let
Speaker 17: him know. It's no different than guys coming across the middle.
Speaker 17: You had dbs who put hits, but now there's defensive
Speaker 17: defenseless receivers and you see quarterbacks. You saw that Josh
Speaker 17: Allen Pass. I want to say in the I don't
Speaker 17: know if it's the wild Carter divisional game where you
Speaker 17: know he got his receiver or running back knocked out,
Speaker 17: it was that's what's gonna happen coming across the middle.
Speaker 5: But I'm old school in my thought. I know that
Speaker 5: has to change.
Speaker 17: I just think to answer your question, I think referees
Speaker 17: need to keep, you know, the flags in their pocket
Speaker 17: unless it's truly egregious. And that leads to a separate
Speaker 17: conversation about referees.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have a sack or a hit on
Speaker 3: a quarterback where he felt bad.
Speaker 5: Where I felt bad about it? Never? Never, Although no,
Speaker 5: I changed, I'm sorry I thought about that.
Speaker 17: I didn't have a sack, but I hit Brian Hoyer
Speaker 17: one time and I broke his arm. I broke his
Speaker 17: forearm and I met him years later, and I apologize.
Speaker 17: I felt I never want to injure anybody. I know
Speaker 17: everybody says that, but truly I felt bad about that.
Speaker 2: But how do you apologize if it's part of the game.
Speaker 17: Oh, like, well, I didn't apologize at the time, but
Speaker 17: when you see him face to face and then and
Speaker 17: then you kind of remove the shield, the mask, so
Speaker 17: to speak, and there's a you know, some humility and
Speaker 17: a human element to it. But no, I didn't apologize
Speaker 17: during the game. It wasn't like, yeah, I got him
Speaker 17: out of the game. But you know, you never want
Speaker 17: to hurt anybody.
Speaker 3: I keep saying that somebody's going to hit Mahomes and
Speaker 3: they're going to take the penalty, they'll take the fund
Speaker 3: and like, at some point that's going to happen here.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't.
Speaker 3: Like saying that, but the reality is somebody will eventually
Speaker 3: say this has to stop.
Speaker 17: I you're right, Dan, this might I don't even know. Yeah,
Speaker 17: so I'm dating on whether and I tell you this
Speaker 17: but in the the two but I will. Two thousand
Speaker 17: and fourteen NFC Championship game against Seattle, Russell Wilson threw
Speaker 17: an interception and this was right around the time they
Speaker 17: were you know, these crackback hits and stuff, and I tried,
Speaker 17: I tried to give him everything I had.
Speaker 5: And fortunately stuck it out.
Speaker 17: That's when he drank that bubbly water that got rid
Speaker 17: of whatever head injury he had. But you're right, that
Speaker 17: is that is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: So you went out of your way, you were you
Speaker 2: were trying to take his head off.
Speaker 17: I didn't go out of my way to go get him.
Speaker 17: You'll see, he was naturally in the way. He was
Speaker 17: trying to make the tackle, but I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 17: gonna because he was a quarterback. I wasn't gonna put
Speaker 17: my hands up. I was trying to put a hit on.
Speaker 17: That's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Why are you yelling to be No.
Speaker 5: You're right, I'm sorry. I'm just tell him taking this
Speaker 5: out on you.
Speaker 17: But there's this narrative now that you're a dirty player
Speaker 17: if you hit a quarterback, you know, just because the
Speaker 17: rules have changed so much to protect them.
Speaker 2: Do you have a tackling dummy at the house, So like, kid,
Speaker 2: do you need to hit somebody?
Speaker 7: My kids?
Speaker 5: My kids? Yeah, I tackle them. I wrestle with them.
Speaker 5: We don't hit them, We tackle them. We wrestled.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you hit somebody?
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't get my workout in this morning. But
Speaker 5: it's been a while.
Speaker 17: I help out with my my five year old's flag
Speaker 17: football team. Hey, we won the championship this year. Yeah,
Speaker 17: I want a championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. Does he have a ponytail yet?
Speaker 17: No, no ponytail. He's he's high and tight. He goes
Speaker 17: to a private school, so they frown on that.
Speaker 3: All right, tell me, but you if he wanted a ponytail,
Speaker 3: you'd say all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 17: In fact, I probably petitioned the school and say ponytails
Speaker 17: by Dan Patrick has me on.
Speaker 2: Dude, you look like you're like in your mid thirties.
Speaker 5: It's that strong hairline.
Speaker 2: No, you look at you look like you could play.
Speaker 5: Well listen, I mean not to.
Speaker 17: I felt like I could still play after year eleven
Speaker 17: with the Rams. But you know, this is a separate conversation.
Speaker 17: I was ready to move on to be a dad.
Speaker 17: It was my second you know, second chapter, third chet,
Speaker 17: whatever it was in life. I was ready to be
Speaker 17: a dad. But I felt like I could still play.
Speaker 17: I don't know about right now, but I appreciate the compliment.
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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you again. I hope you're doing
Speaker 3: well and we'll work on that Hall of Fame stuff.
Speaker 5: Hey, I appreciate it, Dan, thanks for having me on
Speaker 5: always pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thank you, bun. We'll take a break. Oh no, can't
Speaker 2: take a break.
Speaker 11: One point emergency fill in the blanked in NFL news game.
Speaker 7: We have to do this quickly.
Speaker 11: Okay, here's the thing from Adam Schefter sources. The Raiders
Speaker 11: and Blank are aiming to work out a deal to
Speaker 11: make him the next head coach the Raiders and Blank.
Speaker 11: Pete Carroll, He Carol's correct, what day?
Speaker 2: What let me take a break?
Speaker 3: I should bring back I should bring back Clay Matthews
Speaker 3: to asking Pete Carroll going to the Raiders.
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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll is back in the NFL the Raiders and
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll working on a deal, finalizing a deal to
Speaker 3: make him the next head coach of the Raiders, reportedly
Speaker 3: a three year deal. Booker McFarlane in the Mothership. We'll
Speaker 3: get his reaction to this coming up shortly, and Ryan Day,
Speaker 3: Ohio state head coach, will stop by as well. The
Speaker 3: Jags have a new coach. He's Liam Cohen, and he
Speaker 3: left Tampa Bay, went to Jacksonville and then came back
Speaker 3: to Tampa Bay, and then left Tampa Bay and then
Speaker 3: went back to Jacksonville. And now he goes back as
Speaker 3: the head coach. Commander's Eagles three Eastern, Bill's Chiefs six
Speaker 3: point thirty Eastern and weather shouldn't be an issue either
Speaker 3: one of these places. Commander's still getting six and the
Speaker 3: Bills are getting one and a half. More phone calls
Speaker 3: coming up this final hour, we make way for NFL
Speaker 3: College and ESPN College and NFL analyst Booker McFarland on
Speaker 3: the program. Your reaction to Pete Carroll back in the
Speaker 3: NFL coach and the Raiders booger.
Speaker 18: Well, I think the Raiders want stability. I think that's
Speaker 18: the one thing you're getting when you get a veteran
Speaker 18: coach like Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4: I think it's good.
Speaker 18: I think Pete Carroll is going to give them a
Speaker 18: sense of okay, now we are a professional organization. Not
Speaker 18: that they weren't well with Antonio appears, but you just
Speaker 18: got the feeling that there was always the question are
Speaker 18: we going to keep Antonio or are we not? I
Speaker 18: think Pete Carroll's hire says we got our coach. I
Speaker 18: think it's a three year deal with the team option
Speaker 18: for the fourth, So I think Pete's in good shape.
Speaker 18: Now the Raiders have stability. Now comes the big question, Dan,
Speaker 18: who's going to be the quarterback? Because I don't think
Speaker 18: Gardner Minshew or aoc ain't O'Connell either one of them
Speaker 18: are the answers, So now they have to figure that out.
Speaker 18: And then I think Pete Carroll has always been a
Speaker 18: guy that got his team to play at a maximum level.
Speaker 4: So I expect no different now with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Okay, but as a veteran, like what is Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: going to bring to that organization aside from SI But
Speaker 3: I'm talking about day to day like why would Pete
Speaker 3: Carroll be the person that they wanted. I know they
Speaker 3: lost out on Ben Johnson, but yeah, you go from
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson with no head coaching experience to Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: with a lot of head coaching experience.
Speaker 18: Structure, been there, He's taking team to Super Bowls. Like,
Speaker 18: Pete understands how to get it done. Pete knows what
Speaker 18: it takes. And I think anytime you have somebody that
Speaker 18: stands in front of the room who knows what it takes,
Speaker 18: you automatically have buy in because you've been there, You've
Speaker 18: done that, and so now the players know that if
Speaker 18: we just do what Pete says, Pete will take us there.
Speaker 18: And there's nothing better in any type of job that
Speaker 18: you're in. I think you will attest to this, There's
Speaker 18: nothing better than confidence. It's amazing what happens when you
Speaker 18: get the right people in the right place. How that
Speaker 18: gives an organization confidence. Just look at the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 18: They were left for dead last year. In comes Dan Quinn,
Speaker 18: they get new ownership, they get a new quarterback, and
Speaker 18: they're planning for a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Dan.
Speaker 18: Let that be no better example than when you get
Speaker 18: the right people in the right spot. Now your organization
Speaker 18: can take off. Whether the Raiders take off at that level,
Speaker 18: we'll see, but they definitely have the right coach.
Speaker 4: In my opinion.
Speaker 3: The big difference is obviously Jaden Daniels. But is this
Speaker 3: team's pretty much the team that was there last year
Speaker 3: and then you add Jayden to this? I mean, is
Speaker 3: it that simple that that kind of turnaround.
Speaker 18: Well, the quarterback is a big piece, and then you
Speaker 18: bring in Bobby Wagner, you get some veteran guys, but
Speaker 18: there's no question that the quarterback is the central piece
Speaker 18: to that. He touches the ball every single play. Then
Speaker 18: and when you have a guy that's a difference maker
Speaker 18: that touches the ball every single play, Now the other
Speaker 18: fifty two guys in the organization understand and know that
Speaker 18: we got a guy that can compete with the upper
Speaker 18: echeline of the league. And I'm not saying he's better
Speaker 18: than Mahomes of Barol Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, but
Speaker 18: he can't compete. And when I wake up and go
Speaker 18: to the building every morning, man, that's a great feeling
Speaker 18: because I know, if I do my job, we got
Speaker 18: a chance. There's a there's a difference when you have
Speaker 18: a guy in there. And no disrespect to Sam Howell.
Speaker 18: Sam Howell wasn't getting me warm and fuzzy every time
Speaker 18: I walked in the building. Jay Daniels gives me an
Speaker 18: opportunity to be that way.
Speaker 2: How do they beat the Eagles?
Speaker 4: Stop the run.
Speaker 18: They got to stop sa Kwon Barkley. And it sounds
Speaker 18: crazy because Jalen Hurts. We've seen him go toe to
Speaker 18: toe with Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl. But they
Speaker 18: got to make Jalen Hurst beat him. They got to
Speaker 18: make Jalen Hurst throw the football to A J. Brown
Speaker 18: and Davonte Smith.
Speaker 17: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think it's the lesser of.
Speaker 18: Two evils because either one the passing game or the
Speaker 18: running game, can get you. But I think if you
Speaker 18: are the commanders, you've got to take away these fifty
Speaker 18: sixty seven yard runs the sain Kwon Bark has been
Speaker 18: putting up and make Jalen Hurts beat you. And I
Speaker 18: think if they do that, they'll at least give themselves
Speaker 18: an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Then we don't know if he's one hundred percent Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts right. So given that you know that knee could
Speaker 3: be a little bonky, or do you want to kind
Speaker 3: of wars him to be mobile as opposed to force
Speaker 3: him to being a pocket pancer.
Speaker 18: Well, I think anytime he's in the pocket number one,
Speaker 18: you want to get pressure up the middle, like with
Speaker 18: Jonathan Allen Deron paying you want pressure up the middle,
Speaker 18: and then you want to make him go to his left.
Speaker 18: I think the numbers are astronomically worse when he goes
Speaker 18: to his left, as you would expect right handed quarterback
Speaker 18: going left. It's tougher to throw. So you want to
Speaker 18: make him go to his left rather than scramblin to
Speaker 18: his right. So if I'm bringing pressure, I'm bringing pressure
Speaker 18: from his right arm. I'm gonna make him go left.
Speaker 18: Anything you can get to take advantage of his impairment,
Speaker 18: because let's face it, nobody even if you don't get
Speaker 18: your knee twisted is healthy this time of year, but
Speaker 18: especially him when he.
Speaker 4: Got that knee twisted up.
Speaker 18: I mean, we thought maybe he wasn't going to come
Speaker 18: back in the game last week, and then he comes
Speaker 18: back and he finishes. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 18: be one hundred percent. I think if you're an Eagles
Speaker 18: fan and you're hoping he's closer to eighty five or ninety,
Speaker 18: I would bet he's probably closer to seventy five.
Speaker 4: Will know early. I'm blitzing him early, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to see whether.
Speaker 18: Or not he can run. And if I know early
Speaker 18: on he can't run, that changes my entire game plan.
Speaker 18: And so I think you're gonna see dan Quinn find
Speaker 18: out in the first series how healthy that need is
Speaker 18: by bringing pressure from the from the right, from his
Speaker 18: right arm, or up the middle, make him run and
Speaker 18: just see how healthy he is.
Speaker 3: What would you do as a defensive player with Mahomes
Speaker 3: with the sliding that going out of the going out
Speaker 3: of bounds, Dude, it feels like, you know, he knows
Speaker 3: he's protected and he's kind of flirting with these rules here.
Speaker 2: But as a defensive player, what would you do.
Speaker 4: I think it's up to the coaches.
Speaker 18: Number One, pre game, I think you have a talk
Speaker 18: to the referees like, hey, listen, we know the quarterback
Speaker 18: is protected. However, how do you want us to handle
Speaker 18: this when he's a runner, Because when he's a runner,
Speaker 18: he's not protected, because again he's a runner, not a
Speaker 18: quarterback in the pocket. But we've seen mahomes run down
Speaker 18: the field and then slide twenty or thirty yards down
Speaker 18: the field. And so I'm having a talk with the
Speaker 18: referee just to say, hey, let's alert and be on
Speaker 18: alert for the late slide because if I'm already in
Speaker 18: my tackling motion, I can't stop. And then you got
Speaker 18: to tell your defenders, hey, guys, let's proceed with aggressive caution.
Speaker 18: And here's what I mean. You got to go ahet
Speaker 18: in one hundred miles an hour. And then at the
Speaker 18: last minute, if you think if he's sliding, then use
Speaker 18: your hands. Don't hit him with your elbow in your head,
Speaker 18: use your hands to get him down. I think the
Speaker 18: biggest deal with these penalties is you're seeing a lot
Speaker 18: of blows with your shoulder pass or the helmet or
Speaker 18: the form to Patrick Mahomes's head. Let's use our hands
Speaker 18: to get him on the ground. And I think if
Speaker 18: they do that, they'll probably get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 18: But I think Patrick understands how to manipulate the rules
Speaker 18: a little bit, and I don't blame it. How many
Speaker 18: times have we seen him though, like he's going out
Speaker 18: of bounds and he puts that foot in the ground
Speaker 18: and gets another ten or fifteen. I think that's what
Speaker 18: you have to alert the reff like, hey, how are
Speaker 18: you going to call that?
Speaker 4: And what would you like me to do?
Speaker 2: Booger.
Speaker 3: I've said it now, I'm not calling for it, but
Speaker 3: I know that somebody's going to hit him. Somebody's going
Speaker 3: to pop him at some point. If you're going to
Speaker 3: continue to flirt with the I'm going out of bound,
Speaker 3: not going out of bounds. I'm sliding them, not slily.
Speaker 3: Somebody's going to take a shot. Deal with the fifteen
Speaker 3: yards benches clear, Maybe a fine, but until the NFL,
Speaker 3: if you want to protect your quarterbacks, they have to
Speaker 3: do better at this rule or these rules so the
Speaker 3: defense can understand, how can this be a level playing field?
Speaker 3: Because as it is now, it's not a level playing field.
Speaker 3: And maybe they don't want that booger, but at some
Speaker 3: point I worry that somebody's going to take a shot.
Speaker 18: Well, I don't think to your point, I don't know
Speaker 18: if they've wanted to be a level playing field because
Speaker 18: they realize that the quarterback sale. Like right now we're
Speaker 18: looking at jayde Daniels, Jalen Hurtz, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen,
Speaker 18: and I think the NFL is salivating right now. We're
Speaker 18: gonna any combination of two of these four quarterbacks in
Speaker 18: the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: We can sell it.
Speaker 18: And that's what you want, Like if you go back
Speaker 18: to the Super Bowl with Nick Foles in it, like
Speaker 18: the NFL, like Philadelphia want everybody's happy. But we ain't
Speaker 18: selling Nick Foles to America to tune in with one
Speaker 18: hundred and thirty million people. I love Nick Foles, but
Speaker 18: he's not making me warm and fuzzy to turn the
Speaker 18: TV to CBS. And so I think that the NFL
Speaker 18: is going to protect their quarterbacks. However, you have to
Speaker 18: make the game fair for defensive players. And to your point, Dan,
Speaker 18: I may even tell my defenders this, Hey, guys, early
Speaker 18: in the game, first half, first half, I'll give you
Speaker 18: I'll give you a little leeway. So if he's going
Speaker 18: out of bounce, take a shot because we can recover
Speaker 18: in the second half. Now, like the game, you gotta
Speaker 18: be cautious, but the first half, let's light his ass
Speaker 18: up a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: NFL Prime Time with Chris Berman and Booger McFarland right
Speaker 3: after the game the AFC Title Game at around five
Speaker 3: eastern on the Mothership? Are the Bills a running team?
Speaker 18: I think the Bills are whatever they need to be team.
Speaker 18: You know, when they had Stefan Diggs, that's all we
Speaker 18: talked about was Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen. Now they've morphed
Speaker 18: into this team that they can do whatever they need
Speaker 18: to do. They went out and got a Marii Cooper
Speaker 18: so they can throw the football to secure Amari Cooper.
Speaker 18: They got the two tighty impactage they can go to.
Speaker 18: They can throw out the James Cook out of the backfield,
Speaker 18: so they have weapon to throw the football. However, I
Speaker 18: think what we've realized is this postseason, dam the more
Speaker 18: physical teams are winning these games.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 18: The team that can control the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 18: be physically imposing those are the teams that are winning
Speaker 18: these games. And I think Buffalo had said, Okay, we've
Speaker 18: tried this with Josh being Superman.
Speaker 4: That didn't work. We've tried this a number of ways.
Speaker 4: So how about let's be physical.
Speaker 18: Let's get thirty five carries a game between our running
Speaker 18: backs and Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Let's control the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 18: And then in those moments late in the movie, okay
Speaker 18: about the time the movies about the commes tell the
Speaker 18: god at quarterback to put the kpe on and now
Speaker 18: go turn into Superman. And when he turns into Superman,
Speaker 18: that means whatever he needs to do.
Speaker 4: If he needs to.
Speaker 18: Run thirty, run thirty, if he needs to throw a sixty,
Speaker 18: to throw a sixty. And so I think they've developed
Speaker 18: into that type of team with one caveat, don't turn
Speaker 18: the football over. They haven't turned the ball over, and
Speaker 18: I think those are the primary reasons they've been successful.
Speaker 2: Are you chiefed out?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 18: I never get chiefed out, because when you're a competitor,
Speaker 18: every year is different and so to say I'm chiefed
Speaker 18: out would mean that I'm rooting for I'm not rooting
Speaker 18: for the best teams.
Speaker 4: I think that each and every time you go out.
Speaker 4: You got to earn it.
Speaker 18: The Chiefs have earned back to back Super Bowls. If
Speaker 18: they get to a third, they will have earned it.
Speaker 18: Everything is earned in this business. Then nothing is given, man,
Speaker 18: And so I'm not chiefed out because I know how hard.
Speaker 4: It is to go and earn what it is that
Speaker 4: you need to get.
Speaker 18: To win a Super Bowl. I want to none of them.
Speaker 18: Nothing has ever been given. Everything has got to be earned.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Chiefs get favorable calls?
Speaker 18: I think the home team is always gonna get favorable calls,
Speaker 18: and the Chiefs have pretty much been at home except
Speaker 18: for one playoff run, So I do think that they
Speaker 18: get favorable calls because the crowd to think about this,
Speaker 18: I'm gonna put a scenario out there. Let's say Patrick
Speaker 18: Mahomes is running down the chief sideline and there's a
Speaker 18: questionable hit. Everybody in the stadium along with everybody in
Speaker 18: the sideline is going to be throw the flag through
Speaker 18: the flag, and human nature is going to kind of
Speaker 18: influence the official Look like it takes somebody really that
Speaker 18: that's got a really nice temperament and a really strong
Speaker 18: demeanor not to listen to seventy thousand plus all the
Speaker 18: coaches in front of your in front of your face
Speaker 18: doing that. So I think the home team, especially on
Speaker 18: the home sideline, always get a favorable flag.
Speaker 3: My best to Chris Berman and we'll be watching Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Great to talk to you again always man.
Speaker 4: Love coming on with you guys.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, Sir Booger McFarlane. One of
Speaker 3: these days he's coming up for a meet Friday. It
Speaker 3: keeps threatening. I mean, we'll get ready, We'll have he
Speaker 3: can create the menu NFL Primetime with Chris Berman and
Speaker 3: Booger right after the conclusion of the AFC title game
Speaker 3: on the mother Ship Alex in Utah. Then we'll take
Speaker 3: a break. Ryan Day, the Ohio state head coach, will
Speaker 3: join us.
Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Hey.
Speaker 19: Morning, guys. Happy to meet Friday.
Speaker 4: I am yeah.
Speaker 19: I in my short time as like a big football fan,
Speaker 19: I can't think of a better coach division than the
Speaker 19: AFC West now, So I guess that's sort of.
Speaker 4: My question is there has there been a better coach.
Speaker 19: Division where you have potentially four Hall of Famers all
Speaker 19: coaching one division at the same time, And also makes
Speaker 19: me wonder how long before Tom Brady goes to give
Speaker 19: Pete Carroll high five and then just low balls him
Speaker 19: by saying, Hey, Malcolm Butler and balk Away.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Malcolm Butler comes up in the
Speaker 3: press conference when they introduced Pete Carol, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Just guessing coach, we're handing this one off or yeah, uh, Pete,
Speaker 2: game on the line. You're gonna run the ball?
Speaker 4: Let go?
Speaker 2: Are you going to pass the ball? Good question. We'll
Speaker 2: have to do some research.
Speaker 3: Is this the best head coaching division in recent memory
Speaker 3: with the NFL?
Speaker 5: Yes, morv recent memory.
Speaker 6: I was going to say all time NFC East was
Speaker 6: at Parcels, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs.
Speaker 5: That's just all the time for.
Speaker 3: Meal was was ver Meil the head coach? Then the Eagles.
Speaker 3: All right, let me take a break. We'll talk to
Speaker 3: Brian Day after this.
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Speaker 3: Try to sneak in a few more phone calls here
Speaker 3: waiting for Ryan Day, head coach at Ohio State. That
Speaker 3: AFC West with Pete Carroll with the Raiders, Jim Harball
Speaker 3: with the Chargers, Sean Payton in Denver, Andy Reid, and
Speaker 3: Kansas City. We were trying to come up with on
Speaker 3: short notice, is there another conference division that had coaches
Speaker 3: that would rival this one? Because Andy Reach's Hall of Famer,
Speaker 3: Jim Harball, he's a football Hall.
Speaker 2: Of Fame, not NFL hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: And Sean Payton probably a borderline Hall of Famer. Pete
Speaker 3: Carroll in there as well, winning a Super Bowl, losing
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl as well, but now back with the
Speaker 3: Raiders and a three year deal eight seven to seven
Speaker 3: to three. DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com,
Speaker 3: Twitter handle at DP show. He's Ryan Day, head coach
Speaker 3: at Ohio State National Champs coach. Congratulations. How much of
Speaker 3: this was joy and how much of this was relief?
Speaker 7: It was a combination of the two.
Speaker 20: Yeah, it was it was both, and I think the
Speaker 20: whole run that we went on throughout the playoffs was
Speaker 20: that way. I really haven't had as much fun coaching
Speaker 20: a team like that in a long time.
Speaker 7: It was just a bunch of guys together.
Speaker 20: There really was no class because class was out and
Speaker 20: we just spent a bunch of time together and had
Speaker 20: a bunch of bunch of fun playing. But in the end,
Speaker 20: as we headed in that last game, we just knew that,
Speaker 20: you know, it would just be another story that kind
Speaker 20: of comes and goes. But now the fact that we won,
Speaker 20: we're able to cement that story in the history of
Speaker 20: college football, and obviously at Ohio State.
Speaker 3: But take me back to Michigan, and I had a
Speaker 3: former player say this to me that when Michigan tried
Speaker 3: to plant the flag, that maybe brought your team together
Speaker 3: or more together. Whether that's true or not, you would
Speaker 3: know that better. But it's almost like it galvanized this team.
Speaker 3: Nothing's going to be easy us against the world. They
Speaker 3: embarrassed us. Now let's go out and prove that we're
Speaker 3: still the best team. Anything I'm saying that wasn't true.
Speaker 20: I think it's certainly part of the story of the year.
Speaker 20: There's no question about that. And I felt like this
Speaker 20: team was close anyways. I thought we were galvanized. But
Speaker 20: when you go through something like that, you know you
Speaker 20: have to regroup and figure out, most importantly, what happened
Speaker 20: and how do we get these things fixed. So you know,
Speaker 20: there's a lot of ways to look at this and
Speaker 20: some more dramatic than others, But the truth is we
Speaker 20: had to get things fixed. There was things that were
Speaker 20: just not right coming out of that game that you know,
Speaker 20: in all three phases, we need to get addressed. And
Speaker 20: that was the bottom line. And then there was a
Speaker 20: lot of other things that came with it, as you know.
Speaker 20: And you know, once we got those things addressed and
Speaker 20: the players recognize that things needed to get fixed and
Speaker 20: knew the plan going into the Tennessee game, there was
Speaker 20: just there was a collective, just like you said, a
Speaker 20: bunch of guys together saying, all right, we're gonna make
Speaker 20: this run and we're gonna be danger once we get
Speaker 20: some momentum going again.
Speaker 2: But how does this affect you personally?
Speaker 3: You lose to Michigan again, and you know that topic
Speaker 3: in Columbus in that state, and you know, you're you're
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're fighting for survival or what
Speaker 3: I tell me your emotions where you lose to Michigan again,
Speaker 3: and you know the importance of what that means.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, certainly, you know, there was obviously disappointment
Speaker 20: amongst all the other emotions, but you know, once those
Speaker 20: things kind of come and go and you have a
Speaker 20: couple of days you have to refocus yourself. And as
Speaker 20: difficult as that was, it was an opportunity to write
Speaker 20: an unbelievable story in the next month. And I felt
Speaker 20: like it was an opportunity for me as a dad,
Speaker 20: as a husband, and as a man to show my
Speaker 20: family that you know, when you get knocked down and
Speaker 20: you're backed up against the wall, that you know, it's
Speaker 20: about how you handle yourself and how you fight yourself
Speaker 20: out of these types of situations. And then and then,
Speaker 20: you know, for our team, you know, for the guys
Speaker 20: on the team and the seniors and even the young
Speaker 20: guys to watch, you know, you know, how you handle
Speaker 20: yourself and then have something to grab on to it
Speaker 20: for the rest of their life, and then serve as
Speaker 20: an example for all the Buckeye fans who you know,
Speaker 20: certainly you know had ups and downs this season, but
Speaker 20: we're able to, you know, see how you handle yourself
Speaker 20: when when things get really really difficult, And I think
Speaker 20: that really defines people's character.
Speaker 3: It was reported there were death threats. How do you
Speaker 3: talk to your kids about that or your wife about
Speaker 3: how do you process that?
Speaker 7: I think every year for us it's become.
Speaker 20: Easier to manage when you know our family first was
Speaker 20: named you know, the head coach in twenty nineteen. My
Speaker 20: wife and the kids were smaller than we were, all
Speaker 20: sitting on the bed together, and I've told the story before.
Speaker 7: She said, you know, started crying, said our family's never
Speaker 7: going to be the same again. And she was right.
Speaker 20: But that didn't make it easy. You know, you're expected
Speaker 20: to win them all, and when you don't, it's it's tough.
Speaker 20: But that's because of the passion, and nobody puts more
Speaker 20: pressure on themselves than myself and my family. Nobody wants
Speaker 20: to win more than my kids and my wife, So
Speaker 20: it isn't so much that because they're more disappointed than
Speaker 20: anybody could possibly be in Buckeye Nation. And so we
Speaker 20: shared the same frustration because you know, my family and
Speaker 20: my kids want to win worse than even I do.
Speaker 20: I mean, I just that's the way they're wired and
Speaker 20: and they love the fans, and so you know, when
Speaker 20: you do lose, you know, there's there's a feeling of disappointment,
Speaker 20: and you know you share in the frustration with people
Speaker 20: because they love it so much. But that's that's also living,
Speaker 20: you know, you're relevant. I mean, that's that's what makes
Speaker 20: Ohio State so special is because people care so much.
Speaker 20: Now with that comes from some craziness, but that's okay.
Speaker 19: Uh.
Speaker 7: It also makes when you win that much more special.
Speaker 2: What was it like when you saw your family after
Speaker 2: you won the title?
Speaker 7: Yeah? That was man, that was a special moment.
Speaker 20: You know, something that you know, always remember, just the
Speaker 20: fact that you could look at your your family and
Speaker 20: your wife and the eyes and say, hey, we did
Speaker 20: this thing together, and they did.
Speaker 7: They were a big part of it.
Speaker 20: And we know where we were about a month and
Speaker 20: a half ago and where we are right now, and
Speaker 20: it was pure joy.
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned earlier, is Ryan Day, head coach of
Speaker 3: Ohio State National champs. Take me back to the third
Speaker 3: and eleven call. Who makes the call? And was what
Speaker 3: was the other option in that situation?
Speaker 20: Well, we were trying to run down the clock we had.
Speaker 20: There's a point in the game where we're up by
Speaker 20: multiple scores and you start doing the math on it,
Speaker 20: and you're like, man, if we can just run out
Speaker 20: a few minutes, you know, each time we have the
Speaker 20: ball and continue to get some first downs and we
Speaker 20: could just who can milk this thing and win. And
Speaker 20: when you're talking about being that close to a national championship,
Speaker 20: you know you're holding on real tight. Maybe hold on
Speaker 20: a little two tight. But on first and second down
Speaker 20: we were gonna run the ball. We thought about throwing
Speaker 20: it on second down because we saw a man the
Speaker 20: man coverage on the outside, and you know, wanted to
Speaker 20: keep the clock running. And then they called the time
Speaker 20: out and on the headset there's a lot of back
Speaker 20: and forth there.
Speaker 7: Our whole offensive staff, I thought, did a great job.
Speaker 20: Throughout the whole run chips obviously right there, and and
Speaker 20: we said, you know, we run one more time and
Speaker 20: chew up the clock, and some guys said, no, let's
Speaker 20: let's let's call a third down play. And so we
Speaker 20: looked at the call sheet and we saw a play
Speaker 20: that is one of our bass plays that we.
Speaker 7: Put in day one.
Speaker 20: We're literally it's a go ball on the outside of
Speaker 20: the outside receivers and a middle read by our h
Speaker 20: and a couple of checkdowns by the inside guys, and
Speaker 20: we say, if we're.
Speaker 7: Lucky enough to get one on one on the outside.
Speaker 7: And then when we were launching that thing up.
Speaker 20: Away from the free safety and we had worked hard
Speaker 20: on that route, in particular because we knew we were
Speaker 20: getting a certain technique in the game, and so when
Speaker 20: we saw it, you know, our eyes lit up, so
Speaker 20: the wills and certainly.
Speaker 7: Had to be executed. But it was like in slow motion.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's it like when that ball's
Speaker 2: in the air?
Speaker 7: Slow motion?
Speaker 20: Just like holding your breath, knowing that if we catch
Speaker 20: this thing, we're probably national champs. And there's an unbelievable picture.
Speaker 20: It's a still photo from the sideline from the other way.
Speaker 20: You can see our entire sideline as the balls in
Speaker 20: the air, and just the look of everybody's face on
Speaker 20: that sideline is amazing, just because everyone can see, like,
Speaker 20: we catch this ball, we're going to be national champs.
Speaker 7: It was quite a moment.
Speaker 3: How difficult is it to keep your roster together? There's
Speaker 3: a report that Jeremiah Smith offered four and a half
Speaker 3: million dollars. Like Ohio State doesn't usually lose players, but
Speaker 3: now in today's nil and transfer portal, everybody's fair game.
Speaker 3: So how do you go about having conversations or retaining
Speaker 3: some of your players?
Speaker 20: I think the first thing you have to bring in
Speaker 20: great people and great families, but you also have to
Speaker 20: value them and try to do everything you can to
Speaker 20: get what they deserve and what's fair. But there's also
Speaker 20: something to be said for being around a program like ours,
Speaker 20: and you know, you think if it's all equal, you know,
Speaker 20: we'll have a chance to to get our share of guys.
Speaker 7: But but it is different. There's no question.
Speaker 20: I think as coaches were all looking for a little
Speaker 20: bit more guidelines on this. I mean, everything is so
Speaker 20: gray right now, and.
Speaker 3: How does that work though, coach that let's say I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm Georgia.
Speaker 3: I want to talk to him, Like, how does that
Speaker 3: go about that you get in front of somebody or
Speaker 3: you know, you put a price tag?
Speaker 2: And is there tampering in college football?
Speaker 20: I think one of the big issues that we have
Speaker 20: in across the board in college football right now is enforcement.
Speaker 20: I mean, you just you know, you know some of
Speaker 20: the stories of some of the things that have gone
Speaker 20: on just you know, within the last couple of years
Speaker 20: or even in the past, but enforcement is really strained
Speaker 20: right now. And so until we start enforcing some of
Speaker 20: these rules, like you said, I mean, people can just
Speaker 20: call someone's agents or someone's parents and offer them a
Speaker 20: certain amount of money and then it goes from there.
Speaker 20: And that's just part of it. I mean, there's so
Speaker 20: many other things that come in place. So that's one
Speaker 20: of the things to me that I think we've got
Speaker 20: to get addressed in college sports, in college football is
Speaker 20: enforcement because right now there's virtually none, and it's gotten
Speaker 20: worse as time has gone on.
Speaker 3: When's the last time but NFL team reached out to you.
Speaker 7: You know, they don't really reach out to me.
Speaker 20: They would reach out, I guess to my agent, and
Speaker 20: that happens sometimes. But you know, we have not really
Speaker 20: engaged because I love Ohio State and I want to
Speaker 20: be here as long as I can.
Speaker 2: So that's not a goal.
Speaker 20: No, that's not a goal. It's not a goal, and
Speaker 20: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't consider that somewhere down
Speaker 20: the line. But my son is a sophomore in high school,
Speaker 20: my daughters are in middle school. They love it here,
Speaker 20: and you know, I want to be here, you know,
Speaker 20: through there, through there, you know, run through high school
Speaker 20: and then you know, see what the next phase brings.
Speaker 20: But but like I said, you know, once the confetti fell,
Speaker 20: that was it.
Speaker 2: It's on next year. I know, do you get a vacation?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have We'll have some time.
Speaker 20: But but it's not like, you know, we're going away
Speaker 20: to Tahiti for a week.
Speaker 2: Were you on the phone to recruits after the national title?
Speaker 20: Recruits and you know, are our current players and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that night. I mean, that's a great thing. Saban
Speaker 2: would do that.
Speaker 3: He'd win a national title, get on the phone and
Speaker 3: say to a recruit, Hey, you could be celebrating with us,
Speaker 3: confetti probably in his hair.
Speaker 2: Did you do that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 20: But you know what, what's what's interesting is the timetables changed.
Speaker 20: So the early signing day. We had one hundred and
Speaker 20: forty five guys in our team this year, and over
Speaker 20: twenty of them were recruits that started classes on January sixth,
Speaker 20: so they were actually with the team for the last
Speaker 20: two games. So instead of the signing day, which should
Speaker 20: be happening next Wednesday, they had signed and were enrolled
Speaker 20: in classes.
Speaker 7: So like, the timetables changed a lot.
Speaker 20: But you know, we have obviously, you know, been recruiting
Speaker 20: the twenty sixth class, which is about other year away.
Speaker 3: Where would you put Jeremiah Smith with the other receivers
Speaker 3: you've coached.
Speaker 20: Well after the first year, it's hard to put him
Speaker 20: anywhere other than one. I think some of those guys
Speaker 20: had great freshman years, but not not like this.
Speaker 2: We need to check his birth certificate, Like how old
Speaker 2: is he, coach, come on.
Speaker 7: Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Yeah, but he's special and we knew he was special,
Speaker 20: and his maturity is beyond his years physically, mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 7: He's a special talent. As you know.
Speaker 3: Congrats, enjoy it while you can because we know what happens.
Speaker 3: So this season starts, then there's the Michigan game. Keep smiling,
Speaker 3: never ends?
Speaker 2: Does it? Thank you? Coach?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 7: Does?
Speaker 3: That's a Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State won
Speaker 3: the national title. And you know what, I got a
Speaker 3: big kick out of it. They win, and he's trying
Speaker 3: to get his headset off and his belt off and
Speaker 3: he's running down the sidelines and he just throws it.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it goes, but that joy that was,
Speaker 3: that's relief. That's true relief. And you hadn't had that before.
Speaker 3: But imagine you sit down with your family. You're trying
Speaker 3: to explain, Hey, our life has just changed, and like
Speaker 3: you're not taking the job of you know, Kansas football.
Speaker 3: This is Ohio sting and your life will change for
Speaker 3: the better and maybe for the worst. And then you
Speaker 3: get death threats when you lose to Michigan, and then
Speaker 3: you got to talk to your family about that, just
Speaker 3: so they understand. I mean, Dan Campbell in Detroit got
Speaker 3: death threats. This is Detroit where you're going like, thank
Speaker 3: god I got Dan Campbell as my coach. We almost
Speaker 3: got there. You had no hope before. Damn they're all
Speaker 3: parade for.
Speaker 2: But that's you know, that's the.
Speaker 3: Sad reality of this. It is big time business. We
Speaker 3: like to make it amateur sports.
Speaker 2: It is business. That is business. Unfortunately, Yeah, point.
Speaker 11: And you said the phrase roster retention. You know, five
Speaker 11: years ago, they didn't have to do that that much.
Speaker 11: Once in a while, guy transferred, but you had to
Speaker 11: sit or there was no incentive to transfer. Financially, it's
Speaker 11: a whole different world.
Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't think Ohio State have to worry about that,
Speaker 3: But here's a report by the website on three that
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith is getting a four and a half million
Speaker 3: dollar offer. I sure I'd do the same thing if
Speaker 3: I had the money. I got a sure thing, he's
Speaker 3: won a national title. You want to get four and
Speaker 3: a half million dollars. One of these schools, maybe an
Speaker 3: SEC school, is going to say, hey, come on down,
Speaker 3: come on down, we'll pay you