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Speaker 1: John Middlecoffe three and now podcasts? Hopefully everyone is having

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Speaker 1: a great day. It's a beautiful day, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: Tonight had to.

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Speaker 1: Be one of the more enjoyable nights of your life. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: So congrats to Dan Campbell, Aaron Glenn. Incredible defensive performance,

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Speaker 1: the players, the season. I mean, they won twelve games

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Speaker 1: I didn't go on with Colin today as I usually

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Speaker 1: So that's the game plan again. I mean, what a

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Speaker 1: And when you're a head coach and when you're building

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Speaker 1: But other than that, a couple other quick things, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jim Mersay. I saw this clip of Jim Mersay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a wheelchair. It was like the stand up

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Speaker 1: thing with wheels, and he was kind of sitting on it. Honestly,

437
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Speaker 1: it looked like a a like Joe Biden or something

438
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Speaker 1: getting wheeled around it. It was a pretty tough scene

439
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Speaker 1: coming out of the locker room.

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Speaker 2: And he had.

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Speaker 1: Said I don't know if he told reporters that that

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Speaker 1: both Jim mersay or excuse me, that Chris Ballard and

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Speaker 1: uh Shane Steichen will return again. When you see this visual,

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Speaker 1: you go, I'm not sure, says got a lot going

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Speaker 1: on there. So I think the Colts have been a

446
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Speaker 1: very controversial team over the last ten days. After McAfee

447
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Speaker 1: put that out, after they had that gutlass lost to

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Speaker 1: the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I think it's even above those two.

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Speaker 1: I think their owner, who's always been a kook, I

451
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Speaker 1: think physically, you know, he got he was in the

452
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Speaker 1: hospital a while back. I think it's fall falling apart,

453
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Speaker 1: and I think this organization's got a lot of issues.

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, big picture. Their quarterback got hurt early in

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Speaker 1: the season, tapped out of a game in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the season. Now his back issues. He's crawling around

457
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Speaker 1: his house.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what the hell they do. I

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Speaker 2: really don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel for Colts fans because I don't

461
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Speaker 1: think there's a light at the end of the tunnel

462
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Speaker 1: right now. And Steven Ross, who once wanted Flores the tanks,

463
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Speaker 1: we'd get Joe Burrow, who I've always defended for that

464
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Speaker 1: move because it just was the right move, said that,

465
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Speaker 1: so you can never you never know with Steven Ross,

466
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Speaker 1: like he can change his mind. I guess same thing

467
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Speaker 1: with Ersay. Though I don't even know if Ersa's the

468
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Speaker 1: one putting out these statements, could be his kids with

469
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I'm gonna take them at face value. They

470
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Speaker 1: put out a statement saying that Chris Greer and Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald or Mike McDaniel will return. So basically, as we

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Speaker 1: sitting here on Sunday night, we're essentially waiting on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I was actually in my last night before I went

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Speaker 1: So I watched the last episode that I had missed

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Speaker 1: A land Man and Jerry Jones is in the show.

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Speaker 1: He actually does a pretty good job. Like it was

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Speaker 1: I remember looking at Maria it was like eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: at nine, Like, I think that was a pretty good

481
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Speaker 1: scene with Jerry crying talking about his family. Actually felt

482
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Speaker 1: a little more like coherent than he often does when

483
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Speaker 1: he's on the radio or giving a locker room speech

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Speaker 1: to the to the Big Jays. But he's a wild card.

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Speaker 1: Who I mean, your guests good as mine. With that situation,

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Speaker 1: we know Doug Peterson's gonna get fired. No one gives

487
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Speaker 1: a shit about the Jags. The Giants obviously up in

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Speaker 1: the air. Schefter like kind of did this thing. I

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Speaker 1: I don't feel as confident that beside the Jags there's

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh, let's go around the league. A lot

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Speaker 1: has happened over the last couple hours. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say it was out of nowhere, because

532
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Speaker 1: there has been growing buzz. I feel like my YouTube

533
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Speaker 1: algorithm pumps me a lot of Boston stuff. Not sure why,

534
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Speaker 1: but I ended up consuming a lot of it. And

535
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about Gerrodmeo not surviving.

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Speaker 1: And then it became official before the afternoon games even ended.

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Speaker 1: And I think last week when Vrabel ended his contract

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Speaker 1: early interviewed with the Jets, a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: Boston went, this was kind of a flashing light to hey, Robert,

540
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to shit or get off the pod

541
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: on this one. You're gonna have to come get me

542
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: fast because I got a lot of options and I

543
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: want to come to you. You have a player that

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Speaker 1: I want to coach in the quarterback, a quarterback. They

545
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Speaker 1: would be the number one pick in this draft. And

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Speaker 1: as we saw today, there was like, you know, the

547
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Speaker 1: Patriots is need to lose against the Bills backups to

548
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Speaker 1: get the number one overall pick. You can never bank

549
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Speaker 1: on that, you know, in the NFL. But clearly I

550
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Speaker 1: think based on the statement that came out it was

551
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Speaker 1: very long from Robert Kraft. That thing was written yesterday.

552
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: This guy was fired before this game was ever played today.

553
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: And I'll say this about the Patriots because they showed

554
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Speaker 1: a list of all the one and done coaches. You

555
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: don't look at that list and go, yeah, they screwed

556
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, they would like to have that one

557
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Speaker 1: back all those guys.

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Speaker 2: It was the right move. We all know.

559
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Speaker 1: It's like this guy's just not good enough.

560
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: In Jerrod Mayo's case, unlike some of these other guys

562
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: like Urban Meyer, had no business in the NFL. Jim

563
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: tom Sulla was a position coach at most. Maybe Drod

564
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Speaker 1: Mayo if he coached longer and had more experience being

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Speaker 1: a position coach and a coordinator. Coached outside of the

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Speaker 1: Belichick umbrella, which, let's face it is an immediate, uh

567
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Speaker 1: you know, uh direction toward failure, right that they put

568
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: you on a track that goes right toward disaster if

569
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Speaker 1: you're under his umbrella. Josh McDaniels, I mean Flores was

570
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Speaker 1: a run out of town. Obviously the big boy in Detroit. Patricia.

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Speaker 1: I saw that Dan Campbell has more wins this season

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Speaker 1: than Matt Patricia's three seasons. But I will say this

573
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Speaker 1: about Robert Craft, and you never know with old guys.

574
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Speaker 2: Big egos, stubborn.

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Speaker 1: The older you get, like once you get my age,

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Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of different scenarios, like people try

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Speaker 1: to save relationships with children, People chase bad investments with

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Speaker 1: more money, and sometimes when the milk is spilled, you

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Speaker 1: just got to clean it up and move on. And

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Speaker 1: I think Robert Kraft and they knew this. And this

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Speaker 1: last month has been really, really bad. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing is when you have this quarterback, you can't afford

583
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Speaker 1: to screw it up. Now, all signs point to Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 1: I would expect Mike Rabel to be the next head coach.

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Speaker 1: He was just inducted into their Ring of Honor. He

586
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: is a very good relationship with this general manager. But

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Speaker 1: there was a report today that Elliott Wolf is going

588
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Speaker 1: to stay and one of the lists of Mike Rabel's

589
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: demands was having a working relationship with this general manager

590
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: and having a good, open line of communication with that individual.

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00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how that plays out. Maybe

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00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: that's not something that's set in stone, but I think

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Speaker 1: when the Patriots look, they go, this is not We're

594
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: not in a good direction under a guy that doesn't

595
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Speaker 1: know what he's doing.

596
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Speaker 2: And sometimes you.

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Speaker 1: Hire a guy who just doesn't know what he's doing.

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00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: You watch football long enough, we've seen it. Right, there

599
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: are guys that just have bad years and then just

600
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Speaker 1: go like, this is not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard. It is really, really difficult.

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Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time with you know,

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Speaker 1: people talking about Ben Johnson. He's the hot coordinator. The

604
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Speaker 1: likelihood that Ben Johnson is gonna be good as a

605
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: head coach is like under fifty to fifty. What he

606
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: has to deal with in Detroit is unlike anything he's

607
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with being the head coach. He

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Speaker 1: then with the GM run the draft. He then has

609
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Speaker 1: to deal with all the guys that get in trouble.

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Speaker 1: He then has to deal with guys pouting and are

611
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Speaker 1: pissed off on the opposite side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's his baby.

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Speaker 1: It is not apples to apples, right. You just hope

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Speaker 1: the guy has the leadership skills the ability to handle it.

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Speaker 1: And there's just a you know, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you just you never know until you get

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Speaker 1: put that seat, and most guys get exposed. And they

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Speaker 1: had a close working relationship with this guy because they

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Speaker 1: drafted him. He'd obviously been a close part of the

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Speaker 1: Patriot family as a player. Then he worked around New

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Speaker 1: England in the media, then they hired him as an

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Speaker 1: assistant coach, and Robert Craft said last year, I do

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Speaker 1: five years ago he's going to be the heir apparent

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00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: to the hoodie. And less than a year after making

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Speaker 1: him filling in the shoes for Bill Belichick, he's fired.

626
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Speaker 1: And now it looks like Mike Rabel's going to be

627
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Speaker 1: the guy that replaced the guy that replaced the guy.

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Speaker 1: And if you're Drake may hopefully this is as bad

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Speaker 1: as he gets, because let's face it, like it's not

630
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Speaker 1: like Gerard Mayo got an easy landing spot. The roster

631
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Speaker 1: was really bad. And then after the Drake Mate pick

632
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Speaker 1: Hibb and Elliott Wolf immediately screwed up the draft, like

633
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Speaker 1: they made a move that was disastrous, passing on Lad

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Speaker 1: McConkey for Polk, who was not good McMillan, and this

635
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Speaker 1: is what I said when they drafted him.

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Speaker 2: It was such a head scratcher.

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Speaker 1: It's like Polk was the guy, the third guy on

638
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: his own college team. But the Patriots now officially open,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Mike Vrabel buzz is going to

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Speaker 1: grow and grow and grow. Last night when the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and the points. Clearly I was wrong on the four

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Speaker 1: don't even think midway through the third quarter. Not sure

646
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Speaker 1: what the final score was, but it was flipped at

647
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Speaker 1: thirty one nothing. I think it went to thirty eight nothing.

648
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Not even sure if the Chiefs scored a point. That

649
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: was a complete ass kicking. And the Denver Broncos are

650
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, and what a big muscle flex

651
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: for the AFC West, not counting the Raiders they have

652
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: three coaches. I don't think any division in football could

653
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: take their three highest paid coaches and would get even

654
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: close to the number of Andy Reid, who's probably thinking

655
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: about twenty million, Sean Payton who's making eighteen, and Jim Harbaugh,

656
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: who's making sixteen seventeen million dollars.

657
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking.

658
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Fifty million dollars worth of coaching. Obviously, the Chiefs have

659
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: been the best team in the league for basically the

660
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: last half decade. The Chargers were joke boom. Jim Harbaugh

661
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: immediately in the playoffs the fifth seed. I haven't seen

662
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: the line. We'll talk about the playoffs a little bit later,

663
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: but I would imagine they're gonna be favored in that

664
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: game and the Broncos, who are probably gonna be wanted

665
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: done in the playoffs. Not a soul picked them to

666
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I mean, they're over under. It was

667
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: five and a half. So when we talk about this,

668
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: when you go cheap at coach, you are playing the

669
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Russian roulette of we could really suck, this could not

670
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: go well. When you pay Sean Payton eighteen million dollars

671
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: a year, your floor is really really high. There's no

672
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: guarantee you're gonna win a Super Bowl. Hell, there's no

673
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: guarante you're gonna win playoff games, but more than likely

674
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: after a couple of years, if you give him a

675
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: little power and juice to do what he wants to do,

676
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the mix. And when I say

677
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: in the mix, like the playoff mix. And as you

678
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: see by the lack of competitive teams this year, the

679
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: forty nine ers went six and eleven. They had the

680
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 1: worst season I can remember a long time.

681
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: It was atrocia. It just could get any worse. They

682
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: didn't even crack the top ten. That's how bad this year.

683
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: The shitty teams in the NFL were and Sean Payton

684
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: boom everyone, Oh the dead bunny bo Nick sucks playoffs, playoffs.

685
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: So this is you know, I think all eyes now

686
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: kind of go to the Raiders. Are they gonna stay

687
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: loyal to Antonio Pierce? They're in a division with a

688
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I mean, at the end of the day,

689
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: probably three Hall of famers, and Andy Reid might go

690
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: down as the best coach of all time. Jim Harbaugh

691
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: is easily on the short list of most versatile of

692
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: all time. And Sean Payton is one of the better

693
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: offensive minds of his generation. So it's like, yeah, you

694
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: can just keep doing this, you can keep chasing this

695
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: bad You're probably gonna keep getting yours kicked. And it

696
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: goes back to like I give the Crafts, like they

697
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: really liked him, they went with him. The only reason

698
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Mark Davis hired Antonio Pierce is because DeVante Adams, who's

699
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: no longer on the team and by the start of

700
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: this season wasn't even that high on Antonio Piers and

701
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Max Crosby said we want this guy hired last year,

702
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: and now Max Crosby has said throughout this season like

703
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: if we don't start winning, I'm gonna want out. So

704
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders got a lot of look in the mirror,

705
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, help us fix this because we are a

706
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: shit show. Chargers dominated them today. I thought the coolest

707
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: moment of the day was Mike Evans getting the thousand

708
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: yards late in the game at one point in time

709
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: when Baker shovels the ball to Bucky Irvin for the

710
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown, and the Bucks for about I would

711
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: say seventy five eighty percent of this game look like shit. Offensively,

712
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: it was like, are they gonna lose this game? Luckily

713
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons are going to Atlanta Falcon and last

714
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: year is like this told it never happened to us again.

715
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: They won seven games. They won eight this year. They

716
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: had an increase of one game year to year. Meanwhile,

717
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: they invested the eighth pick.

718
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: Who it's not. I'm not putting this on Michael Pennix.

719
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I like Michael Pennis and ninety million dollars to Kirk Cousins.

720
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: What an epic failure by the Atlanta Falcons. So even

721
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: if the Bucks had screwed around and lost that game,

722
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: they still would have won the division because Atlanta lost

723
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: in overtime to the fighting Bryce Youngs, who counted for

724
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: five touchdowns.

725
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Every other play. You looked at it, You're like, this

726
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: guy looks good.

727
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he had to be the game, the best

728
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: game of his career in the NFL. I don't even

729
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: think that would be debatable Barslow, but he was. He

730
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: was slicing and dicing. I think he threw three touchdowns,

731
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: he ran for a couple more. It just made him

732
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: unreal place. So I've been saying this for a while.

733
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Props to Bryce young for resurrecting his career and the

734
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: embarrassment that is the Atlanta Falcons, but the Bucks who

735
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: once they got rid of Brady, I mean, Brady retires,

736
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: it's like, what are they gonna do for them to

737
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: make the playoffs back to back years and win the

738
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: division back to back years with Baker Mayfield. What an

739
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: incredible job by Jason Light the general manager, Todd Bowles,

740
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: the coach obviously, Baker resurrecting his career. The Mike Evans

741
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: moment was just such a genuine, you know, kind of cool.

742
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: It was just awesome. You know, It's just one of

743
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: those things that made you smile. The whole stadium is

744
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: going bananas. The team's going bananas all for you know,

745
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: eleven straight years at one thousand yards a clip. And

746
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: this year obviously he had that bad hamstring injury on

747
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, missed several games.

748
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: So for him to do it was really really cool.

749
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: At one point in time, Jalen McMillan, the rookie wide

750
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: receiver who had an awesome touchdown, did this first down

751
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: celebration that I think the referees thought were two guns

752
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: and all he was doing was pointing for first down

753
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: and they called it a fifteen yard penalty. I mean

754
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: it started to think like one the penalty was egregious.

755
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: It was like, what are we doing? Like the fifteen

756
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: yard weapon penalty? I think is Honestly, it's one of

757
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: those things a lot like targeting, like probably should be scrapped.

758
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Like who's that for players? I would imagine the overwhelming

759
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: majority of players or gun owners. We've seen the demo

760
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: of football fans, they're all gun owner, Like who's anti

761
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: the guns?

762
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: The media that.

763
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Covers the league, like, what are we doing here?

764
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: And in what.

765
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: World do we make it subjective that the referee gets

766
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: to pick and choose what a weapon is and not

767
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: with your fucking fingers like sometimes the NFL and these

768
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: elitists in Park Avenue in New York are living in

769
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: fucking la la land, And this is one that feels

770
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: like it's jumped the shark. But luckily it didn't cost

771
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: him and cause again he was just pointing for a

772
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: first down, which at the time was a massive first down.

773
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: But that really got me fired up because I was like, listen,

774
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose it, okay, but to call in

775
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: this penalty in this situation when it wasn't even what

776
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: he was doing. Feels like we've kind of lost the

777
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: plot here and we got to rein this in because

778
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what this is for and what the

779
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: point of this whole thing, like what the endgame here

780
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: is to accomplish. But the Bucks will host a playoff

781
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: game and for the second straight year, and you know,

782
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: as long as you got now. They had some injuries

783
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: today as well, but Beggar threw a couple more touchdowns

784
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: and just just an awesome story. I mentioned this last night,

785
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I articulated it well enough

786
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: when I said that Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers

787
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: should get a.

788
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: Divorce, like it's time.

789
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like Mike Tomlin should go in the

790
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: unemployment You would trade Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is a

791
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: tradable asset, someone that might be able to get you

792
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: like a first round pick and a second round pick.

793
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: And like, I don't know how anyone can watch the

794
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and thinking like, oh, they're making progress, yet

795
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: Mike's value is really really high. Do you know what

796
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears would do for Mike Tomlin? And it

797
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: was well reported on all the morning shows by all

798
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: the Big Jays, like teams are gonna sniff around like

799
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: they did last year, but probably even more aggressively this year,

800
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: especially when Lamar Curb stomps the Steelers here in six

801
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: or seven days to trade for Mike Tomlin. The Bears

802
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: aren't getting Mike Vrabel, right, They're not getting Mike Vrabel.

803
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: Why not trade for Mike Tomlin? You talk about an

804
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: inspiring hire, a way to just get the fan base

805
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: back into this. Now, would you part with your top

806
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: ten pick? I sure think long and hard about it,

807
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: because these five and six win seasons, no matter how

808
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: much talent you have, sucks. And the one thing you know,

809
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Mike basically guarantees you, which is no longer like it's

810
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: not good enough for the Steelers anymore, just winning nine

811
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: ten games and never going under five hund Do you

812
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: know what the Chicago Bears would do to just every

813
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: year go ten and seven? So would they trade their

814
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: first round pick?

815
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: I would? I mean I would immediately.

816
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: What is the first round pick guarantee you anyway? So

817
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: I just think that and who knows, maybe it wouldn't

818
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: cost that much. Maybe you could get them for two seconds.

819
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

820
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Obviously there are several variables he'd have to want to

821
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: go there. But if the Steelers are like, listen, maybe

822
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: it's time that we do something dramatic. We've had three

823
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: coaches from one hundred years and we're just in kind

824
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: of in mud now. We're not going anywhere, we're not

825
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: making any progress, and we have this coach that still

826
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: has value. We don't necessarily want to fire them, but

827
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: maybe it is time for a change. And if you're

828
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: the Bears, you would drive to Pittsburgh and pick Mike

829
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: Tomlin up and hand them a couple of second round

830
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: picks immediately. So you know part of the thing, like

831
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: when you look at Sean Payton who quit on the Saints,

832
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: who said I quit and went to work in TV.

833
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: So when he wanted to come back to Denver, why

834
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: they had to give a first round pick, was like

835
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't like he was on the team, and like

836
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: what like that was? That was pretty messy. That was

837
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: pretty ugly, Like he basically told the Saints, yeah, I'm

838
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: short in your organization. I think you're gonna suck. This

839
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: thing's gonna fall apart. I don't care what he wants

840
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: to say, like, we just have to be real about this.

841
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: And I want out.

842
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't blame him, like even though he was a

843
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: huge part of the reason they were in that scenario,

844
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: but the Mike Tomlin thing is definitely gonna be less messy.

845
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: But I don't see how you.

846
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Wouldn't entertain them, and like if you're the Steelers, like

847
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: if you're Ben Johnson, you should be all over, Like, hey,

848
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: I'd go to Pittsburgh. I go be their head coach

849
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: if I if I'm finally going to take a chance

850
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: on a spot like that that makes sense, and then

851
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: we try to go get a quarterback. We found found

852
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: out today that the Tennessee Titans, once Girodmeo wins the game,

853
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: then gets fired before he even leaves the building. He

854
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: ruined the Patriots top pick chances. Obviously that went out

855
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: the window. The Titans lose and they get the number

856
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: one overall pick. I have a saft spot for Nashville, Tennessee.

857
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting married there in a couple months. I think

858
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: it's an incredible place if you are the top pick one,

859
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: if you're Shdor Sanders or cam Ward, which I would

860
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: imagine is going to be one of the quarterbacks, maybe

861
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Drew Aller. I guess if he has a couple more

862
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: good games and comes out, you're gonna make thirty eight

863
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: to forty million dollars. And it's a no state income

864
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: tax state. So if you had gone to New York,

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Speaker 1: for example, like you end up paying fifty five percent

866
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Speaker 1: of the government. You're a minority stakeholder in your own

867
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Speaker 1: NFL contract, So you go to the Titans because all

868
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: these teams suck. You are a majority stakeholder in your

869
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: own contracts. Like, that's kind of a big deal when

870
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: you're talking these astronomical amounts of money and people a midical,

871
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Speaker 1: why do always talk about taxes, because when you're talking

872
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Speaker 1: about millions of hell, you can be talking about hundreds

873
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: of thousand of dollars. Kind of important and kind of

874
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: makes a big deal. And I think the Titans, whenever

875
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: they're well run, man, they're sleeping giants, a place people

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Speaker 1: want to play. And like I said, this no state

877
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: income tax is a really really big deal. Also, that

878
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: division sucks. So we'll see who they draft, I would imagine.

879
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Speaker 1: I mean, as of right now, it'd have to be

880
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: one of the of the top two guys, but who knows. Uh,

881
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: the Browns, you know. Finally, I think they're gonna be

882
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: in a tough spot because if they take whatever quarterback

883
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Speaker 1: the Titans don't take, do you want Deshaun Watson around

884
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: that guy.

885
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: At that point?

886
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: Like, if you are comfortable with taking one of those

887
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, I think you have to cut to Shan Watson.

888
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: The toxicity of a situation, I just think you would

889
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: all almost have to eat it a lot like the

890
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos did. And clearly it's a lot more punitive

891
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: in terms of the numbers we're talking because they're way

892
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: bigger than Russell's. But I don't think you could have

893
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: him around that guy, And I don't think you could

894
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: have him hovering around that situation. The negativity that surrounds

895
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: the player. Obviously on the field, he's just horrific. I mean,

896
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: he's the worst quarterback in the NFL, and then just

897
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: everything hovering around him off the field and the wake

898
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: the questions come around him. What it puts, the stress,

899
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Speaker 1: it puts on your locker room. So I would guess

900
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: if they are thinking about and I mean it's way

901
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: too early in the process, but if they end up

902
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: going quarterback. Then Deshaun Watson would not be on the

903
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty five and they will just have

904
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: one of the biggest dead cap situations in like the history.

905
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Speaker 2: Of the league.

906
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: And other than that, I want to end on this.

907
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got his five hundredth and I think five

908
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: hundredth and first touchdown, and there there was this tweet

909
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: going around last week that a lot of people I

910
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: heard reference and it was funny that, you know, the

911
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Jets getting Aaron Rodgers at forty is a lot like

912
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: you hooking up with your high school crush at forty

913
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: years old. The only problem is she's divorced, she has

914
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: four kids, and she's miserable. And the pushback I'd have

915
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: like when I was younger, young, I'm might a ran

916
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: with a couple of divorces, Like they can blow your

917
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: mind and it can be a lot of fun. Just

918
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: because she has four kids doesn't mean it can't be incredible,

919
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, inside the bedroom, the Aaron Rodgers I would

920
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: say experience was awful, Like it didn't get any worse.

921
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: So I would not compare him to a forty year

922
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: old divorce a with four kids. I would compare him

923
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Speaker 1: to a single person who's a really big weirdo at

924
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: forty years old, and it was just bad because you

925
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: build up in your own mind how great it's gonna be,

926
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: and I think any guy has done this over the years,

927
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: and then if you ever get to hook up with

928
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Speaker 1: that person and under.

929
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: Delivers, you're like, that was what a waste.

930
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Of my mind energy? And I think there's a sports

931
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: element to this when it comes to Aaron Rodgers, because

932
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: the moment you trade and get Aaron Rodgers and go,

933
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: we got Aaron freaking Rogers, this is gonna be awesome.

934
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: Even if we don't win the Super Bowl, we'll just

935
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: rattle off a couple ten win seasons, will be in

936
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs, We'll just be We'll just be playing in

937
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: real important games. And then you look up today and

938
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: they're playing the Miami Dolphins backup quarterback, and you're like,

939
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: what are why are we doing this? What is the point?

940
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: How did this happen to us? How did we get

941
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: stuck with this?

942
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: How?

943
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: And my guest, right now, as we sit here on

944
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: January fifth, I would say it's probably under fifty percent

945
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: he plays next year, and I would say it's a

946
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: very very small percentage chance that.

947
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: He's on the Jets. You say, he doesn't want to

948
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: go out like that. Who wants to go out?

949
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: It's not usually the way the NFL works. You know,

950
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: no one ever wants to go out on a negative note.

951
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to go out on a high note and

952
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: play in their best football. Most guys are kind of

953
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: forced out. That's usually the way it works in the NFL.

954
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: Remember Peyton Manning didn't want to quit. No one would

955
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: call him back like that happened, and Aaron Rodgers when

956
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: you factor in all the other stuff, but I in

957
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: a weird way looking up at that game and watching him,

958
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, throw this triple pass back to DeVante and

959
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: watch Davonte just get absolutely crushed by a dB. You

960
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: went like this, this is sports most of my life.

961
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: An old legendary player. The final year of his career

962
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: is just a disaster. And you can quote the stats

963
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: all you want. He had some moments in individual games,

964
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Speaker 1: most of them turned out to be losses. But when

965
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Speaker 1: the Jets traded for one of the greatest quarterbacks of

966
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: all time, they did not expect this. A year where

967
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: their coach was fired, their general manager was fired, and

968
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Speaker 1: by the end of the season, Aaron Rodgers going back

969
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: and forth on a weekly basis, basically taking shots at ownership.

970
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, probably inside Green

971
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: Bay would say, yeah, not totally shocked that we ended

972
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: up this way. And I just think you got to

973
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: be very very careful when you get older players to

974
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: get your hopes too high, because sometimes when your hopes

975
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: are too high, you get Aaron Rodgers on the Jets.

976
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Speaker 1: The volume