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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Everybody, Tuesday November.

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Speaker 1: It's straight fire. It's me Jason McIntyre. Very excited about

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Speaker 1: today's show. We have an amazing guest coming up, Fran

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Speaker 1: for Shila. He's an announcer, he's a former coach, he's

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Speaker 1: an NBA draft guru. I love everything about Fran for Shila,

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Speaker 1: and we talked extensively about the draft. We did a

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Speaker 1: little James Harden chatter as well, because, as you guys know,

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Speaker 1: he's on the trade block, um demanding out of Houston

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Speaker 1: and um stick and stay for that. We will quickly

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Speaker 1: touch on Monday Night Football, then do oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, five ten minutes on the craziness that

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Speaker 1: was Monday Night in the NBA. Let's start the show

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Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears. The unwatchable drek that the Bears

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Speaker 1: produced on Monday Night Football, Holy kel Nick Foles in

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Speaker 1: the offense was unwatchable. They could move the football. They

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Speaker 1: had a hundred and forty nine total yards in the game,

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Speaker 1: three point oh yards per play against a bottom ten

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Speaker 1: that's been They couldn't stop anybody all season and the

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Speaker 1: Bears can't even move the football. I mean, the Bears

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Speaker 1: offensive line was in shambles. They don't talk fulls getting

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Speaker 1: destroyed out there, and then he gets wrecked on the

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Speaker 1: final drive, carded off the field. It looked bad for

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Speaker 1: his shoulder. Tyler break came in. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: up with Mr Robinski, um, but if it's the Tyler

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Speaker 1: Bred Show, you can't bet on the Chicago Bears. This

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Speaker 1: team is going down fast. They've lost four straight. It

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Speaker 1: was funny when they were five and one, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob g we should run back to when they were

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Speaker 1: I think they were four and one or five and one,

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Speaker 1: most fraudulent four and one or five and one team?

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Speaker 1: And it was like the Chicago Bears for sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: us very very obvious that they were headed downhill. They're terrible.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I got to say. They lost me

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Speaker 1: the best bet. They cost me some money and that's that.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to the NBA and folks, it felt

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Speaker 1: like July one on Monday night in the NBA. The

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Speaker 1: my phone just starts lighting up because you know, like

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Speaker 1: your friends want to text you. Holy cow, And all

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Speaker 1: anybody wanted to talk about was, oh my gosh, look

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Speaker 1: at the NBA. Everybody's on the move. So we'll cover

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Speaker 1: the three big trades and then we'll get to James

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Speaker 1: harden Um. I think we'll do Chris Paul third. He

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Speaker 1: of the night belongs to the Milwaukee Bucks. Everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: say today they're the winners. They're going all in for

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Speaker 1: j Honice and who can blame them? They made a

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Speaker 1: pretty big uh decision to a give up a ton

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Speaker 1: I'm not being negative towards Drew Holiday. It's just a

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Speaker 1: so no doubt about that. Nobody would argue that obviously

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Speaker 1: getting Drew Holidays a big one, and then they compounded matter, saying, yo, Janice,

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Speaker 1: this is where we're at. Forget about depth. Death doesn't

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Speaker 1: win in the NBA, Stars win in the NBA. And

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Speaker 1: they went out and I don't know that i'd called

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Speaker 1: this a heist, but the Sacramento Kings who have had

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Speaker 1: issues with um, you know, the Buddy Healed situation there,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep Buddy Healed because he's chirping and Bugdanovitch

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Speaker 1: But the Bucks are now looking at a starting lineup. Okay,

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Speaker 1: on paper, do they have the advantage over the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: I think it's close. You know, if you break down

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. The Miami Heat already proved that

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, I think it's more honest. Look, we're going

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough. Is this enough? Ultimately? My guess

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Speaker 1: go to the second big trade, and again I'm saving

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul for third. I think bigger than Drew Holiday.

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Speaker 1: It was swallowed by the Drew Holiday and the draft

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Speaker 1: sure people are like, Jay, what are you doing? Robert Covington? Really,

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Speaker 1: Damian Loder is really good. And yeah, they're upper and

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Speaker 1: Let's now get to the third trade, which you know,

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Speaker 1: this one. I just don't know what to make of it.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul going to Phoenix in you know, a time

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Speaker 1: Rob g again, does this make the the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 1: the world care about. You know, we're worried about finding

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Speaker 1: a vaccine for the virus, and yet I happen to

423
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Speaker 1: use an orange basketball to have made my living for

424
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Speaker 1: a long time. It's cool. I love it. And you're

425
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Speaker 1: both your kids are like in sub level coaching or

426
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Speaker 1: involved in the NBA or college basketball, right. Yeah, James

427
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: is in Orlando with the Magic in the on the

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Speaker 1: video staff. And then my son Matt, who played for

429
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Speaker 1: Tommy Amaker at Harvard. I thought he'd be at Wall

430
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Speaker 1: Street by now, but that that clown decided he wanted

431
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Speaker 1: to go to get into coaching, and he got his

432
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: NBA from billing Ova and he's with Jay Wright and uh,

433
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Speaker 1: you know both of those guys. I'm sure the last

434
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Speaker 1: name had something to do with it, but it is

435
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Speaker 1: the fact that those two guys are grinders and they

436
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Speaker 1: wanted to be around a game that they grew up loving.

437
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Speaker 1: And uh, I'm proud of both of them because I

438
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with either guy being where they are. Yeah, well,

439
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: speaking of grinders, you're you're the guy. I mean, I've

440
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: always loved and respected your stuff, and you know, we've

441
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: known each other for a little while. Um, and I

442
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: felt like with the draft this week, it's one of

443
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Speaker 1: those weird drafts, friend, because you know, it's it's been

444
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: so analyzed, given the truncated college basketball season, the NBA bubble,

445
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: we're now what five months later than the draft normally happens.

446
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Speaker 1: How do you overall handicap this draft when you look

447
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: at it. I think it's a good draft, I I do.

448
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: I think it's a smoke and mirrors draft. I think, uh,

449
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: because of the length of time that people have had

450
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Speaker 1: to over over analyze. Okay, and we say people were

451
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Speaker 1: talking people outside of the actual thirty teams and any

452
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Speaker 1: of us who's got a podcast, who's got a blog,

453
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Speaker 1: who's on radio, TV, WE and and who loved the

454
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Speaker 1: game like you and I do. We've all over analyzed

455
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Speaker 1: this and I think this year it's a year where

456
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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the top of the draft. I

457
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Speaker 1: think there's some guys that could actually busts. At the

458
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: same time, I call it a smoke and mirrors draft.

459
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: There are kids that are gonna be taken. Well, I'll

460
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: put it this way. There are kids that are in

461
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Speaker 1: mock drafts in the thirties twenties teams that I think

462
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: NBA teams have pegged even higher than that. And I think, like,

463
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. Um, I say this humbly, but

464
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: if I tweet out something about Jalen Smith in February,

465
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: sometimes he moves up like ten spots and somebody's mock draft,

466
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Speaker 1: you know. And and part of it is because I've

467
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: I've spent my whole life studying basketball. I used my eyes.

468
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm not always right. I'm probably right of the time

469
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Speaker 1: like most people who evaluate these kids do. But yeah,

470
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Speaker 1: I think there's kids in this draft. I mean, all

471
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden you figured out that Sadiq Bacon play.

472
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: It took you a whole season, you know, what I mean,

473
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: Like I was screaming about Eric Pascal last year and

474
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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson the year before. Um Isaiah Stewart. Now here's

475
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Speaker 1: a guy, Okay that when he was told he was

476
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Speaker 1: not when he was told that zeke Na Jolly was

477
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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve freshman of the year. Uh. The next

478
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: game was in the PAC twelve tournament, and Isaiah went

479
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Speaker 1: out and get twenty nine and fourteen. Okay, and and

480
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Speaker 1: and he knows on Yaka kong Wu, who he sort

481
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Speaker 1: of dominated this year in the PAC twelve, who I like,

482
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be a fine player. But all

483
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got Isaiah Stewart in the team

484
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Speaker 1: in the thirties and oh, by the way, they just

485
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: measured him. He's got a seven five wingspan. And remember

486
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: he was a top five high school player. So my

487
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: point is like, let's not over analyze that. Some of

488
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: these guys have been hiding right in front of us

489
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Speaker 1: the whole time. So where are you on Stewart? Because

490
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: the NBA's kind of pivoted away from Biggs at the

491
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: top of the draft. We've seen some of the big

492
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: struggle with the learning curve. Obviously, Bam out of bio

493
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Speaker 1: is not one of the I do have montdraft for

494
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports. I don't have Stewart in the first round.

495
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Speaker 1: Uh it seems like I'm glaring a mission. Are we talking?

496
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Speaker 1: Is he a fringe lottery guy twenties? I'm here, I'm

497
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Speaker 1: telling you, I'm hearing that he's gonna end end up going.

498
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where. I'll tell you where he should go,

499
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Speaker 1: which is perfect and your laugh when I tell you

500
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Speaker 1: he's a Miami heat guy. Oh at twenty, I mean

501
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: he's a Miami Heat guy. I mean he's a first

502
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Speaker 1: of all, Um, he's a great kid. Chip on his shoulder.

503
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: He's always been along with Wiseman and and maybe Verne

504
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Speaker 1: and Carry, they were the three dominant high school big

505
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: man forever right and and people liked each of them

506
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more than one of the others. Well,

507
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah Stewart didn't get worse. He just played on a

508
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: bad team this year, and and and now. He's under

509
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Speaker 1: sized at six nine, but the seven five wingspan, high

510
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Speaker 1: motor he's He's showing an ability in these workouts to

511
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: knock down perimeter shots, which is likely not his role early. Okay,

512
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: as a Butt. Same thing with Bam first couple of

513
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: years in Miami. What did he do? Rebounded, set screens,

514
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: guarded on the perimeter, ran the floor. Um, So, anyway,

515
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Speaker 1: I'm an Isaiah Stewart fan. Count me in. I think

516
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Speaker 1: he goes in the top twenty picks. All right, where

517
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: are you one Wiseman versus okung Wu? For for for

518
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: me just personally in Again, you've analyzed much deeper. I

519
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: have questions about Wiseman. Um, but again the body of

520
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: work three college basketball? You know what what the seven

521
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: ft are gonna do in a AU. He's just gonna

522
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: dump cut everybody. Yeah, I don't know. What do you

523
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: think about Wiseman? Well? Was that? I always respect your opinion,

524
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: which is why I like these conversations. Um, had he

525
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: played instead of sixty nine minutes three sixty nine minutes

526
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Speaker 1: this past year, I think he would be consensus number

527
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Speaker 1: one pick in this draft. In fact, I still think

528
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Speaker 1: Minnesota who is not sure what to do? Trust men, Yeah,

529
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: they're trying to trade the pick. They're they're they're worried

530
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards being mature enough to step in. James

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Speaker 1: Wiseman to me at seven ft one, Jason is a

532
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: freak of nature. Seven five wingspan, moves his feet, runs

533
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Speaker 1: the floor. If if Golden State cannot trade for a

534
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: gold mine of assets, he he should thank his lucky

535
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: stars if the Warriors take him, because he will play

536
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Speaker 1: with three Hall of famers. He he runs, he jumps,

537
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: he catches lobs which, by the way, he's a supersized

538
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: version of JaVale McGee. Then in Golden State, and he's

539
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: a great kid. And the only thing we don't know

540
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: about him is we knew how good he was coming

541
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Speaker 1: into college. I watched him at the Nike Hoops Summit,

542
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: but we're all guessing because we only had three games

543
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: in sixty nine minutes. The guy I remember, man, I

544
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: said this at the night Nike Hoops Summit. I could

545
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: be wrong. Um, he reminded me of David Robinson. He

546
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: reminded me of a young David Robinson, seven ft one

547
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: left hander, runs like a deer. Not the David Robinson

548
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: we remember at the end of fifteen years. But I'm

549
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: old enough to remember the young David Robinson. The Navy

550
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: coach against them, coach against him. Yeah, So anyway, Um,

551
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Speaker 1: I love a Kong Wru, but I just think James Wiseman,

552
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: there's something there that he could be an a white

553
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: NBA player for a long time. Carl Anthony Towns gives

554
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: the vibe that he's like, I want to be Anthony Davis.

555
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to be center. And so what I'm

556
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Speaker 1: assuming Wiseman works next to well, here's what I think. Um,

557
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: if you remember, for about a half a season, Cousins

558
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: and Davis worked pretty well. The two bigs. Okay, now

559
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: the injuries and everything, you have to be If I'm

560
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: if I'm Gerson Ross and I'm not sure about LaMelo

561
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: balln I'll get into LaMelo in a second. But if

562
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not sure about Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball,

563
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm taking James Wiseman with the idea that I've got

564
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: two cornerstones in Russell and Towns. Cat likes to play

565
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: on the perimeter as much as he likes to post um.

566
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: James can guard uh smaller guys because of his athleticism.

567
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I roll the dice there because if they don't win

568
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: in the next two years, Cat's gonna want out anyway.

569
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, It's just how it is. And you know

570
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: what people don't understand about the superstars in the league.

571
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Is their business partners with the owners, Like if Lebron

572
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: says we want it, we want uh Ray gion Rondo,

573
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna get, you know, and and and

574
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: and so if Cat in two years says I'm out,

575
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: they'll trade him and they'll try to pick up more assets.

576
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: That's why I take Wiseman. If I'm Minnesota, I don't

577
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: think they will. I think they'll take Anthony Edwards, who

578
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: is the one of the youngest players in the draft,

579
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: and he does fit positionally at the two spot with

580
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: d'An angelo with the big fella up front, so that

581
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: makes sense. But uh, Tommy creen and I are very close. Um,

582
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I know what D'Angelo is about. He's a mindbacker playing guard,

583
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: which is good. He's an elite athlete. Um, just the

584
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: physical and mental maturity of an eighteen or not. He's

585
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: only nineteen. He just turned nineteen in August. So that's

586
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: the one thing I worry about what Anthony is is

587
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: he is he gonna figure it out in time? I mean,

588
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: you're you're basically giving up on defense in the back court.

589
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: Though with Edwards and Russell right, I do we know

590
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Edwards great athlete. But yeah, I don't want to say

591
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: allergic to defense, but he didn't seem to play a

592
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: lot last year. Well he's not as allergic as as

593
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: LaMelo is, but but I do think that you know,

594
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: I saw him have a block shot in uh In

595
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: Maui that just took the block shot, and you know

596
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: that second half he was phenomenal. But yeah, I mean, listen,

597
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I say this about all young players. I get it.

598
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Williams is a great defender. Ocora is a great

599
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: This guy. No, eight of the ten guys going into

600
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: in the first ten picks cannot play NBA defense. They

601
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: have to be taught it. So yeah, does does Patrick

602
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: Williams of o'corral have a little more to work with?

603
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Does Isaac have a little more? Yes? Bruce Pearl pushed

604
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: him a little more. Yes, But most of these guys

605
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: come into the league and they don't know NBA defense

606
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: and they have to be caught it. It seems like

607
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the learning curve is do you want

608
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: to learn? Because Bam didn't come in and wasn't instantly.

609
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: We saw in the NBA playoffs people think, oh, he's amazing. Well,

610
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: it took a few years and Jonathan Isaac in Orlando

611
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: was maybe the defensive player of the Year in the

612
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: league this year, and it's like, keep what he didn't

613
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: come into the league like that. Do you want to learn?

614
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: Which brings us to LaMelo Ball? Do you think he

615
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: wants to buy in and learn or is he all

616
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: about his Instagram page and highlights And depends on what

617
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: team he goes to. If he goes to Golden State,

618
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: he'll have to learn. If he goes to if he

619
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: if he slides, is not this is not out of

620
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. Now, if he slides to eight

621
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: in New York, Yeah, if he slides slid if he said,

622
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: here's what I think is gonna happen um the team

623
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: that if if he doesn't go one, I think he's

624
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: going three or eight because I think Chicago CHICAO, I

625
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: think I And the only reason I think he goes

626
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: three is because the Hornets need life, they need energy,

627
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: they need something to talk about. And so I think

628
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: LaMelo might fit there because he is a great passer

629
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: and a six seven point guard. And maybe he is

630
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Jason kidd Um. I don't think he is, but maybe,

631
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he gives you that an excitement early.

632
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, again, there's things about his game I don't like.

633
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: It's not his personality because I think he's a good kid.

634
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this brand regarding Charlotte. Okay, they've

635
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: got two guards in Rosier and Graham, two guys who

636
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: were dogs to get where They are very underrated. I

637
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: don't even know if Graham was drafted, and we know

638
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: scary Terry in Boston was basically willing to fight anybody.

639
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Are they gonna mesh with LaMelo ball who? I don't

640
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: know if he has a dog. I don't know if

641
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: he has a dog either. I I saw DeVante for

642
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: four years in the Big twelve, and he's got dog.

643
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Now here's a deal. It's a good backcourt, okay, it's

644
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: it's not an elite backcourt. Um DeVante made a huge

645
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: jump this year. Terry Rosier and his career has been solid, right,

646
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: moments of brilliance, but really just a solid player. So no,

647
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: if if Michael Jordan's uh feels that LaMelo can upgrade

648
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: their team backcourt, remember you're not talking about a team

649
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: with five guys. You need nine or ten. So I

650
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: think both of those guys would fit with LaMelo if

651
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: that's the way they go, um, I wouldn't be surprised

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: if they do pass up on LaMelo that they take

653
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: a guy like a Kongo. That's why you're hearing the

654
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: noise about them trying to trade up to one to

655
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: get that pick because they love Wiseman apparently. Okay, so

656
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: let's let's let's break down this slide. So if Lamello

657
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: doesn't go three, both who have a new GM h

658
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: the guy from Denver tourist Karnis He's seen the Hall guy,

659
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: right he is? I coached against him? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I remember that p J. Yeah, the final four against Michigan.

661
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he came after he came out. You're thinking of

662
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Gays from Australia, Yes, but already already are tourist

663
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: came a little bit after and uh you know, and

664
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: and certainly you know it was a great player in

665
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Europe and it's it's going to be a good GM. Um.

666
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: So any idea what he may want to do for

667
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: the Bulls, Well, I don't think he would take Denny

668
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: Avvia because of the international connection, although they had that

669
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: in Denver, right, they did a great job in Denver

670
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: with Nurkics first and Ki and you know a couple

671
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: other guys. No, I I think that backcourt with Kobe White, um,

672
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn has become a solid player. He's you know,

673
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: he's not what he was when he was drafted so high,

674
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: but he's solid. I you know, marketing, we're not sure

675
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: about whether he's on the block. I've heard that Denny

676
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: Avdya is a safe pick there for them. Yeah, yeah,

677
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: that sounds about right. So then, you know, I suppose

678
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: we could see You're right. LaMelo falling to eight now

679
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: LaMelo in New York feels like a bit of a

680
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: train wreck. I gotta be honest leadership questions. You know,

681
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: we know they got a new front office there, the

682
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: owners of Nightmare. You're hearing Russell Westbrooks stuff that would

683
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: be a bad fit for LaMelo. I mean, I'm sure

684
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: his father would love it. Yeah, well, you know, it

685
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: depends on how well Leon Rose and his crew evaluate

686
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, because like you know, like I

687
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: I I'll be honest. I have a lot of friends

688
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: in the league, and I have utmost respect for most

689
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: of the people in this league. But I do hear

690
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: horror stories about the lack of preparation on so whatever. No,

691
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I I think he's likely to go to Charlotte and

692
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: we can end it there. But if not, like I,

693
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Detroit would make sense. But I hear, I hear they

694
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: love Patrick Williams. Interesting Patrick. All Right, so let's hear

695
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: some of the some risers that you may know about

696
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: a guy I asked you about before the podcast, Desmond Bane.

697
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: I know a couple of trainers out here in l

698
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: A who have been raving about this kid. Uh, he

699
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't get a ton of hype in college, but I

700
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: guess through this process he's really enhanced his chances. Well.

701
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: I love Desmond as a kid. He's an amazing story. Um,

702
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: you know only major offer was TCU. You ready for this?

703
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Raised by his great grandparents, not his grandparents, His great

704
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: grandparents raised him at a Richmond, Indiana. So I've watched

705
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Desmond from the day he got the TCU. Um, I'm

706
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: really happy for him because he's rising beyond my expectations.

707
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: I had Desmond picked as as pegged as a end

708
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: of roster maybe rotation guy that would mean like second round.

709
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: But I hear, I hear the buzz, and what he

710
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: does is he's a great open shooter. Um, he's not

711
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: an alpha dog, which is kind of interesting because at

712
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: TCU as a senior, even though he was one of

713
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: the best players in the Big twelve, they needed him

714
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: to be a ball hog and that's just not how

715
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: he plays. So actually, his value to an NBA team

716
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: may be enhanced by the fact that he fits in

717
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: because he's a great shooter. He's a competitor. He's small,

718
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: he's only got a six four wingspan, but attitude, character, work, ethic,

719
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: competitiveness off the charts. Just not a super supersized NBA

720
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: athlete and at six ft four I'm thrilled for him

721
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: if he goes in the first round, because he deserves it.

722
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't have him that high. Okay, let's uh. I

723
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: want your thoughts. Tyler Hero and Duncan Robinson really were

724
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: incredible in the playoffs for the Heat. Duncan Robinson, I mean,

725
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: what a story that guy is. Are there any guys

726
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: of that level who you can see in this draft?

727
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Maybe a GM says, you know what, we need a

728
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson or Tyler Hero, someone who other people aren't seeing.

729
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyler Hero looks like that guy. Should have

730
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: gone top five right year he had. But here's the

731
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: interesting thing about that. Um, let's let's let's analyze this.

732
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Not all player development in the NBA has created equal Okay,

733
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: we're talking, Oh he's up the Oh yeah, Cleveland just

734
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: hired a new player development staff or you know, Milwaukee

735
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: just hired this guy's a great player development guy. Yeah,

736
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Uh no, seriously, because not everybody

737
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: is equally Like, not everybody's Jerry West picking picking players.

738
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: Not everybody is. Let's just say, uh, you know Nick

739
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: Nurse as a coach, just using Nick as an example,

740
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: he's the hot coach right now. Um and saving with

741
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: player development. So in Miami, what you're looking at is

742
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: an amazing job that they did, not only with those

743
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: two guys, how about Kendrick Nunn. Yeah you know, so

744
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: I give those guys credit in Miami. Um so you know,

745
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: here's a guy that probably I don't know if he

746
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: fits exactly that mold, but I like to break stereotypes,

747
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: right because you just mentioned two white guys. Okay, and

748
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: like I remember Mark Jones and I at the combine

749
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: one year, Pat Connaughton had to high as vertical and

750
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm making this up out the air, I said, Jones,

751
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: And you told me at breakfast this morning he was

752
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: the most athletic guy here, right, because you know that's

753
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: a throwaway line of people go, this kid is an athlete.

754
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: So here's what I'll tell you who I think is underrated,

755
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: Cashus Stanley from Duke. Oh see, he jumps out of

756
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: the gym. He was an eight YouTube sensation and he's

757
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: been hiding in plain sight. He played a duke this year,

758
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: probably averaged twelve points a game. Great athlete, that's not

759
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: why he'll play in the league. Good shooter too, with

760
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: a chance to be a great three point shooter. And

761
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: what I what I liked about him this year is

762
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: he had defensive awareness. He wasn't afraid to get down

763
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: and dirty. And that kid is likely not going in

764
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: the first round. Um I would, I would pay him

765
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: as a as a like a twenty to thirty guy.

766
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: But I like cash Is Stanley. I like him more

767
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: than all these other guys that the mock drafts have,

768
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: like my buddy Desmond Baine, who you know everybody now

769
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: is suddenly flavor of the month. You know, got him.

770
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean I had one one month draft had him

771
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: a twelve, Desmond being oh that's a little high, that's

772
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: a little real. But again, you know this game, Fran,

773
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the agents have influence. He started reaching

774
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: out to people and the trainers and they it's almost

775
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: like a cottage industry. Now, like, can you work over

776
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: the media and get them to pump up your guy?

777
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Don't don't be surprised. There have been people in the past.

778
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: I will they will go to name us who do

779
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: these things, these mock drafts who take money from agents.

780
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, that's yeah, oh yeah no, but see that's fine.

781
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's my point, Like I I what

782
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: what makes me feel good sometimes because I don't get

783
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: these right fifty percent of the time. Nobody does. Yeah,

784
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: of course, of course. But what I do is I'll say,

785
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: am I wrong on so and so? To an NBA team. Now,

786
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: don't worry about the mock drafts. We got this kid,

787
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: pig like fourteen. You know, I'll give you another kid,

788
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: zeke Na Jolly at Arizona. Yeah, yeah, I don't know

789
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: him that well. Well, you know, early in the season

790
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: he was the flavor of November last year, seven foot nearly.

791
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: I think he's measured it. He might have measured at

792
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: six eleven long wingspan, defensive toughness. Um can play away.

793
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: It's going to be able to stretch the floor like

794
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: a Channing Fry, to use an Arizona guy as an example.

795
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: And I don't see him very rarely in anybody's top thirty.

796
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple of teams and who said,

797
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody you know, we got him. We got

798
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: him here, you know. So that's that's kind of what

799
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I like to do, because um, I don't like to

800
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: do mock drafts myself because I know it's so contingent

801
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: on trades and and and fits and uh and what

802
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: I think is the talent, Like like I if I

803
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: if I were the Knicks, I take Sa deep Bay

804
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: and call it a day. You know. Yeah, well that's

805
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I want an NBA player at eight.

806
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to mystify pet. Yeah,

807
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't want Alexei Pokachevski who's two years away for

808
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: being two days away. You know, seriously, I haven't used

809
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: that line in but like he's the he'm I watched him.

810
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: You can't put him in an NBA game for a while,

811
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: and so to use Sadik as an example. And I'm

812
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: a little biased because of my Villanova connection, but I'll

813
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: tell you what you gotta do. And this is true

814
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: in all decision making in life. You gotta take your

815
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: bias out of things. And I have to tell myself,

816
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: do you just like Sadik because you know how Jalen

817
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: and Pascal and DiVincenzo have done, and Josh Hart and

818
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: your son's coaching there. And I say no. I I

819
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: watched him on film all last weekend and I'm like,

820
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: holy crap, are you kidding me? You can put him.

821
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Even if he's never an All Star, He's gonna be

822
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: a fourth or fifth starter on a good team. And

823
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: so that's how I look at it, Like, give me

824
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: Sadik bay in New York. We suck. We need players,

825
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: We need more draft fix, we need tips to coach

826
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: him up. We need r J to get a jump

827
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: jump shot. We got Mitchell Robinson, maybe they got nobody else. Yeah,

828
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: um fry. I want to pivot away from the draft

829
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: before we get to one NBA question. I gotta ask this,

830
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: so you know this pandemic, it's seven months of crap. Essentially,

831
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm out here in California and kids sports are completely

832
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: shut down. So you know, we started a rogue basketball

833
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: game for my fourth grade son and second grade daughter,

834
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: and it's like a pickup game. A couple of dads

835
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: are like, listen, we'll wear masks, We'll let the kids play,

836
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: will do temperature checks. I'm just curious. A lot of

837
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: kids have the potential to fall behind right now in

838
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: youth sports, given what's going on. And as a former coach,

839
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: you know you've got two kids who you raise great basketball.

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Speaker 1: What advice would you give dads is we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of dads listening right now to keep the kids

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Speaker 1: into sports so they don't just sit in front of

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Speaker 1: a screen all the damn time, or play video games

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Speaker 1: eight hours a day, and anything you could say to

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Speaker 1: get them out there. Yeah, it's a great question, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a really good question. I think, first of all,

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Speaker 1: one of the things I enjoyed with my sons when

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Speaker 1: we were younger, when they were younger, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: once five eleven, once five ten, they both played college basketball,

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Speaker 1: but they were they were gym rats. They weren't great athletes.

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Speaker 1: Um one of the things I would do is get

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Speaker 1: them out of the how else, get him on the playground.

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Speaker 1: If you got a gym, you can go too great.

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Speaker 1: And I'm using basketball as an example, but for all schools.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is this, um, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: teaching your kids the games sports, no more than seventy

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Mike, don't be the dad it's out there

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Speaker 1: five hours. Okay. To me, it was always about seventy

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Speaker 1: five minutes because I wanted to develop a love of

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Speaker 1: the game from for my boys and not a drudgery. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so are My thing was seventy five minutes and they

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Speaker 1: come on, Dad, stay a little longer. Now, you guys

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Speaker 1: stay in the gym. I'll come back and get you,

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Speaker 1: or tell your friends to come over. I'll work them out.

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Speaker 1: Then you can play three on three. So I think

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Speaker 1: the one thing is some some dads right now who

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Speaker 1: love sports are going, oh great, you know we're we're

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Speaker 1: doing the virtual schooling. So I got all this time

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Speaker 1: to work with my kid. You do, but pick your spots.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it to the point where they get tired

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Speaker 1: of you. But the other thing is, I think what

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Speaker 1: you're doing is great. You know, safely come up with

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Speaker 1: ways too. Maybe there's a dad that has an expertise,

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Speaker 1: has been a former college football player. So have a

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Speaker 1: flag football tournament, you know, where you're outside with the

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Speaker 1: masks under the adults and the likelihood as the kids

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Speaker 1: can't pick up the virus at least that's what we've

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Speaker 1: been told being outside. So I think you gotta use

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Speaker 1: your imagination, keep them busy within the protocols of what's safe.

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Speaker 1: But have fun. Man, have funk them out. You're running around.

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Speaker 1: That's good stuff. The final question on the NBA, it

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Speaker 1: seems like James Harden may get traded to the Nets.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious to your your thoughts, Kyrie k d

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Speaker 1: James Harden? Can that work? Can they win a title?

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect place for this to happen because the

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Speaker 1: Nets have all the assets. Houston is. Houston is a

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Speaker 1: train wreck. You know, seriously, they are they everybody knows it.

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Speaker 1: Uh to Daryl to Daryl Morey, you know, did some

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Speaker 1: great things. They're willing to deal in seventy three trades,

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Speaker 1: but when you see what he left behind the future

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Speaker 1: is bleak. It is no draft fix aging stars. So

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Speaker 1: I think this makes sense because if you look in

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Speaker 1: New York right now, you have Spencer Dinwoodie, you have

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Speaker 1: Cares Lever, you have Joe Harris, maybe you have Jared Allen.

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Speaker 1: They want to they want to start DeAndre and Jared

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Speaker 1: Allen might be expendable, right they have draft picks. So

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Speaker 1: to me, it kind of makes sense for Houston to

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Speaker 1: do this because they have to start from scratch. I

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Speaker 1: don't think in the West given just James and Russell.

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Speaker 1: And give Russell credit because he played hurt in the

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Speaker 1: bubble so we didn't see the real Russell. But if

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Speaker 1: they want to start over, I think now is the

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Speaker 1: time to do it. They may not want to do

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Speaker 1: it and run it back, but I would start over

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Speaker 1: because I would. I would. I would capture as many

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Speaker 1: assets going forward as possible. Be bad now because the

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Speaker 1: West is loaded. Totally agree? But wait, what about the Nets?

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Speaker 1: Can the Nets win a title with those three? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That's that's a question I didn't answer for you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, can I get to the finals?

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Speaker 1: Of course? The talent is is crazy. Too many balls?

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Speaker 1: Is too many balls? Guys who are needy, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: you know, Uh, I've watched k D since this freshman

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Speaker 1: year of Texas playing for my my former boss, Rick Barnes.

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Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Kyrie seems to be a great guy.

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Speaker 1: James Harden never gets in trouble away from the court.

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Speaker 1: These are good guys basketball wise, given that it's a

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Speaker 1: chemistry sport. I think they could win it, but I

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Speaker 1: think they would be miserable doing it. Miserably. I think

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Speaker 1: they could win a title with that team, but they wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a dynasty. Okay, interesting, all right, Frand Frachilla.

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Speaker 1: Everybody obviously follow him on social media and again eighteen

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Speaker 1: hours of NBA Draft coverage on series Friend. Thanks a

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Speaker 1: lot for your time, case. There was always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: talking to you, man. I I mean that