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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: These are some of our favorite segments from this week,

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Speaker 1: all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined once again by a writer,

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Speaker 1: one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know him from stuff they don't want you to know,

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Speaker 1: ridiculous history, missing in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: It's Ben Buller b o snap oh.

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Speaker 3: Right a ka nil wob neb missed you guys, uh

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Speaker 3: nilob Yeah, I got the got the got got the

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Speaker 3: gray Miles.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we are there, you guys. How how are

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Speaker 1: you doing it?

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Speaker 2: It's been fucking forever.

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Speaker 1: Good So I'm doing great. Everything is great.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five started off with a bang and yeah,

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Speaker 4: no notes, no notes, no notes.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five, I love thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: asking love to see an outsider get go to DC

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Speaker 1: and just kind of shake things up, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, to the point where you've killed it because

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Speaker 1: you shook it so hard.

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Speaker 3: Spelling spelling shake s h E I K.

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Speaker 1: Surely yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah yeah no, no, it's cool that we

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Speaker 1: have a Russian president.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's really like.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the news really isn't doing a good

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Speaker 4: job of like acknowledging the moment and that you know.

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Speaker 2: They I think they're nailing it.

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Speaker 4: They want to talk about Obama all the time, but

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Speaker 4: then I'm talking about our first Russian president.

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Speaker 2: Damn, I know. Thank you? Or so.

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Speaker 1: That's the real DEI right, that we were looking for

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Speaker 1: as a country.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So it does seem like we're gonna try and go

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Speaker 1: Trump free on this bitch. But it does seem like

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Speaker 1: we're we might be seeing the beginnings of some sort

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Speaker 1: of the mainstream media waking.

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Speaker 2: Up because it's talking you can do whatever.

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Speaker 1: It turns out you can do whatever the fuck you want,

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Speaker 1: as long as you don't as well, just.

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Speaker 2: Don't suck up my money.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, yeah. What is something from your search

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Speaker 1: history that's revealing about.

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Speaker 5: Who you are?

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Speaker 3: Can you feed a cat dog food?

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Speaker 2: Oh mm hm?

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Speaker 3: Why did this happen? Why did I search this? Because

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Speaker 3: my husband.

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Speaker 1: Leab that's the equivalent of my wife.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's millennia, saying my husband, my husband, Okay, husband,

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Speaker 3: he bought the the dog food for the cat, and

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Speaker 3: so I wanted to know, can you feed the cat

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Speaker 3: dog food? It turns out out you can, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the proper nutrients, so only for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And that little bit was this morning when she puked.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, wait, so because it's so good.

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Speaker 3: Different, No, the puking was definitely because she got a

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Speaker 3: good can of food this morning and she liked it,

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Speaker 3: so she scarfed it too fast. But then I immediately

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Speaker 3: was like, okay, it's been five days of us knowing

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Speaker 3: that this is dog food, maybe like a week or

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Speaker 3: fifteen days of it actually being dog food, and so

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Speaker 3: we need to swap this shit out. So yes, but yes,

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Speaker 3: there are some nutrients that cats need that dogs don't. Dogs,

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Speaker 3: I think can eat more veggies. They're like dogs are

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Speaker 3: super down. And in fact, it's good to feed dogs

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Speaker 3: like colorful foods like carrots and sweet potatoes. That stuff

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Speaker 3: is good for them. But cats need just meet they

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Speaker 3: need oh wow, yeah. Yeah. And also I've been looking

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Speaker 3: up cat health insurance and it's also a racket. Everything

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Speaker 3: about vet insurance is a fucking racket. Everything about veterinary

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Speaker 3: care and animal care is a racket. And yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: but I'm like, I'm like it's awful. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, that's just that's.

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Speaker 4: How veterinarians feel too. They're like, it's so fun. I

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Speaker 4: can't even give care because the fucking mandate I get

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Speaker 4: from the corporate overlords is to just like be like, dude,

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Speaker 4: just deny anything. Just tell them the pets are gonna die.

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Speaker 4: You can't do anything for him because it's too We're

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Speaker 4: not going to cover that Shiit just.

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Speaker 3: No, it is so wild, Like two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: dollars for a urine test. Excuse me, how two hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty dollars to test the urine for you? Exactly?

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Speaker 4: That shit tastes off. I'll know right away, exactly less

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Speaker 3: No, But seriously, I'm just like, can we I understand obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know, fore Luigi, we need universal medicare for all.

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Speaker 3: We need to abolish the private you know, health care

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Speaker 3: iss them in this country. But also we need medicare

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Speaker 3: for all for cats so yes, a lot of a

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Speaker 3: lot of feline stuff in my search history.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, the Democrats are not going to

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Speaker 1: like that talking point medicare for all four cats, Francisco.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to we're trying to get that big D

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Speaker 4: Democrat podcast or spot and I don't just do you.

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Speaker 1: Guys Rogan of the Left, please, we've already applied. They

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Speaker 1: gave us a swift and unambiguous no, you may not.

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Speaker 4: They said, wasn'tbelievable as a tough guy, and I was

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Speaker 4: quote not white.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I tried to act like I knew what m m

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's prety good for like depression, Like a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are like tinkering with it.

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Speaker 2: It was like an ecstasy.

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Speaker 4: But now like m m A therapy is like really

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Speaker 4: they're like get this.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's good to know. That's helpful information

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Speaker 1: that we're learning up top. What is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so not to be like all about me, but

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Speaker 6: it is my birthday week. Whoa March for.

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Speaker 2: Birthday?

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Speaker 6: And I'm hella busy in an adult so I can't

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Speaker 6: celebrate this week, but I'm really excited Jackies and I

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Speaker 6: are going to go in the future at some point

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Speaker 6: that I won't tell everyone to the Gentle Barn. Have

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Speaker 6: you guys, have you heard about the Gentle Bar?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is that like up in Santa Clarita area.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like a farm sanctuary. I follow all these

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Speaker 6: rescue farms and they're so sweet and they cuddle cows

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Speaker 6: and they like I feel like every animal is just

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Speaker 6: like some version of a puppy, Like like cows are

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Speaker 6: just like milk puppies, you know, Turkeys are thanksgiving puppies.

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Speaker 1: You know, oh you.

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Speaker 6: No I don't vegan, okay, now you can.

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Speaker 2: Just giving puppy giving puppy.

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Speaker 6: But it's just like puppies that we haven't like played

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Speaker 6: have personalities, they all have individual you know, like individual

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Speaker 6: all got little things. And so I really love like

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Speaker 6: rescue farms because it's just like kind of the misfit

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Speaker 6: and thrive. And so I'm really excited to go. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna go to the gentle barn.

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Speaker 4: The guys child loves animals and like horses and donkeys

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Speaker 4: and shit like that, and everyone's like, you gotta take them,

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Speaker 4: you gotta take them to the gentle farm. And I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let me know how.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can do like you can cuddle cows. And

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Speaker 6: there was this like viral video that went around a

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Speaker 6: like like when you when you get like so like

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Speaker 6: angry because it's something so cute, You're like, I want

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Speaker 6: to eat your cheeks. Cute aggression. Yeah yeah, And this

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Speaker 6: woman was like, get it all out.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 6: You can get it all out on cows. You can

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Speaker 6: hug them as hard as you want because they're so big,

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Speaker 6: you could just like take out your cute aggression on

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Speaker 6: And so I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna cuddle

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Speaker 2: Those cows are like tough guys. Are they.

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Speaker 6: You trying to fight a cow at the gentle bar?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying you're saying the cow can handle it all.

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Speaker 6: At the gentle barn? Are you gonna come in with

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Speaker 4: The gentle bar, Are you here to assault the animals?

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Speaker 6: No, they're going to post up.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know. I just want to know.

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Speaker 2: I just want to check how a bill.

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Speaker 4: But oh that does make sense, because yeah, those animals

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Speaker 4: are so like I like when I think they're huge

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Speaker 4: there's nothing you can do to me, Yeah, except.

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Speaker 1: Just want to This is coming from AI over you.

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Speaker 1: But I do remember writing about this back of the day.

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Speaker 1: The cows are responsible for an average of twenty two

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Speaker 1: human deaths each year.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but how many humans are responsible for how many

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Are you trying to tone police and oppressed class in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying watch them keeping that's crazy way Jack,

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Speaker 4: So the cows are claiming twenty two of our human

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Speaker 4: lives a year. Uh huh, Okay, well I'm just loiggling

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Speaker 4: up the new stats from twenty twenty three about thirty

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Speaker 4: two point eight million.

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Speaker 1: Cattle were slaughdered in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Hold that cows.

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Speaker 6: I know this is not the feeling coming into this.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry about the milk puppies.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were doing the scoreboard thing. I'm too

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Speaker 6: Sorry with other species.

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Speaker 2: Or asked a very good question, can you.

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Speaker 6: See that a clip of that little girl who was

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Speaker 6: like at a rescue farm thing and then she was like,

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Speaker 6: that's the cheeseburger like.

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Speaker 1: That for a long time to connect the food to

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Speaker 1: the animal. They're like, no, it's not chickens like that chicken.

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Speaker 1: That's the same same word, but it's for different things,

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Speaker 1: like that's the food chicken, and those are like our cute,

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Speaker 1: our neighbor's cute chickens.

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Speaker 6: I think that's how much are in their brains.

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Speaker 2: The deaths are not based on that.

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Speaker 1: They're not like cheating this victor, but victors like I

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Speaker 1: was just them choking on steak or whatever, or like

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Speaker 1: having heart attacks from high and that. If we added

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Speaker 1: that as well as like their methane admissions, we would be.

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Speaker 2: That's doing it from the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the cows are like we're playing the long get

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Speaker 1: This is like two like smash smashings where they're just

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Speaker 1: them and they're like dead. Now when people are like

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Speaker 1: a farm related incident, let's not tell the whole truth

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Speaker 6: Victor says, don't spoil it. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Just a secret service team is tasked with Mile. Now

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, you ruined everything, Miles I do.

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Speaker 1: And what Fizzic is something that you think is overrated.

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Speaker 4: in here? Well tell me doctor, Yeah exactly exactly. They're like,

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Speaker 4: are those official doctors sandals you're wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doctors.

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Speaker 1: Doctors wear some fucked up shoes because they need comfort.

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Speaker 1: And you have a new cigarettes coming out of your podcast.

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Speaker 4: And I'm wearing I'm wearing a commemorative Scrubs Rewatch podcast

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Speaker 2: And we're back. We're back.

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Speaker 1: And so this third way sounds not at all nefarious group.

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Speaker 4: So we have somebody who comes from dynastic wealth as

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Speaker 4: So they came together and Politico, who's also done a

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Speaker 3: makes it sound like a little bit broader, like more

447
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Speaker 3: Democrats are buying into this. The DNC maybe have something

448
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Speaker 3: to do with it, or the d Triple C, you know,

449
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: and the fundraising arm had something to do with it. No,

450
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: the third way is like notoriously awful. So I just

451
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Speaker 3: want to name like it's it's not it's not necessarily

452
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Speaker 3: where the rest of the party, although I have massive

453
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Speaker 3: questions about where they're gonna go, right, but they should

454
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Speaker 3: definitely not listen to yes, the following recommendation.

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Speaker 2: Right.

456
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Speaker 4: I think what it is, more than anything, shows that

457
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Speaker 4: there is the fight for the Democratic Party is well

458
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Speaker 4: and truly on and right now the Centrists are making

459
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Speaker 4: their case. They're trying to round the resources to be

460
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Speaker 4: like it has to be this version of the Democratic Party.

461
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Speaker 4: It can't be this fucking a fringe shit like that

462
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Speaker 4: AOC is talking about or stuff where they're talking about

463
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Speaker 4: like taxing the wealthy. I'm sorry, I'm Rachel Pritzker, Like

464
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Speaker 4: I can't have a bite taken out of my fortune

465
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Speaker 4: because of this kind of shit. No, but let's make

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Speaker 4: it sound like something good.

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Speaker 2: So again.

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Speaker 4: This was the third way is comeback retreat and there's

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Speaker 4: four sections takeaways on why Democrats have a cultural disconnect

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Speaker 4: with the working class, takeaways on why Democrats are not

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Speaker 4: trusted by the working class, on the economy, then takeaways

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Speaker 4: on how Democrats can reconnect culturally with the working class,

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Speaker 4: and takeaways on how Democrats can rebuild economic trust with

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Speaker 4: working class voters.

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Speaker 3: Is this like they all were given a mirror and

476
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Speaker 3: just had to hold it up to their own goddamn

477
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Speaker 3: faces and were like, we are the reason that the Democratic.

478
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Speaker 2: Party is not connected to the world.

479
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Speaker 3: It's like, do you guys remember the scene? And I'm

480
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: a big fried Green Tomatoes fan, but like to like

481
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Speaker 3: get to know your body, like Kathy Bates like has

482
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Speaker 3: a mirror and she looks at her vagina. Yeah, And

483
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Speaker 3: this is like they need to look at their faces,

484
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Speaker 3: look your bank account, look your face, look at your car,

485
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Speaker 3: look at you know, like who you hang out with,

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Speaker 3: the person.

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Speaker 4: You know personally that you have in your phone book,

488
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Speaker 4: that you interact with as a person, Yes, exactly, and.

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Speaker 1: Not a service provider.

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Speaker 4: Right, just as just as a question, I think that

491
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Speaker 4: should be the first question rather how many billionaires you

492
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Speaker 4: know your.

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Speaker 1: Cap and berated the direct TV guy the other day.

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Speaker 2: Does that count?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't even have aid do it. I just

496
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Speaker 1: had some steam to blow off.

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Speaker 4: So so I'll read through these and we can stop

498
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Speaker 4: at whichever one you'd like to, because they're all equally infuriating.

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Speaker 4: But first takeaways on why democrats have a cultural disconnect

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Speaker 4: with the working class. One over emphasis on identity politics too,

501
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Speaker 4: the faculty lounge problem, which is again they're saying, quote

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Speaker 4: Democrats are often viewed as judgmental, out of touch, and

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Speaker 4: dismissive of those without elite education or progressive views. I

504
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Speaker 4: like how they go or progressive views. It's just very

505
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Speaker 4: telling or or us where we don't like that, we

506
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Speaker 4: feel like weird, they don't, we.

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Speaker 1: Look down on people who aren't college educated. And also

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Speaker 1: that I think we're too woke.

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Speaker 2: Don't ignore. Just to ignore that last part, keep joying it.

510
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Speaker 2: It's woke. It's woke.

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Speaker 4: My virus Number three failure to prioritize economic concerns.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: True, that's true, but true.

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Speaker 2: They go, it's going to go in an interesting direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, the subhead is while voters struggle with jobs, wages,

516
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Speaker 4: and inflation, Democrats are seen as more focused on cultural

517
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Speaker 4: and social issues than on economic progress and opportunity.

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Speaker 2: They don't like racism.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're also they're not They're not connected in any way,

520
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Speaker 4: They're not all woven together in this much larger thing

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Speaker 4: called American culture. Anyway, Then weekly weak messaging and communication,

522
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: true fear of dissent within the party. This is where

523
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Speaker 4: the wheels completely blow off. Now Democrats is again from

524
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Speaker 4: this dogum quote. Democrats are perceived as intolerant of internal debate.

525
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: We're questioning progressive we're questioning progressive orthodoxy results in backlash

526
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Speaker 4: rather than open discussion. Candidates and operatives need to feel

527
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Speaker 4: more comfortable just saying no to activist groups and unpalatable

528
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Speaker 4: far left ideas. This is again where you're seeing how

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Speaker 4: the fight's playing out.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like every heading is like okay, and then

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Speaker 3: their description is like absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, right right exactly.

533
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Speaker 3: So where does Gaza fit into the fear of dissent

534
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: within the party? Right? I mean like there, this is amazing, right,

535
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Speaker 3: because this is the whole thing is like we feel

536
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Speaker 3: like we're being policed and we feel like we have

537
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Speaker 3: to get in line. Now, granted we haven't gotten in line,

538
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Speaker 3: and we have not listened to our base, and we've

539
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 3: ignored the mass movements, whether it's around BLM or around Gaza,

540
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Speaker 3: we completely ignored them, and we punch left and we

541
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Speaker 3: treat them like shit. Right, but they make us feel

542
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Speaker 3: bad and we still ignore them. It's just like you,

543
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Speaker 3: what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Kamla Harris had energy coming into the election and then

545
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Speaker 1: promptly steered in the direct direction they're suggesting the party

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Speaker 1: go and lost all the momentum.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: Attachment to unpopular institutions very weird.

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Speaker 3: The ones that are now being obliterated by Elon so

550
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Speaker 3: Republican light got it, gotta got.

551
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Speaker 4: Right, allowing the far left to define the party. Activist

552
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: groups and progressive staffers push unpopular cultural positions, making it

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Speaker 4: seem like Democrats are more extreme than they actually are.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about?

555
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: Operators and campaigns must remember that activist groups exist to

556
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: promote their single issue and raise money around it, not

557
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: to make Democrats electable. MM reactionary rather than proactive. Over

558
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: reliance on buzzwords and political correctness. Hikes and ten lack

559
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Speaker 4: a positive national identity message. Okay, Democrats focus too much

560
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: on America's flaws racism, sexism, inequality without acknowledging the country's

561
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Speaker 4: progress and potential, making them seem pessimistic and unpatriotic.

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Speaker 2: This is just so very much just got.

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Speaker 1: Their ass kicked in an election where the opposing side

564
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Speaker 1: did nothing but talk about how America was a complete shithole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah again it's very right,

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Speaker 4: right right, it is wild where again This next part

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Speaker 4: takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted by the working class.

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Speaker 4: On the economy, it can all be summed up in

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Speaker 4: one sentence, which is we cape for capitalism and the

570
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Speaker 4: status quo and nothing else. That's the problem every time.

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Speaker 4: So the first one vilification of wealth. Democrats are seen

572
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Speaker 4: as hostile to success, indifferent to people's desire to attain wealth,

573
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Speaker 4: while reflexively attacking wealthy business leaders instead of promoting economic

574
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Speaker 4: mobility and aspiration. Hm disconnected messaging like everything is just so.

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: Democrats focus on broad economic indicators instead of acknowledging real

576
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 4: struggles like high prices and stagnant wages, making voters feel

577
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: dismissed and unheard. Yeah you can, this is the problem,

578
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: You'll point You'll gesture to the problems, but you'll never

579
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Speaker 4: fucking wrestle with the issues.

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Speaker 2: That's the fu's I mean.

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Speaker 3: This is just wild, like for some of these are

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Speaker 3: complete nincompoops number one, but number one and number two

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Speaker 3: of why Democrats are not trusted by the working class

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00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: are completely antithetical to one another. We have disconnected messaging.

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Speaker 3: We don't actually make it clear that we understand and

586
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Speaker 3: listen into voters economic concerns. When grocery prices are exorbitantly high,

587
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: they can't afford childcare, on and on and on. But

588
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: people are being too mean to corporations, and we can

589
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: vilify the wealthy. This is the problem. This is but

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Speaker 3: this is actually why Joe Biden failed in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways beyond the butcher Biden you know, last fifteenth

592
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: you know year of his presidency was really about like, Okay,

593
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Speaker 3: we're gonna sort of nibble around the edges, pass and reforms,

594
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Speaker 3: go after you know, monopolies, but we're not gonna do

595
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Speaker 3: it hard enough or swift enough to actually make real

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Speaker 3: gains that impact people's lives. And we're going but we're

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Speaker 3: gonna still piss off the one percent, and we're never

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Speaker 3: going to gain popular support for these programs and for

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Speaker 3: these things like stopping the price gouging or making sure

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Speaker 3: that you know, you know, Apple and Google and Amazon

601
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Speaker 3: are you know, have to break up or sell off

602
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Speaker 3: certain companies or we're you know, we're suing them all

603
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Speaker 3: that we're not going to make these very valiant policies

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Speaker 3: that we are enacting actually popular because we're not gonna

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Speaker 3: specifically vilify the one percent. Like in order to connect

606
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Speaker 3: to people economically, you have to vilify the wealth. You

607
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: have to vilify the one percent. It gives people something

608
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: to latch onto, and that's you know, that's why Trump

609
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: is so successful. It's because he's demonizing immigrants, trans people,

610
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Speaker 3: women like we understand that, so give them the opposite,

611
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Speaker 3: say the ninety nine percent versus the one percent. It's

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Speaker 3: what catapulted the occupy movement into Bernie Sanders two time

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Speaker 3: near electoral win.

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Speaker 4: So it's just like, yeah, with the one percent, but

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Speaker 4: the one percent is running everything, So how can we

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Speaker 4: expect them to even have this like this one part too.

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Speaker 4: Failure to address economic anxiety is another one where it's like, yeah,

618
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Speaker 4: no shit, but again they just go on to just

619
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Speaker 4: like talk around the issue. Another one is nine the

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Speaker 4: breakroom versus the boardroom. Democratic economic messages often come from elites,

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Speaker 4: celebrities and politicians rather than working class voices that voters

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Speaker 4: can relate to. What you're saying is, yes, the party

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Speaker 4: has been captured by the hyper wealthy, so you're inherently going.

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Speaker 2: To have it communication to our.

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Speaker 4: Wording, it's not going to with Rachel Pritzker or people

626
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: of that ilk at the helm of a political party.

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Speaker 4: They have absolutely this is so far.

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Speaker 3: To get your vagina in a mirror. That's what I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Just say that.

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Speaker 4: Just look at it for us, look at it for

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Speaker 4: a second, and it'll be Actually.

633
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Speaker 3: It's not nearly as nice as doing that, but like, yeah,

634
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Speaker 3: it's this is no one should take anything these people

635
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Speaker 3: say seriously. And it's really annoying that the way that

636
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Speaker 3: the political article was spun was made it seem like

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Speaker 3: this wasn't the third way organization. Everyone knows a third

638
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Speaker 3: way organization has been like tone deaf.

639
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: The problem is is that people you know, like James

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Speaker 3: Carville will pair it a lot of these points, and

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00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: many people pair it these points, which is basically like

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Speaker 3: we need to get rid of the racial justice component,

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Speaker 3: which is not really even a component. It's just sort

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Speaker 3: of a lip service that we pay to real equity

646
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Speaker 3: in this country. Get rid of all that language because

647
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: we weren't actually doing anything to implement it. Also hop

648
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: on board with DEI programs, DIA programs, which are again

649
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: stopgap measures that mostly make ourselves look better and so

650
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Speaker 3: we don't have to address structural issues economic issues broadly,

651
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Speaker 3: like this is. And then the last thing like don't

652
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Speaker 3: make me look at twenty twenty five and like miss Obama,

653
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Speaker 3: like don't make me miss the way. The one thing

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Speaker 3: that Obama was actually able to do well, which was

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Speaker 3: I think give some sort of narrative structure to this

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Speaker 3: democracy that we live in is specifically when it comes

657
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Speaker 3: to like multi racial democracy, a country that is still

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Speaker 3: in formation, in the making, that is a sum of

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Speaker 3: its parts. You know that it's best days are ahead

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Speaker 3: and not behind. But truly with again this like call

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Speaker 3: it it's not post racial, but of course in the

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Speaker 3: minds of a lot of white people, this like post racial.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's moving forward. You know, we can do it together.

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Speaker 3: Like like it's just so wild that we live in

665
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: a time where like two thousand and nine seemed really hopeful,

666
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: you know, and and and I say that as someone

667
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: who in two thousand and nine was actually not that hopeful,

668
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: and of course was like everyone else many progress is

669
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: very disappointed. But like, it's not that hard to have

670
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: a narrative of multiracial democracy that is inclusive, where there's

671
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: an economy that works for all people. It's fucking really

672
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: simple to articulate that, and many politicians do.

673
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's like just something about this, especially in

675
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: third way, and knowing how wealthy the people are behind

676
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: it too, where like they they can they're reading the

677
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: room that the clock is ticking for people like for

678
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: just ignoring the wealth hoarding that's happening from the like

679
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: the very wealthy. And I think they're trying to like

680
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: dance around it in this way where they're like, ah,

681
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Speaker 4: it's a problem, but I certainly don't know how to

682
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Speaker 4: contend with it.

683
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Speaker 2: That ends up with me having less than I already do.

684
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Speaker 2: And that's that's a totally unspoken thing.

685
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because all this stuff just reads to me

686
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: is it's pro inequality propaganda, Like all of these talking points,

687
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: and if that's your worldview, if your pro inequality or

688
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: just indifferent to inequality. All of these talking points are

689
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: very easy for you to parrot and act like you're

690
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: analyzing and observing a problem and that maybe there's something

691
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 4: to be done about it, but you are falling short

692
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 4: of the actual work of saying we actually have to

693
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 4: begin to dismantle these structures if we want a tangible effect,

694
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: if we want voters to actually have some kind of

695
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: tangible outcome that they can then connect to this party

696
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: and say, yeah, you know what, I trust them, I'll

697
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: vote for them because I can see they understand what's

698
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: at stake and they're contending with it rather than trying

699
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 4: to be like, the problem is and this go. They

700
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: say this in their document, small dollar donors, that's a

701
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: thing to be It's that's a remedy they're putting in here.

702
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: Revised democratic fundraising parties move away from the dominance of

703
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: small dollar donors whose preferences may not align with the

704
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Speaker 4: broader electorate. AKA, stop listening to the people who were

705
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: trying who's trust we're trying to regain and just get

706
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: all the money from our wealthy friends.

707
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Speaker 3: It is a complete nonsensical document because it's just full

708
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: of these hypocrisies, the small dollar donors. I eat many

709
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: many people don't represent many many people. Right, you know

710
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. No, nobody knows what you're saying. It

711
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. And again, this is what's gonna

712
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: look guys, this is what gets us fascism, this kind

713
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: of thinking. Yeah, lines in the sand have been drawn, y'all.

714
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: There's a class war. Which side are you on? Okay,

715
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: stop fucking caping like you care when you want to

716
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: maintain you know, tax structure the way it is, when

717
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: you're not actually really going to dress wealth inequality.

718
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Speaker 5: Shut up.

719
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: Just go over to the side of the room of

720
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: the gymnasium with all the billionaires, because we don't need

721
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: you anymore. We understand. Like truly though, I'm just like

722
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: so sick of these people, you know, helping the Democratic

723
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Party and its tailspin, and it's their fucking noseedives because

724
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: this is this is what the Kamala Harris campaign did.

725
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Speaker 2: It's exactly what it thinks.

726
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Yes, the I mean so the playbook I feel like

727
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party, both successfully and unsuccessfully, has been

728
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: promised progressive change, like big radical change and then govern

729
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: as a right leaning your photocracy and like that playbook.

730
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Speaker 3: And not even really do the former, like not even

731
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: really promised.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, just like gesture esthetically, Obama felt like

733
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: he was offering revolutionary change, hope and change, you know,

734
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: but then like not really in any sort of real way, did.

735
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Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, was a good like when

736
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm I'm even again, I put Obama in a separate

737
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: category at this point, like Kamala Harris did not run

738
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: an Obama campaign at all. There was no big idea

739
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: and again there was so much working against her and

740
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: on and on and on, but like this is useless.

741
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I mean really, yeah, I feel like

742
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: the because people have been fooled by this so long

743
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: and like, yes, the Obama like ACA was something. It

744
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: was also written by the insurance industry, and like I

745
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: think the big original sin that people can't get past

746
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: is the bailing out of Wall Street. And yeah, like

747
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: but so the two options seem to be like promise

748
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: progressive and then government progressive. If you're not going to

749
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: do the promise progressive and then govern as a corporatography,

750
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: it's promised progressive and then government progressive, or promise corporatography

751
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: and govern the way you've always been governing, and.

752
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: Which why would if you're a corporation, now, why the like,

753
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: why would you ever throw it down with Democrats? Again?

754
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: The the Republicans are promising you the moon and the stars, right,

755
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean they are truly doing you a massive service.

756
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, unless you rely on things like

757
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: snap benefits to underpay your workers so they don't come

758
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: at you with a knife and shit, right, then that

759
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: would suck for you Walmart and others. But like, again,

760
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: the line of the sand has been drawn, and the

761
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: corporations and you've got rub and Diego going and like

762
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: trying to you know, fundraise with Marc Andreessen and other

763
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: you know crypto crypto bros. And be like we're good too,

764
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: and like you can't offer them what they want, no.

765
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Speaker 4: And also like open up your let's let's see the

766
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 4: donations you've gotten from that sector because we all know

767
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: what time it is. They just bought you as a

768
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: voice to normalize crypto for their own aim. And like

769
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: we've talked about before, they were the biggest industry that

770
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: was spending this last election cycle to get pro crypto

771
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: talking points out to Democrats and Republicans. The one thing though, too,

772
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: which goes along with all this. One of their takeaways

773
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: for how they can rebuild economic trust is to quote

774
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Speaker 4: number five, be pro aspiration and pro capitalism in a

775
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: smart way. Recognize that working class voters value upward mobility

776
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: and economic success, have a prosperity gospel well aimed at

777
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: the working class, call out corporate abuses individually instead of

778
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: attacking quote corporations as a whole. Now, pro aspiration is

779
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: such a fucking violent, fucked up term in this context

780
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: where it's like, not that you're saying, provide people with

781
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: this tangible path. It's like they like upward mobility. But

782
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 4: that's why we use the word aspirational because that doesn't

783
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: mean you're delivering. That means you have the hope that

784
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: it will happen. That doesn't mean you have to do.

785
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: Use words like grindset, mindset more and uh you know life.

786
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: Hack, Hustler of the Month is gonna get a Lambeau

787
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: brought to you by the DNC.

788
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 3: I mean truly, truly, it's like, like, okay, so instead

789
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: of free college tuition, you want to lie to people

790
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: exactly the way that Republicans lie to them, and no

791
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: one's saying that the allure of a get out of

792
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: capitalism free card or like being able to get a

793
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: bunch of money through crypto doesn't exist precisely because of

794
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 3: the moment that we're in, and then honestly precisely because

795
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Democratic Party has lost their way, you know, since FDR

796
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: and since it's embrace of neoliberalism. But I'm very excited

797
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight for the fucking for Gavin Newsom

798
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: to trot out Bill fucking Clinton again and again and again.

799
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

800
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Speaker 1: One of the things is like hanging out with like

801
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Speaker 1: meeting them where they are at tailgates and gun shows,

802
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: which is just and and I think small town diners,

803
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: which first of all like.

804
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: Leaning in tailgates, gun shows, local restaurants. This is written

805
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: by the most billionaire motherfucker, like you know, tailgates and

806
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: gun shows, local restaurants.

807
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: And but it's all white coated, right, isn't that just

808
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: white coded?

809
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, this is all going for like conservative

810
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: middle America.

811
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

812
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Speaker 1: By the way, unsuccessful Democratic candidates have been trying to

813
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: lean into gun culture and failing since Ducaccus in eighties,

814
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: right when he drove that fucking tank, Like Carrie had

815
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: an infamous gun photo op Kamala kept ragging about how

816
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: she had a glock like it just it feels like

817
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: they've got taken taken, Like the twenty twenty four election

818
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: is just like, let's double down on listening to the

819
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: exact wrong people who told us all the things that

820
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: made us lose.

821
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

822
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: Well, then you also have like senators like Chris Murphy

823
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: who are like kind of kind of like having an

824
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: internal debate with themselves about seeing the light where they're like,

825
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: I think it's like you gotta listen to like these

826
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: poor people man, and like we're just not doing a

827
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 4: good job.

828
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: But also, shit, I'm like, so I'm hard to determine.

829
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't care.

830
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: People are like uh huh, yeah, I know, which is

831
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: like it all feels performative because at the end of

832
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: the day, like these people, their entire existence is rooted

833
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: in the fact that this system stays the same. So

834
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: I can't it's hard for me to believe that they

835
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: now have this steal to go after to start to

836
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: even begin to reckon with all of these structures that

837
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: exacerbate the very income or the inequality that they're saying

838
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: is causing a disconnect. It's like, well, we're not going

839
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: to contend with the issue, but we need to figure

840
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 4: out how to tell them that the sky is blue

841
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: when this shit is black.

842
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty, I did a news Broke episode

843
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: that was basically like how to Beat Trump and one

844
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: of the bullet points, which is one that we just

845
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: you could just erase this entire thing and just have

846
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: one bullet point, which is be authentic, and I would

847
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: revise that and just say believe in something, literally, believe

848
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: in something. Pick a thing to actually believe in.

849
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Speaker 2: Mess. We believe in Santa.

850
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: For me, that's it exactly like, I don't even give

851
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: a shit of it's Santa. If it's Santa, sell me

852
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: on Santa, okay, but I need you to actually believe it.

853
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: I think the thing about Santa, he's given too many

854
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: handouts to people that don't deserve it. You know, wait, what.

855
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: You're just boomerang that whole is a nice idea. That's

856
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: a good concept, but really they should be earned stocking stuffers.

857
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: And you know, if you don't pay into the stocking system,

858
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: it should be sort of based on your own income.

859
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how my toys.

860
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 4: I just hate that they basically are taking treat human

861
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 4: beings with dignity and respect and saying that this is

862
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: radical far left thinking, Like because if you just tell someone,

863
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: you don't have to evoke any kind of political theory here,

864
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: just be like this, here's your platform. We believe that

865
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: you have the right to healthcare without going bankrupt because

866
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: your body gets fucked up from maybe the myriad of

867
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: threat vectors we put in the environment to to you know,

868
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 4: corporate activity.

869
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: Whatever.

870
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: Healthcare, Okay, you should be able to have a roof

871
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: over your head. If you would like an education, that

872
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: should be attainable for you at any kind. You want

873
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: to learn a trade, you want to go to university, Okay,

874
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: we got that covered food. What else? Healthcare? Childcare, that

875
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: your children will be safe. That's really those are so

876
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: broad that it would be hard like you're not I mean,

877
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: some conservatives will be like, we're trying to give a handout,

878
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: but other people they are clamoring for things to be

879
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: more affordable or their lives to be less shitty. Just

880
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: articulate that in a way that is just talking about

881
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: it's just like the basics.

882
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: It's really just the basics, but it's it's much.

883
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 4: Easier for it to get like sort of muddled in

884
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: this kind of like think tank talk and then have

885
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: places like Politico be like, all right, this is like

886
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: this is kind of what might be the new normal

887
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: way for the Democratic Party, or at least we'll give

888
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: this the most attention. So no version that seems too

889
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: fucking quote radical takes hold, and you know, people start

890
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: looking the other also.

891
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: You know, it's like if you really want to learn

892
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: from the Republicans, because all this is is looking at

893
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: the other side more.

894
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: Like hey, they're good, and.

895
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I do understand this idea of like

896
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: speaking to people wanting to get ahead and our intense

897
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: individualism and all this and people liking money and people

898
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: not wanting to collect. And that's going to take a

899
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: long many years to rebuild that sense of collectivity of

900
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: a real like yes, an American identity that is about

901
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: equal protection under the law, that is about everyone getting

902
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: an opportunity. Like there's been so much hollowing out of

903
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: the government. Many people believe obviously all this shit is

904
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: dead if it ever were alive. But I'm like thinking

905
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: about it, and I'm like, okay, universal education, like free tuition, right,

906
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: let's say community colleges, state schools to begin with, and

907
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: if you don't want to take advantage of free university tuition,

908
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 3: you can get money instead. It's like, so you get

909
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: it's like putting money in people's pocket if you will

910
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: love money and so it's like you know what I'm saying,

911
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: It's like something like that where it's like it feels

912
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: like socialism also kind of exactly it Also if you

913
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: don't like exactly, you could get money to go to

914
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: a trade school or like start your own business right

915
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: out of college or a high school, whatever you want.

916
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: But we want to promote you going to school you

917
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: freely and fair you know all that. We think everyone

918
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: should have an economic I mean educational opportunity like that.

919
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: But also here's money, like if instaid you don't like

920
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: things like that, that would be an interesting creative way

921
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: to address this moment that we're in, but also talk

922
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: about what can actually solve you know, yeah, you know

923
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: the moment that we're in.

924
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Speaker 4: Or they talk about, oh, people love aspirational stuff and

925
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 4: like they're driven or whatever. That's because there's no fucking

926
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: middle class. If there was a middle class, people wouldn't

927
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: be aspiring to be lambeau driving, like jet hopping, fucked

928
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: with traffick because they look at that as being like, well,

929
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: those are the people the option those are like if

930
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Speaker 4: I want to go on a trip, like have like

931
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: a nice dinner to look like I have to be

932
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: hyper wealthy because my job that used to be able

933
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: to afford someone a very normal, enjoyable life, that fucking

934
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: vision is gone. So that's what they're aspiring to. It's

935
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Speaker 4: not that they want, not necessarily, but the example that

936
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Speaker 4: we have in society is that you must have X

937
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 4: amount of dollars for this aperience to be enjoyable.

938
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Speaker 1: Just those people, those people putting me in pain, and

939
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: that's those are your two options. Be the one who's

940
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: getting fucked over and scammed, or be the scammer or

941
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: the person's like making all the money and else you're stupid.

942
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Speaker 2: Is also part of it.

943
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll say

944
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: a quick goodbye to Skype. We'll be right back.

945
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Speaker 5: Goodbye Scype, and we're back.

946
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Speaker 2: We're we're back.

947
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Speaker 1: Could see, Hey, what's going on up in Canada?

948
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: Canada? Canada?

949
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: So just an unintended outcome of Donald Trump's five D

950
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: chess that is actually like half a dementsion.

951
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: I feel like like.

952
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: One dimension, yeah.

953
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but like.

954
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Five D chess implies he's playing chess five moves in advance,

955
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Speaker 1: and I think he is not even thinking about the

956
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: move he's making as he's making it.

957
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: I think it's less.

958
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: No, he's moving the chess pieces on a board or

959
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 4: they're like, bro, you can't do that.

960
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 2: Punk can't move like a queen. Bro, yeah, I can't watch.

961
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you you're gonna lose. That's all right, final,

962
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: I'll do this. And he's like, that's not a good movie. Oh,

963
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: we'll see, we'll see.

964
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: And then he just puts a handgun on the table

965
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: and says, I can't oh yeah, oh no, that's a toy.

966
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: That's clearly a toy gun. It's got the whole thing

967
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: up there, all right.

968
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: So he is basically and maybe there is an argument

969
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: to be made that this is a successful five D

970
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: chess thing, because the only thing that's gonna keep fascism

971
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: alive is the continued survival of like neolib shit, you know, right,

972
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: So maybe this is five I feel like this is

973
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: what he's just like knocking shit over and it just

974
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: keeps turning up like fucking aces for him. I'm just

975
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: mixing all my table games here.

976
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

977
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: But so a few months ago Trudeau announced he was resigning.

978
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: A new party leader would be chosen, with an election

979
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: happening at some point later this year. His unpopularity was

980
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: like unprecedented. People were just completely out on his bullshit,

981
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: much very similar to Biden. It was just he was

982
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: incredibly unpopular. His policies like this sort of neoliberal angle

983
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: of being like, hey, we want to help you. Here

984
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: are some policies that help you, and then they ultimately

985
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: just are means for funneling wealth towards wealthy people and corporations.

986
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: People were like, fuck this, maybe maybe we need to

987
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: And so the stage was set for a massive liberal defeat,

988
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: much like we saw in the US. I know the

989
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: margins weren't massive, but like when you take into account

990
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: like what should have happened given Trump with platform, Yeah,

991
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: it was really a massive defeat and complete fuck up

992
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party. So now though that Trump has

993
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: come into office and has threatened Canada with in every

994
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: way basically I mean very implied implied military threats of

995
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: being like we're gonna you're gonna be our fifty first state.

996
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: But obviously the big one is the economic tariffs. He

997
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: has come back and been like that this guy's an asshole,

998
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: you know. He like did a direct address to Americans

999
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: was like I'm sorry, you're doing this to yourself, and

1000
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: that has been incredibly popular in Canada. Everybody is like, well,

1001
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: I guess the election used to be about like domestic

1002
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Canadian policies, but now it's all about fending off threats

1003
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: posed by the Trump administration. Their numbers has like shot.

1004
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 7: Up nothing like a common enemy, y yeah, exactly, totally

1005
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 7: to bring the people together, right, yeah, I mean it's

1006
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 7: the best thing that happened to Trudeau.

1007
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 4: It is wild when like I just you know, as

1008
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 4: our elections are happening, all like Canadians that game, we're like,

1009
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: we're right behind you, We're right behind you, we're about

1010
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: to go We're about to flop to the right also,

1011
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: and then it's just like it's just wild how the

1012
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 4: emergence of this ship had Trump immediately like what the

1013
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: fuck like and it just sort of immediately has people

1014
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: being like, right, hold on a second, this guy is

1015
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: a fucking loser and dangerous and all the people that

1016
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: are parroting that shit like in our country, like this

1017
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: is it cannot leap downever is going on.

1018
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: So the person who was like favored to take over

1019
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: for Trudeau was the head of the Conservative Party, Pierre

1020
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: Pollievit poly.

1021
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Polly every poly evry Pierre. I don't know why he's

1022
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: a down Pierre.

1023
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: He was, you know, poised to coast to victory and

1024
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: now has completely had to revamp his strategy because his

1025
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, in the run up to our election, like

1026
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: the thing he was that was giving him strength was

1027
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: that he was being repeatedly referred to as Canada's Trump. Yeah,

1028
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: and now that's not good for him now that Trump

1029
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: has had a chance to be really bad at his

1030
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: job in the eyes of everyone, except for like the

1031
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: thirty percent of Americans who voted for him, you know,

1032
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: they're like, whoa, that that might be a very bad thing.

1033
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: It's it is interesting though, too.

1034
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: Everything Trump does has this weird effect of also doing

1035
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: the opposite thing. If he wants like where he's like, well,

1036
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: I'll abandoned Ukraine and now Europe's like, bro, we need

1037
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: to fucking we need to cut these Americans out of

1038
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: the conversation. Because they're going to fucking destroy everything and like,

1039
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: fuck fuck all this so and I was like, oh shit,

1040
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: they're all they're getting each other's backs.

1041
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: Now this is different.

1042
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: And now with Canada, Trudeau merely just being like this

1043
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 4: is some bullshit, guys, and it was like, yeah, we're back,

1044
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: We're back, and Mike, look, a word of warning to

1045
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: the Canadians, man, do not let the presence of an

1046
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: aspiring fascist turn into a neoliberal honeymoon. Okay, the Democratic

1047
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: Party should have taken the biggest like a bigger l

1048
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: over what happened in twenty sixteen, but the presence of

1049
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: Trump made everyone nostalgic for the before times and completely

1050
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: lost sight of like what was ailing society and what

1051
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: actually needed to be addressed. So take the opportunity if

1052
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: you can.

1053
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know, it's not gonna be easy.

1054
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: But theoretically you could drive a stake into the heart

1055
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 4: of right wing extremism and meet people's needs. Okay, because

1056
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: if you let the rot of inequality continue, the fungus

1057
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: that is authoritarianism rule will have the perfect environment to

1058
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: replicate and thrive in and you're just gonna end up

1059
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: being the same place we are down the road, like

1060
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be enough to be like, oh, thank

1061
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: god he's standing up to it. You now have to

1062
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: take the opportunity to like just fucking learn from this.

1063
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: It's because the Democrats did fuck all to address the

1064
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: needs of the people at the expense of the donor

1065
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: class that we're in this mess that we're in right now.

1066
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: And also just ideologically, it's impossible for them to bite

1067
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: the hand that feed. So we were fucked either way.

1068
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: But Canada, you already got a leg up on America

1069
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: in a few ways in terms of how you're treating

1070
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 4: your people.

1071
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: So just I'm just.

1072
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: It'll come back, though, if you know, if not, caras

1073
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 4: shit will come right back. They are waiting for material

1074
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: conditions to be bad enough for people to be like, yeah,

1075
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: fuck it, destroy everything.

1076
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if we're gonna be able to if the

1077
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: US is going to be able to get out of that,

1078
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: because it is it does feel like the only thing

1079
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: that can make the idea of sort of that corporatocracy

1080
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: but democrat look good is what Trump is doing, you know,

1081
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: like he's doing the exact thing to make people be like,

1082
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess to.

1083
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 4: The other thing if Biden was fine, Like, yeah, I

1084
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: guess no, it wasn't and it's not now. And I

1085
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: think that's you know, if I like, you think like

1086
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: the most cynical of democratic strategies would be going to

1087
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: these billionaires be like, look, dude, we need all y'all

1088
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: to like do token donations to bring your cred back

1089
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 4: up and and make people feel like you contribute to society.

1090
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 8: Just fucking just do these token offerings to just fucking

1091
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 8: bring the temperature down a little bit and say you're

1092
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 8: okay with that, and then we can if you're okay

1093
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 8: with just a little bit more taxes, we can just

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Speaker 8: do some stuff that'll keep them at bay before they

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Speaker 8: all fucking turn off us.

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Speaker 4: That's but they can't even do that. They're just like,

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Speaker 4: but Trump's bad. So you're like, well that, okay. There

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Speaker 4: goes any opportunity to do anything, given the most cynical sense,

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Speaker 4: to try and keep the fucking powers that be in power,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, the road inevitably just ends this way, right,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, all all.

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Speaker 1: These countries have the entire economically populist lane to go

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Speaker 1: down where you can create policies that actually benefit people

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Speaker 1: instead of corporations and by the way, corporations are people too,

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Speaker 1: So Miles, when you said Joe Biden didn't do things

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Speaker 1: for people, you were meeting out a big chunk of

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Speaker 1: the population. Thank you. I will refer you your honor,

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Speaker 1: no further answers, your honor. But it's just so wild

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Speaker 1: that like they are leaving this huge lane that has

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Speaker 1: like proven to be popular in the past, with the

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Speaker 1: Sanders campaign coming out of nowhere in twenty sixteen, doing

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Speaker 1: remarkably well in twenty eighteen. But again, like to your point,

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Speaker 1: I think people just lost their nerve because they were like, well,

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Speaker 1: we got to beat him, and Sanders isn't gonna win,

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Speaker 1: Like this is not a time to be taking chances.

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Speaker 1: This Trump guy's indicates that he could. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody's playing the game too much.

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Speaker 7: I mean, do you think that they the Democrat those

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Speaker 7: in power, he didn't want to bite the hand that

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Speaker 7: feeds them, actually would rather have Trump than Bernie.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I mean probably, yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: they probably know that Trump is better for there. They

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Speaker 1: are so distinct from what you know, what Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: and like what you know the the idea of a

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Speaker 1: progressive politics that actually like is focused on helping people that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think there's anything about Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: that appeals to mainstream Democrats, whereas with Trump it gives

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Speaker 1: them something too in theory, you know, fundraise. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, like, in theory, run against but it's not

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Speaker 1: even really running. It's just fundraising.

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 4: I got so many fucking texts during that address, begging

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Speaker 4: texts from the Democrats, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: they're still they're so caught in their ways. They're like, yeah, fine, man,

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Speaker 4: we'll just like people be freaking out again, and maybe

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Speaker 4: we can get more money. Although now I think they're

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Speaker 4: realizing people are so fucking disheartened by everything. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 4: the money ain't flown in like it used to.

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Speaker 1: They're willing to try anything except the Bernie Sanders thing

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Speaker 1: that would actually work, because that is Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's the thing that we saw with Biden

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Speaker 1: coming up against certain things and being like a.

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Speaker 2: What can I do?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying over here, and it's like, what's the unspoken thing?

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Speaker 2: You're not saying? What what are you trying?

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Speaker 1: And not able to like yes, there's Republicans in Congress,

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Speaker 1: but it's also.

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Speaker 4: What do you want me to do up end the

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Speaker 4: status quo? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And I think it's a

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Speaker 4: basic thing. I mean, like, going forward, the only people

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Speaker 4: who will be worth listening to or voting for are

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Speaker 4: people who can just very simple premise. The status quo

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Speaker 4: is violent, and it's killing people and every it's making

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Speaker 4: everyone unhappy their meet their needs aren't being met, and

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Speaker 4: we're so far removed from like the even what people

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Speaker 4: call like the good old days when people could have

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Speaker 4: like even like my my grandmother like was a fucking

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Speaker 4: switchboard operator and shit, and my grandfather drove a bus

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Speaker 4: like they were able to do shit and have a

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Speaker 4: house even being black like that shit was kind of

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Speaker 4: possible even then. We're so far from that in the

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Speaker 4: progressive tax policy that we had then, we're just so

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Speaker 4: if you're not if you're not willing to come to

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Speaker 4: the table and be like, hey, guys, everything that's been

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Speaker 4: happening for the last few decades, we have to reverse

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Speaker 4: course on all of this. But that is just far

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Speaker 4: too extreme a mess, like perceived as far to extreme

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Speaker 4: a message from again, the stakeholders of our media and things.

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Speaker 2: Like that, that it's just it's yeah, but that's really

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Speaker 2: what it is. Someone who's like, we just need to

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Speaker 2: change a couple of things. No, we don't. We need

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Speaker 2: to change fucking so many things.

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Speaker 4: And if you're not really saying that with your whole chest,

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Speaker 4: don't waste people's time.

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Speaker 2: Tweak the messaging. Tweak the messaging. Yeah, but think y'all

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Speaker 2: get that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show. If you like, the

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Speaker 1: show means the world de Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. Bye.