Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight,
Speaker 1: episode one of Daly's I Guys Day production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This Well, this is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep to avenue America's air consciousness. And it is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: May thirtieth, twenty twenty three. I would normally know, but
Speaker 1: some sometimes those days are just so far off. I
Speaker 1: can barely I know, I can't. Yeah, we're up. We're
Speaker 1: recording this here on Friday. This is when it's not tomorrow.
Speaker 1: When it's not tomorrow, you're on your own. Wait, what
Speaker 1: is it the twenty seventh? Yeah, oh right, because the
Speaker 1: twenty six it was just Memorial Day, the twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: National Grape Day, National Grape Popsicle Day, National Cellophane Tape.
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow, the two days ago for the Oh shit,
Speaker 1: what is it? What's the day we're looking for? May thirtieth?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're gonna need a May thirtieth. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: coming right up. Man.
Speaker 2: It's a World's Multiple Sclerosis Day, National Creativity Day, National
Speaker 2: Mid JULYIP Day, National Hole in my Bucket Day, National
Speaker 2: Water a Flower Day.
Speaker 1: I don't know a Hole in my Bucket Day? Is
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to know, Miles. Yeas
Speaker 1: they missed National Mint Jewelup Day is actually what every
Speaker 1: day the Kentucky Derby is on and this is this
Speaker 1: is not the time to be celebrated mint julips after
Speaker 1: people have just gotten way too many of them in
Speaker 1: their system. Yeah. Oh and it's for the thing there's
Speaker 1: a hole in my bucket. That's that's it's for that
Speaker 1: for that kids song. Yeah, are you becoming acquainted with
Speaker 1: the American song book? No? You know what.
Speaker 2: I make up a lot of songs. I realized that
Speaker 2: I sing to my kid. Yeah, I'm like, you know me,
Speaker 2: I'm like an improvised so like I just get I
Speaker 2: get fixated on one word and then I turned that
Speaker 2: into a whole song.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I should probably help, you know, socialize it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my kids asked me to improvise, and like, I just
Speaker 1: have the dumbness that like we were reading a Superman
Speaker 1: book and they were when they want me to like
Speaker 1: kind of add jokes, They're like, do it silly, And
Speaker 1: it was just all fart jokes beginning to end. Just
Speaker 1: super That's how Superman flies is by farting and fantastic.
Speaker 1: It was not great. It's not my best material, but
Speaker 1: it killed. Yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 1: All the rich old pricks and their big dumb ships.
Speaker 1: You better run, better run, out run my whales. All
Speaker 1: the rich old bricks and their dumb sailing ships better run,
Speaker 1: better run faster than my orcas. That is courtesy of Lacaroni,
Speaker 1: courtesy of the orcas who are sinking sailing vessels, sailing yachts, yeah,
Speaker 1: off the coast of Portugal, and also telling us in
Speaker 1: retrospect what Free Willie should have been about. We now know.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles Grin Miles Great, this is how I sink your boat.
Speaker 3: You people think that you can flow blame you manadacity baby.
Speaker 3: This is how your yacht will die when the specials
Speaker 3: into the sad blame you manadacity baby.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, shout out to a one nation to the
Speaker 1: tune of sale by Hugo Bosque again another oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was coming through with the bounty Hunter Star Wars
Speaker 1: bounty Hunter reference, there's a there's a second verse where
Speaker 1: Gladys is referenced. But I didn't have the lung capacity
Speaker 1: to get there. But I will say shout out to
Speaker 1: the Gladys reference, shout out White Gladys, the leader of
Speaker 1: the whale Revolution. It's also tough to sing these songs.
Speaker 1: When we have a first time guest, just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta wait for a second verse. We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep going here. No, no, we're a different breed,
Speaker 1: a revolution she will lead. You know, we were gonna
Speaker 1: be doing morning zoo song peries on the Baby Miles.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by very funny comedian, professional tickler who's latest special myself
Speaker 1: just dropped everywhere find comedy albums are bought and sold.
Speaker 1: It's the brilliant, the hilarious Emma or.
Speaker 4: I did not know we were supposed to come with
Speaker 4: a an Orca related song. I would have prepared something.
Speaker 1: Every day in the past three thousand days. You've just
Speaker 1: been coming, even before the work has starts, singing sinking
Speaker 1: the boats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but where you at? Where are you at on
Speaker 2: this God's green Earth? For God's green.
Speaker 4: I am in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1: Boys. Yeah, we talked about the pronunciation before we started.
Speaker 1: I was like, Miles, you bet I'm an ignorant asshole,
Speaker 1: I said, boys, and you're like, oh, fucking embarrass me further.
Speaker 1: I got to sing a an eight wall nation be kay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Emma, you were cool about it. You're like it
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother you. But that is the thing that
Speaker 1: I've heard.
Speaker 4: It is if you're in bois there are people who
Speaker 4: get very salty if you call it Boisey. I don't mind.
Speaker 4: I've always pronounced it both ways. I've been here a
Speaker 4: long time and since I was ten, so I've always
Speaker 4: had it both ways.
Speaker 2: Okay, life, I'm gonna use that like if I go
Speaker 2: and I fuck up and someone gets men like.
Speaker 1: Actually am Arnold said I could, Yeah, yeah, please back up.
Speaker 1: How's the weather in Boisey?
Speaker 4: Boise rainy and nice. It's supposed to be stormy all
Speaker 4: Memorial Weekend, which actually I'm really feeling and because last
Speaker 4: year it was like one hundred and five in the
Speaker 4: early June. It got very hot here very fast. Last year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm loving it. This is exactly what I want. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like MOPy, rainy weather.
Speaker 1: It looks like California is having a similar Memorial Day
Speaker 1: weekend too, mostly gray clouds I'm seeing in the outlook. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty standard. Actually for about this, it's already happened. It's
Speaker 1: already How was your Memorial Day weekend? Everyone all right,
Speaker 1: and we're going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. Yeah, first, a little housekeeping
Speaker 1: up top. For the first time in the history of
Speaker 1: the show, we are trying a new publication schedule out
Speaker 1: for the summer. We're going to scale back to a
Speaker 1: mere eight episodes a week. We're going to try some
Speaker 1: new episode formats out because we want to seems fun.
Speaker 1: So there'll be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday,
Speaker 1: and we'll be trying different formats out. We'll also be
Speaker 1: trying to hear from you. We're asking you to tell
Speaker 1: us about your job. Hit us up with like the
Speaker 1: something people misunderstand about your job, something somebody who works
Speaker 1: in insurance hit us up until we're going to Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to them because that they kind
Speaker 1: of confirmed what I always assumed about the insurance industry.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hit us up at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter
Speaker 1: in the discord, let us know. Former Navy intelligence hitting
Speaker 1: us up. I'm like, yeah, come on, please bring bring
Speaker 1: that to us. No no, no, no, all right, and
Speaker 1: some things we're talking about today. We got the dystopia
Speaker 1: block and then we got the like little glimmers of
Speaker 1: hopefulness block. So the dystopia block will include such stories
Speaker 1: as Neuralink maybe getting FDA approval I mean Elon Musker
Speaker 1: that you know, the companies claiming it did we We
Speaker 1: don't know because they've claimed such ship before. His companies
Speaker 1: have claimed that they got approval when they didn't in
Speaker 1: the past. Fuck that guy. We'll talk about Texas's newest
Speaker 1: solution to school shootings, which is sending home Winnie the
Speaker 1: Pooh books with children. They tell them to run, hide,
Speaker 1: fight in adorable little ways. We will check in with
Speaker 1: Arizona's unhinged COVID hearings, where they're like, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to make make some heads roll the it's how Fauci
Speaker 1: came in and messed the whole dang thing up, But
Speaker 1: it's being run by the people who are the reason
Speaker 1: that Arizona had like one of the highest death rates
Speaker 1: of any with the highest in America and was like
Speaker 1: up there with countries that you know, were the hardest
Speaker 1: hit by COVID and then we'll talk about like a
Speaker 1: Republican in the Hope block, We'll talk talk about France
Speaker 1: making me realize that there is a something called a
Speaker 1: right to repair that I had just taken for granted
Speaker 1: as like not existing because I've grown up in America
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, okay, I know whatever you
Speaker 1: want me to do. A corporation okay, is broken? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have to get a new one. I can't.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. Hey, he's got a new
Speaker 1: You two album on it. Before we get to any
Speaker 1: of that ship Miles, we do want to ask you, Emma,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history?
Speaker 4: The top thing was skeleton popping out out clip.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm glad it wasn't like a web MD. You
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, popping.
Speaker 4: Born hub search. That's the only the only thing I'm
Speaker 4: interested in, really, skeletons popping out. No, my son had
Speaker 4: to do like an end of the year finals thing.
Speaker 4: He had to make a video about a book he
Speaker 4: had read and he needed some help making that, and
Speaker 4: so I, not not to brag, starred in it. I
Speaker 4: did play roles in the video in the video, and
Speaker 4: thank you and his stepdad helped him edit it and
Speaker 4: get it all together. But we needed instead of showing
Speaker 4: a dead body for this scene, we showed a skeleton
Speaker 4: popping out, So okay, we didn't have popping around.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture is it? Is it the like
Speaker 1: cartoon image of like someone dying and then their skeleton
Speaker 1: pops out.
Speaker 4: Of No, like like jump scare, like Indiana Jones style,
Speaker 4: Like you know, like the main character in the book
Speaker 4: finds a skeleton, he finds a dead body essentially, and
Speaker 4: then solves a mystery around the dead body.
Speaker 2: So yeah, wait, so by googling that you were looking
Speaker 2: for like a clip of a skeleton popping out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, including the video into it, we show We show
Speaker 4: him as the main character find opening the door and
Speaker 4: then screaming, and then we showed the skeleton popping out.
Speaker 4: It's wow, it was pretty high quality. It was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How old is your son?
Speaker 4: He is fifteen, he's my youngest.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: And because I remember, like when I was in high
Speaker 2: school again the early two thousands, like the video project
Speaker 2: was like not very common, but I feel like it
Speaker 2: is it becoming more and more common because you can
Speaker 2: do everything on an iPhone basically.
Speaker 4: Now I think so. Yeah, Like they had a couple options.
Speaker 4: I think you could have done you know, the old standbys,
Speaker 4: A die a poster, right, for sure. He wanted to
Speaker 4: do the video though.
Speaker 1: Damn video sounds hard, but I guess when you have
Speaker 1: a star in the household, oh.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Yeah, maybe just well and his
Speaker 4: my husband is a video producer, he's an editor, and
Speaker 4: I going to talk for so anytime there's any kind
Speaker 4: of project like that. My kids are like, would you
Speaker 4: help me with this? And also would you be way
Speaker 4: too into it and make it way too good for
Speaker 4: a high school presentation?
Speaker 1: Would you probably direct a short film for me? That's
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 4: I saw him, I saw him doing the title screen
Speaker 4: and stuff, and I was like, again, I just want
Speaker 4: to remind you that this is for a ninth grade final,
Speaker 4: not an Emmy nomination. And he didn't matter. We've been
Speaker 4: together long, and iough, I don't try to tap the
Speaker 4: brakes as much anymore. I just am like, he's going
Speaker 4: to do this, He's going to spend seven hours making
Speaker 4: sure this is the most beautiful. He colorized it, do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I got to put it through Da Vinci. If
Speaker 1: this isn't color corrected. I look like an asshole.
Speaker 2: And yeah, fuck it, I'm going to use flame and
Speaker 2: some three D visual effects to make some.
Speaker 4: Cool title stunning. It's stunning. Feature is going to be
Speaker 4: very impressed.
Speaker 1: So and also a note for books like an improvement
Speaker 1: on the book books suck it jump scares. I've always
Speaker 1: said that, yeah, you know, here you go, here's something
Speaker 1: that my project has that this piece of shit never
Speaker 1: couldn't do. Yeah, I don't know. I always have a
Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder whenever I'm doing a book report.
Speaker 1: I guess this is what I think. So book sucked?
Speaker 1: What was believe that?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I can't remember the name. But actually
Speaker 4: I was very impressed. You know, we live in Idaho
Speaker 4: and we've had politically this year, a ton of stuff
Speaker 4: happened with libraries. They tried to shut down a big
Speaker 4: chunk of our libraries. They are a ton of book
Speaker 4: banning stuff. And I was really impressed. It was a
Speaker 4: book about a young adult book about the Tulsa massacre
Speaker 4: and sort of these a child in the past. And
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I can't remember the name, but I also
Speaker 4: I didn't read it. He just I just helped with
Speaker 4: this project. But it was really really cool. It was
Speaker 4: he was telling me about it. He was really excited
Speaker 4: about it, and it's exactly the kind of book that's
Speaker 4: getting pulled from our school system right now. So I
Speaker 4: thought it was really cool that his teacher picked that
Speaker 4: book out. It was it was really interesting, Like the
Speaker 4: way he was describing it. I was like, this is
Speaker 4: so cool. I didn't hear about the Tulsa massacre and
Speaker 4: tel Watchmen, you know, because I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: what you know, and like, I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people and then yeah, it was really really cool. He's
Speaker 4: already learned about that and he was telling me the
Speaker 4: history of the Tulsa massacre, and I thought that was
Speaker 4: pretty cool of his teacher to choose that book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, especial especially given the stakes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my seven year old about World
Speaker 1: War Two yesterday because they were like, what's Memorial Day
Speaker 1: and like what are the wars that America has fought in?
Speaker 1: And then he was like, oh, yeah, and America won
Speaker 1: in World War Two because they fought on the side
Speaker 1: with the biggest country and the most people, Russia. And
Speaker 1: I was like that was not something I like that
Speaker 1: that is correct, but that was something that like I
Speaker 1: had to like write into an article at Cracked about
Speaker 1: like here's some dumb shit that you believe about World
Speaker 1: War two that you know like that. So really, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does feel like they're doing a little bit better
Speaker 1: of a job. Yeah, who actually defeated the Nazis the Russia.
Speaker 4: I looked at it up just because I felt bad.
Speaker 4: It's Dreamland Burning by Jennifer Laysam, and he really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Very cool. What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: This is I don't know, maybe kind of a basic one,
Speaker 4: but it's it's kind of top of my head football.
Speaker 4: I just think football is really overrated. And that's partly
Speaker 4: because so my oldest sorry, my middle kid, was a
Speaker 4: senior this year. He was always really into music, and
Speaker 4: then this year he decided to start playing a bunch
Speaker 4: of sports randomly. He became like mister sports guy and
Speaker 4: he did football, wrestling, and rugby. And football was so boring,
Speaker 4: Like you'd be there for like five hours. They play
Speaker 4: like once every eighteen minutes. They played for thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: It's so boring. I hated every second. I've never like football,
Speaker 4: And I was telling a friend of mine. A friend
Speaker 4: of mine, a guy I dated who was a professional footballlayer.
Speaker 4: I was telling him, or used to be. I was
Speaker 4: telling him about it, and he was like, well, football
Speaker 4: is just like chess, you know, you got to think
Speaker 4: about it like that, and like, also super boring to watch,
Speaker 4: like chess, that's not a.
Speaker 1: Ring really exciting chess.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, I don't want to watch. I'd
Speaker 4: rather watch chess. I love chess. But then my kid
Speaker 4: played rugby and actually they took state. It was a
Speaker 4: big deal. They were like, somebody should make a movie
Speaker 4: about it. When the writer strike is over, hit me up,
Speaker 4: you should make a movie. They were the underdogs. They
Speaker 4: had not enough people on their team. Every player had
Speaker 4: to play the entire time basically, which rugby is like soccer.
Speaker 4: You are running, running, running, And they ended up taking
Speaker 4: State and it was really cool. But rugby is so
Speaker 4: fun to watch. And I don't understand why football is
Speaker 4: like our national pastime when it's horribly boring. Everybody gets
Speaker 4: head injuries.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 4: Rugby is so fun. Also, oh my gosh, this is
Speaker 4: since you're your dad's you're gonna love this too. After
Speaker 4: the match, they get into a big huddle. Both teams
Speaker 4: shake hands, they get into a big huddle, and then
Speaker 4: they stand up and they take turns saying something from
Speaker 4: the other team that they admired, and so they yeah,
Speaker 4: And I mean after every match, I literally was like
Speaker 4: sobbing because it was so sweet, like they were just
Speaker 4: they would get up and be like, yo, number twenty two,
Speaker 4: I thought that tuckle you did on me, it was
Speaker 4: like really tight, so great job. And then number twenty
Speaker 4: two gets up and he says something. So it's just
Speaker 4: like the whole thing is about like camaraderie and like
Speaker 4: when the kids get tackled, they're like hugging each other
Speaker 4: afterward and laughing and like, whereas football was very like
Speaker 4: toxic masculinity. And also the parents Football parents maniac screaming
Speaker 4: horrible things. Like I would go to those games and
Speaker 4: be like these are children, just so we're clear still children,
Speaker 4: But rugby parents, it is all very cool, very fun,
Speaker 4: fun to sit with, you know. So yeah, football overroted.
Speaker 4: I think we should toss it.
Speaker 2: There was like there's that Winston Churchill quote about it,
Speaker 2: like he said the difference between soccer and rugby's like
Speaker 2: soccer is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, and rugby
Speaker 2: is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen. Are you're saying
Speaker 2: that made me really think about being like all right,
Speaker 2: and good day to view number twenty two solid tackle.
Speaker 1: I did separate my shoulder there.
Speaker 4: My kid is gigantic. He's like six or five, and
Speaker 4: the first day of rugby he came home and I
Speaker 4: was like, did you how was it? Did you like it?
Speaker 4: It was like recess with linemen.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 4: That was like lunch recess where you're just like running
Speaker 4: around slamming into each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, By the way, it sounds like your son
Speaker 1: is like a tremendous athlete. Yeah. This year, for my
Speaker 1: senior year, I decided to like play all the sports
Speaker 1: and like win state in one of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Congratulations, thank you, thank you. Congratulations to the team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: I just watched Nanny, directed by nik Yatu Jusu, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've heard of its phenomenal. I
Speaker 4: feel like it's not getting enough love. Not I've hardly
Speaker 4: seen anybody talking about it. It's so beautifully shot, it's
Speaker 4: it's like a psychological horror movie about a nanny who
Speaker 4: works for this wealthy white family and she is black.
Speaker 4: And it is so good and it is chilling and
Speaker 4: beautiful and heartbreaking and just a really incredible film. So yeah,
Speaker 4: and I haven't seen seen like hardly anybody talking about it,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Came out in twenty twenty two, and I remember
Speaker 1: when it came out, like the reviews were so positive
Speaker 1: and I was like, I've got to see this, and
Speaker 1: then it just disappeared from yeah, like the conversation. So yeah, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think people were a little like just in a horror movie,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's sure, it's real, it's different and
Speaker 4: it's real, and it's it's really interesting and h and
Speaker 4: they take it in like incredible directions. So I think
Speaker 4: kind of horror fans were some horror fans were a
Speaker 4: little like I just think during that. Yeah, so they
Speaker 4: didn't like it, But I loved it. I thought it
Speaker 4: was absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: And you can watch that. It would appear on Max
Speaker 1: the one to watch dot com And I just said,
Speaker 1: Nanny where to watch because I speak to Google like
Speaker 1: I'm just learning the English language, and mine says, you
Speaker 1: have to throw your your pennies at your your tuppens
Speaker 1: at Jeff Bezos for this one.
Speaker 4: Oh really Yeah, I watched it on Amazon Prime, but
Speaker 4: I think it's up around.
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, look pick your poison. You know it can
Speaker 1: be Miles. Miles has a professional relationship with Bezos, and
Speaker 1: I have one with zas Love. So our listeners know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're always doing the work. Got we gotta chat through
Speaker 1: bald bros. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about some dystopian ship. And
Speaker 1: we're back. It's the Dystopia block, all right. So Neuralink
Speaker 1: got FDA approval, is what all the headlines are saying.
Speaker 1: The story goes they received long awaited FDA approval to
Speaker 1: begin brain tests and human subjects suing. The company will
Speaker 1: conduct invasive brain surgery on humans to determine whether it's
Speaker 1: mind reading technology can help people with severe paralysis regain
Speaker 1: control over their bodies using only neural signals. But Elon
Speaker 1: Musk has also said that like he wants this to
Speaker 1: basically turn us all into cyborgs. Like, yeah, basically this
Speaker 1: is stepping stone for Elon Musk to achieve a symbiosis
Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence, and yeah, this is this is whild
Speaker 1: because I get where they're starting, right, They're starting from
Speaker 1: like a noble place about trying to help people with paralysis,
Speaker 1: you know, like and using this. But then like when
Speaker 1: you zoom out to what his endgame is, he's like,
Speaker 1: I want to merge the human brain with AI. And
Speaker 1: we just saw what.
Speaker 2: Happened in that Ronda Santis Twitter space fiasco. The guy
Speaker 2: can't even get a live stream fucking going that. Now,
Speaker 2: I love that. The way this is where it is
Speaker 2: to begin invasive brain surgery to determine whether it.
Speaker 1: Can help people. So what happens for the you know,
Speaker 1: the ones that that they determined it does not work
Speaker 1: in fact work. Yeah, it had previously been rejected for
Speaker 1: just like the sloppiest sounding reasons. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were concerned about the like they you need to
Speaker 1: put a stick a lithium battery in there, and also
Speaker 1: they're worried that like wires could migrate to other areas
Speaker 1: of the brain and we we also and also whether
Speaker 1: the device could be removed without damaging brain tissue. All
Speaker 1: seem pretty like pretty big significant concerns. We should also
Speaker 1: note that he has said before. This news is only
Speaker 1: coming from neuralink, and Elon Musk has falsely touted regulatory
Speaker 1: approval before. In twenty seventeen, he wrote on Twitter that
Speaker 1: his tunneling firm, The Boring Company, had received verbal government
Speaker 1: approval for an underground hyperloop from New York to DC,
Speaker 1: and that was news to every official involved in approval
Speaker 1: from New York to DC. Yeah, em what you on, Emma?
Speaker 1: Where are you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you part of this seventy eight percent of people
Speaker 2: that have said I'm not interested in shoving shit into
Speaker 2: my brain?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I think I'm hard in that seventy eight percent.
Speaker 4: It makes me sad because I feel like I'm a
Speaker 4: huge star trek man, and I feel like this is
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that, like, you know, ten years ago,
Speaker 4: I would have gotten pretty excited about and like we're
Speaker 4: doing it. Look, we're doing it. But now it's like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna get a Tesla lobotomy. I think, No,
Speaker 4: I don't think I'll do that. Yeah. I think, like
Speaker 4: you said, like, Elon Musk has shown himself to be
Speaker 4: incompetent in pretty much every area. So yeah, no. And
Speaker 4: and also I saw a line in that article that
Speaker 4: was talking about like like you were saying the wires.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're doing this with wires, that's where that's
Speaker 4: where we're at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh we're we're.
Speaker 4: We have a lithium battery. Like this is like a walkman,
Speaker 4: you glue to your head Like I don't. Yeah, just
Speaker 4: doesn't sound very high tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't fly in an airplane though, with that
Speaker 2: lithium battery in your skull. Hold on, but you got
Speaker 2: a lithium battery up there?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck? No, no, no, you don't need like major
Speaker 1: brain surgery every time the double as run out and
Speaker 1: you need to replace them.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's really I mean, like I get to
Speaker 2: like to to your point right all the time.
Speaker 1: I feel like, even as a kid, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder I wish there were glasses you could look
Speaker 1: at somebody and like know what they do for a living,
Speaker 1: or like pull this data or whatever. Like you're so
Speaker 1: like I was so curious as a kid. That's exactly
Speaker 1: the only way I've ever been able to conceive of
Speaker 1: this is right, give me a terminator vision exactly.
Speaker 2: But now I think as we see just how like
Speaker 2: the difference between like what we maybe expect to happen,
Speaker 2: and then you see the people that are involved in
Speaker 2: making it happen.
Speaker 5: You're like, ah, no, no, no, no, I don't trust this.
Speaker 5: Got to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to
Speaker 5: merge your brain with AI. Yeah, how's that You're already
Speaker 5: a creative person, But what if you could just you know,
Speaker 5: muddle all of that ability to think by having a
Speaker 5: bunch more data being fed into your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he kind of threatens you with it, like, listen,
Speaker 4: even in a benign scenario, humans will be left behind
Speaker 4: by AI, so you might as well just merge them
Speaker 4: into your brain for a best case scenario. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a great reason for that.
Speaker 1: In a quote, he said, it's not going to be
Speaker 1: suddenly neuralink will have this neural lace and start taking
Speaker 1: over people's brains. Ultimately, he wants to achieve a symbiosis
Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence, and even in a benign scenario, humans
Speaker 1: would be left behind. So it's like, you know, in
Speaker 1: his ideal scenario, you are creating a group of superhumans
Speaker 1: who can afford like massively expensive elective surgery to like
Speaker 1: enhance their brains. And that's his ideal scenario of course,
Speaker 1: because as he's let us know, like he is a
Speaker 1: fucking fascist Nazi, so like, of course that's kind of
Speaker 1: his end goal is to make it so that wealthy
Speaker 1: people can you know, turn themselves into uberminch. Help me,
Speaker 1: like understand what is this benign scenario like where or
Speaker 1: even like where you're like, damn, I'm glad I got
Speaker 1: that chip because what you have the chip and now
Speaker 1: what you're you have a job in advertising because you
Speaker 1: can just like like regurgitate chat GPT like it's coming
Speaker 1: from your mind or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this whole thing is just like when he bought Twitter,
Speaker 4: where it just comes down to basically his own insecurity.
Speaker 4: And I feel like this is basically Elon Musk being
Speaker 4: like I'm not a smart man, right, and I need
Speaker 4: a chip in my brain so it can seem like
Speaker 4: a smart man.
Speaker 1: Right. He's like right, basically that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess that's that's in the benign scenario.
Speaker 4: You're like somebody's like, huh, I wonder what the weather
Speaker 4: is next week, and you can just boom, you accessed it.
Speaker 4: You know, you're like wait slink twice and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We talked about how that interview where he like came
Speaker 1: up completely blank for like fifteen seconds and then just
Speaker 1: like described a gift from a movie from like this Bride. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like he is like man that everybody would
Speaker 1: want that. It's like no, just just you man, your
Speaker 1: brain is like uniquely uncreative and weird and like even
Speaker 1: as a product, Like if I'm just like stepping back
Speaker 1: and like viewing this as like if you're an investor,
Speaker 1: like the thing that is like unique about humans, Like
Speaker 1: if you just think about when you learn to drive
Speaker 1: a car and suddenly like the car becomes an extension
Speaker 1: of your body. Like it's not because it's like implanted
Speaker 1: in your brain. It's that you like humans are really
Speaker 1: good at just like learning things, and then those things
Speaker 1: like become kind of invisible and it becomes sort of
Speaker 1: like a neural input. You don't need to do brain
Speaker 1: surgery to achieve that. Like that like the product that
Speaker 1: ultimately will do well is something that achieves what he's
Speaker 1: looking to do, but doesn't need to be fucking like
Speaker 1: you don't need to like cut a hole in someone's
Speaker 1: skull to like start using it. You know, like it'll
Speaker 1: probably be like glasses or like you know, there are people.
Speaker 1: They're neuroscientists who have experimented with like a little sensor
Speaker 1: that goes on the on your back and like sends
Speaker 1: you messages via just like a coat of like electrical
Speaker 1: stimulations that you learn their people who have done it
Speaker 1: with like little electrical stimulations on your tongue and like
Speaker 1: that allows blind people to kind of get a map
Speaker 1: of like what's around them. So like that there are
Speaker 1: better versions of this. His is just like the shitty,
Speaker 1: flashy version.
Speaker 2: I feel yell and it starts off in a good
Speaker 2: place where you're like, I'm trying to see if the
Speaker 2: tech technologically we can help people that like wouldn't that
Speaker 2: could probably help from this potentially mind reading technology. So
Speaker 2: when he's saying but at the end of the day, though, yeah,
Speaker 2: what this ship is really for is to get your
Speaker 2: brain hooked up to AI. And again, I really don't
Speaker 2: see the use case for that. If I'm nice, again,
Speaker 2: like you're saying, you're such a dufus, Like you're the
Speaker 2: kind of guy, like he seems like the kind of
Speaker 2: guy who like sleep with the textbook under his pillow
Speaker 2: and be like that's.
Speaker 1: How less study for the test. It'll happen like this, and.
Speaker 4: Now you're just like, read the fucking book, mak, Yeah,
Speaker 4: read the book.
Speaker 2: No you need a fucking brain chip. No, I need
Speaker 2: a brain implant. So next time I'm asking to say exactly,
Speaker 2: I'll have it, just I'll download it.
Speaker 4: I think it's sad because I feel, like, like you said,
Speaker 4: there's these practical applications, but even beyond, you know, helping
Speaker 4: someone who's paralyzed or someone who's blind or deaf or
Speaker 4: something navigate the world a little easier. I think it's
Speaker 4: sad because, like something like this, some sort of neuralink
Speaker 4: could be used for like communication, for connection, for like
Speaker 4: bringing us all together. But because of capitalism, it's like fascism.
Speaker 4: That's what it'll be used for. Is fascism. For sure.
Speaker 1: It's superhuman and leaving other humans behind. Now, oh cool,
Speaker 1: but what we all want to thank you? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, I feel like it'll
Speaker 1: look like World War Z, where all like the global
Speaker 1: pores are like like running like at their spaceships to
Speaker 1: bring them down manually as they try to leave. It's
Speaker 1: not going to be because you have neurallink. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: another little piece of dystopia, Like all the shit could
Speaker 1: be from Black Mirror easily. This one low tech. This
Speaker 1: is low tech back. This is a little low low tech,
Speaker 1: but it is I don't know. It seems like a
Speaker 1: piece with the ethos of some of the kind of
Speaker 1: cultures and civilizations you see in Black Mirror. Texas keeps
Speaker 1: loosening gun laws, but not to worry, because school children
Speaker 1: are being given books starring Winnie the Pooh, in which
Speaker 1: Winnie the Pooh and friends teach children what to do
Speaker 1: if there's an active shooter in their school. It says,
Speaker 1: like what one of the pages we have here, if
Speaker 1: there is danger, the police will come fast to catch
Speaker 1: the stranger. Until then, remember what Pooh and his crew
Speaker 1: said to do? Run, hide, fight? That is so that
Speaker 1: just breaks my fucking heart. You're a child has like
Speaker 1: in the fucking font is so like you know, kid's
Speaker 1: book and it's like the words are balloons. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I feel bad for kids in Texas because
Speaker 1: because the anniversary of Uvalde was just last week. But
Speaker 1: you're saying if if there's danger, the police will come fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure even that part is true, Like
Speaker 2: there's and then on top of it, be like okay,
Speaker 2: so here's what to do.
Speaker 1: Here's a great entry point, Winnie the Pooh. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the hide page, there's a picture of Poo with his
Speaker 1: head in a pot of honey, which seems like a
Speaker 1: terrible hiding place and also seems pretty dangerous, Like you
Speaker 1: at this age, it's just the people who design this
Speaker 1: book are like so out of out of touch with
Speaker 1: like what you are worried about when you're a parent
Speaker 1: that like you don't want children sticking their heads in
Speaker 1: like small small things like that.
Speaker 4: No, like the fight page, the fight page, Okay, the
Speaker 4: whole thing is bleak enough, but run and hide. You're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: i'd have to tell my seven year old to do that.
Speaker 1: Fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're telling these kids to fight back now against
Speaker 4: the gunman?
Speaker 1: Is there.
Speaker 4: I don't see the page here, but you know, like
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, everybody, get your broomsticks or something. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even get your get your little scissors that
Speaker 4: at the that have like the blunt point so that
Speaker 4: you can't put yourself.
Speaker 1: For safety scissors.
Speaker 4: Right, you've got your marks. Like it's so bleak, it's
Speaker 4: so terrible.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like you can stay safe
Speaker 1: with scissors, just the same drag this blade across their
Speaker 1: jugular vein and you're like, what the fuck you? What
Speaker 1: is this? Ebit? Yeah, it's yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: have the book, so I'm not sure what the fight,
Speaker 1: you know, advice is, but hope can we imagine? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then in Texas's neighbor are they neighbors Texas and Arizona.
Speaker 1: Arizona has something going on, So that Arizona State Senate
Speaker 1: just held a special committee to investigate the government's response
Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen on the local, state, and federal level,
Speaker 1: which I think that in theory, sure there were some
Speaker 1: big fuck ups that happened. It lasted for two whole
Speaker 1: days on Thursday and Friday, with an all Republican committee
Speaker 1: inviting the testimonies of a bunch of conspiracy theorists and
Speaker 1: bullshit artists. Also, it's called the novel Coronavirus Southwestern Intergovernmental Committee,
Speaker 1: which seems like it's like, all right, that's a big
Speaker 1: mouthful of words. Why would they have named it that.
Speaker 1: It's because that acronym works out to a QAnon dog whistle,
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, So it actually there's a q Andon phrase,
Speaker 1: nothing can stop what is coming, and they were like,
Speaker 1: that's how we'll let them know that we get what's
Speaker 1: going on here.
Speaker 2: It's wild though, too, like that it's chaired by this
Speaker 2: woman's state centator, Janey shamp a former nurse who was
Speaker 2: fired for refusing to get vaccinated. Like, yeah, that you
Speaker 2: see what the bona fides are for people to run
Speaker 2: for office these days. It's like, this woman is running
Speaker 2: for New York State Legislature. She's the woman who got
Speaker 2: in a fight over a city bike with some young
Speaker 2: black kids, Like you remember her, She should be in
Speaker 2: the government, and now like this is your campaign. Shit,
Speaker 2: it's like I should be in the government because I
Speaker 2: wouldn't get vaccinated and I'm one of the martyrs. And
Speaker 2: you're like, yep, yep, yep, yep, good enough for us,
Speaker 2: and cut to this complete, just fucking clown show where
Speaker 2: they're completely you know, turning the tension away from the
Speaker 2: actual roots of maybe what happened in their state that
Speaker 2: made them, you know, suffer the worst fatalities in terms
Speaker 2: of like per capita for yeah, like in the United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst death rate of any state in the US.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm living this up here. So you know,
Speaker 4: in Idaho, like during our legislative session, there was a
Speaker 4: bill introduced in the House to make mRNA vaccines illegal,
Speaker 4: right and administering them illegal. So and like in our
Speaker 4: health our health board, there's like a q Andon doctor,
Speaker 4: Ryan Cole, look him up. He's like a q Andon
Speaker 4: conspiracy guy. He says that it caused the vaccines caused cancer. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, that's exactly the kind of stuff happening up here.
Speaker 4: And we had high death rates up here, especially for
Speaker 4: how small of our population is, and tons and tons
Speaker 4: of disabled people because of long COVID and stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 4: kind of the exact same thing happening up here. All
Speaker 4: Republican you know, pretty much all Republicans House passing things
Speaker 4: like we're gonna make m RN it all right, We're
Speaker 4: gonna make mRNA illegal, the entire thing.
Speaker 1: So it's weird.
Speaker 4: I feel it for Arizona on this one, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Weird because it's there's like this weird like they can't reconcile,
Speaker 2: like their anger of that there's a pandemic, but also
Speaker 2: there's clearly like a mortal fear of what it could
Speaker 2: happen to you while also trying to persuade yourself that
Speaker 2: it's nothing at all. Yeah, And like balancing all those
Speaker 2: is so wild because it just leads you to be
Speaker 2: like like because they're angry, like we need to figure
Speaker 2: out what went wrong, because some people will reference that
Speaker 2: people died, but then they're like, but it's not the vaccines.
Speaker 1: We want hydroxy chloric When you're like what the fuck, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so is it a threat? Is it not a threat?
Speaker 1: Are you scared? Or or am I a pussy because
Speaker 1: I wear a mask?
Speaker 4: Like we had we had protests like all through you know,
Speaker 4: the first year of COVID, we had protests up here
Speaker 4: in Boise at the capitol like almost every weekend of
Speaker 4: people there earning masks, protesting the mandates. Never had a
Speaker 4: single mandate in Idaho, never had a mask mandate, never
Speaker 4: had like closure mandate. Like everything was very wide open
Speaker 4: and like you could kill as many old people as
Speaker 4: you wanted in Idaho, And but people were still there,
Speaker 4: like you said, like they're so angry and they're so mad,
Speaker 4: and they would be down there protesting mask mandates when
Speaker 4: they're like it was it was people were so angry
Speaker 4: and they never really figured out why I think, and
Speaker 4: they're still really angry, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The people on this, like the members of the Arizona Board,
Speaker 1: include people who decry masks as a form of tyranny,
Speaker 1: Like don't they in retrospect, like after we've got some distance,
Speaker 1: like realize how stupid that is or no. And they're
Speaker 1: also like pushing i've remect in hydroxychloroquin and calling for
Speaker 1: investigations into doctor Fauci. But yeah, I mean, as we reference,
Speaker 1: like they should be doing that. People should be looking
Speaker 1: into Arizona's mishandling of COVID and definitely mishandling of COVID
Speaker 1: at the federal level. But in the case of Arizona,
Speaker 1: it was the only state in the nation where COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen was the leading cause of death during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Former Governor Steve Doocy pandered to conspiracy driven politicians by
Speaker 1: resisting lockdowns, issuing executive orders prohibiting vaccine mandates. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the death rate was about the same as the world
Speaker 1: the world's hardest hit countries, including Russia, Bulgaria, and Peru.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we need to be looking at these things,
Speaker 1: but instead they're being looked at by the people who
Speaker 1: caused the problem. Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's it's kind of I don't want to say genius,
Speaker 2: but the way they've co opted the fear around it,
Speaker 2: and they've been able to like blend it together with
Speaker 2: like economic anxieties and things too, because people will say
Speaker 2: lockdown equals loss of income, although I've been experiencing a
Speaker 2: loss of income for decades now, and by sort of
Speaker 2: putting that in front of people, you can now all
Speaker 2: of that anger is really about COVID and these masks
Speaker 2: and shit like that, when really it's not that. It's
Speaker 2: the lack of support and the inequality that fucking ninety
Speaker 2: eight percent of Americans are experiencing. So on that level,
Speaker 2: they've really done it. They've really done a great job
Speaker 2: of just being like no, no, no, no, don't forget not
Speaker 2: economic issues.
Speaker 1: It's these fucking tyrannical mask people, right and yeah, and
Speaker 1: immediately people can connect with like, yeah, I didn't work,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's true, not because of you know, uh,
Speaker 1: these like the greed of you know, business owners or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our writer Jam actually
Speaker 1: tuned into this for a minute on Friday, and there
Speaker 1: was a guy just ranting about hydroxychloroquin with a piece
Speaker 1: of clip art of the Genie from Aladdin as a
Speaker 1: visual aid. So you know, they all hate Disney until
Speaker 1: it's time to make a PowerPoint presentation and then it's
Speaker 1: I don't even know what.
Speaker 2: I don't understand this slide. It says when the lancet said,
Speaker 2: hydroxychloroquin causes ventricular arrhythmia, and then it's like the Genie
Speaker 2: coming out of the land.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you haven't seen the reveal yet, Miles, It's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. Is it like you've never had a
Speaker 1: friend like me? Is it referencing a song? Like? What
Speaker 1: what am I? What connection am I supposed to make
Speaker 1: with the genie? Robin Williams. Yeah, fun, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Guess maybe it's just enough to be like and Disney.
Speaker 2: So there's that, and people like huh huh yeah, bad,
Speaker 2: all bad, Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we will
Speaker 1: come back and talk about a couple good hopeful, good good.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, And
Speaker 1: that a Republican read some medical research and not the
Speaker 1: do your own research no medical research, but like actual
Speaker 1: medical papers, and.
Speaker 2: That is like news listen to like every you know,
Speaker 2: professional medical association and pediatric care group.
Speaker 1: So my mind is still bon So. Louisiana State Senator.
Speaker 2: Fred Mills is a Republican, Okay, And just to just
Speaker 2: so you know what kind of Republican he has, like
Speaker 2: a flawless record as an anti abortion sikhoh, like he's
Speaker 2: got one of those perfect ratings from those anti abortion groups.
Speaker 2: But he just used his position to make his state
Speaker 2: the first in the South that has voted down a
Speaker 2: ban on gender affirming care for minors.
Speaker 1: And you're like, huh what. As the chair of the Health.
Speaker 2: And Welfare Committee, he blocked a a gender affirming care
Speaker 2: band bill from reaching a floor vote. And you're probably thinking,
Speaker 2: is this one of those moves where they vote down
Speaker 2: like the super vile, extreme fucked up version to make
Speaker 2: it seem like, Okay, we're not that bad, and then
Speaker 2: just replace it with one that's just like a couple
Speaker 2: degrees less like fucked up. No, it's that he read
Speaker 2: medical reports and analysis. He read the report from his
Speaker 2: own state, the State of Louisiana's Department of Health, that
Speaker 2: said what basically all medical professionals have been saying about
Speaker 2: gender affirming care. No, it's not mutilation. It absolutely saves kids' lives.
Speaker 2: It's not something people come to regret like at some
Speaker 2: kind of ridiculous thirty percent rate or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like those weird talking points that Republicans have.
Speaker 2: Most kids getting this kind of care are around fifteen
Speaker 2: and seventeen, not four years old. Also, no minor child
Speaker 2: has ever received any kind of fucking surgery, despite all
Speaker 2: the lies you hear about like these doctors who will
Speaker 2: like mutilate your child, this, that, and the other. So
Speaker 2: when he voted to kill the bill, he basically said,
Speaker 2: I read the reports and the stats, and I was
Speaker 2: convinced that this is something that should be left between
Speaker 2: a patient and a doctor, because ultimately I trust doctors
Speaker 2: and that they're not like groomer pedo demons like my
Speaker 2: colleagues have been saying.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just read the thing.
Speaker 1: And again it's important to note that while there's this
Speaker 1: report from the Department of Health of Department of Health
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, there was a similar report from Florida last
Speaker 1: year that a lot of Republicans have been waving around
Speaker 1: to be like, look at this report on gender affirming
Speaker 1: care from Florida. Okay, this is this is why, this
Speaker 1: is what we're fighting for. This is the report, as
Speaker 1: you can imagine, coming from Ronda Santiss, Florida, was devoid
Speaker 1: of any kind of real medical research or anything. This
Speaker 1: is what This is how a Yale professor categorized this
Speaker 1: quote unquote medical report from Florida. Quote.
Speaker 2: The report makes false statements and contains glaring errors regarding science,
Speaker 2: statistical methods, and medicine, ignoring established science and long standing
Speaker 2: authoritative clinical guidance. The report instead relies on biased and
Speaker 2: discredited sources, including purported quote expert reports that carry no
Speaker 2: scientific weight due to lack of expertise and bias. So
Speaker 2: repeated and fundamental. So repeated and fundamental are the errors
Speaker 2: in the June second report that it seems clear that
Speaker 2: the report is not a serious scientific analysis, but rather
Speaker 2: a document crafted to serve a police agenda. And you're like, wow,
Speaker 2: how did this happen? Anyway, the whack jobs and his
Speaker 2: party already calling for the bill to be bypassed and sent.
Speaker 1: To the floor for a full vote.
Speaker 2: The governor in Louisiana is a Democrat and he would
Speaker 2: most likely veto it. But again, it's a fully read
Speaker 2: state House, so they could override the veto, so it
Speaker 2: could be an interesting merry go around. But for now,
Speaker 2: this is a great moment for anybody who is who
Speaker 2: gives a shit about gender affirming care and writes for
Speaker 2: trans people, and just a brief it's just like this
Speaker 2: weird moment where a guy that looks like a cartoon
Speaker 2: version of Republican like actually read the facts and I'm
Speaker 2: still I'm still shaken to my core. And yeah, now
Speaker 2: he's being harassed, like the national right wing apparatus is
Speaker 2: like this guy's a groomer and already coming after him.
Speaker 2: And when he was asked by the local paper if
Speaker 2: he cared about all the people focused on him, he said, quote,
Speaker 2: why should I didn't run to serve them?
Speaker 1: They don't live in District twenty two. They don't even
Speaker 1: have a three three seven area code. Wow. Interesting think
Speaker 1: for yourself sometimes, Yeah, it pays off. It's just yeah,
Speaker 1: the similar thing happened. I feel like in Utah where
Speaker 1: they had like a super hardline bill and there.
Speaker 4: Was like well when pasted in Idaho. Up here this session,
Speaker 4: HB seventy one passed the House that it bans all
Speaker 4: gender firming care for minors. The governor signed it becomes
Speaker 4: law January first up here, and we're all ready between
Speaker 4: that and our extremely draconian anti abortion laws, we're actually
Speaker 4: seeing a ton of medical professionals leave the state. We're
Speaker 4: losing a ton of doctors. Because I talked to a
Speaker 4: doctor on my podcast or our podcast, I guess, but
Speaker 4: he said that, like, you know, you go to school
Speaker 4: for ten to fifteen years, you can't risk a felony charge.
Speaker 4: You can lose your medical license for a felony charge.
Speaker 4: And all it takes is somebody to say that you
Speaker 4: provided gender firming care to a minor. You don't even
Speaker 4: have to be fully indicted and everything like that and
Speaker 4: be found guilty, because what will happen is just the
Speaker 4: charge itself will make it so that you lose your
Speaker 4: malpractice insurance and you can never get it back once
Speaker 4: you've lost it. It's very difficult. So he's they were
Speaker 4: like losing tons and tons of doctors from the state
Speaker 4: right now because they're like, I'm not going to fuck
Speaker 4: with that. I'm not going to risk losing my malpractice insurance.
Speaker 4: And I kind of feel like in a way that Idaho,
Speaker 4: you know, the Idaho, Utah, Florida. These places were like
Speaker 4: test cases for these really horrible, horrible laws, and what
Speaker 4: you're seeing is places like Louisiana say, oh, actually, maybe
Speaker 4: this is a terrible fucking idea. Also, sadly, I watched
Speaker 4: all the hearings for HB seventy one, and it was very,
Speaker 4: very heartbreaking to see how many of the Republican senators
Speaker 4: and House members said, I read the research, this all
Speaker 4: the research goes against this bill. I have trans family members,
Speaker 4: that this will affect minors, I think this bill is terrible.
Speaker 4: Still voted for it. They all still voted for it.
Speaker 4: And it was like a ton of people who were like,
Speaker 4: I'm morally opposed to this, and then still voted for
Speaker 4: it because they didn't want to deal with the falloup.
Speaker 4: They didn't want to to deal with the national right
Speaker 4: wing you know, fascist machine coming after them, so they
Speaker 4: just voted.
Speaker 1: For it, right. Yeah. I mean it's it's like, it's
Speaker 1: so this the the way this guy looks. I gotta
Speaker 1: show you this guy, doctor Fred Mills. He like, if
Speaker 1: I just showed you, based off just a vibe check,
Speaker 1: be like this Republican you think he's a where do
Speaker 1: you think he lies there. He's got like a like
Speaker 1: an all white seersucker suit, like he looks like fob
Speaker 1: Horn Leghorn as a doctor or some shit. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it is like again, and I think this is only
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that his background is a
Speaker 1: pharmacist probably led him to have half a fucking brain
Speaker 1: when it comes to like medical research to know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's shit, I don't know. Yeah, and if all of
Speaker 1: these professionals who like I know are not like like
Speaker 1: you know, gooney whack jobs, are saying this is actually
Speaker 1: beneficial for these like young people, who the fuck am
Speaker 1: I have like pushed back against that. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: like a lot of people suspect, you know, his terms
Speaker 1: coming up and this is maybe like his last act
Speaker 1: to do something like normal before like you know, exiting politics.
Speaker 1: But my god, yeah, he clearly wasn't phazed by like
Speaker 1: people like Matt Walsh coming after him. Because we're seeing constantly,
Speaker 1: like you know, like we talked about last week the
Speaker 1: target stuff, how many how easily you're seeing people cave
Speaker 1: to this kind of outrage in a time that like
Speaker 1: you know, this the attacks on like gay and transgender
Speaker 1: people in America is just it's like there have been
Speaker 1: a hundred bills I think that have been anti LGBTQ
Speaker 1: bills that have signed in the last five years, and
Speaker 1: fifty of them have come this year. Jesus Christy Like
Speaker 1: that's the that's like the rate at which the shit
Speaker 1: is ramping up.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're in a time more than ever where
Speaker 2: we need to be able to like demonstrate like that
Speaker 2: we stand with these communities. But again, you have enough
Speaker 2: people who want to go live on Instagram and tear
Speaker 2: down your fucking store displays in a target and then yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's causing a real back and forth that it's
Speaker 2: unfortunately just yeah, leading to more discord and violence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I like it really is not the
Speaker 1: majority of people. Like this is a extremist group that
Speaker 1: is taking control of like politics, and it's like carefully
Speaker 1: coordinated and they're using insurgency tactics to like and dark
Speaker 1: money and the fact that they have a lot of
Speaker 1: money behind them to do these things. But I mean, like,
Speaker 1: there there's this recent report that like eleven people are
Speaker 1: primarily responsible for the majority of book ban requests, like
Speaker 1: the right, like that we're seeing that happen in so
Speaker 1: many places across the country and it's just like a
Speaker 1: handful of extremist people. Again, it reminds me of like
Speaker 1: the Westboro Baptist Church, where for a decade they were
Speaker 1: like at all these events and you were like, man,
Speaker 1: people in America are so dumb, and then that you
Speaker 1: find out it's like a single family that is doing
Speaker 1: this shit, and like, I just think there is sometimes
Speaker 1: a level of like hopelessness that might take hold because
Speaker 1: the way the media covers it is that it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's half the country and the there are reasonable people
Speaker 1: in the other half, and it's like not, it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to actually be the case.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I've seen it a lot with like you know,
Speaker 2: like in states like Montana other places that have had
Speaker 2: like drag bands where people come out and they counter
Speaker 2: protest the fucking ignorant people who want to go and
Speaker 2: be hateful and they're fucking outnumbered every fucking time. I've
Speaker 2: not seen one time where there are more like hateful
Speaker 2: bigots you know, out there in mass than a group
Speaker 2: of people who are there for acceptance or equality and
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, man, there's just more people here. And
Speaker 2: yet I think it is it is a little. It
Speaker 2: is dangerous to like kind of keep focusing on a
Speaker 2: way because it does give this impression. But just like
Speaker 2: we talked about with like Moms for Liberty, there were
Speaker 2: enough parents who saw Moms for Liberty groups pop up
Speaker 2: in the areas and they were just like talking to
Speaker 2: other parts like this is bullshit, right, and they're like yeah,
Speaker 2: and like do you even know these people? Are like no,
Speaker 2: I never fucking heard of these people.
Speaker 1: They don't even have kids in our school district.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're well funded, and they're yeah, exactly, really well organized.
Speaker 4: Like when HB seventy one went to the governor, like
Speaker 4: when it was the anti trans bill went to the
Speaker 4: governor's desk here, you know, everybody, all of us were
Speaker 4: like call, call, call the governor email And in the
Speaker 4: end he got thousands and thousands of calls and emails
Speaker 4: in support of trans people and against this horrible bill.
Speaker 4: But the group funding it, the Idaho Family Policy Center,
Speaker 4: which is funded by outside money, people not even from Idaho.
Speaker 4: They robocalled, They set up robo calls to the governor,
Speaker 4: and they were able to make it look like they
Speaker 4: had more more calls like on paper, But then it
Speaker 4: turned out that they had spent like five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: to get these these calls. They were just robo calls.
Speaker 4: They were fucking fake. So like, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 4: easy to think, oh, oh, we're outnumbered by these bigots.
Speaker 4: But even here in e which is probably one of
Speaker 4: the hardest places to be trans like Florida and Idaho
Speaker 4: maybe are the hardest places, but even here, I really
Speaker 4: think that the average person does not give a shit.
Speaker 4: And it's really these outside actors who are the same
Speaker 4: people who are burning masks, are the same, like you know,
Speaker 4: they just they were able to take this group of people,
Speaker 4: get them very fired up, these QAnon people, get them
Speaker 4: fired up about masks, get them fired up about tyranny,
Speaker 4: and then now they can just laser beam them to
Speaker 4: anything they want essentially, And it's it's not that many people,
Speaker 4: like you said, it's like eleven people with a lot
Speaker 4: of time on their hands.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, And I like the I think this
Speaker 1: is distinct from Trump's supporters. I think Trump does have
Speaker 1: a lot of supporters who show up at the ballotbot
Speaker 1: like unfortunately, like that doesn't seem to carry over it
Speaker 1: like the stuff that focuses on like trans people and
Speaker 1: you know, gender affirming care and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of the school book bands, Like I think think most people,
Speaker 1: even if even if they're Trump supporters, are like, I
Speaker 1: don't want my children to like not be able to
Speaker 1: read books. But like the Trump the Trump supporter and
Speaker 1: the q Andon thing is like it maybe not q Andon,
Speaker 1: but the Trump supporter base is always like surprises me
Speaker 1: in the other direction, like how big it actually turns
Speaker 1: out to be. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a white grievance politics,
Speaker 2: and then they're totally off the walls like we basically
Speaker 2: want Nuremberg laws, yes, you know, for gay people. And
Speaker 2: that's I think, you know, that's like the one historical
Speaker 2: parallel that we have to be able to be Like
Speaker 2: they're like, we're.
Speaker 1: Seeing this momentum building against a group that is on
Speaker 1: the margins of our society, and this is I don't
Speaker 1: know my history, my history lessons. I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 1: what we got an election coming up, and I've read
Speaker 1: all these stories about how Trump's next by to the
Speaker 1: Apple is like going to be if he gets into office,
Speaker 1: all about radically expanding the powers of the president's office. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it all. I don't know, seems seems really bad
Speaker 1: just as a historical pattern, which is why like, yes,
Speaker 1: let's get you a Winnie.
Speaker 4: The Pooh book and.
Speaker 1: Fight. Yeah yeah, I think that would be really nice
Speaker 1: and soothing. Yeah, maybe that's what I need. That's what
Speaker 1: it takes, all right. Well, Emma, it's been such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, this has been so fun.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff?
Speaker 4: Well, like you said, I have five albums and you
Speaker 4: can listen to them anywhere you listen to albums. I
Speaker 4: also have two specials on YouTube you can watch. They're
Speaker 4: both very funny. Yes please, and myself and I post
Speaker 4: pictures of clouds on Instagram, but I don't really do
Speaker 4: a ton of social media. I'm on Twitter, but I
Speaker 4: don't do a ton with it. Yeah, those are the
Speaker 4: places you can find me. And you have a podcast, Oh,
Speaker 4: I am the host of Citycast Boys, so yeah, you
Speaker 4: can listen to me there if you're interested in boise.
Speaker 4: And then I have a podcast called The Book of
Speaker 4: Holy Fuck, which I don't update very often, but it's
Speaker 4: a horror storytelling podcast. But the episodes take me a
Speaker 4: very very long time because they're brutal, they're very hard
Speaker 4: to do so but they're great. I have another one
Speaker 4: coming out here pretty soon, but yeah, they take me.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm going to do these once
Speaker 4: a month, once a year. It's a once a year podcast,
Speaker 4: so people really look forward to it.
Speaker 1: And is there a work a media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: Yes, I just finished and I think I'm going to
Speaker 4: play through again Disco Elysium. I don't know if you've
Speaker 4: played through it. It's like this incredible RPG storytelling video
Speaker 4: game and it's Estonian and it is so beautiful and
Speaker 4: so bizarre, and it was made by these guys who
Speaker 4: had like a tabletop role playing game that they created
Speaker 4: their own universe, and then from this gigantic universe that
Speaker 4: they created together, they created this video game and I
Speaker 4: for one play through, I need it. I immediately was like,
Speaker 4: I have to play through this again because every decision
Speaker 4: that you make drastically alters what happens and it and
Speaker 4: it is just like it's wild. It's so big and
Speaker 4: it's so brilliant, so beautiful, and it's all kind of
Speaker 4: steeped around the Death of Communism and and and lots
Speaker 4: of things. It's it's incredible. You have to if you
Speaker 4: haven't played it before, you have to play it. It's
Speaker 4: so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wild, Yeah, it got it on Switch Poppy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a lot, it's so elysium. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's Uh. My husband has been trying to get me
Speaker 4: to play it for years because he knows I love
Speaker 4: an RPG. But I started it and it's I was like,
Speaker 4: this seems sad. But then because it's post to sort
Speaker 4: of post apocalypsey and it's got like a supernatural element,
Speaker 4: it's incredible and you're solving a mystery, and I encourage you.
Speaker 4: I played it very straight the first time around. I
Speaker 4: have a tendency to do that. Play it as weird
Speaker 4: as you want. That's my advice. If you play it,
Speaker 4: don't be afraid to get very weird with it. I
Speaker 4: played it very I was like worried about losing. You
Speaker 4: can't lose the game, so it's I mean, you can die,
Speaker 4: and I did a bunch of times. I got killed
Speaker 4: by a fan about seven hundred times.
Speaker 1: So is it pretty fast paced or is it kind
Speaker 1: of like turn based RPG?
Speaker 4: It's so like it's tech space, so you'll you'll go
Speaker 4: and talk to somebody and then you have these different
Speaker 4: options and then from there different very weird things will
Speaker 4: happen or and then they'll be like you you are
Speaker 4: totally just sort of like choosing exactly where you want
Speaker 4: to go and how you sort of direct the story yourself.
Speaker 4: And so when I played through, my husband came in
Speaker 4: and was like, oh, did you did you meet so
Speaker 4: and so? And I was like no, I never even
Speaker 4: got to play an entire part of the game because
Speaker 4: I had not said the right thing to one person,
Speaker 4: So I missed like a third of the game, which
Speaker 4: is incredible because I can't believe how big it is.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's I don't I would not say it's
Speaker 4: fast paced. There's you can read it or listen to it.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of dialogue to it, but it's all
Speaker 4: really beautifully written, and the story is really really interesting
Speaker 4: and the world like, the deeper you get into it,
Speaker 4: you just can't believe the world building. It's just incredible.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and if you if you like the game,
Speaker 4: research the history of what happened to the people who
Speaker 4: made it, because they got massively fucked over in a
Speaker 4: way that they predict in the game, like that capitalism
Speaker 4: will fuck like fuck over people in the game. If
Speaker 4: the people who made the game get it's actually really
Speaker 4: fascinating what ended up happening to them. I suggest you
Speaker 4: check it out. They get massively fucked over almost in
Speaker 4: the exact same way. So wow, sort of prophetic, very sadly,
Speaker 4: but an incredible game, So check it out.
Speaker 1: I don't play video games, but I love having video
Speaker 1: games described to me for some reason, and that that
Speaker 1: was a very enjoyable experience.
Speaker 4: The thing I could describe this one to you for
Speaker 4: three hours.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just like that, like we might help
Speaker 1: describe it, just like having very little combat because that
Speaker 1: is something that is so like central to so many
Speaker 1: video games, like where's the fucking action?
Speaker 2: And I like that this one is really based on
Speaker 2: like your decision making and how you're navigating and.
Speaker 4: And your emotional state, like you It's very interesting because
Speaker 4: so much is built around like if you have empathy, yeah,
Speaker 4: if you're brave, if you're cruel, like it's it's very
Speaker 4: it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a nice respite from my day to
Speaker 1: day life, which is all based around my combat ability miles.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Is there a work of
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, other app based services at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 2: Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast Miles and
Speaker 2: Jack Got Mad Masses. And if you like ninety day
Speaker 2: Fiance in the trash universe around that, check out my
Speaker 2: other show with Sophia Alexandra called four twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sophia is the best. She really likes Idaho too.
Speaker 4: Well, She's come up here quite a bit. We're friends,
Speaker 4: she's visited, she comes up here, she likes Idaho.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it all makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Sophia, you're hearing this. I know you don't literally
Speaker 1: listen to that, guys, but I know you spiritually you are.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's see some work of media. Man at
Speaker 1: Blockbuster on Twitter just always like with the saltiest Netflix clapbacks,
Speaker 1: although I'm always like, these are kind of weird because
Speaker 1: y'all could have bought Netflix and them out of the room,
Speaker 1: so it's a little interesting. But anyway, at Netflix tweeted
Speaker 1: a friendly reminder that when you used to run videos
Speaker 1: from us, we didn't care who you shared it with
Speaker 1: as long as you returned it on time, and then
Speaker 1: they put at Netflix. Okay, Eddy as fuck. Actually I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's true because of one of the
Speaker 1: tweets that I've been enjoying, ok miles, where Ron Iver
Speaker 1: tweeted kids in the nineties, I'm just gonna pop in
Speaker 1: this one hundred and one Dalmatians vhs FBI. If you
Speaker 1: do copyright infringement, we are going to hunt you. Kids
Speaker 1: in the nineties. What's copyright infringement? FBI, we will bury
Speaker 1: you in God's earth. So I seem to remember a
Speaker 1: lot of warnings at the beginning of that that was
Speaker 1: like you can't publicly show this to other people. You
Speaker 1: were fuck you over. I wasn't shook by it. I
Speaker 1: was always I did like read it sometimes and be like,
Speaker 1: what is this? What are they warning about?
Speaker 2: And I remember, yeah, my I remember as a kid,
Speaker 2: because every video you watched had that like very that
Speaker 2: same visual that came up. I remember asking my parents
Speaker 2: are like, it's nothing, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: They were like, you see you see what happens you
Speaker 4: Are you pirating? Are you pirating?
Speaker 1: And I was like, are you a pirate? Hired? Are
Speaker 1: you are. Does that mean anything to you?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 1: Why are you tossing a knife between your hands? Jigo
Speaker 1: Goes tweeted, I can't believe the universe gave Trump another
Speaker 1: Jeb And I think that's what we're looking at. I
Speaker 1: really think that's a good summation of what we're seeing
Speaker 1: from just from yeah, Rob as Trump has started calling
Speaker 1: him Rob. He started calling him Rob just like you
Speaker 1: just to him.
Speaker 4: No, I hate how good it insults.
Speaker 1: He's so good.
Speaker 4: He's so good at it, and like, really, I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's okay to call someone by the Trump's nickname for them,
Speaker 4: like it's so funny.
Speaker 1: But it's when it's Robbed DeSantis. I think so. I
Speaker 1: think we're just But yeah, I think that is the
Speaker 1: main thing. That's why he has the big following and
Speaker 1: these other assholes don't. Oh, it's all brand because it's
Speaker 1: branding because he is fun to watch. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: as he as he brings fourth to fourth Reich. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that
Speaker 1: you think people might enjoy? I think there is.
Speaker 2: And if you're an elder millennial like me who likes rat,
Speaker 2: this kind of fits.
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting space. This is a remix by
Speaker 1: Nimino and I am I n oh and you can.
Speaker 2: Only find this on SoundCloud. And uh, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a mashup of Kendrick Lamar and radio Head. Uh, and
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. I gotta say. It's using the instrumental
Speaker 2: from Everything in its Right Place with what is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? United in Grief? What's going to take off?
Speaker 1: The food? Food, take off, the take off everything? That
Speaker 1: track from Mister Mole might be? Yeah, is that the
Speaker 1: one that's the first track?
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's Kendrick, It's it's Radiohead, it's an it's a.
Speaker 1: It works surprising, is that one? Oh? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: it might be A ninety five. Yeah, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's ny But yeah, it's called the it's called take
Speaker 1: off everything. There you go, all right, well, we will
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