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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. It is our number two here of

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Speaker 2: the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network, of course on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. As we continue to bob and weave

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Speaker 2: on this crazy week talking a little art ray.

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Speaker 3: Our life just become though wild. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: a day and a half after the Steelers were eliminated

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Speaker 3: in ugly fashion, and we don't even bring up the game.

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 2: We you know, we spent two segments in total, probably

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Speaker 2: a half an hour in total. That's a great point

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Speaker 2: by you. We spent probably a half an hour total

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Speaker 2: talking about a Steeler's home playoff loss. Yeah right, right right,

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Speaker 2: that was a debacle in the fourth quarter. That was

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Speaker 2: like what the sixth straight straight? But no, but now

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Speaker 2: it seems so insignificant.

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Speaker 3: Right right, yesterday's news Matt.

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Speaker 2: You know this, I don't do much, but like I

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Speaker 2: do a little outline for the show, Like it's like

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Speaker 2: a couple of words of what we should talk about

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Speaker 2: on each segment. For our next segment, I literally have

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Speaker 2: a dance ski written I mean you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not it's just a very of like topics that

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure we hit on holiday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then when I was putting this together, when I

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Speaker 2: first got it, you know, I usually spend ten fifteen

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Speaker 2: minutes putting together the kind of rundown the out the

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Speaker 2: set list, if you will, there of today's show, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we spent maybe thirty minutes talking about the

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Speaker 2: game Monday night, and we spent maybe three minutes talking

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Speaker 2: about the other wild card games, right right, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, should I try and pigeonhole that in?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, who cares? Man, Like, I got

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Speaker 2: all this come up again. And obviously on Friday show

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Speaker 2: we'll spend a segment or two talking all the division

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Speaker 2: round games and get back into it there.

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Speaker 3: But and folks, you're right the tweet dust and ask

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Speaker 3: questions about it or what we're not ignoring it. There's

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Speaker 3: too much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: There is, there's there's there's way too much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And obviously that all centers around the Pittsburgh Steelers, for

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Speaker 2: the first time in nineteen years, having a vacancy at

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Speaker 2: the head coaching position and Matt we know now too

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers have of a third at least third

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Speaker 2: interview request that the Steelers have put in and now

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Speaker 2: it is with Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's somebody I know more about because he's a player,

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Speaker 3: suber smart. He was a defensive tackle at Notre Dame,

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Speaker 3: reasonably high draft pick. Was considered a very versatile player.

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Speaker 3: He could play tackle, he could play end, he can

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Speaker 3: move up and down the line at a really good

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Speaker 3: knowledge of the position. But you know, people don't care

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Speaker 3: if he's what kind of player he was necessarily, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was a decent athlete, but he.

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Speaker 5: Was more second round pick fifty second a good career.

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Speaker 3: So something we talked about a lot at the time.

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Speaker 3: You know, the rival Ravens when they lost McDonald as

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Speaker 3: They also lost two or three of their top assistants.

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Speaker 3: Well Weaver was one of them. You know, they got

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Speaker 3: the first half of the season for the Ravens was

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Speaker 5: Too, put him back in center field role.

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Speaker 3: Because they didn't have guys like Weaver to pick up

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Speaker 3: But he's considered a very smart, up and coming type guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got I mean for being only forty five

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Speaker 3: And that went from player to coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, started his coaching career in the college ranks with

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Speaker 5: So knows the division. Well.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's been with two different two different AFC

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Speaker 2: You know, Brown's a little over a decade ago.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been linked to the Ravens head job too.

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Speaker 3: He interviewed or scheduled too.

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Speaker 5: He's and I you know what, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I remember the build up to that Monday night football

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Speaker 2: of like, this is a guy to watch in league circle.

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Speaker 2: Ye his name a lot, You'll be hearing his name,

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Speaker 2: and he's and he's gonna have some opportunities to you know,

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Speaker 2: if not this year. And it sounds like that certainly

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, I mentioned he got a lot, a

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Speaker 3: frankly from a coordinator off a bad team is kind

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Speaker 3: obviously he's doing something well personality intelligence wise, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeed, And so we know as of now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so obviously Weaver is not still in the playoffs. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Rams are. That doesn't mean they won't do zooms

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and hey, I interviewing some coaches from that

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Speaker 2: RAM staff. I think you and I are both behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nice check mark for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm all the way, I'm all the way

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Speaker 2: willing to entertain that absolutely. Other than that, I think

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Speaker 3: One of them wanted to throw out though, is they

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Speaker 3: The Rams just have kind of reinvented their own blueprints.

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Speaker 3: So many coaches just do what the coaches have always done.

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Speaker 3: Like it blew me away. They were the first team

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, there's like years in a row.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like we can do everything online. I mean

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Speaker 3: they don't need to be there. They can be home

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Speaker 2: You know, their GM would fly into Indianapolis do his

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Speaker 2: That's a league rule one two has to go to

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Speaker 3: To check the box.

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Speaker 2: Right literally, well we have to do this obligation so

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Speaker 2: we don't get a big fine from the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like buy them out.

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Speaker 3: Don't even turn the private jet off. I'll be back

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Speaker 3: and I'll be back in an hour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, you tell your uber driver just

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Speaker 5: I want to knock this.

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Speaker 3: Out real quick and then take me right back where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go talk to a bunch of media

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Speaker 3: And they were like the first team that like we're

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Speaker 2: Traded their first round draft picks for all those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was too. They went like nine

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Speaker 2: If you're change, that's that's the theme of the off season, right,

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Speaker 2: That's the keyword is change. I think going with somebody

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Speaker 2: that's exciting to me.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's just bring somebody in that sees it differently.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they're right and you're wrong or whatever, but

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think there's a lot to be

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Speaker 5: And as we're gonna, we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: It really is like the just the nerd door like

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have all these names flying around, interviews flying around.

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Speaker 3: Second it's finalized, it gets real fun, like well, what

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean exactly right. You know

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Speaker 2: we are going to have some fun with this. Just

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Speaker 2: of course is Chris Adanski. We'll hear his thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the resignation of Mike Tomlin, what Ny the Second had

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Speaker 2: all of that and more with a Danski when we

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Speaker 2: return on the other side here in our number two

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Speaker 2: West Shouler Matt Williamson, it is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio back on the drive here as we continue to

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Speaker 2: try and make sense of a crazy week. As Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin no longer after nineteen years the head coach of

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Speaker 2: your Pittsburgh Steelers for nearly the first time in two decades,

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Speaker 2: these Steelers have a vacancy and a head coaching search

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Speaker 2: that is now on going. Joining us now to discuss

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Speaker 2: all of this is, of course, our buddy from the trip,

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Speaker 2: Chris Adamski covers the Steelers there has for over a decade,

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Speaker 2: and of course is the co host of the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Blitz with Tom Opferman Buzz. Thank you for taking the

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Speaker 2: time on a busy day, and let's kind of backtrack

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Speaker 2: to yesterday. What was your initial reaction when the Mike

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Speaker 2: was What was that initial reaction like when the Mike

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Speaker 4: Definitely surprised, I mean shocked probably goes too far because

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Speaker 4: you know, you certainly there was more you know, smoke

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Speaker 3: It's I found that so hilarious, Like, well, they're definitely

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Speaker 4: Well, the one part of that, the obvious part that

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Speaker 5: And everything like that, transport everything else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's there's no I mean, you again, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want to speculate on who the

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Speaker 4: to be somewhat in play here as a possibility that

435
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Speaker 4: that that that Lafleur would be here, and if that's

436
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 4: the case, then that might fit in that sense. But

437
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 4: you just, you know, philosophically, there's a lot of reasons

438
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,479
Speaker 4: for a new head coach, you know, you know, as

439
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 4: an organization, and they were pretty upfront about even before

440
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 4: this happened that they were looking at quarterbacks this year.

441
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 4: Didn't mean necessarily they're taking a quarterback in the first

442
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: round or or have strong intentions to, especially as another

443
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: one that dropped off the board here the last twenty minutes,

444
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: Dante Moore coming back to school. So this this all

445
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 4: of a sudden, this QB draft class, it seems about

446
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 4: the day gets worse and worse or it's you know less,

447
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 4: you know, we were told for a couple of years

448
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: ago the twenty twenty six QB draft class, and for

449
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 4: one reason or another it's it's turned into I mean,

450
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get too far and I don't know how

451
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 4: it all play out. Sometimes these things changed. Still, it

452
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 4: turns me get into the evaluation of the combine. It

453
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 4: seems like it's not going to be a real strong

454
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 4: class all of a sudden. But regardless of that, in

455
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 4: an ideal world, if it's possible, you know, putting a

456
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 4: new young head coach and a new young quarterback together

457
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 4: and pairing them together sounds appeal, has appeal to it, right,

458
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: if that works, it doesn't mean you force, it doesn't

459
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: mean you make yourself do that. But at an ideal world,

460
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 4: I think that would be something that would be good

461
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: to grow with as an organization. So between that and

462
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 4: between Rogers being really open. You know from the time

463
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 4: he signed here that Mike Tomlin was a big reason

464
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: why he wanted to be here. And you know, maybe

465
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Speaker 4: he doesn't want to start over too with somebody. I mean,

466
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: there's a good chance he'll be older than the head

467
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 4: coach if the Steelers is taking to do head coach,

468
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: which you know doesn't mean anything per se, but it

469
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: also might be a little awkward. You know, if you're

470
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Speaker 4: a new coach, you have a guy who's and hey,

471
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Speaker 4: I think Rogers was great here this year for what

472
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: he was, but he's a strong personality. If you're a

473
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 4: new coach trying to put in a culture, I don't

474
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: know if you want the Hall of Fame twenty two

475
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 4: year old veteran twenty two year veteran quarterback kind of

476
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 4: you know, being a bigger voice than you if that

477
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 4: makes any sense.

478
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Speaker 3: So this is kind of dawned on me, is when

479
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: you mentioned the front office is going to remain in place,

480
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: Omar is going to be back, which I'm happy about.

481
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: Usually this time of year, one of the first things

482
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 3: I start talking about are, well, you know Tomlin's obviously

483
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: been in place for this process that you start talking

484
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 3: to some of your free agents to be before they

485
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 3: hit the market, you know, like, can you lock up

486
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: Pierre or somebody like that. Do you think you have

487
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: to put that on hold until you know the coach

488
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: or do you just offer Peer a contract? Anyways, I

489
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: just pulled him out of the air because I think

490
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't be a hard one to do, you know,

491
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: and he.

492
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Speaker 4: Played well yeah, I mean I think you could still

493
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: have the evaluations of those players going on. And are

494
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: talked about this too, and it makes sense a head

495
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Speaker 4: coach and you know, no matter what you think of

496
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Speaker 4: how much quote unquote power Tomlin had or in personnel

497
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Speaker 4: decisions and then where you know who at the final

498
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 4: all that stuff that we got into every year in

499
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Speaker 4: the draft and every you know, you want your head

500
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: coach obviously philosophically, whatever he's gonna have an offensive idea

501
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: and or a defensive idea, and there might be body types,

502
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 4: there might be certain types of m positioned or exactly

503
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 4: exactly so you want to do that. But I still

504
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: think that even if this does go like the first

505
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Speaker 4: week of February, which stay, you still got five weeks

506
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: then before free agency, right, I think that's still plenty

507
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: of time to you know, whether negotiate or talk to it,

508
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: you know, and you can keep doing your evows. And

509
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 4: I'm sure the players that they like that are free agents,

510
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: they are, you know, keeping keeping in touch with the

511
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure the agent's keep in touch with them and

512
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 4: things like that too in terms of what they do.

513
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 4: And I have noticed too a lot of times even

514
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: the guys they want to bring back and you know,

515
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 4: they they still whether it's I mean, it's like, well,

516
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: sometimes the Steelers will recent one of their guys that

517
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 4: are going announced, you know that that afternoon free agency starts. Right,

518
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: It's like, did they say, you know what, just give

519
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 4: me that I'm going to go out here? They say, hey,

520
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 4: go test your market. If not, you're we'll get this

521
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: waiting for you. But it's once you get to five o'clock,

522
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: you know, the tampering day, you don't come back to us,

523
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to find ourselves at left guard, man,

524
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: So you're gonna make it a sis, you know, something

525
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: like that. That's probably how it plays out, because you

526
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: it's it's seems like I didn't order. I'm just like,

527
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: why do they wait till now? They could have signed

528
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: them two months ago, But there must be something along

529
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: those lines that, you know, both sides kind of want

530
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: to do it that way. So if that's kind of

531
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: the timeline that it seems like it's usual, like it's

532
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: I had to go back and see if it was. Anecdotally,

533
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: it's up top of my head. Though. I don't feel

534
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 4: like the Steelers do resignings. They announce them in January

535
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: or February. It's usually always, you know, maybe a week

536
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: or two leading in the free agency, but usually not

537
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: till till March there.

538
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Speaker 3: And I can't imagine the new head coach is going

539
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: to be like, oh no, I'm not taking the job.

540
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: You guys resigned James Pierre.

541
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Speaker 4: Y Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, right yeah. I don't think now,

542
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: you know, maybe quarterbacks that's a big descision. Yeah yeah,

543
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. And as we know with that that doesn't

544
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: seem like something that will if that does happen, well,

545
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: from past experience, you could expect the stick the over

546
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: on the on the decision day, not the unready guess.

547
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: Right, Chris and Damski kind enough to lend us some

548
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: time here in the middle of a busy week. Uh,

549
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: real quick before you go buzz. And I will preface

550
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: this by saying, typically I hate it when people ask

551
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: me these type of put me on the spot and

552
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: I'll think of a better answer five minutes from now

553
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: type questions. But that's why I host the show instead

554
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: of being a guest on it.

555
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: Okay, do you have remember this next week when you're

556
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: on our show?

557
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 5: You can pay me back, certainly.

558
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh darn it. Vengeance is a dish best served on

559
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: the Blitz next week. Uh. Favorite, like favorite Tomlin moment

560
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: or tomlinism or something that'll that'll stick with you for

561
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. In the last twenty four hours or so,

562
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: as I've been racking my brain at this, a lot

563
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: of the you know you have red paint, you paint

564
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: the bar in red? Sure, rather say woe than sick them.

565
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: You know, I've spent a lot of fun Podia.

566
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of fun ones, and for me,

567
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: I just keep laughing and chuckling. About twenty nineteen when

568
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph got knocked out of the game by that

569
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: nasty head against the Ravens and Earl Thomas, and remember

570
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: like his face mask was off.

571
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, there's a crazy look.

572
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: And they couldn't get a cart out to the field

573
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: to cart him off, so he had to like walk

574
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: and he was like Juju was like holding him up

575
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: and he's wobbling and he doesn't have the face mask on.

576
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: It was just a really bizarre scenario.

577
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: And he's asked about it in the post game and

578
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: he says, I don't drive carts and things of that nature.

579
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: Ask somebody who's in charge of For the last twenty

580
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: four hours, Mike Tomlin's voice of I don't drive carts

581
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: and things of that nature has been running through in

582
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: my mind.

583
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: Do you have Is there a moment.

584
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: Like that that stands out to you, Chris, that you'll

585
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: laugh and remember fondly in the years to come about

586
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin.

587
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 4: I will say this is out of effection. I don't

588
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: think it's anything. Maybe you'll think of odd or something

589
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: but I have a folder in my phone from press

590
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: conferences of like Promlinism's or different little quotes you will

591
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: say that that I can deploy during like text groups

592
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: or something like that. And somebody asked me, I have

593
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: no idea what you just ask or something, you know,

594
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: something like that or whatever. I do like the just

595
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: because it's a bibing in the alcohol, I guess. But

596
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: you know that the uh you could with the flying

597
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: line between squashing grapes and drinking wine. That's and I'm

598
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 4: interested in drinking a little bit of wine. That's what

599
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: he said at one point. That'd be my favorite tombl

600
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: the reism for sure. And uh. In terms of on

601
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: the field type stuff, I don't you know, man, I

602
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: wish I had a better You're right, I didn't put

603
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: on here. There is some there's it's been it's been

604
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: that long too, man, It's like well before I was

605
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: even on the beat, you know, I'm just you know

606
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: about that long got a colleges as you know, watching

607
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: Palm and you know all the things he's done. But yeah,

608
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: the one thing you can say is, man, you can

609
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: see why in a interview setting he walked into that room.

610
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 4: I mean the orator he is. Yeah, and just the

611
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 4: you know, the voice he has in the uh, just

612
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: the term the things he comes up with, and the

613
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: and the analogies and you know, and then some of

614
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: them are funny, someone are cute, some of them are

615
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: some of them are really good, like wow, that's actually

616
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense, right, you know, uh, and

617
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 4: you know, just you know, even we're talking to Dino

618
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: Tollem and his son about it, one of you. That's

619
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: the way he talks to me too. Don't worry things

620
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: like that.

621
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: Not an actor, that's.

622
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: Just who he is. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's, uh,

623
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: that'll definitely be missed because whoever, whoever, the standard is

624
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: the standard when it comes to the Tom are having

625
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: your your uh whatever you want to you can't call

626
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: him toll them as anywhere coaches during news conferences every Tuesday.

627
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: So we'll definitely everybody will miss that aspect of it,

628
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure going forward.

629
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Chris Damski, thank you for taking the time, partner. We'll

630
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: be looking forward to to listening to you and Tom

631
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: react to this all week as well on the Blitz.

632
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

633
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys around there.

634
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: He is there, he goes the buzzsaw.

635
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: Chris Adamski remind me of a quick story that there's

636
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with that. But when my time it pit,

637
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: our offensive line coach was Tom Freeman, and he's a

638
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: great guy. I learned so much football from him. He

639
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: was super into recruiting. But he had all these freemanisms

640
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: and the old Lineman put together this book of them,

641
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: which was pretty awesome and hilarious. You know, like, man,

642
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: that dude looks like a bag of bag bag full

643
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: of doorknobs. You know, like sometimes like centers look like

644
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: a bag full of door knobs, especially when you can't

645
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: recruit the top guys. You know, things like that. They

646
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: this this, this packet they put together the whole line

647
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: of Freemanism, which was really funny.

648
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: All right, one more for you now that you're saying

649
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: offensive lineman and jogging my memory. In the pre COVID days,

650
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Speaker 2: like three or four days a week, Tounch and Wolf

651
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: used to do their show down at the facility right right,

652
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: because they would do the show and then go right

653
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Speaker 2: to practice.

654
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Speaker 3: And they're won of the offices. I remember they only

655
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Speaker 3: I had to do it there once for some reason.

656
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: And so I was there on site engineer, producer. That

657
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: was one of my first gigs here when I when

658
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: I started, So three or four days a week we'd

659
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: be down doing it was actually rare that we were

660
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: back here, more rare that we were back at the

661
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: studios doing.

662
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: Shows down there more than four days a week.

663
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Speaker 2: I think press conference days were the only days that

664
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: we were here and not down there, if that makes sense.

665
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Every other day, you know, so every day except for Tuesday,

666
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: we were down at the facility because those guys wanted

667
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: to watch practice and because they wanted the free lunch

668
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: at the Steelers Cafet. Let's be honest, but man, in

669
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: those two years eighteen and nineteen before COVID that I

670
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: did that with Tounching Wolf. At least once a month

671
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: they would go to break and Mike Tom would pop

672
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: the door would open into like the conference room that

673
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: they were in, and Tom would poke his head and

674
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: be like, can you guys keep it down please? Because

675
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: they get the you know, they get the time stories,

676
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: yeah talking, you know about the telling chuck and oh

677
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, poke his head and be like, hey, I'm

678
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: trying to watch film over here. Can you guys keep

679
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Speaker 2: it down?

680
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, football, I mentioned earlier. Football offices are quiet.

681
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: And Wolf's telling stories and arguing and laughing and puming.

682
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Speaker 3: A bunch of ex jocks are loud. I mean no,

683
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: on Tuesday this time, football offices are quiet.

684
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Quiet. They're in there breaking down film right, game planning

685
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And they hear Wolf laughing about

686
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 2: a jelly glaze ownut from one hundred yards down the hall, Like,

687
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: can you keep it down in there?

688
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: You guys are way too loud.

689
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: That's great, Just little things like that that we'll always

690
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: laugh about. Matt. One more segment to go here. Throughout

691
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: these last couple segments and Today's show and everything, even

692
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: more names now being reported that the Steelers have reached

693
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: out to. So you know what, maybe I was gonna

694
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: try and do some pros and cons of the Steelers

695
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: job here in the last segment. Let's say that for tomorrow,

696
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: because I feel like we can make a whole hour

697
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: out of that.

698
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: I've changed in the.

699
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Less they somehow get that first overall pick I.

700
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: Bring Rogers comes back or something, But whatever, So let's

701
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: save that.

702
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: We'll do a bigger picture show and spend more time

703
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: on that.

704
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Speaker 5: Tomorrow.

705
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: Let's run through some more of these names that we

706
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: now know that the Steelers have requested for their head

707
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: coaching interviews. As we cross some t's and dot some

708
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Speaker 2: eyes before our final segment on the other side, we'll

709
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Speaker 2: do that when we return. Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson. It

710
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

711
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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

713
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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

714
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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this busy Wednesday,

715
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: as we tell you what again, I said this at

716
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: the beginning of the show. I'm like, I feel like

717
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm in the circus, trying to juggle everything and make

718
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: sure we don't miss anything, and we're keeping up to

719
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Speaker 2: date on all this moving and shaking around the future

720
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Speaker 2: of the Steelers head coaching position. Before we get to

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Speaker 2: a couple other names that are being reported that the

722
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Speaker 2: Steelers have put requests in. I got some Dante Moore,

723
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Dylan Rayola clarity for you.

724
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: Oh really?

725
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So Dylan Riola picked up a leg injury at

726
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: the end of last year. Okay, I don't think it's

727
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: crazy significant, but it sounds like he's on board with this,

728
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna sit behind Dante More for a year, let

729
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: that leg fully heal and recover, and then take over

730
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 2: the reins starting in twenty two.

731
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Speaker 3: And it sounds that much eligibility left too, then I

732
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: guess I guess so, not that I'm super concerned about Roola's.

733
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Right, right, so, but he did break a bone in

734
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: his leg towards the end of the season, so he's

735
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: going to take time fully recover and be the starter

736
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess Moore's mind is made up, does it?

738
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Speaker 3: And I don't know or you mentioned this before. Oregon's

739
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: got a chance to win the whole thing next year.

740
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: They bring back just on paper right now, they probably

741
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: bring back the most talent of anybody.

742
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: There's still a.

743
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Million things that can change between now and then in

744
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: portal and recruiting, and but.

745
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: They're guaranteed to be a preseason top five.

746
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 2: Without a day, without a day. I mean, they made

747
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: it to the National semi got embarrassed by Indiana, but

748
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: they made it to the National semi final, right and

749
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: were I think the youngest roster you know, pretty significantly

750
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Speaker 2: with with you know, the teams that were in the playoff.

751
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Speaker 3: You know me, I look at the NFL ramifications and

752
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 3: it's not pretty.

753
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: It's not really, I mean, it's And then that's the

754
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: most surprising part, I think, because I think at worst

755
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: he would have been the second overall pick.

756
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: And like everyone says this every year and he gets old,

757
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: but his competition at the top of next year's draft

758
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: is gonna be way harsher than this year's totally, I mean,

759
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: there's no doubt about that.

760
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: The other side of that, though, that I'll give that,

761
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Speaker 2: I'll I'll give to him on this one is if

762
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he really likes life.

763
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Speaker 3: At Orgon's a good life.

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Speaker 2: He's well compensated at NIL these days, you know, at

765
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: Nike University there not so shabby. If if they're telling him,

766
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Speaker 2: here's this big chunk of change we're going to give

767
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: you to come back. You can live as a college

768
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Speaker 2: student for another year.

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Speaker 5: I get that too.

770
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Speaker 3: Oh, these guys always buds, Yeah, right.

771
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think there's something to be said

772
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: for that in this NIL era of Like, I think

773
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: sometimes kids just want to stay kids for another year

774
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: or two and make some money while they're doing it.

775
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that.

776
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Speaker 3: And there's also a chance, I don't know if it's

777
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: saying truth to it, but maybe the NFL said you're

778
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: not getting and to be a top five pick we made,

779
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: they might not like him quite as much.

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Speaker 5: You gotta work on this totally.

781
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: You know, his last game against Indiana, he did not

782
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: bathe himself in glory. Yeah, in fact, quite the opposite.

783
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: So there's always a lot of different angles to consider.

784
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: But we do know that you can take his name

785
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: out of the equation, uh, Dante Moore. So I think

786
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago you and I would have said

787
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson comes back, Dante Moore goes to the draft.

788
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Now they've now they've flip flopped, and I think that's

789
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: really kind of the only significant surprise in each direction

790
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: at this point.

791
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: But there'll be more.

792
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: My draft prep is so infantile right now here. But still,

793
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: I was just asked on Twitter, is this the weakest

794
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: top of the draft you can remember?

795
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 5: For quarterbacks? And and you just mean in general?

796
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: And the answer for both is it's even more.

797
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: So than last year because last year there wasn't the

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: Krazer Reshippers.

799
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Speaker 4: At the time.

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Speaker 3: I know the last couple of drafts have not been great,

801
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: and I like.

802
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: The middle classes in them.

803
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about this one, but I think, yeah, yeah, right,

804
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: right right, it's not the best year to be drafted

805
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: super high.

806
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe it all maybe it'd all work out in the.

807
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: Plenty time to dissect that.

808
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: There there certainly is, certainly is.

809
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Who's these other coaching requests?

810
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: Two more that we now know by reports that the

811
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Steelers have submitted a request to interview, both on the

812
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 2: defensive side of the football. One a name that we're

813
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: familiar with. One would be a new name, a new change.

814
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: The first it's a name that's been thrown around a lot,

815
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Speaker 2: and now it's official. Steelers have requested an interview with

816
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Speaker 2: Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Mintor.

817
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: So not shocked by that.

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00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: He's guys that.

819
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Speaker 3: I bet they were interviewed. It had been before we

820
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: walked in today. It had been Mentor and Shula.

821
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Speaker 2: Both youngish still like late thirties, early forties, right, rising,

822
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Speaker 2: great reputation, great reputation as a rising, ascending defensive coordinator.

823
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously heavy harbor ties. Of course, he's

824
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: been linked to the Ravens job as well, which I

825
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 3: totally would get it. We even said this Whennatilo's played

826
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: the Chargers this year. It was like, Man, I'm not

827
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: so sure why this Chargers defense is as good as

828
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: it is, because on paper they're not that impressive, and

829
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: he's gotten a lot out of them, and they do

830
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: some innovative.

831
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Speaker 2: Stuff they do because he was with that Ravens. He

832
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: was with the Ravens for a while from twenty seventeen

833
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty, and.

834
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Speaker 3: Very typical Harbaugh fashion, they pass their buddies.

835
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Speaker 2: Then he went to Michigan and became the defensive coordinator

836
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: for two years and won a national championship there with the.

837
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Speaker 5: Other Harbaugh just like McDonald did, and.

838
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Then followed him to Southern California. Yeah, these last two

839
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: years with the Chargers. So he's got extensive college and

840
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: NFL background. Notre Dames, Cincinnati, Indiana State, Georgia State, Baltimore Ravens, Vanderbilt, Michigan,

841
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: the LA Chargers defensive coordinator of that national champion twenty

842
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: twenty three Michigan Wolverinees team. I worry for our buddy

843
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: Mike Persuda if they end up heading hiring Jesse Mentor

844
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: will be able to sit in a press conference with

845
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: this former Wolverine and not get out of line.

846
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: So he's the one, and he's I think you're absolutely right.

847
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: I think most Steelers fans in the last twenty four

848
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: hours had heard about the two LA defensive coordinators. Chris

849
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Shula Jesse Mentor Shula I think is thirty nine, mentors

850
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: forty two, both in that young and ascending defensive coordinator conversation,

851
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: and we know that that's certainly an area that the

852
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: Steelers are going to be looking to pull from. The

853
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: other is a defensive coordinator well known. I don't know

854
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: if I would really call him as sending and young anymore,

855
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: but he's certainly not old. And that is formerly of

856
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: this parish, current Vikings defensive coordinator, oh Brian Flores or

857
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: part of me. I guess he's not because his contract expired.

858
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: He's a true free agent. He is interviewing with the

859
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders today or has already for their vacant or

860
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: for their defensive coordinator job, so he was kind of

861
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: interviewing around for some DC jobs. The Steelers have requested

862
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: to interview him for their head coaching vacancy.

863
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: Also doesn't shock me. I think most people know his story.

864
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been considered a phenomenal defensive mind. His

865
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: stint in Miami was bizarre slash rocky as a head coach,

866
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: so he does have head coaching experience. There are reports

867
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: and again I said this to open the show, I

868
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: don't know these guys' personalities, and you know that he

869
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: rubbed a lot of people wrong and he was pretty

870
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: abrasive there as a head guy, but then kind of

871
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: rehabilitated his image a little bit by coming here. And frankly,

872
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: I think the league blackballed them to some degree. I

873
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: mean there's a lot of that.

874
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: I certainly think that that's part of it.

875
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: It's not even a lawsuit out there or something. Yes,

876
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: it's not like I just made that up. So Steelers

877
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: bringing his linebacker coach and quickly becomes defensive coordinator for

878
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: the Vikings. And that's another team that I remember Vikings

879
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: week in Dublin saying I don't think there's that many

880
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: defensive players on the Vikes that would start for the Steelers,

881
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: and they probably have a better defense than Steelers. I mean,

882
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: because this guy does crazy stuff, really innovative, highly highly aggressive.

883
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: You're my immediate thought with him and true for the

884
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: other defense coordinators, but particularly him because I think we're

885
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: we know more about him. I would really hope he

886
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: brings a quarterback whisper with him, you.

887
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, that's any of these defensive of course,

888
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: of course, I my overarching thought. And again we'll start

889
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: We're going to really jump into the weeds, dig into

890
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: the weeds tomorrow with this stuff.

891
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

892
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: My overarching thought is I want a young, ascending offensive mind.

893
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: And I want to either this draft or next draft,

894
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: step up to the plate and take a swing on

895
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: your next franchise quarterback. And even if that coach ends

896
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: up not being a long term guy, if four years

897
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: from now, five years from now he's out, if he

898
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: develops you your next quarterback, fine, totally worth it.

899
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: Totally worth it, right like.

900
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 5: That, fine.

901
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: Identifying, procuring and developing your next franchise quarterback is my priority.

902
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: Number one.

903
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Is It relates to everything, everything.

904
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: Everything said that when they drafted pick it, I mean

905
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: everything else, lot right, It's all about developing the next quarterback.

906
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: You can't just Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers amidst trubiscuit

907
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: it forever.

908
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: No, no, no, you can't.

909
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: You can maybe do that one more year because the

910
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: options don't present themselves.

911
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can't force it, but you also you

912
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: also got to step up to the plate and take

913
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: a swing at some point.

914
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And with that in mind, it has.

915
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: To be the franchise's top priority, the next Ben.

916
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. You know, I don't care if

917
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: you're going to bring in Andy Reid, Dipton.

918
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: Sean McVay.

919
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: You need that that next quarterback is finding it is

920
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: the priority. But I so while my you know, my

921
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: my perfect scenario would be a Liam Cohen, a Ben Johnson,

922
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: and I know that that's so easy and convenient to say.

923
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: More than ago then after and.

924
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: What they did with the reputations of Caleb Williams and

925
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence in such a short amount of time. But

926
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: if they do go with one of these defensive minds,

927
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm willing to still be optimistic, excited all those things

928
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: as long as they you got to bring in a proper,

929
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: proven offensive coordinator.

930
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might not last year because if he does

931
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: his job, he's gonnaet hired by somebody else's two years.

932
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Great if he's here for two three years and he

933
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: helps you get your next franchise quarterback outstanding.

934
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

935
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: In fact, if you want to prick my finger Matt

936
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Williamson here on camera, I'll sign for that in blood.

937
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 5: Right right now.

938
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: And the other approach is what the Patriots did. It's

939
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: two proven dudes, Rabel and McDaniel, not just Rabel. I

940
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: mean everyone get Rabel's coach of the year. He didn't

941
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: his job. Well, he's like one of the best offensive coordinators,

942
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: a lifer offensive coordinator, doing great things with Drake may too.

943
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: You know that's like it's like if you were it

944
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: may take this.

945
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: Huge step from year one to two. Well, there's some reasons, yes, yeah,

946
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: exactly right.

947
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: It'd be like if you got the Ben Johnson of

948
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: the Liam Cohen and paired him with a Jim Schwartz.

949
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you know, right, right right,

950
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: like exactly right. Last thing for you on Flores that

951
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure to circle back to remember

952
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: how we talked about our buddy Cody Alexander match Quarters

953
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: and his NFL defensive scheme diversity ratings or grades or however.

954
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: He put it.

955
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: Minnesota was number two on that list, second most diverse

956
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: defense in the NFL. They were like a ninety something,

957
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 2: ninety one or ninety three something like that, based off

958
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: of based off of.

959
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: Actually kind of high on that too. But I can

960
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: promise you that if Flores were the head coach here, TJ.

961
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: Watt wouldn't always line up on the left in Highsmith

962
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: on the right and Cam over the left guard. I

963
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: mean like there'd be a massive amount of things you

964
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: haven't seen before.

965
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that could certainly be on the docket

966
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: as we're seeing and discussing a lot of things that

967
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: have not been seen and discussed for a long time.

968
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Such a different way of looking at the team.

969
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: It's funny. I'm laughing.

970
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm scrolling through Twitter here, just making sure no last

971
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: minute news, last minute anything like that that we've missed

972
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: that we need to make sure to bring into the

973
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: fold here. Dan Orlowski, of course of ESPN, just quote

974
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: tweeted the Dante more news of him returning, and he said,

975
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: let me reiterate, Malik Willis is going to be highly

976
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: paid this off season. Oh yeah, yeah, Leek Willis another

977
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: one who gets happier, is more and more go back

978
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: to college.

979
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: That goes up. But I am very interested.

980
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: We will discuss that plenty in the in the following

981
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: days and weeks. So real quick, the five names that

982
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: we know that the Steelers are requesting to interview Brian

983
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: Flores of course, Vikings defensive coordinator that we just mentioned,

984
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter Chargers defensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver, Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator,

985
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: Chris Shula La Rams defensive coordinator, and then Nathan Shellhouse,

986
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: past game coordinator of the LA Rams so so far

987
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: for d c's and one pass game coordinator.

988
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: So I know a lot of people like you have

989
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: to hire an offensive guy, and I certainly understand that

990
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: line of thinking, but I just wanted to tell you

991
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: there's eight teams that are still alive for these coaches

992
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: are offensive, four defenses. There's a lot of way as

993
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: a win this league.

994
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because I had that

995
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: conversation with our buddy Tom. We were talking about the

996
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: same thing, like, I hope they go and get an

997
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: offensive guy. This was yesterday. I hope they going and

998
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: get an Offensiveuy, wouldn't it be a night if they

999
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: really want to change, you know, wide spread wholesale changes,

1000
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: get an offensive guy. And then I was watching TV

1001
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: in the graphics of the the eight teams still remaining

1002
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: are up, and I'm going through my mind. I'm like Bears,

1003
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: offensive guy, Rams, offensive guy. Okay, but you know, like

1004
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: Patriots are, Broncos are. I mean, it's a lot. There's

1005
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: four and four. There's eight head coaches left four defensive

1006
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: backgrounds for offensive backgrounds. So you're right, there's no one

1007
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: way to skin a cat or else. Everybody would do

1008
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: it that way. But I'm whether it's the head coach

1009
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: or the offensive coordinator, I'm.

1010
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 5: Just very very intre quarterback, very.

1011
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Intrigued to see how it relates to the future of

1012
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback position.

1013
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been twenty four hours since coach Hamlin

1014
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: gave his resignation, and boy, we are going to get

1015
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: tired of saying it's all about the next quarterback. It's

1016
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: about next quarter.

1017
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 5: It's fun now, but it is.

1018
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: It'll be tired, so eventually.

1019
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 3: That's got to be the theme.

1020
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: Matt.

1021
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: A lot of fun today, enjoying this brave new world,

1022
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: this whole new world that we're navigating together, one show

1023
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: at a time. Thanks to Chris Adanski for joining us

1024
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: on a busy day. Thanks to Nathan for producing on

1025
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: the radio side mister TV Tyler V keeping us handsome

1026
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: on YouTube for Matt Williamson. I'm Wes Yuler. Tomorrow this

1027
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: pros and cons of the Steelers head coaching job. Where

1028
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 2: does it rank now amongst the nine other well eight

1029
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: other nine in total vacancies across the NFL for head coaches.

1030
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: We will really start to deep dive and dissect all

1031
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: of that on the program on Thursday. So we'll talk

1032
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow. As always, you know where to find us.

1033
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Speaker 2: It's on your twenty four seven home of the Black

1034
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