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Speaker 2: Jonathan. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No

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Speaker 2: Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, July sixth

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Speaker 2: and the boys are back in the Classic Factory. Great

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Speaker 2: Skeets and alongside me, as always, we've got tas Millie.

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern breaking down that race the British Grand Prix,

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Speaker 2: which I mean I saw it. That was the best

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Speaker 4: So far and look skeets an early restart in the

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Speaker 4: British Grand Prix, one of the best races of the season.

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Speaker 4: of our best shows of the off season coming up.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. I hope so, I hope. So we got

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Speaker 2: a classic I think lined up here. We got so

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Speaker 2: much to talk about. We're gonna debate which team has

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Speaker 2: I think we'll share our biggest takeaways from the Rudy

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Speaker 2: Gobert to the Minnesota Timberwolves trade at least from you guys.

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Speaker 2: I had a chance to talk about with the people

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Speaker 2: on the stream team. But you guys can chime in

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Speaker 2: hypothetical Kevin Durant trade packages will do that. You get

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Speaker 2: tweeted the night, But first, how was everybody's vacation? So

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Speaker 2: you jumping off like a. I don't know how high

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Speaker 1: Thirty to forty feet? Yeah, yeah, big old cliff, little cliff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. We're out in the boat cruising around up

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Speaker 1: jumping off and one of the guys said, hey, you

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Speaker 1: want to do that? I said, yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: So. Yeah, you weren't playing, You didn't You didn't drive

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Speaker 1: No, no, we were driver past it and uh and

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Speaker 1: so we so we I jumped out of the water.

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Speaker 1: This is a crazy thing. It's harder to get up

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Speaker 1: up the rocks. There wasn't like a little staircase, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: so basically you have to jump off, and I did.

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Speaker 1: It was very exhilarating, very scary, but awesome, awesome feeling

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Speaker 3: You can't. Of course, you definitely should, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, did you do anything as exciting as that?

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Speaker 3: I was on a roller coaster thirty foot drop. I

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Speaker 2: Sure, coaster life and JD. You were in Canada for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what type of fisher?

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Speaker 5: Well those are mackerel, yeah, which you know, they're not

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Speaker 1: But obviously easy to catch though if you how dare you?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I was there was, there was.

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Speaker 5: The whole wharf was full of people, and I was

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm just in the right splot.

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Speaker 3: How many times did you say holy mackerel? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: two on the line, boom four.

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Speaker 2: On the line, like crazy okay, and you cooked them up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we cooked the ones that we Yeah there the

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Speaker 2: The ones you would hope you just wouldn't cook the

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Speaker 2: fishing right there. Awesome? And what about you, I know

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Speaker 2: you didn't really go anywhere yet.

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Speaker 4: No. I bought a car and I went to the pool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Well, I do have some NBA

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Speaker 2: news I wanted to throw at you guys. Some of

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Speaker 2: it late breaking happened last night. Chet Holmgren, he's amazing.

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Speaker 2: He shined in his first Summer League game. You just

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Speaker 2: The Bulls agreed to a one year deal with Goran Dragic. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: There The only thing that people want to talk about

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Speaker 3: is Chet hole. From that list, Chet is just too

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Speaker 3: good for the competition. Should have been picked number one.

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Speaker 3: He's just too good. He did look phenomenal. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: okay see is that he's too good for everybody out there.

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Speaker 3: And that's the good sign that he dominated out there,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's all you can take. I know,

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Speaker 3: we want to jump and get excited, and Keegan Murray

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Speaker 3: should be exciting Kings fans.

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Speaker 2: They're win games this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're winning four games. That's exciting. Yeah, but listen,

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Speaker 3: Chet can obviously handle. I think people probably didn't see

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Speaker 3: a lot of that, especially in the tournament. I think

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Speaker 2: Like you bet Chit, you bet chet chet something.

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Speaker 4: He looked awesome though, and he should have went number one.

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Speaker 4: I called it beforehand. It was always my number one guy,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah, Thunder looking great here, And like I said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's summer league. Who really cares about any

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Speaker 2: start there for Thunder and Kings fans. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 2: into Kevin Durant trade packages, and then we will talk

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Speaker 2: about teams making improvements this offseason and the go Bear

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Speaker 2: But I heard the Glue Guys, which is a great

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Speaker 3: Right, so there's a little Brian Windhorst. What they trade

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Speaker 3: it for? Royce O need first round? They trade a

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Speaker 2: And they only get They signed Patty Mills and they

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Speaker 2: a great article the Athletics doing great work. Hollinger had

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Speaker 2: I picked some of my favorites. I actually just picked

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Speaker 2: of the leader board is the Phoenix Suns. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: won't take long because you've heard it already a million times.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant to the Suns for DeAndre Ayton, mckail Bridges.

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Speaker 1: Right now. Devin Book assigned his extension. He's the one.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Trey, if you can turn DeAndre Ayton,

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Speaker 4: who doesn't seem to be a part of the future

433
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Speaker 4: for Phoenix in the first place, if you can turn

434
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Speaker 4: him into Kevin Durant, do it in a heartbeat. I

435
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 4: don't care about the picks later. There are going to

436
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Speaker 4: be a ton of picks no matter who gets this

437
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 4: deal done, because the Jonte Murray trade and then the

438
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Speaker 4: Rudy Gobart trade drove the price up, no doubt about it,

439
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: picks wise, So yeah, you'd be trading your third and

440
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Speaker 4: fourth best player for the guy who would instantly be

441
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Speaker 4: your best player. That's an easy one, but that's going

442
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Speaker 4: to kind of be my response for every one of

443
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Speaker 4: these trades. If you can get Kevin Durant, you should

444
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Speaker 4: do it because you might win the title.

445
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Speaker 2: Right right? Okay, so that you're looking at it a

446
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: lot of the times here when we go through these,

447
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Speaker 2: what are the Nets getting back and what's the best

448
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: deal they can get? Yeah, yeah, your best player or whatever.

449
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 2: Sous is right.

450
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Speaker 4: Like, if you're saying we want two All stars and

451
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Speaker 4: you get back two guys who maybe might make one

452
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,160
Speaker 4: or two All Star games, that'll look a lot little

453
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Speaker 4: bit underwhelming, but I think that that's probably what the

454
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Speaker 4: Nets would prefer. We'll here are your trades.

455
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Speaker 3: Can we go forward?

456
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the Grizzlies. We'll stand in the west.

457
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant to the Grizzlies for Jaron Jackson Junior, so

458
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Speaker 2: he would be the key piece of this. Dylan Brooks

459
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Speaker 2: and again multiple first round picks, multiple first round swaps.

460
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Speaker 2: So the focus on Jaron Jackson Junior and Dylan Brooks,

461
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Speaker 2: who is look, he brings a light to the table,

462
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Speaker 2: takes it off the table a couple of times again season.

463
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Speaker 2: But what do you think, Yeah, well, I think the

464
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Speaker 2: Grizzlies do that. Of course, if you're the Nets, the

465
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Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson, he was fantastic this season, but those injuries

466
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Speaker 2: and the sort of long term prospects there, I think

467
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Speaker 2: you'd probably want to get a little bit more as well.

468
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Speaker 2: You'd want to you'd want to get some other pieces

469
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Speaker 2: or I'm trying to think of who else you'd want

470
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Speaker 2: to throw maybe a Desmond Bane or someone as well.

471
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Speaker 2: He's like makes nothing, Yeah, he's Yeah, he's got a

472
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Speaker 2: very small contract, But I mean Jaron Jackson. Prior to

473
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Speaker 2: the injury, his value I think was higher. But right

474
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Speaker 2: now he's out for four to six months, so that's

475
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Speaker 2: very Actually Christmas you're looking at before you get back,

476
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Speaker 2: and he's still got a tremendous amount of improvement to go.

477
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Speaker 2: But if this season is like platform, okay, sure, but

478
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Speaker 2: I think that's just a little hesitancy. You'd want a

479
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Speaker 2: little more than just Brooks and Jackson, especially in comparing

480
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Speaker 2: it to the Sun's absolutely hypathetical deal.

481
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Speaker 3: You agree with that Sun's package is better, I think,

482
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Speaker 3: and I think if there's one team that is sort

483
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Speaker 3: of locked into the way they build their teams and

484
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Speaker 3: maybe don't want to go outside and make a trade

485
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Speaker 3: like this. I think it's a Grizzlies. I think they're

486
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Speaker 3: kinda not stubborn isn't the right word, but you know,

487
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Speaker 3: they're headstrong. They want to build it from within, and

488
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Speaker 3: I think they're ready to do that. Obviously. It's Kevin

489
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Speaker 3: Durant twenty nine. Teams should be making a call, The

490
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Speaker 3: Warriors should be calling and seeing how they can get him.

491
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Speaker 3: But I would take the Sun's package ty over this one.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 4: I think I would prefer the Sun's package as well.

494
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Speaker 3: Though.

495
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Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson Junior is probably my favorite of those three

496
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Speaker 4: players between Jackson, Eyton and Bridges. But like Li saying,

497
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Speaker 4: the health concerns are certainly real, and honestly, if you're Memphis,

498
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Speaker 4: like they've already lost a couple of players this offseason,

499
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Speaker 4: and Kyle Anderson and d Anthony Mountain, you know, not

500
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Speaker 4: big players but rotation pieces for sure. They're just getting

501
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Speaker 4: more and more expensive now. They would trade away Jaron

502
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Speaker 4: Jackson Junior, you're left with John Morant and Kevin Durant.

503
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: Sounds cool, sounds very cool when you say it together,

504
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: but I don't necessarily know that that makes them a

505
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Speaker 4: title contender right away. And if you're the Nets and

506
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Speaker 4: you're looking at which picks are going to be better

507
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Speaker 4: in the future, I would rather take my chance getting

508
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Speaker 4: the Phoenix Suns picks, knowing that Chris Paul's going to

509
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Speaker 4: retire probably before those picks are conveyed. Those picks could

510
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Speaker 4: end up way better than a Memphis pick with John Morant,

511
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Speaker 4: who's early into his career, so I would be expecting

512
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Speaker 4: Phoenix to fall apart sooner than Memphis, all things considered.

513
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Speaker 4: So give me the Suns over the Grizzlies so far.

514
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Speaker 2: All right, This next one, I think by way of ESPN,

515
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Speaker 2: and they're sort of stable of writers there. Three team deal,

516
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Speaker 2: all right, let's get Kinky Durant and Derek Favors Yeah

517
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Speaker 2: to the Nuggets. In a three team deal here, the

518
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Speaker 2: Nets would get Michael Porter, Junior Gordon, and then three

519
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Speaker 2: first round picks by way of the Oklahoma City Thunder,

520
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Speaker 2: because the Thunder get your AZZI another Ben Simmons.

521
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, So this one takes.

522
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Speaker 2: A second A wrap, ye, Katie two the Nuggets to

523
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Speaker 2: pair with your Kitch the Nets getting Michael Porter Junior

524
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Speaker 2: as the key young talent there, Aaron Gordon, then all

525
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Speaker 2: the picks from Oksey Thunder getting Ben Simmons.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first off, I do think there is going

527
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Speaker 1: to be probably minimum three teams.

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Speaker 2: Involved, right A lot of people are thinking.

529
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Speaker 1: That, maybe even more because of the contracts and things

530
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Speaker 1: like that, and the Ben Simmons deal as well, like

531
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Speaker 1: because you can't have two rookie scales on the same team,

532
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Speaker 1: so that takes out a couple of other guys who

533
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Speaker 1: are potentially being thrown in. I know we can get

534
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Speaker 1: one of the rookie, but if you're Denver, yes, again,

535
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Speaker 1: if you're getting the Kevin Durant, you're more than happy

536
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Speaker 1: to part with Michael Porter and Aaron.

537
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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

538
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Speaker 1: Now, Michael Porter, you know, look, he signed the big contract,

539
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: but he's obviously got serious injury issues as well. He

540
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Speaker 1: missed basically the entire season last season. His upside is

541
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Speaker 1: very tempting and tantalizing, but you just don't know exactly

542
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: how long you can stay on the court and what

543
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: a bet he's gonna do on the defensive end. So

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets would say, yes, I think if you're the

545
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. You're like, well, we're gonna need we're gonna

546
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Speaker 1: need a more legit star, and Gordon's obviously not that guy.

547
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Speaker 1: So I don't think this one gets done as it

548
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Speaker 1: is right there.

549
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what do you think.

550
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Speaker 3: That's fun to look at? Because Michael Porter Junior always

551
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: compared to Kevin during the body of the game. But

552
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Speaker 3: I don't see that. I don't see the thunder taking

553
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons. I don't like, you're gonna clog Chet Holmgren's lane,

554
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: Chet's MVP.

555
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: Man throwing loves to chat.

556
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Speaker 3: You got two you're already You're gonna have two z's

557
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 3: there who can't shoot, and Josh Giddy and Ben Simmons. Nah,

558
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think just pass.

559
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Speaker 1: Into each other and shoot it.

560
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Speaker 6: But thoughts on them, that sounds hilarious. You got two

561
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Speaker 6: who don't want to shoot the ball and just passing

562
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 6: to two guys who look exactly the same. That's the

563
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Speaker 6: weirdest possible team. You could have two guys with the

564
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Speaker 6: same name on the same thing.

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Speaker 4: They only have like seven players, but there's two of each,

566
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Speaker 4: one of them to make their whole team. So I

567
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Speaker 4: say do it. Michael Porter Junior actually kind of interests

568
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Speaker 4: me if I'm the Nets because of the players coming back,

569
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Speaker 4: he's the guy you can talk yourself into the most

570
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Speaker 4: becoming a superstar somewhere down the road, like maybe Ayton

571
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Speaker 4: takes the next step becomes a twenty two and thirteen

572
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: guy who's your go to offensive player. But I don't

573
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: necessarily know if that's in the cards. At least with

574
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Speaker 4: Michael Porter Junior, you can talk yourself into this guy

575
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: could have been the number one pick three seasons ago

576
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Speaker 4: if he didn't have back problems. Obviously he's had back

577
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: problems at Missouri and then with Denver as well. But

578
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Speaker 4: if you can convince yourself that the medicals are fine,

579
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Speaker 4: that you're gonna be able to take care of them,

580
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Speaker 4: that Steve Nash knows how to handle a bad back,

581
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Speaker 4: maybe you can say this is the guy we're actually

582
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: building around going forward. That's a huge, a huge bet

583
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Speaker 4: if you're gonna make it, But at least you can

584
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Speaker 4: see the ceiling being a little bit higher if MPG

585
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Speaker 4: is your star coming back.

586
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if the Nets want guys who can

587
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Speaker 3: play in that And because they just went through this

588
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: whole Frigain season, these whole few years where guys weren't playing.

589
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: So maybe Michael Porter Junior isn't a risk you're willing

590
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: to take. But it is fun to look at just

591
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: the landscape of all the guys that they could trade for.

592
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: Who is the guy who could be the superstar? And

593
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 3: it could be Michael Porter Junior if you compare him

594
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: to eight and into Bridges and two guys like Siakam,

595
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: he could he has the highest ceiling of all of them.

596
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, that huge question mark.

597
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the weird part about that trade is like you're

598
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: not only losing Durant, but Ben Simmons is also like

599
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: leaving your team, not even of course having even really

600
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Speaker 2: played for you yet, and you're getting Michael Porter Junior

601
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Speaker 2: and Aaron Gordon back to replace them. Like you know,

602
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: the tasty OKC picks there, I guess, are in theory

603
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Speaker 2: better than any of these other picks we've said from

604
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Speaker 2: these teams and in terms of first round picks if

605
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Speaker 2: they were unprotected but unlikely, I think that one let's

606
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Speaker 2: go to the Raptors. I mean, before I give you

607
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: the one that I think is the most realistic, would

608
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: you trade Scottie Barnes, you know, Kevin durantel. Oh, that's

609
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: a question to you.

610
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: I guess it depends on the package. Is it Scotti

611
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: and Picks? Ah?

612
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, Picks as.

613
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: The second player, because if you're paying for Kevin, if

614
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: you're training for Kevin Durant, you have to win the championship.

615
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: That's that's obviously the goal in the next couple of years.

616
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: And if you're trading Fred or Pascal along with Scott,

617
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: if you're not, you're not necessarily a championship.

618
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Okay, but you need But if you think it's Scottie

619
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: Barnes and Ogi and then Picks and Swamps.

620
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah you probably do it. And I don't like it.

621
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: I don't like it one bit, but yeah, you probably

622
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 3: do it.

623
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Speaker 2: Would you do it?

624
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Yes? I mean for Scotty Scotty as the best player, Yes,

625
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: for sure. Because the Raptors can't just got of their

626
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: entire team to get Kevin Durant and then be like, well,

627
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna win whatever Kevin Durant can give us throughout

628
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: the season. So I think so, and my prediction is

629
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Speaker 1: he will end up on the Raptors. I think that's

630
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: where he's gonna go because of these other contract machinations

631
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: for these other teams. I think MESSIGERI is going to

632
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: get it done. It's just whether or not he's who

633
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: is going to give up out of Pascal, O, g

634
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: Fred and Scotty, he's gonna have to give up absolutely

635
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: one of those most most likely too.

636
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how.

637
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: He can finesse it to get it here because I

638
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: think again, I think Brooklyn will go, yep, we'll take

639
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: Og and we'll take Scotty and some picks. I think

640
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's that's where it gets started the conversation.

641
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: So and besides, you're man, he got Kawhi. That was

642
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: that was the big one. That's that's why I'm like,

643
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: I believe that mass is going to get it done here.

644
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: So Kawhi was a lot younger, though, I don't think. Yeah,

645
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: but I know Kevin Durant's one of the best in

646
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Speaker 3: the world. He's going to be thirty four, yes, you know,

647
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Speaker 3: I think that has to factor in.

648
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Speaker 1: Well, And look, he's played ninety games in the last

649
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: three seasons. And I remember earlier this season when he

650
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: was playing those heavy minutes. He's like, I don't care,

651
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I want to play, and then he got injured and

652
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: he missed six weeks, so there is certainly some injury

653
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: concern going forward. He's missed an entire year with a Nikelles,

654
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: he missed an entire not in entire season, a lot

655
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: of a season back in okay See with a knee injury,

656
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: and he's got tons of minutes in his legs. But

657
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: you still you're not gonna buy into that. You're gonna say, well,

658
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I'll take Kim Durant, even if only one really good season,

659
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: because of what happened with Kawhi, they got there. So

660
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying k D to the Raptors, what do you think?

661
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: I think the same people that don't want to trade

662
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: Scotty Barnes for Kevin Durant didn't want to trade Demarta

663
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Rosen for Kawhi Leonard, and like Lee said, it worked out.

664
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: You need an absolute superstar to win a championship. Maybe

665
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: Scotty Barnes gets there someday, but Kevin Durant is there.

666
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: I would do it in a second. I would trade

667
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: anybody on the Raptors for Kevin.

668
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Durant, so you would. So obviously the nets are gonna

669
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Speaker 2: say give us, give us three of the four, like

670
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Speaker 2: they're gonna say Scotty Og and you know, I guessam

671
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: or friend Himvliet at that point, and then a couple

672
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: of picks and like that, now you're getting that's getting expensive,

673
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: let's getting rich. But you're doing every anything to get Kevin.

674
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Speaker 4: Scotty and Og would be my choicest Okay, yeah, I

675
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 4: think Barnes has to go back if the if the

676
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: Nets are doing this deal, I mean maybe they would

677
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: take Siakam as well, but if I if I'm the Raptors,

678
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: I would rather keep Sam and Kevin Durant next to

679
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 4: each other. There's not a lot of minutes to go

680
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: around for an Ogan Andobi and Scottie Barnes as well.

681
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: Maybe you're able to get another center there, but you

682
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: need a little bit of ball handling with Fred van Vliet.

683
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: So I would trade two of the three forwards to

684
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Speaker 4: get Kevin Durant.

685
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Speaker 2: I think how quickly things change in the NBA. We're

686
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: like a year removed from Raptors fans being upset that

687
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: they took Scottie Barnes or jel And Suggs at the

688
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: draft to now those same fans going I've trading Scotty

689
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: for Kevin Durant. Are you crazy? I mean, look the

690
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: air not giving up on it. It's just nuts. Well

691
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: and that's some truth to it.

692
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And on the surface that is, let's say it's

693
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Speaker 1: og and the first overall pick in the draft, because

694
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Speaker 1: that's what he kind of turned out to be Scotty

695
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: by being Rookie of the Year, So that when you're

696
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: trading these draft picks, that's what you're hoping for, is like, oh, wow,

697
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: we got the rookie of the year. Yes, that's that

698
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: increases that value of that player. So I think I

699
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: think that's where it's going to start. I mean, Scotty's gone,

700
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Speaker 1: no matter what if Kevin's coming.

701
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Speaker 2: Really, see, I'm not so sure about that. Why why

702
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't the nets like all these packages we're throwing out here,

703
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: what's wrong with the Pascal Siakam and youanna nob and

704
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: then multiple first round picks and multiple first round swaps.

705
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: It's good. That's that's on par with a lot of

706
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: these other deals. He's a proven SAKA All NBA player.

707
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Yes, Scotty though rookie contract, You've got him at least

708
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: there for four years on a cheap deal and two

709
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: way player young you know, established himself already. I just

710
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: think the Nets don't don't make a deal without having

711
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Scotty come back. That's my thoughts on it.

712
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: I would really love to be in Kevin Durant's head

713
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: as to if he wants to be a Toronto Raptor,

714
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: because on one hand, yeah, he played two K with

715
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: him when he was growing up, one of his favorite team.

716
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: On the other hand, they boot him. They actually sorry,

717
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: they cheered when he fell with the ACL injury in

718
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen in the finals. You get to lead a country,

719
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: but they just won a championship, just like going to

720
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Golden State, which is the strange thing to me. You

721
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: he was already looked at as sort of the second

722
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: fill in Golden State when he went there. If he

723
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: wins another championship with Toronto, it's not really his championship.

724
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Why are you talkings? What are you talking about his championship?

725
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: It would be it's his championship. Yeah, but he's not

726
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: bringing the first championship to the front.

727
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: You think that's really that that important?

728
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: He was.

729
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: He left Golden State after being looked at as the

730
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: second film and I think that's kind of what happened.

731
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: Why the only two teams on his list were the

732
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: Suns and the Heat.

733
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: What you're saying, if Kawhi Leonard was still on the

734
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Raptors and then Durant goes to them, it's like, okay,

735
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: well whose team is it? All that like? But he's

736
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 2: long gone and Kevin Durant comes to the Raptors. No

737
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: matter who goes back or doesn't, he's the guy that would,

738
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: in theory, lead them.

739
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: To any He just looked. He's looked at as a

740
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: hired gun again because they wouldn't go Kawhi. They won

741
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: a championship, now they're going to go get Kadi. It's

742
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: just not a very genuine, authentic championship.

743
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: So you think he has to almost go to a

744
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: team that's never won a title.

745
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's he put female on the list for whatever.

746
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: He won a bunch of titles.

747
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been a bit. But uh yeah, I don't know,

748
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: why is he not? What why aren't they on the list?

749
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: If there? If I don't know, that's.

750
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: A finish in first place?

751
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: What's a really good team? All right, here's let's do

752
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: the Heat one. This one's insane because of the whole

753
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Bam out of Bio. If he were to go in

754
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: the potential trade, then that means Ben Simmons probably has

755
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: to be traded because the two designated rookie max extensions there. Anyway,

756
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: this one, this may have been our guy Holland direct.

757
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: I should have really wrote down and gave credit. But Durant,

758
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons and Seth Curry was a lot going to Miami.

759
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: Heat here Lee for basically the entire team in Miami, Bam, Lowry, Duncan, Robinson,

760
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero, multiple first round picks probably twenty three and

761
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: twenty eight, and then multiple first round swaps. It's a lot. Yeah,

762
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: it's two teams. I mean Jimmy staying obviously is Miami, Durant,

763
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons going there, and then a bunch of guys

764
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: going back.

765
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: To prob And that's the whole thing with him going

766
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: in Miami. They're not gonna try Jimmy because they need

767
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: those two together, so they have to get it. But

768
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: then if you're gonna trade everybody else and you're gonna

769
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: have Dwayne Deadman as your thought or it's like the

770
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Heat then become I mean, not weaker, but it's it's

771
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: harder to see how they sort of vault immediately into

772
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: favoritism in the Eastern Conference. But because of the Ben

773
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Simmons stuff and the BAM, this one's just not gonna happen.

774
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I haven't I honestly, really, I'm

775
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: really not including Miami in this scenario right now because

776
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't think the Nets can honestly palm Ben Simmons

777
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: off twenty one as much as they'd love to. I

778
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: think he's kind of damaged goods at the moment.

779
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Snort emoji.

780
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: I just like, there's no doubt in my mind the

781
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: Nets would would would get rid of Simmons in.

782
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: A halfway if they could, because they.

783
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: They got him and he didn't play, and what are

784
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: you going to get long term? And then in order

785
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: of course, if they can get BAM, I think yes,

786
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: they would go, Okay, great, we'll start with BAM. But

787
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: they can't with Simmons on the on the on the roster,

788
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: So it's almost like a null point at the moment.

789
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen to Miami.

790
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is pretty far fetched here.

791
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: This is this is Miami Heat giving literally like four

792
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: of their key guys, four three of the Nets key guys.

793
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: I guess, but yeah, that's just tough.

794
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: This is like somebody doing the trade machine with like

795
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 3: a ten teamer.

796
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I certainly blind.

797
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. The caption, dude, the caption is always I solved

798
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 3: every NBA team's problems ten teamer and then I can't

799
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: get past team too. Uh. He wants to go to

800
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: the Heat, but he didn't want Bam being traded obviously,

801
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: Jimmy being traded. Was there a third? Was it Kyle?

802
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: I think it was Kyle Lowry. He didn't Wantkyle Lowry

803
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: being traded either, but the Nets would have to take

804
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: back Kyle Lowry, I guess because Kyle's contract doesn't look

805
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: all that great right now. So it's unfortunate. But I

806
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: think the Heater and I don't think the Heater are

807
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: getting involved. I don't think it's gonna happen. It's just

808
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. Okay, but they still got a great team.

809
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay. Thoughts on this wild Heat and that should do it.

810
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: They're getting pretty solid team. If they pulled this trade,

811
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: they might be a top four team in the Eastern Conference.

812
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: If they're able to trade for four fifths of the

813
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 4: starting lineup of the Miami Heat. But Kevin Durant wants

814
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: to go there to play with the guys who are there.

815
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a tough one for pat Riley.

816
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: But I figure stuff out when others don't. So I

817
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: don't think it's you know, it's it's far fetched, But

818
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: weirder things have happened.

819
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Final one here the Hawks. They're not done, all right.

820
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: Katie and Joe Harris to the Atlanta Hawks for John Collins,

821
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: Clint Capella, Bogdanovic multiple first round picks, probably twenty three

822
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: and twenty nine, and then multiple first round swaps. So Collins, Capella,

823
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: bogg Dan Bogdanovic said that really weird to the Nets

824
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: for Katie and Joe Harris. Make the money work Hawks.

825
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Yes, the Nets probably have a little bit of higher

826
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: hopes there. Now. I will say, I'm a big John

827
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Collins fan. I'm not ready to die on that hill,

828
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: but I'm still hiking up that hill right.

829
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: Now and jump off the clothes.

830
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I'm not quite up there at that point. Capella, Yeah,

831
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: he's fine, Bogdanovic, He's entering Kylos Delfina to sorry for me.

832
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: I just I just I just I love it. I

833
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: just I want a consistent, real long stretch of Bogdanovich's

834
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: on the He absolutely is when he's hot, he's incredible

835
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: and he's so much fun to watch, but he just

836
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: he has some clunkers in there as well. So it's

837
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: the picks then what you're ritting on top of that,

838
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: And the Hawks have already given away you know, basically

839
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: four well three in a swap and to get de

840
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Jontay Murray. So I'm not sure they even I'm not

841
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: sure if they have others from from various trades or

842
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: not there. But so I just sort of don't think

843
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: they've got enough. If you're if you're the Nets, you're saying,

844
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: John Collins, nice, but we're gonna need extras in this.

845
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna happen.

846
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: Not happening. Yeah, I don't think the Hawks have enough

847
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: Number one. Number two, if you're the Nets looking at

848
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: the landscape, they want a Starbuck, and yeah, they can

849
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: do better. Unfortunately, for John Collins, his star hasn't risen

850
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: bugged down, bugged down, aviches, bogged down. Dang Dang Dang

851
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Dang and the Bang Bang Bang Bag Gaming, Banged Boy

852
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: and the Bag Dan. He hasn't reached that level. You

853
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: would pick somebody else throughout the NBA landscape then to

854
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: headline a package. And that's why I think it's going

855
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: to be somewhat underwhelming when we all see it on Twitter,

856
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: when we're all at Summer League. Yeah, it's probably gonna

857
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: happen in October or something, but when we all see

858
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: it come through, we're all gonna say, after all this hype,

859
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: after all this build up, I don't think the Nets

860
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: are going to get as much as we do. Think.

861
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be a Hawks

862
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: type package, but they can do better. I think at

863
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: the top end of.

864
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: That, yeah, I agree the players the Hawks would or

865
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: the Nets would be getting back or fine players, good players,

866
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: And I guess the probably the biggest argument you can

867
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: make is that then if you're bringing in Collins and Bogdanovitch,

868
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: you could flip them for a first round pick in

869
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: the future. But if that was the case, I bet

870
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: the Hawks would do that. You know, probably would be

871
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: looking to move those guys as well, so maybe the

872
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: trade value isn't at the highest and then Nets want players.

873
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 4: I do think, all things considered, since they don't have

874
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 4: any picks, and getting him in the twenties, it helps.

875
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: But not as much.

876
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so we did all these potential Katie trade packages.

877
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: There's another one hundred out there. I won't bore you

878
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: with them now, but you I believe Trey agree maybe

879
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: with Kendrick Perkins a little bit task sort of leaning

880
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: that way, that is it that far fetch that Kevin

881
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: Durant is still on the Brooklyn Nets at the start

882
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: of the season, and like they can, like you know,

883
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: make this work. And whether that means what, like where

884
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Kyrie comes to an equation, I'm not sure, but like

885
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: it could he be there?

886
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: He could, He definitely could. But I think Kevin Durant

887
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: is gonna get traded. I think it's a little bit

888
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 4: different than Ben Simmons coming into camp upset, than James

889
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: Harden coming into camp upset. This is a guy who,

890
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 4: like when he's on the court, is one of the

891
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: three best players in the league. And even if you're

892
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: not convinced that his health is going to hold up

893
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 4: over the course of the rest of the four years,

894
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: here the one or two years that it does hold up,

895
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: you're loving it. So I kind of think he will

896
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: be traded, but it might take a little bit to happen.

897
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: I can see the Clippers getting involved. That's an interesting

898
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: one that you see Paul George for Kevin Durant call

899
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: it in LA but we shall see. I think he

900
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: will be traded.

901
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: Though, Okay, and sounds like you think you think MESSAGERI

902
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: is gonna well.

903
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Of all those packages you mentioned, I feel outside of

904
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the Raptors, they've all got like things like with the

905
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: yich and stuff in the contract. That's something they have

906
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: to work through. The Heat's not gonna happen the Grizzlies.

907
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: The Hawk, the Raptors one is pretty clean.

908
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

909
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: It's all depending on and this Scottie burones involved in

910
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: the trade, and then how many of those like you

911
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: guys are going back.

912
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing that the Raptors can actually make this

913
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: legitimately happen. So you know and listen, I do believe

914
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: that that championship they won Messiah Jerry has brought so

915
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: much more respect to the Raptors as an organization that

916
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's not gonna be it's not gonna be like

917
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: the old days was like, oh I'm going to Toronto.

918
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: It's like a respectable franchise. Messiah Ury's done a fantastic

919
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: job drafting and signing free agents and doing everything. So

920
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant probably look and go there's a chance there

921
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: in Toronto that we should be absolutely at the worst,

922
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: sort of third best team in the Eastern Conference.

923
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's call it there. Send in your

924
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: best Kevin Durant trade packages. Let us know what you think.

925
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: Which team would you love to see him on? Tweet

926
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: them in at No Dunk sink leaming the YouTube comments,

927
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: email him in No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com.

928
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: We can do another hour talking about kay We have

929
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: a touch on Kyrie for crying out loud, like is

930
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: he going to be traded to the Lakers? Is he

931
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: gonna be traded with Kevin Durant? Is that a block

932
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: buzzer that could happen. We'll leave it for another day.

933
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, and when we come back, we'll

934
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: get into some of the other deals that did happen

935
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: overlap last week or so and debate which team is

936
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: improved the most.

937
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.

938
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So enough, Kad. Next talk for a second. Here,

939
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: we had the Hawks making a move for de John

940
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Tay Murray. We had the Wolves making a big move

941
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: for Rudy Gobert. Blazer's doing some things, getting Jeremy Grant,

942
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Gary Payton second, Nick signing Jalen Brunson away from the

943
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: MAVs Celtics making a deal for Malcolm Brogden. Love it right.

944
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: Of all these teams that I've listed, tests, maybe there's

945
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: what I'm forgetting. Which team has improved the most so

946
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: far this offseason. Obviously a lot still to determined, But

947
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: what do you think?

948
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the Atlanta Hawks getting an All

949
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: Star in his prime and Jeonta Murray. The guy's gonna

950
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: be twenty six by the time next season starts. They

951
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: needed someone to take ball handling pressure off Trey Young Check.

952
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: They needed to slow the offense on the other side

953
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: at the point of attack because they just couldn't stop

954
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: anybody from getting to the rim. Check. They've got a

955
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: great defensive assistant coach and Mike Longabardi that they just

956
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: signed Check. Obviously I'm joking about that, but he's gonna help,

957
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure but they had the fifth worst defense last

958
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: year and a big part of it was, Yeah, Trey

959
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. Now they've got the Jhonte rape beside him,

960
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: Shaun Tae can just be thrown at the lead ball

961
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 3: handler on the other side. He's so good at playing

962
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: on the defensive end. Led the league in steals and

963
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: deflections last year, and you look at his stats on

964
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: the offensive end, maybe he was asked to do a

965
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: little too much. It wasn't the most efficient player in

966
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: San Antonio. So he's helped by playing alongside Trey Young

967
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: that efficiency will go up. The thing with Trey now,

968
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: is is he going to want to play off the ball?

969
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Is he gonna, you know, be a Steph Curry light

970
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: and start running around screens. Maybe not, But I think

971
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: he's very, very very comfortable playing with de Jon Tay Murray.

972
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna take a little getting used to it, but

973
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 3: he wants to play with him by all signs. Tweet

974
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 3: he was actually longing for him to get there. Before

975
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: he got there, their buds and you look at the

976
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: their lineup now with those two in the back court.

977
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hunter, who's a really, really, really good defensive small ford,

978
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: he can stay on the floor in John Collins and

979
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Clint Capella and then bog down Bogdanovic back to the bench.

980
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: He might not like that, but he's perfect in that

981
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: six man role. They lost a couple guys in delonn right,

982
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 3: but at the same time, I think they're they're stronger.

983
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: I think they and Kevin Hurder I should say, I

984
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: think they are a stronger unit. I think they just

985
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: lost that attitude that got them to the conference finals

986
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: two years ago. They lost that defensive attitude. And when

987
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 3: de Jontay Murray is your first guy on the point

988
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 3: of attack, I think that attitude comes back real quick.

989
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: And Cli Capella looks like a player again, and John

990
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: call looks like a player again.

991
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: Colin is going to be treated yeah, who knows.

992
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's possible, but the lineup looks good right now.

993
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so he goes with the Hawks. What do you

994
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: think of all those other teams?

995
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: Well?

996
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the Hawks throo, but I do think

997
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: instead of them, I'm going to go with the Boston

998
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: Celtics because I think Malcolm Brogden is exactly what they

999
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: needed there. They needed a more traditional point gup. Marcus

1000
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: Smart did play very well for the set of second

1001
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: half of the season. But I think Brogden is an

1002
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: upgrade in that position because he is more a traditional guy.

1003
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: He's a good shooter of the ball. He's got a

1004
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: very steady hand. He can hit the three beautiful free

1005
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: throw shooter by the way, or he shoots it very

1006
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: well anyway, not the most beautiful style, but he gets

1007
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: the job done. So I think that's what Boston had

1008
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: to do. I don't think they need to make wholesale changes.

1009
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: They've been to the finals now, they've got some experience.

1010
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I know there's been a little Jalen Brown for Kevin

1011
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Durant sort of talk there. Maybe that'll happen, maybe not,

1012
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: who knows. But I think for the Celtics, you don't

1013
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: need to blow it up. He just needed to improve

1014
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: in some areas. They're going to get better next year,

1015
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: hopefully with Robert Williams in the center. That probably keep

1016
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: our horforit, So that part of it's fine.

1017
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: He didn't have to tread Grant Williams.

1018
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: I like. I like their balance and depth and and

1019
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: a nice steady move there from the Celtics, and they

1020
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: cost him Tyson Nei Smith. I think it was in

1021
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: the end, and that's really nothing. So I think the

1022
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics got better where they need to.

1023
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: Why are you always pointing out like a bunch of

1024
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: other guys and their injury concerns and not bringing it

1025
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: up when we're talking Brogan. Yeah, it never plays.

1026
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's right. He has missed a lot of games.

1027
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: He does get he is injury prone. But again, that's

1028
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: an improvement for the Celtics. They've gotten better there and

1029
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: they had they gave up nothing to get him, So

1030
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: it's like that's that's the real who else was available

1031
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: for what they had to give up, you know? And

1032
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: I think Brogden's just one of those guys is like

1033
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: not the sexiest player, but when he plays, you get

1034
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: a pretty reliable guy.

1035
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: Okay, that's like the biggest bag of beans package so

1036
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: far during the offseason, treating nothing to get a guy

1037
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: who's gonna at least help like Brogden probably comes off

1038
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: the bench, but a little steadier than Derek Waite, and

1039
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: Derek Waite was helpful for him last year. So the

1040
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: Celtics definitely got better, but the Minnesota temperable. So the

1041
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: only team that added a future Hall of Famer. Rudy

1042
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: Gobert is good. I still cannot decide though, if this

1043
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: is gonna work. It's the Alonso Morning meme of trades here, like,

1044
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: how could you trade for Rudy Gobert? I guess in

1045
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: the regular season, and it's kind of two different questions.

1046
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: Timberwolves are gonna be great in the regular season. They

1047
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: needed size, they needed defense, they needed rebounding. That is

1048
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert right there. Minnesota was already thirteenth in defense

1049
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: last year. A lot of that was forcing turnovers with

1050
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 4: Beverly and Vanderbilt, but at least they've got a solid foundation.

1051
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: They also added Kyle Anderson, so the defense is gonna

1052
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: be better. There are gonna be times when Towns looks

1053
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: terrible out on the perimeter, gets just dusted by whoever

1054
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: the stretch for is. But at least you got Rudy

1055
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: Gobert backing them up there. I'm even talking myself into this.

1056
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: On offense, Towns is shooting is gonna be helpful. The

1057
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberwolves took a ton of threes last year. They

1058
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 4: were first in attempts, first in makes. Anthony Edwards is

1059
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 4: great and getting better. The Jazz have been a top

1060
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: three offense when it was Mitchell Gobert, and that's what

1061
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: you're looking at with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Playoffs are going

1062
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: to be a different story. They will run into a

1063
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: team that goes five out, they will drag Rudy Gobert

1064
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: into the actions, and then it's going to be trying

1065
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: to finish over Karl Anthony Towns at the rim, which

1066
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: is pretty easy. But the Timberwolves haven't made consecutive playoff

1067
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: appearances since Kevin Garnett was in town, So worry about

1068
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: your playoff disappointments when you're actually making it to the playoffs.

1069
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: They paid a ton to get this guy. They're paying

1070
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: ninety two million dollars to two centers for the twenty

1071
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: twenty two twenty twenty three year. Sounds crazy, but you

1072
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: don't get to choose who's coming to Minnesota most of

1073
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: the time. So adding Rudy Gobert I think cool. Yeah,

1074
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in on it for right now. It's gonna

1075
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 4: look ridiculous in May and June, no doubt about it.

1076
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: But seeing the Timberwolves play in the play playoffs two

1077
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 4: straight seasons, that would be great for them.

1078
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Towns needed. He's not a great rim protective center.

1079
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, he's more like he gets bullied down there.

1080
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: So having Rudy there, now Towns can be way more dominant,

1081
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: I think, and especially on the offense. Vendez treys mentioning there, Okay,

1082
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Downs can spread the floor and then that

1083
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: happening three.

1084
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Point attempt is Carl Anthony Town's going to average.

1085
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: Six seven eight.

1086
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: Maybe he's already done that. This coreer that many. He

1087
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: averaged like seven point Naine one year, a couple of

1088
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: hours ago.

1089
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but though you know, now, like I've talked about this, well,

1090
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: the Towns is going to get to a poin where

1091
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, it's not happening. I went out

1092
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: of Minnesota. Well, now they've sort of addressed that before

1093
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: it gets to that point, like giving him like a

1094
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: legit talent there, who's gonna rebound, who's going to block shots,

1095
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: who's going to alter things.

1096
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Going to set those screens on some room for D'andelo

1097
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: Russell and great records this year as.

1098
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Far as you know, effectively they gave up five first

1099
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: round picks to get it. It's all right, but and

1100
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: again it's the same with the Hawks, with the Dejonte Murraymans.

1101
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Those ones shouldn't be lottery picks. Shouldn't be lottery picks.

1102
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the idea is like, Okay, if you're

1103
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: getting picked fifteen to twenty all those years, that really

1104
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't hurt. You'd rather take the thirty year old guy

1105
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: who you know what he's going to do defensively, and

1106
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: you know he's going to be motivated to you know,

1107
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert is going to be like, all right, I'm

1108
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: showing the you j as they messed up by trading me, Right,

1109
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: That's that's what he's going to be.

1110
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it's like, would you rather, like, look at

1111
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: the Celtics have done over the last couple of years,

1112
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: would you rather trade three first round picks that are

1113
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: sort of at the back end of the first round

1114
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: for Al Horford, Derek Wait and Malcolm Brogden, which is

1115
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: what they did with all three of those picks, or

1116
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of future picks and the swaps. Let's not

1117
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 2: forget they could come and play for like a Rudy

1118
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: Gobert tape Well, who has his limitations. As Trey is

1119
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: pointing out, like I mean, how good are the Wolves

1120
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: going to be?

1121
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: Here?

1122
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: Is what I'm getting at. Probably a good regular season team,

1123
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: but are they going to make it to the conference

1124
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: finals or A finals?

1125
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1126
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who knows when it gets to that point.

1127
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: But if they don't win fifty three games next year,

1128
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: that'll be a complete disaster for them. They should they

1129
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: absolutely specific, you know, but teams like the Hawks and

1130
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: like the Wolves, they have to basically give up those

1131
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: picks to get that super quality back. Otherwise they're just

1132
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: treading water. And Tim Connelly's gone in there and he's like,

1133
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: well why not make a splash. I mean, that's what

1134
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: they're paid him to do, and.

1135
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: Probably coming down from the new owners and stuff like that,

1136
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: of course they go nuts.

1137
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Let's absolutely absolutely and and I feel the jazz, you

1138
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: know exactly what Danny Ande is sitting there, just going

1139
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: more picks, more picks, give me, give me them all.

1140
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 1: So he gets them. So both teams should be happy.

1141
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, thoughts here on on Rudy Gobern's fascinating.

1142
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: Excited to watch it on both ends to see how

1143
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Karlthony Towns I think can be a decent enough sort

1144
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: of secondary rim protector. I think I think if they

1145
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: look at the Milwaukee Bucks and what they were able

1146
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: to do with Brook Lopez and units compo and sort

1147
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: of you know, funneling to each other all the time.

1148
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, Carlthony Towns doesn't have to get anywhere near

1149
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: the basket. And that's my where my worry is on

1150
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: the offense end, does he ever have to? You know,

1151
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: he he'll he'll drive, But is Rudy going to get

1152
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: in his way? Is Rudy's second defender going to get

1153
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: in his way? I think that's my my worry really,

1154
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: But I think the Wolves have enough depth when you

1155
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: look at it, to overcome you know, draft picks and

1156
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: trading four guys, you know, trading Patrick Beverley. Anthony Edwards

1157
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: is you know, a phenomenal player and a really good

1158
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: defender when he wants to be. They're high on Jane McDaniels,

1159
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 3: which I think they should be, Dangel Russell and Kyle

1160
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: Anderson who they picked up. You know, they're they've gone,

1161
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: they've gone all in on sort of their top six,

1162
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: top seven. Yeah, yeah, I wonder, you know, it kind

1163
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: of depends on Anthony Edwards being a Superstar. Really Yeah,

1164
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: that's a good part. But you know, I'm buying it.

1165
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm buying it by Anthony Edwards.

1166
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: I guess there's a concern. I mean, yeah, there's the

1167
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: idea that you got to pay two guys that are

1168
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: centers one hundred million dollars. That's one concern. All the

1169
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: draft picks future picks are giving out, that's another concern.

1170
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: You know. It's also I just look at the West,

1171
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, are they better than the Warriors?

1172
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: No?

1173
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: Are they better than the Suns? Probably not? Nuggets with

1174
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Yo Kich and they're guys coming back, especially Murray. I

1175
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: don't know, Grizzlies, Clippers. That's five teams already. Haven't said

1176
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: the MAVs.

1177
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: I think they're in that second tier.

1178
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1179
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: I think you would have Golden State and Phoenix. I mean,

1180
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: we'll see if they end up pulling off with Kevin

1181
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 4: drant but I think those are the top two teams.

1182
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: But like, Memphis got worse during this offseason, Utah is

1183
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: getting worse this offseason, Dallas got worse this offseason. They

1184
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: should be a top four team.

1185
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1186
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Like all those teams, you know, we don't know. But

1187
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because Minnesota got better. So that's that's

1188
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: their goal, is just getting better players. And now they've

1189
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: got a really quality play there. So they did the

1190
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: right thing.

1191
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got Anderson. I like that, slow mo. I

1192
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: don't want to gloss over the guys they did give

1193
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: up in the trade though, too, because yeah, they kept

1194
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: Tom McDaniels, which they were pumped about.

1195
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, we kept him.

1196
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, I've taken him from us Danny. But like

1197
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: Beasley was a he's hit or miss, he's streaky, but

1198
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: he's a prolific three point shooter for them. He was

1199
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 2: beverly the heart and soul of the defense. I don't

1200
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: think that's a stretch to say that, you know, he

1201
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: should be missed from perimeter defensive standpoint. And then Vanderbilt,

1202
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean they're like taking Vandermilton. They're just like upgrading

1203
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: him into Rudy Gobert because he did what they're gonna

1204
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: want Rudy to do better solid help defender, clean up

1205
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: the glass and do this sort of the dirty work,

1206
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: if you want to call it that. So, like, those

1207
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: are three decent players that are now not on their roster.

1208
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: But you know, you went through their their team. Still,

1209
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: I think Edwards has to go next step and and

1210
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: it's up to Finchy to make this work with these

1211
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: the twin city towers there in kat and Rudy. Fascinating

1212
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: is the word.

1213
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1214
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. I really don't know if they're

1215
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: going to be all that better.

1216
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: They maybe not, but they have got three potential All

1217
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: Stars there, you know, and and they and they won't

1218
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: be crowding each other. I don't think I think they

1219
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: can all be who they want to be because because

1220
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Edwards's he's you know, he's not going

1221
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: to say it's my team, but you know, he believes

1222
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: it's his team and he's gonna go out there. But

1223
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he also realized, Okay, we've

1224
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: got players he can defend and shoot and they're better

1225
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: than they were. So this is what they want. And

1226
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, I think it's I think they did the

1227
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: right thing.

1228
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: Okay, what's next for the Jazz with moving off of

1229
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert? Any idea what they're doing?

1230
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: Are you asking me what's going on at I've been

1231
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 4: trying to figure it out for since the Royce O'Neil

1232
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 4: trade very straight. Are they really building around Donovan Mitchell

1233
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: is the question. The guy's under contract through twenty five,

1234
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: twenty six, He's got a player option that season. He's

1235
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: only gonna be twenty six when the season starts. He's good,

1236
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: he's marketable. He won the power struggle with Rudy Gobert

1237
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 4: quite clearly. However, the Jazz are just trading away all

1238
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: of their starting lineup, Royce O'Neil for a pick. Rudy

1239
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: Gobert mostly for picks, some movable pieces like Jared Vanderbilt

1240
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: is the only guy who seems like he'll stick around

1241
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: after that trade. The team is way worse, and their

1242
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 4: starting center right now played like two hundred and fifty

1243
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: minutes last season Udoka as a bookie. So are they

1244
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 4: going to package the picks those role players for another piece?

1245
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 4: Probably I could see him going after Miles Turner. He

1246
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: seems more likely to me than DeAndre Ayton, just because

1247
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: it would probably cost a little bit less to get

1248
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 4: Miles Turner and you get, you know, a reasonable fact

1249
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: simile of what Rudy Gobert brought to the Jazz with

1250
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: a little bit more offense, a little bit more switch

1251
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: ability and probably a little bit less defense. I also

1252
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 4: don't think that having new ownership a new front office,

1253
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 4: that they're gonna want to start rebuilding right away.

1254
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: But then they did bring in a young.

1255
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: First time coach thirty four years old. This guy we'll

1256
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: coach them. That does seem generally like a tanking move,

1257
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: you know, like when the Rockets signed Steven Silas to

1258
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 4: be their coach, even though they still have James Harden.

1259
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm guessing the Jazz just run

1260
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: it back. This isn't a team that likes to tank

1261
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 4: in general, but there's new people in charge, so maybe

1262
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 4: they'd go for go for the next Rudy Gobert in

1263
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 4: Victor wen Binyama. But it feels like they've got too

1264
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: many moves to be one of the worst teams in

1265
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: the league. I don't know. My guess is that they

1266
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: do build around Mitchell and we're hearing a lot ago. Yeah,

1267
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: at least give it a go for this season. Maybe

1268
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 4: you do the same thing next year.

1269
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the draft picks tend to signal like we're

1270
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: going in the future. Therefore, why not cash in on

1271
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell as well? But it doesn't seem like that's

1272
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: what they want to do. But Mitchell's entering his sixth

1273
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: season and now he's like, oh, we were going up

1274
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: and now we have to sort of restart. So maybe,

1275
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, there' certainly been some rumblings that he's not

1276
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: thrilled with the franchise as well, going back to the

1277
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: playoffs last season. Remember, so he may be like again

1278
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: with a new ownership, saying listen, let's just trust us.

1279
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: We'll figure this out. But halfway through next season he

1280
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: might be like, Okay, we're not competing, we're not getting close,

1281
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: we're getting further. He may then look to move but

1282
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to move him prior to that, right,

1283
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't.

1284
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: You think he'll be on the raster. I mean they're basically.

1285
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Signaled by trading gobet. Okay, it is your team. Now

1286
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: give us some time to get you that extra players,

1287
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: different players start play. We've got all these assets, you know,

1288
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: and we're going to try to make it up. Because

1289
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: I agree, then they're sort of like a Lillard situation

1290
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: where yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not a tanking team. Although

1291
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: the Will Hardy coaching movie is surprising.

1292
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: Well isn't it basically the identical thing to what Danny

1293
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Ingel did when he was with Steven's a huge contract,

1294
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: super young, blew it up, you know, sort of speed

1295
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: and build through the draft.

1296
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: But he got Brown and Tatum kind of together like

1297
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: back to back drafts, whereas Mitchell, like I say, he's

1298
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: at that stage of his career where he would be

1299
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: really expecting to be getting closer rather than further away,

1300
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: and right now they're further away. But we'll see Danny

1301
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: likes to wheel and deal and make some moves here.

1302
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what the court last night there

1303
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Actually we haven't seen that old style logo on the court,

1304
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: have we? We saw last night? I'm talking some league.

1305
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: I can't deny it.

1306
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So and there was a lot of

1307
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: people there too. I mean, you think we're sick. The

1308
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: sickos are watching thunder Jazz, Summer leagues, wild wild stuff.

1309
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: So ultimately the answer is, I don't know what they're

1310
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: going to do. The jazz there sort of seems to

1311
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: be a little bit confusing. That's like, Mitchell's our guy,

1312
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: but also we're thinking about the next four or five years.

1313
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: I think it's exactly what the Blazers are trying to

1314
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: do with Damian Lillard. They traded c MCom the Jazz

1315
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: treated Rudy Gobert the second, you know, the guy who

1316
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: was in lockstep with their their key guy for a

1317
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: long time. I don't know if it's the rate move.

1318
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: They're trying to build around us soon to be thirty

1319
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: to a year old and Damian Lillard. This is different

1320
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: with a younger player with Donovan Mitchell and the Jazz.

1321
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: I was surprised when the Blazers started, you know, getting

1322
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: guys like obviously Jeremy Grant and Gary Payton and resigning

1323
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: use of Nurkic. You you went through all the teams

1324
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference the BLAZERNA, yeah, yeah, probably tier

1325
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: three of and and yeah there's a there's a Los

1326
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers team with Anthony Davis in the gym at

1327
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: four fifty am at the free throw looking good. So

1328
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: that's that's the worst impartant. Where are the jazz Is

1329
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: going to be for the next several years with Donovin

1330
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: Mitchell as their number one and who the heck is

1331
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: their number two? So I think it might be the

1332
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: right move to to blow that thing up but it

1333
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: sure feels like they're going the Damian Lillard group, but

1334
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: it could be.

1335
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm I think you don't. You don't have to like

1336
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: panic right now and trade Donovan Mitchell. You just could

1337
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: start the season with them. Maybe then you see how

1338
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: bad you are where you fall in the Western Conference,

1339
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: and then holy crap, around a trade deadline, you know

1340
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: what team is gonna be like easily talking themselves into like,

1341
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Donovan Mitchell, we could become a title contender

1342
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 2: and then maybe you get a better trade package and return.

1343
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1344
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: So that's what I would think Danny and the team there,

1345
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: we'll do, but we'll see, we'll see. Let's take one

1346
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: more break and when we come back, tasta is very fun.

1347
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: Tweet the night.

1348
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: What do you got, Lely?

1349
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to tweet of the night.

1350
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night. Wow twitt, Oh my god, it's

1351
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: been forever it has been, But the tweets have been

1352
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: flowing since we did Tweet of the night. Some breaking news.

1353
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: Number one, you can check in for your flight to Vegas.

1354
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: I gotta gotta hit that, gotta get that. It's like

1355
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: just under twenty four hours. It feels so good when

1356
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: you get to do I just flew Southwest Yeah, no

1357
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: check in.

1358
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just dance.

1359
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: You just get get on that that runway. You just

1360
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: start l and people to get to the front of

1361
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: the line and you start climbing over seats to get

1362
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: to your favorite I wonder the.

1363
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Sign much like airport right things. I mean, you can't

1364
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: have that. That's just Miami, especially when you got kids.

1365
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: Right, I worked out, Okay, they do have like these

1366
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: prior a couple priority where you yeah, you line up

1367
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: in you sort of have different zones and you can

1368
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 3: pay to get into, you know, one of the first zones.

1369
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 3: So we did. We did get into one of the

1370
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: early zones. But I was really it was just really exciting,

1371
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 3: like really exciting. Who's going to sit by the toilet,

1372
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: Who's going to sit by the lab? Not me?

1373
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: So are people yelling at other people like sit down,

1374
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: just grab a seat, let's go, Like that's.

1375
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: What yeah, I would get. I mean the flight attendants

1376
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: do that, you know, they keep it moving. But they're

1377
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: pretty fun. Those flight attendants on Southwest. I don't know

1378
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: if they have the reputation.

1379
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying people respect the flight attendance because

1380
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: I saw another dude freaking out a little bit, and

1381
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, come on, like, we're all

1382
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: we're all on this plane that you don't get any faster.

1383
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: Where do you sit on the plane?

1384
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: Just relax.

1385
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: She's trying to do her best. You know, things are

1386
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: Have you ever done this what he's done well in Europe?

1387
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, some of those like easy Jet and

1388
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: stuff like that, where it's like just sit wherever you want. So, yeah,

1389
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: it's a bit chaotic. You know, it's not quite as

1390
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: crazy as jumping off the cliff, but it feels a

1391
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: bit that same adrenaline rush.

1392
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: Adrenaline totally. I totally agree with you.

1393
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: Can you slide into somebody else's seat mid flight?

1394
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 4: Musical?

1395
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: Wow? I don't know.

1396
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: So I got my eye on an aisle or something

1397
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 5: that I'm in the metal and I just shove over, you.

1398
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: Know, like, yeah, why not rules?

1399
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Yeah, I totally agree, it's it's exciting.

1400
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: It's really exciting.

1401
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: You sit on the shutter, that's interesting. They're usually over

1402
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: book on.

1403
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice. Actually laboratory at the front end

1404
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: the back. That's nice. Living. I had one in the

1405
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: middle yesterday. What right, in the middle. Don't like the

1406
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: eye like that?

1407
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it wasn't the place wasn't that.

1408
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: They just have the toilet right in the middle. At

1409
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: least you have some room to put your knees somewhere.

1410
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: That would be crazy. Uh. Yeah, we did have a

1411
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: bit of a rough landing and the flight attendant got

1412
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: on the mic with a whoa Nelly. That was great. Yeah. Anyways,

1413
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: the other piece of breaking news, Oh yeah, the tweet

1414
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: the Kirbys have signed a twenty twelve Toyota Highlander Hybrid

1415
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: wow to a long term wow wow news tweet.

1416
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a nice white car here.

1417
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: In a place place.

1418
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: The color is a blizzard pearl.

1419
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I told Laura I wouldn't call it gizzard pearl.

1420
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: So if I see green was the last car? I mean,

1421
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: this is you know, it's like a four year college player.

1422
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: It's already you know, got some miles on the clock.

1423
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you I know I'm thinking of.

1424
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: I need an NBA related name. So somebody who changed

1425
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: teams midway through their career and still had a lot

1426
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: of juice left is what I'm looking for. Because the

1427
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: name I'm leaning towards right now is high High Washington

1428
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: because it's a Highlander hybrid suokie. It's a rookie that

1429
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 4: doesn't that doesn't really flow too well.

1430
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Like PJ.

1431
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: Brown, it was a solid vet.

1432
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: He won a championship too, so you know, I think

1433
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: he finished like eighth in MVP voting or something one year.

1434
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: Remember he had that crazy run. So that's fine, that's good.

1435
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so feel free to slide into the YouTube comments

1436
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: or tweet at me on Twitter. Let me know a

1437
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 4: better name for this than PJ. Brown.

1438
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well, congratulations.

1439
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: If there was a way, if there was a because

1440
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: it's a highybrid, it's a hybrid, there was like a

1441
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: combo guard and what.

1442
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: A bet on drag widala you know, like I like it?

1443
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1444
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: Maybe do Okay, I like it.

1445
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 4: We got andre that's not bad, not bad at all?

1446
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Get okay? Have you so you know you just got

1447
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: this right like a day or two ago last night?

1448
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1449
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow? Yeah?

1450
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: Where I mean sixty sixteen hours we've had it so yeah,

1451
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: still fresh, still got you know, five and a half

1452
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: days to take it back.

1453
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say no buyers remorse, yeah or anything

1454
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: like that.

1455
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of buyers remorse. But I figured out

1456
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 4: how to change the clock now, so I'm feeling better.

1457
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty confident once I go back out there

1458
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 4: that I'm gonna be able to set the time.

1459
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: About this car.

1460
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: Yet, as we were going to pick it up yesterday,

1461
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 4: I was googling do you have to plug in a

1462
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 4: high land or hybrid apparently not degenerated breaking?

1463
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's uh.

1464
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: There's not more data move than to be like, I

1465
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: gotta set the that's the top priority.

1466
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 4: How could I possibly know what time it is at

1467
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: the clock of the car.

1468
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Isn't correct, that's big news, that's great. Like, and I

1469
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: like how you ultimately went with the jersey where it

1470
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: was hanging hat on the mirror.

1471
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: Do you think I watched it? Somebody said you should

1472
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: have put the hat on top of the car, I

1473
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: mean head, Yeah.

1474
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: Like I get excited anytime I see an automobile that

1475
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: has like a built in hat on the car. You

1476
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: like a built it hat, of course, yeah, but this

1477
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: is a tiny hat, so you don't have a giant No.

1478
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: I think I think this was fine. I don't think

1479
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: you would have been able to see it well if

1480
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: you had put it on the top of the time.

1481
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: I agree with that. And plus the roof of the

1482
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: car is so big the hat fits appropriately on the side.

1483
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, it's like a head.

1484
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have that jersey hanging in the house. Yesterday

1485
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: after I took this picture, and more was like, why

1486
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: did you have your taco jersey out? I was like

1487
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: to break the news on Twitter.

1488
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Of course she's like, oh, yeah, you told me about you.

1489
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 2: Never ended up taking a photo of you shaking hands

1490
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Speaker 2: with the mirror.

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: Though, Okay, you want the behind the scenes on this.

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01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: Originally I wanted to hang the jersey from the upright

1493
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 4: wind child wipers. Oh yeah, that would have been my

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: go to, but it's a little too wide, a little

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: too wide for the jersey. Couldn't make it happen. So

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: I had to go to the mirror. And once I

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 4: put it on the mirror, I was like, it's too much.

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't seemed like a hand yea yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: It became ahead, it became shoulders. Maybe the mirror is

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: the head of a car. I don't know, but yeah,

1501
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 4: didn't go according to plan, but that's how high.

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: I wanted it.

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01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: All right, awesome, Uh, well, well we'll check back in

1504
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: in a week after.

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01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: Actually I still have it.

1506
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be going back for we know. Okay,

1507
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: let's call it there. We gotta check into our flight

1508
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: to Vegas. Emailing your MBA questions to No Dunks at

1509
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1510
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: TikTok at No Dunk Tink. Get yourself an athletic subscription.

1511
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Go to Athletic dot com slash No Dunks get one

1512
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: of those. And uh, we're going out for drinks. Aubrey,

1513
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: what are we doing? We're going out for drinks? Was

1514
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: it Aubrey in the vaccine?

1515
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 3: It was Aubrey.

1516
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aubrey had never said we're going out deep.

1517
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: Well, Aubrey was a baby. I had a lot of pressure.

1518
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, We're going out for drinks this Saturday night. Yeah

1519
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: I can say this Saturday night in Las Vegas. Come

1520
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: hang with No Dunks at a place called Starboard Tech,

1521
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: and we're eaming for around a seven pm arrival. Low

1522
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: key gonna be a blast. Might even have a few

1523
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: No Dunk's special guests popping by. I'm gonna say, wow,

1524
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: what's going on? So yeah, seven o'clock Starboard Tack in Vegas.

1525
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: Because we are headed there for a little summer league action.

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: We'll have a podcast from summer. We're not doing a

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: live show, but we'll hit you with a pod at

1528
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: some point. And I think we got tickets to Circle.

1529
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: Oh awesome, Yeah, it's great.

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: Which ones?

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01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen Michael Jackson?

1532
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh? I think that's why we're going.

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: It's worth today and again it's great, down, absolutely great love.

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01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Beatles one too?

1535
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: No? I haven't.

1536
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: I haven't seen I had an option.

1537
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: Oh well, can we try?

1538
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: No, I want to see the Michael Jackson one mine

1539
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: Toyota Highlight.

1540
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was an option. It's worth it

1542
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: anyway seeing m J. It's great.

1543
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: Okay, everybody check.

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01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm good.

1545
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's done already. No, it's not men sometimes you're

1546
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: usually leaving by now.

1547
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1548
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't think I lock it at j dtre anyway.

1549
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 2: That's a great neighborhood.

1550
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: That's a great thing about electric I can't really go

1551
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: too far when you steal it.

1552
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, no podcast for tomorrow for sure, because

1553
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: we'll be traveling to Vegas. You'll probably hear from us

1554
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 2: there on Saturday. But anyway, subscribe on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,

1555
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: and then you'll know when we're up. All right, Clipper bros.

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: You heard it here first.

1557
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember see you at the Tack.

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: I think that's what they call it, along with some

1560
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: no Dunks guests slash Hall of Famers slash alumni slash.

1561
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: Maybe they're making their return. Who knows, maybe there's going

1562
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: to be a big announcement there.

1563
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: I don even know if they're coming. We'll find praise

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: the eight People