1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: The interesting thing that we've seen on the ground here 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: is the Russians seemed to have come to the conclusion 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: that the best thing for them to do is be 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: as silent as possible and let President Trump do most 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: of the talking. And the message that they're obviously trying 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: to send to audiences here in Russia, but of course 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: also internationally into the US, is that Vladimir Putin is 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: going into this meeting a winner. He's going into this 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: meeting with momentum on the battlefield and certainly wanting to 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: push through his own agenda as far as this meeting 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: is concerned. And the Russians have said that they haven't 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: changed their stance on Ukraine, which means they don't want 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: an immediate ceasefire. 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: That's more interesting analysis than I was expecting based on 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: the description on my sheet of paper. I thought it 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: was just going to be kind of Trump bashing Putin smart, 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Trump's dumb. But Putin has been not saying much about this, 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 3: whereas Trump's talking every single day. Is that any advantage 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: in a negotiation standpoint where you don't really have any 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: idea what Putin's gonna walk in and say, you have 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: a pretty good idea what Trump's gonna walk in and say. 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. It's funny. I was gonna 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: take almost an opposite angle in that several of Putin's 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: notable mouthpieces are making claims and posturing and trying to 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: pre spin it, preset the question and the parameters. 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: So Trump, first of all, I'd like to know if 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Trump is sitting down with anybody and discussing different scenarios 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: and hypotheticals. I'm guessing he's not based on his track record, 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: and he's just he's just gonna go with his gut 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: like he does. In his defense, he sat down for 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: a lot of big deals in his life, a lot, 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: so he's got more experience than the average person. But 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm thinking I was thinking about one time Joe and 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: I got called to this meeting with some real radio 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: heavyweights and it got set up and we got there 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: and they looked at us and they were basically like, 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: so what are you here for? And we thought it 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: was like the other way around, Like they called us 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: in because they had something to say. 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: To us, and we weren't prepared for that. 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: And I just you know, Trump needs to be ready 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: for a scenario like that, where you know, putin. 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: So what do you got to offer me? Right? I 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: think that's absolutely true. I mean, that's one possible tack 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: he takes. Here's an interesting bit of information. This is 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: a senior Russian lawmaker. He said, though the Ukrainian and 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: this paraphrasing end quoting, but he said, though the Ukrainian 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: question has been declared to be the main item of 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the agenda. Quote, much more important global issues would be 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: raised in Alaska, including ambitious plans for economic and infrastructure 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: cooperation in the Arctic. And that is why. And there 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: are a couple other quotes that clearly indicate that the 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Russian brain trust is thinking, Look, we make Ukraine a 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: part of something much much bigger and give them what 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: they want on a few other fronts that don't matter 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: nearly as much to us. But Trump will see it 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: as a payday, and then we get to expand into 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe. That could be what they actually want. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Also has the added advantage of if it's a complex, 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: multiple items agenda. 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: You get to stall even longer. 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Trump's not gonna have an answer for that 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: off the top of his head. 67 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: So you could take the can. 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Down easily for geez, thirty days or six months if 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: you're talking about you know, Antartica and all kinds of 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: different things. And then you know, Putin gets to continue 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: to prosecute the war without the sanctions on the that 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: that Trump was promising and all that sort of stuff. 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: So all of that is one of the reasons the 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: reason Ukraine and the Europeans are probably talking to Trump 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: right now as we speak and saying, look, this is 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: about Ukraine. Don't let Putin, you know, tempt you into 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: some sort of arctic you know, navigation and mineral rights discussion, 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: because that's what he's going to do. It's about Ukraine. Well, 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: And the other thing they're trying to say is and 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: keep in mind, if you sign the treaty first, or 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: as if he signs the treaty first, while you're signing, 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: he'll be violating the treaty. So just remember that about 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. That's a good point. What do you what's 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: your what's your guts? Say comes out of this this 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: meeting Friday. 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: Wow, my my, I don't know, but I would say 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: my feeling that something positive from my perspective comes out 88 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: of it is pretty low. 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: I see a semi vague We have reached the framework 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: for discussions that could definitely lead to peace, which would 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: be a horrible development. 92 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: I was just reading in the Wall Street Journal about 93 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 3: the gains that Russia has made in the last couple 94 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: of days. They penetrated some of the defenses and have 95 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: gotten quite a ways in and might be able to 96 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: use that leverage to grab a pretty decent sized chunk 97 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: of land, like just in the next couple of days. 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: If it ends up being we've come up with a 99 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: framework for blah blah blah. So the sanctions are on 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: hold until January first to work out the details. That's 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: a one hundred percent of win for Putin. Yeah, and 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: I bet you a hundred roubles that's essentially what comes 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: out of this. And if I'm wrong, I'll gladly say so. 104 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: But that's it. Sure feels that way to me. I 105 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe Trump comes out and says, no, that's it. 106 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I know a bulllesser when I see one, and although 107 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Putin is the best bullsser perhaps on the face of 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the earth, he is the tiger Woods of manipulation. 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: Now Marco Rubio, who oddly has is the Secretary of 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: State and has been sidelined and all this sort of stuff. 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: Usually the Secretary of state's like the point person on 112 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: these things. Yeah, he'd be having a I mean, he'd 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: be the press conference everybody's asking questions to every single day. 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: But he's not. Trump picked his own. 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: Negotiator, dude who's a real estate developer, a witcough guy, 116 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: or Trump himself so far does not have a great 117 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: track record, although he has been sent to, you know, 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: solve unsolvable problems. True, nobody would have a great track 119 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: record going into a talk to Hamas or Putin probably, 120 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: But Marco Rubio said something along the lines yesterday that, well, 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: the first thing is a ceasefire. The first thing we 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: say is there's got to be a ceasefire. If Trump 123 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 3: can get that, say, look, I'm not discussing anything until 124 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: there's a ceasefire. I don't want to hear about a 125 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: missile going into Kiev and twenty more people dying in 126 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: an apartment. If he makes that his lead I'd be 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: okay with that. If we do all this kick the 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: can down the road negotiations during a cease fire, that'd 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: be a completely different situation. 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, an enforceable cease fire. And that's where the problem is. 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I could see, speaking of Putin and his nature, he 132 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: would agree to that declared total sees fire. And then 133 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: when there's some fighting, sporadic fighting continuing in the critical 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Fayotex region of blankety blank. Yeah, either yeah, they fired 135 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: on us first, or you know what, we're reaching out 136 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: to the commander right now. The communication is not great 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: right now with all the jamming that's going on stuff, 138 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: But don't worry, we'll take care of that. And while 139 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: he's on the phone, another attack takes place and they 140 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: grab a couple of square miles of a you know, 141 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: a key river crossing or something. 142 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: It's possible that Trump has actually met his limit. I mean, 143 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: he's said some pretty strong things in the last couple 144 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: of weeks about Putin. He's just a liar. He just 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: he says one thing, does another. I can't trust him. 146 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: So if Putin, if Trump has actually come to the 147 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: conclusion that he can't trust this guy at all, and 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: he goes in there and says, okay, step one, ceasefire. 149 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: He's got to be a ceasefire. If there's one missile, 150 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: there's one dead. Ukrainian sanctions immediately, and we send Ukraine 151 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, you know, armaments. If he does something 152 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: like that, there's a chance. 153 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, that's what it would take. If 154 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: he meets Putin and gets. 155 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: Smoothed by the power of smiling Putin and likes a 156 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: picture of them shaking hands and smiling and falls for 157 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, God's gonna be damn disappointing. I'll say, 158 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: I think Trump's got a chance to like make his 159 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: legacy over this, change his legacy for all time if. 160 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: He doesn't get punked by Putin. Is their leverage sufficient 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: to knock a guy off of his goal of re 162 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: establishing the Russian Empire? Oh, I can't re establish empire 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: because they're you know, hammer in our oil customers. So 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: oh well, we'll just keep the empire we've got. I 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: just I think put maybe too much of a megalomaniac. 166 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: How about well, I'll see, how about if Europe's talking 167 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: about one hundred thousand troops. Yeah, now, that's that's a threat. Wow. 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Uh so speaking of disappointments, Uh, this is a bummer. 169 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what. Yeah, we got a minute. At the 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: beginning of the conflict, I remember learning a fair amount 171 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that the Ukrainians have been training with 172 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the United States in Britain for a long time and 173 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: had adapted adopted really American style command and control structures 174 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: in that and and this ought to be the envy 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: of the world. Our military empowers our junior officers with 176 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: decision making, you know, discretion in the field. And so 177 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: whereas you have the Chinese military, for instance, where you 178 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: don't dare to do anything unless you go way up 179 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: the chain of command, because if they perceive that you've 180 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: done the wrong thing, they'll just they'll put the goat's 181 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: horns on you and sacrifice you. That's the way it 182 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: operates in totalitarian regimes. Whereas our guys down to the 183 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: squad level practically can say, Nope, that objective can't be made. 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: Let's find a different way to do it anyway. The 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: headline is Ukraine's once nimble army is mired in Soviet 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: decision making, and evidently the guys on the front line 187 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: are getting more and more unhappy about the increasingly centralized 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: command culture that often punishes initiative and wastes men's lives. 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's horrifying. And whose idea was that? I just 190 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: think it evolved. It's just with bureaucracies. 191 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: That's the way all every bureaucracy I've ever been a 192 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: part of in my life. 193 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: Turned distortionally. Well, yeah, that's true, that's one hundred percent true. 194 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: And then then drench that with the unholy sauce of 195 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: trying to you know, shake off the effects of being 196 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: a Soviet republic for eight generations or whatever. True, it's 197 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: in their genes, well right, exactly. So they were being 198 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: dragged kicking and well actually fairly enthusiastically, but you know, 199 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: psychologically kicking and screaming into a much more Western style 200 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: of command and control. And evidently some of that is 201 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: is eroding. Evidently the bitter joke among the Ukrainian service 202 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: people is where is it? It's essentially it's the big 203 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: Soviet army versus the little Soviet army. Now, wow, that's 204 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: they're bigger. We need to be better and we're not 205 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: doing it anymore. That is the last kind of news 206 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: we needed. Yeah, that's not good. No, it's not coming up. 207 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: Chuck Todd, if you'll remember him from Meet the Press, 208 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: he explains Washington, America and America to Washington. Chuck Todd 209 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: warns America's headed toward a cold civil war based on 210 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: that stuff you brought yesterday about becoming even more red 211 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: and blue states and divided. 212 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what a cold civil war looks like 213 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Antietam in Parks. I don't know what that is. But 214 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: that and other stuff on the way stay here. 215 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: There's a recently called to a California Chuck e Cheese 216 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: after an adult woman got her arms stuck in one. 217 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Of the arcade games. 218 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: Even more embarrassing, she was there without kids. She just 219 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: likes their pizza. The firefighter who successfully got her out 220 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 4: got to choose any item from the bottom three shelves. 221 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Were you a mom actually trying to steal one of 222 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: the worthless little pieces of crap. 223 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Out of one of those machines. That's embarrassing. That's an 224 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: odd story. Sometime tells me there's like a novel length 225 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: explanation to that. 226 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 3: Although some of those have like a PlayStation in them 227 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: or whatever, they always have some incredible prize in there 228 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: that there is not even a one in a gazillion 229 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: chance you could ever grasp or win. But it's in there, 230 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: so she might have been reaching in there for something 231 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, she was there. She was there without. 232 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Kids, though, got her arms stuck. She'd seen it while 233 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: our kid was operating the claw and thought, I'm gonna 234 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: go get me that thing. 235 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: Never mind that stinking claw. The fix is in, So 236 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: we got to get to this story. Katy brought us 237 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: the headline. I don't know what publication you had the 238 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: headline from. I'm reading from the New York Post, Katie Frankenstein. 239 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 3: Rabbits with horrifying spikes growing from their heads are invading 240 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: the US. 241 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: Experts warn, oh no, no, no, poor little guys, did 242 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: you read this at all? Yeah, it's horrifying. You don't 243 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: think the headline's good. The unbelievable headline headline, the first 244 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: line of the story then ruined it for me. Oh yeah, 245 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: there's a virus spreading through the cottontail rabbit community. That's 246 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: not doing any favors to the little rabbits. 247 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: But if you saw one of these coming at you, 248 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: you'd think, what the hell is this? 249 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh, you'd fill your pants. Yeah. 250 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's horrifying, though some people should be aware if 251 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: you see a well an fr Frankenstein rabbit come in 252 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: your way, it's it's some sort of virus that's got 253 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: It's not from another planet or nuclear answer or something, 254 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: or a demon sent from hell to eat our souls 255 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: clear right out of our chests now, or he's. 256 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Not lost your mind. 257 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: I love that the local authorities had to let people 258 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: know please don't try to catch them, because I see 259 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: a diseased rabbit and I'm like, come here, little fella. 260 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sort of animal. Oh aren't you cute with 261 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: your disease. I'm to take you home. It's a viral 262 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: illness related to the human papilloma virus, which is nasty. Anyway, 263 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: did somebody sex up a rabbit? Is that how it happened? Sure, yeah, 264 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: that's what happened, all right. In other sick rabbit news, Wait, 265 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: we have no more, thank god? 266 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 267 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Uh, pictures aren't pleasing now. 268 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: So did we get any emails or texts about our 269 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: conversation yesterday about this trend toward feeding your deceased pets 270 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: to animals at the zoo? 271 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I wonder if people waited in on it. 272 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: It's the idea that, like, your dog is old and 273 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: you think it's part of the circle of life for 274 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: it to be devoured by a lion. 275 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: I took a personal survey at my gym and all 276 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: six of the ladies were horrified. 277 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: And yes, your doggar cat is euthanized first. 278 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: You're not. 279 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: You handed over to them alive and they euthanize it. 280 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Or we're so consumed by the lion. 281 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: Or so they or so they tell you, they run 282 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: out of their euthanizing juice and they just let your 283 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: pet run around in the lion cage. 284 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: And how dare you impu in America's zoologists, I'm sure 285 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: it's all on the up and up. Actually in Denmark, 286 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I think about it. 287 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: But what's interesting is the number of people that seem 288 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: to be horrified by it, even if your pet is 289 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: euthanized first, and like, it doesn't bother me. 290 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: But what if you know this is sad, This is 291 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: as sad as the rabbit. My question was, you're not 292 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: in charge of the content for this segment or any 293 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: other this is too sad. 294 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: We did that yesterday and I just wonder how people react. 295 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: If more people were like us, like, it doesn't matter 296 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: on once they're gone, they've lived a good life, circle life, 297 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: or if more people were just horrified. 298 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: At the idea. Yeah, maybe it's because I have an 299 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: old dog that I'm having trouble with this. But so 300 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: if if you were to say goodbye to your pet 301 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: in the manner you see fit, whatever that might be, 302 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: and then the helpful folks at the vet brought it 303 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: to the zoo to be eaten by a lion, that 304 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I think that yes or no, that's the dividing line. 305 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: It all is exactly as you would have it. And 306 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: then when when your pet's soul is in pet Hevan, 307 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: it's feeding time with the zoo, I think most people 308 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: would say, no, thank you, I can't do that. 309 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 5: I just got my pet cremated and she's in a 310 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: beautiful erna and I'm not giving her to the zoo. 311 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it would haunt my dreams to donate 312 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: my dog to your zoo. But it might be armstrong 313 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: and getty, treasonous and illegal. 314 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 6: That's how a Democratic whistleblower characterized Adam Schiff, accusing him 315 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 6: of green lighting the leak of classified information. To undercut 316 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 6: President Trump during the twenty seventeen Russia Gate investigation. 317 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 7: The President has already said he wants to see Adam 318 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 7: Shiff held accountable for the countless lies he told the 319 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 7: American people in relation to the Russia Gate scandal. 320 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 3: So I've been reading up on this. This is a 321 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: damn interesting story. I'm incredibly biased on this. Like, while 322 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe Barack Obama did the 323 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: things he's being accused of, or Brennan Clapper or whatever, 324 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: Brennan's and less confidence, but I absolutely freaking believe Adam 325 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: Shiff is guilty of everything he's ever been accused of. 326 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: I think he's the worst person in government. I can't 327 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: believe he's a US senator, and I hope this is 328 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: he pays some penalty for all this. 329 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I think it's practically self evident he leaked classified info, 330 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: but or on that to come, God, what a scumbag. 331 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: Anyway, let's hear the rest of this report and then 332 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 3: we'll get into some more of the details. 333 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: The whistleblower was a veteran House Intelligence Committee staffer. The 334 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 6: FBI summary obtained by Fox says Schiff told Aids he 335 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 6: would quote leak classified information which was derogatory to the 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: president in hopes of scoring an indictment for the commander 337 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 6: in chief. 338 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: It's beyond unseemly. 339 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: This was just an egregious breach and really a reprehensible 340 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 6: act on the part of Adam. Schiff's office calls this 341 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 6: baseless smears, saying the whistleblower was quote not rely, not 342 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: credible and was fired. 343 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: Nothing as a Democrat staffer worth reiterating there, Yeah, if 344 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 3: you didn't catch a Democrat staffer for twelve years on 345 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: the Intelligence Committee. So and a little more on this, 346 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: and then we'll fill in more of the details. Schiff, 347 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: who led. 348 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: The democrats first impeachment of President Trump, now faces an 349 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 6: unrelated criminal investigation for alleged mortgage fraud. 350 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: Now it looks like Adam Schiff really did a bad thing. 351 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: They have them. 352 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 6: Democrats say the GOP is trying to shift the narrative. 353 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: Look, this is a nonsense. 354 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: This is an effort to change the subject away from 355 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: the Epstein files. 356 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: The problem with that is sometimes when these stories come 357 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: out of an administration, it is to change the subject. 358 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: But everybody from Nixon to Clinton to Trump and Obama 359 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 3: and everybody whenever the heat is on, they claim over 360 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: something they actually they claim this was just a distraction 361 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: from the American people. Well, we did not bug any 362 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: for it. They're just trying to you know. 363 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: So that's the oldest dodge in the world. So yeah, 364 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: and even you know, great example of it, just to 365 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: flip the partisan script is when Clinton went after al 366 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Qaeda way back in the day and Republicans talked about 367 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Monica missiles for ah, excuse me a couple of weeks. 368 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: You have allergies an explosive sneeze there, covid. 369 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, Yeah, I have allergy whooping cough. 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. So. 371 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: During an FBI interview in June of twenty twenty three, 372 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: the whistleblower, this dozen year Democrat, recalled being part of 373 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: an all staff meeting as you just heard, in which 374 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: Shiff said the Democrats the quote is stated the group 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: would leak classified information which was derogatory to the President 376 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: of the United States, and it would be used to 377 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: in President Trump. Schiff believed, for one thing, he had 378 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: told other people he thought when Hillary won, When Hillary won, 379 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: he was sure Hillary's going to win, Like everybody in 380 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: the world was sure Hillary is going to win. He 381 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: believed he was going to become the CIA director for 382 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: one thing. Schiff believed that, so he was very excited 383 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: about that. When Hillary lost, he was quite upset about it, 384 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 3: but he was convinced. Again this is in quotes, Schiff 385 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: believed Russia hijacked the election and the United States was 386 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: in the middle of a constitutional crisis. So he is 387 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: driven by the fact that he believed Russia had actually 388 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: changed the result somehow of a US election, and it 389 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: was a constitutional crisis. Obviously, if you believe that, you'd 390 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 3: be pretty damn concerned. Classified information began leaking to the media. 391 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: The Democratic Minority leadership of the Intelligence Committee was aware 392 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: of the leaks, but was under the impression that leaking 393 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: the information was one way to topple the administration and 394 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: fix the constitutional crisis. It's the same thing as comy 395 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 3: and so many of these people or journalists, same as 396 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 3: the journalists ignoring Biden having dementia. They believe Trump is 397 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: such a threat to American democracy, let's blow up all 398 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: norms and violate laws and ethics of every kind to 399 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: make sure the new Hitler doesn't end up being president. 400 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: That's how they said, good night, exactly, it nightmarish. Is 401 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: it to have the picture of Adam Schiff having the 402 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: levers of the CIA at his disposal? Wow, he is 403 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: not a long ball hitter. The whole short hitter issue. Yeah, 404 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm reading a book right now, recommended by a good 405 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: friend by Michael Waller. It's big intel how the CIA 406 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: and FBI went from Cold War heroes to deep state villains. 407 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: And it is so far, really compelling, and it illustrates 408 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: something that I think, if you're you're reasonably smart, you 409 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: can figure out yourself. But if you have the level 410 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: of secrecy that the intelligence services have, people's own views 411 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: of what the priorities of the country ought to be, 412 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: no matter what the guy in the Oval office says, 413 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: or you know, no matter what Congress just passed as 414 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: a law, runs wild, gets off track. Like usually the 415 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: idea that the CIA went rogue momentarily, I mean, no, no, 416 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: the CIA going rogue is like the whole question. It's 417 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: the challenge of having that sort of agency. They woke 418 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: up rogue, Yeah, exactly, they went to work rogue, they 419 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: went home to their wives, rogue. It's keeping intelligence services 420 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: not rogue. That is the never ending challenge of democracies 421 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: anyway back to you. 422 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: The unidentified male source who worked as a Democratic staffer 423 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: on the House Intelligence Committee for twelve years after more 424 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: than two decades in the intelligence community. 425 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: No, no, no, discredited, disgruntled former employee. He was fired 426 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: for cause, just to real jackass nobody liked him. 427 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: Told FBI agents in December twenty seventeen that the mood 428 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 3: among the panel became indescribable after Trump's upset win the 429 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: year before, and ranking membership was particularly upset as he 430 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: had believed he would have been appointed as the director 431 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: of the CIA if Hillary had won, jumping down this 432 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: so when Schiff floated the idea of leaking that information 433 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: out because we have a constitutional crisis. 434 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Going on right now and we need to topple this. 435 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: President, the whistleblower said he objected to Shift's idea, only 436 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: to be told by other participants that they would not 437 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: be caught leaking classified information, so don't worry about it. 438 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: Sometime later, the whistleblower said he was approached again about 439 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: leaking against Trump and responded that he believed this activity 440 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: to be unethical and treasonous. The whistleblower reached out to 441 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: the FBI, and was even invented to attend a mock 442 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: grand jury hearing. So they were going through the motions 443 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: of having him testify and see what that would look like, 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: only to be later told that the Justice Department would 445 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: not investigate further. 446 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Why did that happen? 447 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: Because investigators believed Schiff was protected by the Constitution's speech 448 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: or debate Clause, which bars the apprehension of legislators for 449 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: their professional activities except in the event of felony, treason, 450 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: or breach of peace. And apparently the Justice Department, and 451 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: again this is in twenty well, so he first went 452 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, I guess this would have been in 453 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. So I was about to say it 454 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: was a Trump Justice Department, but as a Biden Justice Department. 455 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: So the Biden Justice Department. 456 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: Whether you believe this is you know, on the oven 457 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: up or not, didn't think that Schiff had run a 458 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: foul of the felony treason and breach of priests, breach 459 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: of peace to the extent that they could get a 460 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: win there. The whistle Bowler claimed during his June twenty 461 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: twenty three interview that he did not believe ship's actions 462 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: were covered by the speech or debate clause, but apparently 463 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: the Justice Department did. But it's the Biden Justice Department, So. 464 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, this is something. 465 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: So do you think this will go far enough that 466 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: we actually see this guy testify before a panel or Congress? 467 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: Like it'll go that far? You'd need somebody else to 468 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: come forward. 469 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: So if he actually said not really not to testify 470 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: in front of a committee, I mean that you don't 471 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: need much pretext at all for that. 472 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not to have the committee. For 473 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: people to believe it, you'd need more than one person. 474 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: And I mean if he was saying to this whole committee, 475 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: I think this is treasonous, which has just got a 476 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: little bit too much. I'm the good guy standing up 477 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: against evil is just a tad. 478 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: It might be one hundred percent true, but I don't know. 479 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: You know, the whole on the hero of the story 480 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 3: thing always considers me a little bit. 481 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: There'd be a lot of people on the committee. I mean, 482 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: you got the people in the committee. 483 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: He's a staffer, so if he was there for the conversation, 484 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: how many people were involved fifty? I mean, if you 485 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: got all the committee members and staffers, Okay, minimum twenty 486 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: people and nobody else has come forward. Well and well, 487 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: how specific have we gotten in describing the situation where 488 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 3: Schiff was advocating this. I mean, because if it was 489 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: while Republicans were in the room, you'd think one of 490 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: that would said something. By now, that's a good point, 491 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: that's a decent point. Ranking membership was particularly upset that 492 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: the mood on the panel was indescribable. Indescribable, But the 493 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: House Intelligence Committee doesn't include just Democrats obviously. 494 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Right now, there may be some contexts. Were just the 495 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee get together, right, maybe 496 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: the nefarious plot was hatched then, I don't know, it's 497 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: just a question. Almost has to be the case for 498 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: this story to work. So just to give you a 499 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: little overarching feeling of the fast and looseness, I was 500 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: trying to describe this book I'm reading, and I've done 501 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: some preliminary looking into how credible it is. It seems 502 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: to be. The more I read, the more I think, 503 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: all right, I got to make sure this is credible 504 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: because it's really quite extraordinary. It's descriptions of how Intel 505 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: actually works and when it goes wrong, how it you know, 506 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: doesn't serve the people of the United States. But one 507 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: of the early accounts in the book is the fellow 508 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: who wrote it, who is a young like arch conservative 509 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: activist type and also a college journalist in DC, and 510 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: how he got on the radar of various people who 511 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: are high up in the intel community because he was 512 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: very enthusiastic about going to Central America in particular, which 513 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: is where there was a real divide between Reagan and 514 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: his people, including William Casey, the director of the CIA, 515 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: what they thought ought to be happening, and Congress, because 516 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Congress at the time was heavily Democrat. I don't remember 517 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: the specifics of it, but the Democrats were in general 518 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: very supportive of Daniel Ortegan. The Sandinistas. Look it up someday. 519 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating story. And he turned out to be 520 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: a communist dictator, I'll be damned anyway, not a brave 521 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, a communist liberator of his people. Anyway. So 522 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: this guy who had come to the attention of these 523 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: heavyweights in ways I could describe, but we don't really 524 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: have time. He was told to go to church and 525 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: sit in a back pew and stay there till he 526 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: was contacted, and he sat there and at the very 527 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: very very very end, when the organ was playing, the 528 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: director of the CIA himself, William Casey Wow, came up 529 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: to him and they had a very brief conversation, and 530 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: then an assistant in Casey gave him a name, said 531 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: remember this name. Do not forget this name. It's all 532 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: you need to know. And then they left. And as 533 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: the guy explains in the book, because Congress had either 534 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: not authorized or specifically forbidden certain acts or certain you know, 535 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: avenues for the intelligence agencies to do their work, Casey 536 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: and supporters of Reagan's policies were going entirely outside the 537 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: intelligence apparatus and finding private citizens who were similarly dedicated 538 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: to do intelligence work for them. And because it was 539 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: in church, nobody could compel Casey to testify Wow for 540 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: various legal countries too reasons. And so he went to 541 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: church on a practically daily basis and had brief conversations 542 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: with people Wow and all these people. 543 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: The problem is all these people think they are they 544 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: are patriots, and they they can be trusted with working outside. 545 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Of the constitution. 546 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: Like James Coley, he believes, you know, I'm a good 547 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: guy who cares about America, so it's okay. If I 548 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: go around the rules. It doesn't always work out. 549 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: And I wholeheartedly agreed at the time and agree now 550 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: with Reagan and his people what they were thinking about 551 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Central America. But it's a great illustration of No. No, 552 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: I actually believe this stuff and it is really really important. 553 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to go outside the bounds. Insurrection, 554 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: that's right. Sometimes it incites erections and insurrections. I just 555 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: hope at the end of the day, Adam Schiff ends 556 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: up in leg irons in Likechapolic square men where I 557 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: can throw very fruit products at his head. That's what 558 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: I hope happens. 559 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: More on the way, Times is. 560 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 7: Now confirming it was a meteorite that smashed through the 561 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 7: roof of a home in mcdona, Georgia, and that it 562 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 7: was twenty million years older than Earth itself. Nicknamed the 563 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 7: McDonough meteorite, it was seen streaking across the sky in June. 564 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 7: Researchers say it's more than four and a half billion 565 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 7: years old, twenty million. 566 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: Years older than Earth itself. They can't measure that. I 567 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's possible. 568 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so we kind of round how 569 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: old the Earth is, not within I mean, it's like 570 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: roughly four and a half billion years old, but it's 571 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: kind of rounding. You can't round within twenty million on 572 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: that anyway. Won't get distracted by that. 573 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: Do you know? 574 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: There are endless meteorites on the Moon. I just learned 575 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: this the other day. That's a problem for like a 576 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: moon base or anything like that because there's no atmosphere. 577 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: You're constantly being pelted by little rocks coming at you 578 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: at the speed of bullets, right. 579 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: With no atmosphere to burn them up. 580 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: You know, the Earth has them coming too, but our 581 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: atmosphere burns all the little ones up. 582 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Fascinating stuff, isn't it. So I guess there's a 583 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: big debate between astronomers, not astronomers, just space scientists, rocket 584 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: scientists literally over whether we ought to have a moon 585 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: base on the Moon or an orbiting base that that 586 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: has essentially the same function. 587 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: And I wasn't aware of this, but that's yeah, that's interesting. 588 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: And maybe the whole moon base on the Moon that 589 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: we've all been picturing is not feasible, right, So a 590 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: couple of things we're going to get into next hour, 591 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: and I'm really looking forward to although they're both a 592 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: little troubling. UH some stories about mental health, one that 593 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: has to do with smartphones and and one having to 594 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: do with Uh. There's a rash of people becoming therapists 595 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: now as other fields disappear, partly because of AI. 596 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Wow, and I think I may have really bad news 597 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: for those people. 598 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gotten the best therapy I've ever gotten in 599 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: my life. When I'm a whole bunch of different topics, 600 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: the raising kids or whatever from chat GPT. 601 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: And then the other thing I want to get into, 602 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: also troubling Franken babies featuring the Chinese Frankenstein as he's 603 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: known the whole Well, if we allow gene editing to 604 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: get babies to blah blah blah, boid this disease, how 605 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: long until we have you know, designer babies being met 606 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: Now now is when that's when it's gonna happen. 607 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: Now. 608 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I want to hear this. Some of the greatest minds 609 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: of our time are as enthusiastic as they are about AI. 610 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: Oh. 611 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this. There is not a oh, 612 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: we're playing God here, No, there's a let's do it. 613 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: How quick, can we do it? Spirit about designing babies, well. 614 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: You people are crazy, but there's always going to be 615 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: people like that, so there's no stopping it. 616 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. So anyway, that's stuff to come next hour. 617 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Among other fair will they be green with bolts in 618 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: their neck optional, that's the point. You just check the 619 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: Frankenstein box. I mean, it's a little on the nose 620 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: to me. Look, we were planning to have a Franken baby, 621 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: and so we thought square head, bolts in the neck, 622 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: greenish skin, big stitch scar across the forehead. We're kind 623 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: of thinking now, maybe that was a little much, but anyway, 624 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: we love him. Little kids are making fun of him 625 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: at school. We should have thought this through. We've got 626 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: more on the way. Armstrong and getdy