1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: I keep putting a p in his name, Kevin ky 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Dog ky Bone. Can we get a cricket? It's just 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: like audio? 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Was it Arthur? 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: But the stakes? 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Do I do it? Do I do it? 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 3: It's Fried Fried gotta get down on frid Hello, Falcons fans. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to regret that. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: That was so good. That was amazing. 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: This is what happens when you put me in the 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: host chair. I am tarn Walker, joined by Will McFadden. 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: I will a. 13 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Little bit of role reversal here today. Because it's the 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: off season. 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: We want to keep things interesting, just like the Falcons 16 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: have been as of late. 17 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah they have. 18 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: I was waiting for a good one. 19 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Anything going on? 20 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they kind of wait before we get there. 21 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: We do have some housekeeping to address. On Tuesday, there 22 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: is going to be a press conference depending on the 23 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: weather for the big news we are about to address. 24 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: Wow, we really should just let you go with it. 25 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: But regardless, that'll be streaming on Atlanta Falcons dot Com 26 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: on all platforms. And then the next time we have 27 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: this show will be next Friday, and I won't sing 28 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: Rebecca Black then. So this was a one time opportunity. 29 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: You won't have to it was recorded. I regret to 30 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: inform you, and now we have that whenever we want it. 31 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: Aren't people like throwing it back to twenty sixteen. I'm 32 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: basically on brand. 33 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Yes. 34 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: And then my third matter is, because we don't have 35 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: a question of the day, I'm going to ask will 36 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: a joke. 37 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me a joke? 38 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: Ask you joke? 39 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Ask me that joke. 40 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: That's not how that's phrased, is it? Anyways? Why was 41 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: Cinderella so bad at football? 42 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Can we get a crickets? Just like audio? Key? 43 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Right? 44 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Why was she so bad at football? I mean, my 45 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: first thought obviously goes to slipper like glass slipper. 46 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: No, that's not waste too much time, is this? 47 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 48 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Why she kept running away from the ball? 49 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: There you go like that? That was a going I'm 50 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: saving that as the as the resident dad on the podcast. 51 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: That is mine. Now, thank you so. 52 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Much, You're welcome, and now we can get to the news. 53 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: What news you key, I'm not certain their news teasing 54 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: me with the news. Let me have it. 55 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: The Falcons have their twentieth head coach. 56 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: What when? 57 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: Oh, he might have been asleep, considering it was announced 58 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: at ten pm Saturday Night. 59 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: His name is Kevin Stefanski. 60 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin k dog k bone. 61 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: Anyways, to give a little timeline to all this, the 62 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: Falcons finished their first interview with Stefanski on January eleventh, 63 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: so that was a six day turnaround to figure out 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: that he is their guy. Stefanski was the Browns head 65 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: coach from twenty twenty to twenty twenty five. In his 66 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: first season, the Browns went to the playoffs for the 67 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: first time since two thousand and two. A whole adult 68 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: could have been born in that time period eighteen years. 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: They did so again in twenty twenty three with Stefanski, 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: and in both seasons, Stefanski was named AP Coach of 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: the Year. Dinglingling, that's big anyways, that's that's a big bit. 72 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: That's a big award. That's a big award. 73 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: Well, when the news came out, you also had Matt Ryan, 74 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: the President of Football, speak on it, You had owner 75 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: Arthur Blank speak on it, and then Stefanski gave his 76 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: little input to So let me give you a little 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: bit of what they had to say. Matt Ryan said, 78 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: Stefanski is a lead by example leader. He quote puts 79 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: a premium on accountability for everyone and a player driven culture. 80 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Arthur Blank said in Kevin Stefanski, we have found a 81 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 3: coach with the right vision, focus and demeanor to lead 82 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: our team into the future. This is gonna make everyone cheer. 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: He also said, our objective is to win games and 84 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: contend for championships every year and that is where our 85 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: shared focus will remain. 86 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, applause, the crowd goes wild. 87 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: Stefanski said there are many talented players on our roster. 88 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: Keyword hour that was fast that I cannot wait to coach. 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: All right, So those are the facts, the quotes that 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: can all be found online. Hello Atlanta Falcons dot com. 91 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Will can you explain to me so I can stop talking? 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: Why all this is good for the Falcons? 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Though? I thought you did a great jobs running out 94 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: of breath. Yeah, it's hard to kick off the show, 95 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: but no, I think that ultimately, like, there were a 96 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: lot of different ways that the Falcons could have gone 97 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: in this coaching cycle, and anytime anybody approached me asking 98 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: what kind of my thought was on who they should hire, 99 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I really had a hard time kind of figuring out 100 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: even where I landed, right because given the fact that 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is now here as president of football. Feels 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: like that being a new position, this is going to 103 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a pivot from maybe where 104 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: they had aligned or were on the runway, you know, 105 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: towards in the last like five six years. Right. So 106 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: given that, I kind of thought a ton of options 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: were on the table. You could tell me it's a 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: first time head coach in Clint Kubiak or Joe Brady. 109 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: You get told me it's a defensive guy like Jesse 110 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: Minter right or John Harboff special teams like longtime head coach. Ultimately, 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: I think Kevin Stefanski kind of like is the best 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: middle of the ven diagram of kind of everything that 113 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: you're looking for. He as you mentioned, two time Coach 114 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: of the Year, So he's experienced, right, Yeah, I know 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: we need like a little golden light on top and 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: just the twinkly music. So he's got the experience and 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: he's got a proven track record of success. And then 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: when you dig a little bit deeper into kind of 119 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: like specifics and details his background offensively, I think is 120 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: very appealing to Atlanta because it matches a lot of 121 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: where they have been both under Arthur Smith. Like if 122 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: you look at Kevin Sefanski's personnel usage, a lot of 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, a lot of thirteen personnel, So he likes 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: tight ends and kind of going back and even looking 125 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: at like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, where the 126 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: team's ranked Atlanta and Cleveland were kind of like right 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: near each other in terms of some of their personnel pack. 128 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: So I think offensively, the roster that you have kind 129 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: of lines up nicely, probably for what he wants to do. 130 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: And then, of course, and we'll kind of get into 131 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: more of the other coaching news, but keeping Jeff Ulbrick 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: and kind of allowing somebody to say, hey, like defensively, 133 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: you've got this in a good place. I'm gonna trust you. 134 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: I wonder how much of a factor that was, Like, obviously, 135 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: if a head coach came in with their clear defensive coordinator, 136 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that was gonna necessarily dissuade any of 137 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: the decision makers if they felt that that head coach 138 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: was the best candidate, right, Like, that's what we heard 139 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Arthur Blank say, That's what we heard Matt Ryan say. 140 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: But I just think that Kevin Stefanski kind of has 141 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: the clearest vision steps into a situation where he's going 142 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: to be able to implement that vision, probably rather quickly, 143 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: and the Falcons are a roster that are ready to compete. 144 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: That is part of the reason why this change is 145 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: being made, is because the expectation has not been met, 146 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: and the expectation is that this is a playoff team. 147 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: So for all of those reasons, I kind of think 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: that Kevin Stefanski wasn't just one of the hottest names 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: out there on their coaching market, he was maybe like 150 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: the right name for the Atlanta Falcons. 151 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously I have absolutely no say in the 152 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: matter and who the Falcons chose as their head coach, 153 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: but thinking about them landing on an offensive orientated coach 154 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: rather than a defense did kind of make me think, Okay, 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Jeff Ulbrick is coming back. I know you said that, Yes, 156 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Arthur Blank wasn't going to pull that string or make 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: that decision. I can't help but wonder if that was 158 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: like in the back of their mind sometimes when they 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: were looking at coaches. But you'll never know. And regardless, 160 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: Jeff Ulbrick is back in Atlanta. To circle that news bit, 161 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: it was Stefanski's first decision as the Falcons head coach. Basically, 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: he did take Arthur Blank's advice from two weeks prior, because, 163 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: as you were saying, he literally said, you can't dictate 164 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: a new head coach who their coaches are going to be, 165 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: but I would certainly recommend to a new head coach 166 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: that they considered Jeff based on his track record. That 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: track record drafting four defensive players, two of which were 168 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 3: first rounders in ed Rusher's Jalen Walker and James Pierce Junior. 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: And then another two who are finalists as we speak 170 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: in this moment, ap defensive rookie of the year. Of them, 171 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: two of them that is also Pierce and safety Xavier Walks. 172 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: We'll get into the players a little bit later and 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: how the coaching staff that's coming into formation as we 174 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: speak will impact them. 175 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I just noticed you have finger gloves. I know those 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: are nice. Yeah, you got like scene Taran over here. 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: Gosh, derailed my line of thought. 178 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: I know, I get super uncomfortable when it happens. 179 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: But going back to Jeff Ulbrick and his track record, 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: it most notably includes Falcons defense going from second to last, 181 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: started from the bottom to second overall. 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: Now we're here in sacks. 183 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: Overall, Atlanta had a franchise high fifty seven sack last season, 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: fifty seven. They had thirty one in twenty twenty four. 185 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: I say a bunch of stuff again, Will Jeff Ulbrick 186 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: is back in Atlanta? What are your thoughts on that decision? 187 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant move because I thought it was. Yeah, 188 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: because I thought it was a great move to bring 189 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: him back. You know, I know that when the decision 190 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: was made kind of last year around the same time, 191 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: right to bring back Jeff Ulbrick, a lot of people 192 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: viewed that first and foremost as Okay, Raheem Morris is 193 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: bringing in a buddy, right, and well, sure they had 194 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: a history together and they worked well together. I also 195 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: think that just Jeff Ulbrick is a damn good defensive coordinator. Heck, yeah, right. 196 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: He showed that in New York, and a lot of 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: our pieces around that time were explaining that you can 198 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: go back and check him out if you want to. 199 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, Tarin, you did the deep dive on like 200 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: here's what his defenses did in New York, and weirdly, 201 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: like Robert Sala I think gets a lot of the credit. 202 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not in the building. I don't know exactly 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: how the breakdowns everything went, but generally in my time 204 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: being you know around NFL teams, like your coordinators are 205 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: really running those units. Sometimes, yeah, you get a coach 206 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: like Kevin Sfanski has got a clear background on one 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: side of the ball. But like that, each organization, I 208 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: guess is different in how each head coach whether they 209 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: want to be involved or not, like depends on the individual. 210 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: But I think Jeff Ulberg had a ton to do 211 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: with the defensive success that they had in New York 212 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that he was able to kind of 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: in year one. Now, they weren't a top five unit 214 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but for like half of the 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: year that I feel like they were right. And once 216 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: you saw the season kind of like during that seven 217 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: game slide, that's where I think you saw some of 218 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: the season overall numbers start to like kind of creep 219 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: back towards the middle of the pack a little bit. 220 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: But for like five weeks there, they were the number 221 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: one defense in DVOA, right, and they were doing that 222 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: with four rookies out there on the defense. So that 223 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: is where I think Jeff Ulbrick is a phenomenal teacher. 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: I think he understands clearly what he's trying to do 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: and then is able to effectively communicate how each of 226 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: the eleven defenders fit into that vision, and he gives 227 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: them kind of a very clear mindset to adopt. Right, 228 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: we're an attacking style defense. I want you to play 229 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: on your front foot, don't worry about anything else that 230 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, like, don't read and react. Go get him. 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: And they went and got him last year. Right, So 232 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: that is where I think keeping Jeff Ulbrick maintains some 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: consistency for a side of the football that has largely 234 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: been defined by like inconsistency over the last five years. 235 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: You think of all of the different defensive coordinators that 236 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: that group has had, from Danp's to Jimmy Lake to 237 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen, you know, and now Jeff Holbrik and it's 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be nice, I think to have the 239 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: same voice in the room, the same kind of teacher, 240 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: and the same vision, which is going to allow the 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: personnel side and the scouting side to kind of say, Okay, 242 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: we know what we're looking for exactly because we were 243 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: looking for it last year and now we've got a 244 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: year of experience kind of getting those same archetypes. So 245 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I love it for the players, and I really think 246 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: that you can see Atlanta's defense maybe build on this 247 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and continue to take a step forward in some of 248 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: the other areas because we saw what they did in 249 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the pass rush. 250 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: If you want to know more about Jeff Ulbrick as 251 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: a coach and as a human being, make sure to 252 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: check out Atlanta Falcons dot COM's Heartmindfist feature. Will Me 253 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: and Tory McIlhaney each kind of took one of those 254 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: entities and explained what it means for the defense and 255 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: why this is Olbrich's mantra. And I really think you 256 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: saw that on a week to week basis with the 257 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: defense and probably will in twenty twenty six too. 258 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think you saw the kind of like takeaways, 259 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the ball hawking mentality, noticing just every time they were 260 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: going in to make tackle, they're also trying to kind 261 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: of punch the ball out. We saw the evolution towards 262 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: the end of the year with like rushing four as 263 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: opposed to blitzing a lot. But you also, I think 264 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: saw a fearlessness from Jeff Ulbrick as a coach to say, 265 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: how do I, as a coach embody kind of that 266 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: attacking mindset. I want my players to adopt out there 267 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: on the field. What they do They blitz to the 268 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: second highest rate in the league. Right, So, if you're 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: not going to be kind of pressing that joystick forward enough, 270 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to grab your thumb and I'm gonna go 271 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: ahead and press it forward for you because we're just 272 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: going to dial up a play that makes you attack. 273 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: Right. 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: So, I great analogy, Thank you. I love a enalogy. 275 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: I like what Jeff Holbrooke brings. 276 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: Well. 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: Jeff oulbrig is someone we know a lot about. The 278 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: second higher Stefanski made official. We don't know a lot 279 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: of Well, the league knows a lot about him. We 280 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: don't know a lot about him personally in Atlanta just yet. 281 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: And that is Bill Callahan as the offensive line coach. 282 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 3: His resume, My gosh, I question him, what are you 283 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: going to retire? It's so long already. He has four 284 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 3: decades of experience. He started coaching as a graduate assistant 285 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 3: the University. 286 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: Of Illinois nineteen eighty. 287 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: He became an offensive line coach for the first time 288 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty seven at Northern Arizona University. From there, 289 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: he stayed with the offense throughout the rest of his career. 290 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: Callahan's first NFL game came in nineteen ninety five I 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: was born in that year with the Eagles. He has 292 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: since also worked for the Raiders, Jets, Cowboys, Commanders, Browns, 293 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: and Titans. You'll notice the word Brown's in there. He 294 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: and Stefanski did overlap. That's the tie here. Tory mcelhaney 295 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: wrote the newser for that story. I was in Miami 296 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: for the Natty sad Kines, and she said he is 297 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: one of the most decorated and respected offensive line coaches 298 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: in NFL history. Well, what does this hire mean for 299 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,359 Speaker 3: the Falcons specifically? 300 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's on the one hand, like I think 301 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: a little bittersweet, right, because the job that Dwayn Ledford 302 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: has done is Falcons offensive line coach, has really been spectacular. 303 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: You know, like when you look at I believe so yeah, 304 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: he came, he was here with Arthur Smith, maintain retained 305 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: with Rheem Morris, and honestly, he's like kind of grown 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: up with this offensive line group that Atlanta has here 307 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: in place, and if you look at just kind of 308 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: the entire team. I would say that over the last 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty, like maybe the offensive line you could 310 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: say running back, right, but like those two are so 311 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: closely tied together, has been like the most consistently successful unit, 312 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Like year in and year out, we know what they 313 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: can do in the run game. 314 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think John Robinson exactly. 315 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I think they've made so many strides in pass protection 316 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: as well, especially not so much in twenty twenty five, 317 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: but twenty twenty four, I think they did a really 318 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: good job. But even last year they only gave up 319 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty six sacks. Right, So the work that Dwayn Leadford 320 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: did I don't think should be discredited, even though they are, 321 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, bringing in Bill Callahan. It's just that I 322 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: think one day Dwayn Leadford hopes to have that kind 323 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: of resume that Bill Callahan has. 324 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: That's just how the industry works. 325 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: It is. 326 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: It's never a knock on the person before, right. 327 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: And I think a big part of this too is 328 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: just the familiarity that Stefanski has working with Bill calla Han, 329 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: who only really left the Browns to go to Tennessee 330 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: to work for his son, Brian Callahan. Right, So like 331 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: that was a little bit of an extenuating circumstances special there. Yeah, 332 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: It's it's not as though he left the Browns on 333 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: necessarily bad terms or wanted to get out of it, like 334 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: this was an extenuating circumstance. But just the experience that 335 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: he's had in the league, I think is going to 336 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: be so beneficial for these guys on the offensive line, 337 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: given where they are now in their careers. Because even 338 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Matthew bergerand now is entering year three right. 339 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: Which is crazy. 340 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like these guys grow up right before you arrive. 341 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: Jake Matthews is like, I mean, one hundred years old. 342 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: It feels like at this time in Yeah, he probably 343 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: feels one hundred years old at times, even though he's 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's still got many great games ahead of him. 345 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: But it's kind of like the point I'm making is 346 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: that as somebody who has so much experience, decades and 347 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: decades of experience, not only is he going to be 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: coming in here with a different perspective having not worked 349 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: with this group before, but he's coming in with so 350 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: much perspective that I think it will give him a 351 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: little bit of, you know, more credibility maybe in the room, 352 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: and it's just going to be a different approach than 353 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: the one Dwayne Leadford went with. Now, I still think 354 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: that offensively stylistically, you're gonna see a lot of the 355 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: same things. I would expect them to keep that wide 356 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: zone outside zone area of attack in the run game. 357 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: So the coaching points might kind of be the same, 358 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: but the lessons applied, the just demeanor, the overall kind 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: of way of going about it is going to obviously 360 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: be different because Bill Callahan is not Dwayn Leadford. So 361 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a surprising move, but 362 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: one that's understandable given who is coming into the building 363 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: for sure. 364 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: I just while we were talking about all of his 365 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: experience and then you calling Jake Matthews one hundred years old. 366 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, Jake. 367 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: I think it would be re situation to sit down 368 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: in like I'm picturing like a cigar room with like 369 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: leather chairs with those two and just listen to stories 370 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 3: and like hear them trade intel like that because they 371 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: both have such different perspectives as coaching player, but I've 372 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 3: both been seen so much throughout their days. 373 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: The centenarians cigar lounge. 374 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that an actual place? 375 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: No? No, I just made it up. Okay, Yeah, and 376 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna make it an actual place, Jared, that's your 377 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: next assignment. Get us, build us a lounge, build us 378 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: a whole cigar lounge. 379 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: Well, and when we made this outline for this show, 380 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: at that point, we hadn't had the news that dropped 381 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: on Thursday today is Thursday afternoon. Literally about forty five 382 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: thirty minutes ago, news came out that Tommy Reese was 383 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: named the Falcons offensive coordinator. Talk about overlap. He also 384 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: worked with Stefanski in Cleveland. You have another overlap in 385 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Jacqueline Roberts, who is the coordinator of did You Do Wrong? One, 386 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: manager of coaching operations here in Atlanta, was the core 387 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: native of coaching logistics in Cleveland. The Falcons also retain 388 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: Dave Huxtable, Nick Jones, and Michael Petrie from last year's 389 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: staff with the same titles. So just wanted to put 390 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: that in there to get you all informed out there 391 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: in the wild. But now we will carry on with 392 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: our script, which to circle back to talking about James 393 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: Spears junior, Jalen Walker, a little bit of a Jon Robinson. 394 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: We don't even want to touch the quarterback yet that's 395 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: coming up. But what do these coaching additions, especially Kevin's 396 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski mean for the roster. There are twenty nine 397 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: impending free agents according to over the Cap, and the 398 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: most notable are Bradley Pinyon obviously, Leonard Floyd, Kaden Ellis, 399 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Kyle Pitt Senior, David Anyamata, d Alford, like a lot 400 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: of them are defensive heavy, which is interesting when you're 401 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: retaining the defensive coach. So I'm wondering how all this 402 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: is going to play out this offseason. 403 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good place to start, you know, I think, 404 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: first and foremost, given that inconsistency that I mentioned, at 405 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: least in terms of like your defensive leadership. Right, when 406 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: you talk about a player like David Onyamada, while he 407 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: is a great player and a veteran, like thirty four 408 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: years old, right, so he's a little longer in the 409 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: tooth as well, and he wasn't a Jeff Ullbrick guy 410 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: who was brought in here, right. So while there is 411 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: a lot of benefit to having a player like that, 412 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: there isn't necessarily that clear, clear connection to Jeff Ulbrick 413 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: and Nate Ali, right. So that's usually where my mind 414 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: goes first when you look at free agency connection between 415 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: coaches and players, because that familiarity is so important. But 416 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: having said that. 417 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: I do think Kaden Ellis. 418 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, like Kate Ellis is an amazing 419 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: player that I would want back on the Atlanta Falcons 420 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: because of how much he can do and how I 421 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: think Jeff Ulbrick like, it's not that he unlocked him, 422 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: because he was doing it the year previously as well. 423 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: But having a player like that is so beneficial, I 424 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: think to a defensive coordinator, because he is a little 425 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: bit of your queen on the chess board, and the 426 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: queen there we go, we stand a queen. And I 427 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: think that like hearing him during training camp, you can 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: tell the amount of admiration that has or that Jeff 429 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Holbrig has for kay Nellis. So you know, again, we 430 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: it's so early, like we can't really speculate exactly on 431 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: who is comment because like we haven't even heard from 432 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski yet, so I have no idea of like 433 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: what his he may be. Like we're playing linebacker list 434 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: football surprise. I don't expect him to say that that 435 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: would be wild, but it would be wild offensively, though 436 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned kind of the twelve personnel thirteen 437 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: personnel usage. Obviously that comes with like a big question 438 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: about Kyle Pitts the way he finished the season. You know, 439 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have tossed out franchise tag, 440 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: like I think that could be in play if they 441 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: don't want to have him a right you know, like 442 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: you look at what David and Joku did, Harold Fan 443 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and Junior this past year. Cleveland has used their tight 444 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: ends and I think Kevin Stefanski has always found it valuable. 445 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm putting words in his mouth here, but for a 446 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: young quarterback, having a tight end is often a safety blanket. 447 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: So it wouldn't shock me if that is a position 448 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: that they try to address early on. You already have 449 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: Charlie Warner in place. We know what he can do. 450 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: He's a really good blocker, He's a great asset in 451 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: that room. But did they try to bolster that out 452 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: and then how does that maybe trickle down to wide receiver, 453 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: which is a position group that I have been kind 454 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: of most curious about this offseason because I do think 455 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: they could still stand to maybe add one more piece 456 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: and have kind of like three of those starting caliber 457 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: guys No Slight, David Sills or Chris Blair or you know, 458 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: any of the guys kind of in that Dylan Drummond 459 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: in that room. But if they're going to be running 460 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: a lot of twelve or thirteen personnel like then I 461 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a priority that becomes. 462 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: And then the last little bit is Tyler Algier right now, 463 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: the luxury of having two running backs is I think. 464 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: A luxury, especially that caliber. 465 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Exactly right, Like, Tyler Algeer could be a starter for 466 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: probably half of the teams in the league tomorrow. And 467 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: how valuable is that? Right? We know the Bejon Robinson 468 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: is all world, led the league in scrimmage, like it, 469 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: very very happy to give him the award, yep, I'm 470 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: very happy to give him the ball as often as possible. 471 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: But how much do they want to lean on that 472 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: run game and how much do the individual skill sets 473 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of matter? That That's what I'm looking at when 474 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: it comes to free agency. And I think offensively that 475 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: like the offensive side of the ball is probably going 476 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: to be the focus here after a lot of defensive 477 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: stuff last year. 478 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay, So if they're going to prioritize the offense. The 479 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: biggest question mark once again is the quarterback position. Michael 480 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: Penick Junior is recovering from that season ending knee injury 481 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: surgery that he had done in November. Kirk Cousins contract 482 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: was reportedly restructured, but he has history with Stefanski. My 483 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: biggest question for I keep Stepansky, but it's not it. 484 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: It's Stefanski. I keep putting a P in his name. 485 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: The most like self assured you get is when you 486 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: get mad at yourself. It's so funny. You're just like 487 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: like kind of and then you you like refocus and 488 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: center on your set, and you're like and then everything 489 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: comes out so clear. It's amazing. I love it. 490 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm really good at going, skirt keep going. 491 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: The biggest question for Stefanski and hopefully Tuesday given the 492 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: weather press conference, is what's the plan for QB one 493 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: entering training camp. 494 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean you just mentioned the biggest rinkle of it 495 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: all right, is that Kevin Sefanski has history with Kirk Cousins. 496 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: I know, the whole thing. 497 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I mentioned what it slice break the chair? Yeah, 498 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I know, I mentioned kind of Kevin's offense. I call 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: him Kevin like we're best friends. Sorry, coach, correct, it 500 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: ports over really really well. Part of that is is 501 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: because it's very similar to I think what a lot 502 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: of the players here have run previously, even though the 503 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: terminology might be different, there might be some extra packages, 504 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: some nuances like but Kirk is quite literally like been 505 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: with this coach. I'm not sure if what the play 506 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: calling duties are, how that's all going to work out 507 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: and everything, but the language shouldn't necessarily be entirely new 508 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: to him. And how valuable is that, right? Like, I 509 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: don't know that is that. 510 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: Is the question to think a lot. But I've never 511 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: been a quarterback of an NFL offense. 512 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I mean, while the person who kind of 513 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: has final say he has, so that that matters, I 514 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: do think, and that is actually something that we probably 515 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't lose sight of in all of this, because if 516 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: there is one position on the team that you want 517 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: to make as comfortable as possible, it is quarterback. There 518 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: should be some comfort. But between Kirk Cousins and Kevin Stefanski, 519 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: a lot of comfort between those two. I mean we 520 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: saw in the Quarterback documentary kind of like in Zach 521 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Robinson offense. There was a lot of motions and Kirk 522 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: was kind of commenting on that early, right, And so 523 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: even these little small things when you're the one running 524 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: the show, they can be big things and you got 525 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: to remember them all and you've got to have everything down. 526 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, there have been a couple of fumbles this 527 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: season with like the timing of motions and things like that. 528 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't expect you to have those hiccups if Kirk 529 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Cousins is here with Kevin Stefanski, you just given again 530 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: the familiarity and the comfort of that offense. And I 531 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit more of the traditional play action, 532 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: wide zone under center style of offense that we did 533 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: see from kind of the Kyle Shanahan offense, the Kubiak offense, 534 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: and a little bit more of your traditional kind of 535 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: like West Coast based offense. So whether or not that 536 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: means Kirk Cousins will be here in Atlanta, I have 537 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: no idea, because the contract is obviously a big factor 538 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: in all of this. So Kirk Cousins part of side. Right, 539 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: we know that that Mike has undergone surgery successfully and 540 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: is working through his rehab. What the timeline is I 541 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: don't know. 542 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. Not a quarterback and not a doctor. 543 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: Nope, Nope. As much as as I would like to 544 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: be one or play one on TV, I'm not. So 545 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: when does he make it back on the field, And furthermore, 546 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: like when is he back to full health? 547 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Because you don't want to rush that, No. 548 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: You don't. And I mean we've seen, unfortunately the Falcons 549 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: have kind of seen what some of the limitations are 550 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: maybe for a quarterback, even though I expect it, like 551 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was healthy last year, right, but anytime you're 552 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: dealing with the lower body stuff, like you kind of 553 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: hold your breath sometimes. And if they really do want 554 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: to do an under center, play action roll out based 555 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: type of attack, that's going to be a lot to 556 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: put on a player coming off of knee surgery. So 557 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: I agree, like they're going to have to have a 558 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: plan in place, and I would imagine that, like whoever 559 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: is in here in training camp, if they perform well, 560 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: like you give them a look, you know, like even 561 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: though Michael Pennix is the quarterback of the future and 562 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: is still very much the franchise quarterback here, like you 563 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: need to win football games and that should be the focus. 564 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: So whoever you can bring in, whether that is Kirk 565 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: Cousins and you figure out a plan with his contract, 566 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: whether that is somebody is kind of like a one 567 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: year off the street free agent who you feel really 568 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: good about, kind of like Marcus Mariota with Arthur Smith 569 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: in that first year, Like they're options they can take ultimately, 570 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: Like I expect Michael Pennix Junior to be the plan 571 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: moving forward though. 572 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but whether that's week one has yet to 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: be determined and won't be determined until August rolls around. 574 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: What are some like other questions like you're going on 575 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 3: you're leaving me every going on paternity leave right before 576 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: good old Kevin's press conference and y'all are buddies apparently, and. 577 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna high five on the way out of the building. 578 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: Deuce is like, why don't we just like talk through 579 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: our plan for well, my plan now for that, Like. 580 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here to the quarterback. 581 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: The quarterback has to be a topic of conversation at 582 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: the press conference. I think you already asked about play 583 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: calling because like you said, like that depends. Is it 584 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: gonna be Stefanski, Is it gonna. 585 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: Be the oc. 586 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: Are you gonna bring out a third party? Likely not, 587 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: but you don't know, Like that's another thing that could 588 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: factor into all these decisions. When then you ask about 589 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: like free agency, how does money want to be spent? 590 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know that you can talk about draft 591 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: desires because you don't have a GM in place just yet. 592 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: Which as a reminder, those interviews will be announced on 593 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons dot com when complete. As of this podcast 594 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: right now at one fifty eight pm on Thursday, there's 595 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: only been one, So keep an eye out for those 596 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: as they come out. And so will we pause, I 597 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: mean play back into the conversation. Like there's so many questions, 598 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: what would you prioritize? 599 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a natural first one is we've 600 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: heard from Arthur Blank, We've heard from Matt Ryan on this, 601 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: but just hearing from the coach and then eventually the 602 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: general manager like how is the structure working right? Like, yeah, 603 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: what does it mean to you to work with Matt Ryan? 604 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, like to hear from kind of the coach 605 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: and get their take on just the support that they 606 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: will have from Matt Ryan in the president football role 607 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: is going to be important. And then I think, really 608 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: like I am again, I'm so fascinated by the dichotomy 609 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: of the offense and the defense, and Stefanski coming in 610 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: here after like Jim Schwartz, who he has had in 611 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland has been very successful. Miles Carrett just like set 612 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: the record for single season sacks, Like that's crazy. And 613 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: so I was doing a little bit of digging into 614 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz and and kind of like his philosophy on defense, 615 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: and he's been kind of successful a lot of different places. 616 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: It's not too dissimilar from Jeff Ulbrooks, right, it's rush 617 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: for it's playing on your front foot. It's like kind 618 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: of taking the ball away on the back nd. I 619 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: would imagine a lot of defensive coordinators around the league 620 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: say something similar, but getting Stefanski's thoughts directly on Jeff 621 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Ulbrick and and kind of like did did Cleveland and 622 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: New York play? I'm sure they did being in the AFC, 623 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, like what was that experience? Like that would 624 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: be a big question of mine. And then I think 625 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: you you pivot to roster. You mentioned quarterback, but some 626 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: of these other marquee players that have been impactful and 627 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: important for Atlanta in the last couple of years, Kaden Ellis, 628 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Pittsyl yep, even even d Alferd. I thought Liam 629 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: which Jings was the other day It was so cute. 630 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, like all of these these kind of like 631 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: further down the the line item list questions or with 632 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: players like that's going to be I think the bulk 633 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: of where we get to next, but a like in 634 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: the off season with the coaching and kind of like 635 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the decision making. The big overall question though that I 636 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: think thematically I would want to get at in this 637 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: press conference is just like why Atlanta? Right? Like, what 638 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: did Kevin Stefanski feel? Was it Arthur Belcokings? Was it 639 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: wasn't the steaks? Was it the steaks? Are we talking? 640 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Was it a tomahawk rabbi or was it just a 641 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: regular you know, like what kind of steaks? What seasoning? 642 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: Was it just salt and pepper? Or do you have 643 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: like a little. 644 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: Pack break down that dinner? I want to know the 645 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: entire menu? 646 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: Should we just turn this into a food podcast right now? 647 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: What kind of sides are we doing? Are we doing 648 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: with potatoes? Are they mashed potatoes? Do what kind of 649 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: greens are we working? Yes? 650 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, maybe we shouldn't have the food podcast. 651 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Then welcome on Masterclasses. 652 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: Why Atlanta? There are. 653 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: Eight other teams looking for a head coach because the 654 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: first Domino fell was the Giants, then the Falcons, and 655 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: now eight remain I believe ten total. 656 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, some keep opening up a lot. 657 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot, So why Atlanta and why so quickly? 658 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: Like like the NFL season is not even over. No. 659 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: The argument also could be made, and this is like 660 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: fascinating to me, is that he may be going to 661 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: a better situation than the one he left, even though 662 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns went to the playoffs twice with him 663 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: as head coach, which I think is also part of 664 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the calculus here. If you're Atlanta, you kind of look 665 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: at Cleveland's roster. You look at your roster and you say, okay, yeah, 666 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: we don't have a Miles Garrett, but we just drafted 667 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: to James Pierce Junior and a Jamila Walker, right, we 668 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: got Brandon Dort, you know, like we've got these pieces 669 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: in place. I love Atlanta's secondary. I think it's better 670 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: than Cleveland has a very good secondary, but I like 671 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta's a little bit more. You know, the running game 672 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: Quinn Shawn Judkins did great. I like, but John Robinson, 673 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, like, so yeah, you start doing that game. 674 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: And Cleveland's had its own issues with the quarterback situation. 675 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski has been able to overcome those and make 676 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs twice. Kind Of given that, that's so, an 677 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: argument could be made that, like he's leaving a situation 678 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: and actually going into a better one, So like I 679 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: would want to hear that him and like his take 680 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: on kind of that whole situation and what you're leaving 681 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: and what you're gaining and kind of the optimism he 682 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: feels about getting this group into the playoffs is probably 683 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: where I start. 684 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: I want to know how he did it in twenty twenty, 685 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: because the Browns hadn't been to the playoffs in eighteen 686 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: years year. 687 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: One, actual weren't in two thousand seatoffs. That two thousand 688 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: and seven season is like the only thing I know 689 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: about the Browns. 690 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: But he wasn't on the staff, so I don't care. 691 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: I think he wasn't on the staff, so it doesn't 692 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: matter right now. 693 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: And even if we go two thousand and seven to 694 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, yep, like, how how did you show up? 695 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: And turn that program around to where it is going 696 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 3: to the playoffs and your first year as head coach. 697 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: Like that, that, to me is what Atlanta should be 698 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: looking at, being like, Okay, he did it there, he 699 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: can do it here. 700 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 701 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Like drought, rainfall, Yeah, bring the rain, weather talk, bring 702 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: the rain and the food. 703 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I one other thing you just made me think of 704 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: is like we've talked a little bit about over the 705 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: last couple of years Raheem Morris, Like usually around training 706 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: camp time is like, hey, the identity like is born 707 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: out on the field by the players. What what's Kevin's 708 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: fancy's thoughts on that? 709 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: You know, He's gonna show me like this is the 710 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: identity and everybody better follow it. And I'm gonna be like, whoa, 711 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: He's like, this is different. 712 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I put the eye and identity. It's me. It's my identity. 713 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: No, be as crazy as a third person calling the 714 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: place a random third entity. 715 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Yes, the unnamed assistant. Yeah that would be amazing. Yeah. 716 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: I so just kind of getting his thoughts on, like 717 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: what's the team's identity? What do you want this group 718 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: to be about? And and like how are you going 719 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: to handle your business moving forward? 720 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: And do you care that there's no first round draft pick. 721 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: That's a good one too. 722 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: Yep, thank you. 723 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: How do you attack this offseason with with no first 724 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: round draft pick? 725 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: Which will be huge for the GM whenever I think 726 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: she comes in. 727 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: He's only had like three first round draft picks as 728 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: a head coach, so it's it's not necessarily something he's 729 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with, but you know, it's it's not what you 730 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: want either. 731 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully every single one of these questions will be 732 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 3: answered with the very straightforward answer on TVD Tuesday, Mother Nature, 733 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: please cooperate. I want to get to this press conference. Yeah, 734 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: I think we've covered a lot. Is there anything you'd 735 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: like to add? Any embarrassing stories you like to randomly 736 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: thrown at the end of the podcast like I normally do. 737 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: No, No, I am perfect at all times. 738 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: Taren, all right, well I'm that. 739 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: No. 740 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: Everyone the Friday Five say tutulou to William for a while. 741 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: Now, he's going to be a full time father for 742 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. 743 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: I guess not not for a little bit like you 744 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: always are a full time you know what I mean. 745 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm a full time daddy. 746 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, everyone, make sure you like listen, subscribe, maybe 747 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 4: don't comment, but tune in next Friday for your next 748 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: Falcons Friday five, I'm tarn Wapa, joined by Will McFadden. 749 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Thank you as Viennes Ye