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Speaker 1: The volume. An important News only Fans model claims New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans player Zion william has fathered her child.

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Speaker 2: What's up with your man? My man?

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Speaker 1: That's not my own, know man, I mean I'm not

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Speaker 1: mad at anyone that has a type Zion, he has

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Speaker 1: a type?

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Speaker 2: Is that real? Or was that just like here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm gonna be I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: with probably.

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Speaker 3: They've been posting fake like dms from him, like trying

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Speaker 3: to high at like the most random like celebs, and

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Speaker 3: it's like that's not people think it's real, not real.

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Speaker 3: So I just don't know if that information is real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with yes, just based off patterns

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Speaker 1: like shout out my nigga, Gucci, shout out my nigga Zion.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that like may need rehab?

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Speaker 2: What going on only fans?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think anything that access could probably

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Speaker 1: need to go to rehab. But if I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: this about Zion because everything could be false in the headlines,

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Speaker 1: but if you just directly are obsessed with sex workers

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Speaker 1: specifically and are constantly being exposed for either getting them

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Speaker 1: pregnant or you're all in their DM Like at some

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Speaker 1: point you think maybe there's something tied to this that

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Speaker 1: could be an addiction problem. Like you're not just like

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Speaker 1: out here dating. You're finding a specific type of woman

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Speaker 1: for a specific type of reason, which always ends up

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Speaker 1: getting you jammed up.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you don't want to There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with a woman doing OnlyFans if that's the content she

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Speaker 3: wants to create. But no, I'm just saying, like only

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Speaker 3: fan creators. So Zion is young, he's he's he's rich.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't want a serious relationship. Maybe he just

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Speaker 3: wants to, you know, have fun with different beautiful women.

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Speaker 3: I think impregnating these women that you have no intentions on,

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Speaker 3: you know, being a family with and like raising children

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Speaker 3: and just you know, paying child support, I think that's

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Speaker 3: an issue. But I think being young, rich and wanting

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Speaker 3: to have sex with beautiful women, I don't think that

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Speaker 3: that's calls for rehab. Now again, creating families and children

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Speaker 3: and not being there for children and just thinking that

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Speaker 3: child support money is gonna, you know, be enough for

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Speaker 3: a child, I think that's a problem. I think that

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Speaker 3: when it gets to that, because doesn't he have a

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Speaker 3: he has another child right with another was Mariah Millsting.

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Speaker 2: Was she pregnant or I felt with she?

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Speaker 3: Did he have a baby on her? And she was

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Speaker 3: mad and something like that. It was something weird like that.

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Speaker 1: She was a bit like one flow of the cuckoo's nest,

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Speaker 1: put the cuckoo back in the clock type of person.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of stuff I think she said was

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Speaker 1: probably true. And I do think Zion really did wife

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Speaker 1: that girl. Like you're saying, you just are fucking sex

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Speaker 1: workers and keeping it moving. Nah, he liked that girl,

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Speaker 1: which is fine, there's nothing wrong with Yeah, But I

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Speaker 1: don't even make it just a only fans or sex

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Speaker 1: worker thing, because that's not really what I'm saying. If

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Speaker 1: your man's was like only targeting bank tellers, like that's

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Speaker 1: his only fucks women that work at the bank, you

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Speaker 1: probably have some questions of like, oh, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's just you're targeting attractive women.

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Speaker 2: Like are you about to go? Are you about to

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Speaker 1: There has to be a reason why you're doing this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm I'm getting at with. Because we see

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Speaker 1: ship rumors of James Harden, a bunch of NBA players

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Speaker 1: that we can see the type of igesque stereotype women

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Speaker 1: that they go after. But that looks more like you

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Speaker 1: may have a sex addiction for chicks with fat asses

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Speaker 1: and big lips. This like the only thing every woman

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Speaker 1: has in common in all of these rumors is that

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Speaker 1: they are prostitutes.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, young, rich, you just want to pay

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Speaker 3: you know. That's again I don't I don't even think

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Speaker 3: Zion is twenty five yet, is he Like he might

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Speaker 2: But again, I'm not making this a Zion thing. I

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Speaker 2: just think I think with certain.

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Speaker 1: Patterns, I think when you're young, ask some questions of like,

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Speaker 3: Not what somebody as young as Zion is and has

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Speaker 3: the money that Zion has, it's like he's having fun,

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Speaker 3: like you know, now if he's approaching retirement and still

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Speaker 3: doing that, it's like, all right, bro, you al.

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Speaker 2: Right like it.

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Speaker 3: But being like in your twenties and rich and being

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Speaker 3: on only fans and dating only fans girls is like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's nothing wrong. But again, I just

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's healthy. I just think it's a

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Speaker 2: unhealthy to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what that Kinker addiction could be,

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Speaker 1: but I still think, like if we see a woman

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Speaker 1: outside of money and fame, you'd be like, I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, money.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just curious what I just go after this

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Speaker 1: type of woman at all times after it's backfired on them,

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Speaker 1: God knows how many times in public, Like you have it.

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Speaker 3: You have an issue. That's where young comes in at

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Speaker 3: he's young. He's young. You don't know, Yeah, he don't.

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Speaker 3: He don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I thought the point of paying sex workers was for

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Speaker 1: them to be quiet, Yes, but I thought that was

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Speaker 3: But if you're having children with them, you can't expect

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Speaker 3: them to be quiet about that. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you know that Ralph Ciparetto. Shit, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like that's what I'm saying. Like, once you start having

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Speaker 3: child support and help raising her this child.

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Speaker 1: Like man, Nancy Reagan, did it? You can turn them around.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that one different different culture. Trump

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Speaker 1: did it, Reagan. A lot of people have turned different,

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Speaker 1: turned their queens around.

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Speaker 2: Different culture, true, see different culture. Though.

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Speaker 1: I feel like America has entered that there's male order

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Speaker 1: brides that's domestic us, Like, it's not a FedEx international thing.

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Speaker 1: You can now get a male order bride like in

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Speaker 1: the States. We've become that that culture for sure. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And Zion's lead leading the charge.

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Speaker 3: Leading the charge is starting forward, starting forward, Zion Williams.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think this, uh, this Jada and Fat thing

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Speaker 3: Never know where the legs are gonna go never And

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Speaker 3: here's the thing, because I thought it was on sex.

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Speaker 2: Workers, but apparently legs everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, I still think people care about

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Speaker 1: music and debating about music on the internet, But the

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Speaker 1: Internet has shamed New Yorkers for so long to tell

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Speaker 1: us that nobody gives a fuck about our rappers but us.

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Speaker 1: That's where I was like, oh well, I mean this

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Speaker 1: than fucking Drake and Kendrick. Yeah, like they were debating

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Speaker 1: People brought up some good points, but it didn't really

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Speaker 1: skew my perception. I still think I still think Jada

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Speaker 3: Know, No, I agree with you. I think Jada is

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Speaker 3: a better rapper than Fab. I just think that Fab

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Speaker 3: is criminally underrated. And that's the you know, with a

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Speaker 3: conversation I was trying to take it. It was just like, bro, like,

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Speaker 3: we don't speak about Fab. I think the way we should.

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Speaker 3: We don't champion Fab the way I think it deserves.

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Speaker 3: Somebody that was actively putting our music in the late

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Speaker 3: nineties and then still being as relevant as he is today.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about over twenty five years. That's not easy

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Speaker 3: you know, we know if Fab if it's and not

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Speaker 3: only has he been putting out you know and been

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Speaker 3: there's still a demand, like people still want soul tapes

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Speaker 3: and still want you know, summertime shootouts and want a

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Speaker 3: new Fab album, Like for you to still be in

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Speaker 3: demand like that with your fan base twenty five years later.

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Speaker 3: That speaks volumes, and that speaks to you know, your craft,

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Speaker 3: and I think that that's something that people should speak

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Speaker 3: to more. Like whether you know you have Fab again,

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Speaker 3: it's just New York rappers. If you have Fab me

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Speaker 3: your top five, ten, twenty, whatever, that's all subjective. I

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Speaker 3: just think that, you know, collectively, people need to really

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Speaker 3: start identifying the fact that Fab has been out for

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Speaker 3: so many years. He's put out so many any dope bars, songs, mixtapes,

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Speaker 2: You know, just look at the rest of the landscape.

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Speaker 3: But rappers where you know that like they that does

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Speaker 3: not happen for twenty five, twenty six years, like.

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Speaker 1: Kiss two, Like yeah, but that's ninety started releasing very

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Speaker 1: very deservedly, still very much relevant today, whether he's podcasting,

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Speaker 1: I still think people want to hear new music from Jada,

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Speaker 1: But also he's in that realm, which I guess we

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Speaker 1: in the USA at MetLife. Yeah, and everyone champions the

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Speaker 1: back catalog of the older statesmen of other genres where

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Speaker 1: But I thought Versus was actually great with that because

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Speaker 1: we saw not Jada have like a new career per se,

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Speaker 1: but he got the flowers in recognition he deserved for

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Speaker 1: his back catalog, which I think, you know, launched into

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Speaker 2: You know what I think it is too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard anybody called Fab a legend, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what That's what bothers me like. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I hear people say, yo, Fab is a legend.

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Speaker 3: The way they kind of put that legend tag on

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Speaker 3: other mcason rappers.

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Speaker 2: It's like bro.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six years, twenty seven, maybe long in the twenty

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Speaker 3: six years Fab has been putting on music.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll find someone in my age group

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Speaker 1: in the Northeast that wouldn't say that that's a rap fan.

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Speaker 1: I think that wouldn't say that, say that Fab is

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Speaker 1: a legend. No, I think you would say that's a

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Speaker 3: I think you would say if somebody doing the conversation

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Speaker 3: to you, But I.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't just be running around, but you know how to

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Speaker 2: say why. You'd be like, we go, yo, Jada legend

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Speaker 2: nahs legend yea da. I think Fab belongs in that conversations. Agree.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's as great as a rapper as

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Speaker 3: the legend hats and putting them in the ring, it's like, bro,

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Speaker 3: y'all gotta start looking at Fab and saying, Fabs nay

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Speaker 3: more like twenty seven years maybe even twenty eight years

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Speaker 1: How many nice do you think Fab could do at Barcley's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's all I was talking to man, and

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Speaker 2: Man, But it was.

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Speaker 2: You see, we knew every Fab joke.

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Speaker 1: and a space ghost you got. I could see you

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Speaker 1: a little salty on your face when when Heineken asked

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Speaker 2: Fab or Banks? That wasn't salty. I just don't. I

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Speaker 3: So you lif defended. No, No, I just don't think

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Speaker 2: Well that's why, as I said, are we talking about

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Speaker 1: Just because if Fab in Banks were to do it

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Speaker 1: but if we're doing solo versus yeah, Banks versus Fab,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if it's just rapping, I have Banks over Fab.

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Speaker 2: Banks can Banks can rap? I don't. I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like he's a better rapping than Fab though,

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Speaker 3: I don't, but he can rap. You know, we know

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Speaker 3: that Banks can rap, but it's not. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's the thing with banks that I always noticed, like queens,

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Speaker 3: who y'all hold banks down? Yeah, you can't say nothing

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Speaker 2: What would there be negative to say?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not saying it is what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 3: Nah, But I don't think he better than I'll be like, well,

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Speaker 3: what you mean, like did you not hear it? And

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Speaker 3: y'all get it too that, yeah, it's like, all right, man,

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Speaker 3: y'all get into your pok. Nah, y'all don't want to

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Speaker 3: We funk would be okay, but I'll call him hefner sometimes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: And I love the fact that people having these conversations

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I love to see that.

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Speaker 3: But in my in my humbled opinion, because I can't

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's just because Banks during that like

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Speaker 1: personal Yes, he's one thousand percent like Coolgie rap is

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Speaker 2: Yeah understand, so like rap, you know music, Banks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Banks would be right there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if you got him top three queens, he's

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Speaker 3: you got him above fifty.

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Speaker 1: You got him above fifty personally, yeah, no fucking way.

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Speaker 2: Personally do you personally have? Like to you and y'all

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Speaker 2: probably listening to Banks in fifty the same? Okay? I

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Speaker 2: got that? Is Banks a better rapper than fifty? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay at rapping? Yeah, at no, he's not a we

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Speaker 2: know he's not a better artist. You know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah at rapping, yes, but that's not as much as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Banks would be top top five.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if I'm going with my non personal one,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like you said you got Banks three top prodigy, Like

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Speaker 2: Of my personal favorite.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I heard that part a personal favre because nobody

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Speaker 1: You just said, which is I disagree Banks. I think

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Speaker 3: Nah, bro people my age nah, because people your age

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Speaker 3: A lot more people gonna.

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Speaker 2: Have Nikki in the top three out of queens.

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Speaker 1: If I'm doing my regular list, Yeah, Nikki would would

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Speaker 1: be top three, top five for sure. I put Nicky

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Speaker 2: This is all right. So this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But then been the rapping weeds like I got Pharaoh

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm just saying, that's.

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Speaker 1: Where do you put tip? Like there's a pause. There's

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Speaker 1: off the twenty years, twenty plus years of me listening

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00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: to hip hop, Banks is probably if I were to

437
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 1: do my Spotify wrap up of my whole life.

438
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so p up there, Okay, I'm not mad at

439
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: that I'm just saying.

440
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just trying to get more to your brain,

441
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: your musical brain, like Queens.

442
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: And C did I Midnight Marats? Is it one of

443
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: the greatest ever? Did I listen to it constantly?

444
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Sure?

445
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: But in my fucking ninety three Chevy Malibu from four

446
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: to twenty ten.

447
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

448
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was more money in the Bank part three,

449
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: plan every day, not elect electric relaxation, like we was

450
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: just banging banks mixtape.

451
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: Shit, I get it.

452
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 3: I just like the fact that people are having these conversations. Man,

453
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 3: it's good too.

454
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: Queens is a tough one to put together though as

455
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: far obviously Brooklyn would probably be the toughest. But putting

456
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: in Queen's top five together, you have to leave out legends, oh, like,

457
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: without a doubt because out the game between l Nikki, Q,

458
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: tip Uh, Prodigy, Cool G Run, DMC, I mean, where

459
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: do we start there?

460
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: Fifty It gets very.

461
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Fucking tough to put a top five again, You're going

462
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: to disrespect the legends somewhere throughout this.

463
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 2: Dare I say ja rule oh Era, of course he's

464
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: up there.

465
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: My personal five of who I listened to like mainly,

466
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: let's say High School, nas Banks fifty rule, and then

467
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: probably I would put Tribe at five of who I

468
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: listened to.

469
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: The most at that time. Okay, yeah, all right, it's Fab.

470
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: It's Fab top five out.

471
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: Of Brooklyn, Big.

472
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, While I think, okay, do you

473
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: have him in top five? I know people are literally

474
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: yelling at their pods car speakers of how mad they

475
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: are for us to even consider this. But I'm not

476
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: mad at the conversation I got.

477
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: I got Fab top five out of Brooklyn probably, yeah,

478
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: j Big, Yeah, Fab, Caine, Kim Foxy Okay, yeah, Fab

479
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: is probably my top five out of Brooklyn.

480
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: You have most in there, yeah, but not in my

481
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: top five? Okay, Okay. Personally it is well, you're you're

482
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, ten years my senior, so I can see

483
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: you haven't came there. Do I respect Big Daddy Kane

484
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: and think he's amazing and all that?

485
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: Fuck up? Because I'm young, we ain't say rock him.

486
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: Rock is from Long Island? Oh Ship? Yeah, I forgot.

487
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: I always feel like Rocky was from Queens.

488
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: No, no, but ship that Long Island when we were

489
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: sung with Dayla. That's a crazy list if you get

490
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: down to it. Yeah, between them fucking rock him half

491
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: a lo o, cool j doom bizz like it gets

492
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of crazy in Long Island as.

493
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think so, I I think. But see that's

494
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: the thing.

495
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: I think, definitively, definitively more people will say Fab is

496
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: top five out.

497
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: Of Brooklyn then they would say Banks is top five out. Yeah.

498
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't debate that at all. So that's what I'm saying.

499
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: It's like, definitively, I don't think people argue that. I

500
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: think top five out of Brooklyn FABS did for sure

501
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: for ninety five percent of people.

502
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: Okay, where do you put where do you put jigs

503
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: of them? Because you just leaving out most jizza. It's

504
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of nuts to me. No, I'm just saying in

505
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: my personal top five. I mean, obviously they you know, legends,

506
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: they'll be on that list, but yeah, for me personally, nah,

507
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: speaking of the underrated rappers, you know, we didn't put

508
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: like a full list together or anything, but I felt

509
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: like not bringing up as and the most underrated rappers

510
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: of all time was kind of nuts.

511
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: But the output as don't have enough music. What I

512
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: think maybe you just weren't paying attention me. Of course

513
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: I was paying attention. I mean, Door Die.

514
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: Obviously a classic, but any of the Nine Lives Joint

515
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: Asiadic he put out a lot when I was in

516
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: high school, Like he just wasn't on a major label.

517
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: Let me pull up Azide because A Z has some

518
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: of my favorite albums when I was.

519
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: In high school.

520
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm talking about like what Fab has been

521
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: able to do and how relevant he's been there to

522
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: stay and things like that over twenty six, twenty seven years.

523
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: That's not you know what I'm saying Like A Z.

524
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: Of course he's a to me, He's a legend for sure.

525
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: But when you say most underrated ever, I think I

526
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: think Fab is that.

527
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: That run of Door Died, Pieces of a Man, which

528
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: is incredible, Non Lives asiatic a well in the format

529
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: ninety five to six, A Z was very very consistent

530
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: and very very underrated in my opinion, because I was

531
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: even writing them down once I was seeing the comments

532
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: of the underrated shit, I have A Z pretty I

533
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: I have inspected Deck SUPERB, but just the output wasn't there,

534
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: and you know, losing his first album in the flood

535
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: during that Wu Tang shit, I think things obviously would

536
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: have been different. This is my sleeper underrated rapper Chamellionaire. Okay,

537
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I figured I would get a laugh from you. We

538
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: got it, Like did you listen to a millionaire in

539
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: the mid two thousand? Like he could really rap and

540
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: his albums were fucking great.

541
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I just think he kind of came off as like

543
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: a character tur to some degree.

544
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: It was a little too animated.

545
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it was the era of people

546
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: coming off what Luda did with being animated.

547
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: It kind of was like a thing in hip hop. Yeah.

548
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: It just he could really fucking like rap, right, no, no,

549
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: for sure and would never get that. Isn't he like

550
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: some crypto billionaire now or.

551
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Some shit yeah rap, he doesn't care about raping. You

552
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: don't care whose listen he's on.

553
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, just John names down on the way we talked

554
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: about Sic. I still think she gets overlooked, like the

555
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Wheel the Street robum. I think she had the best

556
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: verses for sure. Koji rap we just brought up before

557
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I got Cormega there again, just a bunch of Queens rappers,

558
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: the whole Queen's Down Raco, which we talked about. I

559
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the La sound now is

560
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: just kind of his flow and his approach to music.

561
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: Redman esg I have there.

562
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how good Boosy was until I got older,

563
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, Boozy had like two hit wreckers.

564
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: Of course we knew who Boosy was. How I learned

565
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: how to spell, which I guess is saying something fab too. Yeah,

566
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: that's not how you spell. Did you know that that's

567
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: not he spelled? Yeah, okay, nobody told me. There was

568
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: no red screaming association, like you don't spell. He's like,

569
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: he's spelling it wrong. It was like he's doing that

570
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: on purpose. But there was never a time when I

571
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: had to like spell fabulous at that in that era,

572
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: so I never really got correct.

573
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: You don't even say fabulous. When do you say that?

574
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: When do you say the word fabulous? Like that was

575
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: like if we go off the end of and he

576
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, Steak was fabulous. That is

577
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: the last time we ever going to dinnity.

578
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of That's how good fab must have

579
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: been at rapping in the late nineties that no one

580
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: from your era gave.

581
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Him shit for calling himself fabulous.

582
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Well it was fabulous sport, you know, that's what you

583
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: guys always say, Like that changes anything.

584
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that was just his name.

585
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it came from allegedly some some

586
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: non quote unquote gay shit. Like I know it wasn't fabulous.

587
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, some polo shit. Yeah, but

588
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: still I'm shocked that no one was like, fabulous, that's

589
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: what you're laying on, but not sports at.

590
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: The end, you're trying.

591
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: You're making it now, you're making it weird. You like

592
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: to do that, you like to make things weird. I

593
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: get what you're saying.

594
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: At that time, Fabulous was probably the most like stereotypical

595
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: gay joke from straight people. Fabulous, and they would do

596
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: this like I'm sure that was the SNL skit at

597
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: that time, Like that happened for sure. And then fab

598
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: came out kind of on his Mayship like the pretty boy,

599
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: like I'm shocked that people weren't giving him more, like

600
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: that's how good of a rapper you are that he

601
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: was like, all right, fine, you can be a fabul

602
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: It's like.

603
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: What's his name again, Fabulous? All right, yeah, he's nice,

604
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: like he can rap.

605
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: And then I'd say the same, but no one's saying

606
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: anything the stack Bundles when he said I'm the gorgeous gangster,

607
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: who was like, yeah you are.

608
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: We agree, I want to collect it with you, Like, no, listen,

609
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: get someone telling me, someone tell you someone dispute that somebody,

610
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: somebody expressed their discrepancy about Yeah, your.

611
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Man not gorgeous.

612
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Rest in pieces of stacks, man of stack bundles for sure.

613
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: But uh but yeah, the most underrated rapper ever is

614
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: Ludicrous and his discography is better than Fab and Jadakiss.

615
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Respectfully, we're reading off some some ig comments. I do

616
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: agree that that Luted is one of the most underrated

617
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: rappers ever. Yes, for sure, for sure.

618
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: But because they talked about more than they talk about Fab,

619
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: and they give him more like praise and they give Fab.

620
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Luda is the Fab of

621
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Atlanta and this is you have every right to come

622
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: me on this because I'm not from Atlanta.

623
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: This is me outside looking in.

624
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: When I talk to my Atlanta friends and we have

625
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: these debates, they don't bring Luda name.

626
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: Up the way I feel like they should.

627
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, the same way we're talking about Fab, like yeah,

628
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: we all know, if you think about it, this guy

629
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: is a legend. I just don't hear Luda's name being

630
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: brought up right away in even you have to put

631
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: him in the top five. But the fact that you're

632
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: not even bringing his name up to debate it has

633
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: always been crazy to me. I think Luda and Fab

634
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: have a very similar trajectory in that point with their cities.

635
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Like before Ti and Gez came along, though, is this

636
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: was the guy like this was who kind of ushered

637
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: in the eventual takeover from the South. And I know

638
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Atlantic in debate about somebody I wasn't around, but I'm

639
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: saying from the outside looking in where all of us

640
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: were like, well shit it, Atlanta's better than us now,

641
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: like they got it. It was Luda kind of ushering

642
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: that that part. And I'm not saying that he has

643
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: a better catalog then Jada in FAB, but if you

644
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: get in to his first few albums.

645
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Ludacris discography, it might be underrated. I'm willing to agree

646
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: with that.

647
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Back for the first time, word of Mouth, Chicken and Beer,

648
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: when we had that debate of like the three album run,

649
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: I apologize for not putting Ludacris in that conversation. Back

650
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: for the first time, word of Mouth, Chicken and Beer

651
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: from two thousand to two thousand and three is the

652
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: craziest three year run of that time. I feel like

653
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: that was nuts and on the visual side, Yeah, I'm

654
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: not mad at that comment.

655
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: No, I do feel like he's underrated, but I feel

656
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: like Luda gets he does get his his praise, though

657
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: I feel like people do. I feel like he's underrated

658
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: as far as like people not really understanding how dope

659
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: of an MC is. Like lyrically, I think people look

660
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: at the animation and the visuals and things like that.

661
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's more like too much maybe of a

662
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: character for a lot of people. Yeah, rap it kind

663
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: of leans into the character.

664
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Speaker 1: Well, he was funny, he was a radio personality. It

665
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: was funny, but Luthera could still rap when it was

666
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: So that's what I say.

667
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: I think he's underrated in that regard, not of his celebrities,

668
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: star power and how people revere him and talk about him.

669
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's underrated there.

670
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: I think he's underrated when you start talking about his

671
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: skill set and how well he can really rap.

672
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: He actually has more in common with Fab now that

673
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I think about it, even more because Fab has a

674
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of those lines that are more silly and fun.

675
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Her feet are killing her called the suicide what all right?

676
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: Cool?

677
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: It's for the song. Fab could really rap. Lud to

678
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: him are very similar in that regard to think they're

679
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of it's a delivery though. Yeah,

680
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: people call it like remedial bars, and it's like, no,

681
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: that's for the fun of the song. But when it's

682
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: time to rap, both of them can really really rap.

683
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: But Luda like, you're gonna get the hip hop quotable song,

684
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: which to me is captions. It's a caption rap the

685
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: same way Fab was doing it.

686
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

687
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Loot and Faber are actually extremely similar, just from

688
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: different places in the country.

689
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Boozy shit.

690
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't until Boosie started doing content and the Internet

691
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: had to tell me that Boosy was like a rapper.

692
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't really paying attention. Yes, Boosy is Boosy.

693
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: That's why we gave him a pass for wearing a

694
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: wearing the jacket quartsa the Cava jacket, which was crazy

695
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: because I don't even think Boozy knows like how much

696
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: he does mean to our fraternity and our strolls and everything.

697
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: I think he just like, didn't he say like he

698
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: barred it from his brother and just was like, oh,

699
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: it's cool, it's red.

700
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Shout out to Scott Vanid.

701
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: You know he's curated some music for some of our

702
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: favorite shows, How to Make It in America.

703
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: He did entourage.

704
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he was in the comments he said, if

705
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: we're talking underrated, I would argue Beanie C was the

706
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: most underrated. He has two of my most listened to albums. Scott,

707
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean your musical, your taste is impeccable. But beans

708
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: is probably considered to most the best rapper out of

709
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: his city, his city. Fab is not considered the best

710
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 3: rapper out of New York on nobody.

711
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: And this is no disrespect just Philly in New York.

712
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: As far as time period of who's putting out hip

713
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: hop and sheer population, it's an unfair comparison, like.

714
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: It'd be easier to be the best.

715
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: I get I'm not on skill level number one on

716
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: our rapper cities, but just the sheer population is different.

717
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: But from your city means you're not under it.

718
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're in Scottsdale, Arizona, exact if

719
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: you're the number of robber your city, remember one of anything.

720
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So I'm not here. If people

721
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: have you as number one from your city, you're not

722
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: under it.

723
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm number one of the Mars. So no,

724
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: And we've talked about our personal top tens. I have

725
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: Beans in my personal top ten favorite of all time.

726
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: But I do see what he is saying, Like, I

727
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: think it was just because being Bean's run wasn't short

728
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: just when he was at his height, the run of

729
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Rockefeller was so short. When he was at the highway,

730
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: he was the next guy. Yeah, it just got cut

731
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: cut too quick, and then he went to jail as well.

732
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of factors. So I could

733
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: see what was Scott saying.

734
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: It was some things that messed with this trajectory as

735
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: far as being a superstar and if this changed anything.

736
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Scott did put Lloyd Banks my house in Entourage, which

737
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: was a mixtape record. I don't remember any fat mixtaper, no, Scott.

738
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember Vincent Chase banging fab mixtape. Yeah, Like

739
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: if you ever watched remember Turtle throwing on that More

740
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Money in the Bank part.

741
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Two though, Yeah, you watched any of those series on

742
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: HBO around that time and the music that was curated

743
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: Broke Mogul on Instagram Scott Vania. He was responsible for

744
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: all of that impeccable what I call curation and playlists

745
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: of some of our favorite shows.

746
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, while we're talking about Philly, I young Chris on

747
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: my list under.

748
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's underrated. If we're talking about I don't say

749
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: Beans is not.

750
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Underrated to me. Yeah, Chris Young Chris is underrated even pet.

751
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: I think most of State Property, if things had panned

752
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: out different, would get the flowers that they deserve because

753
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: everybody in State Property could rap rap. I have Obi

754
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Trice on my list, Okay, I even still like every

755
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: now and then we'll throw on Obie's second album, Second

756
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Round on me. Like Obi made good projects even after

757
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: like his A Lure and the eminem shit kind of faded.

758
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: He was still putting out joints. Like I even think

759
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: the setup is on that he had hit records and

760
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: he could rap really well. Yeah, and who's our guy

761
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: that was also signed in.

762
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: Shady at that time, Stack Quo Statquoles underrated out of

763
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Atlanta and it was one of the most underrated rappers

764
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: out of Atlanta. Stack Quo, without a doubt is one

765
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: of the most underrated rappers out of Atlanta.

766
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: And I promise you, Paul, this is not a diss

767
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: at all. I will say Shady Records has had.

768
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: Some of the best.

769
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Rappers that just ended up. I don't know what happened.

770
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: How you guys were promoting. Remember Cash if that was

771
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: signed the same time as stack Quo, he was nice Cash.

772
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Is is he from Cleveland? Chicago? Chicago? Okay?

773
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was on that whole eminem presents the

774
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: reup shit that that stack Quot was like the star

775
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: on Obie Like it was the Shady you know, their

776
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: version of mixtape.

777
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: As a major album. Yeah, he was night Like.

778
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: They had a lot of guys in that era that

779
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: were fire. I just don't know what happened, But I mean,

780
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Paul's gonna take it as at this they're sensitive. Over

781
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: there another Queen's rapper. I have Nature, Okay Nature. I

782
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: even think on a from TV might might have the

783
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,279
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786
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: I used to play that Nature album all the time.

787
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Four Seasons or some shit like that. It was a

788
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Speaker 1: I wanted to have last episode when we were talking

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Speaker 2: I think jay Z is an underrated rapper.

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Speaker 1: He gets his just due. Of of course people don't

846
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Speaker 1: even like them. Put them numb onecause he's accomplished everything's

847
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Speaker 1: he can rap just as good as every last one.

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Speaker 2: Of your favorite rappers.

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Speaker 1: But see when you say under he's an underrated lyricist Like,

850
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets his flowers for how good

851
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: of a rapper he is. Not songmaker, not great albums,

852
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: not achievements, not longevity, just flat out rapping. I don't

853
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: think people throw his name in the mix because we

854
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Speaker 1: always like the same way we were saying with fab Max,

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00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: we talked about just rapping, rapping. Nobody throws hole when

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00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: we're talking that, just you know, we just talked about rapping,

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00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: because then we get into the black thoughts Pharamont and

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Speaker 1: I'm not even debate if he's better than them or not.

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00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think fat Jay gets put in those

860
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: conversations the way he.

861
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Could rap just as good as everyone else. Yeah, but

862
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: I can't say lyrical miracle, whatever you want to say.

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00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: Jay can do that.

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00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: But I can't say jay Z is underrated only because

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Speaker 3: if we look at any you know, platform whatever, and

866
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Speaker 3: look at their list of the greatest ever, He's on

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Speaker 1: Know I'm talking about when we're having the lyricist rapper

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Speaker 1: rapper conversations about his skill set, like they don't give

870
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: that part of his skill set everything else. Jay gets

871
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: his powers for everything. I'm saying that.

872
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.

873
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Like we talked about lyricists, people be like, oh, I

874
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: put hole there, But if we're talking just lyricists, I

875
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: got black thought right here, Like Jay doesn't even ever

876
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: get in that conversation when we're talking about that.

877
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can't say Jay's underrated because he gets

878
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: his just due from everybody artists publications. But I'm saying

879
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: just the lyrical I get what you said, any part

880
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: of that part of his skill set doesn't get where

881
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: where where NAS gets NAS is putting both those conversations.

882
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: NAS will get his flowers on the side that Jay

883
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: gets his flowers on on all the list publications. But

884
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: then when we're talking about the nerdy lyrical side, NAS

885
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: will still be in that conversation. But Jamo, I just

886
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: I don't understand why, like Jay is just as good

887
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: as everybody at rapping, who's the one rapper that you

888
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: see a lot of people speak about and give praise

889
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: to that you just like y'all might be putting too

890
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: much on that.

891
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Fuck it, man, fuck it. Let's

892
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: have a conversation. These mics aren't here, these cameras are here.

893
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Which is you with me?

894
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: Okay, we're saying the era that we're we're talking about

895
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: right now, are you saying like currently Because a lot

896
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: of these guys think don't listen because we're talking modern

897
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: era like most of y'all think, No.

898
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm talking about just you know, from again my my

899
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: my taste level, you know, my growing up in the

900
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: culture and consuming the culture.

901
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: The era you grew up in that which we've been

902
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: talking about this whole episode.

903
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: The most overrated rapper to me, and you know, he's

904
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: a legend. But I fell victim to this at one

905
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: point too, and then I had to really sit down

906
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: and really think about it, like, yeah, he's dope, but

907
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: he might be overrated Andre three thousand only because he

908
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: never put out a solo rap project and he gets

909
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: gold status.

910
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Like we call dessert no no, no his listen, we

911
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: know the influence.

912
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: It was Twitter that I found out that the world

913
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: thought Three Stacks, Lauren Hill, and Tupac were all overrated

914
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: and not legends.

915
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: But it wasn't n til Twitter did I find that out.

916
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: But this is the thing is three thousand never had

917
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: a solo rap album, and I think I think to

918
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: be considered top five rappers of all time and not

919
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: have a solo rap album might be like damn, bro,

920
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: like how many other people can you know what I mean?

921
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: It's like I get the influence, Like one of my

922
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: favorite groups I'm always you know, whenever we even get

923
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: a hint that we're getting a two thousand verse, I'm

924
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: probably one of the first people to like run and

925
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: listen to it, so I know his skill set on

926
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: hundred two thousand is an incredible rapper. But I just

927
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: think when you're talking about just overrated, when you you

928
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: have to have a solo rap album, why to be

929
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: considered top five or one of the goats, Because it's like,

930
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: it's just that I think that's one of the qualifications.

931
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: Can you be considered a goat at your sport and

932
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: didn't win the title?

933
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: But in every every other genre of music, the people

934
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: that we say are goats with ninety nine were like

935
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: in groups? What do you mean outside of like Stevie,

936
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: Michael and Prince, Like people are in bands. People are

937
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: in groups and are still revered as the greatest at

938
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: their craft, Like what just because he's in it?

939
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: But they put out solo They put out solo projects,

940
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: not everybody who did you just name it didn't put

941
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: out So I'm saying, aside from Stevie, Mike and Prince,

942
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: most of music is within groups and bands, Like that's

943
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: a that's a thing.

944
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean this, yes, just groups and bands. When I'm

945
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: talking about in rap, somebody says you're one of the

946
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: other genres. I'm saying, rap is the only only place

947
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: that I feel like we do. This has to be

948
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: a solo artist. Navy pop music in that regard, because

949
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: which one of.

950
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: The top aren't singers of all time it was in

951
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: a group that we like, anybody's top five R and

952
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: B vocalist of all time, it's probably they weren't in

953
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: a group maybe at one point, but they put out

954
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: a solo project. That's what I'm saying, Like, you have

955
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: to put out a solo project. We have to just

956
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: see what you sound like, what you look like, what

957
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: you do on your own. And we got that with

958
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: New Blue Sun.

959
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: You know that wasn't rap. You know, good, good vibe,

960
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: good energy. There I'm with that. You know that's my

961
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: type of shit too.

962
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: But when you say because again, I felt victim at

963
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: one point of having three thousand and my top five

964
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: rappers of all time and I had to think about it,

965
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not fair to somebody who's entire career

966
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: is a solo career and they've put out amazing albums,

967
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: amazing bars amazing, you know, and they don't get that slot,

968
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: whereas three thousand gets it. But he never we never

969
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: got a solo rap project from him. But he's even

970
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: from the era where there was you know, it was

971
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: three verse era.

972
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: So it's not like every song's three stacks with a

973
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: sixteen move on Big Boy and the song like he

974
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: has a he has an output of verses that could

975
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: still rival somebody that is a solo artist with the

976
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: amount of outcast projects that were put out, plus the

977
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: verses he legendary verses he's put out at the latter

978
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: half of his career. If you put all verses side

979
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: by side with solo artists that we deem the best,

980
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: how are three How is three stacks not there?

981
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Listen?

982
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: He's there because he's in the conversation of greatest of

983
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: all time, So that right there is. And again it

984
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: pains me to even have an overrated rapper conversation and

985
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: put three thousand names in it, because he is one

986
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: of my favorite rappers of all time, but you got.

987
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: To have at least one solo rap.

988
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: I think we're the offensive part where fans like me,

989
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: it's the word overrated.

990
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: If you were like yo there's there should be there

991
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: should be in me.

992
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: There should be an asterisk maybe next to his name

993
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: because he was in a group type of thing. Like

994
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a Roger Merris asterisk on something because

995
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: the playing field is a little different right now. But

996
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: Roger Marris wasn't overrated because he had five extra games

997
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: than Babe Ruth to get sixty one home runs. Like,

998
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: it's just a different playing You're not overrated, you just

999
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: you're just in a different category, maybe because you guys

1000
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: are playing different sports when it comes to putting an

1001
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: album out.

1002
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but with this thing called rap or you got it,

1003
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: we got to know what you do by yourself.

1004
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: Just use Barry Sanders overrated because he had a shorter career.

1005
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, with things like that, Kevin Durant

1006
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: probably needs to be on a team where he's not

1007
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: surrounded by Steph and Clay and he need to go

1008
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 3: get one with Houston right now to be considered goat

1009
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: or to be considered like you.

1010
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Said about so many basketball players from that era.

1011
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Of course you can.

1012
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that doesn't mean that Kevin

1013
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: Durant's not a great That doesn't mean that Untie two thousands,

1014
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: not a great rapping, a great MC. I'm just saying

1015
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: that me personally, I can't have him in my top

1016
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: five and I used to, but I can't because but

1017
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: you got to have at least one solo rap project

1018
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: to be considered top five. And being overrated means that

1019
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: you're rated. It means that people they look at you

1020
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: that semantics it is though. Semantics it is, though, it's meaning.

1021
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: It's meaning like Yo, so many people fuck with you

1022
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: and like you. It's like, all right, but hold on, man,

1023
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: we gotta start looking at I. Do he have a

1024
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: solo rap back? So we got to kind of take

1025
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: It's just the attribute, just like you got to move

1026
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 3: the slight that down, like you got a solo rap joint.

1027
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: So he can't be you know what I'm saying. That's

1028
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: all it is, not saying he ain't. He's better. He's

1029
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: still better than ninety eight percent of y'all.

1030
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go with with the circumstances argument, because I've

1031
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: had this debate with the three sacks thing. Unfortunately Biggie's

1032
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: career was cut short. But I don't think anyone in

1033
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: this room would ever debate or give pushback that Biggie

1034
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: is not one of the greatest rappers that's ever existed

1035
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: on Earth, and the amount of output he put out

1036
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: in the years that he was here, a double disc classic,

1037
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: solo project, classic, the amount of rapping if you go

1038
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: off minutes, I'm sure three Stacks surpasses Biggie in the

1039
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: amount of elite rapping minutes. So why should it matter

1040
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: when he has put out just more than Biggie and

1041
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: we revere Biggie no matter what. And Biggie only put

1042
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: out three discs solo albums, okay, but it still has

1043
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the amount, the amount of versus. It's the amount of

1044
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: versus that prove that you're elite just because he happened

1045
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: to be rapping with somebody else on those Let's look

1046
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: at the totality of the proof.

1047
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: That we have.

1048
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: We have this many Biggie versus this many Three Stacks versus.

1049
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Can they not be comparable?

1050
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think you got to have No.

1051
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: He just was able to have a longer career with

1052
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the exact same amount of points. It's down to the

1053
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders thing, like you had a short career, but

1054
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: it was probably one of the most impactful we've ever seen.

1055
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: If you say Barry Standers not one of the greatest

1056
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: running backs of all time, you're out of your fucking mind.

1057
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Same with Biggie in that regard.

1058
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: But if you look at the time of someone reaching

1059
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: the numbers that Barry Sanders got, just in a longer format,

1060
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: why should that take away from from them, because just

1061
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: because Barry Sanders did it in a quicker amount.

1062
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: Of time, because they can go to opposite way as well.

1063
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Then Also, I don't even like that version because there's

1064
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: a lot of elite rapp like Wayne I think in

1065
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: modern era is up there with one of the greatest

1066
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: rappers of the modern era.

1067
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: I wish Wayne pulled back a bit with his solo output.

1068
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: I wish sometimes he got in a three Stacks shit

1069
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: and just gave us twelve verses in one year and

1070
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: kept it from here.

1071
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: Another one to me and want to get down in

1072
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: the path we've had. You've had this debate, you know,

1073
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to have it again,

1074
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: but we've had that conversation.

1075
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: Even though I don't agree with the Lauren debate, I

1076
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: understand that one more than the Three Stacks one, because

1077
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: we have this, this body of work from Outcast, which

1078
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: has so many andre three thousand verses. It's not like

1079
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Outcasts put out at Aliens and we said three Stacks

1080
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: was the best and then we got the Flute album

1081
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: like then, I'd understand it. There's a huge output even

1082
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: though it's not solo of three Stacks versus No.

1083
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I understand that, and he's still one of the goats.

1084
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: But you can't be you can't be top five all

1085
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 3: time on my list and not have a solo rap album.

1086
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's just not it's not it's not fair.

1087
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, we gotta get him by hisself. We

1088
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: got to see what he and I get it the

1089
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 3: verses with everything you know, Outcast has done the greatest

1090
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: rap group of all time in my opinion. I mean, yes,

1091
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: we give him all of that, I give all them

1092
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: that praise, but it wasn't a solo album. It wasn't

1093
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: a solo effort. Yes, he has verses on verses and

1094
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: things like that. We wrapping his ass off. I just

1095
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: think that it's you guy. It's overrating him to put

1096
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: him top five, if not just one hundred two thousand,

1097
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: anybody if they don't have a solo album, a solo

1098
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 3: rap album.

1099
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, what what if he put out one

1100
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: solo project that was not to the level of what

1101
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: a Quemini et Alien Southern Playlistic Cadillac, Funky Music, Stanconia.

1102
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: But he put one out. Now, do you put him

1103
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: there like today? Because I think it does sound like

1104
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: I think it has to be just because you put

1105
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: it out. I know it has to be. It has

1106
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: to be good.

1107
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the best example?

1108
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: All right?

1109
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I think he Prodigy is one of my favorite New

1110
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: York rappers. H and i C solo project. I fucking

1111
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: love project. Went crazy on that. I went crazy on that.

1112
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: That's such a good solo project. But what I say

1113
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: it compares to the infamous No So is that I

1114
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: still think Prodigy is one of the best in New

1115
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: York period. But that's not because he put out H

1116
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: N I C. It's because everything you do with mab Deep,

1117
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: it's his versus on the Mob Deep album.

1118
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also don't have him as as as

1119
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: a goat.

1120
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: I have him as want to go to New York City.

1121
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about rap in New York. Yeah, teas up

1122
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: there for New York and rap.

1123
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just using its.

1124
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: Included for sure a goat no matter where you're from. Yeah,

1125
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. You got to have a solo album.

1126
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: So that's just the checklist.

1127
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the solo project is or if

1128
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: it compares to what you did with your six albums.

1129
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, at least, at least we have to

1130
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: have a So we're not saying it has to be

1131
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: a classic and it has to be I'm not putting

1132
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 3: all of that on it. I'm saying, at the very least,

1133
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: we need to have a solo album from you, at

1134
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: the very least.

1135
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: I guess that's all. But still a legend, still a legend,

1136
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: hall of famer, all of those things.

1137
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not out of Please, I don't want this

1138
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: to be taken as I'm you know, discrediting in all

1139
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: three two thousand in any shape form of fashion. But

1140
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 3: I'm just saying me personally, I used to have them

1141
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: in my top five and I had to kind of restructure.

1142
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: That and look like but he don't have a solo rapper.

1143
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going with three sacks being overrated,

1144
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: I think big Boy is one of the most underrated

1145
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: rappers of all time. I think Big Boy is an

1146
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: elite rapper having to be next to you know, I'm

1147
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: on that side. Big Boy carap better than that, better

1148
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: than people give.

1149
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: Them credit for. And some may say a lot of

1150
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: those songs he had the better verses.

1151
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh there's there's plenty of outcast records where so yes,

1152
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: I agree, Sir Luci's Left Foot is a great solo

1153
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: Probably big Boy got great solo shit, this is what

1154
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And speaker Box, I mean, I know it's

1155
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: an outcast, but they were two separate. Speaker Box is

1156
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: an incredible rap out absolutely and obviously Love Below is

1157
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: one of the greatest.

1158
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it rap album. I don't know what

1159
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: it is music. It's just beautiful just to create what

1160
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: the fucking music. It's just he just let us in

1161
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 2: in his mind. He just listened to his mind. Here's

1162
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: where I differ.

1163
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: I think, uh A Day in the Life of Andre Benjamin,

1164
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: which is the last record on Love Below, I think

1165
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: that song is better than most of y'all solo rap albums.

1166
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: That's what I think.

1167
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Three stacks rapping for three minutes straight is better than

1168
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all solo albums that are fifteen minutes long.

1169
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so that's where I still like after.

1170
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: He did something said Atlanta, he fucking destroyed every rapper

1171
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the album and a joint.

1172
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: Uh who was the journk you have a row sixteen

1173
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: eight enough?

1174
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at depth jayming when that happened, and

1175
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: that that song was called something different, and then they

1176
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: came in and said, we're changing the title, the whole

1177
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: concept of the song hook everything sixteen once. Once you

1178
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: got there, everything everything changes, like this song is now

1179
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: about me.

1180
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: That's why it's like, you can give us those moments.

1181
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: I just need a solo album of those. I have

1182
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 3: those type of moments and those things like God damn

1183
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: like to at least have that, you know again, Still

1184
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: one of my favorite MC's ever, one of the most

1185
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: influential artists of our culture. Not taking nothing away from

1186
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: AUDIWT two thousand in any shape home fashion, but me personally,

1187
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 3: I used I did have him in my top five,

1188
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: and I had to change that cause it's just not

1189
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: if you don't have a solo rap album, It's like,

1190
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: come on, man, I give and.

1191
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: This isn't the three three three stacks thing, but just

1192
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: in general, I give more stats to the artists like

1193
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: hoh Nas Drake, people that have a very high output

1194
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: at the legend status that they are. I think that

1195
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: is a stat I think that speaks to how talented

1196
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: you are that you could put out this much music

1197
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: and still retain your status. But with that said, I

1198
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: don't take away from artists that do the opposite, because

1199
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: I don't want you to have a high output if

1200
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: it's not going to be at the degree of what

1201
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: you're doing with the cycle that you have, like, it's

1202
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: a stat that they can do that, but I don't

1203
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: think it takes away from your artistry. If you're on

1204
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: a you know what every two three years, I think

1205
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: I want to do this. I don't want to have

1206
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the craziest and highest output. I'm smart and we're not

1207
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: going to make it an eminem thing. But even a

1208
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: wayne thing, like when you have a crazy output, sometimes

1209
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: it can lead to what we thought was a classic desography.

1210
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: There's we're leaning into more bad albums than we are

1211
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: good with yea. So yes, While I give the rappers

1212
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: that can do that more credit, I don't take away

1213
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: from artists that are smart enough to know I'm not

1214
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: gonnaography like, yeah, let me chill.

1215
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: I'm cool. Yeah, let me take my time, couple a year.

1216
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: Let me take a year for just chill a little bit.

1217
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Like do I want a Frank Ocean album? Of course

1218
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: I do.

1219
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: But if Frank is sitting there every year and has

1220
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: fifteen records and goes, yeah, the Saint Blonde, I'm gonna

1221
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: take his word for it.

1222
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: I respect that and I appreciate that.

1223
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't give me some ship where now I'm

1224
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: looking like yeah with Channel Orange Blonde and nostalgia, we

1225
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: got you as one of the modern guys.

1226
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Don't start giving me reasons and not.

1227
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: Saying yeah, don't start giving me just these filler albums

1228
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: where it's like there was it a contract negotiat. He

1229
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: was just trying to get out of a deal, like

1230
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: because you know we start having now, he was trying

1231
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: to get out of his deal on that one. We

1232
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: love doing that going to Win album. That was kind

1233
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 3: of like like nah, but he was going through something

1234
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: with the label. They made him put that out.

1235
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: I like the last Kailani project, but I see why

1236
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Folded came after that album.

1237
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Yo, you came back real quick the monster while you

1238
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: were trying to get off of That's weird. That actually,

1239
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: that's a real thing.

1240
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying that we don't want too many

1241
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: of those though from our favorite artists.

1242
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, but ship, Yeah, I never liked the Tupac

1243
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: overrated one.

1244
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: But that's a big Twitter thing. I don't see it.

1245
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Man, Go through Tupac's desography, Yeah, tell tell me the

1246
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: blemish in that desography.

1247
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 3: I think, I think to what we were just saying,

1248
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is some of that ways,

1249
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: like it was so many songs after his you know,

1250
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: unfortunate demise, Like I think that it was kind of

1251
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: like people felt that way where it was like we

1252
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: get it, but it's like, you know, I feel like

1253
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: I feel like Pop maybe may have went back in

1254
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: and changed some of these verses and poo.

1255
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: He had the wayne output.

1256
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: We just didn't know, Like you hear every produce, like yo,

1257
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Pap would knock out five songs a day. Yeah, Like,

1258
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: but we don't know if Pac wanted to hear the

1259
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: five songs that.

1260
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Happened like that was just like it could have been referenced,

1261
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: It could have been up to the It was just like,

1262
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: let me just start this idea, you know, because you

1263
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: know how it is would create music world when you

1264
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 3: start an idea and don't live with it. To hear this, like,

1265
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: you just live with it for a while and then

1266
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: you go back and you know, you make the necessary

1267
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: changes to it.

1268
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, because like, but I don't hold like until

1269
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: the end of time. The song itself until the end

1270
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: of Time is incredible. I think we would have gotten

1271
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: that song from pop HADDI stayed a lot the rest

1272
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: of that album. I don't know if with a cogn

1273
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: like I don't hold Born Again against Biggie.

1274
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I just don't

1275
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: know if big would have been one hundred behind that.

1276
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: And don't ask me are you still down when you're

1277
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: not asking me that?

1278
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1279
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: And also who came up with Loyalty the game as

1280
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: the title seven years.

1281
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: After his death? Yeah, Like, I just it's like those

1282
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: those those loyals are resting and yeah, man it's over,

1283
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: man's let the man rest. Would you.

1284
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Would you be part of one of those albums now

1285
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: in the way like Alan Havoc doing the Mob Deep

1286
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: thing where it's like this is the crew or like

1287
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: what Daylight did? Would you ever want to participate in

1288
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: someone that passed album?

1289
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: It depends on how close of a relationship I have

1290
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: with the artists, how you know, the type of conversations

1291
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: we had. If I know, you know that the artist

1292
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 3: would have wanted that music to eventually be released, hopefully

1293
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: release it in a way that they would want it

1294
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: done things like that, then yeah, I mean artists created,

1295
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: and you know, most times the artists want the art

1296
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: that they create to be released into the world. But again,

1297
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: it would depend on my relationship and how close a

1298
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: proximity I was to the artists whose music or who

1299
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: whatever art it is, who would belong to. Like if

1300
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: you just hired me to work at a label, I'm like, yo,

1301
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: we got these whoever whoever songs.

1302
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't know, like I never had

1303
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: a relationship with this person.

1304
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to touch this, like

1305
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's just like it's just

1306
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: it's just a very you know, kind of like awkward

1307
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 3: space to be in. But if you have that artist,

1308
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: that relationship with that artist, yeah I would I would

1309
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: be on the side, Like I know they wanted to

1310
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: do this, They wanted to get this out. This was

1311
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: the vision they had for it, This is how they

1312
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: wanted it to.

1313
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: Sound feel look like.

1314
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: Then Yeah, I would definitely be on the side of

1315
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: putting that out and working on our project like that.

1316
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was should I never even asked set

1317
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: money like he worked on I think the first possamous

1318
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: pop album. He did like three records. I'm curious how

1319
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: he felt he never met pok.

1320
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1321
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: It has to be awkward. Yeah, like you don't know.

1322
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: Of course, I'll get these people like yeah like this beat.

1323
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like dude, this person ever even like like me

1324
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: and like my work like I don't. It's just so

1325
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: many different, like you know, emotions that surround that type

1326
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: of decision that I would have to have that personal.

1327
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: Relationship with the artists.

1328
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, not for sure, but yeah we won't get you

1329
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: down your your Wayne rabbit hole of overration.

1330
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: So I love Wayne Man, but you know, it's just

1331
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: like you said, just the output. Sometimes it's like we

1332
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: didn't need that verse in and we didn't need that

1333
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: you know song or that mixtape, Like we just didn't

1334
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: need that.

1335
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: You don't have, uh, the craziest output that he doesn't

1336
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: get flak for and I'm not here in any way

1337
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: to give this legend flack, but Snoop does not give

1338
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: have the same rules that we put on M and

1339
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Wayne and certain certain rappers. When you when you go

1340
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: on Wikipedia, just look at the desography. We're harsher on

1341
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Wayne and M and black Man he was. He was

1342
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 1: with Martha Stewart for that album.

1343
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hey, Martha had something going on on.

1344
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: The legend most things all time listen might even fucking

1345
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm not here to ever take down a legend that way.

1346
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we move the goalposts for certain rappers

1347
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: with certain output I agree.

1348
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: I agree. That's just like Snoop is on that list.

1349
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: He's on that list of Like, yo.

1350
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't even think you don't realize Snoop's output. Snoop

1351
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: may had forty five albums.

1352
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1353
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when it was Snoop lyon, like once you

1354
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: got the Snoop Lion, I was just like, yeah, I

1355
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna just I'm gonna just chill on.

1356
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: I didn't really go down to Snoop line like campaign.

1357
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: I didn't really. I wasn't a part of that one do.

1358
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: We put Kanye in the ones that like leaked or

1359
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: were on a stem player, Like we've never talked about

1360
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: those modern rules of like yeah, I mean Dona two does.

1361
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: It's in my iTunes, but it's not on streaming, you

1362
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: know what it is.

1363
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: I think I think with Kanye, because we can point

1364
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: to he just changed as a person and mentally and

1365
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: things like that, how.

1366
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: He changed the person. I think his focus of who

1367
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: he is as a person changed.

1368
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I means he changed. Yeah, yeah, he changed. You know,

1369
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: he mentally, he changed.

1370
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: He reacted to things that he in the same way

1371
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: he would have just you know, George Bush hates black

1372
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: people is the same Kanye as now, it's just different

1373
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: words coming up.

1374
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: But that but that would be yeah, I hold my

1375
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: statement true. He changed, you know what I'm saying.

1376
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: And so that's what I think we could kind of,

1377
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: you know li Liken that too us, Like, yeah, Kanye

1378
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: just became a different version of himself. So naturally the

1379
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: art and the music changed along with that. But I mean,

1380
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I could look at a

1381
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: Kanye album but like that was trash.

1382
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: That was why I mean, Yay was probably the only

1383
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: one that by Kanye's standards. By Kanye standards, I call trash.

1384
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: Vultures one. I did like Vultures too.

1385
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that ended up on DSPs

1386
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: or it was just a leak. But but but there's

1387
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: still not you know, there's still not comparable, like to

1388
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: a graduation to Pablo even latter part of the career

1389
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: yeases everything, it doesn't compare to that. Like it's still

1390
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: the way we kind of look at M with certain stuff.

1391
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: Like if you're an M fan, yeah, this is great

1392
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: and I'm glad he's still putting out music, but this

1393
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: is an eminem show. Yeah, his focus is different. So

1394
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: I hope Yay protect his legacy music wise. It's everything

1395
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: else now is subjective to your political views of of

1396
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: protecting his legacy as a person, and that's not my

1397
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: place music wise.

1398
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: I hope he he protects. Listen.

1399
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: Snoop is the most famous rapper probably ever that we

1400
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 3: would see great song, but he started he started it

1401
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: would count one, two, three into the four. We would

1402
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: kill any other rap if they started a verse like that,

1403
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: we would kill any other rapper. Like, let's just be honest,

1404
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: any other rapper starts a verse like that we.

1405
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: Are killing them.

1406
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: But no, but see, to me, that's kind of like

1407
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: when we go back to I don't know if it's

1408
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: on Bag Feel or or episode of like Fab, how

1409
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: people write out lyrics and it's like, nah, big Sean's

1410
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: doper than that you writing out what he said right here.

1411
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: That was the vibe of the song. Snoop came on

1412
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: like the coolest motherfucker you've ever heard in your life.

1413
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: Just because it wasn't lyrical, that wasn't the point of

1414
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: the song.

1415
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm no, I'm not saying it's brott starting a verse

1416
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: like that is correctly.

1417
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell me nothing like uh like, that's basic

1418
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: as fuck, but it's so iconic.

1419
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: But that's the hook. That's the melody to the hook.

1420
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: I had a dream I.

1421
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: Could by my way to heaven when I woke, I

1422
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: spent it on a necklace hard hard am.

1423
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't know where you was trying to go with that.

1424
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: That is a fucking barreda that's starting your verse like

1425
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: that is a dream.

1426
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 3: That's a fucking bomb. Like I've never heard a rapper

1427
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 3: say that. Yeah, he would never heard a rapper say

1428
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: that or anything close to that. It's basic but profound,

1429
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: incredible way to start a fucking first.

1430
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: And not to like try to make it too deep.

1431
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: The introduction of Snoop, Doggie Dog and Doctor dre Is

1432
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: at the Door, that's kind of a metaphor of what

1433
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: the fun was about to happen, Like it's almost to

1434
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: the to the the eminem intro of high Kids, Do

1435
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: you like violence?

1436
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen me stick nine inch nails through

1437
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: each one of my eyelids? Like, who the fuck is this?

1438
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 1: It was like it was the introduct to what would

1439
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: end up being such a legendary career like Snoop Doggie

1440
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: Dog and Doctor dre Is at the Door, and Han.

1441
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: Said, yes, it was. It was.

1442
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: It was incredible to instead of coming the eighties had

1443
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: very basic bars.

1444
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: No for sure, I don't anyone say.

1445
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 3: I get it, but that's that's the start, and it's

1446
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: like one, two, three into the four I was like,

1447
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: when you go back and listen to this, like, nah,

1448
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: we were supposed to give him more flak for that one.

1449
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 3: Just starting networks like that incredible song, iconic, legendary song,

1450
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: but just starting to like that. When we look back,

1451
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: it's like somebody in the students like, yo, we sure,

1452
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: we're keeping that all.

1453
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: But he started to spas after Oh no, drag listen,

1454
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: because none of y'all gave D m C any fucking

1455
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: flak for uh des for never dirty, MCS for mostly clean.

1456
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: That's just as bad as one not hell no, hell

1457
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: no MCS for mostly cleaning.

1458
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: At the intro of the verse, like come on, bro,

1459
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: come on, like I get it, but like come on,

1460
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: like you said in hindsight, incredible the way the careers

1461
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 3: panned out, but it's just like when you just listened

1462
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: to it at first, it was like, yeah, it was

1463
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: more than the music and the vibe that we kind

1464
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 3: of was like into. But just like from rap stand,

1465
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: it's kind of like you counted, but.

1466
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that kind of like represented that West Coast

1467
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: funk sound where it was so cool and laid back,

1468
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: where New York was so fucking aggressive and d like

1469
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: that was the vibe like it was on some just

1470
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: laid that one two, three into the four ship Like.

1471
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: This is almost too easy, like matched what was going on?

1472
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, but I mean going

1473
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 1: from one, two, three four to sexual seduction?

1474
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean what arrange? Listen, man, listen. That's why he Snooped.

1475
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a pastor from one album too? Of course?

1476
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 3: Definitely sooner got out there somewhere. Listen, Snoop is a vampire.

1477
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 3: I'm convinced. I'm convinced snoopers eight hundred ninety two years old, Like, like,

1478
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 3: is he's a vamp?

1479
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: Bro?

1480
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 3: I just watched Snoop analyze the fucking Clippers and Warriors

1481
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: game on Peacock the other night.

1482
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, what fucking movie in my wife? This

1483
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: is bro?

1484
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: It was like it almost didn't seem like this was real, Like, bro'

1485
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: this is he stood trout for murder like this dude,

1486
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: Like this is the same guy that stood trout when

1487
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr was getting ejected, Like the way he was

1488
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: analyzing that, he said, hold on backup, cud Like, I'm like, bro,

1489
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: this is TV A watch like this is Snoop analyzing

1490
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 3: a real NBA game.

1491
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

1492
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Snoop was never really a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. That

1493
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: Jersey meant something else.

1494
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Snoop Man. Definitely the most famous

1495
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 3: rapper that we've ever had in our culture, for sure.

1496
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: And just as far as entertainers, probably he's probably his

1497
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: top five entertainer career Walterime.

1498
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, he's like he's given, He's selling us beer,

1499
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: real estate. He loves the kids.

1500
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: He we foot the biggest Pop Warner league again in California.

1501
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: Bro, what is it like he's eight, He's ninety thousand

1502
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: years old.

1503
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling you, did you ever watch the doc

1504
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: with his Pop Warner shit? Yeah, he's flying him up

1505
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: to Seattle. He's cursed, cursing out kids and getting into

1506
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: the league.

1507
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a Snoop.

1508
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: Dogg incredible man, the way he was able to turn

1509
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: turn around his skod because again, you know, I remember

1510
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: from the beginning and you know, looking back to things

1511
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 3: that Snoop went through.

1512
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: And you know his career and his life to where

1513
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 2: he is today.

1514
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know the Snoop Dogg documentary of movie,

1515
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 3: docu series, whatever it is, it's going to be incredible

1516
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: to sit back and just watch that and really, you know,

1517
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: appreciate the life and the career that he's been able

1518
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: to build for himself. Because without a doubt, Snoop Dogg

1519
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: is in an incredible icon.

1520
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love like, how long and we can

1521
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: close this, but how long his career has been that

1522
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: the NBA is not even going to look into his

1523
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: past of like this guy's had a shady doesn't matter,

1524
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: Like there is a song that murder was the case.

1525
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

1526
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: All of that is like you he was with a

1527
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: little half dead like Yeah, I mean I get it.

1528
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1529
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: What if any other person had that type of career

1530
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: in this era, they could never commentate for the NBA.

1531
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,919
Speaker 2: Never, It would never have first turn your first.

1532
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 3: Album Doggy Style to now analyzing NBA games on.

1533
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: It's just like, bro, that is just that. Life is

1534
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: fucking incredible. Absolutely. I'm glad we did a cool little

1535
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: music pod yea, But yeah, I'd like to produce it

1536
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: a little more often throughout the year. Man.

1537
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: It's always good to tap in and kind of pick

1538
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: your brain and see what you're thinking about rap.

1539
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1540
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: Still, then watch the astaff Rocky punk Rocky music video.

1541
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: But I'm going to I'm sure the visuals insane. Yeah,

1542
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: is he on some punk rock ship? Is that what

1543
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: I was saying? Okay, all right, that's what Rocky doing,

1544
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: all right.

1545
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: As soon as possible, respectfully to his wife, it was

1546
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: more so you know, the photo lighting and you know,

1547
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the the the product behind.

1548
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at it. I'm winning.

1549
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: Only to that of the two photos that Rihanna posted

1550
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: yesterday was mainly right now. I just I appreciator of fabric.

1551
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, great underwear. Three kids.

1552
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah listen man, we out here to be saved, be blessed.

1553
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 3: I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger Peace.

1554
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: No,