Speaker 1: McKinnon has hit up running back first down and goal
Speaker 1: to go play action.
Speaker 2: Fake right touchdown Jacksau City a Cole Hartman, A Cole
Speaker 2: Hartman with the Cats on the right side, a free
Speaker 2: yard touchdown passing overtime. Kansas City wins the game twenty five,
Speaker 2: twenty two.
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs Kingdom has started its own history class
Speaker 1: because for the first time in six thousand, nine hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four days, there is a back to back
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion and it is the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: champions of Super Bowl fifty eight. On the heels of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven, the Chiefs win in overtime.
Speaker 3: Mitch holt Is with the call Chiefs Radio Network. They
Speaker 3: done it again, the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes to
Speaker 3: Mi Cole Hardman three yard touch Yes me, Cole Hardman
Speaker 3: three yard touchdown pass with three seconds left in overtime.
Speaker 3: Chiefs rally past the Niners twenty five to twenty two
Speaker 3: in Super Bowl fifty eight. They are the first repeat
Speaker 3: champion in nineteen years and I have a chance to
Speaker 3: be the first team ever next season to three peat.
Speaker 3: Dan hanss here with Greg rosen Fall Mark Sessler, we
Speaker 3: are Heroes Bowl.
Speaker 4: The backdrop we are in the.
Speaker 3: End zone, coming right behind the end zone where Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes hit Hardman to win the Super Bowl in another
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, MVP boys, And what a treat overtime.
Speaker 5: For so much of this game, we're talking to you
Speaker 5: other being like, no, this's kind of a boring Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Let's pick it up here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And once that fourth quarter started, really the end.
Speaker 5: Of the third, once the Chiefs got that touchdown, it
Speaker 5: was an all time classic. And I just think of
Speaker 5: how this season played out for the Chiefs and how
Speaker 5: his teammates and their struggles in a sense made him
Speaker 5: have to be a game manager. And this was the
Speaker 5: conversation with Purty all season, like game changer, game manager.
Speaker 5: And what I saw tonight out of Mahomes was what
Speaker 5: I've seen out of the best quarterbacks in the history
Speaker 5: of the game, which is that he did everything that
Speaker 5: needed to be done in the moment that needed it
Speaker 5: to be done.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't flashy plays.
Speaker 5: It was the right decisions on the last drive of regulation,
Speaker 5: it was obviously the right decisions of when to run
Speaker 5: in overtime, and him just being calm, being patient when
Speaker 5: he needed to being aggressive when he needed to and
Speaker 5: just always doing the right thing, because that's what great
Speaker 5: quarterbacks do.
Speaker 7: It was almost like a microcosm of their season because
Speaker 7: the Chiefs in the first half stuck in mud, three punts,
Speaker 7: a big fumble that caused the mystomic a big problem,
Speaker 7: and they get out of there with a field goal,
Speaker 7: and you're lucky at that point to be down ten
Speaker 7: to three at the half, and then over their final
Speaker 7: four possessions, the Chiefs scored nineteen points and it's sort
Speaker 7: of the way they close their season in the playoffs.
Speaker 7: And I feel like it was just a year ago
Speaker 7: that we were in Arizona and I was thinking to
Speaker 7: myself and saying on our Super Bowl recap show that
Speaker 7: there's this inevitable nature to Patrick Mahomes and to the
Speaker 7: Chiefs in general, and it's like it happened again. And
Speaker 7: I can't help but flip the script and think of, like,
Speaker 7: my gosh, it happened again to Kyle Shanahan. It's the
Speaker 7: second time that the Niners had a ten point lead
Speaker 7: on Mahomes. It's the fourth Super Bowl the Mahomes faced
Speaker 7: a ten point deficit.
Speaker 8: He's won three of them. He did it again tonight.
Speaker 7: So there is this inevitable sense that the Chiefs will
Speaker 7: always find a way.
Speaker 3: And I know where you're coming from, Greg when you
Speaker 3: call him the game manager, But I find it disrespectful
Speaker 3: because he's a game general. Nay, he's a game commander.
Speaker 3: He is someone that can do everything. If you need
Speaker 3: him to be smart with the football, nobody's better. If
Speaker 3: you need him to take risks and be a downfield gunslinger,
Speaker 3: he's done that much.
Speaker 6: Decision maker. And you're trying to.
Speaker 3: And I respect where you're coming You're trying to change
Speaker 3: a stigma a little bit, o Mander. But what Mahomes
Speaker 3: did again and seeing him, they ran it, by the way, the.
Speaker 4: Same Andy Reid, that son of a gun.
Speaker 3: They run the same play that they ran to get
Speaker 3: the big touchdown to Tony in last year's Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: but substituting Tony a healthy scratch in this game with
Speaker 3: me Cole Harbman, a guy that they said bye bye
Speaker 3: to who goes to the Jets, bombs out. They move
Speaker 3: him and he lands with kse and then makes the
Speaker 3: you know, one of the biggest catches in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 3: It's an amazing story and to see it right in
Speaker 3: front of us. It's a reminder again how lucky we are.
Speaker 3: And also to see him running Mahomes through the back
Speaker 3: of the end zone and then up the far sideline
Speaker 3: and just the first thing that came to my mind
Speaker 3: is this is this is the guy I think when
Speaker 3: you look at what he's done now in seven years.
Speaker 3: And he said in the week radio row that this
Speaker 3: was such a huge moment for Mahomes and reed for
Speaker 3: them now to both get another title, it's unreal. And
Speaker 3: he's absolutely in the conversation greatest of all time.
Speaker 4: I think he's twenty eight years old by kickoff next year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I mean he.
Speaker 7: Had that incredible twenty two yard run that called back
Speaker 7: the run he had against the Eagles a year ago
Speaker 7: and the wide open Mikol Hartman touchdown this season. MGS
Speaker 7: noted that he had eight more touchdowns to wide open
Speaker 7: wide receivers than.
Speaker 8: Anyone in the game. Like it's like they are scheming
Speaker 8: them up perfectly.
Speaker 7: It won them the Super Bowl a year ago, it
Speaker 7: happened again today and I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I just look at this team and.
Speaker 7: It's like the way at the half Travis Kelsey had
Speaker 7: one catch for one yard and we were talking about
Speaker 7: the fact that he, you know, marched up to Andy
Speaker 7: Reid with vitriol and anger and shoved his coach. It's
Speaker 7: like that seemed like it could have become the story
Speaker 7: of the game if they continue to melt instead, that
Speaker 7: feels like fourteen years ago at this point, right.
Speaker 5: The second half starts with then throwing a pitch to
Speaker 5: Pachecko and they take a two yard loss on a fumble,
Speaker 5: and then Mahomes throws one of the worst passes of
Speaker 5: his career for an interception. And the Chiefs defense was
Speaker 5: such a big part of this. We'll get to them,
Speaker 5: but the two turnovers that the Chiefs had, the Chiefs
Speaker 5: defense then steps up with a three and out immediately
Speaker 5: and doesn't make it count. But while we're kind of
Speaker 5: just talking Mahomes in the game management like it does
Speaker 5: feel inevitable that this all happened, and yet there were
Speaker 5: so many little parts of the game. And when I'm
Speaker 5: thinking of that last drive, he gets the ball back
Speaker 5: in regulation needing three points one fifty three to go,
Speaker 5: and they got the ball to the forty nine ers
Speaker 5: forty three in no time at all, in less than
Speaker 5: a minute, And that was where he was being patient.
Speaker 5: He was taking nine yards, three yards, twelve yards, eight yards,
Speaker 5: so he wasn't going for these chunk plays. He's taking
Speaker 5: what's there. But they did it very quickly. They got
Speaker 5: out of bounds, they didn't use their timeouts there. Then
Speaker 5: you get into overtime. A couple of different spots there,
Speaker 5: the third and sixth, the or she Rice. That was
Speaker 5: a really nice catch where Mahomes is under pressure. That
Speaker 5: was not like a given if if they don't get that,
Speaker 5: you're at fourth and six with the season on the line.
Speaker 5: You have a fourth and one, you need one yard
Speaker 5: and the and the game stops and we're like, what's
Speaker 5: Sandy Reid gonna do in this spot?
Speaker 6: He goes back to that Reid option.
Speaker 5: I think it was Chase Young that they took advantage
Speaker 5: cutting inside the third and one. He knows exactly when
Speaker 5: to scramble, like just every decision, even the Kelsey catch
Speaker 5: at the end of regulation that set up the chip
Speaker 5: shot at that point. If they did not pick up
Speaker 5: that first down, that's a fifty yard field goal for
Speaker 5: Bucker just to keep the game alive with some time there.
Speaker 5: And each time it's like those were the passes that
Speaker 5: are exactly on the money.
Speaker 6: That's why he is. He's the best player I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Next Gen Stats had an incredible stat on that Kelsey reception,
Speaker 3: that catch and run that he reached something about I
Speaker 3: think nineteen point eight miles per hour as as fastest
Speaker 3: he had run on a catch since twenty eighteen. And
Speaker 3: that's that is adrenaline. That's super Bowl. That's just that,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a different world. And the fact
Speaker 3: that Mahomes, you know, when you talk about who's and
Speaker 3: we don't want to overlook Tom Brady and that, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're Patriots fans yelling is they're listening, like
Speaker 3: shut up about Mahomes being the best ever because Brady
Speaker 3: won seven and Brady had massive moments like this too,
Speaker 3: and that's true. So I really don't want to have
Speaker 3: that conversation, but I just want to point out that
Speaker 3: for Mahomes, the way he's so calm and collected in
Speaker 3: these spots, as Brady was, as Joe Montana was, that
Speaker 3: always sticks with me watching these games.
Speaker 4: There's not a moment of panic.
Speaker 3: Here is Patrick Mahomes on CBS after the game talking
Speaker 3: about where the Niners now are in history, and by
Speaker 3: the way, Patrick Mahomes seven and zero in the playoffs
Speaker 3: over the last two years with two titles and fifteen
Speaker 3: and three in his remarkable career seven seasons in.
Speaker 6: So is it a dynasty now, Yeah, it's a start
Speaker 6: of one. We're not done.
Speaker 9: I know we're gonna celebrate tonight, celebrate the pride Winnsday,
Speaker 9: Kansas City.
Speaker 4: We're not done.
Speaker 6: Who got a young team. We'll keep this thing going.
Speaker 7: I'd also say that Mahomes has won these Super Bowls
Speaker 7: where it's not the same star studded lineup in each
Speaker 7: of these victories.
Speaker 4: It's different types of teams.
Speaker 7: And I think you're right to call him a game
Speaker 7: manager in a positive sense and that he had to
Speaker 7: be a different type of quarterback with different players around
Speaker 7: in this season. It's like their defense I think saved
Speaker 7: them in the first half. Absolutely, I got them out
Speaker 7: of trouble. But it's like, look at who he's surrounded.
Speaker 7: If you were to pair of these two teams and
Speaker 7: you were to put an offensive lineup of like the
Speaker 7: All Star team, it's like it's heavily favoring the Niners
Speaker 7: and it's not favoring the Chiefs, and it doesn't really
Speaker 7: matter because Patrick Mahomes doesn't really care who's on the.
Speaker 5: Team, right, And there's that one great throw he had
Speaker 5: to Hardman, which we had a great view.
Speaker 6: We watched this game in two different spots.
Speaker 5: We were in the auxiliary press box, which is basically
Speaker 5: up in the third deck for the first two and
Speaker 5: a half quarters of.
Speaker 8: The game, ash together.
Speaker 5: Right, and that throw from that angle, actually it was
Speaker 5: absolutely perfect to see that gorgeous. He had no business
Speaker 5: throwing that ball because Hardman's bracketed both sides. But it's
Speaker 5: such an impossible throw and Hardwin makes a different play.
Speaker 5: But other than that, you don't think of like incredible
Speaker 5: athleticism in the way that we did in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 5: in his first season as a starter twenty nineteen when
Speaker 5: he won the Super Bowl for the first time. And
Speaker 5: that's why you think Mahomes is thinking, yeah, we're just
Speaker 5: getting started. Because this skill set where he's winning up here,
Speaker 5: along with that incredible arm he has, is gonna age
Speaker 5: well are you doing it?
Speaker 4: What? Hey? He's reaching the point in his career.
Speaker 3: But in the mental side that is actually is catching
Speaker 3: up with the physical.
Speaker 5: That is it Brady's accomplished the most ever, no one
Speaker 5: in the history of the NFL's had a first seven
Speaker 5: seasons of their career like Patrick Wilmes.
Speaker 6: It's not even close. It's not an argument.
Speaker 5: It's the best start to a season any players ever
Speaker 5: had seen.
Speaker 3: This could we don't know, You never know. This could
Speaker 3: be the last time he's ever on the stage. That
Speaker 3: weird things have happened.
Speaker 7: But that's why I think Adam bob lands on the
Speaker 7: United States, I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: As Dan Marino in nineteen eighty four, what he would
Speaker 3: have thought many But that's.
Speaker 7: Like the difference between Dan Marino's career, who was thought
Speaker 7: to be the best in certain a certain light, and
Speaker 7: what Patrick Mahomes has done is like completely unprecedented.
Speaker 4: I it's remarkable.
Speaker 3: And he finished thirty four of forty six, three hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty three yards average, seven point two yards per attempt,
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, that one ugly pick pass rating ninety nine
Speaker 3: point three.
Speaker 4: And you know, I got to give credit to.
Speaker 3: His receivers because they didn't build the best skill goop
Speaker 3: around him this year. We know that even throughout the
Speaker 3: playoffs and even through certainly half of this game, it
Speaker 3: was apparent that they're still missing Tyreek Hill or someone
Speaker 3: that can really make things easier for Patrick Mahomes, which
Speaker 3: makes his achievements even greater. But I look down at
Speaker 3: you have Kelsey, even though he's one for one at
Speaker 3: the half, he finishes nine for ninety three on ten targets.
Speaker 4: But then he pretty much spreads it out.
Speaker 3: Three catches for Hardman, three for Justin Watson, six for
Speaker 3: thirty nine for Rashi Rice.
Speaker 4: But Chaigo has six.
Speaker 3: For thirty three, No great two for twenty two mvs.
Speaker 3: Three catches Jared McKinnon two remember a drop.
Speaker 5: Yes, and exactly Watson had one where the ball was
Speaker 5: a little behind him.
Speaker 6: I remember that.
Speaker 4: Under so undercard these guys.
Speaker 3: There's a certain ceiling with many of these guys, and
Speaker 3: maybe even with Kelsey at this point in his career.
Speaker 4: But uh, they maxed.
Speaker 3: Out what they were able to do, and I think
Speaker 3: you have to give them credit as well, because it's
Speaker 3: not just Mahomes like that. The Rashi Rice catcher yet
Speaker 3: overtime is a perfect example. Was it overtime or the
Speaker 3: end of the fourth quarter that was overtime? You know
Speaker 3: that ball could have went through his hands, it was
Speaker 3: up there, you know, like that is these and the
Speaker 3: pressures at the highest levels, and these guys made the
Speaker 3: catches and got it done. So a great, great performance
Speaker 3: by the offense after a slow start, and the defense
Speaker 3: did what the defense did all year long.
Speaker 7: And a couple of plays before that Nicole Hartman game winner,
Speaker 7: there was the Kelsey catch right up the gut of
Speaker 7: the field where it looked like he had one or
Speaker 7: two yards and he just barreled and created a pile
Speaker 7: and went right down to the goal line.
Speaker 4: Almost. It's like Kelsey is part of this too. It's
Speaker 4: like his.
Speaker 7: Fastest run time comes and this game after we were
Speaker 7: saying he lost a step all year long. It's like
Speaker 7: everything that we were complaining about and feeling nagged about
Speaker 7: with the Chiefs just vanished in the last month right then.
Speaker 4: And that's what the great teams do.
Speaker 5: YEA that extra year he had, he had a couple
Speaker 5: of crucial third doctor version so did Rice. I was
Speaker 5: annoyed though, that that Kelsey play in the red zone
Speaker 5: where they.
Speaker 6: Almost you know, won the Super Bowl there. I had
Speaker 6: the phone up, We're just we're got a great spot.
Speaker 6: This is a game.
Speaker 5: This is the game day morning spot that that they
Speaker 5: taped that during the show, and I had my phone
Speaker 5: up for that play and I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 5: is gonna be amazing. Kelsey's gonna win the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: That didn't happen. Then forgot to have it up for
Speaker 5: the Mkole Hardman Super Bowl winning.
Speaker 4: I'll send it to that just to correct you.
Speaker 7: It's the around the NFL set where Game Day Morning
Speaker 7: filmed earlier today.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great point. In fact, there's the back
Speaker 3: of my chair. There's a piece of tape that says
Speaker 3: Rich on it. If we could get Dan put over
Speaker 3: the Rich tape, I would appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Eric h over there in the corner.
Speaker 5: So you mentioned Spagnolo them doing it like they did
Speaker 5: it all season, and I think of a couple plays
Speaker 5: in this game for Spagnolo to do what he did
Speaker 5: all season. Two monster third downs. It's a two minute
Speaker 5: warning in regulation. It's it's almost easy to forget now.
Speaker 5: It feels a long time ago. The score is sixteen
Speaker 5: to sixteen. It's third and four. The forty nine ers
Speaker 5: have the ball. If the forty nine ers get four
Speaker 5: yards on that play, they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Very likely.
Speaker 5: I mean, the Chiefs could have used all their timeouts
Speaker 5: and they could have gotten no yards. You could maybe
Speaker 5: it doesn't happen, but basically it's third and four. You
Speaker 5: get just four yards, you don't need a touchdown on
Speaker 5: the play, and you win the Super Bowl. Spag sends
Speaker 5: pressure there. It's Trent McDuffie. He gets in clean. It
Speaker 5: felt like Trent mcduffee was blitzing this whole game. They
Speaker 5: blitz more than fifty percent of the time. He gets
Speaker 5: out there right away. Perty really has no chance on
Speaker 5: that play. Great job. Then in overtime Perdy makes a
Speaker 5: couple great plays on that drive.
Speaker 6: Nice throws, had like a hesitation.
Speaker 5: Where he got Krloftus on him, got him to down
Speaker 5: to the fifteen.
Speaker 6: I thought Perty was fining this game. He played well.
Speaker 5: Third and four again season on the line, can you
Speaker 5: stop them from getting a touchdown? Chris Jones gets in
Speaker 5: totally clean. They sent the house all game. And who
Speaker 5: is that on? Is it on the forty nine ers coaches?
Speaker 5: Is it on Purty? Is it on the offensive line
Speaker 5: like or is it just giving Spagnol the credit for
Speaker 5: winning in big spots. I'm not smart enough to really know,
Speaker 5: but I do know Spagnola won in those spots. Perty
Speaker 5: had a wide open receiver on that play that he
Speaker 5: had no chance to get it to because the pressure
Speaker 5: was on him right away.
Speaker 6: And that's that wins the super Bowl. That's the different sphere.
Speaker 7: There were a couple of huge plays like that, and
Speaker 7: they had eleven hurries and a bunch of those came
Speaker 7: from defensive backs.
Speaker 8: And we've been seeing that from from Spags all year long.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if it went on like we
Speaker 7: had Colleen wolf done on the field the first person
Speaker 7: she interviewed with Spags and it's like, by the way,
Speaker 7: this is like I'm not calling it like you know,
Speaker 7: a Ryan moment with Ditka, but it's like he is
Speaker 7: what he is the reason they got here just as
Speaker 7: much now.
Speaker 4: And that's it still scratch scratch my head.
Speaker 3: Why no one even snipped around him as a head
Speaker 3: coach when you talk about and we can talk on
Speaker 3: this at the end of the show, all right, well
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick doesn't have a job either. When we talk
Speaker 3: about some legacy stuff, uh, and what the Chiefs can
Speaker 3: do going forward, we'll get to that because Spags is
Speaker 3: coming back as is read as.
Speaker 4: His mahomes as is as is Kelsey.
Speaker 3: Some stats about this Chiefs defense and then we'll take
Speaker 3: a break and we'll do a little talk from the
Speaker 3: Niner side of things. Brock Purdy completed twelve is nineteen
Speaker 3: attempts against the blitz for one thirty one in a touchdown.
Speaker 4: He got sacked once.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs defense blitz as you said, Greg on fifty
Speaker 3: one point two percent of dropbacks, their fourth highest rate
Speaker 3: in a game under spags.
Speaker 4: So they turned up the heat in a big way
Speaker 4: in this game.
Speaker 3: And one more stat from next Gen, the Chiefs defense
Speaker 3: generated a season high nine unblocked pressures and Super Bowl
Speaker 3: fifty eight, all which came on blitzes. So obviously the
Speaker 3: game plan was to get after party, and I thought
Speaker 3: it was notable late in the game a couple times
Speaker 3: when Specks held back the Dogs, that led to some
Speaker 3: things that were fortuitous for San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Third in twelve in overtime, you're right, hold it, he
Speaker 5: didn't send it and that helped lead the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: That those numbers they sound decent from perty he avoided mistakes.
Speaker 6: I think he played well enough to win. I saw
Speaker 6: take afterwards.
Speaker 5: It was like Shanahan needs a better quarterback to get
Speaker 5: over the hump up like this is not the game
Speaker 5: for it. They know they had this game, not that
Speaker 5: their offense played great, But to me, that was more
Speaker 5: about the coaching. Maybe when Perty's in his eighth year,
Speaker 5: he'll be able to fix protections in a way that
Speaker 5: he can. Now it's hard to say, but that's a
Speaker 5: four point five yards per attempt on those throws plus
Speaker 5: the sack. That is an extremely low number for a
Speaker 5: guy who set the NFL record for yards per attempt
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break and when we return, yes,
Speaker 3: we'll continue to churn through and dig through.
Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty eight.
Speaker 3: I look back on the field behind us, and there's
Speaker 3: still I don't know, I'm gonna say about five hundred
Speaker 3: people littered on the field, confetti everywhere, but it's starting.
Speaker 4: To die down. The tailor swift out there.
Speaker 5: Wait, is that Chris Berman literally live on television on
Speaker 5: a set like fifty yards away from us, maybe even
Speaker 5: less than that. That's how close we are to being
Speaker 5: Chris Berman. For you to really be in the next
Speaker 5: Chris Berman, that's the goal on every way I want
Speaker 5: to be Chris Berman. All right, let's take a break.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back.
Speaker 10: Check it in ten nine Yers up three nine. Perdy
Speaker 10: gonna throw a double pass back to Juwan Jennings. He'll
Speaker 10: throw it back across the field of McCaffrey. He's got it.
Speaker 2: Twenty ten five touchdown, San Fan sits go.
Speaker 1: C mc enter the Dragon Baby six points on a
Speaker 1: trick play.
Speaker 3: By the way, it's time for the Sunday Drive presented
Speaker 3: by the first ever Toyota Grand.
Speaker 4: Highlander oh Man.
Speaker 3: Better times for the forty nine ers on Super Bowl Sunday,
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. The twenty one yard pass from Juwan Jennings,
Speaker 3: who was he was shaping up as a potential Super
Speaker 3: Bowl MVP for a bit in this game. It didn't
Speaker 3: work out, obviously, that was the call from Greg Popa and.
Speaker 4: Tim Ryan of KNBR.
Speaker 3: That play put the Niners up ten to nothing in
Speaker 3: this game, and as Mark pointed out, that is a
Speaker 3: double digit lead that the Niners and Kyle Shanahan in
Speaker 3: his career. It's haunting and it's another haunting loss for
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, Another gut punch loss for the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, who did a lot of things right
Speaker 3: in this game, but once again, when it was time
Speaker 3: to close the game out, when it was time to
Speaker 3: kind of stump, like put your foot on the throat
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs. They kept on letting them off the hook.
Speaker 3: They let them hang around, and eventually it got them.
Speaker 4: Beat they did.
Speaker 7: And it's gotta be gut wrenching for Niners fans to
Speaker 7: process this because it's a team that went three for
Speaker 7: twelve on third down and it really showed. I thought
Speaker 7: that they just didn't make enough of their opportunities to
Speaker 7: go into halftime up just ten to three.
Speaker 4: It should have been more.
Speaker 7: And like we were up there, you know, when we
Speaker 7: were higher up in the stadium thinking there were multiple
Speaker 7: times where you could have slashed the neck of the
Speaker 7: Chiefs and they just could not do it.
Speaker 8: And it's their defense, though.
Speaker 7: After this, after a couple of weeks of like the
Speaker 7: defense being the focal point and the problem played a
Speaker 7: great game early on, they really did. And it's the
Speaker 7: offense I thought that came out and you mentioned is
Speaker 7: it coaching?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 7: Because it's not just on brock party, but they come
Speaker 7: out of the of the second half of halftime with
Speaker 7: three fizzle out punts and it's like that's where in
Speaker 7: that intermittent time the Chiefs started warming up, and I
Speaker 7: want to point to one moment too late in the
Speaker 7: game where it's it was actually in overtime. I want
Speaker 7: to ask your opinion because it's that third and four
Speaker 7: play where Party is pressured on his pass and it's incomplete.
Speaker 7: It's a Chris Jones pressure that I think absolutely sets
Speaker 7: up a Shanahan moment for the Ages.
Speaker 8: Let's listen to the call.
Speaker 4: McCaffrey comes to your notion.
Speaker 1: They fake the jettahem Perty throws it hot and Throver
Speaker 1: throws his receiver incomplete.
Speaker 4: The same time rush Chris Jones.
Speaker 10: Jennings was the intended receiver, but Party had to just
Speaker 10: get rid of the football.
Speaker 4: And now what does San Francisco? Dude, this is interesting.
Speaker 7: At fourth and four, so you know, Chris Jones team
Speaker 7: highs six pressures on the game.
Speaker 8: A game changer right there. I mean, that's today's NFL.
Speaker 7: It's then fourth and four on the KC nine and
Speaker 7: they kick the field goal, which is a very Shanahan
Speaker 7: leverpole right there, and pardon me, was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 7: you could leave the Chiefs on their nine yard line
Speaker 7: if you go for it and you don't get it.
Speaker 7: But do you not just go for it and sink
Speaker 7: a knife into the Chief's heart right here. And instead
Speaker 7: they go for the field goal, and there's you know,
Speaker 7: there's plenty of time left for the Chiefs to come
Speaker 7: back at that point.
Speaker 5: Right that's ot And it really brings up this idea
Speaker 5: that I think in the analytical community community would be
Speaker 5: the rule book, which would be you would defer in overtime,
Speaker 5: and that's so that you kind of know what the
Speaker 5: other team does because the playoff overtime rules are different
Speaker 5: than regulation. Each team is guaranteed to possession even if
Speaker 5: you give up a touchdown, and so in that spot,
Speaker 5: you'd almost love to know if you needed a touchdown
Speaker 5: or not. Now he could have been bold and just
Speaker 5: gone for it. I'm with you, because what are the
Speaker 5: odds we're gonna, you know, stop the Chiefs anyways, we
Speaker 5: need touchdowns. And one of the reasons they were in
Speaker 5: this game is because Kyle Shanahan did a very un
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan move and he did go for it on
Speaker 5: fourth and three down three points.
Speaker 3: My mind, and I know we're living in a Dan
Speaker 3: Campbell world. Now, this is supposed to always be oh well,
Speaker 3: the bot says, you go for it, but it takes
Speaker 3: a serious amount of onions.
Speaker 4: I got to give the c I thought it was
Speaker 4: the wrong move.
Speaker 3: But they have a fourth and three at the Kansas
Speaker 3: City fifteen with well forty six to play. They're losing
Speaker 3: by three points in the in the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 3: they go for it and they throw up their most
Speaker 3: the play that they treasure most, and it's the safest
Speaker 3: play in their mind, the play that will absolutely get
Speaker 3: it done. And it was Brock Purdy, the George Kittle
Speaker 3: who is quiet this game and exit in overtime with
Speaker 3: a shoulder issue for four yards. They pick it up.
Speaker 3: That sets up the Juwan Jennings touchdown. Let's listen to
Speaker 3: that touchdown by Jennings.
Speaker 4: Perdy and a shotgun.
Speaker 10: McCaffrey laughed Jennings, outside of you're right, use check and
Speaker 10: Kittle or chit left? Purdy back Berdy Troll said, is
Speaker 10: cocked by Jawan Jennings breaks a tackle, touchdown, said Trien says,
Speaker 10: go the savior.
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings save dark firsts tight man coverage and Jawan
Speaker 1: is able to shake loose to that first tackle.
Speaker 6: Red ignite and then punch it into.
Speaker 4: The end zone.
Speaker 3: And that that was one Mark one of the multiple chances,
Speaker 3: both early in the game where it was like you
Speaker 3: could have really jumped out to a dominating type lead,
Speaker 3: or late in the game where it's kind of in
Speaker 3: your hands now, And in that case, you're now winning
Speaker 3: because you took the chance and you're rewarded with the touchdown,
Speaker 3: you're winning. In the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: it's closed out time and yet time and time again,
Speaker 3: and the San Francisco forarding on his history in the
Speaker 3: last fifteen years, they just can't find a way.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 7: And you know, we were in the end zone for this,
Speaker 7: and I recorded that Jennings touchdown, thinking now, that's an
Speaker 7: interesting moment to have on tape, But then I press
Speaker 7: pause and stop recording and the pat is blocked. Yes,
Speaker 7: that makes it sixteen thirteen when it would have been
Speaker 7: You know that, then you're forcing.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs to go score a touchdown at that point,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get on Moody because Moody
Speaker 3: also for a brief time for about an hour and
Speaker 3: a half, had the all time record for longest field
Speaker 3: goal before Harrison Bucker bested him. But missing the pat
Speaker 3: getting blocked there Immediately you're thinking, how does that happen,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't like a breakdown in the blocking.
Speaker 4: It was a low kick Pat has to go higher.
Speaker 3: So that's Moody who if you listen to this show
Speaker 3: under the Radar X factors was the kicking game and
Speaker 3: how that would potentially play out, that'd be instead of
Speaker 3: being a four point game, being a three point game
Speaker 3: really set the table in a lot of ways for
Speaker 3: everything that happened after and San Francisco mistakes.
Speaker 4: And Niners fans know it.
Speaker 3: It was really as someone again, it's always bittersweet going
Speaker 3: to these Super Bowls because I always think about what
Speaker 3: it would be like if my team was ever here,
Speaker 3: and how stressful I had this not in my stomachs
Speaker 3: being ten feet away from a largely forty nine Ers contingent,
Speaker 3: And you could say, people say, oh, the forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers fans, they've they've had so much to celebrate and
Speaker 3: they have had a lot of success, but we're going
Speaker 3: on over a quarter century since they won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: You're like a thirty five year old.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 3: Everyone in this section in front of me, for the
Speaker 3: most part, looked like guys and women that were in
Speaker 3: their thirties, twenties forties and so to not be able
Speaker 3: to get it done again. And when you think about again,
Speaker 3: block Pat a muff punt that sets up the first
Speaker 3: Kansas City touchdown on a game where before that happened,
Speaker 3: it wasn't clear that the Chiefs were ever gonna score
Speaker 3: a touchdown because they looked a lot like the Christmas Chiefs,
Speaker 3: like the December Chiefs on offense until they got set
Speaker 3: up on a short field and that kind of kicked
Speaker 3: them into high gear. And then Greg zero points off
Speaker 3: to Kansas City turnovers. So there were so many opportunities
Speaker 3: and they just let these opportunities go to waste. And
Speaker 3: when you do that against Mahomes it may sound like
Speaker 3: a cliche, but you just know you're asking for it.
Speaker 5: You can break down this game in so many different
Speaker 5: ways to fit whatever narrative that you want to have.
Speaker 5: Like the forty nine Ers defense in the end couldn't
Speaker 5: get it done. They couldn't get a stop to win
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, but the first nine possessions of the
Speaker 5: game for the Chiefs resulted in six points. Nine possessions
Speaker 5: is sometimes the whole game. Like if your defense plays
Speaker 5: well enough to give up six points and nine possessions
Speaker 5: and you're the forty nine ers and then granted the
Speaker 5: town against the Chiefs usually, but that is often a
Speaker 5: twenty three to six win and the game's already over,
Speaker 5: and so you fault the offense certainly for not taking
Speaker 5: advantage more during that stretch of the game. But I
Speaker 5: don't want to hear anyone actually kind of come after
Speaker 5: the offense and purty for not coming up big enough
Speaker 5: in the biggest moment, because the reality is they got
Speaker 5: the ball in the fourth quarter trailing and they went
Speaker 5: and scored a touchdown with a fourth down conversion. Then
Speaker 5: they got the ball back again in a tie game
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl with five
Speaker 5: forty six to go, and you're thinking, oh, this is
Speaker 5: legacy drive, this is brock Perdy, can you do it?
Speaker 5: He had a couple very nice plays on that drive.
Speaker 5: You obviously would have loved to pick up that third
Speaker 5: down I talked about earlier, and the drive stalls, but
Speaker 5: you did get a field goal to take the lead
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter when he
Speaker 5: absolutely needs you get the ball in overtime. It's the
Speaker 5: same thing again. I thought that was gonna be the
Speaker 5: CMC drive. CMC ends this game with one hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty yards and a touchdown on thirty touches, and that
Speaker 5: shows his value. And yet in terms of running the ball,
Speaker 5: they didn't really get into a great rhythm the whole
Speaker 5: game until that drive. And it's sometimes these little plays.
Speaker 5: He had a second and four in the reds, you know,
Speaker 5: inside the ten, and I think it was Trevelle Wharton
Speaker 5: and Mike Panell like their deep backup stop them there,
Speaker 5: and they they at that point they decide to throw
Speaker 5: it on the next play. It's like if he kept
Speaker 5: rolling there, if they block a little better there, they
Speaker 5: get a third and one, or they keep running. I
Speaker 5: thought in overtime he was just going to run the
Speaker 5: ball down the field, which is CMC. We've seen in
Speaker 5: them have those drives and they and they just come
Speaker 5: up a play shorts. It's hard to kill any one
Speaker 5: particular part of the team.
Speaker 3: I don't think the offense played well enough though San
Speaker 3: Francisco ultimately we.
Speaker 6: In the final four quarters.
Speaker 3: I mean when you look at when you look at
Speaker 3: this game, you kept on waiting, where was that big
Speaker 3: chunk play, Where was the where was the huge au play,
Speaker 3: The huge Deebo play Kittle?
Speaker 4: Where was Kittle? Most of this game?
Speaker 3: CMC was workmanlike, and I had a lot of respect
Speaker 3: for him because by the end of that game, you
Speaker 3: could tell he was hurting because he's getting thirty touches
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl at the end of a long season.
Speaker 6: These two teams look so tired in person.
Speaker 3: I kept on waiting for McCaffrey even on that last drive,
Speaker 3: and they could have won the Super Bowl potentially, although
Speaker 3: case he's going to get a chance to get the balls,
Speaker 3: the overtime rules are different, which is stupid to me.
Speaker 3: Why can't the uniform McCaffrey could never make that one
Speaker 3: extra guy miss to go fifty yards, and the explosive
Speaker 3: nature to their offense was missing. And I think Party
Speaker 3: plays a role in that too, that he didn't hit
Speaker 3: on a couple of throws as well, and they were
Speaker 3: just missing that little extra special something that a Kyle
Speaker 3: Shanahan play caller with that amount of talent, we're just
Speaker 3: missing that special play.
Speaker 7: I think they ran into a defensive scheme that that
Speaker 7: figured out how to put pressure on Party, how to
Speaker 7: make things difficult, take those big plays away, and you
Speaker 7: know on that overtime drive where they go up at
Speaker 7: the field goal when we've kind of broken down the
Speaker 7: end of that remember outstarted and it was like it
Speaker 7: was very quickly suddenly they were at third and five
Speaker 7: and Purty throws a wobbly incomplete pass, but then defensive
Speaker 7: holding reopens the door. I mean, it's like it wasn't
Speaker 7: a bad call necessarily, it's not that. It's just that
Speaker 7: like that one mistake by the Chiefs. Otherwise this game
Speaker 7: could have been over about fifteen to twenty minutes earlier.
Speaker 5: To your point, Dan on not getting the big plays,
Speaker 5: I uked six targets only forty nine yards long of
Speaker 5: twenty debo eleven targets, and man, I wouldn't have guessed
Speaker 5: this watching it live. I wasn't box score tracking that closely.
Speaker 5: Thirty three yards on three catches long of twelve was
Speaker 5: not healthy.
Speaker 4: In the second half of the game at a hamstret.
Speaker 5: The most open guys in the game were a couple
Speaker 5: big plays by Conley and McCleod. Actually, so those are
Speaker 5: their two star wide receivers, and then Kittle ends up
Speaker 5: with four yards on three targets. It is hard to
Speaker 5: win that way, and they had some next gen stats
Speaker 5: here during the game, and it was really interesting howse.
Speaker 4: Shout out Bill Smith the next gen stat.
Speaker 6: Absolutely getting it done.
Speaker 5: The average tested catches in terms of like the percentage
Speaker 5: of throws that were into tight windows, the Chiefs actually
Speaker 5: had far more throws that were into wide open receivers
Speaker 5: than the forty nine Ers, we who had very few
Speaker 5: throws that were open, which is not what you think.
Speaker 6: And again that's a credit to the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 7: And like there was this one, you know, mysterious injury
Speaker 7: in the middle of the game where you were early
Speaker 7: on where you lose Drake Drake Greenlaw, Like as he's
Speaker 7: coming out into the field, he tears his achilles. All
Speaker 7: Drake green Law is what like the forty nine Ers
Speaker 7: allowed the fewest yards per attempt on targets over the
Speaker 7: middle third of the field since drafting Warner in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 7: and so that like that's green Law as well. So
Speaker 7: it's like to lose green Law. There was I think
Speaker 7: a secret disaster for the Niners.
Speaker 6: Some of those rice catches.
Speaker 5: I think about Noah Gray catches had a couple that's right.
Speaker 3: Where green is and watching that and we're way up
Speaker 3: in the auxiliary box and have no access to television,
Speaker 3: so it's a bit of a weird experience on some
Speaker 3: levels when you're watching the game no internet for half
Speaker 3: the game, no internet for half the game, and then
Speaker 3: when you check your phone and you see Drake Grila
Speaker 3: is just bouncing on on the balls of his feet
Speaker 3: on the sidelight it went in to take the field.
Speaker 4: I think it was maybe the second possession of the game.
Speaker 3: It was early, yeah, and he goes to plant and
Speaker 3: the Achilles just goes which is just unbelievable, and so
Speaker 3: you feel snake bit a little bit if you're the
Speaker 3: Niners at this point.
Speaker 4: Here's Kyle Shanahan, who, like.
Speaker 3: We said, uh, just like we talked about with Lamar,
Speaker 3: and I know it's annoying to the Lamar army and
Speaker 3: everybody else, but you don't get to stop talking about
Speaker 3: the thing until you get that thing off your back,
Speaker 3: and it's the monkey of are you a champion?
Speaker 4: Are you not? Here's Kyle once again falls just short
Speaker 4: on the loss.
Speaker 11: I mean, we all hurt and then everyone knows how
Speaker 11: it feels and don't have a lot of words for it,
Speaker 11: but obviously we're hurting, our team's hurting. But that's how
Speaker 11: it goes when you put yourself out there.
Speaker 4: I'm real proud of our guys for.
Speaker 11: No regress with our team until our guys played so
Speaker 11: hard today.
Speaker 4: Not everything was perfect.
Speaker 11: By no means, but I'm gonna with a group of guys.
Speaker 11: Do with those guys anytime, and I'll take some time.
Speaker 11: We'll get over this and come back next. You're ready
Speaker 11: to go.
Speaker 7: And you can hear in his voice like the true
Speaker 7: emotion in the in the raw like nature of getting
Speaker 7: this far again. And it's like even when they've bowed
Speaker 7: out in the NFC title game, they've been brutal losses
Speaker 7: where they've been close, and you look back and think
Speaker 7: to yourself, you know last year was injuries, obviously, but
Speaker 7: you know in other years it's just like a couple
Speaker 7: of plays here or there, and this game is littered
Speaker 7: with that sense of what could have been had just
Speaker 7: a few moments gone differently for the Niners.
Speaker 8: And it's like Dan, we've now been to and you
Speaker 8: as well, Grog, but like it predates.
Speaker 7: You on by one by one year that like we
Speaker 7: saw them lose and bitter fashion to the Ravens way
Speaker 7: back when different team. Obviously, I was there with you,
Speaker 7: You were there with me. It was it was that's
Speaker 7: that I I.
Speaker 5: Feel actually had West there with a very distinct memory
Speaker 5: with Wes there West not there.
Speaker 4: I was with you. I knew and I was thinking
Speaker 4: all these vivid memories from that one.
Speaker 7: Yes, we had great and we were you know the
Speaker 7: one we like a couple of years ago into the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: It's like you're up by ten late in the game
Speaker 7: and then you know they lose, and then corona happens
Speaker 7: and you're back here and you can change everything. If
Speaker 7: you're Shanahan, you know it's his third the flip it
Speaker 7: were with Mahomes. It's the third time he's been up
Speaker 7: by ten, whether it's a coordinator or a coach.
Speaker 4: And there you go. Here's more sound. Here's Shanahan.
Speaker 3: And why they decided to take the ball first, considering
Speaker 3: the new playoff overtime rules.
Speaker 11: It's just something we talked about with you know that
Speaker 11: none of us have a ton of experience of it,
Speaker 11: but we went to all the analytics and talk to
Speaker 11: those guys, and we decided to be better. We wanted
Speaker 11: the ball third, the both teams matched and scored. We
Speaker 11: want to be the ones who had the chance to
Speaker 11: go win and we got that field goal, so we
Speaker 11: knew we had to hold him to at least to
Speaker 11: a field goal, and if if we did, then we
Speaker 11: thought it was in our hands.
Speaker 4: After that.
Speaker 5: Doesn't really answer the question. I honestly think that it's
Speaker 5: gonna be one of those things. And I forget who
Speaker 5: was the team. I want to say it was the Patriots,
Speaker 5: and then everyone just started deferring of games. I do
Speaker 5: think people will start to do that in playoff overtimes,
Speaker 5: not that you're gonna have a huge sample size. It
Speaker 5: just makes too much sense. I'm not gonna kill Kyle Shannon,
Speaker 5: and I don't think it's the difference.
Speaker 6: In this game.
Speaker 5: You could have made an argument that it helps the
Speaker 5: defense get a little bit of a rest. Certainly that
Speaker 5: Chiefs defense looked tired on that drive. But I do
Speaker 5: think it was an advantage for Kansas City. Like, look,
Speaker 5: they had a fourth and one in their own end.
Speaker 5: Does Andy Reid definitely go for that, probably if it's
Speaker 5: the first possession, but no, he need he knows he
Speaker 5: needs to get a score in that drive, and it
Speaker 5: helped him out.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break and when we get
Speaker 3: back we'll dig into more about this game, what we
Speaker 3: saw and what it means for these teams going forward
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Speaker 9: Got all a quick funny story, a touchdown to just
Speaker 9: dude to the end the game. He looked at me,
Speaker 9: I said, and he had no idea. Dude, we just
Speaker 9: won the Super Bowl. He had no idea. I was
Speaker 9: because he didn't even celebrate at the beginning.
Speaker 7: I'm like, what are we doing to celebrate now?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 3: There it is NFL Network Chris Rose with the interview, Mahomes,
Speaker 3: Why does this always happen?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 3: I feel like this happens like every other year, major
Speaker 3: sports moments in different sports and guys achieved greatness and
Speaker 3: don't even know like the game is over.
Speaker 4: Why are the rules so well?
Speaker 7: I'm also surprised that there wouldn't have been a conversation
Speaker 7: in the huddle like we can win this right now
Speaker 7: if we get this thing done, Like it was just
Speaker 7: that conversation obviously, but we were watching Mikil Harmon make
Speaker 7: the catch, and it is absolutely true that in live action,
Speaker 7: like his body language was like, great that I scored
Speaker 7: a touchdown, but there's probably more to go in this game.
Speaker 4: And it's like, no, the game is over.
Speaker 7: And then like suddenly everyone's running towards him. You could
Speaker 7: see the reaction.
Speaker 3: It was just like probably a pretty like amazing feeling
Speaker 3: when like, bro, it's over.
Speaker 4: We just won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: And you just won. You just caught the game winning
Speaker 6: touchdown in the.
Speaker 7: Super How are you processing all that? It's like in
Speaker 7: the course of five seconds.
Speaker 5: No matter what happens, for the rest of your life, me,
Speaker 5: Cole Hardman, you could be happy that you got traded
Speaker 5: back to the Chiefs or whatever happened for a disastrous
Speaker 5: that for the rest of your life, you will be
Speaker 5: a game winning And by the way, spare.
Speaker 3: Me all the mentions. It's so fun being a Jet fan.
Speaker 3: By all the mentions, like I can't believe you let
Speaker 3: that guy go. He is comfortably on the teet of
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback who's ever lived. So good for him, Bully.
Speaker 3: To me, Cole, I'm happy for him. But the idea
Speaker 3: that we let a great one get away It's great
Speaker 3: that me Cole's back with the Chiefs, because that means
Speaker 3: he's back with Patrick Mahomes, who's allowing to have great moments.
Speaker 7: Wasting their time tweeting that at you You have you
Speaker 7: ever been on Twitter?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 12: I have.
Speaker 4: It's a terrible place, yes, that world.
Speaker 5: I think Coole being the type of guy who didn't
Speaker 5: know it's the end of the Super when he just
Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: It's like one of the reasons he might not If.
Speaker 3: You love that joke, how about like the four hundred
Speaker 3: bozos that sent me the joke last Thursday? Oh wait,
Speaker 3: so a guy almost dying on the field, isn't his
Speaker 3: heart is coming back from playing quarterback for the Jets.
Speaker 4: Nice one? Another Joe Flacco burn against the Jets? That
Speaker 4: funny you should have won?
Speaker 3: All right, let's see, let's see, let's do some odds
Speaker 3: and and some thoughts and takeaways. I'll start with I
Speaker 3: gotta give some love to Chris Jones. I don't write
Speaker 3: the Free Agency one o one, but maybe I'll have
Speaker 3: some conversations.
Speaker 4: With the editor. Maybe a little power play on Rosenthal.
Speaker 4: Oh you just swipe it little. We did have our own.
Speaker 6: We're not we're not taping any shows next week.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: The one O one is due the Wednesday following that.
Speaker 5: So I just want you to know that.
Speaker 4: I'm on it. I'm on it, a little little palace intrigue.
Speaker 3: I'm coming for the one on one, But Chris Jones
Speaker 3: will be the number one player on that list.
Speaker 4: Chris Jones when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3: Whether it's Kansas City that besigns him, I don't know
Speaker 3: how they listen. I never try to figure out how
Speaker 3: a salary cap works, but if you have a five
Speaker 3: hundred million dollar quarterback, I don't care how the contract
Speaker 3: spread out. Chris Jones, I think is going to be
Speaker 3: the highest paid defensive player in the history of the
Speaker 3: sport when he gets his deal right, and if not.
Speaker 4: He'll be very close about it.
Speaker 3: And he showed you in this game why he'll be
Speaker 3: worth every penny because he was a constant menace. We
Speaker 3: talked about the play where he might have saved the
Speaker 3: season with his pressure of rock party.
Speaker 4: Time and time again, he was ruining you were watching.
Speaker 3: One of the cool things about being at the game,
Speaker 3: you could kind of get the All twenty two in
Speaker 3: real time, and there were multiple plays where it felt
Speaker 3: like party if he just had that extra beat, who
Speaker 3: was going to hit Some of those big plays I
Speaker 3: talked about miss it were missing, and they were missing
Speaker 3: in large part because Chris Jones is an absolute menace
Speaker 3: to society and just getting after in the backfield. So
Speaker 3: I don't know what his final numbers were. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like one of those he had four sacks or anything.
Speaker 3: But that's why it goes a little deeper than that.
Speaker 3: He was constantly in the backfield and making plays.
Speaker 5: When you look at the Chiefs playoff wins over the
Speaker 5: last four years, in almost all of them, Chris Jones
Speaker 5: made some massive play on third down to end a
Speaker 5: drive to win the game. To me, he's like a
Speaker 5: rich man's down to high tower who always stepped up
Speaker 5: in the absolute biggest fight. Like he was a good
Speaker 5: player that went to a great player in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Chris Jones is a great player that goes to like
Speaker 5: a first bout Hall of Famer in the playoffs. And
Speaker 5: that's what he'll probably end up being now because of
Speaker 5: everything he's done.
Speaker 6: They're in the regular season, but especially in these.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like that's one reason I as we
Speaker 7: head into the offseason in the narrative change and what
Speaker 7: we focus on changes.
Speaker 8: Last September eleventh, he ended his holdout.
Speaker 7: It's like, I, I don't know why I spent five
Speaker 7: minutes talking about his hold There's no way he was
Speaker 7: not going to play for the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: I remember us being we were pretty smart about how
Speaker 3: we handled the Chris Jones hold out.
Speaker 4: We didn't.
Speaker 7: We were a lot of were It's just still, you know,
Speaker 7: it's still a conversation.
Speaker 3: Here is a here's a stat point backing up how
Speaker 3: dominant he was, even if it didn't register in certain
Speaker 3: categories per Next Gen Stats. Again, and Jones generated a
Speaker 3: team high six pressures on thirty five pass rushes, three
Speaker 3: of which occurred under two point five seconds. So just
Speaker 3: Party snaps the ball, he's not even to the back
Speaker 3: of his drop and he's already being swarmed and you know,
Speaker 3: almost maimed by this fearsome player who's one of the
Speaker 3: best in the league in all timer.
Speaker 5: Like Andy Reid, I thought it was really interesting that
Speaker 5: Kelsey immediately started talking three pet after the game. It
Speaker 5: crossed my mind, could Kelsey retire sometimes this season he's
Speaker 5: moving slowly, he's getting up slowly, forget that, and Reid
Speaker 5: obviously made it clear that he's not going to And
Speaker 5: I know numbers.
Speaker 3: Where did Clark Hutt after the game that he was
Speaker 3: h That was my uh, that was one of my
Speaker 3: sandwich props.
Speaker 4: I think, oh no, it wasn't. No, it was.
Speaker 7: It was my hot prediction for NFL dot Com that
Speaker 7: Read or Kelsey would retire.
Speaker 4: It's like Bury that predictable.
Speaker 5: Quote fully expects Andy Reid to return, and Read's not
Speaker 5: gonna pass Belichick or I don't know know Lombardi in
Speaker 5: terms of Super Bowl titles, but if he wants to
Speaker 5: co for a long time, he can make a run
Speaker 5: at the wins. And considering the influence he's had on
Speaker 5: offenses in this league, I mean, he is getting pretty
Speaker 5: high up there in the greatest all time coaches.
Speaker 7: I yeah, I was gonna mention him too, because it
Speaker 7: kind of reminds me there's two there's different versions of
Speaker 7: of Andy Reid the same way we talk about like
Speaker 7: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in different eras of their career.
Speaker 7: And it kind of reminds me of like when you
Speaker 7: were a kid and you learned that like Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 7: lost eight elections before and failed in business twice before
Speaker 7: he finally won. And it's like Andy Reid went twenty
Speaker 7: seasons before winning a Super Bowl, and so it's like
Speaker 7: we can. I'll flip it around and I'll look at
Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan and say, it's like, how do you come
Speaker 7: back from this? And it's like Kyle Shanahan keeps getting
Speaker 7: there and it's tough to come back, and like there's
Speaker 7: gonna be a lot of questions about like what they
Speaker 7: do and what happens with rock Party and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: I think he absolutely, to me is the dug in starter.
Speaker 7: I want to hear a lot of nonsense around that.
Speaker 7: But Andy Reid, like you go back through some dark
Speaker 7: times with the Eagles and was essentially like escorted out
Speaker 7: by the Eagles in the end, goes to Kansas City
Speaker 7: and like, look where we are now.
Speaker 3: Well, there's all these so many people everywhere you look.
Speaker 3: Every time you turn when you're at Super Bowl weekend,
Speaker 3: it's somebody that you watch on TV or been watching
Speaker 3: your whole life. South pal Antonio of ESPN was We
Speaker 3: shared an elevator up with him up to the auxiliary
Speaker 3: box here in the stadium this morning, and I told
Speaker 3: him that I had a memory. And Sal's been covering
Speaker 3: the NFL forever for ESPN. He covered the Eagles, he
Speaker 3: was kind of their reporter during their McNabb glory years.
Speaker 4: And I remember, like a cold January, them throwing to.
Speaker 3: Sal when they had lost multiple NFC title games. They're
Speaker 3: trying to get over the hump, and he was trying
Speaker 3: to explain, you know how important it was for Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Andy Reid to finally get to a super Bowl, which
Speaker 3: they did and they lost the Pats, But that was
Speaker 3: Reid's legacy for a long time, that he got closed
Speaker 3: but couldn't get over the top. And now all he
Speaker 3: does is get over the top. So you say, like
Speaker 3: he's not going to catch Belichick. Belichick has what six Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's halfway there, and he's got a
Speaker 3: Patrick twenty seven years old. Fair Stranger things. Stranger things
Speaker 3: have happened, That's what That's all I'm gonna And if.
Speaker 7: You don't know Patrick Mahlmes, maybe you do retire. I mean,
Speaker 7: now it's like, why why stop doing this at all?
Speaker 4: You never know?
Speaker 5: This is a random odds but Ben just being live.
Speaker 5: We think the British TikTok guy was right. We got
Speaker 5: to do something about these kickoffs. The whole stadium is
Speaker 5: so live, it suddenly goes from all this noise to
Speaker 5: like this great hush we were, you know, right before
Speaker 5: the opening kickoff. It's so tense, and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 5: here's a play that doesn't even count, and then there's
Speaker 5: like forty five seconds of just looking around.
Speaker 6: It's like such a waste of time.
Speaker 5: Overtime is going crazy and we're all excited, like before overtime,
Speaker 5: the forty nine Yers fans are going wild, and then
Speaker 5: they line up for the kickoff, and oh wait, here's
Speaker 5: a play that actually doesn't count unless it's take a
Speaker 5: forty five second break.
Speaker 6: It's bad. It's legit bad for the sport.
Speaker 5: They got to eliminate the kickoff, or they got to
Speaker 5: change back the rules to make it happen again.
Speaker 8: I like kick Like I just found a new campaign.
Speaker 4: I like that. Yea, the kickoff. You might as well
Speaker 4: not called football anymore.
Speaker 3: You gotta have kickoffs, and you got it and talk
Speaker 3: about you want to talk about something kind of parallel
Speaker 3: to this, They ruin the on side kick and I know,
Speaker 3: I know, And this is where people like.
Speaker 4: Tisk tisk, you don't support player safety.
Speaker 3: It's like, calm down, first of ball, these guys coming
Speaker 3: at you too, Get off your soapbox. Okay, White Night,
Speaker 3: get off your shiny horse. I don't want to hear.
Speaker 3: It is one thing to promote player safety and try
Speaker 3: to figure out ways to make the game safer, but
Speaker 3: if it comes at the expense of the product in
Speaker 3: the obvious way it does, like the kickoff and how
Speaker 3: it's drawing energy out of the game and it makes
Speaker 3: the game worse, maybe there's another way to go about it.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I'm eliminated. Just started the twenty five
Speaker 5: yard line. At least we'd have a play.
Speaker 4: Then we're all right, why don't we just make it
Speaker 4: arena football.
Speaker 8: It's maybe some people like visually arresting about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, and yet like the stadium came to a hush,
Speaker 7: and I thought that, I mean the stadium experience, like,
Speaker 7: this is an incredible stadium and it's really well organized,
Speaker 7: common I thought, like by halftime and I get the
Speaker 7: fans and have a lot to cheer about, and it
Speaker 7: got really loud at the end, but it just seemed
Speaker 7: almost not Super Bowl like to me.
Speaker 4: The first half the game.
Speaker 3: Game was herky jerky early on, not a lot of scoring,
Speaker 3: there's extra commercials And but I felt the same way,
Speaker 3: and I thought, and you had a DJ here, DJ
Speaker 3: cat Eric our restident clubhead.
Speaker 12: It was a cascade where I would give maybe top
Speaker 12: ten for me personally.
Speaker 6: Did you go out this week? And hear any I
Speaker 6: had to.
Speaker 12: Invite to the Gronk Beach party. Didn't make it that
Speaker 12: but it guys busy week.
Speaker 4: I was head. Roberts killed it this week. But ro
Speaker 4: I was talking to Eric.
Speaker 3: We did a walk around the upper deck here before
Speaker 3: the game started and Eric was telling me about.
Speaker 4: His club dates, which we can't get into too much detail.
Speaker 12: Yeah, cascade, very good DJ top ten for me, but
Speaker 12: not my style of music.
Speaker 4: I was going and we didn't get to s though. No, no,
Speaker 4: and that's that's a shame to know how to quote
Speaker 4: family emergency.
Speaker 7: Yes, which I always assume is something others.
Speaker 6: Like intrusive than the rams DJ.
Speaker 4: Oh that's that's yeah.
Speaker 8: So if I could take a note for every five second.
Speaker 3: I felt like there have been in recent Super Bowls
Speaker 3: buildings that were going a little harder, but I think
Speaker 3: the game flow had a lot to do with that,
Speaker 3: because in the second half in overtime, the places going off.
Speaker 3: Speaking of families and crisis or family emergencies, how about
Speaker 3: the families connected to those guys that ran on the field.
Speaker 4: How do you get onto the field in the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: Fe I'll tell you why, though, I think you can
Speaker 7: because we were It's it's not like there was insane
Speaker 7: security down here, and that he came out on the
Speaker 7: sort of back corner end.
Speaker 5: Okay, right, hold that note that they weren't checking to
Speaker 5: go down to the seats.
Speaker 4: I have more thoughts.
Speaker 3: Here's Kevin Harlan, who has the iconic the guy is drunk. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so he had an opportunity. I have not heard this.
Speaker 3: No one's heard this yet. Harlan calling in real time
Speaker 3: two fans, not one, but two running on the field
Speaker 3: in the second quarter of Super Bowl fifty eight.
Speaker 11: The ball which plot in the game was to the
Speaker 11: thirty nine.
Speaker 4: I love Harvey, the.
Speaker 11: Man stopped playing with security all over the interlopers.
Speaker 4: Interlopers. Interlopers is such an underrated he is a poet.
Speaker 3: Underrated. But so here's the thing. How much does it
Speaker 3: cost to go to a game? The Super Bowl a
Speaker 3: couple thousand bucks three ten thousand, So somebody dropped the
Speaker 3: money to get into the building with the sole intention
Speaker 3: unless it was something that was you know, not premeditated
Speaker 3: to get arrested.
Speaker 4: That's a wild you don't talk about all time. Bad decisions, right,
Speaker 4: or maybe the guy was drunk.
Speaker 6: The guy is drunk.
Speaker 7: But I but you're right, unless unless and there was
Speaker 7: guy there was some other plot.
Speaker 4: I want to hear two guys. It was two guys,
Speaker 4: two guys, like I mean, it was a conspiracy.
Speaker 7: Maybe you know, it's one of these things like like
Speaker 7: the Watergate breaking, where like they somehow someone opened a
Speaker 7: back door and in came these two guys without tickets.
Speaker 7: They weren't people that spent twenty grand, so that was
Speaker 7: a little extra entertainment. The other one I'll throw out
Speaker 7: there is the halftime show. Like tow a tucket touch
Speaker 7: on the halftime show on this wrap up, it's fine.
Speaker 3: I thought usher was fine. I give it like a
Speaker 3: solid bee he did. I think one of the moves
Speaker 3: you see with a halftime show sometimes is if you
Speaker 3: don't have, you know, a certain extra gear to make
Speaker 3: it truly special. And very few artists do like Prince
Speaker 3: for instance, playing Purple Rain in the rain. If you
Speaker 3: don't have that not to say I don't love yeah,
Speaker 3: and you get ludicrous out there doing yeah, I'm little John.
Speaker 3: That was the heart of it. But I think they
Speaker 3: sometimes you'll see these halftime actually just like throw something
Speaker 3: against the walls, like all right, throw five hundred people
Speaker 3: out there at the same time, put everybody on roller
Speaker 3: skates and then get the band back there, and then
Speaker 3: have seven hundred more people come from all directions, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of they're trying to like spam you with.
Speaker 3: So I would say, while it was an impressive coordination, uh,
Speaker 3: I would give it, yeah a B.
Speaker 4: I turned to Greg.
Speaker 7: I guess I'm not a big usher person, like I
Speaker 7: was like Greg, honest question, like was that good?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I just don't know what that was.
Speaker 5: And I was like, yes, I think if I think
Speaker 5: it was good, Like he danced his ass off, you know,
Speaker 5: it worked a lot harder certainly than.
Speaker 4: His body is looking great.
Speaker 5: He did look he worked hard like my timeline couldn't
Speaker 5: have loved it more. I think if you were, it
Speaker 5: actually might be his peak.
Speaker 6: I feel like even though we were in our young twenties.
Speaker 5: I feel like, if you're like thirty five to forty,
Speaker 5: like your pe, your peak, people loving it.
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. That's why
Speaker 3: I saw people calling it said I said it was fine.
Speaker 7: I saw people calling it the best halftime show ever.
Speaker 7: And that's kind of what threw me. I'm like, that's
Speaker 7: knows what I.
Speaker 3: Those are simple folk that just see oh there's no
Speaker 3: but they're just like Usher.
Speaker 6: They're just Usher fans.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, how do you know who said that?
Speaker 6: I think if you like Usher, this was an I'm.
Speaker 4: So certain about everything, Greg, because what is it?
Speaker 5: Because like everyone on Twitter that I'm following that was
Speaker 5: just talking about it, Like.
Speaker 4: With everyone that you follow on Twitter.
Speaker 6: That's what we're basing it on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh pretty much. This is our super Bowl? Reader
Speaker 4: going here with our super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's part of the super Bowl, not a spectacle
Speaker 3: of it all. No, but I thought it was fine.
Speaker 3: What would you give it? Go ahead, give me a.
Speaker 6: Grade eight, eight out of ten.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, give us another odds.
Speaker 5: And the one quick thing is that the Kelsey bumping
Speaker 5: reed because I believe he was mad that he wasn't
Speaker 5: on the field.
Speaker 6: I'm glad it worked out that way.
Speaker 5: Like if any Reid was not a man of his carriage,
Speaker 5: if he was, let's say, like Mike McDaniel's size going,
Speaker 5: he's hitting the ground. No, he's not gone, and he's
Speaker 5: hitting the ground, and it's a bigger deal and it
Speaker 5: looks worse.
Speaker 3: It's a massive it's a story that maybe wins the
Speaker 3: Sandwich prople, which we'll get to in a little bit.
Speaker 6: And I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I'm glad it wasn't a big deal. It's football, it's emotional.
Speaker 5: He shouldn't have done it, but it's also like everyone's
Speaker 5: fine with it.
Speaker 6: But I saw a J.
Speaker 5: Brown tweet out if that was me, I would have
Speaker 5: been kicked out of the league, which you know, he's
Speaker 5: got a a little bit of a tongue in cheek,
Speaker 5: but I think he has a point.
Speaker 6: If a J.
Speaker 5: Brown did that, if Stefan Diggs did that, if Terrell
Speaker 5: Owens did that, people's reaction would have been different. So
Speaker 5: just like remember that and keep that same energy when
Speaker 5: people that are really passionate and love the game lose
Speaker 5: it a little bit, like have the same grace for
Speaker 5: them that you have for Travis.
Speaker 4: I totally agree.
Speaker 8: I think there was license because it was Kelsey.
Speaker 7: And then after the game, you know, Read and Kelsey
Speaker 7: are up on the stage together and Kelsey's you know,
Speaker 7: leading the entire crowd in Viva Las Vegas, and it's
Speaker 7: all it's all very kelsey ish and it works, except
Speaker 7: like that moment feels lost in time. And I'm sure
Speaker 7: Read and Kelsey will be fine and call it you know,
Speaker 7: competitive natural that stuff, but it's like.
Speaker 8: You can't, you can't do that to your own code here.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to be overly, you know, officious about it, but.
Speaker 3: Here's kind of a funny thing lost in all the
Speaker 3: week long run up to the game where it just
Speaker 3: gets exhaustive and all these guys are forced to talk
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. Someone asked, I think
Speaker 3: it was Mahomes at media night opening night, like are
Speaker 3: you coach Read's favorite? And they asked Kelsey the same thing,
Speaker 3: and they asked some of the other guys like who's
Speaker 3: coach reads favorite, and a lot of the guys are
Speaker 3: saying Kelsey, And then they asked Mahomes like and he disputed,
Speaker 3: is like, no, I'm coach Read's favorite like and he
Speaker 3: he pointed out it was almost like the the uh.
Speaker 3: Usually it's the younger brother, but in this case, it's
Speaker 3: the older brother that just gets away with murder, like
Speaker 3: he doesn't put in and Mahomes to make his point,
Speaker 3: was saying, like he always shows up just in time,
Speaker 3: Like I'm in the I'm in the building.
Speaker 4: For hours before he gets there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always acting up, and he talks too much
Speaker 3: and all this stuff like Travis Kelcey is, it's kind
Speaker 3: of spoken out loud around it. She's kind of a
Speaker 3: pain in the ass, but because he is who he is,
Speaker 3: that also leads to him getting gray. So yes, it's
Speaker 3: a good thing Andy didn't take a spill or that
Speaker 3: would have been a huge story.
Speaker 7: And I don't know how the TV like bead handle
Speaker 7: the tailor swift thing.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there was a lot of it.
Speaker 7: But I did enjoy the moment when she just like
Speaker 7: they go up to her, and there was a lot
Speaker 7: here in the stadium, like she's just chugging a beer
Speaker 7: like a pro. And I mean she's with the right
Speaker 7: boyfriend for that, because he can do that as well
Speaker 7: with a quite a bit of skill. You know who's
Speaker 7: Jason Kelsey is in our hotel right he walked out
Speaker 7: probably there right now.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, No, he's going to the Chiefs party.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 3: You know when uh, you know when in uh once
Speaker 3: upon a time in Hollywood when you see the Margot
Speaker 3: Robbie character Sharon Tate, Sharon Tate and Roman Plansky returning
Speaker 3: to Lax and it's the slow motion like kind of
Speaker 3: tracking shot of them and they're the most fabulous like
Speaker 3: couple possible and it's fame personify. That's what it looked
Speaker 3: like being right behind Jason Kelcey leaving the hotel on
Speaker 3: the way to get in our car to come to
Speaker 3: the stadium. The guy is a rock star, like who
Speaker 3: is who has enjoyed a better run in terms of
Speaker 3: celebrity than Travis's brother really both Kelsey brothers. And we
Speaker 3: saw their producer uh and our former producer TD in
Speaker 3: the lobby and and uh that was a nice thing too,
Speaker 3: So I guess we're connected.
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 7: It's going to be a tough time for them when
Speaker 7: we when we create one of the larger upsets in
Speaker 7: media and win the iHeartRadio Sports podcast there knocking out
Speaker 7: the Kelsey.
Speaker 4: Got super Bowl three. If we could do that, Ted what.
Speaker 5: He was our producer back when we played that clip
Speaker 5: with Chris eating the softball pants back in the day.
Speaker 4: He went and got all that the meal.
Speaker 3: It all connects, all right, Let's take one more break
Speaker 3: and when we come back, some final thoughts and we'll
Speaker 3: go over our locks and our sandwich props.
Speaker 2: Jeez, Kingdom, we've been fighting for right over there.
Speaker 4: How about a little.
Speaker 7: Vegus lod Vegas.
Speaker 3: There it is cav Skelcey on the field with CBS
Speaker 3: Jim and by the way, Nance come on Bud like
Speaker 3: it's it's this media thing, taboo thing to ask him
Speaker 3: about Taylor, like face to face or even mention her
Speaker 3: when he's singing. You can make a little joke there
Speaker 3: like oh maybe maybe Taylor will have you on the
Speaker 3: next album and then have him Jim a rare drop
Speaker 3: of the ball and then he forces as a follow
Speaker 3: up question at the end. Okay, now sing the Beastie
Speaker 3: Boys song for the seven thousand time.
Speaker 4: We don't need a Jim. It's a missed opporitioneray by
Speaker 4: a pro and I'm.
Speaker 3: Curious we're CBS because again we didn't get the teleguests.
Speaker 3: I'm curious how much restraint they showed with Taylor Swift
Speaker 3: or whether they were like all about it. But we
Speaker 3: had some boots on the ground. We have a new
Speaker 3: rising insider on the videographer ranks.
Speaker 4: You want to get into that one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the weekend got going with my son Luke is there.
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't even know this existed, but he
Speaker 7: has got into something called plane spotting where you you know,
Speaker 7: we live near Lax and like he there's a number
Speaker 7: of places you can go and just you post up
Speaker 7: and the planes are coming like right over you and landing,
Speaker 7: and so you get incredible footage that there are these
Speaker 7: like hobbyists in other parts of the world that don't
Speaker 7: have that access. And like he built this Instagram account
Speaker 7: and TikTok in YouTube and all this stuff, and it's
Speaker 7: blowing up, and it blew up hardcore because he's got
Speaker 7: all this data in like software and apps to know
Speaker 7: exactly what kind of planes are coming in and you
Speaker 7: can see from like miles away, and like he captured
Speaker 7: Taylor Swift's plane landing at Lax before they got up
Speaker 7: and went to Las Vegas. And he went on TikTok
Speaker 7: and got like, I don't even know what the number
Speaker 7: is now, but it was like one point six million
Speaker 7: at some point, and it's it's at lax plane spotting.
Speaker 7: It's easy to find on a nucas when eleven year
Speaker 7: old boy he is thirteen, Yeah, and he's obsessed with it.
Speaker 7: He does it like five six times a week. But
Speaker 7: like he caught the Cardinals plane one time and they
Speaker 7: retweeted him. But no response from Taylor Swift yet, but
Speaker 7: it did do well with the public.
Speaker 6: That is incredible.
Speaker 5: While you're talking sons, this was Walker's first Super Bowl
Speaker 5: good one. I got to bring him to and hang
Speaker 5: out with him ahead of the game, and it's awesome.
Speaker 5: I mean, we are extremely lucky, but to see his
Speaker 5: excitement and just for him to be in the building one,
Speaker 5: I'm that excited, and then to be with him it
Speaker 5: feels amazing. And then we walk in and like Cynthia's
Speaker 5: on the JumboTron doing next Gen stats and then Colleen
Speaker 5: is taking over and was a very big presence of
Speaker 5: the in stadium presentation and it just feels like what
Speaker 5: it just feels like, It's it's crazy that it's the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and yet it feels small for us. We're
Speaker 5: very fortunate even just it's one of the great things
Speaker 5: about being with the NFL is those tickets they give us.
Speaker 6: First of all, it's.
Speaker 5: Like the best perk of all time that you can
Speaker 5: share it, and then for it to feel like a
Speaker 5: home game, that it's like our people, and yet it's
Speaker 5: like presenting the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: It's incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to take two of my friends
Speaker 3: from way back the day, from elementary school days.
Speaker 4: What do you think they're doing right now? I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a long day, supers, a long day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're back of the hotel probably, and I'll
Speaker 3: find out we're going to be heading back ourselves in
Speaker 3: just a few minutes. But I've been able to now
Speaker 3: to take all my best buddies from New York, my
Speaker 3: both my parents, my in laws, brothers, sisters.
Speaker 4: It's been it's to share. This experience.
Speaker 3: Is the super Bowl, not just the game, but the
Speaker 3: whole weekend and being in the city. It's not it's
Speaker 3: not for the meek of heart in terms of financially,
Speaker 3: it's a it's crazy expensive to everything around the.
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and especially you're in Vegas.
Speaker 3: But if you ever, if you're a football fan, if
Speaker 3: you ever get the chance to experience the Super Bowl once,
Speaker 3: it's it's unlike anything else.
Speaker 4: It's it's so fun to to share.
Speaker 5: Though, maybe don't do the Vegas one if you're trying
Speaker 5: not to spend as much money.
Speaker 4: What do we think about Vegas as the super Bowl host?
Speaker 3: It'll be back, it'll be in the Yeah, that in doubt,
Speaker 3: But what did we think about it?
Speaker 5: They handled it all like, well, it's all intense for
Speaker 5: our selfish purposes. It's like, you know, it's tough to
Speaker 5: get a coffee or a breakfast for like less than
Speaker 5: forty dollars or like a thirty minute wait. So that's
Speaker 5: a bit of a tricky spot. But to be it
Speaker 5: all ran well and like it just makes sense.
Speaker 4: That's not the ones run really well.
Speaker 7: And it's like it at least like the very from
Speaker 7: a reporting angle, like I don't like, don't even know
Speaker 7: what it's like to be a fan of these things
Speaker 7: in this way, but like you get to you go
Speaker 7: go from A to B to C to cover various
Speaker 7: It was good relatively you sy to do that. I
Speaker 7: just think in general, like staying in Vegas for like
Speaker 7: six days is not a great plan as a human.
Speaker 3: Not for long term health or living a long life.
Speaker 3: All right, I thought it was good as well. It
Speaker 3: was Saturday, the gridlock was out of control, so yeah,
Speaker 3: there are elements of it that are just kind of
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass.
Speaker 4: But I thought the city was really well clipped equipped.
Speaker 3: And it was kind of the thing that I realized
Speaker 3: when I was thinking about it last night was the
Speaker 3: energy of everybody wanting to have the best time possible
Speaker 3: and being in a really good mood is kind of
Speaker 3: the energy if anyone has ever gone on a guy
Speaker 3: or a girl trip to Vegas with your friends and
Speaker 3: you're in that same headspace. So you're taking that type
Speaker 3: of headspace and then bringing the super Bowl, which is
Speaker 3: kind of the similar thing, and adding it up.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like endorphin wise, it was intense. It
Speaker 6: was like as super bowly vegacy as it gets. It
Speaker 6: was a little intense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was walking the lobby like after two am last
Speaker 3: night and the place like it was five pm.
Speaker 4: Like this is an absurd right, basically beautiful, horrible, insane place.
Speaker 3: Everything rolled together. It's the American experience. All right, let's
Speaker 3: talk about our locks. Greg, you have finished a incredible season,
Speaker 3: and I just want to say congratulations. I mean, I
Speaker 3: believe what did we where did we finish? You locked
Speaker 3: up the Chiefs? I did lock up the Chiefs?
Speaker 4: Did I?
Speaker 3: And I think you finished the season eighteen and four?
Speaker 3: Does that not nineteen and four?
Speaker 7: I believe that's by far the best record of all time.
Speaker 7: It simply has to shatter anything else.
Speaker 4: Eighteen weeks and then what four rounds of playoffs?
Speaker 6: Five playoff weeks?
Speaker 5: I got one playoff wrong for sure, start off unbelievable.
Speaker 3: That's going to be tough. You want to talk about.
Speaker 3: You did repeat his champion. Good for you. You're going
Speaker 3: for three peete as well.
Speaker 4: I'm the Chiefs. Yes, congratulations to you.
Speaker 3: I closed famously incredibly strong after a slow start, and
Speaker 3: I think people will remember that. I think I finished
Speaker 3: after being two games under more than halfway through the
Speaker 3: season to end up where I did.
Speaker 4: Really a lot of people are talking about it.
Speaker 3: One of the great comebacks ever to finish in second place.
Speaker 3: I believe, Mark, you made a different type of history. Yes,
Speaker 3: to get into.
Speaker 7: It, Yeah, I mean I was informed at one point
Speaker 7: that this was like a month month and a half ago,
Speaker 7: I had notched nine wins and it was like, just
Speaker 7: just to let you know. I mean, of course you're
Speaker 7: probably going to continue to win a couple more games here.
Speaker 7: That nine would be the lowest win toed locks in
Speaker 7: the season. And if you think about it, we've been
Speaker 7: doing locks for what ten years or something like, and
Speaker 7: there's always been you know, there were four or three
Speaker 7: people involved, So that's many, many, many participants if you
Speaker 7: think about it. And I never won again. I finished
Speaker 7: with nine wins. I don't even know how many lots
Speaker 7: for the playoffs is Oh, for the play it's got
Speaker 7: hard to do.
Speaker 4: I think from that.
Speaker 5: It's crazy too, because I think, did you have the
Speaker 5: Lions and they like have that big lead, and then
Speaker 5: you have the forty nine ers they have big leads,
Speaker 5: so it just keeps.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm almost I say, from another angle, another point
Speaker 7: of view, it's impressive also, it's impressive.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, you people are talking. People are talking about
Speaker 8: this too, Dan.
Speaker 4: And I'll give yes, people are talking.
Speaker 3: I will say that there was that quiet storm intensity
Speaker 3: in the first half of the game. I could really
Speaker 3: feel you Mark needing the forty nine ers to win
Speaker 3: and Rock Party to fulfill his destiny as an all
Speaker 3: time story. But you you've been a pro and a
Speaker 3: trooper and you haven't taken that into the podcast.
Speaker 7: I mean, we have Jay on our production team, who
Speaker 7: is his entire family is from the Bay Area and
Speaker 7: he had to pretty much be on his feet working
Speaker 7: turning away from the game during a lot of it.
Speaker 8: And he is a hardcore Niners fan.
Speaker 7: This this is his whole family, and you know they melt
Speaker 7: down in a sad fashion and.
Speaker 4: Like he just goes right about his business. That's the
Speaker 4: pro over there. Yeah, great shout out.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jay and everyone behind the scenes, led
Speaker 3: of course by Eric and Matt Schneider and the whole
Speaker 3: team that's made this made this thing go this week,
Speaker 3: this weekend and this week in Vegas market.
Speaker 4: That's your class act. That's all I can say.
Speaker 3: Finally, I agree, let's hit What were our sandwich props?
Speaker 3: A lot of onion hangers. I could tell you mine.
Speaker 3: I said, Kelsey goes over two hundred yards wins MVP,
Speaker 3: I believe. And when he was one for one at halftime,
Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself as I was walking to
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom at halftime, I was like it's
Speaker 3: almost harder, like in terms of what of the odds
Speaker 3: are the odds better that he goes two hundred yards
Speaker 3: or that he could actually finish a game with one yard?
Speaker 3: But anyway, he ends up having a nice second half,
Speaker 3: and but he doesn't approach two hundred yards. So I
Speaker 3: am out multiple sangles.
Speaker 5: Let's talk kind of even out. I have a feeling
Speaker 5: I was not close with my Pacheco. We didn't mention him.
Speaker 5: He ended up with ninety two yards from scrimmage in
Speaker 5: twenty four carries, twenty four touches, including six catches, two fumbles.
Speaker 6: A couple times were live.
Speaker 5: You could really tell he took the wrong angle, didn't
Speaker 5: have good instincts.
Speaker 6: Almost seemed a little tight, didn't you.
Speaker 7: Also, like a couple of weeks ago and form you know,
Speaker 7: America and points beyond that. That's that was the most
Speaker 7: solid Vegas option out there. Yeah, just in general like that,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that did not work out well, only one
Speaker 6: so the.
Speaker 4: Brand doesn't take a hit.
Speaker 3: Smart, Yeah, that's that's a but still Pacheco also cost
Speaker 3: you sandwiches in yours mark.
Speaker 4: Well, another absurd defeat.
Speaker 7: I said that that some sort of event would occur
Speaker 7: because it had been too quiet in Vegas that something
Speaker 7: would happen NFL related that would become a kind of
Speaker 7: story that we tracked for the next three or four months.
Speaker 8: And no right away like this is gonna saddle us
Speaker 8: for like.
Speaker 3: I didn't take you up on it because I felt
Speaker 3: it in the air too. Something would happen this weekend.
Speaker 3: Man if Andy, like God forbid, he trips on his
Speaker 3: feet after Travis pumps.
Speaker 4: Him, and that would have been huge. That's it.
Speaker 3: That would have been like Taylor Swift was jumping up
Speaker 3: and down celebrating, and overtime and ice Spice like falls
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 4: The luxury suite. That would we got to win. That
Speaker 4: would have been it.
Speaker 3: But we didn't get to win and ice ice spice
Speaker 3: though Greg it is safe, Greg likes rap any other
Speaker 3: final thoughts on the game and and where I really
Speaker 3: I'm it is incredible to and its annoying and maybe
Speaker 3: repetitive as this Chief's dynasty coming on the heels of
Speaker 3: the Patriots relentlessly getting to the stage.
Speaker 6: It literally is like one ended and the other.
Speaker 4: Yet bit of quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be the worst thing to have a few
Speaker 3: years where things get mixed up, and then like, if
Speaker 3: the Chiefs really do have the goods the way the
Speaker 3: Patriots did, then they can maybe come back in in
Speaker 3: a few years after the league gets you know, let's
Speaker 3: mix it up a little bit. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: there's there's I remember when I was young, but it
Speaker 3: was when I was first becoming a football fan. It
Speaker 3: was the Niners, and I know the Patriots they went
Speaker 3: for a three peat as well, But the Niners. I
Speaker 3: remember when they won back to back in the late
Speaker 3: eighties and they had a chance against the Giants the
Speaker 3: NFC title game at the Stick and they lost a
Speaker 3: I believe a two point game and a Matt barfield
Speaker 3: goal late that ended their three peet hopes.
Speaker 4: It is almost impossible.
Speaker 3: And I think they won the next year to that
Speaker 3: it is almost impossible to they didn't.
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, Washington, Yeah, it's almost impossible to win three
Speaker 4: in a row.
Speaker 3: We were talking Greg off Mike, which I don't know
Speaker 3: why we would ever do that. We should always talk
Speaker 3: on Mike that it can't happen, right, they can only
Speaker 3: go down from here at a certain point, And yet
Speaker 3: they could.
Speaker 4: There's a path to this team getting better if they
Speaker 4: make a couple of moves, sure.
Speaker 5: But the weight of it, and we'll have off season
Speaker 5: to talk about. I think the weight of trying to
Speaker 5: get that third there's a reason why no one's ever
Speaker 5: done it, trying to get a fourth in how many
Speaker 5: years would it would it be? I mean five, four
Speaker 5: and five, four and six, whatever it is like, that's
Speaker 5: something the Patriots were. I think the weight of it
Speaker 5: is it is really you could see it with this team.
Speaker 5: This team had a weight to it trying to defend
Speaker 5: it all year. That was difficult. So it's going to
Speaker 5: be hard. But they're different than any other team since
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. And this is my final thing I'll leave
Speaker 5: with is that in the playoffs, teams trailing by ten
Speaker 5: or other than the Chiefs, they're six and forty eight
Speaker 5: drailing by ten in a playoff game, and the Chiefs
Speaker 5: are five and one.
Speaker 4: In those games.
Speaker 5: I mean, they can do it. They can do it
Speaker 5: in any sort of way, but they can do it
Speaker 5: in a very particular way that you you get up
Speaker 5: on them and it's just never safe. And they're so complete,
Speaker 5: and this was a different type of team, and that's
Speaker 5: to me, that's what dynasties, what greatness is are made of?
Speaker 5: Is that you realize, Man, these football teams, they change
Speaker 5: so much from year to year. They really change over
Speaker 5: a three year span that you have to win in
Speaker 5: totally different ways. But the things that doesn't change is
Speaker 5: Mahomes and Reed And as long as that's happening, like
Speaker 5: they can find some other formula to get back here.
Speaker 7: And I yeah, I think actually like this win kind
Speaker 7: of lifts a lot of weight. I know that it
Speaker 7: would be there's gonna be a grind to go try
Speaker 7: to win a third, but it's it's not that they're
Speaker 7: playing with house money, because I think winning matters to them.
Speaker 4: Winning Super Bowls is going to be just an intensive journey.
Speaker 7: And Andy Reid, I remember before the Sea, you know, we
Speaker 7: talked on the show about Andy Reid saying everything is reset.
Speaker 7: They had that rough and tumble training camp where they
Speaker 7: were getting into fights with each other and it was like,
Speaker 7: we are resetting the board. And I think that the
Speaker 7: coach quarterback combination and really the other players on that
Speaker 7: team as well do as good a job of that
Speaker 7: as any team in sports. And so they've got twenty
Speaker 7: four million dollars in kaprum. They sit right in the
Speaker 7: middle of the league. I know there's gonna be some
Speaker 7: challenges on that front, but in general they could go
Speaker 7: fine weapons around Mahomes, you had like you actually went
Speaker 7: and did this with a with a low octane offense.
Speaker 7: What happens if you go add like a true starting
Speaker 7: X wide receiver that brings back some of the playmaking
Speaker 7: ability around them.
Speaker 4: But start with Chris Jones on the other side of
Speaker 4: the wall.
Speaker 3: Because you take came out of the picture, Spags is
Speaker 3: not gonna happen near the same success.
Speaker 4: So there's challenges ahead.
Speaker 3: But we should know not to doubt the Chiefs, who
Speaker 3: are back to back champions, and they are the bad
Speaker 3: guys now. When they ran out of the tunnel here
Speaker 3: the play it sounded like the old Patriots glory days,
Speaker 3: the way teams would the fans would fill up and
Speaker 3: get on Brady at these Super Bowls.
Speaker 4: But they loved it.
Speaker 3: In fact, they were underdogs in each of their last
Speaker 3: three playoff games, won them all and Patrick Mahomes was
Speaker 3: asked about being an underdog and he said, on the field,
Speaker 3: just know that the Kansas City Chiefs are never underdogs.
Speaker 4: Know that. Learned it.
Speaker 3: Go against the Chiefs at your own peril, and again
Speaker 3: thank you to everyone around this podcast, which just completed
Speaker 3: its eleventh season, which is unbelievable. It's hard to believe
Speaker 3: we've been doing this since twenty thirteen. This was our
Speaker 3: eleventh super Bowl on site and that's an amazing thing.
Speaker 3: And we obviously can't do it alone. So again, thank
Speaker 3: you to Eric who had an amazing rookie year and
Speaker 3: a great a great week, Jay and all the team
Speaker 3: at Radio Row that helped us out. Matt Schneider was
Speaker 3: pulling a lot of the levers, Thomas Warren, the whole
Speaker 3: podcast team, and everyone back in Englewood who helped make
Speaker 3: this happen. We don't do it alone, so thank you
Speaker 3: to everybody, and thank you to the listener. Where would
Speaker 3: we be without you guys, no wearing around, Thanks for
Speaker 3: giving us a great life.
Speaker 6: Thanks to everyone who come and said hi this week.
Speaker 5: It made you know, I felt like we're getting pop
Speaker 5: that ever let's go, That lifts the energy absolutely.
Speaker 3: All right, we're taking a week off. We'll be back
Speaker 3: in a bit. Uh and until then, you know what
Speaker 3: you gotta do.
Speaker 4: Heed the call.