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Speaker 1: Apparently the ranks thinning come into play. I don't want

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Speaker 2: Let's just you know, we got a week, a little

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Speaker 1: So that's that's where our focus is right now. Can

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Speaker 2: Round, Well, we're not real concerned with that, whether it's

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Speaker 2: How would you know if you yeah, We're going to

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Speaker 2: So we're just going to continue to work with all

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Speaker 1: Croffer reads, where nil your plans. They have a lot

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Speaker 2: Help with me at when any way working the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: But every player has the different specifics that go along

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Speaker 3: Do enough in the past rush this past season.

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Speaker 2: to look to add to that group. Set pumps in

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Speaker 1: So if they end up being great players when you

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Speaker 2: I think I worked with Jim for a number of years,

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Speaker 1: Bringing this GM, Eric Costins, like you're talking about mine

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Speaker 3: Positions trend. Interior offensive line in the first round sometimes

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Speaker 2: Well, we took Mike ayau Potty, I believe, with the

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Speaker 2: Didn't he You're never going to get criticized for taking

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Speaker 2: I figured Jim would always return. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad he got that. Opportunity website are Nilsen

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Speaker 2: I think Ryan's proven over time that especially with the front,

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Speaker 1: But it's impossible to know what every team's thinking. If

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Speaker 3: They're not well.

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Speaker 3: What's that up at his level? In press Taylor as

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Speaker 3: That muddy night football game you playing for ann want

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Speaker 1: Do you do play well?

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Speaker 2: I think anytime you finish the way you finish it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were eight and three at one point.

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Speaker 2: We finished nine and eight, so we won one more

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Speaker 2: And from a from an organizational standpoint, it's never one thing.

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Speaker 2: There's multiple things, tentacles that stretch into different areas of

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Speaker 1: You know, no one better to own than me.

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Speaker 2: You know when I look at this thing, extremely disappointed

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Speaker 1: You have eighteen players that have the combine. How is that?

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Speaker 1: How is Michigan viewed through the lens of the NFL

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Speaker 1: And you through the lens of the NFL?

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Speaker 2: And this did an outstanding if one thing you can

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Speaker 1: That's no different than the league.

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Speaker 2: If you look at who wins Super Bowls, it's mature

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Speaker 2: We're all trying to build a winner, and you do

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