WEBVTT - AC/DC Pt. 2: Dirty Deeds, Dead Friends, and Murder for Hire

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>story about contract killings, death threats, drinking with ghosts, rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roll, and a part two continuation of our story

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the greatest bands of all time, ACDC,

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<v Speaker 1>A band that made great music. Yes, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest rock and roll music these ears have ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike that music I played for you at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. That wasn't great music. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>preset loop from my melotron called Jack and Bloke MK one.

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<v Speaker 1>I played you that loop because I can't afford the

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<v Speaker 1>rights to Shake it Off by Taylor Swift. Then why

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<v Speaker 1>would I play you that specific slice of pre Kelsey Cheese?

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<v Speaker 1>Could I afford it? Because that was the number one

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<v Speaker 1>song in America on November sixteenth, twenty fourteen. Then that

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<v Speaker 1>was the day a CDC's Phil Rudd was arrested on

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<v Speaker 1>charges that would make the musicians seem strangely alike one

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<v Speaker 1>of the murderous characters in one of the band's best songs,

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. On this episode, concrete Shoes, Cyanide, neckties, contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>high voltage. In Part two of our ACDC story, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Brennan and this his disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Land Chapter one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do anything you want me to? We transmitters in Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>and the Northern Territory. This is ab this honest John,

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<v Speaker 1>the villain of the year. Call me come my no

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<v Speaker 1>good mom. Who's worts?

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<v Speaker 3>The Seeky's here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I watched the Birdie.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll think I was kidding when I said I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>glad to knock you up. I have some Gorganzola for

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<v Speaker 3>his little snazzola.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a shot. No Angus and Malcolm Young of a

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<v Speaker 1>c DC never forgot where they came from, the working class,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of home where the television baby sat the

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<v Speaker 1>kids because there was no other option, and they never

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<v Speaker 1>forgot what made them family. The two brothers launched their

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<v Speaker 1>band in the early seventies under the guidance of their

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<v Speaker 1>older brother George, who, along with his friend Harry Vanda,

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<v Speaker 1>had already achieve pop chart success with his band The

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<v Speaker 1>Easy Beats. The Easy Beats single Friday on My Mind

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<v Speaker 1>reached number sixteen on the Billboard Hot one hundred in

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<v Speaker 1>America in nineteen sixty six and was covered by David

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<v Speaker 1>Bowie on his album Pin Ups in seventy three. In

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<v Speaker 1>the environment that Angus and Malcolm were raised in, hard

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<v Speaker 1>work and discipline were of utmost importance. It didn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>if you were mixing cement as their father had done,

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<v Speaker 1>or playing guitar in a band with your brother on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and your other brother behind the board. Concrete shoes, cyanide, neckties,

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<v Speaker 1>contract killings. This kind of work the Dirty Deeds, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind that Dishonest John promised to deliver Dirt Cheat. Dishonest

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<v Speaker 1>John was a character from Angus's favorite cartoon growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>The Beanie and Cecil Showy. Even this type of work

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<v Speaker 1>required discipline, But for Angus and Malcolm, who in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five were putting together the lyrics with ACDC singer

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<v Speaker 1>Bond Scott for the third album, Contract Killings and the

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<v Speaker 1>like were just violent fantasy, typical the type of transgressions

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrated by the characters dreamed up by Bond. Men on

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<v Speaker 1>the outer edge of society, thieves, broke down, dreamers, schemers, stalkers,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, even killers, Men on the fringe, like the

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<v Speaker 1>main character and the title track from their forthcoming album,

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheat, a song inspired partly by

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<v Speaker 1>Bond's vivid imagination, and partly from Angus's childhood infatuation with

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<v Speaker 1>the dishonest John cartoon character, and partly from those bad

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<v Speaker 1>bad men Humphrey Bogart portrayed in his early films. The

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<v Speaker 1>song Dirty Deeds was great, no doubt about it. Beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Bond's bad bad man hiring himself out

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<v Speaker 1>to solve his customers problems with all manner of criminal violence,

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<v Speaker 1>and in typical Bond humor, to do so cheaply. Beneath

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, there was a killer riff and a

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm that swung. ACDC is often categorized as being a

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<v Speaker 1>hard rock band, but that couldn't be more untrue. ACDC

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<v Speaker 1>is a rock and roll band. The rock part of

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<v Speaker 1>the equation is the part that sounds hard, and the

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<v Speaker 1>roll part is the part that's hard to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the part that swings. Think of the rolling stones, hard

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<v Speaker 1>riffs from Keith, but songs that feel good and make

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<v Speaker 1>you want to dance because of Charlie. Because Charlie Watts

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to swing. The swing is subtle. Most rock

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<v Speaker 1>bands get it wrong, and well, they're not rock and

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<v Speaker 1>roll bands. They're just rock bands. Malcolm Young was hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on being a rock and roll band. Being just

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<v Speaker 1>a rock band wasn't good enough. You might as well

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<v Speaker 1>be hauling concrete or watching cartoons. Being in a great

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll band was something that would last, and finally,

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<v Speaker 1>on this album, on Dirty Deeds, Malcolm had what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because now, after a series of early releases with

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<v Speaker 1>different bandmates, inconsistent repertoire, and distribution issues, ac DC seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to finally be putting it all together on one great

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<v Speaker 1>full length album that was bound to break the band

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<v Speaker 1>in America. Malcolm knew what anyone who saw ACDC back

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies quickly learn. Ac DC was the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll band on the planet. Pete Townsend from

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<v Speaker 1>the who saw them live and loved them to Trick

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<v Speaker 1>found other brothers from down Under Kiss was intimidated by them,

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<v Speaker 1>and Van Halen was afraid to follow them on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Ac DC was that good, and a big reason why

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<v Speaker 1>was because, in addition to Angus's schoolboy guitar hero antics

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<v Speaker 1>and Bond's bad boy soul strip and Malcolm's iron fist

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<v Speaker 1>behind it all, ACDC had a drum who could swing,

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Rudd. With Phil now behind the kid, Malcolm Young

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<v Speaker 1>was on his way to building a band that was

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<v Speaker 1>the rock and roll representation of raw, working class power,

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<v Speaker 1>a machine that could withstand fame, addiction, death, and even murder.

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<v Speaker 1>But Atlantic Records didn't hear a single, and Dirty Deeds

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<v Speaker 1>Done Dirt Cheap was shelved in America, it disappeared into

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<v Speaker 1>Limbo unreleased. Not until years later did American audiences get

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it. For the time being, partly to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>being dropped by their label, and partly as a giant

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you to the label that clearly didn't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>his band. Malcolm Young took ACDC back into the studio

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<v Speaker 1>and created a masterpiece, nineteen seventy seven's Let There Be Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the label try to ignore this. They couldn't, neither

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<v Speaker 1>could audiences. The band toured relentlessly through Europe and America.

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<v Speaker 1>ACDC quickly followed Let There Be Rock with nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight's Powerridge quite literally the greatest rock and roll album

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, by the way, but I'm not here

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<v Speaker 1>to start arguments you can't win. I'm here to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a story about Dirty Deeds, so I'll just keep

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<v Speaker 1>going with Poweradge came more touring and plans for another record,

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<v Speaker 1>this one to hopefully do what others hadn't break the

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<v Speaker 1>band in America. But touring was taking its toll. As

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<v Speaker 1>touring does. People think that the lives of touring musicians

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<v Speaker 1>are glamorous, and to some extent it is dancing girls

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<v Speaker 1>and champagne on ice, as Bond Scott wants saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also incredibly taxing physically and mentally. It'll drive even

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<v Speaker 1>the best of them crazy. And people also think that

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<v Speaker 1>being in a band is being part of a brotherhood,

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<v Speaker 1>and it most definitely is. But the part that often

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<v Speaker 1>gets left out is what if one of your brothers

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<v Speaker 1>goes shit house nuts every now and again? What then

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<v Speaker 1>every band knows what I'm talking about. Bon Scott definitely

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<v Speaker 1>knew about this, so much so that in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight he took some time off from partying on the

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<v Speaker 1>road to write a letter to his sister, Valerie. Bonn

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on Hilton Stationary, well, as you can see Bond's

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<v Speaker 1>in downtown Pittsburgh today, I've just come over from the

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast, where I spent a couple of days in

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<v Speaker 1>La doing midnight special Bond goes on, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>feel the natural charm in his words and the sweetness

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<v Speaker 1>he has in reserve for his sibling. You can also

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<v Speaker 1>instantly feel his concern for a friend. Bonn is telling

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<v Speaker 1>Valerie that he's scouting drummers to fill in for ac

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<v Speaker 1>DC's Phil Rudd, saying quote, Phil had a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a nervous breakdown, and Bonn goes on to say that

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<v Speaker 1>Phil had to spend a lot of time with a

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<v Speaker 1>shrink and that it was real bad, but luckily he

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<v Speaker 1>got over it quickly enough not to upset the band,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a tree with kid gloves for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's okay now. According to Bond Scott, Phil Rudd

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<v Speaker 1>had gone a bit off the rails. A loose cannon

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<v Speaker 1>drummer was exactly the type of drummer a musician as

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<v Speaker 1>serious minded as Malcolm Young could not abide. Yet Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>needed Phil. Malcolm had played with other drummers, and other

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<v Speaker 1>drummers were a dead end. Phil swung in a special

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<v Speaker 1>way and Malcolm couldn't go back to the way it

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<v Speaker 1>was to be in just a rock band. So Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>closed ranks, dealt with Phil's problem internally and kept trudging

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<v Speaker 1>towards success in America, with Phil behind the kit for

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<v Speaker 1>the recording of the band's next album, again the one

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<v Speaker 1>they hope would break them in the States. But now

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<v Speaker 1>the label was interfering once more, and for this next record,

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<v Speaker 1>ACDC would need to part ways with their longtime producer,

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<v Speaker 1>their brother George Young, and work with someone who better

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<v Speaker 1>understood what American audiences were looking for. The meddling stung.

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<v Speaker 1>Being forced to break the bond with their older brothers

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<v Speaker 1>stung even worse. Atlantic suggested legendary producer Eddie Kramer, he

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<v Speaker 1>of Jimmy Hendrick's fame. Eddie Kramer suggested Malcolm and Angus

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<v Speaker 1>record the Young Rascals Good Loving as their first single.

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm called his manager and told him to get Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Kramer the fuck out of the studio and on the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing smoking back to wherever the hell he came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic then shipped in Mutt Lang, fresh off crafting a

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<v Speaker 1>number one hit for the Boomtown Rats. Mutt told Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>and Bond that the backing vocals on the demos needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be sung in a certain way. Malcolm told Mutt

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't no dirty Boomtown Rats. Singing for the charts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mutt then went in and sang the suggested vocal

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<v Speaker 1>part perfectly. Malcolm took the note, and so did Bond. Mutt,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on another level, and he understood what made ACDC work.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, he just got out of the

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<v Speaker 1>way and let them cook. What emerge was a masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>Highway to Hell. The album did for the band what

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<v Speaker 1>it in Atlantic had long hoped to achieve. It broke

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<v Speaker 1>them in America. To date. The album that sold almost

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<v Speaker 1>eight million copies in the United States and more than

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million worldwide. But if a CDC was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be built to last, there was another mile marker on

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<v Speaker 1>the highway to pass even greater success international success. Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>was relentless a workhorse. He and Angus wrote tirelessly for

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<v Speaker 1>what they were certain would be an album that would

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<v Speaker 1>blow the rest of the world wide open for ac DC.

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<v Speaker 1>As nineteen eighty progressed and high school kids across the

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<v Speaker 1>United States dug into the massive riffs on Highway to Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>the band was already set to record a follow up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it was Bondstern. He looked up from the notebook

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<v Speaker 1>he was writing in and closed it It was February

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<v Speaker 1>in London, cold and dreary, but Bond was feeling celebratory.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd done it. He'd finished writing the lyrics for acdc's

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<v Speaker 1>next album finally, and so it was time to get drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter two Neckties. There are no handbooks in rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no index you can leave through, no dead singer

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<v Speaker 1>section filed under d and therefore there were no instructions

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<v Speaker 1>for ACDC when they learned in February nineteen eighty that

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<v Speaker 1>their singer, the inimitable and seemingly irreplaceable Bond Scott, had died.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Bond's girlfriends at the time. Silver Smith claims

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<v Speaker 1>that Bond finished writing the lyrics for acdc's next album

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<v Speaker 1>in the London flat that he was renting, and went

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<v Speaker 1>out afterward to celebrate with his friends from the band

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<v Speaker 1>UFO at a club called the Music Machine. Bond then

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<v Speaker 1>blacked out drunk in the back of it over No. Five,

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<v Speaker 1>choked on his own vomit, and died senselessly. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Angus and everyone else in the ACDC camp was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to get their dead singer

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<v Speaker 1>back to Australia from first class on the plane. While

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<v Speaker 1>they waited to fly out, you could see Bond's coffin

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<v Speaker 1>coming down the baggage conveyor belt mixed in with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the luggage. Fucked this, Angus wouldn't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't flying home first class with his friend being

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<v Speaker 1>hauled underneath the plane with the rest of the cargo.

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<v Speaker 1>The band moved back to coach and back to Australia

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<v Speaker 1>on Scott was buried, and then the band moved on

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<v Speaker 1>through their grief. Each band member, Malcolm, Angus, phil and

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<v Speaker 1>bassist Cliff Williams worked tirelessly. The first order of business

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<v Speaker 1>was to find a replacement for Bond, a task that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed impossible but somehow was accomplished when they found Brian Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>a singer who once impressed Bond and a singer who,

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<v Speaker 1>as it's long been rumored, was recommended to ac DC

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<v Speaker 1>by a fan. Next up, they needed to complete the

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<v Speaker 1>album they started putting together before Bond's death, but when

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<v Speaker 1>they emerged from the studio they were wielding a tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to Bond called Back in Black, an album that would

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<v Speaker 1>sell ungodly amounts of records, largely on the strength of

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<v Speaker 1>the band's new songs, songs that fit their new singer perfectly,

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<v Speaker 1>and also on the strength of the group's relentless touring.

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<v Speaker 1>When all was said and done, Back in Black did

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<v Speaker 1>what Malcolm intended it to do, broke the band beyond

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<v Speaker 1>America throughout the rest of the world. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>global smash, one that would go on to sell fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million copies and become the second biggest selling full length

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<v Speaker 1>album of all time, behind only Michael Jackson's Thriller. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in Black's follow up for Those About to Rock, We

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<v Speaker 1>Salute You, sold incredibly well, also deepening ac DC's connection

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<v Speaker 1>with American gearheads and FM radio listeners. They continued to

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<v Speaker 1>tour and became quite literally the biggest band on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet before hunkering down to create their next album, Flick

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<v Speaker 1>of the Switch. And that's when the pressure of it

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<v Speaker 1>all started to grind the gears on Malcolm's well oiled

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll machine. Chapter three, Pick up the Phone,

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<v Speaker 1>Leave Her Alone. Phil Rudd, acdc's drummer, the man who

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<v Speaker 1>rolled and swung mightily, was coming apart again. He played

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<v Speaker 1>nightly to tens of thousands of adoring fans and did

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<v Speaker 1>his best to outrun the death of one of his

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<v Speaker 1>best friends, Bond Scott, all while enjoying the trappings of

0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>success Bond always wanted but never achieved. It was a lot.

0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.320
<v Speaker 1>The guilt was, no doubt, white hot. Phil cooled it

0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:15.719
<v Speaker 1>with alcohol, gallons and gallons of alcohol. Of course, in

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll, drinking is not only tolerated, it's encouraged.

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<v Speaker 1>But for a band leader like Malcolm Young, the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that was sacred was you're playing. If the drink

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<v Speaker 1>impacted the gig, then you could get fucked off stage.

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<v Speaker 1>In a hotel room in Nebraska, Phil Rudd was drinking

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<v Speaker 1>with ghosts. They were right there at the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>his bed. Who were these people pulling from the same

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<v Speaker 1>bottle that he was? Groupies fans, Some spoke and adoring

0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.000
<v Speaker 1>kiss ass tones. Some taunted Phil. They talked of ACDC

0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.679
<v Speaker 1>songs and fast cars, and all Phil heard was Bond's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>When one of them, just a high school ahead, asked

0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Phil flight bonn ask for a life. When the lady

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<v Speaker 1>with the dude, who was icinger, got frustrated and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know where the coke was, Phil heard Bond question him.

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<v Speaker 1>When two guys near the bathroom nearly came to blows

0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>over a girl sitting on Phil's bed, Phil heard Bonn

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<v Speaker 1>arguing with himself. Phil had a thought, was this It

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<v Speaker 1>were the distractions, the gigs, the sessions, the responsibilities. Were

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<v Speaker 1>they no longer enough? Phil may have been pissed, drunk,

0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but he knew what this was. Unresolved grief finally coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the surface, bleeding out all over the room in

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<v Speaker 1>ghostly white heat, filling the atmosphere within these four walls

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<v Speaker 1>with the pressure he never imagined, manifest in the words

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans, his new Fairweather friends, speaking in bon

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's voice and now increasingly in tongues. The sound of

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<v Speaker 1>it filled his head with dense pressure. It was intense,

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<v Speaker 1>more intense than the pressure of being on stage age

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<v Speaker 1>in front of tens of thousands, and more intense than

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<v Speaker 1>staring down Malcolm. Stronger than the fear of letting Angus down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the pressure of admitting he was gone and

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<v Speaker 1>that there was nothing he or anyone else could do

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Bond was gone, and these fuckers in the

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<v Speaker 1>room had to go next. But Phil was helpless. He

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<v Speaker 1>called his road manager, Ian. Ian would know what to do.

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Road managers always knew what to do. Ian headed straight

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<v Speaker 1>over to Phil's room to clear out the groupies and

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<v Speaker 1>the fans so that acdc's drummer could get some rest.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Ian entered the room, it was empty, empty,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Phil, and there were no groupies

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<v Speaker 1>and no fans, only a ghost. Phil Rudd had tripped

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<v Speaker 1>beyond some invisible line and things would not get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Rudd continued drinking with the ghost of bon Scott

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<v Speaker 1>until on October eighth, nineteen eighty three, Phil walked on

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<v Speaker 1>stage in Uniondale, New York, wasted, sat down behind his

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<v Speaker 1>kit and bashed away until he fell off his stool

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>in a pissed drunk stupor. He recovered, sort of and

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>finished the set. Afterward, Malcolm Young walked up to his

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 1>drummer backstage and walloped him in the face with his fist,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. Phil could fuck off. He was

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<v Speaker 1>out of the group and ACDC was now just another

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<v Speaker 1>rock band. We'll be right back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're We're Where.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter four The high school head who said you needed

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<v Speaker 1>a swing. Plenty of bands who merely rocked had enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>massive success. It was nineteen ninety and the billboard charts

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>were peppered with rock bands turning on teenage heads all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. Jovi made Jersey girls swoon with Blaze

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of Glory, which went to number one. Billy Idol rocked

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the Cradle of Love all the way up to number two.

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Faith No More soared into the top ten at number

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>nine with their single Epic, and in the same year, Nelson,

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<v Speaker 1>Heart and skid Row all competed on the charts alongside

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<v Speaker 1>ac DC's single Thunderstruck, the band's biggest hit since You

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Shook Me All Night Long, which drove their new album

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<v Speaker 1>The Razor's Edge to multi platinum status, the band's best

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>selling records since Back in Black. All of these songs

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>were rock bon Jovi, Billy Idol, Nelson, Heart, skid Row, etc.

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>They weren't rock and roll. Thunderstruck by ac DC wasn't

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll either. It's about as meat and potato

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.640
<v Speaker 1>as hard rock as you can get. It's great, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, But it isn't Highway to Hell or

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Let There Be Rock. It doesn't come anywhere near the

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<v Speaker 1>greatness the band achieved creatively when Phil Rubb was in

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<v Speaker 1>the band. Neither were the full length recordings that preceded

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<v Speaker 1>the Razor's Edge or followed the last the album to

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>feature Phil, which was Flick at the Switch. Those albums

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>being Fly on the Wall and Blow Up Your Video.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Simon Wright replaced Phil Rudd on those albums, and Chris

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Slade of the Firm replaced Simon on the Razor's Edge.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a creative era of inconsistency for ACDC. Some

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<v Speaker 1>fans the purest blame Bond Scott's replacement singer Brian Johnson

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 1>for the band's lackluster recordings during this time, specifically Fly

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>on the Wall and Blow Up Your Video. But Brian

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the issue. The drumming was the issue. Sure, Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>made it work with Thunderstruck, but deep down I think

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<v Speaker 1>he knew they weren't the same band without Phil Rudd.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't a rock and roll band and something needed

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<v Speaker 1>to change. And that's something was brought on by the

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<v Speaker 1>Dirtiest deads Murder Chapter five. We'll get round Him, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have Her sells a ball. Christmas nineteen eighty three, ACDC

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<v Speaker 1>is once again on top, one of the biggest bands

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and their manager, Crispin Dy had many

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>reasons to celebrate that evening. In Sydney, Australia. There was

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<v Speaker 1>the success of the band he managed, and then there

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>was the joy he felt over releasing his own debut album.

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<v Speaker 1>So Crispin went out to hit the pubs. Upon leaving

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<v Speaker 1>one of those watering holes in the Darlinghurst neighborhood, he

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<v Speaker 1>was attacked three men or was it just one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>doubtful Crispin ever saw the attack coming, and the head

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>trauma likely came first from a blunt instrument, then the punches,

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<v Speaker 1>the kicks. But when you felled and your brain has

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<v Speaker 1>been so severely bashed that you could feel it loosening

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>itself from the inside of your skull, the hits to

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<v Speaker 1>the body don't really register. You're in shock, confused, and

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you know something's happening to you, but you're not sure what.

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<v Speaker 1>There's fear, yes, but that fear isn't of your attackers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's deeper now. You can feel yourself slipping away. Holding

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<v Speaker 1>on is no longer a tangible challenge. It's metaphysical that

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<v Speaker 1>you try to concentrate, but the hits keep on coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and your mind is pulling you into a darkness you've

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<v Speaker 1>never known, a darkness with a promise of peace so

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<v Speaker 1>real you can feel it wrap itself around you and

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<v Speaker 1>shield you from the pain being inflicted upon your body.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a trade off. Nothing's free. Slipping into that

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<v Speaker 1>piece means slipping into oblivion. So you fight, if not physically,

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<v Speaker 1>then mentally, you will yourself to survive. But when they

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<v Speaker 1>find you, you're unconscious, bloodied, broken, lying in the street

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<v Speaker 1>like a Christian thrown to the lions, and they gather

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<v Speaker 1>up what's left of you, because remarkably you're still breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>and they bring you to the hospital where you do

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<v Speaker 1>your best to hang on, but that pull towards something

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<v Speaker 1>better than what you've been given it's too strong, so

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<v Speaker 1>you give in and succumb to your injuries. The next day, Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>the day you meet your maker at the age, which

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<v Speaker 1>is forty one, acdc's manager Crispinde was murdered. They never

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<v Speaker 1>caught his killers, and this case is steeped in hate. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a supposed eyewitness accusation of the three Pacific

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Islanders were seen standing over Crispin's body, a lead that

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<v Speaker 1>went nowhere. And then there was the fact that Crispin

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<v Speaker 1>was gay walking late at night in an area known

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<v Speaker 1>for its gay night life, but the death was investigated

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<v Speaker 1>as a robbery, not a hate crime, and nothing came

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<v Speaker 1>of it until in twenty twenty three, thirty years later,

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it was revealed that the forensic testing of Die's blood

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>stained clothing have been botched by authorities and when the

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<v Speaker 1>forensics will run again. A DNA match linked the crime

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<v Speaker 1>to a violent, convicted felon with a criminal history, including

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen ninety three assault with an iron bar, a

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<v Speaker 1>blunt instrument and another attack of a tourist in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>That convicted felon killed himself in two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>and the case of the murder of acdc's manager remains unsolved.

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<v Speaker 1>What isn't a mystery, however, is what this murder, this

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate event, did for the band that Crispin Dye managed.

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<v Speaker 1>At his funeral, members of ACDC passed and present were

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<v Speaker 1>in attendance, and this was where Malcolm Young ran into

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Phil Rudd for the first time in years and was

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<v Speaker 1>reminded of what he'd been missing in ACDC, that dirty

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<v Speaker 1>swing that only Phil was capable of bringing. You would

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<v Speaker 1>think that a guy in Malcolm Young's position in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four would be content. He was a guitarist and

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<v Speaker 1>a massive band, a band he built with his brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was more than a band. It was a giant,

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<v Speaker 1>successful family business. He'd written and recorded iconic music that

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<v Speaker 1>would outlive him for decades. He had the respect of

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.959
<v Speaker 1>his peers and heroes, the Rolling Stones. They famously offered

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>ACDC millions of dollars to open up for them for

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<v Speaker 1>one show, and Malcolm said no because ACDC opened for

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<v Speaker 1>no one, not even his heroes. Malcolm's band made him

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>more money than he'd ever be able to spend, so

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 1>why mess around with what was clearly working? Because true

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<v Speaker 1>artists never rest. There's always a fear that if what

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<v Speaker 1>you're making isn't great, then everything, all of it, will disappear.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm young from his earliest days and ac DC wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a band that could last, that could not be toppled

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>by an outside force, and that meant staying true to

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>what he and his brother believed was the best version

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of rock and roll they grew up on and set

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>out to make. Thunderstruck wasn't enough, because Malcolm knew there

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>was a version of ACDC that was better, and that

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>version had to include the wild card Phil Rudd on drums.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The encounter at the funerals set off a chain of

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>events that would end with Phil replacing Chris Slade and

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>taking back his rightful seat behind the kit in nineteen

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>ninety four, first with an informal jam session with Angus

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and Malcolm, and then in rehearsals for the band's next album, Ballbreaker,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>produced with Rick Rubin. The idea was that with Phil back,

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Rubin would shepherd the band to its stripped down seventy sound.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>That didn't really work out. Rick Rubin and Malcolm and

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Angus clashed creatively, and the album suffered as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>A CDC's real return to form didn't come until the

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<v Speaker 1>next album two thousand, Stiff Upper Lip, produced by Malcolm

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and Angus's brother Georgia, after Atlantic Records forced George out

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>before Highway to Hell. His reunion with the band was

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a reset Malcolm had been waiting for. With Phil Rudd

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>anchoring the rhythm and George behind the board, ac DC

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>once again sounded exactly as Malcolm always knew the band should.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Stiff Upper Lip maybe an overlooked record from a CDC's catalog,

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's the band's best record with Brian Johnson, that's

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>not named Back in Black, and after nearly two decades

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>of creative inconsistency, the band was ready to charge into

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the new millennium with the same white hot intensity they'd

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<v Speaker 1>owned in the seventies. But along the way, Malcolm would

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<v Speaker 1>face challenges to that vision, and none of those challenges

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<v Speaker 1>was more shocking than when Phil Rudd once again stopped

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<v Speaker 1>drumming for a C d C and became a real

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<v Speaker 1>life character written from the lyrics of dirty Deeds Done

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<v Speaker 1>dirt Chy, a true dishonest John. We'll get back into

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<v Speaker 1>this story in a couple seconds, guys, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up what you may have heard me mention

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<v Speaker 1>in the last block, the fact that bon Scott's girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that he actually finished the lyrics for acdc's next

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<v Speaker 1>album before he died. That would be the Back in

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<v Speaker 1>Black album. But bon Scott isn't credited as a lyricist

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<v Speaker 1>or a songwriter on Back in Black. This controversy has

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<v Speaker 1>been debated by ACDC fans for years. Did Bond Scott

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<v Speaker 1>actually write some of the lyrics for the massively successful

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<v Speaker 1>Back in Black album? And was Brian Johnson credited instead?

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<v Speaker 1>There's too much to get into about the story in

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<v Speaker 1>this full episode of Disgraceland, but we do dive in

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<v Speaker 1>more fully in this week's accompanying mini episode, which Disgrace

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<v Speaker 1>and All Access members can hear in their Apple podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>or Patreon apps. Go to disgracelandpod dot com slash membership

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<v Speaker 1>to become a member today for just five ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get back to our full ACDC

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<v Speaker 1>story right now, Chapter six. Just ring three six two

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<v Speaker 1>four three six, Hey, I lead a life of crime.

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<v Speaker 1>On April sixteenth, twenty fourteen, ACDC issued a statement that read,

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<v Speaker 1>in part, after forty years of life dedicated to ac DC,

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<v Speaker 1>guitarist and founding member Malcolm Young is taking a break

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<v Speaker 1>from the band due to ill health. ACDC asks that

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm and his family's privacy be respected during this time.

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<v Speaker 1>The band will continue to make music. Ac DC will

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<v Speaker 1>get together in May and Vancouver to record. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>that not even Malcolm Young's own sickness, which was revealed

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<v Speaker 1>six months later in September of twenty fourteen to be dementia,

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<v Speaker 1>could deny him of his goal to keep ac DC

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. So it was no surprise when a few

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<v Speaker 1>months later on November sixth, twenty fourteen, that the band

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<v Speaker 1>would pledge to continue on in the face of even

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<v Speaker 1>more unbelievable news from the ac DC camp.

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<v Speaker 3>The drummer of the rock band ac DC is accused

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<v Speaker 3>in an alleged murder plot. Phil Rudd was charged in

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<v Speaker 3>a New Zealand court with attempting to hire a hitman

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<v Speaker 3>to kill two people. If convicted, Rudd could face ten

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<v Speaker 3>years behind bars.

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<v Speaker 1>Drummer Phil Rudd had just been arrested for offering a

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<v Speaker 1>hit man large amounts of cash to have two men

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<v Speaker 1>taken out murdered, a contract killing by a real life

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<v Speaker 1>dishonest John. Phil was also charged with possessing large amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of meta amphetamine in cannabis. The victims, the men the

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<v Speaker 1>police were charging Phil Rudd for threatening to kill, were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed business associates. These men, the identity of the victims

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<v Speaker 1>has never been disclosed, were allegedly responsible for the existence and,

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<v Speaker 1>from Phil's point of view, the failure of his solo

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<v Speaker 1>album head Job the Record, and Phil was pissed and

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<v Speaker 1>most likely way high on meth and that drug induced

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<v Speaker 1>thinking caused Phil Rudd to threaten to kill the two

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<v Speaker 1>men who had worked for him. On the day of

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Rudd's arrest, ACDC wasted no time a statement was issued.

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<v Speaker 1>It read We've only become aware of Phil's arrest as

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<v Speaker 1>the news was breaking. We have no further comment. Phil's

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<v Speaker 1>absence will not affect the release of our new album,

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<v Speaker 1>Rock or Bust and upcoming tour next year Rock or Bust. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing, not the sickness of their band's founding

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<v Speaker 1>and most influential member, not even the arrest of their

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<v Speaker 1>drummer on a murder for higher charge, that could stop

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<v Speaker 1>ac DC from moving forward. The show, as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>must go on. Two weeks after Phil's arrest, Rock or Bust,

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<v Speaker 1>an album he played on alongside Angus, Brian Cliff and

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm and Angus's nephew Stevie Young, was released. Five months later.

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<v Speaker 1>On April tenth, twenty fifteen, at Coachella, ACDC kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>the band's latest tour, with Chris Slade back behind the

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<v Speaker 1>kit in place of Phil again, Rock or Bust, not

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and Roll or Bust. Ten days later, on April twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>halfway across the world in New Zealand, Phil Rudd went

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<v Speaker 1>before the judge and by then the murder for higher

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<v Speaker 1>charge had been dropped due to insufficient evidence, but the

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<v Speaker 1>death threats and drug charges stuck and Phil pleaded guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>He was released on bail to await sentencing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>judge noted Phil's fragile mental health in his drug addiction. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>ACDC tore a path across the United States and Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>On July ninth, twenty fifteen, Phil Rudd went before the

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<v Speaker 1>judge again, this time for his sentencing. He was given

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<v Speaker 1>just eight months of home detention in order to abstain

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<v Speaker 1>from drugs and undergo rehab, and the judge warned that

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<v Speaker 1>a breach of these orders could land the drummer in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>But the judge was apparently as softy because just days

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<v Speaker 1>after Phil was confined to house arrest, he was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>for associating with prostitutes at his house, and the judge

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<v Speaker 1>let him off with a warning there was no getting

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<v Speaker 1>around the house arrest. Though the entire eight month sentence

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be served. Phil's lawyer argued this would

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<v Speaker 1>mean that Phil would miss a CDC's Japanese tour. His

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<v Speaker 1>attorney voiced Malcolm Young's point of view. Phil's drummer was

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<v Speaker 1>integral to the band's sound. Why should the band suffer

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<v Speaker 1>because of Phil's actions? The judge disagreed and replied that

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<v Speaker 1>Queen replaced Freddy Mercury. Apparently the judge wasn't aware that

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<v Speaker 1>ACDC replaced Bond Scott. Everyone, even Malcolm Young, was replaceable.

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<v Speaker 1>So Phil Rudd was sentenced and out of the band,

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<v Speaker 1>where he remains to this day. While the band continues

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<v Speaker 1>to tour even after Malcolm Young's death in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they're touring without their best drummer, Phil Rudd,

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<v Speaker 1>who lives out on the fringe, just like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those characters his friend Bon Scott used to write about

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<v Speaker 1>in his songs, specifically in Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a real dishonest John and a true disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jake Brennan, and this this Disgraceland. All right, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to this episode of Disgraceland. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear more about the controversy around Bond Scott allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>writing the lyrics for Back in Black, what the second

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<v Speaker 1>biggest selling album of all time, you're gonna need to

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<v Speaker 1>check out today's mini episode. Okay, all Access and Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Access to unlock many episodes, add free listening in uncensored

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<v Speaker 1>music history you will not get anywhere else. Here's the kicker. Bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's friends and girlfriends swore he finished writing the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>for Back in Black before he died, But the notebook

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote them and disappeared the night he was found dead.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did it go? And why hasn't it ever resurface?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're digging into in the mini episode. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this week's question of the week. If Back in Black

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<v Speaker 1>is the greatest selling rock and roll record of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the one record you put above it? You can

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<v Speaker 1>only pick one? Is it Exile on Main Street London?

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<v Speaker 1>Calling Abbey Road? Something else? Maybe another ACDC record? Call

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<v Speaker 1>me six one seven nine oh six six six three

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<v Speaker 1>Rock a Roller.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a bad down man.