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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 2: J T.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss the latest Jaguars

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Speaker 1: news with the head coach. The Doug Peterson Show starts

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in The Doug Peterson Show. Thursday afternoon. It's preseason

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Speaker 3: Week one. The Jaguars meet the Dallas Cowboys at AT and

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Speaker 3: T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, Saturday of five o'clock Eastern time.

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Speaker 4: Kick. Welcome in, JP Shadrick, Jeff Loghman.

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Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson will be back with us in

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Speaker 3: studio week one, when the Jaguars prepared to meet the

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts on kickoff weekend, well, preseason kickoff weekend. I

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Speaker 3: guess is upon us. Hall of Fame Week is a

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Speaker 3: different week. That's one game.

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Speaker 4: Here we go with a full slate of preseason games

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Speaker 4: this weekend.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing how little attention we paid till the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame Week this year compared to compared to last year.

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Speaker 4: I had it on for it was on TV. Did

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Speaker 4: you watch?

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Speaker 3: The guy watched like two drives and I'm like, why

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Speaker 3: am I watching this game?

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Speaker 4: What is going on?

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Speaker 5: I was there last year I didn't even turn it on,

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Speaker 5: and the one thing that I did do was read

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Speaker 5: about some of the Hall of Fame speeches. I didn't

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Speaker 5: watch them, but incredibly excited about some of the guys

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Speaker 5: that got inducted. And a guy that I met when

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Speaker 5: I was in New York that long his time was

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Speaker 5: long overdue, Joe Cleco. And Joe one of the best

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Speaker 5: football players that there ever was so much talent to

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Speaker 5: play defensive tackle, defensive end, nose tackle, he could play,

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Speaker 5: and he played all of those positions at a high level,

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Speaker 5: achieving I think All Pro at every one of those positions.

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Speaker 5: And he played in an era before the sacks became

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Speaker 5: an official stat and his numbers from those defensive tackle

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Speaker 5: those tackle positions were just unreal. Where I mean, there's

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Speaker 5: not many people of today that can even come close

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Speaker 5: Aaron Donald being in the exception, but Kleco was, I mean,

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Speaker 5: what just a rare combination of just brute strength, raw power,

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Speaker 5: and awareness. All right, So, preseason Week one Jaguars Cowboys

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Speaker 5: Doug Peterson has said that the starters will get some

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Speaker 5: playing time, maybe a driver two. See what happens with

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Speaker 5: that first drive if it goes a little longer, and

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Speaker 5: everybody kind of gets a touch and needs to see

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Speaker 5: what you need to see. You go over there and

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Speaker 5: sip some gatorade and hang out. But if it's a

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Speaker 5: three and out, maybe there's a couple drives in this

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Speaker 5: first game. Well, here's the thing. You want to be

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Speaker 5: able to get your first team ready. But what you

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Speaker 5: need to do we all know. Look, Calvin Ridley's gonna

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Speaker 5: make the team. Christian Kirk, he made the team.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: Is A Jones he's on there, agnew Earner, offensive weapon,

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Speaker 5: he's going to be on the football team. Now you

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Speaker 5: need to find out about all these other guys, okay,

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Speaker 5: because you know those guys are going to make the team,

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Speaker 5: because these guys are at the top of the pile. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Now you need to find out who's going to be next. Okay,

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Speaker 5: is Tim Jones going to be there? Is there somebody

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Speaker 5: else that would make you say, you know what, maybe

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Speaker 5: we need to keep an extra at this position. You

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Speaker 5: got to evaluate the guys that there's question marks about

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Speaker 5: about whether they're on this team or not. You still

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Speaker 5: want to get your starters ready, but typically in this

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Speaker 5: first preseason game, that's not what it's about it's just

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Speaker 5: giving them a taste of the excitement, the flavor, and

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Speaker 5: the mentality of getting ready to play the game. Okay,

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Speaker 5: but the real evaluation in the bulk of the reps

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Speaker 5: are going to the players that you need to learn about.

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Speaker 4: You need to.

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Speaker 5: Find out how these guys react to playing in a

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Speaker 5: game in the National Football League, and that's why then

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Speaker 5: that's where the attention needs to be in this first

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Speaker 3: Let's I mean, let's touch on a few of those

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Speaker 3: position groups that could come down to the wire, and

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Speaker 3: special teams will have a big hand in that. You

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Speaker 3: how many tight ends are you keeping? How many running

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Speaker 5: And some of the positioned I think you got a

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Speaker 5: You know, you've got some young guys that you've just

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Speaker 5: the position of most intrigued right now with this football

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Speaker 5: big question mark is corner. And then here's the other thing.

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Speaker 5: If you like your five safeties, are you going to

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Speaker 5: those safeties? Could they play a lot of nickel with

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Speaker 5: one or two different safeties? When I say one or two,

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Speaker 5: he played nickel last year in a big safety role.

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Speaker 5: Could you continue to do that? Could you also have

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Speaker 3: As we talked about before it could you could probably

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Speaker 3: change and alternate that idea of who's in that spot

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Speaker 3: depending on the opponent too, Like what matches up better

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Speaker 3: exact week to week. It could change, So plenty of

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Speaker 3: evaluation ahead. It all starts at least in game mode

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Speaker 3: Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys. In a moment Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: earlier this week discussing Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver's growth

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Speaker 3: since arriving in Jacksonville. We're often running It's the Doug

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Speaker 3: Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: He being Calvin has really done a nice job of

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Speaker 2: understanding our offense. You know, I think we're figuring him

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Speaker 2: out now he's figuring us out. Trevor and Calvin are

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Speaker 2: you know, figuring each other out.

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Speaker 4: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: And those are all things that camp. Camp provides a

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Speaker 2: lot of opportunities to kind of, you know, get on

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Speaker 2: a staff we can use him in game.

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Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week, Welcome back to

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show from the Hyundai Studios at the

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Speaker 3: Miller Electric Center. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Coach Peterson

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Speaker 3: with us in studio starting week one when the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: prepared for the Colts. So, yeah, a lot of opportunities

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Speaker 3: in camp, but everybody I think is kind of ready

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Speaker 3: to see Ridley run around and make a catch or

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many opportunities he's gonna get, but

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Speaker 5: he's an exciting player. He's got a great skill set.

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Speaker 5: It seems that the chemistry between him and Trevor is working,

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Speaker 5: and he seems to be fitting in and practice, you know,

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Speaker 5: getting along with the guys. That's competitive, there's friendly banter,

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Speaker 5: and that's important because you got a pretty good group,

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Speaker 5: you know, without Calvin Ridley that love lot. Last year

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Speaker 5: So when you add somebody in, you're always excited about

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Speaker 5: adding the talent, but you don't ever want to disrupt

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Speaker 5: the chemistry. And I think the chemistry has been really

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Speaker 5: good with Calvin Ridley. And he's hungry. I mean you

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Speaker 5: can just watch the way that he practices, and he

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Speaker 5: be you know, having a player that has great talent

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Speaker 5: he hasn't played in a football game since he played

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Speaker 5: five games two years ago. Obviously, it missed all last season,

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Speaker 5: suspended sitting at home watching it on TV, working on

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Speaker 5: his own. Not just sitting there eating cheetos. He was

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Speaker 5: He was not doing that.

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Speaker 3: He was working the whole time, and it showed when

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Speaker 4: And remember it's a contract year for him.

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Speaker 3: It is the fifth year, the final year of his

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Speaker 4: It told over.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of reasons why not just new

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Speaker 3: know it, I think you're gonna get nothing but the

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Speaker 3: best from Calvin Well. I hope, you know, and I

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Speaker 5: Can you know, can we afford to pay him? We

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Speaker 5: have Trevor Lawrence's contract on the horizon. I mean, these

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Speaker 5: and you go, gosh, we got another guy we gotta

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Speaker 5: and you hope that you're you're at that point. But JP,

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Speaker 5: I prefer the white Cheddar cheetos really for me, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a little stronger taste to it, is it really? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't even know they made those. Oh yeah they

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Speaker 5: make it. Yeah, oh yeah they make it. I don't

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Speaker 5: think I need those. No, you don't need that. No, no,

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Speaker 5: you don't need that. But Calvin Riley doesn't look like

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Speaker 5: he's ever an eight one in his way. I don't

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Speaker 5: think he's ever been done at isle. Guy is body fat.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean some of these guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look the year round training, in the in

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Speaker 5: even have more beneficial training that's away from the team.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's next level stuff. I mean way

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Speaker 5: next level stuff. And so these guys are machines nowadays,

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Speaker 5: tremendously fine tuned machines. And it's fun to watch. It's

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Speaker 5: it's fun to watch a guy like Cisco who come

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Speaker 2: You know, Devon really showed up, you know, last year.

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Speaker 3: to The Doug Peterson Show, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logeman coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he had, he had if you if you looked

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Speaker 3: We'll hear from JAG's safety Andre Cisco. It's year three.

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Speaker 3: He looks different on the field. What goes into it,

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Speaker 7: for me, I mean, honestly, it's mostly about just making

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Speaker 7: myself comfortable being uncomfortable again in those positions of you know, returns,

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Speaker 7: one of the hardest things to do in the game,

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Speaker 7: and so I'm just making myself comfortable with tracking the

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Speaker 7: ball in that aspect. But but coach knows that I'm reliable,

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Speaker 7: so if it ever comes to it, I could get

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Speaker 7: back there fair catch some from how.

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Speaker 3: Much time do you need in Saturday's game? Just how

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Speaker 3: much would you like to have?

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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, like, these opportunities are are few and

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Speaker 7: far far betweens at the right word, Yeah, they I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 7: NFL Game d is the NFL game Day. So for me,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out there with the right mindset and

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Speaker 7: approach it like a game because you can't take it.

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Speaker 7: You can't take it for granted. I mean I've had

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Speaker 7: this is two years now. I still understand, like how

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Speaker 7: delicate these situations are. You still want to approach it

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Speaker 7: and be grateful to opportunity. So I'm gonna get there.

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Speaker 7: If I get him, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Work Andre Cisco, third year safety. Good to hear from him,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, he's a big piece obviously this defense on

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Speaker 3: the back end, I found it notable. Yeah, he's getting

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Speaker 3: some at least catching some punts early in practice just

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Speaker 3: to see it.

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Speaker 4: And he admitted it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if they need a fair catch or something and

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Speaker 3: other guys are out, Hey, okay, maybe who knows you

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Speaker 3: don't want to go.

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Speaker 4: Catch only that's what he said. Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: Hey, but he's bigger, he's seen it a few years now.

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Speaker 3: You talked about his ball skills and his ability to

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Speaker 3: go up and get it. All that combining with experience

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Speaker 3: on top, this should be a big year for Andre

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Speaker 3: Well and I hope he continues to just improve all

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Speaker 3: of his skills. You know, the ball skills are there,

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Speaker 3: but playing safety is so much more and playing the

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Speaker 3: safety position, you've got an opportunity impact the game in

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Speaker 3: a big way by taking the ball away. And want

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Speaker 3: to see him get more opportunities. And also as a tackler,

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Speaker 3: I thought he made some pretty good strides last year.

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Speaker 3: And in order to play that position. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: tackle when you're safety because you're attacking and you're typically

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Speaker 3: trying to tackle a guy in a pretty big area.

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Speaker 3: So the ball carry has a lot of space. It's

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Speaker 3: a little easier to tackle when you're a linebacker a

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Speaker 3: defensive lineman. You've got people in a constricted area. You've

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Speaker 3: typically got better angles when you're coming straight down the

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Speaker 3: hill from safety position. I mean, guys can give you

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Speaker 3: a little shake and go the opposite direction. That's not

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Speaker 3: easy to tackle. So I think he's gotten better in

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Speaker 3: that category. But I'm excited to watch. I mean, typically

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Speaker 3: most of the guys that end up playing in this league,

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Speaker 3: when they get to like years three and four is

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Speaker 3: when you really start to see them blossom.

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Speaker 4: You see a big.

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Speaker 5: Jump from year one to year two, but year three

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Speaker 5: is where they really get comfortable. And this is right

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Speaker 5: there at the sweet spot for Cisco. Sharp guy too.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's he's incredibly sure. He's a joy to

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Speaker 5: talk to. Yes, he's a joy to talk to and

497
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Speaker 5: smart guy. He's he's very aware. He is serious about ball,

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Speaker 5: and he knows exactly what his game is, where it

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Speaker 5: needs to be, and what he talked about with Trevor about.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. It's incredibly hard to pick him off.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, Trevor is taking the leaps and bounds

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Speaker 5: as well in year three. Yeah, and that iron sharpens iron, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean you hear that term a lot.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Look, competitive competitive fire always makes the fire hotter. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's another way to say that. I mean, it's you

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Speaker 5: just love it. I mean, when you got excellent players

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Speaker 5: playing against each other, it rises their level of play.

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Speaker 5: And that's the one thing about having a great roster.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, look, I know that this is

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Speaker 5: next week, but next week, you know, when we you know,

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars get the opportunity to go up and practice

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Speaker 5: against the Detroit Lions, you know we're going to see

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Speaker 5: a great opportunity that this team is going to have

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Speaker 5: up there as well, because as we look at you know,

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Speaker 5: the people are saying, oh, do the Jaguars have a

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Speaker 5: pass rush as Trayvon Walker taking the next step?

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Speaker 4: Is Josh Dalen going to be able to do that?

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Speaker 4: Is just hear.

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Speaker 5: Adula going to be able to be a good outside guy. Well,

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Speaker 5: next week you're going to be facing two of the

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Speaker 5: best tackles in the National Football League that the Detroit

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Speaker 5: Lions have. And that's gonna be another example of where

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Speaker 5: you're talking about, you know, the iron sharpening iron, great,

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Speaker 5: great opportunity.

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Speaker 4: When we return.

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson on what the team got out of the

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Speaker 3: live practice Monday, Tackling to the Ground. This is the

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: I look at a little bit differently. I put the

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Speaker 2: team in those situations because I I want to see

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Speaker 2: who's the mentally tough are a little bit and for

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Speaker 2: the most part, everybody did a nice job. The ones

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Speaker 2: that you know got reps in there those two periods

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Speaker 2: that we went live, and it's good to see. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't do it a ton in training camp. But

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Speaker 2: it's also good for the defense to tackle. You know,

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Speaker 2: ball carriers need to understand, you know, you gotta protect

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Speaker 2: the football when you get hit and things like.

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Speaker 3: That, said coach Doug Peterson, of course, and welcome back

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Speaker 3: to the Doug Peterson Show. JP Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars Saturday, Sunday, Monday worked in full pads three

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Speaker 3: days in a row, but the Monday practice included some

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Speaker 3: live periods, meaning tackling to the ground. Yes, protecting your

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Speaker 3: team still, but yeah, as Doug said, right there, log,

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Speaker 3: you don't really throw those live periods out there too

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Speaker 3: often anymore. And you know, part of it is the

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Speaker 3: tackling part of it. You've got to improve in that area.

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Speaker 3: Certainly on the defensive side. But hey, can these guys

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Speaker 3: handle it? Can they handle the heat of it? I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was a hot day on Sunday. It's been hot

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Speaker 3: all week, but certainly was on Monday. And then you

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Speaker 3: got teammates tackling you. Can they kind of keep their composure?

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Speaker 3: Can they get through the practice and improve as it goes?

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Speaker 3: And by all reports, and you heard the most important

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Speaker 3: one there, Doug Peterson say, hey, it went pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it went well.

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Speaker 5: And what's the best thing about everything that's happened so

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Speaker 5: far is that everybody's staying healthy.

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Speaker 3: Would a particle would have something I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it's real, would I don't know. Anyway, it's got some

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Speaker 3: kind of material in theres That's why I was knocking

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Speaker 3: on it, because you want to make sure that everybody

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Speaker 3: stays healthy. In this team has been able to be

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Speaker 3: healthy for the most part, and you want to make

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Speaker 3: sure that that continues. And that's always a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a concern that you have a live drike, you know,

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Speaker 3: do you risk injury? Well, there's always the risk of

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Speaker 3: injury playing football, whether you're in live contact or there's

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Speaker 3: not contact. It's just look it's just it's part of

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Speaker 3: the game, and so you hope that everybody has that

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Speaker 3: comes through it. Okay, and so far, so good for

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Speaker 3: this football team. And that's goal number one of the preseasons.

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Speaker 3: Get your work in and come out healthy. And it

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Speaker 3: was a demanding practice and you could tell that there

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Speaker 3: was a little bit of pushing and shoving, a little

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Speaker 3: extracurricular and a couple of drills. There was a couple

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Speaker 3: of fisticuffs thrown and one on one pass rusher, I

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Speaker 3: guess you could say, and it was in kind of

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Speaker 3: a combination drill where he's like two on two pass

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Speaker 3: rush on one side of the line of scrimmage, where

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Speaker 3: DJ Coleman, a rookie from Missouri, ended up throwing some

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Speaker 3: fistic cuffs that were completely unnecessary. And I thought Phil

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Speaker 3: Rauscher was going to grab.

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Speaker 5: Him and head butt him and and throw fist to

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Speaker 5: cuffs himself. But yeah, you know, you know, just a

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Speaker 5: real quick note on that. I mean, those things happened,

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Speaker 5: But what you love to see when something like that

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Speaker 5: happens is a guy like Roy Robinson Harris grabbing the

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Speaker 5: rookie and talking to him and kind of explaining to

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Speaker 5: him how things are done and how things need to

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Speaker 5: be and what it's like to be a professional, and

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Speaker 5: what you just did is not that and one thing

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Speaker 5: for good to see.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing for a coach to say that Rauscher

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Speaker 3: kicking him out or Brinson Buckner even who played a

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 4: In this league.

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Speaker 3: But when you're to your point, when a teammate's over

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Speaker 3: there saying it, it just hits home a little different.

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's where you want to get, you know,

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Speaker 5: as a team and as an organization is look, leadership

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Speaker 5: is always starts at the top, and the messaging is

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Speaker 5: given at the top, but then it has to filter

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Speaker 5: through the locker room and through the players. And when

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Speaker 5: you have the players starting to police okay for lack

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Speaker 5: of a better term, or police the locker room to

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Speaker 5: make sure that okay, the culture is this okay and

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Speaker 5: what you just did doesn't fit our culture. When that

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Speaker 5: message comes from the players in the locker room itself,

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Speaker 5: that's when you know you have something that could be

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Speaker 5: really special. They won't have any more live practice, will

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Speaker 5: they just one day?

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Speaker 4: Right? Probably not?

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Speaker 5: Because you have well, I mean, you have practices against Detroit.

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Speaker 5: You're you're probably not going to do anything live against them,

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Speaker 5: and then the last week, which is going into the

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Speaker 5: Miami game. Okay, the best evaluation from here on out

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Speaker 5: is the games themselves, because that just doesn't compare. You know,

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Speaker 5: a live practice rep is not as good as a

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Speaker 5: live game rep.

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Speaker 4: It's just different, much different.

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Speaker 5: You know, the lights when the lights come on. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's that's what you want to evaluate. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: you know, and game plans. You know, practice you're not.

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Speaker 5: It's not like you're stressing again. You know, you're not

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Speaker 5: having game plans against other guys, and so the reps

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Speaker 5: that you're going to get, and there's going to be

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Speaker 5: a lot of reps for a lot of different guys

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Speaker 5: once you get past those front line guys. I think

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Speaker 5: it's going to be real interesting to see what they

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Speaker 5: do in that last preseason game against Miami. And I'm

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Speaker 5: also this next one. You know, we kind of know

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Speaker 5: what the plan is for this week, and then in

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Speaker 5: Detroit you're going to be practicing against them for two days,

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Speaker 5: So how much will you play your guys there? And

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Speaker 5: then for the last preseason game, which is now the

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Speaker 5: third and last preseason game, what's your approach going to

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Speaker 5: be there. I mean in the past, we've seen last

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Speaker 5: preseason games where some coaches don't play anybody. But you

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Speaker 5: have a two week window from the last preseason game

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Speaker 5: to the opener, so that may and some people's minds

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Speaker 5: change the way you would approach that.

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Speaker 3: And there's no roster cutdown until after that final game anymore.

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Speaker 3: So you're not trimming that. You got all ninety guys all.

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Speaker 5: The way through, which gives you the opportunity to continue

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Speaker 5: the evaluation process all the way through that third and

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Speaker 5: last preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of that third and last final preseason game, the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars take on the Miami Dolphins at home. In that

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Speaker 3: game in a preseason matchup at Saturday, August twenty sixth

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Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. Running Backs tanked Bigsby step

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Speaker 3: right up. It'll be a big day Saturday for the

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Speaker 3: rookie out of Auburn. We'll get into the Jaguars running

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Speaker 3: back room when we return. It's the Doug Peterson Show

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Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back the Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think you still gotta be careful

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Speaker 2: with how much you expand his role. I think he's

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Speaker 2: he's done a nice job, you know so far. There's

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Speaker 2: still some learning to do and and some growing to

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Speaker 2: do as a you know, as a rookie. But you know,

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Speaker 2: keeping him kind of where he is right now is

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Speaker 2: a good thing, and expand maybe as you go. I

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Speaker 2: don't you know, we're only two weeks in, you know,

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Speaker 2: of camp, and you know there's a lot of football

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Speaker 2: ahead of us. So we're just gonna pump the brakes

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Speaker 2: and make sure he's you know, he'd go to what

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Speaker 2: he can handle him.

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Speaker 3: That's head coach Doug Peterson discussing Tank Bigsby Jaguars rookie

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Speaker 3: running back and Welcome back to the Doug Peterson Show

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Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 4: JP, Shadwick, Jeff Logman.

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Speaker 3: Coach Peterson will join us in the studio again week

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Speaker 3: one when the Jaguars face the Colts. This week it's

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Speaker 3: pre season week one, the Jaguars face the Cowboys. That's

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Speaker 3: Doug right there, was talking about, hey, let's just let

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Speaker 3: him play. We're not going to overload him with all

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Speaker 3: these different ideas and things. Let's let's kind of step

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Speaker 3: by step with Tank. But the steps so far, there's

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Speaker 3: been moments on the practice field where he has flashed well.

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Speaker 3: And I think the one thing that's flashed you go

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Speaker 3: back to this weekend or early this week, I can't

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Speaker 3: remember which it was, where he had a run and

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Speaker 3: he broke through and nobody could catch him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's the one thing I think that they think they

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Speaker 3: don't think about with Tank.

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Speaker 5: Bigsby for two reasons. One, he's a bigger back. His

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Speaker 5: name doesn't imply that he's fast. I mean, his tanks

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Speaker 5: are not fast, right, but he literally is faster than

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Speaker 5: ETN And most people say no, way, yes, way. He

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Speaker 5: actually timed faster in the forty than Travis ETN.

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Speaker 4: Which is unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Travis is very fast back, but Bigsby is fast, and

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Speaker 5: he also has the subtle efficient moves to get in

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Speaker 5: the hole. And that's what I love about him. I

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Speaker 5: think there was and you've heard I think it was

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Speaker 5: last week we were talking about Doug had this quote

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Speaker 5: about patience, not speed to the hole, but through the hole, okay,

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Speaker 5: And he was talking about ETN specifically, I think and

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Speaker 5: that you know, be decisive and then hit it once

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Speaker 5: you see it. And with Travis last year, he was

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Speaker 5: trying to hit the hole fast to the whole. He

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Speaker 5: was fast, not through the hole. Well, Bigsby is just

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Speaker 5: a little different, and so they're going to be great

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Speaker 5: complimentary backs. And what I'm excited about too, and most

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Speaker 5: people don't even think about this, is that what if

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Speaker 5: you have both of these guys on the field at

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Speaker 5: the same time. Well, that and out would allow you

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Speaker 5: to have ETN split out. You know, the matchups that

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Speaker 5: you could get on linebackers. And then you're also talking

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Speaker 5: about two guys that are incredibly fast. I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: a great opportunity for an offensive coordinator to be able

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Speaker 5: to do creative things when you have that kind of personnel.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, they got a lot of talent on offense.

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Speaker 5: I mean skill position wise. The running back room is deep,

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Speaker 5: the wide receiver room is deep, the tight end group

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Speaker 5: is I think solid as ever, You've got three legitimate

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Speaker 5: receiving tight ends on this roster. Brenton Stranger, draft pick

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Speaker 5: Evan Ingram obviously, and then Prince Prince has shown great

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Speaker 5: things so far so I mean Press Taylor, Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 5: Mike McCoy, Phil Rauscher, all these offensive coaches. They're going

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Speaker 5: to have some fun with some game plans this year.

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Speaker 5: One football. They go to spread it around well. And

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Speaker 5: I think that you've got a really good group that's unselfish,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's that was proven last year with

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Speaker 5: the wide receiver group. And you've you've added one guy

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Speaker 5: to that and some young players, and the young players

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Speaker 5: kind of follow a long suit, you know. And and

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Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley is a guy that I think is going

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Speaker 5: to buy into that philosophy. And I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: how they deploy this multitude of weapons that they have

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Speaker 5: on offense. We'll get our first, well little taste. It

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Speaker 5: won't be the full arsenal, but they'll be on the

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Speaker 5: field playing football Saturday. We're not gonna see ETN and

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Speaker 5: Bigsby on the field at the same time in this

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Speaker 5: exotic formation with Calvin Ridley doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to see that. I mean, all those

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Speaker 5: things that they're going to have in their playbook and

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Speaker 5: they're going to be able to unveil at some point,

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Speaker 5: but that's not the preseason is not the place to

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Speaker 5: have those plays. And I'm looking forward to watching what

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Speaker 5: they do design, But right now, you want to see

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Speaker 5: the meat and potatoes performances. What's the most basic run play,

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Speaker 5: like a like a draw, handoff ISO something, just a

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Speaker 5: zone play, zone play. But look, you know, look, we're

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Speaker 5: talking about a running back room and and I know

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Speaker 5: it's not sexy to talk about offensive lineman. It is

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Speaker 5: a little bit if one's a first round pick. But

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm also looking forward to watching Cooper Hodges. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you know Cooper Hodges. I think is is making some

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Speaker 5: strides in camp, and he was a tackle at Appalachian State.

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Speaker 5: He's a local kid, and I know he's got a

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Speaker 5: fan base that's going to be natural. He and when

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Speaker 5: I when I watch him, he has a level of

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Speaker 5: strength that I don't know if anybody else at that

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Speaker 5: guard position has really Yes, including.

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Speaker 4: Name them all, Tyler Shatley.

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Speaker 5: Shatley's pretty strong, but he doesn't have the anchor You've

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Speaker 5: said for.

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Speaker 3: The decade, I know that that Tyler Shatley is the

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Speaker 3: strongest guy on the team literally a decade.

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Speaker 5: I think in the weight room he's the strongest guy

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Speaker 5: and he's still incredibly strong in year ten.

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Speaker 4: I think it is right. And and but Cooper.

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Speaker 5: Hodges, he's a he's broad shouldered, he's he's a natural,

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Speaker 5: so he's not an inflated three hundred pound guy. He's

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Speaker 5: a natural, walking around three hundred pound guy. But he's

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Speaker 5: got a natural level of strength. And general manager has

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Speaker 5: given him a nickname that it just sticks in my mind,

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Speaker 5: and that's Trent Balky obviously calls him tug boat.

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Speaker 4: I think it's stuck with the fans.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea where in the hell that came from,

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Speaker 5: but he's used that term with and it's just it's

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Speaker 5: stuck before practice, right when they're breaking out for stretch.

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Speaker 3: Uh, he goes over in front of the grand stands

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Speaker 3: and gets the crowd fired up with his hands and

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Speaker 3: then he does a cartwheel. Yeah, and then the lineman

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Speaker 3: love it the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's you know, and all that's fine and dandy,

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Speaker 5: But what's going to excite me is the performance. And

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to watching him. And and this is

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Speaker 5: a process. You know, he's a he's a young player

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Speaker 5: that's playing a different position. He was a tackle at

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Speaker 5: Appalachian State. I didn't think he had the feet, and

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Speaker 5: I don't think he has the feet to play tackle

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Speaker 5: at this level. But I think he's got the disposition

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Speaker 5: for sure, and he's got a level of strength to

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Speaker 5: play guard. I think he's going to be a really

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Speaker 5: good football player at some point. That that may be

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Speaker 5: a year down the road. Okay, two years down the road,

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Speaker 5: but but that's a position that you draft and develop,

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Speaker 5: especially with a guy that's in the later rounds, and

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Speaker 5: a lot of people say, well, why are you getting

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Speaker 5: excited about that?

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Speaker 3: Well, man, because this might be your starting guard for

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Speaker 3: a decade, you know, in another year or two, and

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Speaker 3: that's the reason to be excited, you know, so uh

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Speaker 3: excited to watch him play against some other personnel. We're

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Speaker 3: back in a moment a preview of Saturday's matchup against

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. It's the Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: Even the young guys from last year. You know, you

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Speaker 2: look at you know, Chad Muoman as a young second

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Speaker 2: year linebacker who's gonna get plenty of you know, plenty

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Speaker 2: of time not only in pre season but the regular season.

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Speaker 2: You look at the young secondary guys who are gonna

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Speaker 2: get a lot of opportunities this spring or this, uh,

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Speaker 2: this this training camp that's encouraging, and it gives you

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Speaker 2: depth on special teams, you know, and there's some there's

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Speaker 2: some key roles there that we can fill. So I

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Speaker 2: think we're in a better position than we were your

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Speaker 2: ago depth wise, and it'll be you know, it'll be

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Speaker 2: difficult at the end to make some challenging, you know, decisions.

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Speaker 4: Said coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to The Doug Peterson Show, JP, Shadwick, Jeff

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Speaker 3: Loghman Final a couple of minutes here. The Jaguars face

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys Saturday, five o'clock. We're on the air

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Speaker 3: on the network with countdown to kickoff at four. We'll

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Speaker 3: hear from Fred Taylor, We'll hear from a whole assortment

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Speaker 3: of folks. We're gonna hear from you logs. It'll be

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Speaker 3: over in Dallas. Call I will be, I will be.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking forward to that. Like I said earlier,

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Speaker 3: it's a great venue, arguably the best in the National

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Speaker 3: Football League. I mean, there's some other ones that I

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Speaker 3: really like too, but it's a this is a great,

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Speaker 3: great venue. It's very classy, you know when you walk around,

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Speaker 3: and I can tell you if we get something that's

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Speaker 3: similar to that in Jacksonville here in the future, is

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Speaker 3: gonna be amazing game changer, absolutely, big time, no doubt

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Speaker 3: about it. So the starters will get some time. We've

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Speaker 3: gone through that earlier. But hey, driver too for the offense.

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Speaker 3: Get him out of the air, sip some Gatorade ice up,

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Speaker 3: and I get ready for next week's practices. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not so quick to dismiss. Okay, let's just get

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Speaker 3: the start of reps and that it's over with. I mean,

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Speaker 3: for me, you know, I really enjoy the preseason games

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Speaker 3: from the standpoint of I want to find out about

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Speaker 3: who the next corner is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: That's what Doug was just talking about. The depth is there,

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Speaker 4: let's see.

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Speaker 5: It, Yes, And I want to find out how the

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Speaker 5: wide receiver group at that sixth spot kind of is

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Speaker 5: going to work out. I want to see Harris, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I want to see Tim Jones. They've got Austin. I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of guys that are showing some really

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Speaker 5: good things at that position. The safety position, Okay, are

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Speaker 5: you going to be able to keep five, you know?

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Speaker 5: And if you keep five, does that impact the cornerback position?

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Speaker 5: You see her Abdulah. I can't wait to watch him.

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Speaker 5: He's wearing my old number, especial, So I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: a fan to begin with because he's got a great number.

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Speaker 5: But I want to see how his lack of length

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Speaker 5: but his naturalness transfers into the National Football League?

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Speaker 4: Did he pick it because of you?

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Speaker 5: No, you don't have any clue who I am, which

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Speaker 5: is totally five. Who doesn't know Jeff Flaghan Come on,

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Speaker 5: he doesn't, but he will soon. I'm gonna introduce myself

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Speaker 5: to him.

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Speaker 3: To him still, Sue, get ready, you sere Thanks to

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Speaker 3: Joe Fortunato on the audio reaver on the video Andre Cisco,

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Speaker 3: who joined us a little earlier this week, but the

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Speaker 3: full conversation on the Official Jaguars Podcast Network.

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Speaker 4: For Jeff Flagman, I'm JP Shadrick. Catch you next on

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars Radio Network.