1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Calf I AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, obviously, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: we're still watching what's going on in the San Berdadino 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Mountain communities that have been inundated with snow for the 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. The numbers are unbelievably off the charts, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: and we've visited this story the last two days. At 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: this time with our reporter Blake Trolley. Right now we 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: have a chance to talk to Don Rowe, who is 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: chair of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, and 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: of course these mountain communities are in her district. Don Good, afternoon, gentlemen, 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. So this morning, it appears that 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom is going to send the National Guard and 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: cal fire. What are the details on that? So the 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: details that I have so far, we've seen aerial sort 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: of military style black Auk helicopters patrolling the mountain areas 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: doing an assessment right now, and I think that they're 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: doing it for all of the counties that are under 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: that order. And then tomorrow we expect a supply list 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: of what we might be receiving in terms of resources. 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: We're going to meet with our state partners this afternoon. 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: We have a meeting coming up here at two thirty 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: to see what they can get us and how quickly 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: they can get it to us, and will this diminish 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: this timeline of a week or more before we can 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: get to everybody optimistically? Yes, So what kind of equipment 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: are they going to bring? Do you know? Oh, I 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: have no idea, stay tuned for that. So imagine I 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: would imagine more snow plows, the snow cats vehicles right 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: go ahead. We've had so much snow that a plow 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: really can't do it. You need a loader to kind 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: of scoop and dump, so you can't. It's now heavy 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and hard packed on some of those streets. So we 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: need equipment that has chains on it. We need operate 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: to go with the equipment also. But this is like 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: gravel and dirt removal, but it's like you got to 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: dig it out. That's what's taken so long. And then 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: you have to have a place to put it. You 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: can't just push it off to the side of the road. 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Where is it going to go? Do you think, well, 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: we're hopeful to have dump trucks that we can have 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: preposition to put it in. And then we do have 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: mountain areas that we're identifying that have open space that 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: we can dump there that won't create a secondary impact. 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Do we know of any real emergencies that have occurred 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: up there, like medical or anything that or people really 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: in the need of food and water as it gotten so, 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: diary if you've got any messages where we have to 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: do something really swiftly for anybody. We have had a 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: number of nine one one calls. They are all being 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: responded to by County Fire and County Sheriff. Our snowcats 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: are going in to take people that have those medical 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: emergencies out. We have had no reports of any delays 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: in that. I mean, it might take a little bit 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: to get a cat up to them, but they're getting out. 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: The most important people thing that people can do is 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: really neighbor help a neighbor in these mountain communities. Were 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: the people aware that this storm was going to be 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: this big? To what extent was it a surprise the 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: size of the storm. Well, I think we had a 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: couple things happened. We had back to back storms, and 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: then we also had down trees and down power lines 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: that really kind of stopped that initial effort from getting 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: in emplowing those roads where we had houses and in 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: the communities, and resources were diverted to those down power 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: lined areas and the tree removal, and so that prolonged 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of the response initially. But I don't 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us could foresee this level 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: of it's wet snow and it's packed in there, and 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: then the two storms back to back, that's what really 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of has hampered us. I just look at the 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: forecast and it looks like most days coming up it's 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: going to be slightly above freezing, so you're going to 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: get a little bit of snow melt and then you're 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a hard freeze again at night. And I 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: wondered how the danger apart, Yeah, how that complicates things. 76 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: So I just left. I was able to get only 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: up to our Crest Line community with our county fire 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: chief to do an assessment of Goodwin's Market where the 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: roof collapsed, and they are the major lifeline for grocery 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: distribution in that community, and so we just left there. 81 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: And those roads are really single lane. I mean, you 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: can pass two, but you're kind of going up on 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: a snow burm and it's tricky, and it's with melted 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: snow underneath us right now. If we were doing it 85 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: at night, there would be lots of slipping and sliding. Yeah, 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see how one lane road functions 87 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: because you could get deep down a road and come 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: up face to face against an oncoming vehicle. And then 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: why we have County, County and Caltrans have moved snowblowers 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: into the area and it looks like a little mint 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: cat with a plow on the front that tipes it 92 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: up and shoots out the snow to the side. And 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: that has helped those one lane roads to make them 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: one and a half two lanes. We're trying to get 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: those done on the materials right now. Were you surprised 96 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: that the state government came through this morning, because yesterday 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: it seemed like nobody was listening. I don't know if 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm surprised, I'm just excited. I'm just I mean, the 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: state has really done a lot to try to communicate 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: with us and to keep They're empathetic, they're trying to help, 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about it. Now. They got a lot 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: of other counties, especially up in the north, up in 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the Sierras that are having the same problems, maybe not 104 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: to the extent that Sam Bernardino is. Is there any 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: sense that California's going to need federal help just because 106 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: there's so much widespread difficulty out there. One of the 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: things I talked to our local congressman about yesterday was 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: trying to assist in the form of small business loans. 109 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: We want to see people back up and enjoying our 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: local mountains, but just not until it's safe. Our local 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: businesses where they close their doors because they don't have 112 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: patrons to come up and visit them, that's going to 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: be devastating. So that's another secondary effect of this storm. 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: So can we get relief from the Small Business Administration 115 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: to help those small businesses with any kind of help, 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: so that that is one of the federal questions that 117 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: I've asked. All Right, Dahn, thank you for coming on 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: the show. We appreciate it. Thank you guys, have a 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: great afternoon. Well it's Dawn Row. She's chair of the 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors and of course her district, 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about this yesterday. She is, you know, 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the government rep for these mountain communities that have been 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: in and dated with snow. They don't have city councils 124 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: or mayors or anything like that local government. She's like 125 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: the mayor for much of the SHANEBURNYDA Council's everything. She's 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the all things. She's their only linked to any kind 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: of outside government help that they've been asking for. But 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: as John said, Newsom finally declared a state of emergency 129 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: for thirteen California counties. Of course one of them San 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Bernardino County. And then we see a schedule for today 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: and all it says is Governor Newsom has left the state. 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Well that's nice, Oh, get away from a little ski 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: holiday with his family. It doesn't say where just left. 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: He's gone. He's gone. Oh, all right, schedule from March two. 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: He's left the state, declared a state of emergency and left. Well, 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: it's dangerous to state California. There's a lot of people 137 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: in peril right now. Did you see those snow cats. No, 138 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I remember, they're really cool. I mean they have a 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: they have a cab and then bedneath them they have 140 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: these huge treads that that it rides on. So I 141 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: because I guess the danger for normal vehicles, it would 142 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: it would sink in the snow. Right, it can't get 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: any tread, but these things can can perch I a 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: top all that snow, and with such wide treads, h 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: it's able to move across the top of the snow banks. Yeah, 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: because I kept thinking they're just gonna sink in, you know, 147 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: some of these snow The snow is several feet high 148 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: and it's soft enough. Anybody trying to drive through it 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: is going to sink in and then get stuck at it. 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: H These totals from the US National Weather Service as 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: of yesterday, ninety one inches at Crestline and ninety nine 152 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: inches of snow at Lake Arrowhead. That's mean, donbelievable. That 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: is eight feet of snow. Even more locally, Mount Baldy 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: and Snow Summit one hundred and six inches, and then 155 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty was the number for Snow Valley, 156 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: which is a good name for it. That's the mountain total, 157 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: that's the Snow Valley is one of the ski resorts 158 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: at Big Bear and Snow Summit is a ski resort 159 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: near Running Springs. Now is there such a thing as 160 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: too much snow for people to ski? And people can't 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: get up there either to ski. So if they get 162 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: if the if the snow is too high, then the 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: chair lifts can't can't get over it, right, yeah, can't right? Right? 164 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: All right? We got more covered up. John and Ken 165 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: kf I AM six forty Live everywhere the Eye Heart 166 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: Radio app. You're listening to John and Ken on demand 167 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: from kf I AM sixty. Well, apparently the governor's office 168 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: did respond to our news reporter Blake Trolley, about Newsom 169 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: being out of the state. Oh, he's on personal travel. 170 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: He'll be returning next Sunday. As protocol, and the governor's 171 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: on personal or family travel, we do not provide details 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: about the tip. So I took a right guess. It 173 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: is probably a little family trip for ski week or 174 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: whatever they do at a private schools or his kids 175 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: go or something like that. I hope he's not going 176 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: to one of those states where we banned travel. Well, 177 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: of course, see, well he does all the time. I 178 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: know it goes up to Montana because that's where his 179 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: wife's family is. Yeah, we see a band travel to 180 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: Montana because they don't pass the proper sexuality laws supposed 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: to tell your wife, Well, your parents live in the 182 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: wrong state. Screw to them. I can't go see them. Yeah, 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: all right, let's bring on Blake Trolley for more on 184 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: the mountain communities of San Bernardino County and their problems 185 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: with the getting help and getting out from the big snowfall. Hey, Blake, 186 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: so what's going on right now? Yeah? So, well, I 187 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: just heard you guys try to get some details on it, 188 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: and that's been about my journey through most of this. 189 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: The governor again declared a state of emergency last night, 190 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: and a few of the big takeaways from that are 191 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: Calguard crewise or hand cruise, and National Guard crewise are 192 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: now ready to help out. I understand that a National 193 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: Guard Blackhawk black Hawk helicopter and crew is now on 194 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: stand by, ready to assist with you know, rescue rescue missions. Uh. Yeah, sorry, 195 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: I was having a hard time with that work. But 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I think that my brain is freezing, so okay. I 197 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: think quite possibly the most effective change that this um 198 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: could have brought, you know, could bring to the region, 199 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: is that private companies are now being hired to come 200 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: in and remove snow at an accelerated pace. I want 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: to go to this interview clip. I just I spoke 202 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: recently with Ashley Wineberger. She lives in the Crest Line area. 203 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: She gave me an update from her house today. I 204 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: hadn't heard from her in a few days, and she 205 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: informed me that Wi Fi and cell service, so all 206 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: of it went out last Wednesday and we're only up 207 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: for a total of four hours since going out last Wednesday. 208 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Here's an update from her house today. From my house, 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: we haven't been able to leave since Wednesday, so it's 210 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: been just over a week. We finally got plowed, which 211 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: is nice, but looking at my kitchen window, you know, 212 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm five four and the snow just from our driveway 213 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: from what I can see, is above my eye level, 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: which is insane. The streets are plowed, but the berms 215 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: are fifteen twelve to fifteen feet high and some spots, 216 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: so we haven't been able to really get out of 217 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: our neighborhood, which is only four streets to see the 218 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: main highway. The one thirty eight well takes you to 219 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the one thirty eight Skyfloorest Road and waters I mean 220 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: down to just one lane halfway PLoud. So they're trying 221 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: to work on it and I'll know more a little 222 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: bit later once we are able to take a walk 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: and actually see the neighborhood. So again I'm waiting for 224 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: an update from her. But guys, she lives in the 225 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Crest Line area, and yesterday you had heard about that 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: grocery store roof collapsing. I looked into that. Today that 227 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: grocery store is still closed. She says she wasn't able 228 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to leave her house for six days. So now she's 229 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: just emerged. A lot of people are just starting to 230 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: emerge in the area and they have nowhere to go 231 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: get more food. I have seen that the San Bernardino 232 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department is running food deliveries up the mountain. 233 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: But again, a big issue, and she gave me an 234 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: outlook of challenges. I know you guys were trying to 235 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: dig into this yesterday. So I asked her, you know, 236 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: what's going on with your neighbors and with everybody on 237 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: the road. And here's what you had to say. I mean, luckily, 238 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: we have a snowblower, so we kept up our cars. 239 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, the only cars that I've seen on all 240 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: the streets that can get out. We're lucky enough to 241 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: have a garage. All of my other neighbors don't the 242 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: one right across the street. He is unfortunately diabetic and 243 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: manages his diabetes through his nutrition, and he ran out 244 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: of all of his food. That's okay for him, so 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: he can only shovel, you know, a few minutes out 246 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: of time without feeling like he's going to pass out. 247 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Then our other navels across the street have a one 248 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: year old and they haven't been able to dig out 249 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: at all. And unfortunately the berm got pushed up right 250 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: against their cars, so they have a six foot wall 251 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: to get to the street after they shovel out the 252 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: eight feet of snow that's on top of their cars. 253 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty insane. And they top of the car and 254 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: it's blocked by six feet that that they that they 255 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: plowed up against it. It's just an absolute mess. And 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, we've heard these these complaints that the state 257 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: acted too late and setting those those guard crews, setting 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: those CalFire crews, and Ashley is one of those people one. 259 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're so far behind on all the snow 260 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: that we have accumulated. Should have been happening throughout the 261 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: entire storm and not at the end when people are 262 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: already stuck in their homes. And have been for multiple 263 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: days when this one percent could have been avoided had 264 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: we had had all those extra resources then instead of now, Yeah, 265 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: there isn't much preventative action or just getting in place 266 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: to go to war from moment one. And and these 267 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: forecasts were were quite detailed and and accurate up to 268 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: the point where you knew you were going to get 269 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: three or four feet of snow. Maybe not six to 270 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: eight feet of snow, but three to four feet is enough. 271 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: And it just seemed like everything should have been prepositioned 272 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and ready to go. Do we see the first stance? 273 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: And you know, John, don't go ahead? Oh sorry, what's up? 274 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I think we got a delay, So just go gotcha. Yet, 275 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: we're starting to see some really interesting issues come out 276 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: from all of this. You know, one thing that that 277 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm I saw one report about this and I saw 278 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: on social media, and that's that gas meters are starting 279 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: to get way down with snow and explode and the 280 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: San Berardino County Fire Department actually tweeted about a gas 281 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: explosion today. The reports I saw were social media reports 282 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: that these are now getting way down and causing explosions. 283 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: So just another issue on top of all the other 284 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: headaches we've heard about with this snowstorm. All Right, Blake, 285 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much for that update. All right, thanks guys. 286 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: All right, Blake Trolley. Of course, he's been covering the 287 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: mountain communities of San Berdino County and what they're going 288 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: through and trying to dig out from a massive snowfall. 289 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Something else that is going on outside of the San 290 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Bernardino Mountain communities, and there's snow problems are happening on 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: streets around southern California. Of course, John, as you know, 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: with all the money we spent, we have the best 293 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: roads in the nation. I mean, we've called that all 294 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: the time, but with signs that say we're proud that 295 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: this is funded with your taxes and your tax dollars. 296 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: At work, sink holes are popping up. Sometimes they're taking 297 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: people's cars and suck them right inside. Its happened outside 298 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: of Santa Paula High School in Ventura County. A car, 299 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: thankfully nobody was in, fell inside a sinkhole there. Apparently 300 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: there was a another sinkhole at a cow State, LA 301 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: underneath Circle Drive. I understand that his state of emergency 302 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: that knew some issued also deals with getting more crews 303 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: out quicker to try to patch up the roads because 304 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: you have your average pothole, which is only going to 305 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: get worse. But sinkhole is that's really nasty. If your 306 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: car falls into that, you're inside of it. Yeah. No, 307 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I saw a car flipped over, upside down, deep into 308 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: a hole. Oh well, not not in person, but on television. 309 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: On television, I did see. Oh. I did drive over 310 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: two of the largest potholes I've ever driven over, and 311 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I fortunately both times I spied the pothole before I 312 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: rolled over it. But it was deep. If I had 313 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: hit at full speed, that would have hurt. Now. I mean, 314 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: I think an actual would have float off. I mean, 315 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: these are the biggest potholes that I can remember in 316 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: California since I moved here. This much rain and everything 317 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: else that's fallen down, it's kind of a roads, the 318 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: already horrendous roads that we have a right when we 319 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: come back, we have a special guest coming on the 320 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. Probably many of you are aware. 321 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever been down in the San Diego area 322 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: of Coronado Island, which I see as a population of 323 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: about twenty thousand. The mayor is coming on. Why is 324 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: he coming on. Well, he wants to say, we have 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: but one homeless person, and that's because our policy is 326 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: we do not tolerate encampments. This is the type of 327 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: approach that John and Ken say you need to make 328 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: in order to solve the problem. You got to start 329 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: making the homeless responsible for themselves in any manner so 330 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: they eventually get their life together or they move on 331 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: to somewhere else. But if they keep getting moved on, 332 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: you'd think eventually they try to get their act together. 333 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Our guests coming up after the news here at one 334 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: thirty is Richard Bailey, John and Ken caf I AM 335 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: six forty Live Everywhere the guy heard radio apps. You're 336 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI AM 337 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: sixty Yeah, and of course day with KFI News for 338 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: the latest of what's going on with the poor people 339 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: in the mountain communities of San Bernardino County as they 340 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: continue to try to dig them out. But at least 341 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: now some help is coming with a National Guard and 342 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: much more equippit to do that. Now, we turn our 343 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: attention back to California's top problem, the homeless California. California 344 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: has this huge homeless issue We've got thirty percent of 345 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: the homeless in the country, and we're only twelve percent 346 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: of the population. But there are many cities in southern 347 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: California that have very few or no homeless because they 348 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: simply don't put up with it. We were out with 349 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: friends a couple of weeks ago who live in Glendale, 350 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: and they said, now, we don't have anything in Glendale. 351 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: I drive through Beverly Hills all the time. They have 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: almost nothing in Beverly Hills, right, But they don't publicize 353 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: that they're like that. They kind of do it very quietly. 354 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: I notice same thing with Beverly Hills. A lot of 355 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: other communities. They figure out a way to move the 356 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: homeless along, but they don't really want to hold press 357 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: conferences and shout from the rooftops. But they don't. Now 358 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: they'll be pummeled by the liberal press. Right. Yeah, Well, 359 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: the thing is everybody should know it can be done. 360 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: Malibu does it. West Hollywood does a real good job 361 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: with it. Culver City does it. Is specifically, the policies 362 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: you have in your city determines the amount of homeless, 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: nothing else, just your city. And sometimes a council person 364 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: in your city might have a much cleaner district than 365 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: other council people who embrace all this nonsense. So we're 366 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk now about Coronado. Coronado is the resort city 367 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: on a peninsula in San Diego Bay. If you've ever 368 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: been down there, it's a delightful place to and of 369 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: course the Hotel del Coronado very famous, draws people from 370 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: all over. Population about twenty thousand, and the headline here 371 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: is that they have the lowest homeless rate in the 372 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: state Bee it is a smaller city. We're going to 373 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: talk now to the mayor, Richard Bailey, about to their 374 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: approach in Coronado to the vagrants. Richard, how are you hey? 375 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Good that for Neon guys, I'm doing great, Thanks so 376 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: much for having me on. So what's the number right now? 377 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: I saw on our article it was either zero or one. 378 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Did you did you get rid of the guy? Or 379 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: it was as of the last official count one. But 380 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: since that count took place, we were able to find 381 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: that individual help and that person is no longer homeless. 382 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: So as of this moment, there are no official counts 383 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: showing us have any more than zero homeless. You want 384 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: to have a big electronic scoreboard as you go over 385 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: the bridge, it entered. Well, let me let me ask 386 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: you this. Then going back a bit, was there a problem? 387 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Was there ten twenty thirty homeless? What was your highest number? 388 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: Did you guys ever counted? So the homeless, the homeless 389 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: population is actually tough to count on any given time 390 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: because it's a fluid situation. But we had several dozen 391 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: over the course of the last few years. But we're very, 392 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: very proactive in our approach to addressing the homeless issue. 393 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: We try to take the approach that makes same yes 394 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: to getting help and off of the street really the 395 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: only option available. And what that looks like in practice 396 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: is we have contracted with a homeless service provider and 397 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: so anyone that enters Cornado that appears to be down 398 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: on their luck or needing shelter space, we will make 399 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: contact with them almost immediately and we will let them know, hey, 400 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: we have shelter space available for you. We can help 401 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: give you the resources you need to get back on 402 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: your feet if you're facing some hard times. However, we 403 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: do not allow people to simply set up tents on 404 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the sidewalk and block the public right away. We don't 405 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: tolerate people urinating or deficating a public or being intoxicated 406 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: in the public, And so we go about disinforcing our 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: basic code violations would likely would for anyone regardless of 408 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: their housing status. And with that result is that usually 409 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: people either accepts help or they just move along. All right. 410 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: So if you get a call that some guy's pitched 411 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: a tent in one of your parks, and you go 412 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: there and he's living in the tent, sleeping bag, bicycle, 413 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, all the all the accruiter months, that almost 414 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: settle with yes, what what what do you do if 415 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: he says, no, I'm fine here, leave me alone. So 416 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: usually when what tends to happen is when homeless individuals 417 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: tend not to like to be bothered, right, They want 418 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: to go about their lifestyle without being bothered, which is 419 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: why they tend to go move to cities they have 420 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: that enable this type of behavior and kind of turn 421 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: turn to buy an eye to it. So usually upon 422 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: just first contact of riding them a citation or letting 423 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: them know that, hey, you're not allowed to stay here, 424 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: usually they either accept help or they move about to 425 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: another location. In the event someone is you know, resisting 426 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: our orders to leave, we can cite them multiple times 427 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: and eventually we can get a restraint in order against 428 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: them from a judge. But once again, it really comes 429 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: down and taking a very proactive approach that starts with 430 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: having shelter space available so that you can go about 431 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: enforcing these types of code violations. So, I mean, because 432 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: you've got a situation there right across the bridge, you 433 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: have San Diego, which has some real downtown homeless problems. 434 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're finding people that kind of make their 435 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: way into your city from there. What you tend to 436 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: find is that there's a direct correlation between transit lines 437 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: and we're the homeless population spreads and so we are 438 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: just a couple bus stops away from the epicenter of 439 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: the homeless situation here in San Diego County. And so yeah, 440 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: we do notice that individuals from downtown Thanego will come 441 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: through Cornado. We suspect they're coming by bus, and that 442 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: just means that we have to continue to be proactive 443 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: and work gets out pretty quickly within the homeless community, 444 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: of which areas in town government officials of what other 445 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: of any city is allowing you to stay there? Which 446 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: cities kind of give you, um, you know, don't tolerate 447 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: blocks in the public broadway or all these other basic 448 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: code violations. So work gets out pretty fast. Have you 449 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: get any blowback from the activists or any other local 450 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: protesters that you're taking too tough an approach on this? 451 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: You know what, I had not yet knock on wood. 452 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: I personally think this is the right thing to do. 453 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: You know, we have we have a responsibility to make 454 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: sure that the people that genuinely want help have the 455 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: option to get that help. But we also have a 456 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: responsibility to our general public fit that want clean public 457 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: spaces that they can so they can walk down the 458 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: sidewalk to school or the grocery store, that they can 459 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: enjoy parts without having to worry about stepping on a needle, 460 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: or walk outside and not have to worry about stepping 461 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: on human waste. You know, we have a responsibility to 462 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: them as well, and so striking the right balance is 463 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here, and the cities you 464 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier are trying to do that as well. What 465 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: do you think has gone wrong with all these other 466 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: city officials? I mean you must know some of the 467 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: ones in San Diego, Well, why have they all all 468 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: the filth and the feces, and the needles, and the 469 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: aberrant behavior, you know, the schizophreni of the drug addiction. 470 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Why have they allowed that to proliferate when I'm sure 471 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: they're personally disgusted by it. They don't want that coming 472 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: in on their block, in their house. Why why do 473 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: you think they tolerate all this to such a large extent? 474 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: I wish I knew the answer to that. Someone recently 475 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: shared with me. Gosh, you know, here we are in 476 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: California where they've they've taken away plastic straws and now 477 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: they're handing out plastic needles, And it's just a very 478 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: different mindset here in California. And what's happening here in 479 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: our states throughout our region largely, it's not normal. And 480 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it's really important for listeners to understand this 481 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: that from two twelves through two and twenty two, over 482 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: the past ten years, the number of homeless population throughout 483 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: the entire country actually fell by forty thousand. So there 484 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: are forty thousand fewer people homeless today in the United 485 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: States and there were ten years ago. However, here in California, 486 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: our homeless population has increased by forty percent. Over that 487 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: same time period. So that begs the question, what policies 488 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: is California implementing that not only enables the people to 489 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: continue living a personally destructive lifestyle without consequences for them, 490 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: but to your consequences for their surrounding community and also 491 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: attracting more homeless individuals. What policies are these? And I 492 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: think it really comes down to the housing first without 493 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: any preconditions, right. So Los Angeles County is infamous for this. 494 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: They're spending upwards of eight hundred thousand dollars per housing 495 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: unit based on the philosophy that, well, we have to 496 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: get them all house first before we can expect them 497 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: to make any changes to their lifestyle. Yeah, that's an 498 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: absurd theory. Why do politicians embrace that instead of saying 499 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: the obvious? It's like, well, that's never going to work. 500 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: There's not enough money on the planet to finance all 501 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: those homes, so we can't do that this run I 502 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: don't get. There's always activist groups with crazy ideas. It's 503 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: going to be like that forever. But why don't the 504 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: people with the responsibility to say no, say no and 505 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: enforce the law. I wish I had answer for that. 506 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: All I can say is, as you mentioned earlier, your 507 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: local representation matters a lot. So you have to have 508 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: people to have the backbone that are willing to say, hey, look, 509 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: this is a tough problem. I hate to see someone 510 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: down on their luck or addicted to jobs or mentally 511 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: ill like on a human level, I have tremendous compassion 512 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: for them. We're going to offer them help. But refusal 513 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: to accept help doesn't give you the right to crap 514 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. I hope that's something we can all 515 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: agree on. A question at this point in time, this 516 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: is maya Richard Bailey of Coronado. Like today you said, 517 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe you have one or zero homeless people are there? 518 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: Do you have people right now they're in some sort 519 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: of shelter and did you get anybody permitted housing there? 520 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: How does this work the next part of it? Yeah, 521 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: So usually what we have we have a contract for 522 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: a third party homeless provider that has temporary shelter space, 523 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: and that temporary shelter space also includes resources that if 524 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: they needed to get plugged into, say additional job trainings 525 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: or they were having mental health issues, they have navigators 526 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: that can help plug them into resources. There and that's 527 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: kind of where our role as a local municipality ends. 528 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: And then you have the county and state. They're supposed 529 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: to step up and serve in their capacities. And that's 530 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: one issue that I've I've kind of noticed is that 531 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: you have a lot of local governments that refuse to 532 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: stay in their lane as a local government official on 533 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: some issues, and then they refuse to accomplish their core 534 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: responsibility on other issues such as homeless. So, you know, 535 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: we have a responsibility here in cornew to enforce the 536 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: basic rule of law and make sure the people that 537 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: need help have access to it, and then it's on 538 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the shoulders of other agencies from there. So we're trying 539 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: to do our best to focus on what our core 540 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: responsibilities are and execute those and we're hoping others will 541 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: follow assume. All right, thank you very much for coming 542 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: on board. Yeah, hey, I appreciate that. Thank you guys 543 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: for the coverage. Okay, he ought to have like some 544 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: sort of a conference to bring together all these stokey 545 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: political leaders around the state then to explain exactly how 546 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: he does it in Coronado. What I was wondering is 547 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: was there a conference where everybody like took an oath 548 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: and pledged to destroy the streets of Los Angeles and 549 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: in the streets of San Francisco and all these other approaches, 550 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: which is housing first, and when there's no housing, just 551 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: let everybody lie there. Yeah, just let everybody lie there 552 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: and abuse themselves and kill themselves. I mean, it's two 553 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: thousand a year dying in Los Angeles. Two thousand people 554 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: a year dying on our streets. Let me come back. 555 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: We'll take a quick visit to opposite land from Coronado 556 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: in terms of dealing with homeless people with a visit 557 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: to San Francisco and Oregon. John and Ken caf I 558 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: AM six forty live everywhere the I heard radio app. 559 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI sixty. Yeah, 560 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, and check out that podcast. We just talked 561 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: to the mayor of Coronado. We got a lot of 562 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: listeners who forwarded that story from Fox News to us 563 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: to get this guy in the show. Well we did. 564 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: If you've missed its this ran you can catch the 565 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: podcast what it's posted right after four o'clock. Zero homeless 566 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: in Coronado, zero homeless or one, depending on whether or 567 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: not they've bought up to this guy yet or one. 568 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: By the end of the day, the guy will be 569 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: gone because you're not allowed to camp in a public space. 570 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: That it's real simple. Now in the opposite universe, the 571 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: idea that housing comes first, and what they did during 572 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic, they thought this was a great idea. Let's 573 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: put the vagrants in the empty hotel rooms because people 574 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: aren't traveling anymore for reasons that they got locked down. 575 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: So they did this for the better part of a 576 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: year or two, and now the bill is coming due. 577 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: The city of San Francisco may have to pay twenty 578 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: six million dollars to hotels because of the damage that 579 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the homeless did during the pandemic and the revenue they 580 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: lost because probably they got the rooms at a very 581 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: discounted rate. They took on homeless people. They has thirty 582 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: seven vagrants high risk they call them high risk residents 583 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: in twenty five hotels. So what do you think happened? 584 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: They're whacked out on drugs, they're crazy, and they wrecked 585 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the rooms. One hotel called Hotel Union Square, 586 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: filed to claim almost six million dollars in damages, hundreds 587 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: of thousands law and lost rent from taking on the 588 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: homeless and get this the city their counter offer, all right, 589 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: Hotel Union Square says we need five point six million, 590 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: and the city offered four hundred thousand for the damage 591 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: and two hundred and eighty grand for lost rent. They 592 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: gave up eventually, and they're going to pay five point 593 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: three million. The Tilden hotels they get six and a 594 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: half to get this. The city comes up with this 595 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: wacko idea to house homeless in nice hotels. The hotels say, sure, 596 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: if you pay us. And then at the end of 597 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: it they say, hey, look at all the damage that 598 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: you're vague it's dead. What you want money? No, Well, 599 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: that's disgusting. What a disgusting group of politicians in San Francisco. Again, 600 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: no respect for a private property, no respect for anyone 601 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: or any company that owns something. And before we leave 602 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco, there's also this report we've noticed and talked 603 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: about how of all the major cities in the US, 604 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people left San Francisco during the lockdown 605 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: for reasons that they could work anywhere in the world 606 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: if they wanted to. Also because the rents are ridiculously high, 607 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: and let's not forget the vagrants with their crime and 608 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: their drugs. A hundred and fifty thousand fewer office workers 609 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: are in San Francisco and downtown on any given day. Now, 610 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: that's an incredibly high number, no wonder. There's so many 611 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: buildings for rent that have no tenants anymore. There's one 612 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand bad you want that does other 613 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: businesses that rely on them for lunch time, and well, 614 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: they're shopping trends. Millions of meals that aren't served in 615 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: restaurants exactly that those business lunches, right, Yeah, that that 616 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: that's millions of sales that aren't made in all the 617 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: retail shops. I trying to figure out the number because 618 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: I've always heard these reports that a lot of people 619 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: just gave up working there or living there. About one 620 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand less office workers. And I think 621 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: the mayor said a couple of weeks ago that the 622 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: London breach, he said, it's never going to be what 623 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: it was referring to downtown San Francisco getting because it's not. 624 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: You have to reimagine it. It's not just remote work, 625 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: that's what they were always going to hide behind. It's 626 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: that people were so disgusted and upset with paying such 627 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: high rants and going through such difficult commutes, only to 628 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: be met with with half naked people screaming at them, 629 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: dropping feces on the sidewalk, needles hanging out of their arms, 630 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of the cars being broken into, just all 631 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: kinds of danger. That's what they don't miss. Now. The 632 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: other place we're going to visit here when it comes 633 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: to the vagrant update is Oregon, which is another horrendous 634 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: place that completely deals with the homeless and exactly the 635 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: opposite ways as they should. Is pointed out with our 636 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: conversation with the mayor of Cornado, there is a bill 637 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: in the Oregon legislature that would pay every vagrant a 638 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month, no questions asked. Do what you 639 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: want with it? Yeah, that's going to solve the problem, 640 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: isn't it. They're gonna go right out there and work 641 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: on and getting a nice place to rent and buying 642 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: a nice set of clothes so they can get back 643 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: into its Really, it's really gonna work that way. It's 644 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: going to drive up the price of street drugs. Oh, 645 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: you're right, they have more disposable income, right, If you're 646 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: a dealer and every single vagrant who buys your drugs 647 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: now has an extra thousand dollars a month, I'm raising 648 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: prices right night. I mean, they're they're, they're they're printing 649 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: money for these street people. Payments may be used for rent, 650 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: emergency services, emergency expenses, food, childcare, other goods and services 651 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: of the participants. Choosing anything goes in other words, exactly right. 652 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: They didn't want to put any strings on it because 653 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: they believe that the vagrants won't do anything good with 654 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: the money, or they won't take the money. What hasn't 655 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: gotten enough publicity is that Oregon decriminalized all kinds of drugs. 656 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: They criminalize street drugs last year, and now the state 657 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: Health Authority has ruled that that legislation has failed, seven 658 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: months after it went into effect. You have more people 659 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: than ever now zombified and stoned and dysfunctional. That's what 660 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: effectively Prop forty seven did. Hear by reducing them from 661 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: feldonie to misdemeanors, it took away, you know, the thing 662 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: we could hold over them to send them into treatment 663 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: for a felony. Right, So they decided that its street 664 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: drugs no longer crime, and here's a thousand dollars so 665 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: you can buy more. Why would you do any of this. 666 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: You're killing those people, and you're making the place uninhabitable 667 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: for uninhabitable for normal people who are paying the taxes. 668 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: But then let's go back to why do people in Oregon, 669 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: people in Portland vote for these public officials? What's wrong 670 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: with you? And then you bitch and complain about the conditions. 671 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I read a Paul where seventy five percent of the 672 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: people in the Portland metropolitan area will not go downtown 673 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: at night. I don't know why they don't ounk the government. 674 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw something happen in Chicago this week. 675 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: We saw something happen in Seattle last year. With some changes, 676 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: you would think that slowly, but surely these places, these 677 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: voters would get wise and say you got to get 678 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: rid of the people making the decisions. And Seattle, Seattle 679 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: has been heavily damaged, Portland heavily damaged. The business district 680 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: has been hollowed out in San Francisco. What else do 681 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: you need? All Right, we got more coming up. Johnny 682 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: ken caf I am six forty. 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