Speaker 1: La laugh. If you watch Coffee Time to Baby, you
Speaker 1: know the name Flame, my role also known as my
Speaker 1: role Flame. Come in with last and come in with
Speaker 1: JN love launds. Baby, you better catch it when you
Speaker 1: can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to polytics shouting now
Speaker 1: comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You know
Speaker 1: she raped shot towns on speaking to the grown. And
Speaker 1: second we're gonna last cut of the kicking and at
Speaker 1: the end we leave it with just a lift dispirit.
Speaker 1: You think you want to revisit, so your first like
Speaker 1: a listen Jill. Folks like you slip all folks that
Speaker 1: we dig it hain't no kids do what you doin
Speaker 1: no kiss do what you do. Can't no kids do
Speaker 1: what I do. No good morning, good morning, good afternoon,
Speaker 1: good evening. Got something good somewhere good somebody because good Flame,
Speaker 1: My road is here with Lauren the Diva. Nick Smith
Speaker 1: will be joining us shortly. Welcome to laugh and learned.
Speaker 1: We know we're a little bit late. Lauren had changed
Speaker 1: the password. No, no, I didn't, Y'll Flame changed the
Speaker 1: password and could remember it. She said it was one
Speaker 1: to night. She was with God. I was with God.
Speaker 1: He was sitting right over down the corner and talk
Speaker 1: to the mother to nig he went and exactly, So
Speaker 1: we got to start the show because I just found
Speaker 1: some new information out. What happened this morning is that good,
Speaker 1: good afternoon. Every one. Hello, I don't let you talking
Speaker 1: about welcome ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. We want to
Speaker 1: thank wonderful cameraman Kendall and our fabulous producer Triple. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us. We have a very special
Speaker 1: guest coming up soon. So this morning, what happened was
Speaker 1: I went to the grocery store because I made chili
Speaker 1: and I had to go get the chili fixes. And
Speaker 1: there was a lady who was quite disturbed in the
Speaker 1: grocery store. That's why I'm gonna call her disturbed in
Speaker 1: the grocery store this one. And she physically attacked me.
Speaker 1: We were standing in line, black woman and she was
Speaker 1: black ya. She was nap mind you, she was nampolar
Speaker 1: crazy when I tell you, if the cats was in
Speaker 1: the ali running through her brains. And so she didn't
Speaker 1: have the money to pay for her stuff, and so
Speaker 1: she was like, well, let the manager pay for when
Speaker 1: I'm a customer, let him pay for and the cash.
Speaker 1: She was like, what, we don't do that, and so
Speaker 1: I snickered like and she turned around and read me, honey,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you laughing at? What are you?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you are when I tell you.
Speaker 1: I read that woman from upside down to backwards and sideways.
Speaker 1: And she got up in my face and she got
Speaker 1: in my personal space and she started going on her
Speaker 1: and she started going in her bag and she was
Speaker 1: gonna do something. I wasn't afraid of what was in
Speaker 1: her bag, but the the the offensive smell that was
Speaker 1: coming out of her mouth made me push that woman.
Speaker 1: I pushed that woman down on the ground. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the police probably looking for me. So if I go
Speaker 1: to jail for assault, I wasn't assaulted. I was attacked
Speaker 1: by her breath, she said. I told her. She said,
Speaker 1: I'm not ugly, I'm beautiful. I said, girl, don't nobody
Speaker 1: think you beautiful? And you ugly and you're crazy? And
Speaker 1: she said, you assaulted me. I said, your breath took
Speaker 1: three years off my life, bitch, and baby, the police
Speaker 1: having everything, but you know I'm good and clean. Something
Speaker 1: welcome to that's how we do. Listen, coming up September
Speaker 1: six in Chicago, the greatest white party ever had. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have the best time. We're taken it back o
Speaker 1: school Chicago like we used to do it. The tickets
Speaker 1: sales will be up tomorrow on event Bright Lawren just
Speaker 1: diet very hooked everything up. The flyer will be ready tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's first comes first, sir, thirty dollars a piece. That
Speaker 1: place only holds three hundred fifty dollars. So if you
Speaker 1: don't get your ticket, please on starte coming time flame.
Speaker 1: I've been knowing you since. Did you know that those
Speaker 1: tinkers was gonna sale yesterday? People? Yeah, he said three
Speaker 1: fifty dollars tickets out thirty dollars each, but it's three hundred.
Speaker 1: It holds three hundred and fifty. Now we might be
Speaker 1: able to stretch it a little bit, but if y'all
Speaker 1: settle it out, they already made the offer of two shows. Hint, hints. Okay,
Speaker 1: now the next day, Hi, Lauren, how was your week?
Speaker 1: Um week? It's actually been two weeks since we did
Speaker 1: the show. Did you realize that we had a little
Speaker 1: time off? But my week has been good, but you know,
Speaker 1: work has been crazy, and where's the rest of the makeup,
Speaker 1: make up. This is my ruby boom um. No, but
Speaker 1: this week is gonna be crazy. Actually, as soon as
Speaker 1: we finished the show, I'm going to the airport. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those weeks. Are you going
Speaker 1: the whole week? Work work, work, work, work work the
Speaker 1: roles Virginia next Saday, come to a Soldia show for
Speaker 1: with you at Poor Girls with Jennifer Warner. Let's bring
Speaker 1: NICKI in. Um. Nick is on vacation for two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh and I just got an email for you too.
Speaker 1: You might be head to Memphis, Tennessee if the check
Speaker 1: looks right. Yeah, I saw that. I sent them straight
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, so you might be going to Memphis,
Speaker 1: Tennessee to if the check looks right. Hello, we shall
Speaker 1: see Hello Nick Smith? Hello, Hello, can you see me? Okay,
Speaker 1: we can see you? Just fine? Okay, good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm not chopping it off again? There, I'm doing all right.
Speaker 1: So Lauren, you're headed out of town again? Uh? Once again? Yes,
Speaker 1: I am on the road again. You're excited about it
Speaker 1: or you're like Nick, I'm just over you know, I
Speaker 1: used to travel like seven pre print pre pandemic is
Speaker 1: a part of my job, and like I enjoyed it
Speaker 1: and and I started to hate it. So sitting still
Speaker 1: for a year was great. But now getting back into it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, I didn't really miss this that much
Speaker 1: because you know, I used to come home for twenty
Speaker 1: four hours just to sleep in my bed. I was
Speaker 1: just telling Trouble this in Kendall, like I wanted my
Speaker 1: bed that badly because I was gone so much. So,
Speaker 1: the fact that things are starting to turn back into that,
Speaker 1: I'm not very excited about it. But I gotta keep
Speaker 1: my status on Delta. Who's in there? Who's in the
Speaker 1: be with you? Though? It's the question um des me
Speaker 1: minding my business anyway. But I'm going to New Orleans
Speaker 1: tonight and then I'll be there till Thursday, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to Atlanta and then I'll be able to
Speaker 1: come back home. So I'll be gone for about a week.
Speaker 1: Where are you, Mrs Smith? Because you're not home? Where
Speaker 1: are you? Right? You was traveling to where'd you go? Uh? First,
Speaker 1: I'm not on vacation plane. You know. You keep saying
Speaker 1: that I work. Ever I know where you don't work.
Speaker 1: See how the internet stops you from telling that line.
Speaker 1: You see how God he is. You see how God
Speaker 1: interrupted that line. You got to repeat, iculous repeat that
Speaker 1: you hadn't win, you hadn't win. Yes, i am in Provincetown, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: So I'm still here in Peatown and I am working
Speaker 1: from here, so I've not taken any time off, but
Speaker 1: I am. I am working. I'm just working from here.
Speaker 1: So that's it. It's super hot right now in Arkansas. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, we've had the ability to work
Speaker 1: remotely and uh we use green screen now, which also
Speaker 1: helps for this show. So it's all like really kind
Speaker 1: of working together. Arkansas is on fire for a couple
Speaker 1: of reasons. Arkansas and numbers for the pandemic is really
Speaker 1: really high right now, you know, flame Unlike unlike California.
Speaker 1: You know, we've really never had a mask mandate. Um not.
Speaker 1: You know we people were anti the vaccine, people were
Speaker 1: anti It's real. There's a lot happening there, and we
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have leadership that pushed people or encourage them
Speaker 1: to get more information. So we're now feeling the brunt
Speaker 1: of it. So, yes, it's very true. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: in truth, so numbers are going up everywhere, like California.
Speaker 1: I think we just had two thousand new cases yesterday.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's getting starting to get bad everywhere
Speaker 1: with the different of I think we have two new
Speaker 1: variants now. So and I saw fightsers like ope, you
Speaker 1: gotta get a third dose, and I'm like, oh glad,
Speaker 1: I was got vaccinate with Maderna. We started a little
Speaker 1: late today, but I got a special guests and time
Speaker 1: is money, and I hate to waste people's time because
Speaker 1: I hate people to waste mine. So before I bring
Speaker 1: my very special guest song whose name is Keisha Grandy.
Speaker 1: This is Keisha Grandy. Here, hold on, let me show you.
Speaker 1: Keisha Grandy is a recording artist and she's also an actress.
Speaker 1: An actress. She's saying with Kurk Franklin and the Family.
Speaker 1: She was in Tyler Perry's play I Can Do Bad
Speaker 1: All by Myself. She has this new music out, this
Speaker 1: new CD called it Pitome. She is a religious woman
Speaker 1: who loves us in Lord. She's had a new marriage
Speaker 1: and she saved my life. Um, maybe about ago, do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about that more? You just want
Speaker 1: to move on? When we bring her on, we will
Speaker 1: talk about it. More with her. Nick finished what you
Speaker 1: were saying though, because you you were all staticky. But
Speaker 1: we can see you now. Oh sounds good. Sorry about that, ladies. Um,
Speaker 1: it looks like there's also an issue now, Lauren with
Speaker 1: the Johnson and Johnson beckseye that it could have something
Speaker 1: to do with the nerve agent. So it looks like
Speaker 1: this is still all over the place, and it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: because again this helps to discourage some people who are
Speaker 1: already fearful about the information. Are you talking to me? No,
Speaker 1: you know that. You said, Hey, I don't think it
Speaker 1: helps anybody playing when with the information is either inconsistent
Speaker 1: or you know, um, these new revelations keep you know,
Speaker 1: causing doubts. So yeah, definitely, it's the struggle that has
Speaker 1: always been my issue. It's not that I do not
Speaker 1: trust the science. I don't trust the scientists behind it.
Speaker 1: Right now, well I said, I'm not taking anymore shots.
Speaker 1: I did. I did my two with Maderna. I'm good
Speaker 1: And whatever protection I got is just what I got,
Speaker 1: because I'm not going through protected. Every time you come here.
Speaker 1: You see that can over that that blue can, That
Speaker 1: blue can says light song and it's the old lights
Speaker 1: off because when you have you seen the news lights
Speaker 1: of coronavirus, the new the new ones don't oh they don't. Oh,
Speaker 1: they took it off, so you had to get your
Speaker 1: lights out of pre pandemic or doing the early part
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. The new cands of lights out don't
Speaker 1: say kills coronavirus. I got the old ones. Um, So
Speaker 1: let me ask you, do we wanna, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of start with some of the topics we talked about,
Speaker 1: or do you want to talk with Keisha right now?
Speaker 1: I want to bring Keisha in right now because she's
Speaker 1: been waiting and I'm excited to bring her home. Niggas,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you back in for these topics. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna do our hot topics with us. Sounds good?
Speaker 1: So you in a minute. Yeah, So Keisha granted you guys.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to get her music. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's on Spotify, iTunes. I just got my CD in
Speaker 1: the mail, like Keisha, like right now for really mail
Speaker 1: man just right and it just grow that name on
Speaker 1: that package stuff. She's funny. We might need to send
Speaker 1: her a message to let her know we're trying to
Speaker 1: get her. Um. But I really am excited for you
Speaker 1: to kind of tell your story and connection to Keisha
Speaker 1: and all that she really did for you. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting to how music can really get you through, you know,
Speaker 1: a tough time, you know, And we've talked about that
Speaker 1: with some of our other guests, you know, like Common
Speaker 1: and what music has meant to him, you know, during
Speaker 1: the time of a pandemic. So I think it's really
Speaker 1: important to touch on how music can actually really save
Speaker 1: people's lives. Little did we know, but it's very influential.
Speaker 1: Definitely say, man, he's your good God, did you save
Speaker 1: my life? I'm gonna tell you all the story with
Speaker 1: no tears in my ey Come on, woman had to
Speaker 1: bust you to the face. Well you already did that
Speaker 1: this morning, remember so I would you right? Not you?
Speaker 1: I love my LORI hokey m hm oh, I think
Speaker 1: I got her. Okay, yep, miss Keisha, we are coming
Speaker 1: for you right now. I just sent you a request.
Speaker 1: We see you in the comments. Hello, lady, Keith. Lady.
Speaker 1: So y'all have to know that physically, I've never met
Speaker 1: Keisha Grandy. Oh really no, I've never met just like
Speaker 1: I had never met Ta Campbell. Physically, I know, comment
Speaker 1: ask because then they gave me a birthday party from
Speaker 1: my birthday last year and so, and speaking of which,
Speaker 1: what's this Wednesday? Huh? What's this Wednesday? This Wednesday is
Speaker 1: the birth of a queen with a king's penis? No
Speaker 1: on the serious, No, this Wednesday is your birthday baby
Speaker 1: turning nine? Did y'all know she was only three years
Speaker 1: older than me? Who knew? Hi? Keisha, Hello, beautiful flame.
Speaker 1: That's y'all wait in and say hello to Keisha. Granny. So, Keisha,
Speaker 1: I was on live this morning to be getting ready
Speaker 1: for the show, because you don't get ready to fab
Speaker 1: minutes before the show, right, I was playing Lord. I'm sorry. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about the significance of
Speaker 1: what that song means to me right now. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that. But how are you, my darling?
Speaker 1: I am awesome? Are you? I'm great? Look what I
Speaker 1: got in the mail today? But that name on that envelope,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. She sent it in? She sent
Speaker 1: it in Marcus my room, Like, who is this help
Speaker 1: of sending mere fil people live here? Keisha? Tell us
Speaker 1: something good? I got a new project that called and
Speaker 1: we have it right here, and I listened to it
Speaker 1: on I listened to it on the on YouTube the
Speaker 1: other day. But now I have the CD, I can
Speaker 1: listen to the whole thing because you know, one of
Speaker 1: my momos is to listen to the B side because
Speaker 1: a lot of times people missed great music because they
Speaker 1: only listened to what's popular and not the entire CD.
Speaker 1: So I'm exciting because you are amazing woman. So you
Speaker 1: and your newly you're still like a newly way because
Speaker 1: it's only like two years, right, flame, Where did you
Speaker 1: get that from me? I thought you got married two
Speaker 1: years ago. No, you're not me, Mary, Well, don't feel
Speaker 1: bad me either. Well, Kisha, we do want to give
Speaker 1: you a proper introduction. You are a singer, you are
Speaker 1: an actress, You are a songwriter. You have quite the resume.
Speaker 1: You know, you're best known for your appearances and Sideline
Speaker 1: Confessions and also Tyler Perry's I Can do Bad all
Speaker 1: by myself. You've worked with Kirk Franklin. You know you've
Speaker 1: done You've created some amazing pieces of work. So I
Speaker 1: think I want to start off by asking you know,
Speaker 1: whats so far that you've done has been your most
Speaker 1: impactful project or this meant the most to you so far? UM,
Speaker 1: My most impactful has been doing the stage played with
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry. I know I can do bad all by myself. Um,
Speaker 1: if you're a church head, people will definitely say with
Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin. But all of it has been a blessing
Speaker 1: to me. I've worked with two of the most influential
Speaker 1: people in their areas and I not too many people
Speaker 1: can say that, And for that, I am very very
Speaker 1: grateful for the opportunities that have been presented to me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so the so the play. Let me let me
Speaker 1: just take you out here. Let me tell y'all about
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. I was going through a horrible breakup
Speaker 1: with my baby mom, my daughter's mom, because I had
Speaker 1: two daby mamas, both names, y'all know the story anyway,
Speaker 1: the second one was the one I was hit over
Speaker 1: here was crazy in love with, and she left and
Speaker 1: left me with a three year old, a three month old,
Speaker 1: and three and a half year old. And I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be here. I was hurt, I was broken,
Speaker 1: I was displaced, I was disgruntled, I was angry, I
Speaker 1: was rebellious. Every emotion you could possibly think of I experienced,
Speaker 1: and my girlfriend Coco Bancardia, who was my personal makeup artist,
Speaker 1: I was at her house in Vegas and I was
Speaker 1: like a fell there, as strong as y'all see me now,
Speaker 1: like a tank. I'll say what I want to say.
Speaker 1: I was. I was gone, every piece of me was.
Speaker 1: And I heard you sing Lord, I'm sorry in the play.
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't at the play. I just watched it
Speaker 1: on YouTube. And when I tell you, Coco held me
Speaker 1: in her bosom the entire night because I wanted to
Speaker 1: kill myself. I didn't want that pain anymore. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be here to me, I didn't care about
Speaker 1: my children at that point. I just didn't want I
Speaker 1: wanted to pain to stop because I had put this
Speaker 1: woman before God in my life. And then the play.
Speaker 1: In the song Lord I'm Sorry that you can get
Speaker 1: on YouTube or I tune, she was singing it. She
Speaker 1: in the place she put a man before God. You
Speaker 1: put a man before God. God is a jealous god.
Speaker 1: He takes away. He took her away, and the play,
Speaker 1: he took your husband. When you sing that song, Kesha,
Speaker 1: I cried from the trenches of my soul to let
Speaker 1: an outcry that I never heard come from me. I
Speaker 1: never thought that was that song save my life because
Speaker 1: I had to apologize as for putting God on the
Speaker 1: back burner for somebody human that didn't care about me
Speaker 1: and just did not believe in me. You saved my life,
Speaker 1: Kepsha brain and I inbox Keisha and told her you
Speaker 1: walked me through a fire and covered me in a storm,
Speaker 1: And sister, I adore you. I met your face and Facebook,
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you a big virtual hood. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: spread your lives out first. I'm giving you a big
Speaker 1: virtual hood because I wouldn't be sitting here and I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what you did for me. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what it had done for somebody else, but you
Speaker 1: took me out of a hole that I didn't never
Speaker 1: even see the top of. I didn't see the top
Speaker 1: of her. I was in the darkness, lost the word.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you when you sang that song, Keisha,
Speaker 1: because I've seen at that time and imagine y'all did
Speaker 1: that play over and over and over. But this one
Speaker 1: particular time when they recorded it, which is on YouTube,
Speaker 1: what were you going through? Because you sang that song
Speaker 1: with emotion, with feeling. This was not just I'm singing
Speaker 1: this gospel song because I let the Lord something was
Speaker 1: on you too, because it came through the damn Internet
Speaker 1: and grabbed me. Let me tell you, After that curtain
Speaker 1: came down, I stayed there on my face before God
Speaker 1: because so much was going on in my life at
Speaker 1: that time. And yeah, what you felt was what I
Speaker 1: was going through as well. I stayed on my face
Speaker 1: for I know. Intermission was fifteen minutes and I stayed
Speaker 1: on my face for about ten minutes. Somebody had to
Speaker 1: come get me because the song, the song is there,
Speaker 1: the songs that because you know Tyler wrights most of
Speaker 1: his everything and he wrote the lyrics to that song.
Speaker 1: So um, I was going through a dark period of
Speaker 1: my life at that time as well. I didn't know
Speaker 1: the direction that I was gonna go. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen with my life. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: hit me like it hits you. Definitely. I m all
Speaker 1: I remember and that now I want her to go
Speaker 1: up and want that fan off. I kept hearing turn
Speaker 1: the fan off, triple please. I kept hearing all I
Speaker 1: can hear in the play is that Tyler By Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I get it all the times, I ain't get
Speaker 1: the pout. I do have to say though, Um, for me,
Speaker 1: I always watched Tyler Perry's plays first before I watched
Speaker 1: the movie because I think that the plays, while his
Speaker 1: movies are good, don't get me wrong, I think the
Speaker 1: plays are so much more impactful and they really tell
Speaker 1: this like authentic story in this space you know, where
Speaker 1: there's healing, you learn something, it's just it's it's so
Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful, you know, kind of space to
Speaker 1: be in. Like I said, not that the movies aren't great,
Speaker 1: but the plays just have a different impact and you know,
Speaker 1: with your audience because you're really interacting with them and
Speaker 1: you get direct emotion and all of that. So I
Speaker 1: want to commend you for your acting skills, your singing
Speaker 1: skills and all that you're doing. And congratulations on the
Speaker 1: new album as well. Yeah, Keha, I'm looking at the album.
Speaker 1: I see that you collaborated with Toureal Carter. I know,
Speaker 1: too real Card. He's a nice he's a handsome man too.
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. Yes, Terrell and I we toured
Speaker 1: together back in nineties five. Um, it was our Tour
Speaker 1: of life tour. He was singing with Fred Hammond at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was with Kirk. So we became
Speaker 1: really close on that tour and he's been my friend
Speaker 1: ever since. I mean, no matter what he's doing in life,
Speaker 1: if I call him, he's like, what do you need
Speaker 1: for me to do? I'm right there for you. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my heart. Teach you. Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: You also used to sing with Kirk Car and the
Speaker 1: Kirk Car Singers. Right then you said you didn't sing
Speaker 1: on for Every Mountain. No, that young lady's name is
Speaker 1: Yvette Williams. No, no, no, not the song. I thought
Speaker 1: you sang with the with the actual choir because I
Speaker 1: was okay. I was in San Mateo a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago and I met a producer who used to
Speaker 1: work with you there and I told you about that
Speaker 1: from the mac family, and she spoke very highly of you.
Speaker 1: She but she was saying that she I thought she
Speaker 1: said that you're saying with Kirk Frank, I mean with
Speaker 1: Kirk Carr and the Kirk Carr Singers, One for every Mountain.
Speaker 1: If you never saying another gospel song for me, I
Speaker 1: can listen to the Lord. I'm sorry all day every
Speaker 1: day in the night and the happy times and in
Speaker 1: the same time, because I know what it did for
Speaker 1: me the words Tyler Perry wrote that song. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Tyler Perry was going through, but Tyler Perry,
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry put those words the paper. But you brought
Speaker 1: that song such to life, Keisha, Oh my god? And
Speaker 1: why you based that? Because you do the radio where
Speaker 1: in Memphis? Uh No, I live in Dallas, Texas. I'm
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas. Um, this is that. This has been
Speaker 1: my only home. So yeah, it's Dallas for me. I
Speaker 1: love that. What was I going to ask you? Because
Speaker 1: the flame messer coming in? Because I've been sending all
Speaker 1: my flame mess you because I talked about on my
Speaker 1: love Lounge. I've talked about the story of you and
Speaker 1: I in the song I played numerous times, so I
Speaker 1: know people be in your inbox said flame played this flame.
Speaker 1: I am very I'm loyal about nothing else. I ain't
Speaker 1: much of nothing else, but I'm very loyal. But I'm
Speaker 1: a signing of it. Let me let y'all know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you too, how did you get your
Speaker 1: starting music? Because we, like I was saying, before you
Speaker 1: came on we've had conversations about how music has really
Speaker 1: gotten us through the pandemic, and nobody, I don't think,
Speaker 1: really understood how important and vital it is. So how
Speaker 1: did you get your starting music? And then we can
Speaker 1: kind of trail into what music has done for you
Speaker 1: in your life. Well, I got my start um, while
Speaker 1: I started singing, like probably at the age of four.
Speaker 1: I was really young, and my first major thing was
Speaker 1: with Kirk. Kirk would do this uh Martin Luther King
Speaker 1: program every year and I met a guy, a girl
Speaker 1: in my college that asked me. She was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to this concert tonight, so do you want to go? Sure?
Speaker 1: So went to the concert. Um, I guess because I
Speaker 1: was sitting on the front row with her, he assumed
Speaker 1: that I could sing, and he just pulled me up
Speaker 1: and gave me the mic and I sang. And after
Speaker 1: the concert he was like, look, I'm putting this group
Speaker 1: together called the Family, and I would love to have you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I've got to ask my mom
Speaker 1: because I'm only eighteen years old, and he was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll have a meeting with her. So he talked to
Speaker 1: my mom and my aunt and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: she's in college right now, so I don't know. So
Speaker 1: he convinced them and the rest is history. How did
Speaker 1: you get hooked up with Tyler? Okay? So because of
Speaker 1: the track record with Kirk, Um, the promoter for that
Speaker 1: show also was starting to promote Tyler. And this was
Speaker 1: at a point to where Um, Kirk and the family
Speaker 1: was going their separate ways and I didn't know what
Speaker 1: I was gonna do next. So I went to the
Speaker 1: promoter and I was like, look, I need some work
Speaker 1: and he was like, well, I have this new guy
Speaker 1: named Tyler Perry that's coming out with this play, and
Speaker 1: if you're interested, I need you to drive to Houston
Speaker 1: and talk to him. No, said, got in my car,
Speaker 1: drove to Houston. Mett Tyler. At that time, he was
Speaker 1: doing a play, his very first play, which was called
Speaker 1: I Know I've Been Changed Awesome. Oh my god. That
Speaker 1: show was amazing. But after the show, I met Tyler
Speaker 1: and I was like, Hi, I'm Kesha. He said, oh,
Speaker 1: I know who you are. He said, read the script,
Speaker 1: go over, let me know if you like it, and
Speaker 1: we'll just go from there. So I read the script
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to do it. And
Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, that was it. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't have to do too much due to, you know,
Speaker 1: the link between Tyler and the promoter. So that's how
Speaker 1: I got in. Oh girl, I want to hear nobody
Speaker 1: else seen that. So if I don't hear another woman,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight. I'm propmt y'all. I'm telling you, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear nobody seeing that song. You cal bear, girl,
Speaker 1: don't do that. So little Bernie told me that you
Speaker 1: and Kirk Franklin might be collaborating again very soon. I
Speaker 1: don't know, we might be. We'll see. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin, stop playing and call my girl. Don't talk sometimes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm when we have are we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a little meeting, a little power just to hang out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he needs to come on with a come
Speaker 1: on the stop trip and tell us to like pandemic?
Speaker 1: What was that like for you? What do music do
Speaker 1: for you? You know what? What what was going through
Speaker 1: your mind during the pandemic and what do music do?
Speaker 1: Pandemic actually turned out to be a blessing for me. Um.
Speaker 1: I was able to record my entire project during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: so um going through the actual motions of it, I
Speaker 1: never worried about it too much. People and my family
Speaker 1: were getting sick, but I knew that God was gonna
Speaker 1: protect me because I knew that I had an assignment.
Speaker 1: I knew I had more work to do, so I
Speaker 1: dove off into my music. I I finished my album
Speaker 1: within a year. But it was work, work, work on
Speaker 1: this project because this is my actually my first project
Speaker 1: solo wise, so for me, this was um my baby,
Speaker 1: so I had to put my all into it. So
Speaker 1: I was shut off from the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: I was in the studio most of the time, so
Speaker 1: it didn't affect me in a bad way. I was
Speaker 1: able to accomplish something that I wanted to do all
Speaker 1: my life, so it wasn't a bad thing for me. Keisha,
Speaker 1: who was some of your gospel influences before and now
Speaker 1: you know passed and not dead but just an old
Speaker 1: school and now my number one influence was Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: Anybody that knew me know that Whitney was the one
Speaker 1: that actually did it for me. We performed at an
Speaker 1: award show and Whitney performed with us, so everybody in
Speaker 1: the family knew that I was Whitney Houston fanatic. And
Speaker 1: she was standing on the stage telling me to come
Speaker 1: over to speak to her, and she was like, come here,
Speaker 1: come in, come Mary, and I just stood there and
Speaker 1: I just I could not move. I was for I
Speaker 1: could not. I I'm mad at myself to this day
Speaker 1: because I didn't go over there and say something. Tour
Speaker 1: So Whitney Houston, UM and gospel it's Derenda Clark cole Um.
Speaker 1: I love Lee Andrea, I love the Clark Sisters period um.
Speaker 1: But for gospel, I like more of I'm more of
Speaker 1: a deeper range type of lover of a singer. So
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys in gospel. Darryl Coley, Terrell,
Speaker 1: I love Terrell. Lord. That boy Terrell used to come
Speaker 1: to Dallas and we would drive down the street, and
Speaker 1: all people want to do is that he should do
Speaker 1: this like bo I'm not just to sit in this
Speaker 1: car and try to riff like I can't sing like
Speaker 1: we would say. We would go to six Flags and
Speaker 1: we would not ride nothing. We would stay in the
Speaker 1: studio boo the entire time singing. Three kinds of fan too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, he definitely three kinds of fan. He twelve
Speaker 1: now he twelve times a game. He three kinds of fine.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, well, I know him persons, I
Speaker 1: can say, I'm not saying nothing that's not public. Oh
Speaker 1: when he got telling you he's fine? He I know.
Speaker 1: I look. That thing is delicious, gorgeous. That thing is
Speaker 1: as Gard and Peter Pan and a pal Kate baby.
Speaker 1: Real talk. He has a handsome man. He is a
Speaker 1: very handsome. Because I want to know, um, because because
Speaker 1: you do you have any children? No, you're not playing
Speaker 1: on having any. I'm too old girl. Please come take
Speaker 1: one of man. I can't one for you right in
Speaker 1: the house right now, party trained and everything. Oh I
Speaker 1: got Please Was that a conscious decision or you just
Speaker 1: didn't get married so you don't have a baby? Um?
Speaker 1: Earlier in my life, No, I didn't because I was
Speaker 1: traveling the world. You know. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: i'll do that later. Um. But later on in life
Speaker 1: I started because I was married at one point and
Speaker 1: my husband and I tried to have a kid and
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. So I was like, well, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not working because I got something else to do later.
Speaker 1: So you know, I keep everybody else's kids. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the favorite aunt in the world. I'm the best auntie ever.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what's your what's your address? Because I'm
Speaker 1: I got you some nieces in here because I'm it's
Speaker 1: challenging being a parent, especially being a single parent. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you that, baby, I got some daughters that
Speaker 1: challenged me, and I have created monsters. I have turned
Speaker 1: me into little means and that's very true. I gotta
Speaker 1: give you that. Oh my gosh, it's a nightmare, Okasha.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, though, what is your preference? Do
Speaker 1: you prefer singing or acting or do you love them equally?
Speaker 1: I love them equally. So what would be the dream
Speaker 1: project singing? And then the dream project acting? Dream projects singing? Well,
Speaker 1: the person I would wanted to do it with she's gone,
Speaker 1: but after her, I would love to do something with
Speaker 1: Leandrea Fantasia. That's the type of singer I am, sole
Speaker 1: Andrea Fantasia, Derenda. Those are those powerhouse singers and I
Speaker 1: would love to do something with them. And you look
Speaker 1: beautiful on this cover. The makeup, the makeup is beautiful.
Speaker 1: Her name is Layla Monade. She is amazing girl. You
Speaker 1: look like the Indian you look like Pokahonted, right, I
Speaker 1: get it all, well, most of the time, I get um,
Speaker 1: do you have Chinese in your blood? I'm just glad.
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me got a little bit of air
Speaker 1: thing because the slave man couldn't stay at the slave quarter.
Speaker 1: That black girl magic been going popping since we got here,
Speaker 1: exactly the second part of the question, what's the dream project?
Speaker 1: Acting wise, dream film? Or who to work with? Um?
Speaker 1: Acting wise? Um, I would love to work with Tyler again. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I would love to work with Lee Daniels. I want
Speaker 1: to work with all the black uh directors exactly support
Speaker 1: everybody black. I feel that. Yeah. Yeah, But if I
Speaker 1: were to go outside, I would love to do something
Speaker 1: with Steven Spielberg. Yeah, somebody that I would consider. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she was starstruck. Somebody said, why didn't you go over
Speaker 1: to Whitney? She was starstruck? Oh gosh. And I've met
Speaker 1: so many celebrities, but Whitney is the only one that
Speaker 1: I've sail. I've sang on stage with Patti LaBelle like Facebook,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're battling, singing, and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: like wow, I can't believe I did this. But when
Speaker 1: it came to Whitney Houston. Oh God, she's alpha and
Speaker 1: omega for me and singing. She really is. Yeah, I won't.
Speaker 1: I know. Tyler is bringing Medea out of retirement and
Speaker 1: he's doing some new movie and he's gonna show his
Speaker 1: old stripper days and his name is gonna be delicious.
Speaker 1: My dear needs how best girlfriend used to work in
Speaker 1: this great club. Stripper club was scrumptuous. That would be me,
Speaker 1: ty Lo, call a bit while you're delicious. We'll just
Speaker 1: be a whole buffet. That would be amazing. But if
Speaker 1: we do that, you have to come and sing. I
Speaker 1: know I need you in the play because I need
Speaker 1: you to sing, because girl, I may just break out
Speaker 1: and side crying. That's the song. Key, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I was and I am. Everybody's like flaming you so strong,
Speaker 1: you woo. But everybody has a point to where they
Speaker 1: have been to a place where there was just nobody
Speaker 1: you could talk to that could bring you out of it.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I was just scrolling through something
Speaker 1: and I heard that, and girl, I stopped dating my tracks.
Speaker 1: I stopped, like this is it this? I hear you?
Speaker 1: I heard you, girl. I was retrying to come to
Speaker 1: your house. I ain't know where you live, but I
Speaker 1: was gonna come to your house. You know. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm so thankful because you just never know the impact
Speaker 1: that you have on people. And I get messages. Even
Speaker 1: though I did that play over ten years ago, I
Speaker 1: still get inboxes saying stuff like what you said, And
Speaker 1: you never know how you touch a person. But every
Speaker 1: person that has told me that I've impacted their life,
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful because I've had people that have impacted mine,
Speaker 1: and I'm just grateful that you are my my friend,
Speaker 1: and I love you so much. And I hope I
Speaker 1: can win you over with one of my new songs,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's possible. Love Lounge Tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna playing my Love Loune tonight. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we do we do. I'm gonna playing on the Love Lounge.
Speaker 1: I might not talk nice about it, not in a
Speaker 1: bad way, in a sexual way. You know you're you're
Speaker 1: a Christian woman. You might not want to listen to
Speaker 1: you on that. But we play all kinds of music.
Speaker 1: I love to introduce audiences to the B side. And
Speaker 1: I always say that because people only here what's popular
Speaker 1: played in See that's what happened when you get old school.
Speaker 1: See when we was old school and you had a
Speaker 1: record player and you was cleaning up the house and
Speaker 1: washing walls and scrubbing floors, you didn't have time to
Speaker 1: stop and change the song back to the you you
Speaker 1: put the damn or the pinion of the quarter on
Speaker 1: the arm and you just let it play all the
Speaker 1: way through. That's right, that's right, that's right. I remember
Speaker 1: those days. I had to watch walls. See that's why
Speaker 1: I love you, Keisha. Let me ask you, what advice
Speaker 1: or like wisdom or you know, a little nugget would
Speaker 1: you give somebody trying to come up in the music
Speaker 1: industry now, based on all of your experience, what would
Speaker 1: be like the one golden nugget that you would give
Speaker 1: them for their career? Learn the music business again, learn
Speaker 1: the music business. So many people we've seen those documentaries
Speaker 1: with TLC and Tony Braxton of getting played in the industry.
Speaker 1: HA to know what you're getting into because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of vultures in there and secular music and in gospel,
Speaker 1: so you have to be on top of what you're signing.
Speaker 1: You have to be on top of what you know.
Speaker 1: You're singing, but you need to make sure that you're
Speaker 1: getting some type of something off of what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Because this please learn the music business. Everybody wants to sing,
Speaker 1: everybody is just happy to be there, but don't get
Speaker 1: so into it that you forget that there's a business
Speaker 1: aspect of it, and everybody is making off of making
Speaker 1: money off of what you're doing, except for you. So
Speaker 1: make sure that you learn the music business and never
Speaker 1: give up on your dream. I almost gave up on
Speaker 1: trying to do a solo project because nobody was calling
Speaker 1: my phone to do anything. But right in the nick
Speaker 1: of time, God sent a guy by the name of Kelby,
Speaker 1: which is my production seame J Production, and he said,
Speaker 1: I want to do your project that I don't want
Speaker 1: you to worry about no money paying for it. I
Speaker 1: just want you to do a project. So what what
Speaker 1: God has for you, you have to know it's for you.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Flame. Flame hadn't done anything in a
Speaker 1: long time, and God brought Tiffany right back to her life,
Speaker 1: and Tiffany honored her and did what she said she
Speaker 1: was gonna do. If if if God has an assignment
Speaker 1: for you, God's delay is not his denial. It will
Speaker 1: come to pass away. That's a good one. I like
Speaker 1: that one. That was a good one. You know what
Speaker 1: I want to ask you when you just mentioned because
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of gospel music. Did the other side? Because you
Speaker 1: know Christians and we love the Lord, But on the
Speaker 1: other side, some of them Christians cuts up. Baby green
Speaker 1: Leaf told it all how how treacherous is because who
Speaker 1: I grew up on gospel music female was um Tremaye Hawkins.
Speaker 1: And see Tremaine Hawkins is my ultimate everything because that's
Speaker 1: just the right there. Also wrote a song that saved
Speaker 1: me called excuse Me I was in prison. I was
Speaker 1: in prison, heard that and just another time that God
Speaker 1: pulled me out the fire. But she doesn't get the
Speaker 1: regulzy because when Landa Adams came out, it seemed like
Speaker 1: it just opened up a flower for gospel music. What's
Speaker 1: the dark side on the other side of Keisha? It's
Speaker 1: definitely a dark side, just like anything else. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I just said, you have to make sure that
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing before you step in the fire. Um.
Speaker 1: I thank God for every opportunity that I was able
Speaker 1: to have, and I thank God for the trials that
Speaker 1: I had to go through. You know, Um, the hardest
Speaker 1: thing is being in something and you're sitting on a
Speaker 1: shelf and you can't do nothing. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of that happens in music period. You sign a record
Speaker 1: deal and ten years when I went by, and you
Speaker 1: ain't done nothing and you're just sitting there waiting. So
Speaker 1: gospel behind this means it's not no better or worse
Speaker 1: than secular. It's all the same. Will you will you
Speaker 1: ever sing secular music? I will sing music. I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a lover of music. I went to a performing
Speaker 1: art school. Um Erica Bado was a singer when I
Speaker 1: was a freshman at my high school. Um Norah Jones
Speaker 1: came out of my school. So I can sing classical music,
Speaker 1: I can read music. I can sing jazz. I can
Speaker 1: sing just about every genre. So I'm a lover of
Speaker 1: music period. So yeah, I'm singing every I can sing everything.
Speaker 1: That's very Aretha frankl Reatha say, I can do anything.
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing I can't do. I love to read it.
Speaker 1: For that wreath, it was a gangst The wreatha was
Speaker 1: like and what did you tell I can't do let
Speaker 1: me give it to me. I love to read it
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. I used to think I could do anything,
Speaker 1: and then I tried walking up the stairs real fast
Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, no, are you went to book of
Speaker 1: t High School in Dallas. Will Gill knows that something
Speaker 1: you see, the flame meths will research you. My my,
Speaker 1: my lord. Listeners are very smart and they're very loyal.
Speaker 1: I do pray myself on having the smartest listeners on
Speaker 1: the internet because there's some dumbass people out here, but
Speaker 1: my people are smart. I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: now we're going to politics. I want and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna even ask you how how you rad and who
Speaker 1: you vote with? But um, you guys got a lot
Speaker 1: going on in Texas with who is that kemp uh
Speaker 1: abbot Abbott with your governor and then you know, you
Speaker 1: guys had that blackout because you all have your own
Speaker 1: grid there. What is Texas? Were you? You're in the blackout?
Speaker 1: How long? Almost three weeks? What is Texas going to
Speaker 1: do about all of these ten cruises and all these
Speaker 1: foods that y'all keep voting to put in positions that
Speaker 1: they don't care about people by us being a red state.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure of the future of Texas. Um. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are ready to ready for a change,
Speaker 1: and I hope that that's the case for real. But
Speaker 1: by me living in a red state, it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So much has happened, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. Look, you and me, you and
Speaker 1: us both, we don't know nothing. Baby, let me chell
Speaker 1: something the well. The times keep changing and the last
Speaker 1: keep coming. And I just believe me. I believe me. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: you know. I just I just pray that things change
Speaker 1: for us. It's gonna take a miracle because the Red
Speaker 1: States they loyal even if something is being done wrong,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be loyal. You're not watching the news, you
Speaker 1: know there was. It was a picnic on January six
Speaker 1: in d C. But in Georgia, Baby, it was a
Speaker 1: celebration called Stacy araom said, we turning it blue. I
Speaker 1: love it. When I saw that I was, I was
Speaker 1: lord and grateful because I never thought I would have
Speaker 1: let me. I'm sorry, I'm gonna get you. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question as a black woman and in
Speaker 1: times right now, how proud of you are? Are you
Speaker 1: of so many amazing black women right now? Because black
Speaker 1: women is whoa like a train with no brakes right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I'm so when I see reports that
Speaker 1: say black women are the top graduates of college, and
Speaker 1: I knew that that's who we were. I love it.
Speaker 1: Like to write about that, I love it. I love
Speaker 1: it when I see our black women doing it. I'm
Speaker 1: it's like having that big s on your chest because
Speaker 1: I know we as women go through so much, we
Speaker 1: have to endure so much, and to see that see
Speaker 1: us still going through that and still coming out on
Speaker 1: top is amazing. I'm proud to say that I'm a
Speaker 1: degreed woman that that that's something that I wear proudly
Speaker 1: on top of my music stuff. You know, I'm proud
Speaker 1: to be able to say, yeah, I gotta degree as well.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to sign. I can do
Speaker 1: other stuff too well. I'm not gonna let you all
Speaker 1: get away to all these degrees on that she went
Speaker 1: to spell when you graduate, I went to prison? Does
Speaker 1: that I got a degree in the street smart? I
Speaker 1: went to prison, baby, I gotta degree, but it might
Speaker 1: not have been for for a uh. I got an
Speaker 1: electricians degree. I'll tell you about that for my one
Speaker 1: hour special. What I do want to do though, Keisha's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring on a couple of the flame mats.
Speaker 1: They've been in the comments, so I'm gonna bring in
Speaker 1: people love you, Keisha. I'm telling you I have told
Speaker 1: your story our story because that's our story. That is
Speaker 1: our story, and I have told it publicly. I've cried
Speaker 1: about it and everything. Not today though yesterday. This is
Speaker 1: Joey Honey. I'm supposed to got a new CD ou
Speaker 1: Epito Me. I want you all to get it. It's
Speaker 1: on Spotify, Iune, loans, Apple, all of that. Because guess what,
Speaker 1: we have to support each other. And this is her
Speaker 1: first project solo, her baby, so we gotta get this
Speaker 1: her first. Yeah, this is the first baby girl. I
Speaker 1: got a third one over here. You can come get
Speaker 1: that one ship. Yeah, your kids to Texas. They'll have
Speaker 1: the best time ever. God, I got one out there.
Speaker 1: One can I send it right now? We don't bring
Speaker 1: our partner the next myth in so he can question
Speaker 1: talk with you because when you know, it's three of us,
Speaker 1: but he's uh, he's our He's in Boston. He's on vacation. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. You know we
Speaker 1: love you, We love your music and Flame and said
Speaker 1: you you touched flames, life and Flame and shared that story.
Speaker 1: So being part of her testimony, I want to personally
Speaker 1: thank you for being part of the show today because
Speaker 1: we are honored to have you as a guest. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you for having me. You know
Speaker 1: you was a couple. Everybody did a couple of what
Speaker 1: in box Inbox Flame. I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I'm still out of here single in these
Speaker 1: three so I'm trying to keep me in prayer. Do
Speaker 1: that that I have to keep up with Flame and
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Yeah, no, nothing like that. I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you a question though, as we
Speaker 1: get started here, you're talking about gospel and your influence
Speaker 1: any of the older women like the Tremaine Hawkins. Do
Speaker 1: you still listen to any of that? Do those things
Speaker 1: still move you on? On the random Sunday when you're
Speaker 1: cleaning your house and you just got your music going,
Speaker 1: that's all I listened to is old gospel. The old
Speaker 1: gospel music gets me through whatever situation I'm going through.
Speaker 1: The Tremaine's uh, c c uh pa. Yes, guy, yeah,
Speaker 1: those those old choirs. I'm a choir lover. I love
Speaker 1: Milton Bronson, um all that old stuff. Yes, don't know
Speaker 1: nothing about Reverend Milton Bronson and Tompson community singing thing.
Speaker 1: And there is no way you don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 1: I said, you gave me chills when you just said
Speaker 1: you might have to give us a land of that.
Speaker 1: You know you don't have to sing for us before
Speaker 1: you leave, so you just sat on what you want
Speaker 1: to give us. You don't have to give us a
Speaker 1: little change of something. But Keisha, let me ask you though,
Speaker 1: because I know you said you started singing you when
Speaker 1: you were four, But did you actually grow up in
Speaker 1: the church? Like was that your foundation of singing? And
Speaker 1: if it was, what was that like? Um? I grew
Speaker 1: up in church. Um, I was adopted, so my adopted family. UM,
Speaker 1: my dad was a pastor and my mom was the
Speaker 1: first lady. So I had to be on the straight narrow.
Speaker 1: I was at church Sunday. I'm Sunday morning, noon night, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday sold. Church was my life. And when I grew up,
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't gonna go to church no more.
Speaker 1: But well they do have people that go to church
Speaker 1: for fast twelve days after week. I told my Grandmama
Speaker 1: used to try to do that to me. I said,
Speaker 1: I wanted the church. One day, said God, I know
Speaker 1: you seek of my ship. Ain't even coming back. I
Speaker 1: know you're seeking me. I know you're sick of my ship.
Speaker 1: I love it. But you know, I've never been the
Speaker 1: type of person to judge nobody's lifestyle because us in
Speaker 1: the church, trust me, we got just as many issues
Speaker 1: as anybody else, whether they want to admit it or not,
Speaker 1: but just as much go on in church as it
Speaker 1: does outside of it. And I'm one of those ones
Speaker 1: that would be like, look, I'm far from perfect. That's
Speaker 1: why you know, so so many people called thee Andrea
Speaker 1: crazy and she's out of order. Look I love Lee Andrea.
Speaker 1: Andrea is who she is, but she but but she
Speaker 1: loves God. We all struggle, as Donnie say, we all
Speaker 1: fall down, but we get up. We all have struggles,
Speaker 1: and that's what people need to see with Christians because
Speaker 1: we try to make ourselves look like we're perfect. When
Speaker 1: the stuff that comes, when the covers come out and
Speaker 1: they start seeing who you really are, then you gotta
Speaker 1: start trying to fix and try to tell people you know, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, God isn't but let people know
Speaker 1: that you're still human. We are still humans. So the
Speaker 1: human side of us are gonna do things that's not
Speaker 1: pleasing to God. But we strive to be perfect, which
Speaker 1: will never be. And I'm not gonna even try to try.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even try to be perfect because I
Speaker 1: know I'm not. I love God, but I'm not perfect.
Speaker 1: M Let me ask you a questions about mentorship. I
Speaker 1: have to believe that there are times when you run
Speaker 1: across other young people who are aspiring singers or actresses,
Speaker 1: and they they ask you for advice. What advice do
Speaker 1: you have to share with some of them who would
Speaker 1: like to emulate your career in your trajectory. I most
Speaker 1: of the time tell the young people. I actually have
Speaker 1: a little group of young ladies that created a fan
Speaker 1: page for me. UM. I always try to tell them,
Speaker 1: you know, don't give up on your dream. Get involved
Speaker 1: in local stuff in your communities. You know, the theater.
Speaker 1: There's always some type of theater thing in your in
Speaker 1: your community. UM. Try to go to schools that you
Speaker 1: know that boost you and help you in those areas
Speaker 1: because I promise you my school prepared me for a lot.
Speaker 1: The only thing, the only fault that my school, um,
Speaker 1: that I have against my schools. They didn't teach us
Speaker 1: about the music business. They taught us how to be stars,
Speaker 1: but they didn't teach us how to conduct our business
Speaker 1: within that. You opened the door there, talk to us
Speaker 1: about that. What have you learned along the way? UM,
Speaker 1: I've learned that you have to make sure that your
Speaker 1: businesses in order or you will you'll have issues. You'll
Speaker 1: have issues. Can you touch something there? I'm sorry, y'all,
Speaker 1: fins touching stuff that she shouldn't be touching. So now
Speaker 1: we have problems. So I'm sorry to keep you go
Speaker 1: ahead telling the story of my life. You have to
Speaker 1: you have to be on your piece and keys. There's
Speaker 1: a book that's out there that's called All you Need
Speaker 1: to Know about the Music Business. And if your singing
Speaker 1: career is gonna be your business, you need to learn
Speaker 1: how to conduct that. You can't just be going everywhere
Speaker 1: and singing for two dollars and to to you know,
Speaker 1: and this is that's your livelihood. Now, if that's something
Speaker 1: that you just do, you know as an extra, you
Speaker 1: know activity and then that's different. But if this is
Speaker 1: your career, you have to make sure that you're set
Speaker 1: into place in order to be able to survive. Now,
Speaker 1: being a gospel artist, it's a lot harder trying to
Speaker 1: be a gospel artist and live a good life like that.
Speaker 1: There's very few in gospel that's able to do that.
Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin is allowed is able to do that. Um
Speaker 1: your landa um who else Donnie see see one. There's
Speaker 1: very few in our industry that that's able to make
Speaker 1: up a great living at doing that. So you have
Speaker 1: to find other avenues. That's why I'm glad God bless
Speaker 1: me to be able to sing other genres of music.
Speaker 1: I still sing jazz. I traveled and I sing jazz music.
Speaker 1: So with that gift that you have, you have to
Speaker 1: find other avenues to do what you love to do.
Speaker 1: If you if you're trying to be a gospel artist.
Speaker 1: You know, and I love Keisha that when I reached
Speaker 1: out to you years ago inbox, you never judge me.
Speaker 1: You never looked at me sad ways, you never It's
Speaker 1: just the message whatever. I don't even remember what message
Speaker 1: I sent you, but I remember telling you. Then you
Speaker 1: know that that song had saved me, and girl, just
Speaker 1: and you knew I was because you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: look like this, sometimes I look like that. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: look like those in them. But girl, you were just
Speaker 1: I love that you are accepting of people. To me,
Speaker 1: that is what makes people christ like. Because everybody got
Speaker 1: an opinion. I got one too, and man, don't man,
Speaker 1: don't stop never. But you just embraced who I was
Speaker 1: as a person because I came to you as a fan,
Speaker 1: as a person who to let you know what the
Speaker 1: impact that you did have on me? Uh? Were you
Speaker 1: always like that? Were you raised with your because I
Speaker 1: know you said you were adopted. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that Tiffany would have loved to hear that. You know,
Speaker 1: Tiffany loved the whole adoption process and everything. The people
Speaker 1: that raised you, I know you said they were very religious.
Speaker 1: Were they like that open to the LGBT community and
Speaker 1: open to other people outside of what they were? They
Speaker 1: were more of like, okay, because all my friends have
Speaker 1: always been gay. I went to a performing art school,
Speaker 1: so most of the friends that I brought around were gay,
Speaker 1: so they knew of the life. But um they were
Speaker 1: They were not as accepting as I was. But they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, well, okay, that's fine, that's fine because
Speaker 1: they know Keisha was gonna be Keisha, and Keisha was
Speaker 1: gonna be around who she wanted to. So the older
Speaker 1: that they get and they see, you know, how the
Speaker 1: world has changed and evolved, they really don't. They really
Speaker 1: don't have an opinion. Sometimes they'll be like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I don't know, And all I
Speaker 1: say is, you know, God is loved. God loved everybody,
Speaker 1: no matter who they are. God loves everybody. So the
Speaker 1: older that they're getting, the more they're more receptive to it.
Speaker 1: I've always been somebody's good Judy, that's my land, keyship,
Speaker 1: that's my land, the whole. All Bibles in all languages
Speaker 1: could have three pages and say God is loved and
Speaker 1: nothing else, all that extra we all need all that extra. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's not our place to judge nobody. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times those that be judging be heaven their little
Speaker 1: secret lives. Anyway, behind the scene, you're gonna talking about
Speaker 1: your Cosby he just got out. Wait a minute, who
Speaker 1: am I to judge and tell somebody who they are
Speaker 1: and who they're not that's not my place. My place
Speaker 1: is to only preach God's love. That's my only job.
Speaker 1: Preach God's love, show people love, genuine love, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's my only job as a believer. I want
Speaker 1: you guys to get the CD and I want you
Speaker 1: guys to follow Keisha Grandy. What's your what is it
Speaker 1: Keisha Nation? That's your fan club or the official Keisha Grandy.
Speaker 1: I want you all to follow Keisha. I want you
Speaker 1: to get this a pity me c D because flame matks.
Speaker 1: We have to support our people. Keisha is one of
Speaker 1: the keisha Is. If it wasn't for Kesha Grandy, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all wouldn't know me. Understand that, if it was not
Speaker 1: for that, maybe I'm singing that song, y'all would know
Speaker 1: me because I I'm telling you, I was there and
Speaker 1: I am a brick. Nothing breaks me, but I was
Speaker 1: a broken bitch at that time. But crack like a egg. Keisha.
Speaker 1: Letting me ask you to what upcoming projects outside? I mean,
Speaker 1: we have the album, we know that what else is
Speaker 1: coming up and we can expect from you and be
Speaker 1: on the lookout for. Um Well, I am doing my
Speaker 1: first video shoot coming up in August. That's coming up,
Speaker 1: and I will be making a vocal appearance. And a
Speaker 1: new movie that's coming out called For the Love of Money. Um,
Speaker 1: that's with Kat Williams and Oh my gosh who stars
Speaker 1: in that. So it's a slew up stars in that movie.
Speaker 1: And I'll be singing in the funeral scene. Are we
Speaker 1: gonna be able to see you out in like venues
Speaker 1: and things like that since the world is opening up, Like,
Speaker 1: are you on to get in that space where people
Speaker 1: can come and see you perform live as well? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely working on that. So I'm doing a gazillion interviews.
Speaker 1: I thank God for you, guys. I thank you guys.
Speaker 1: I thank God for Flame for putting me on her
Speaker 1: platform because she didn't have to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: so I thank Flame for being such a loyal person,
Speaker 1: and I mean Flame is royalty, so for her to
Speaker 1: even say to this little girl from Texas, I want
Speaker 1: you to come on my platform. I thank God for you,
Speaker 1: guys so so much for having me here. But yeah
Speaker 1: I have I'm I'm lining up trying to line up
Speaker 1: shows now and yeah, all of that's in the works.
Speaker 1: Love it, love it. I have a question. I have
Speaker 1: a question if I when when in there, if I
Speaker 1: come and see you laugh and you know I'm there,
Speaker 1: am I gonna? Am I gonna get my song? I
Speaker 1: know that might not be part of your repertoire, but
Speaker 1: am I gonna personally get my song? If I see
Speaker 1: you in the audience, I'm gonna break out with it, girl,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see me because I'm gonna have the
Speaker 1: biggest wigo and my titties will be sitting right here
Speaker 1: always see me, and I'm gonna brain you right on
Speaker 1: up to the front. Girl. You know when you said
Speaker 1: the earlier in the show, when you said when the
Speaker 1: number was over your head to land on your face.
Speaker 1: I've been telling my listeners that's how I pray. When
Speaker 1: I go to God, I lay out like God on
Speaker 1: the cross with my face down, surrendering everything. Because that's
Speaker 1: what when you said that. I remember now because you're
Speaker 1: not black, and you laid out because you was girl.
Speaker 1: You was done and you surrendered everything. Girl, I would
Speaker 1: have loved to have been behind the scenes. How are
Speaker 1: the other actors on the play with you? After you?
Speaker 1: After that? Because I'm telling that night it was that
Speaker 1: day that taping was so powerful. Did they come and
Speaker 1: embrace you and movable? Yes, Tam, I think Tam Tam
Speaker 1: came out on the stage and got me. Um. Actually
Speaker 1: we had recorded that show twice. Um, the first one
Speaker 1: was even more powerful than the one that was put out. Um,
Speaker 1: the lights went out, so we were not able to
Speaker 1: put out the first. He could pay that got a
Speaker 1: whole studio, Tyler could pay to like you on that.
Speaker 1: But yes, that show was. I mean it was amazing
Speaker 1: even when we toured it, because we actually filmed that
Speaker 1: show like maybe five or six years later toured it,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was, it was. It was amazing. It
Speaker 1: was amazing. And the other cast members, every last cast member,
Speaker 1: because now let me tell you this, the cast member,
Speaker 1: some of the cast members that originally toured the show,
Speaker 1: we're not in the on the actual filming. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: the person that played my sister touring wise, I've had
Speaker 1: Jamisha Bennett, which is and as Thee's daughter. She was
Speaker 1: the first may Lee and then the second may Lee
Speaker 1: was Terry Brown from Trinity five seven. So we had
Speaker 1: a few values I means may Lee's uh within the show.
Speaker 1: But the lady that did that did the filming, she
Speaker 1: actually matched to look like she could have been my sister.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was amazing. Oh, I loved her.
Speaker 1: I loved her voice and her care and timler Man
Speaker 1: when she said, Tam, she was talking about timbler Man.
Speaker 1: Timler Man was so good. The young girl who played
Speaker 1: the daughter of your sister play. I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: she was a woman. She really did look like a
Speaker 1: young girl. But she's sang motherless child wonderfully. And then
Speaker 1: y'all have to see I can do bad about myself
Speaker 1: to play not the damn movie. Taggi was still acting
Speaker 1: like she was cookie. But I'm just saying that play
Speaker 1: was That play was amazing. What is the probability of
Speaker 1: you working with Tyler again? Seriously, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I would love to work with him again. Um.
Speaker 1: You know her friend of mine and interviewed him. She
Speaker 1: she was u uh, she worked for the Dallas Morning
Speaker 1: News and she did an interview. She interviewed him and
Speaker 1: she told him, she said, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: mutual friend in coming. And he was like who and
Speaker 1: uh she said, Keisha granted and he just started but
Speaker 1: he started smiling. Let me tell you what. Me and
Speaker 1: Tyler used to do. So we would always pretend like
Speaker 1: we was we was gonna kiss, so we would always
Speaker 1: go into each other's lips and then we would turn
Speaker 1: our heads. This nut. Besides, one day we're going in
Speaker 1: for our little kiss and this fool kiss my ups.
Speaker 1: I'd about passed down. But no, you ain't supposed to
Speaker 1: be kissing on me. Girl. You're supposed to marry him
Speaker 1: back then he was you should have married him, girl,
Speaker 1: you could be Mrs Tyler Perry. I know right, Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen are very special guests. Keep you Grandy. This
Speaker 1: is her new music Epidiment. It's a new project. It's
Speaker 1: a very first project. And we can find this on iTunes, Spotify,
Speaker 1: you can get it. What can what else? Can we
Speaker 1: order a keisha um if you actually want a hard copy,
Speaker 1: because you know something like the older people my family,
Speaker 1: they had to get the CD. So my mom was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how to do all that
Speaker 1: new stuff, so we made sure that CDs are available.
Speaker 1: So just email me at Grandy Inc. At y'all do
Speaker 1: at y'allhoo dot com and I can actually send you
Speaker 1: a copy. Grandy Inc. At Y'allhoo dot com and y'all
Speaker 1: follow Keisha at the official Keisha grand To Keisha Grande.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, physically, I've never met you, but
Speaker 1: spiritually you belong to me because I to you. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you you belong to me because you sister. Save me,
Speaker 1: and I mean everybody who knows me. No, I talked
Speaker 1: all day and they ain't scared of Jack, right. I
Speaker 1: was scared of that hurt. And that's why I always
Speaker 1: tell people about love that I was so broken behind
Speaker 1: that love. I tell people all the time, I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid of the new love. I'm afraid of the old hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: makes total sense. I can't do it, girl, you ain't gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you gotta say. You gotta give us a line
Speaker 1: of even if it's just a little riff. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear. If I want to hear, Lord, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: just just a tain't just a little bit. Please forgive
Speaker 1: me God. I'll never about to another man again who
Speaker 1: I never know. Her mother's love, no peace to find
Speaker 1: in my heart and I don't even Oh it's your
Speaker 1: but has done so much wrong? Did you free see
Speaker 1: see how the devil be you? See the devil. The
Speaker 1: devil is a liar. The devil is I've done so
Speaker 1: so she said, I've done so much wrong. I had
Speaker 1: to look up because I knew she was talking to me.
Speaker 1: The devil is A wait a minute, kill you? What happened?
Speaker 1: A little frozen? She's frozen? Lauren fixed elsa. Okay, there
Speaker 1: you are, come back. I need you to start right.
Speaker 1: But I don't see when you said I've done so
Speaker 1: much wrong. The devil is a lot of the devil.
Speaker 1: You're right, because you knew you're talking to me. It
Speaker 1: was you frozen. I'm singing again. I just wanted to hear.
Speaker 1: But I've done so much wrong. Lord knows that I
Speaker 1: have seen. Yep, that's my lane right there, because that's
Speaker 1: that's some real ship for me. Up done so much? Roll?
Speaker 1: Lot of nose? See? How do I get up from me?
Speaker 1: Is this? What? How hap begin? I'm gonna stop. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. This is the project? Maybe that
Speaker 1: the name of that song that she just sang. It's
Speaker 1: not on this CD, but it's called Lord. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: from the Tyler periods player. I can do bad out
Speaker 1: by myself, and I'm telling you right now. If you
Speaker 1: can't make it to church. And if you don't believe
Speaker 1: that you can call out to the Lord, you can
Speaker 1: put this song on. And I'm telling you the life
Speaker 1: you saved, maybe your own, because that song, when you're
Speaker 1: singing it, saved me. See, I don't know CC Wine
Speaker 1: would have sang it the same. She might not have
Speaker 1: saved me. I might want to steal, just cutting Dawn Risks,
Speaker 1: but you yeah, yeah, Kesha, Granny, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: I am I am such a fan, I am such
Speaker 1: a friend, and we appreciate you. A flame mank, y'all
Speaker 1: get some love to keep you granty and follow her
Speaker 1: and buy her music. Flame manks, don't make me stop talking. Ship,
Speaker 1: get the music, Get the music, flame mank. Let's get
Speaker 1: it when support Keisha because we call a few more topics.
Speaker 1: But Keisha, thank you for joining us. I so appreciate you,
Speaker 1: and we will be playing a couple of these songs
Speaker 1: tonight on Love Lounge. Now you need to come in
Speaker 1: out on the fake name because you know you're a
Speaker 1: Christian woman. You don't want to hear my filthy mouth
Speaker 1: tonight for I really don't thank you so much, Keisha,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Granny, thank you, my darling. Wow, that was
Speaker 1: a good conversation. Nick. What you feel about I know what,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Bill as we got
Speaker 1: out of prison and he's going back on the road
Speaker 1: to tour as a comedian. What do you think about that? Wow,
Speaker 1: that was a transition. I wanted to kind of put
Speaker 1: a button on Keys. I just thought that was fantastic
Speaker 1: Flaimer once again, just another example of somebody following their passion.
Speaker 1: So you know, we definitely have to make sure that
Speaker 1: we support her and her art. So well, that was
Speaker 1: a good time. Way. That was a good same way
Speaker 1: into Bill Cosby is following his passion. He's a comedian
Speaker 1: and he's going back on the road. Now. Mind you,
Speaker 1: when he was going to court he was blind and
Speaker 1: bent over with a cane that Nigga came pimping up
Speaker 1: out the court when they let him out. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, won't God do it? Was it? God?
Speaker 1: So lui? It must be? Because I'm thinking that anytime.
Speaker 1: You know, he's always been a man of faith, right,
Speaker 1: and he said even at his conviction that this would
Speaker 1: not last. He felt strong in the process. Uh, oh
Speaker 1: that's us. Sorry, go ahead, oh no, no problem, Lauren
Speaker 1: was flame backing up Mr Rosetta, get your son one left,
Speaker 1: good for you, good for you? Just yes, yes, let
Speaker 1: me say what I've got to say about Bill Cosby.
Speaker 1: I think that Bill Cosby will probably sell out a
Speaker 1: few arenas because people want to hear what he has
Speaker 1: to say. Here's my thing. When you know Bill is
Speaker 1: eighty four. When he's on stage and he said, can
Speaker 1: I get a drink, he'll probably say, just don't bring
Speaker 1: me one of man. Real talk, just real talk. He
Speaker 1: might go to sleep on stage. Remember, to be fair,
Speaker 1: people did support Louis c k when he went back
Speaker 1: out on the road, you know. So I think that
Speaker 1: there's a space for men who have been accused of
Speaker 1: maybe bad things to always have a comeback. I don't
Speaker 1: know that that same space is given to um to
Speaker 1: everyone else. So yeah, I just think that there are
Speaker 1: men who who will always be given a pass for
Speaker 1: whatever reason UM to return back to what it is
Speaker 1: they love to do. Because I don't think that we
Speaker 1: hold most men accountable in the same ways that we
Speaker 1: hold people who are not maybe uh privy to the
Speaker 1: same access. Well, let me say this, because the Internet
Speaker 1: ain't ship somebody put up a pinture picture of it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't named Angela Constantina. What was her? And next to
Speaker 1: herman monster bitch? When I tell you that was the
Speaker 1: funniest ship. Oh. They looked exactly like if you ever
Speaker 1: watched the Monsters, they looked just like she looked just
Speaker 1: like Herman Monster. I'm like, oh, Bill, there ain't no
Speaker 1: corny jokes with you. That's real ship. You ain't got
Speaker 1: to like it, baby, because you ain't watching you. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that I ain't watching you? Boo? I don't
Speaker 1: think that was directed at you. Now, that was no
Speaker 1: corn joke. That was funny what Nick said, because y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all don't know that our technic asks up off land
Speaker 1: all day. You know what. The planet's jump on me.
Speaker 1: Don't be thinking on please let them now. I was
Speaker 1: not thinking up. He's bigger than me, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: He speaker to me. He's big black. He's big black.
Speaker 1: I'm a little yellow. This is this is Tawny Brown
Speaker 1: speaking of towny tabith Can we talk about Tabitha Brown
Speaker 1: and her completely respectful, wonderful clap back to the windy
Speaker 1: It was. It was fantastic, classy, no cussin a polite
Speaker 1: and it cut to the bone. Yeah, no, it did.
Speaker 1: I'm actually very happy for her that she did it
Speaker 1: in that way. There's no people say that there's no
Speaker 1: better way to take a wind out of somebody's sale
Speaker 1: than to kill them with kindness, and that's exactly what
Speaker 1: she did. So I'm glad she got that little for
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams for sure. So, you know, Charlotte Maagne kind
Speaker 1: of touched on how he's surprised that at this stage
Speaker 1: in her career Wendy is still kind of doing the
Speaker 1: same not necessarily positive things where it's just unnecessarily nasty
Speaker 1: sometimes and and he wonders why she has not healed
Speaker 1: and kind of moved on from the kind of thing
Speaker 1: that you know, brought her into because most we see,
Speaker 1: most of these hosts evolve over time that it is
Speaker 1: not the same show year after year for a year.
Speaker 1: But I think his complaint was that he knows one
Speaker 1: day and he's like, he's surprised she's still doing the
Speaker 1: same kind of things that kind of are mean and
Speaker 1: kind of hurt people for no reason. Hurt people, hurt people,
Speaker 1: hurt people, and to be fair, to be fair, if
Speaker 1: we hadn't had I mean, Wendy hadn't had a nail
Speaker 1: in her coffin before then her ex husband married the
Speaker 1: woman that he had a baby with, So whether whatever
Speaker 1: they went through, that was a whole another pain that
Speaker 1: we publicly had to watch. She he didn't marry her,
Speaker 1: He just called her his soul mate. No, I think
Speaker 1: they got married. I think I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: they may. And I think she needed to take a
Speaker 1: break because I think she's hurt and broken. Maybe she
Speaker 1: needs to listen to Lord. I'm sorry, but keeps your grandy.
Speaker 1: It helped me. Uh, can I mention someone who reminded
Speaker 1: me of Zdi Jeddy almost got kicked out of school today,
Speaker 1: But you can't the young woman who just was script's
Speaker 1: National spelling Yes, I was so impressed with how articulate
Speaker 1: she was, how just comfortable she was in her own skin,
Speaker 1: just talking about her passion for basketball. Oh, I just
Speaker 1: did the spelling thing on the side, but her passion
Speaker 1: is really basketball, and I just thought it was. So
Speaker 1: It's always refreshing when I see young people like that
Speaker 1: who are just inherently positive, And she just seemed to
Speaker 1: be just a good spirit in her name helped me. Lauren.
Speaker 1: I think that she pronounced it Zaliah avant Garde. Okay,
Speaker 1: Julia Avangard, So congratulations. She's in the Book of World
Speaker 1: Records for dribbling. Yeah. Yeah. And she talked about with
Speaker 1: on the CBS this morning that oh yeah, the spelling.
Speaker 1: I just really liked it. And we just practiced for
Speaker 1: seven hours a day. But I really love basketball. So
Speaker 1: she was very clear that, oh yeah, I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that I want this and I put it in the work. However,
Speaker 1: my real passion is basketball. So I just thought that
Speaker 1: was fantastic, fantastic. Yeah. She said she wanted to play
Speaker 1: in the w NBA one day. And she's very humble.
Speaker 1: Whoever her parents are. Kudos to her parents because she is.
Speaker 1: For her to be such a young woman, she has
Speaker 1: so much humility, and she speaks very antic. It's not forced,
Speaker 1: it ain't fake, and reminded me of your youngest So
Speaker 1: I think, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get this compliment. So are you saying that
Speaker 1: I'm an amazing parent? Is that what you're saying. I've
Speaker 1: said that from day one, day one, and then it's
Speaker 1: absolute true. I wish people saw that and you know,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, didn't hit a beep. And when
Speaker 1: I was backing up, when the truck was making a
Speaker 1: noise with your punk as lord tax, yes, I see it,
Speaker 1: I see it now. But what I wanted to say was,
Speaker 1: I think that the special thing about this young lady
Speaker 1: is she's actually being allowed to be a fourteen year
Speaker 1: old girl. I think there's so many instances where there's
Speaker 1: young female teenagers they're not allowed to live their childhood
Speaker 1: adolescents and actually be a teenager. And she's a prime
Speaker 1: example of an individual that's being able to do that.
Speaker 1: So I think that's also to what made me so
Speaker 1: happy to see this young, bright, intelligent individual. And the
Speaker 1: president of l s U even offered her a scholarship
Speaker 1: you know if she wanted to come to the school
Speaker 1: via Twitter. So her feature is very bright, very very
Speaker 1: bright Lauren as a young woman. Seriously, though, because we
Speaker 1: kind of danced over to made a joke of it,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about um Mr Cosby and him
Speaker 1: coming back on the road. Do you feel threatened by
Speaker 1: that and difficult? You were his like you're in the
Speaker 1: in the demographic that he allegedly had been attracted to
Speaker 1: um my feelings towards Bill Cosby. One. Um, we know
Speaker 1: he's guilty because that was the premise of why he
Speaker 1: was locked up. He was given this immunity deal in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. However air tight it may or
Speaker 1: may not have been, and that's what was used to
Speaker 1: prosecute him. At the end of the day, um My
Speaker 1: condolences and UM you know, I just I have so
Speaker 1: much remorse for these women. Um. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think it's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: who chooses to patronize him now in this new time.
Speaker 1: You know, I will be very honest. I still watched
Speaker 1: the Cosby Show, but in this instance I separate, you know,
Speaker 1: Heathcliff Huxtable from Bill Cosby. Some people may not agree,
Speaker 1: but I do because I think while he did what
Speaker 1: he did, Bill Cosby in another space was actually, you know,
Speaker 1: very philanthropic. Like I, Like I said, I went to
Speaker 1: spell in college. We have a building called the Camille
Speaker 1: Cosby Building. He gave money to Spellman to erect this
Speaker 1: building in the same after his wife. So I say
Speaker 1: that to say that I think in his past what
Speaker 1: he what he did in terms of philanthropy and what
Speaker 1: he did for television and film should still be showcased
Speaker 1: and provided for the public to view. But I still
Speaker 1: think at the same time, you know, people now have
Speaker 1: the option to choose whether or not they want to
Speaker 1: patronize him. If he's going on tour and doing these
Speaker 1: other things, I personally will not be attending. However, like
Speaker 1: I said, I still watched the Cosby Show. I still
Speaker 1: watch a different world I do. It's important to our
Speaker 1: culture and to our history. So those are my feelings.
Speaker 1: I still I still supported to Bill Coby. I still
Speaker 1: love a piece of the action I grew up on.
Speaker 1: Doom Doom Do Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom doom. Hey,
Speaker 1: y'all get thee hes fat. I love that up. I
Speaker 1: love what Billy Bill Cosby stood for. But I also
Speaker 1: knew the other side because I have been around so
Speaker 1: many celebrities from way back, and I knew some things
Speaker 1: that I had heard from people who worked with him.
Speaker 1: And my biggest detriment from Bill Cosby was not what
Speaker 1: he did to the women. It was how he bashed
Speaker 1: single black mothers who were struggling to take care of
Speaker 1: their children. You know, I'm sure women when they lay
Speaker 1: down to have a baby with a man, Black women,
Speaker 1: they don't intend on being a single parent. You know,
Speaker 1: they they wanted to work out, but sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: And he was just on the fence about throwing black
Speaker 1: women under the bus. He destroyed Nikki Giovanni's career back
Speaker 1: in the day because he had that much juice. My
Speaker 1: joke on stage is always, Nigga, you should have just
Speaker 1: bought a slew of funeral homes. You could have got
Speaker 1: all the sleep pussy you on it. But you know
Speaker 1: he's out now, so maybe he'll hear that message and
Speaker 1: by him like funeral homes. Does that mean no? But
Speaker 1: I am going to piggyback on said I think I
Speaker 1: have great empathy for uh, these women who finally came
Speaker 1: forward telling their stories. You you work up the courage
Speaker 1: or and unfortunately, I do think that those who are
Speaker 1: sometimes victim or victimized carrie shamee um and or guilt
Speaker 1: for something that was no fault of their own. They
Speaker 1: carried this the shame and this guilt. So when you
Speaker 1: finally come forward and you tell this story, to not
Speaker 1: have it um honored and respected in the way you
Speaker 1: thought uh, justice would be adjudicated because you were told
Speaker 1: it would be. Um. That has to be just another
Speaker 1: blow and another another strike against women who often feel
Speaker 1: like they can't come forward and share their story. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm more in form I'm more in for
Speaker 1: that more than anything up I think to what happened,
Speaker 1: and actually my mom and I were having this conversation
Speaker 1: this morning. I think that the prosecution in Philadelphia knew
Speaker 1: that they couldn't get him, so they almost did what
Speaker 1: they did to say, he got some time and this
Speaker 1: is what we were able to give you, because I
Speaker 1: really feel like that's what it is. At this point,
Speaker 1: they knew they couldn't get him, so they were like,
Speaker 1: let's get him in jail on a technicality. We know
Speaker 1: he's going to get out eventually through the appeals process,
Speaker 1: but at least we can give some of these women
Speaker 1: something because we can't give him the full stint of
Speaker 1: what he really should be serving. So you remember, a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we read something about he had
Speaker 1: been asked, do you want to apologize because this will
Speaker 1: help your appeal, and he absolutely stopped fast and said
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't. And it also taps into learn what
Speaker 1: you and I were talking about a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago before we went on break, that there is no
Speaker 1: such thing as canceled culture clearly, uh, you know, because
Speaker 1: I thought he had been canceled, you know. And and
Speaker 1: and surely Bill Cosby is about to go back on
Speaker 1: the road, Laugh Factory and all the major places are
Speaker 1: I'm assuming if I'm a manager of a club, do
Speaker 1: you do you not book somebody who's going to sell
Speaker 1: off the venue. I don't know what you do, particularly
Speaker 1: after a year of not having anybody in theaters, would
Speaker 1: you know? I don't know what you do in that situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't think everybody believes that he's guilty either,
Speaker 1: because I even you know, I saw when you know,
Speaker 1: Felicia Rashad made her comments. I was looking on social
Speaker 1: media and looking through the comments section. They were saying,
Speaker 1: he's not guilty, She's right, all these different things. Now,
Speaker 1: I think people misinterpreted what Felicia Rashad was saying. However,
Speaker 1: you know, I really see that the perspective around his
Speaker 1: entire case, it's very split. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: think that he's guilty, or they think that these women
Speaker 1: came to him and were participating in the drugs and
Speaker 1: they were a part of the process. So it's really
Speaker 1: interesting to see that the audience is very split on
Speaker 1: whether or not, you know, Bill Cosby is guilty of
Speaker 1: what he's been accused of. How do you feel about that, Lauren?
Speaker 1: When Felicia made her public statement and Howard how a
Speaker 1: lot of people and Howard were very offended with with
Speaker 1: what she had to say that she stood by her friend.
Speaker 1: I support her perstanding by her friend. Do you think
Speaker 1: that she should have publicly publicly said something to support him?
Speaker 1: And when the in the in the position that she
Speaker 1: is in at Howard, over the community, over the theater community,
Speaker 1: I think that her I think her statement was miss interpreted.
Speaker 1: Because anytime somebody that I have very high regard for,
Speaker 1: like we all know, Debbie Allen's my mentor, that's her sister,
Speaker 1: so you know I've been around her, I've you know,
Speaker 1: I've interacted with her. Any any time somebody makes a
Speaker 1: statement that I may not understand it first or not
Speaker 1: agree with, I always want to go back and take
Speaker 1: a second look. So after going back and reading her statements,
Speaker 1: I realized, I think what she was saying is from
Speaker 1: a legal perspective, this was a miscarrying or a miscarriage
Speaker 1: of justice, is what she said in terms of the prosecution,
Speaker 1: said you know, I'm gonna give you this immunity deal
Speaker 1: in two thousand five, and then you came back later
Speaker 1: and used it against him after saying he wasn't. So
Speaker 1: I think from a legal sense, I understand that she
Speaker 1: what she was saying. But I think because she is
Speaker 1: the dean of Fine Arts at Howard, and because you
Speaker 1: know all the different layers that come with that, I
Speaker 1: think she probably should have clarified her comments a little
Speaker 1: further and she wouldn't have received as much blowback, is
Speaker 1: my opinion, because as I do agree with her from
Speaker 1: a legal stance, this was a miscarriage of justice. They
Speaker 1: didn't do what they said that they were going to do.
Speaker 1: It was illegal. So yeah, it's a very tricky situation.
Speaker 1: It really is, it really really is. Its lor like Nikolas,
Speaker 1: if you did something crazy, you know you're still my friend.
Speaker 1: You know, if I do something crazy, you know I
Speaker 1: expect you to stand by me even if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: And you say bit you know that was foul. You
Speaker 1: know you messed up, but you you judge me on
Speaker 1: our friendship, not because I didn't do it to you,
Speaker 1: but so I get that, I get how she stilld that.
Speaker 1: I just I knew they were going to come after her,
Speaker 1: and you and I talked about that. You said, oh,
Speaker 1: she's feliciously. I say, they are going to tap on
Speaker 1: her asks about that one? Yeah, And I think that's
Speaker 1: what Howard was not gonna do. Let me be very clear,
Speaker 1: Howard was not gonna let Felicia Chard go, who is
Speaker 1: not an academic, who was newly to the staff. She
Speaker 1: had all kinds of cover. Has she been an employee
Speaker 1: for more than a year, It's been a very different story. Also,
Speaker 1: let's not forgive this is an HBCU. We tend to
Speaker 1: support our own, right, So it's been different. Had she
Speaker 1: been at UNC Chapel Hill, Hello, Nicole Hannah Jones. Has
Speaker 1: she been at you know, University of Alabama? Has she
Speaker 1: been at any other institution? Um, it would have been
Speaker 1: a very different story. But because it is Howard, it
Speaker 1: is the champion U HBCU right, UM, I think that
Speaker 1: she was she was afforded a level of cover, um
Speaker 1: that may not have been afforded to someone else, had
Speaker 1: had she been one faculty member of any kind of tenure.
Speaker 1: Uh tenure time, been there, been there more than a
Speaker 1: year where you've actually learned the ropes. This is her
Speaker 1: first academic appointment. So um, I think there are just
Speaker 1: a lot of things you don't know going into an
Speaker 1: environment where someone on the comms team may have released
Speaker 1: a statement for you or allowed you to. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: let's tailor it this way. This is still your voice, Flame,
Speaker 1: but let's say this to make sure we don't just
Speaker 1: dismissed women who may have been victimized, because I think
Speaker 1: it came across as insensiitive. Plus, that's Claire Huxtable. I
Speaker 1: understand that that's Claire Huxtable. That is Claire Huxter, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to see nobody else ever play Claire Huxville.
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